How to choose your main in Persona 4 Ultimax 2.0 (Character Overview)
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
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Persona 4 Ultimax 2.0 is coming to modern platforms! Here's a quick top level guide on all the characters, their strengths and their weaknesses.
0:00 - intro
0:35 - Narukami Yu
1:55 - Hanamura Yosuke
2:49 - Satonaka Chie
4:48 - Amagi Yukiko
7:14 - Tatsumi Kanji
9:47 - Teddie
12:02 - Shirogane Naoto
14:14 - Kirijou Mitsuru
15:37 - Sanada Akihiko
17:10 - Aigis
18:02 - Labrys
19:17 - Shadow Labrys
20:35 - Elizabeth
22:28 - Takeba Yukari
23:42 - Iori Junpei
24:47 - Adachi Tohru
25:51 - Sho
26:37 - Minazuki
27:22 - Amada Ken
28:15 - Kujikawa Rise
29:51 - Marie
31:11 - Margaret
33:47 - Shadow characters or normal characters?
36:05 - Outro
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This was my first ever fighting game when I was in my early Teens
My dad got it for me as a birthday gift
I had no idea what persona was and had no interest in fighting games
Now I absolutely love both and am super looking forward to playing and learning this game at a high level now that I’m more experienced.
W dad
Same. It was my first anime fighter🤣🤣🤣
your dad is actually the goat
We didn't ask for your life story
Welcome to the hellhole, kiddo
I started with Blazblue
thank you, i needed something to do whilst mashing reload on steam page
Same
I feel you
Be free, the wait is over
I’ll just be mashing buttons cause I’m bad at the game lol :P
It's also worth mentioning that Mitsuru is a charge character, so if you're not comfortable with charge inputs, she might not be the best for you.
i first got interested in rise because she has a move that just makes this a rythm game for a bit
now that i actually know what the rest of her kit does im even more excited
*ive been staring at "coming 16 Mar, 2022" for a couple hours now*
Pain same
that's exactly why i play her but i learned shes a zoner who eventually goes in, which is my goat playstyle for anime fighters. i play teddie a similar way
@@KuroShiiiro Ya, she has a hybrid playstyle (zoning+rushdown)
I want to main Rise cause she's best girl, but I'm shit at rhythm games lmao
I wanted to play as Rise, but I don't use the default button layout so the rhythm game is super confusing 😭
Can you imagine a Persona Ultimax with the smash bros ultimate’s “Everyone’s here” treatment? Where it brings every Persona user (good, bad) P1 through P5R. That’ll be amazing
That’d be epic. Make Tetsuya from EP instant kill be him ending the world with his persona since that’s what was said would happen if his friends remembered their past life iIRC
I’m gonna be a Naoya main for sure
Catch me pulling out Nanjo's sniper
Even better, add If... to the mix so we can get Tamaki Uchida and Akira in this game.
Give Tamaki a party of demons, and replace the Cards with the little demon icon, and you'll really steal my heart
it's weird we dont have a P5 Ultimaz yet with exactly what you said
It’s so nice seeing P4A back in the scene. Thanks LK for the good vibes like the old days ~
I mostly played Narukami cause he was so easy back in the day but this time I'm gonna get really sweaty about Adachi. I watched some pro play, and he has my favorite play style in fighting games: Pavlov's offense, a character who is built around using tools to punish sloppy play to condition the opponent into either getting progressively more angry and more sloppy, or overly cautious and defensive so you can get away with stuff you shouldn't. Something about using human error and psychological pressure is so addictive, and he has a whole tool box relying on that aspect of fighting games is so sweet. Plus getting away with things you shouldn't is fun.
And don't forget that Mangatsu and Heat Riser allow you to meme the opponent to death
Pavlov's offense. Interesting. I'm curious are there any other characters from fighting games who also has this playstyle?
@@ayers01 im wondering the same, i like that kind of play style
Isn't that what Adachi's like, anyway? Abusing the psyche of others to do whatever?
Junpei is pretty easy to learn too
This brings me back to that old P4U overview of yours. Love your content dude!
So glad you made a new video for 2.0. I watched the old one in preparation for this game but as someone who didn't play the original it was very difficult for me to understand some of the unique aspects of this game without being able to put hands on it (things like how the SP system worked, Persona breaks, Awakenings, Instakills, etc). This video is MUCH more beginner friendly, and is especially so now that I AM much more familiar with these mechanics as I can now play the game. Cheers
"The fan fiction character marie" got me weak 😂
Tbf hes not wrong its spot on lol.
I'd prolly main Mitsuru so she could step o-
I mean wow look at her shadow combos
Great timing for this video I was running ranked as soon as it dropped and finished in love with Chie🗣 hopefully you give this game more often now !
Yoskuke losing glide without getting anything in return seems like a really harsh nerf. He does very little damage, and now has a much harder time opening the opponent up.
S Yosuke is still a high mid tier
Ima main Margaret for waifu reasons😎
Margaret is the best girl and she’s got my man yoshisune
@@Mr.Faust3 im new to persona so i have a lot of lore to catch up on…
@@ChrisUchiha7 all you need to know is she’s a chill secretary with one of the most busted personas
@@Mr.Faust3 A Cute and chill secretary with an OP persona? Yea im definitely maining her.
Bro, I'm like obsessed with Margaret. I'm thinking of maining her too
I've been seeing your videos ever since this game got announced. I'll subscribe just because the amount of info you gave on this game. Have a good one!
I was exactly searching for a vid like this, I knew you would do this, ty man
This was super informative, thank you very much.
Been playing Yukari and Yosuke from back in the day and they feel somewhat the same for the most part still a fantastic guide for the new players
When I played BBTAG the Persona characters were some of the most interesting to me, and I had never played a Persona game. Glad I can finally try them out in this game. I just picked P4AU the other day on Steam. Aegis and Mitsuru are the characters I like so far.
Bro, you need to play a persona game, they're so fun and the story's amazing
ah, you have good taste
I can’t wait to play this game I just bought this and goin to play it after work! Feels like I’ve been waiting an eternity for it to come out when I first saw a trailer for it haha. Very good video as well💪💪
Careful the game is very technical and complicated at first. Something alot of reviews don't mention. You also can't map dash or air dash to a single button like Strive.
Thank you so much for making this. I'm really stoked to get a second chance at actually playing this game.
O L
Great Vid LK, My brothers on PC, hold on, as of now, 4 hours remain.
great video Lk
I was already thinking yukkiko from playing her in tag but I learned a lot from the video
Excellent video! Thank you
thank god i was looking for something like this
As someone who just got this game first time, this video is perfect haha
Sweet vid man, learned something new
Thank you lord knight for the insight
Maaaaaan, how you gonna put this vid out before Rooflemonger?
Lol thx for this. I'm so stoked for this game to be back for good!
LordKnight, I want to ask out of pure curiosity, what do you think about Aigis, Yu and Mitsuru as mains ?
I main these 3. Aigis is my go to heroine be it ranked or unranked games ( I love her orgia mode options),Yu as a sub ( I think he plays just like Ky in Guilty gear) and Mitsuru (just for fun, though I find her mirrors a bit too slow ).
Love the content!
Great Video LK! Just a heads up Junpei's clean hits aren't timing based just frames they're based on spacing! (what hitbox of the bat is hitting the opponent)
Thanks for this!
Elizabeth is my main already. I hope we get a Persona 5A and get the first 2 games MC’s cause I wanna main Tetsuya
Would be sick if you made a video kinda like a tier list but it was based on easiest to hardest to use character.
I’m glad you showed the Twitter clip mitsuru combo
Been waiting for this
I’ve been waiting for this!
Oh yeah I was waiting on this one
I'm admittedly... new to the 2D fighting game scene. I started with Antinomy of Common Flowers but when I heard P4AU was coming out again, I wanted to get it. I was kinda hoping someone could kinda guide me to a character type to play as to really get into a groove. I mean I kinda get pretty rushdown? A lot of my aggressive plays are corner pressure but I usually play with a close and zoning type in tag team games.
Wow, a fellow AoCF player! Not something you see every day. Who was your main? I tend to stick to Sumireko and Miko.
I am genuinely pumped for some rollback on this game. Played the fuck out of P4A--first anime fighter I ever got into (started with UMVC3) and loved it.
Thanks for this video, I just bought it and I was so lost where to start lmao
34:41 This is actually wrong, as the shadow versions do 90% of the normal damage.
He can put an annotation there to correct it
@@fonzworthbentley7455 RUclips got rid of annotations a long time ago.
Yeah in 1.0 it used to do 80% damage, but now it got buffed to 90%. Individual damage is still worse then normal version, but the gap is much less noticeable.
In 1.0 shadow health used to be a flat 2k increase across the board, but now it’s only 1k [Kanji/Akihiko only gets 500 specifically]
Shadows no longer has meter carryover like they did in 1.0
Shadows now has burst that can be used as shadow fury resource. This is the big change that makes Shadows more viable because they have a defensive option they lacked before, unburstable combo that fixed Shadow Fury being weak before to go along with Awakening supers not needing awakening + reduced meter cost in Shadow fury ,
@@Commander034 Kind of sad in retrospect
@@cryguy0000 There used to be choose your own adventure videos with annotation links that just don't work anymore.
Rise and Yukari are my mains. Also enjoy playing Junpei and Ken.
You have talked about anti airs a lot my question can you just air grab moves such as chies air move that beats anti airs?
could you please go over a Mitsuru guide and how to do charge moves? i want to play her so bad but i want to learn more before going deeper into learning her
I’m going to main Yukiko. She’s the ultimate waifu and i love fire. Reds also my favorite color. I’m really hoping for a persona 5 arena game though so I can main Joker and Ann.
If this rerelease does well, I feel like they’ll definitely make another arena game
@@CharlieCabralos I hope so
SSBU
@@tezcanaslan2877 what’s that?
@@darkhaven9119 joker
Great video
finally, persona 4 arena footage in 1080p
Does ken play similarly to acr Zappa dog summon? Like is it negative edge or just button does moves and you sync up your pressure with that?
woah, that stuff about Persona startup invuln and post-jump airblock delay sounds REALLY crucial 😳
did they add big new system changes? (are the changes listed somewhere?)
welp that was fast
ruclips.net/video/npO2jdfKBvw/видео.html
I dunno if you'll see this Lord Knight but thanks for the video. I love persona but this is my first time playing the fighting game and I have no idea who to play at all. Any recommendations? Anyone who's just fun to play for a beginner to P4AU?
In yall’s eyes, how are shadow characters balanced compared to their normal counterparts? I hear stuff like you should only ever pick shadows in 2.0 but I can imagine that’s exaggerated.
General consensus from top tiers and the Discord is that most Shadows are still "Pick and win" like Chie, a few are better than 1.0 like Yukiko and Kanji who can do some nutty stuff if you give them room to breathe, but yes it is a bit exaggerated.
It's still pretty much Shadow Chie/Yu/Mitsuru/Sometimes Naoto running amok, just that a few others can be used and not be a troll pick.
Shadow Mitsuru is unbelievably disgusting. As you can see in the video, she gets 7k off of normal hit 5A midscreen. The others are cheap, but I wouldn't say they dominate the game. We'll see what happens though
It is exaggerated. Shadows are definitely much more viable now as they were largely gimmick status in 1.0, but you can still do fine with their normal counterparts. Some normal counterparts are better then the shadow counterparts still. Not to mention there are several good characters that don’t have a shadow mode like Minazuki
@@mrharvy100 Minazuki is basically Sho's Shadow, but with a complete moveset
Shadows are generally better than their normal variants, the difference isnt incredibly significant but it's still notable, it does vary a bit from character to character, and there are a lot of characters without shadow variants that are still quite good. Overall the character viability is more even across the entire cast than it was in 1.1 but it is definitely offensively skewed with shadows being a bit better overall.
I kinda wanted to see if Yukiko had any QoL changes as someone who only played the game casually but hey the fans being more frequent is a nice change. Wasn't expecting much positive about her to be said.
I so wish Makoto Yuki was in this game, it would be so cool. I would main him instantly.
talk about them in way more depth then. a character at a time would be nice. the only question i have for now is does yosuke ex spring dash still go through projectiles?
Mitsuru seems like a perfect character for me
i would like to play ken and shadow labrys but i dont how to use the persona or the dog in combo while hitting
i dont have enough finger
have u some tips pls ?
I’m seeing people do s.naoto combos and ending in the Gun super with the shotgun but they do it twice when they pop shadow is that still a thing because I can’t seem to get the other super to be a true combo
First of all, thank you for all the effort you put into teaching this game ;u; You're one of my favorite FGC personalities because of that and other factor. I was wondering if you'd ever do an in-depth on Margaret. She's my favorite forever and I'm horrid at this game and just wanna do her justice ;u;
Picking Chie cuz Chie is cute and sick next question
I know my boy had this one queued up for at least a week. Get that cpm my guy
I'll probably end up playing Narukami because that's who I played back in P4A, but I want to try perSHOna and Margaret too.
would you do a tier list on the characters?
I can't wait to bring live on stage to the masses
We've got rollback now! Interested in LK's thoughts.
A NEW ONEEE YESSS
Is there any character that would go well with someone that plays millia in strive?
I'm coming from MK, that's the only type of fighting game I'm used to, so it will be interesting to see who will fit my play style more
if you could do a video on the 2.0 changes and your thoughts that would be cool too!
I havent seen too many combos on this game, would you say that they're difficult overall? Or is it just a matter of like hitting gatlings into specials
Depends, basic confirms are smaller and are just basic gatlings into specials but dumping meter or landing certain starters will lead to bigger combos. Landing fatal counters will also lead to insane stuff too
Harder than Strive, easier than games like Xrd.
@@Cezkarma isn't that most games?
Definitely more complex then modern Arc Sys games. Don’t let the auto combo string fool you.
@@mrharvy100 it's very similar too "under night in birth" if I was to compare
Yu and Mitsuru are my absolute favorites.
Marie,Naoto, and Rise feel the most fun for me so far
I will just main Adachi cause he is my favorite character in persona history. Still a good video tho
I hope there are tutorials on the way for this game. I want to try ken and rise but they sound like they have more going on than a normal character.
There’s a lesson mode that really goes in depth
Ken is deceptively simple in my opinion. When I compare him to playing Carl or Zato it feels super easy.
A quick 236C into 6A is a good way to get in quickly with akihiko but it's not very safe on block
I REALLY needed this thank you. If i may ask is there a community for a fighting game beginner like me can get help on getting better? I always want to get a community but fighting games are intimidating to get in to. I really want to enjoy this game while i hVe my chance
The persona arena ultimax discords have a lot of resources for characters and the game but most people there pretty experienced so maybe dont use it for matchmaking till you feel comfortable with the game (or if the player numbers happen to be low lol) there could also be a few new players that also join the discord so if you find those guys you could fight with them and practice together
@@papercat5829 alright thanks! Ill check it out
@@khp1803 i wouldve given you the link to make it easier to find but youtube deleted it xd. Probably thought it was a bot link or something
@@papercat5829 its ok ill find it myself. Need some time myself on finishing the story thanks anyways 👍
@@khp1803 np. Hope you enjoy the game:)
I usually play rushdown characters like: orchid (KI), cammy (SF), Giovanna (GG:ST) I'm not sure if there's a character like those from what I see here.. :(
Is there a downside to shadow characters if they can just use all their supers and have a burst in this version?
No awakening and burst is replaced with shadow frenzy which means no more offensive or defense burst. Shadow Frenzy basically puts them into something like Hyper mode in KOF or Chaos Code which allows them to do insane combos and even TOD. No awakening means no defense buff when you drop below 35% health after a combo or single hit. Shadows have higher health but it doesn't fully compensate as the defense buff from awakening reduces damage down to 62.5 and even effects minimum damage scaling for supers. Shadow's also have a damage penalty doing 20% less damage. Think it is only 10% in 2.0 but could be wrong.
Shadows basically give up a lot of stuff for shadow frenzy which is their main goal in every fight. Especially helps versus normal characters since awakening doesn't trigger till after the combos ends so if you can kill the last 35+% of their health they don't get to go into awakening.
Edit: Shadows do have bursts in 2.0 but also now need burst to use shadow frenzy. This change made shadows much better as most shadow characters were strictly inferior to normal ones since not having a burst sucked.
They also only gain a extra 1000 health instead of 2000 with two of the higher health characters getting 500. Shadow Frenzy cam no longer be bursted. They really up the whole trading durability for one shot potential
Some shadow characters were quite insanely good in 2.0 and it was part of the reason why the fambase was split on whether 2.0 was actually a good update or not.
They have several. Whether or not the pros are worth the cons depends on your character. Also keep in mind not every character has a shadow version
So will the tier lists change with this new game?
Thanks for this.
I'm coming from Guilty Gear and Blazblue, and was looking for archetypes that match the characters that I main in both of those games.
I know a other method: play the game, and pick the character you like the most.
The sprites still look good
I understand changing some moves, but they removed glide from Yosuke? Bro...
Excelent video btw, deserves all the likes
This video told me the semi port dropped
Shadow teddie here I come
i think I'll go with yosuke. love being speedy in fighters
How common is persona breaking? Is it unavoidable in most matches for the chars with less cards?
Having more cards is both a pro and con. More cards means you are less likely to be persona broken in theory [persona reliant characters are more prone to danger of being broken though despite increased cards], but if a persons card high character gets broken they hurt the most. You can’t use persona until every card recharged again. More cards = more recharge time
But there are some characters that have recharge times they don’t match with how many cards they have. I’m pretty sure Margaret had like seven or eight cards but recharges like a four card character.
Characters with less cards tend not to care nearly as much about persona broke, it might be different in 2.0 since I haven't hopped on but when I played Akihiko I never had to take note of my persona cards unless I was about to use my sp.
My basic judgement is
"Can I stop my friend using Adachi from spamming maziodyne and not letting me get close?"
So I'm stuck with yukari, minazuki and aigis. Not choosing Yu cause it's easy to screw up
What's Teddie's stand name? Kentucky Doujin?
Half of these attacks I don't understand how to execute at all. The command list uses arcade stick icons and not normal buttons, I can't translate that :(
Unless you’re playing on pc, you can just go into training and memorise what is what. On PS3 the icons were coloured in the way of the controller, so red meant circle, green meant triangle, blue meant X and so on
There are two ways to pick a main.
You either pick the one with the playstyle you enjoy.
Or you pick your waifu.
after 3 reload & hopefully 4 remake dropping soon, this ll get some more more mileage
Persona 4 Crash Ultimax is a pretty fun game
I used to play on PS3ver, and I main Mitsuru. Hope there is a Mitsuru tutorial
I'm still not sure what character to go for. I like zoning and long range the most, but I still feel a bit lost on who to try if I get the game. And I'm scared of all the inputs and such. I worry I won't be able to do them and waste my money buying the game. I want it, but 30$ is alot to blow on a game I end up not being able to play :(
I ended up buying due to the rollback announcement, even if its a few months from now. It's out on steam!
I like playing yukari, ken, Margaret and rise
What really bugs me about this game is the buffering system, I'm missing just 1 trial with shadow Narukami but surprisingly I'm having troubles doing just 1 single super cancel on the right corner lol I'm hoping that in a few days i'll stop doing missinputs 😂😂
P5 is when I got into the Persona series. They have no one form P5. The only reason I picked this up was for the RPG Golden Arena mode. Can’t wait to get started. Just need to see which character I’d like. Thanks for this video.
I'd be pretty impressed if a fighting game from before P5 had P5 characters in it, jokes aside I hope you enjoy the game, and I recommend checking out P3 and 4 if you can.
Question, is Teddie still strong despite the nerfs he got?
Teddie is still pretty solid yeah
Yes. His item gameplan is just less one sided braindead now
@@mrharvy100 damn, guess I won't play him then
17 03 today, release when?