I had an interesting experience on Layton one night ago. I shot a blacktail buck level 4 who weighed about 87,5 kilos. The interesting with this deer was that it had the tiniest rack which you see on the level 1 males. It scored around 90 in trophy rating which gave it a bronze…Normally when you glance heards of deer and you see that tiny rack you don’t even bother spotting them since you now they are most likely level 1 or 2. Have never seen this combination of high weight and tiny rack ever before in the game.
I found a forum on in which someone actually extracted a read the code of the game for respawns. It is a random number generator in a fixed range for different animals, lets say between 33 and -33 for moose. so when you harvest an animal the code randomly selects an number within that range and adds it to whatever weight for the animal you harvested. So if it picks 22 the weight goes up by that, if it picks -22 it goes down by that, then respawns after 15 minutes real time. herd management works because you can only produce a GO or Diamond after harvesting a high level animal, then getting a high or max number in the random number generator. Killing low level animals will not produce a Diamond or GO respawn because the number added cannot be high enough due to the fixed range. Also this is solely based upon weight, there is no trophy score in this process at all. Zone management works because you must harvest an animal to create a respawn, if you are working too many zones then the respawn could be anywhere you harvested an animal. Another interesting thing this person looked into is the number of Diamonds on any given map after a pop reset. It's almost Always 3 of any large species on that map.
@@chrisgreen4576 This all adds up to my theory! Thanks for this! Proves my point that it’s all based on weight and with a properly managed herd it isn’t as random as it may seem! Also, the initial spawn diamonds make sense! I have another video on the best maps based on finding my initial spawns over 3 pkaythroughs and I think this right! There’s always 3-4 big species diamonds on a map, along with some trolls!
I've noticed some of these patterns during my first ever grind for GO Moose. I could almost tell when the spawn cycle was getting better, then once I harvested the big boys on my map, the dice would roll again and so on. Made a lot of mistakes in my initial setup, accidentally shot a female or two, and took awhile to figure out that herds and solos were sharing zones. Once I sorted all that out, bam Great One. Interesting how grinds can differ on species too, for example you don't have to mess with any solo male moose. Just focusing herds got me my GO. Thanks for your thoughts! There's definitely something to this theory, if not it actually being right on the money.
I’ve notice the similar things! My first HM videos are honestly outdated the more I’ve grinded. I pressed new game about 6 months ago and need to set up a white tail grind as an example… I did my moose grind again and I stacked max weight estimate makes, didn’t care if it was a 5, diamond potential or any other factors and if I’m behind honest, it ended up shooting down my zones even faster than trying to only put diamonds to stack. My first grind was 2100 with Hm no G1… my new grind, 378 with a G1. I am willing to bet I am right, but I love love love hearing others views and thoughts!
@@JBizHuntsI missed the Mr. Black glitch before it was fixed but it’s great evidence for what you’re thinking. The bigger thing to me is what you just said, focusing on stacking max weights over waiting for a diamond to pop up and how that boosted your grind. I’m absolutely going to try that! Probably on red deer or fallow. I’ve left my moose setup to try and get another GO but it’s managed so I can’t test as well there.
So, essentially, shoot the highest weight range possible each time? I’m new to these strategies but have commented (and subscribed) before either here or on Reddit. Thanks for your content, I dig your style.
there’s one tiny problem in your explanation now I’m typing this after watching the videos so I think the theory is great but like I said, there’s one problem Jackson I think it’s his name said in a hunter called the wild live stream that they removed the weight class to level system because there was a glitch in the game that let you put two points into one skill tree, and one point into the other skill tree, which let you see in animals, exact weight and even though they do use the same system he confirmed that the system was changed so that says to me that it’s running off of an entirely different system, but with the original one still in there, and if I dare say a little bit that Jackson kind of confirmed/disconfirmed that there can be naturally spawning great ones and it was a bug that they removed so he said in his own statements that I’m not going to say whether there is or there isn’t, but we haven’t seen a naturally spawning great one in the community since the game released, which basically just confirmed that yes you can’t spawn a great one naturally unless you’re hacking but he did semi confirm this so it’s always possible but very very unlikely and the fact of the matter is is that no matter what to get a great one it’s based off the leveling scale. I do think the theory is a good one though because of the whole weight system idea so. it isn’t really a theory that I can fully say doesn’t work or it doesn’t exist, but it’s also a theory that I can’t deny either or accept because he raises some interesting points as like he said the great one fallow deer at max level will always spawn with the spoon/Mickey Mouse rack so it’s very suspicious. I’ll have to say, but this can easily be proven as once a great one spawns it’s randomized the weight and the rack except for that one but that’s a longshot at best so well I can’t say that this is true. I also can’t say this is false. It’s tricky.
OK, there’s one more problem that I found in the recording. He said that’s why you’ll never see a level five medium white tail. There was actually a time where you could if you go back to the first release of the game on PC if you grind out and you found a great one Whitetail and then you left and rejoined the map. It would spawn as a level five instead of a 10 fable. So theoretically speaking at one point there was a five medium, but it got removed.
@@Luke-j8m I honestly thank you for taking your time to write such a long and throughout response. It is a theory, and theories are meant to have holes poked or to be proven. I still think that weight plays a part since weight dictates levels. The guy you are referring to is jaxxybeard, and the thing that was fixed was the weight estimate tracking system. There was a way you could pick up a track and know the precise weight of the animal. Basically you could easily find diamonds and the game was broken at the time.
@ yeah like I said, I can’t agree that the theory is 100% right, but I thought about it for quite a long time and the more and more that I think about it the more and more that I think it’s right
@ I’ve had people in the comments say similarly… they come back and say “you know what I think you are right”… one person pointed out great one pheasants prove my theory
@ yeah I don’t know like you mentioned you’ll never find a level one moose with a level five rack or you’ll never find a level one white tail max weight there’s a lot of ways. I’m sure people could say it’s wrong but like I said, you can’t deny that it makes more sense if you even just think about it a little bit at first I said to myself, his theory is crazy. They removed that weight system along time ago and then I remembered no they just removed a hack that could let you see the exact weight of diamonds and that was how people could hack and shoot the game cause that’s when diamonds only classified by the level by their weight, but then I started thinking it a little bit more like you said you’ll see Max animals with only certain kinds of racks like the great one fellow deer only at its max level can have the spoon rack but it can choose between five different variations of the color of its fur and I thought to myself again this makes it harder for me to think that it’s disproven, but the evidence is starting to stack up and then eventually I just got to the point where I just said until further notice he’s right. By the way, I’m not the best at typing and I sometimes use speech to text while I’m typing so if there’s any spelling errors like I read one part that said like I said, but it was supposed to be like you said so that’s my bad.
Ive been saying its weight for years. ive always managed by weight all because thats how the spawn mechanic was created way back in teh beginning under the old scoring system and weight range was all important, they never changed the spawn mechanics when they changed the scoring system and truracs.
@@brojajacra that’s what I found and why I made the video, they just added TruRacs Ontop of the old system. This makes the game a bit more random! Probably explains why when you botch shot a great one it goes down 1 medal to gold… it’s actually a diamond weight spawn possibly? On old mechanics
I want to tell you my story. I belongs to older player (with years of life ... ), so the slow style of the game suits me. I spent a about year in Layton L. just hunting there. I had no idea about the gameplay mechanism. And here's what happened (by the way, I have a print scr of all the trophies I shot) The first whitetail diamond weighed 97.29 kg /Trophy Rating 280.90 (2020 year), then the second one was 97.13kg /TR 257.50 (2020 year) and then one day I literally collided with GO (I mean - that's why this game remains #1 in my heart, I've never had such a rush of adrenaline in any game - ever) Yes, my friend, I got GO which was 103.30 kg /TR 407.60 (2021 year)This is my experience - what do you think about him? And that I know exactly which rules I followed during the entire game and hunting in LL during that year. After that I bought other expansions, but I never wanted or wanted to do grinding for GO, this experience with GO fulfilled me completely for ever.
@@behathehorrible1643 I love the story! It’s very similar to my first great one! I have all 9 stories in another video on my channel. But, I essentially just grinded for cash so I can get more tents for trophy hunting… and when I saw him, what a rush! That’s why I love this game so much! I get the same rush from a big rare or a diamond still! Love the story! Thanks for the comment!
@@JBizHunts Thanks for sharing the same sentiments. That's why I think your theory makes sense, but I'm also of the opinion that apart from those main mechanisms for triggering high or diamond/go trophies, there are some additional "spices" in the whole story. Spices that make the whole process easier or harder...
@@behathehorrible1643 agreed! That’s why it’s a theory and EW won’t let us know what the spices are! But those extra spices are what make this game amazing
@@JBizHunts I completely agree, because even though we have the main ingredients, each of us also uses some small additional spices that we check during the game. I wish you more videos for you , and more these little detective discussions of ours :-)
@@crash_course_gaming97 I would say a lot less. A 10% chance of being a go if it comes back as a diamond. There’s a Reddit post explaining the mechanics of the respawn score…so basically if it becomes a diamond it has a 1 in 10 chance to be a go… so your goal is to spawn diamonds to get a go… think of diamonds as golden tickets… And every other animal as silver… silver still has a chance but those golden tickets are your best opportunity… that’s why HM works… there’s still RNG so if the diamonds keep staying diamonds it leads to a long grind
@ yeah, you’ve inspired me to make my “how respawns” work a 2 part series: part 1 the basics, dealing with each zone etc… part 2 the math… I’ll share this guys findings on how they work
I think the antler roll could have more impact than you think. So you have to figure out a way to isolate the weight variable by itself. I think The best way to test your theory would be to set up 2 moose grinds. On one grind only keep your level 2’s with the smallest racks, and on the other keep your level 2’s that have the slightly larger antlers with both on the smallest weights. And see which one produces great ones more. If you can eliminate antlers from impacting the spawn rate of great ones, then your theory on weights would be correct. And I think you might be on to something with the consecutive harvest bonus maybe even getting added on as a small multiplier for large rolls.
@@jameshsi5505 the thing about antler rolls is that two animals, let’s say moose, who have the same antler but different levels, the higher level will weigh more. Two moose with similar antlers but different levels will always weigh less. Antlers attach to the bull in weight ranges. That’s why there are the big rack and little rack diamonds for most species, and weight is what separates them. I feel like every weight range has a “big rack” and “small rack” for the ranges in weight. Like there’s a big 3 rack and a little 3 rack for moose. Which, makes sense since the biggest level 3’s make gold and the smallest 3’s score similar to a big 2
I’ve recently started a Great One Whitetail grind on Layton and am already seeing results which is great. But I do have a few questions for you (after watching this, your herd management videos and whitetail videos). First of all, thank you for the guides. I find scarecrow and ladylegend to be helpful but your guides have been much easier to understand. Anyways, my questions, 1. If an animal is max weight but not diamond potential in a main zone, should I kill or save it? I’m assuming kill it but wanted to make sure. 2. You mentioned to leave small level 2 bucks (antenna rack) and treat them like a level 1. My question involving that is what if I have a rack buck (not antenna) that scores less than the antenna rack? I kill anything that doesn’t have an antenna and is level 2 that aren’t potential diamonds. But I have some antenna racks that can score 190+ at max score. Then others that are max score 160’s. So far I’ve been leaving any level 2 antenna rack under 175.
@@coltonhisey8229 answer #1: There are two arguments: kill then and only keep max level (the highest weight) to drive down the herd… or dirty herd management and keep all max weight estimate even if they are level 2, since they will weigh enough to drop down the respawns… it’s your choice on how fast or proficient you want to do this… answer#2: just like max level animals can troll and they may have huge estimates, estimates can be misleading that an atenna rack will always score mid 150’s so my bet is an antenna rack with a 150-190 estimate will always score at the bottom and weigh the least and that’s why you don’t shoot them.
@@JBizHunts thank you for the quick response! Understood! How has your theory went involving weight spawning great ones over trophy score? Have you had better results since incorporating that? Are you making another video on it soon?
@@coltonhisey8229 I may! I have a few other videos that I’ve been working on! I just put out this week my lodge tour and a best maps to find diamonds and rares video. I got 1 or two more vids in the works then I may revisit this and do another spin! I pressed new game so I will start a brand new grind and incorporate weight from start to finish
@@Yourfavguitarist hey! I’m going to do a herd management 2.0 version soon! But a lot of the knowledge in my other herd management videos hold true, except I think I can make it a lot simpler and make stacking simpler as well! Thanks for the comment!
@@JBizHunts yes please!!! So many videos are still so confusing on how and when to shift modes during your stacking phases!! I.e when to and how to hunt the solos, whatnot do etc
@@jamesjennings8574 yeah! They can get monotonous! However, when I get my first one the feeling got me hooked! However, I’m a hybrid player and LOVE all rares and diamonds. Thanks for the subscribe!
I mean, personally I would think if it were to be real world realistic, shooting small animals to allow the big ones to continue to grow into bigger “great one” status would be the key but in the end… they don’t grow on the game. Although I think if say the bears would occasionally be seen with cubs, and random animals were found to be dead from old age and fishing was a thing on the game, that it would be even more fun to play.. I’m new to the game but love it so far.. I also don’t heard manage or anything because I don’t want to just sit and grind kill hopping from tent to tent to pick them up.. I just play. Although I do use the invisibility glitch and ultimately kill them at point blank range a lot. 😅
@@Affordable-Guts herd management isn’t for everyone. Way of the hunter is a game that uses genetics and animals do grow. I find this game works smoothly and not everyone has time to wait for animals to grow! Hope you enjoy theHunter as muck as I have!
Some of it must be weight related, i have a super fallow zone w 4 herds, and 8 level 2 stags. Took 3k kills to manage that zone. I shot 3 solos for my "hm". Since managing that zone down, diamonds started spawning like crazy. HM must have some effect on grinding for GO's.
I’ve killed about 8-9k animals between a few grinds and haven’t gotten a go (5k fallow and 4k tahr) do you think that could be bc I use a .300 to grind or just bad luck?
The .300 would not affect your grind. I use the 300 on my grinds to drop the bucks in their spot. What would affect your grind is if you don’t harvest (pickup) your animals. That affects the grind. Also, if you are not using Herd Management the grind will be longer. Check out my HM videos or my fallow grind video for tips.
I been doing heard management and shooting down bad zones stacking rares and Dimonds i tend to hunt with a real life mind set so the bigger ones go 1st but i haven't actually focused on harvesting the heavy weights consistently so for 2 days now thats what i been doing realistically i only got maybe 3 or 4 hrs played in those 2 days and i got a lvl 2 melanistic whitetail buck gold after 30 kils im pushing 2000 kills
@JBizHunts yes he made gold I just got a gold albino not 2 mins ago I just started with the weight so I'm not really seeing a big difference just yet other than 2 rares but if it works as you say and you ain't ever guided me wrong with your videos so I can assume with a little more time and few more cycles I'll see a more noticeable difference
I don't like grind, but I collected all the diamond for 3 year stalking and the game won't let me go. In general I decided to grind a little. Fallow deer GO-easy, red deer-hard, black bear, whitetail, moose-unreal. But.... yesterday I decided on the contrary to accumulate all 227-290 kg black bear (max weight) and killed only the rest male. Got GO from 46 kills.
@@Vladislav-mu1nz ah! Well like I said in the video, there still is random number generation in the game. So, then you left the the max weight ranges and started shooting the rest instead?
@@JBizHunts Yes, I left the the max weight and started shooting the rest. So I got my first a GO black bear from many unsuccessful attempts do it right. (Killed only max weight animals).
What is the indication that your kill/harvest will influence your next spawn? I kill a 6 red deer, then I get a 4 for it. Then I kill the 4 and get a 9 diamond. Is it not that the game spawns completely random animals. Independetly of what was shot prior. And the higher the trophy rating the lesser the spwaning chance.
@@Inquisam there are still random factors in respawns. However, if only harvesting one animal and waiting the allotted time for a respawn is the only way to make this accurate. However, if you are shooting multiple males of the same animal they can swap zones. You could harvest a 6 in one zone and a 4 in another and their respawns swap. Making it seem like the 4 jumped to 9 and 6 went down to a 4. But in reality the 6 is what became the 9 and the 4 stayed a 4 but swapped.
Sounds logical. Somehow. Do all animals have an internal ID? Or is a 4 that spawns again in a different zone not actually a completely new animal? I really do not know it and would like to understand how people come up with the theory that individuals respawn again. Instead of a completely new random entity. The coding for random entities would be so much easier, with the same results. Therefore I am wondering, why so many people believe they can influence the respawns. Did the devs ever indicate something?
@@Inquisam the animal population file is set when you first enter a map. If there’s 100 bears and 60 are female and 40 are male, those numbers never (shouldn’t) change. I’m not sure if they have an ID, but it make sense. You shoot bear A, B and C they all go into respawn. Their locations on the map can swap or change when they respawn, since all bears are solo. When a herd animal gets harvested the herd is static and if one animal gets harvested from zone 1, 2 and 3 the a, b,c can switch the zones, but their respawn is based on the harvested animal, but the location of spawn may be different than the original animal. Unless you shoot 1 male from 1 herd zone, and nothing else, it will have no other choice but to respawn into the same herd as there is no other “open chairs” for them to spawn into. I hope that answers the question.
@@Inquisam the game has been out since 2017, lots of hours played amongst many creators and members who have shared how this all works. I’ve been playing since console release in October of 2017.
Way of the hunter also uses weight and culling male animals that have defective racksd and older females to helps grows the herd stronger. Cotw doesn't use elimination animals with bad racks but focuses on weight & males not female. I've been shooting small animals to keep the big ones around so offsprings are from the bigger animals but I don't think this works in cotw. I agree with your analysis that in cotw harvesting the larger animals the game will increase in difficulty by spawning larger animals that are smarter with spooking and weight. That's how the game progresses to challenge you. As far as G1, never seen one or got lucky. I have grinded for red deer but at this point, I find it more enjoyable to just play random then tent & tripod whole map. The whole beaver thing is annoying. I will use your advice and start going for larger animals and hope they respawn bigger ones.
Yes, when I won’t shoot any low level animals even outside of great one grinding. Like, if I’m out hunting Grizzly on Yukon Valley, I won’t shoot any Grizzly under level 5 for this very reason. The respawn has the best chance to be bigger if you leave the smaller ones on the map. For great ones though it’s just an additional to the current level difficulty system based on weight. So, the mechanic has to work similar since the underlying system is old and been around since 2017. Thanks for the comment! I own WOTH but haven’t gotten into it just yet! I’ll have to try!
@@samhrdlicka1387 There are a lot of creators on RUclips. The verified partners like LadyLegend, Scarecrow and Flinter as an example would have to be approved by expansive works to get early access and other perks. I applied (I’m on console but if I ever get approved I’ll decide if I want to go on PC from Xbox) and in the application it says no tolerance for mods and cheating. I’m sure they can do a check on your system to see if mods are in your gameplay files. However, other pc creators who are not partners with EW could be using mods. Not saying they are, but it’s in the realm of possibility. My whole channel was made on Xbox so I’ve never got to witness modded servers or players.
On Layton I have every drink zone found and blasting all my 3-4’s and still nothing has showed up yet I know my Dimond is there but not sure if I blast him or leave for the chance of getting my great one
@@JBizHunts Yeah man, but more I'm thinking about it, you are right about the 1000 point system. Like why fallow is the easiest G1 to get!? Beside consec you used to have integrity and quick kill adding up to 1000, and as it is, you have plenty of guns holding integrity and instantly dropping a fallow... In a sense, using .300 to grind for deer might be the most counterproductive thing ever.
Tbh ive lost interest in playing this game since diamomds dont feel like an achievement to me anymore, but great omes are too far out of reach for me even with heavy HM my grinds are all taking over 4k kills. It would be OK for me to grind if diamonds actually got me excited, but they dont.
@@blitzhunts man!!! Either get tighter on your HM to ramp up the chance for a great one…. Or do what I did in April and press new game. You keep your lodge but get fresh maps and you just replay them, find new initial spawn rares and diamonds! It renewed my love for the game! I still have maps I haven’t played yet since I restarted
@JBizHunts that's not the issue- the issue is diamonds are no longer and achievement because they are too easy. I get one every 6-12 kills for whitetail so my HM is cracked but never spawns a great one like the content creators
My advice is you don’t need great ones to grow a channel, and a channel should be about your interest and what you love! I have a fantastic career IRL and I make content because I enjoy it with no pressure!
@JBizHunts well, I was interested in hunting Great ones but they never spawn for me. And we'll show me ONE popular creator that doesn't grind and get dozens of Great ones il wait
I determined something similar while grinding Tigers before the update. I managed to get a diamond every 10-20 kills by making sure all of my male tigers were lower weight estimates. 1 level 5 at 168-220. 2 level 6 at 220-272 and 4 level 7 at 220-272. I started with a level 7 at 272-324 but made sure he was gone before killing the only tiger I would shoot. I've had over 80 diamonds with 4 max weight, 2 were trophy score 60 and 2 were 59.7. I also had a mythical 8 score over 57 but I shot him in the head unaware he could even make diamond.
@@hectech yes! This works for all species I do believe. But simply put, great ones are the highest weight, so makes sense why they would spawn quicker from a herd managed grind! I never bother to grind tigers, I got 2 diamonds and 2 rare’s so didn’t want to push it as I didn’t have space in my lodge.
@@JBizHunts nice thanks for all the info. I never used to "grind" anything before tigers. Before the latest map I would "herd manage" by only shooting higher level animals until I finally got a diamond.
@@hectech yeah, that’s how I got started in herd management was trying to get a diamond of every species. So on SRP I didn’t have any initial spawn diamond bison, so I started setting up and shooting all the big ones until a diamond showed up. Then I moved on and did the same for Blacktail deer… and then I accidentally did the same to red deer and ended up with 9 great ones as I told the story about my great ones in another video on the channel.
this was such a waste of time everything you pointed out is just what Hm is. anybody who knows anything about RNG and call of the wild knows this already and I can also say its not always proven either. just last week i had G1 fallow spoon off of a level 2 that got into my main zone and he is the only buck there so i know he spawned off of it.
@@daltonclark4479 did you shoot any other males on that rotation? You do know males can swap zones. You could shoot a 2 in one zone and a 4 in another and the respawns can swap. It’s a trick used when grinding black bears on SRP to swap males and females and swap small males for large males. I appreciate the comment and the view though! Yes, everything I did point out is HM, the main thing that’s different is to focus on weight, when most players/grinders focus on trophy rating. I appreciate all the comments and criticisms! Happy hunting my friend.
@@JBizHunts he was the only 2 I shot on that rotation because my respawns were all gone besides him so I shot him main menu and came back and all my spawns were back and the G1 was in his place
@@daltonclark4479 sweet! That can happen because your herd is well managed I presume. If you watched the whole video I have a part about my theory on how respawns work and there is probably an unknown number that gets added to the respawn that can be smaller or bigger depending on the weight distribution of your herd. I did say at the end that it’s basically all RNG, but herd management does help by forcing the game to potential add more to a low level respawn. So, you basically proved it works! Awesome! Thank you
I had an interesting experience on Layton one night ago. I shot a blacktail buck level 4 who weighed about 87,5 kilos. The interesting with this deer was that it had the tiniest rack which you see on the level 1 males. It scored around 90 in trophy rating which gave it a bronze…Normally when you glance heards of deer and you see that tiny rack you don’t even bother spotting them since you now they are most likely level 1 or 2. Have never seen this combination of high weight and tiny rack ever before in the game.
It’s a known bug with the blacktail
I found a forum on in which someone actually extracted a read the code of the game for respawns. It is a random number generator in a fixed range for different animals, lets say between 33 and -33 for moose. so when you harvest an animal the code randomly selects an number within that range and adds it to whatever weight for the animal you harvested. So if it picks 22 the weight goes up by that, if it picks -22 it goes down by that, then respawns after 15 minutes real time. herd management works because you can only produce a GO or Diamond after harvesting a high level animal, then getting a high or max number in the random number generator. Killing low level animals will not produce a Diamond or GO respawn because the number added cannot be high enough due to the fixed range. Also this is solely based upon weight, there is no trophy score in this process at all. Zone management works because you must harvest an animal to create a respawn, if you are working too many zones then the respawn could be anywhere you harvested an animal. Another interesting thing this person looked into is the number of Diamonds on any given map after a pop reset. It's almost Always 3 of any large species on that map.
@@chrisgreen4576 This all adds up to my theory! Thanks for this! Proves my point that it’s all based on weight and with a properly managed herd it isn’t as random as it may seem! Also, the initial spawn diamonds make sense! I have another video on the best maps based on finding my initial spawns over 3 pkaythroughs and I think this right! There’s always 3-4 big species diamonds on a map, along with some trolls!
@@chrisgreen4576 yes thanks
@@chrisgreen4576 so ur saying if u shoot more lvl 3 deer. Then great oke can spawn sooner or later
@@samhrdlicka1387 yeah, they could go up or down though, its a random number generator.
I've noticed some of these patterns during my first ever grind for GO Moose. I could almost tell when the spawn cycle was getting better, then once I harvested the big boys on my map, the dice would roll again and so on. Made a lot of mistakes in my initial setup, accidentally shot a female or two, and took awhile to figure out that herds and solos were sharing zones. Once I sorted all that out, bam Great One. Interesting how grinds can differ on species too, for example you don't have to mess with any solo male moose. Just focusing herds got me my GO. Thanks for your thoughts! There's definitely something to this theory, if not it actually being right on the money.
I’ve notice the similar things! My first HM videos are honestly outdated the more I’ve grinded. I pressed new game about 6 months ago and need to set up a white tail grind as an example… I did my moose grind again and I stacked max weight estimate makes, didn’t care if it was a 5, diamond potential or any other factors and if I’m behind honest, it ended up shooting down my zones even faster than trying to only put diamonds to stack. My first grind was 2100 with Hm no G1… my new grind, 378 with a G1. I am willing to bet I am right, but I love love love hearing others views and thoughts!
What did you think of the Mr. black glitch?
@@JBizHuntsI missed the Mr. Black glitch before it was fixed but it’s great evidence for what you’re thinking. The bigger thing to me is what you just said, focusing on stacking max weights over waiting for a diamond to pop up and how that boosted your grind. I’m absolutely going to try that! Probably on red deer or fallow. I’ve left my moose setup to try and get another GO but it’s managed so I can’t test as well there.
@@bendrummerk yeah, with red deer I would stack the crab rack 8’s and all 9’s… eveything else would weigh too low since red deer has 9 levels.
So, essentially, shoot the highest weight range possible each time?
I’m new to these strategies but have commented (and subscribed) before either here or on Reddit.
Thanks for your content, I dig your style.
there’s one tiny problem in your explanation now I’m typing this after watching the videos so I think the theory is great but like I said, there’s one problem Jackson I think it’s his name said in a hunter called the wild live stream that they removed the weight class to level system because there was a glitch in the game that let you put two points into one skill tree, and one point into the other skill tree, which let you see in animals, exact weight and even though they do use the same system he confirmed that the system was changed so that says to me that it’s running off of an entirely different system, but with the original one still in there, and if I dare say a little bit that Jackson kind of confirmed/disconfirmed that there can be naturally spawning great ones and it was a bug that they removed so he said in his own statements that I’m not going to say whether there is or there isn’t, but we haven’t seen a naturally spawning great one in the community since the game released, which basically just confirmed that yes you can’t spawn a great one naturally unless you’re hacking but he did semi confirm this so it’s always possible but very very unlikely and the fact of the matter is is that no matter what to get a great one it’s based off the leveling scale. I do think the theory is a good one though because of the whole weight system idea so. it isn’t really a theory that I can fully say doesn’t work or it doesn’t exist, but it’s also a theory that I can’t deny either or accept because he raises some interesting points as like he said the great one fallow deer at max level will always spawn with the spoon/Mickey Mouse rack so it’s very suspicious. I’ll have to say, but this can easily be proven as once a great one spawns it’s randomized the weight and the rack except for that one but that’s a longshot at best so well I can’t say that this is true. I also can’t say this is false. It’s tricky.
OK, there’s one more problem that I found in the recording. He said that’s why you’ll never see a level five medium white tail. There was actually a time where you could if you go back to the first release of the game on PC if you grind out and you found a great one Whitetail and then you left and rejoined the map. It would spawn as a level five instead of a 10 fable. So theoretically speaking at one point there was a five medium, but it got removed.
@@Luke-j8m I honestly thank you for taking your time to write such a long and throughout response. It is a theory, and theories are meant to have holes poked or to be proven. I still think that weight plays a part since weight dictates levels. The guy you are referring to is jaxxybeard, and the thing that was fixed was the weight estimate tracking system. There was a way you could pick up a track and know the precise weight of the animal. Basically you could easily find diamonds and the game was broken at the time.
@ yeah like I said, I can’t agree that the theory is 100% right, but I thought about it for quite a long time and the more and more that I think about it the more and more that I think it’s right
@ I’ve had people in the comments say similarly… they come back and say “you know what I think you are right”… one person pointed out great one pheasants prove my theory
@ yeah I don’t know like you mentioned you’ll never find a level one moose with a level five rack or you’ll never find a level one white tail max weight there’s a lot of ways. I’m sure people could say it’s wrong but like I said, you can’t deny that it makes more sense if you even just think about it a little bit at first I said to myself, his theory is crazy. They removed that weight system along time ago and then I remembered no they just removed a hack that could let you see the exact weight of diamonds and that was how people could hack and shoot the game cause that’s when diamonds only classified by the level by their weight, but then I started thinking it a little bit more like you said you’ll see Max animals with only certain kinds of racks like the great one fellow deer only at its max level can have the spoon rack but it can choose between five different variations of the color of its fur and I thought to myself again this makes it harder for me to think that it’s disproven, but the evidence is starting to stack up and then eventually I just got to the point where I just said until further notice he’s right. By the way, I’m not the best at typing and I sometimes use speech to text while I’m typing so if there’s any spelling errors like I read one part that said like I said, but it was supposed to be like you said so that’s my bad.
Ive been saying its weight for years. ive always managed by weight all because thats how the spawn mechanic was created way back in teh beginning under the old scoring system and weight range was all important, they never changed the spawn mechanics when they changed the scoring system and truracs.
@@brojajacra that’s what I found and why I made the video, they just added TruRacs Ontop of the old system. This makes the game a bit more random! Probably explains why when you botch shot a great one it goes down 1 medal to gold… it’s actually a diamond weight spawn possibly? On old mechanics
I want to tell you my story. I belongs to older player (with years of life ... ), so the slow style of the game suits me. I spent a about year in Layton L. just hunting there. I had no idea about the gameplay mechanism. And here's what happened (by the way, I have a print scr of all the trophies I shot) The first whitetail diamond weighed 97.29 kg /Trophy Rating 280.90 (2020 year), then the second one was 97.13kg /TR 257.50 (2020 year) and then one day I literally collided with GO (I mean - that's why this game remains #1 in my heart, I've never had such a rush of adrenaline in any game - ever) Yes, my friend, I got GO which was 103.30 kg /TR 407.60 (2021 year)This is my experience - what do you think about him? And that I know exactly which rules I followed during the entire game and hunting in LL during that year. After that I bought other expansions, but I never wanted or wanted to do grinding for GO, this experience with GO fulfilled me completely for ever.
@@behathehorrible1643 I love the story! It’s very similar to my first great one! I have all 9 stories in another video on my channel. But, I essentially just grinded for cash so I can get more tents for trophy hunting… and when I saw him, what a rush! That’s why I love this game so much! I get the same rush from a big rare or a diamond still! Love the story! Thanks for the comment!
@@JBizHunts Thanks for sharing the same sentiments. That's why I think your theory makes sense, but I'm also of the opinion that apart from those main mechanisms for triggering high or diamond/go trophies, there are some additional "spices" in the whole story. Spices that make the whole process easier or harder...
@@behathehorrible1643 agreed! That’s why it’s a theory and EW won’t let us know what the spices are! But those extra spices are what make this game amazing
@@JBizHunts I completely agree, because even though we have the main ingredients, each of us also uses some small additional spices that we check during the game. I wish you more videos for you , and more these little detective discussions of ours :-)
this makes so much sense. so based on the weight theory, a max weight 4 has a 10% chamce to come back as a GO?
@@crash_course_gaming97 I would say a lot less. A 10% chance of being a go if it comes back as a diamond. There’s a Reddit post explaining the mechanics of the respawn score…so basically if it becomes a diamond it has a 1 in 10 chance to be a go… so your goal is to spawn diamonds to get a go… think of diamonds as golden tickets… And every other animal as silver… silver still has a chance but those golden tickets are your best opportunity… that’s why HM works… there’s still RNG so if the diamonds keep staying diamonds it leads to a long grind
@JBizHunts ill be putting these newer tips into motion in about 3hrs..
@ yeah, you’ve inspired me to make my “how respawns” work a 2 part series: part 1 the basics, dealing with each zone etc… part 2 the math… I’ll share this guys findings on how they work
I think the antler roll could have more impact than you think. So you have to figure out a way to isolate the weight variable by itself. I think The best way to test your theory would be to set up 2 moose grinds. On one grind only keep your level 2’s with the smallest racks, and on the other keep your level 2’s that have the slightly larger antlers with both on the smallest weights. And see which one produces great ones more. If you can eliminate antlers from impacting the spawn rate of great ones, then your theory on weights would be correct. And I think you might be on to something with the consecutive harvest bonus maybe even getting added on as a small multiplier for large rolls.
@@jameshsi5505 the thing about antler rolls is that two animals, let’s say moose, who have the same antler but different levels, the higher level will weigh more. Two moose with similar antlers but different levels will always weigh less. Antlers attach to the bull in weight ranges. That’s why there are the big rack and little rack diamonds for most species, and weight is what separates them. I feel like every weight range has a “big rack” and “small rack” for the ranges in weight. Like there’s a big 3 rack and a little 3 rack for moose. Which, makes sense since the biggest level 3’s make gold and the smallest 3’s score similar to a big 2
I shot me a diamond Harlequin Duck that didn’t even have a rack so… 😂😂😂 racks I guess don’t matter lmfao.. 😅
@@Affordable-Guts ducks diamond ratings are based off of weight, so basically the original system since they don’t have racks.
I’ve recently started a Great One Whitetail grind on Layton and am already seeing results which is great. But I do have a few questions for you (after watching this, your herd management videos and whitetail videos).
First of all, thank you for the guides. I find scarecrow and ladylegend to be helpful but your guides have been much easier to understand. Anyways, my questions,
1. If an animal is max weight but not diamond potential in a main zone, should I kill or save it? I’m assuming kill it but wanted to make sure.
2. You mentioned to leave small level 2 bucks (antenna rack) and treat them like a level 1. My question involving that is what if I have a rack buck (not antenna) that scores less than the antenna rack? I kill anything that doesn’t have an antenna and is level 2 that aren’t potential diamonds. But I have some antenna racks that can score 190+ at max score. Then others that are max score 160’s. So far I’ve been leaving any level 2 antenna rack under 175.
@@coltonhisey8229 answer #1: There are two arguments: kill then and only keep max level (the highest weight) to drive down the herd… or dirty herd management and keep all max weight estimate even if they are level 2, since they will weigh enough to drop down the respawns… it’s your choice on how fast or proficient you want to do this… answer#2: just like max level animals can troll and they may have huge estimates, estimates can be misleading that an atenna rack will always score mid 150’s so my bet is an antenna rack with a 150-190 estimate will always score at the bottom and weigh the least and that’s why you don’t shoot them.
@@coltonhisey8229 also! Thanks for the kind words! I love crow and legend, but I too wanted to make a guide for others to be a bit more easier
@@JBizHunts thank you for the quick response! Understood! How has your theory went involving weight spawning great ones over trophy score? Have you had better results since incorporating that? Are you making another video on it soon?
@@JBizHunts anytime! Agreed. They know their stuff too obviously. I just prefer the way you’ve explained everything. Very thorough and easy to follow.
@@coltonhisey8229 I may! I have a few other videos that I’ve been working on! I just put out this week my lodge tour and a best maps to find diamonds and rares video. I got 1 or two more vids in the works then I may revisit this and do another spin! I pressed new game so I will start a brand new grind and incorporate weight from start to finish
Will you be making a guide on spawning great ones using this knowledge
@@Yourfavguitarist hey! I’m going to do a herd management 2.0 version soon! But a lot of the knowledge in my other herd management videos hold true, except I think I can make it a lot simpler and make stacking simpler as well! Thanks for the comment!
@@JBizHunts yes please!!! So many videos are still so confusing on how and when to shift modes during your stacking phases!! I.e when to and how to hunt the solos, whatnot do etc
You got yourself a new subscriber due to this video… and I refuse to do a GO grind… just would find it boring
@@kennethhill6094 I have a herd management video current only my channel about how to deal with solo zones, go check it out! It’s my newest one
@@jamesjennings8574 yeah! They can get monotonous! However, when I get my first one the feeling got me hooked! However, I’m a hybrid player and LOVE all rares and diamonds. Thanks for the subscribe!
I’m so confused so level 3 is highest for whitetail
@@samhrdlicka1387 yes, level 3 is the highest level for whitetail unless it’s a great one then it’s Fabled 10
@@JBizHunts that’s dumb
@@JBizHunts no lvl 4 or 5 wow
@ wait till you find out red deer are the only deer species to go to level 9
@@JBizHunts I don’t like there racks tho
Yeah i did notice the racks always affected the weight of the g1s
@@aaronpoopoo9906 very perceptive to notice! None of the big content creators have ever mentioned it out of all the content I’ve watched!
I mean, personally I would think if it were to be real world realistic, shooting small animals to allow the big ones to continue to grow into bigger “great one” status would be the key but in the end… they don’t grow on the game. Although I think if say the bears would occasionally be seen with cubs, and random animals were found to be dead from old age and fishing was a thing on the game, that it would be even more fun to play.. I’m new to the game but love it so far.. I also don’t heard manage or anything because I don’t want to just sit and grind kill hopping from tent to tent to pick them up.. I just play. Although I do use the invisibility glitch and ultimately kill them at point blank range a lot. 😅
@@Affordable-Guts herd management isn’t for everyone. Way of the hunter is a game that uses genetics and animals do grow. I find this game works smoothly and not everyone has time to wait for animals to grow! Hope you enjoy theHunter as muck as I have!
Some of it must be weight related, i have a super fallow zone w 4 herds, and 8 level 2 stags. Took 3k kills to manage that zone. I shot 3 solos for my "hm". Since managing that zone down, diamonds started spawning like crazy.
HM must have some effect on grinding for GO's.
@@cheesesniper473 that’s my point! The lower the level the lower the weight because weight makes levels. That’s awesome! Did you get your go?
@@JBizHunts not yet, the grind is real lol.
I’ve killed about 8-9k animals between a few grinds and haven’t gotten a go (5k fallow and 4k tahr) do you think that could be bc I use a .300 to grind or just bad luck?
The .300 would not affect your grind. I use the 300 on my grinds to drop the bucks in their spot. What would affect your grind is if you don’t harvest (pickup) your animals. That affects the grind. Also, if you are not using Herd Management the grind will be longer. Check out my HM videos or my fallow grind video for tips.
@ oh okay I guess I just had been unlucky then. I’m probably just gonna start a grind for black bear using the 4 lake thing any tips?
@ I’m working on that method now… you could make it a 6 lake method but a video should come soon on that!
@@JBizHunts oh okay thanks I’ll have to check it out when it does
I been doing heard management and shooting down bad zones stacking rares and Dimonds i tend to hunt with a real life mind set so the bigger ones go 1st but i haven't actually focused on harvesting the heavy weights consistently so for 2 days now thats what i been doing realistically i only got maybe 3 or 4 hrs played in those 2 days and i got a lvl 2 melanistic whitetail buck gold after 30 kils im pushing 2000 kills
@@brandonstrickland1685 that is amazing! Did he make gold? And are you seeing heavier max weight bucks spawning more?
@JBizHunts yes he made gold I just got a gold albino not 2 mins ago I just started with the weight so I'm not really seeing a big difference just yet other than 2 rares but if it works as you say and you ain't ever guided me wrong with your videos so I can assume with a little more time and few more cycles I'll see a more noticeable difference
@@brandonstrickland1685 you are on fire! I only have a gold scoring piebald whitetail.. all my albinos and melas are silver
I don't like grind, but I collected all the diamond for 3 year stalking and the game won't let me go. In general I decided to grind a little. Fallow deer GO-easy, red deer-hard, black bear, whitetail, moose-unreal. But.... yesterday I decided on the contrary to accumulate all 227-290 kg black bear (max weight) and killed only the rest male. Got GO from 46 kills.
@@Vladislav-mu1nz so you were stacking the max weight estimates and while stacking a black bear go appears! Super luck! 🍀
@@JBizHunts Early I did contrary. Killed the max weight bears. Day after day passed, hundred after hundred and nothing happened.
@@Vladislav-mu1nz ah! Well like I said in the video, there still is random number generation in the game. So, then you left the the max weight ranges and started shooting the rest instead?
@@JBizHunts Yes, I left the the max weight and started shooting the rest. So I got my first a GO black bear from many unsuccessful attempts do it right. (Killed only max weight animals).
What is the indication that your kill/harvest will influence your next spawn? I kill a 6 red deer, then I get a 4 for it. Then I kill the 4 and get a 9 diamond. Is it not that the game spawns completely random animals. Independetly of what was shot prior. And the higher the trophy rating the lesser the spwaning chance.
@@Inquisam there are still random factors in respawns. However, if only harvesting one animal and waiting the allotted time for a respawn is the only way to make this accurate. However, if you are shooting multiple males of the same animal they can swap zones. You could harvest a 6 in one zone and a 4 in another and their respawns swap. Making it seem like the 4 jumped to 9 and 6 went down to a 4. But in reality the 6 is what became the 9 and the 4 stayed a 4 but swapped.
Sounds logical. Somehow. Do all animals have an internal ID? Or is a 4 that spawns again in a different zone not actually a completely new animal? I really do not know it and would like to understand how people come up with the theory that individuals respawn again. Instead of a completely new random entity. The coding for random entities would be so much easier, with the same results. Therefore I am wondering, why so many people believe they can influence the respawns. Did the devs ever indicate something?
@@Inquisam the animal population file is set when you first enter a map. If there’s 100 bears and 60 are female and 40 are male, those numbers never (shouldn’t) change. I’m not sure if they have an ID, but it make sense. You shoot bear A, B and C they all go into respawn. Their locations on the map can swap or change when they respawn, since all bears are solo. When a herd animal gets harvested the herd is static and if one animal gets harvested from zone 1, 2 and 3 the a, b,c can switch the zones, but their respawn is based on the harvested animal, but the location of spawn may be different than the original animal. Unless you shoot 1 male from 1 herd zone, and nothing else, it will have no other choice but to respawn into the same herd as there is no other “open chairs” for them to spawn into. I hope that answers the question.
Very interesting. Thanks a lot.
@@Inquisam the game has been out since 2017, lots of hours played amongst many creators and members who have shared how this all works. I’ve been playing since console release in October of 2017.
Way of the hunter also uses weight and culling male animals that have defective racksd and older females to helps grows the herd stronger. Cotw doesn't use elimination animals with bad racks but focuses on weight & males not female. I've been shooting small animals to keep the big ones around so offsprings are from the bigger animals but I don't think this works in cotw. I agree with your analysis that in cotw harvesting the larger animals the game will increase in difficulty by spawning larger animals that are smarter with spooking and weight. That's how the game progresses to challenge you. As far as G1, never seen one or got lucky. I have grinded for red deer but at this point, I find it more enjoyable to just play random then tent & tripod whole map. The whole beaver thing is annoying. I will use your advice and start going for larger animals and hope they respawn bigger ones.
Yes, when I won’t shoot any low level animals even outside of great one grinding. Like, if I’m out hunting Grizzly on Yukon Valley, I won’t shoot any Grizzly under level 5 for this very reason. The respawn has the best chance to be bigger if you leave the smaller ones on the map. For great ones though it’s just an additional to the current level difficulty system based on weight. So, the mechanic has to work similar since the underlying system is old and been around since 2017. Thanks for the comment! I own WOTH but haven’t gotten into it just yet! I’ll have to try!
Thing is most of these people are on PC which means there not saying they have mods ?
@@samhrdlicka1387 There are a lot of creators on RUclips. The verified partners like LadyLegend, Scarecrow and Flinter as an example would have to be approved by expansive works to get early access and other perks. I applied (I’m on console but if I ever get approved I’ll decide if I want to go on PC from Xbox) and in the application it says no tolerance for mods and cheating. I’m sure they can do a check on your system to see if mods are in your gameplay files. However, other pc creators who are not partners with EW could be using mods. Not saying they are, but it’s in the realm of possibility. My whole channel was made on Xbox so I’ve never got to witness modded servers or players.
On Layton I have every drink zone found and blasting all my 3-4’s and still nothing has showed up yet I know my Dimond is there but not sure if I blast him or leave for the chance of getting my great one
@@anthonykontos7931 are you down to your last zones? 10-16 final zones where all the rest are shot down?
@@JBizHunts basically all my zones are 3-4 respawns . Lots of zones with just females or 3 males and one female
@@anthonykontos7931 but are all your secondary zones 1’s an 2’s males?
@@JBizHunts twos are there yes i took two out last night
@@anthonykontos7931 then keep shooting and rotating on the 3s and 4s
So good i had to watch it again
@@beaur2552 thank you for the comment!!! Hope I earned a sub!
@@JBizHunts I subbed awhile ago my guy
I shot a lvl 4 moose with a lvl 1 rack yesterday! Was it a glitch? Perhaps...
@@demoncore5342 blacktail has a similar glitch… a level 4 with a weird split rack. The games not perfect
@@JBizHunts Yeah man, but more I'm thinking about it, you are right about the 1000 point system. Like why fallow is the easiest G1 to get!? Beside consec you used to have integrity and quick kill adding up to 1000, and as it is, you have plenty of guns holding integrity and instantly dropping a fallow... In a sense, using .300 to grind for deer might be the most counterproductive thing ever.
@@demoncore5342 when I was getting 4 follows in a row I was strictly using my the M1 all at an average under 500
Why are you whispering???
@@marijn17s for dramatic effect! Plus I don’t want EW and Jaxybeard to hear me! Thanks for the view and the comment!
@@JBizHuntswhy you don’t want these monkeys hearing you
Because it's a conspiracy? We don't want him to go missing for spilling the truths!
@@alexanderclute4149 hahaha 😂
Great video and interesting theory!
@@Mr.Biffen thank you! Much appreciated the comment! I’m happy the community so far has enjoyed the theories
Tbh ive lost interest in playing this game since diamomds dont feel like an achievement to me anymore, but great omes are too far out of reach for me even with heavy HM my grinds are all taking over 4k kills. It would be OK for me to grind if diamonds actually got me excited, but they dont.
@@blitzhunts man!!! Either get tighter on your HM to ramp up the chance for a great one…. Or do what I did in April and press new game. You keep your lodge but get fresh maps and you just replay them, find new initial spawn rares and diamonds! It renewed my love for the game! I still have maps I haven’t played yet since I restarted
@JBizHunts that's not the issue- the issue is diamonds are no longer and achievement because they are too easy. I get one every 6-12 kills for whitetail so my HM is cracked but never spawns a great one like the content creators
@JBizHunts in fact I tried making content but I can't grow a channel without great ones let's be honest. So I give up
My advice is you don’t need great ones to grow a channel, and a channel should be about your interest and what you love! I have a fantastic career IRL and I make content because I enjoy it with no pressure!
@JBizHunts well, I was interested in hunting Great ones but they never spawn for me. And we'll show me ONE popular creator that doesn't grind and get dozens of Great ones il wait
I determined something similar while grinding Tigers before the update.
I managed to get a diamond every 10-20 kills by making sure all of my male tigers were lower weight estimates. 1 level 5 at 168-220. 2 level 6 at 220-272 and 4 level 7 at 220-272. I started with a level 7 at 272-324 but made sure he was gone before killing the only tiger I would shoot.
I've had over 80 diamonds with 4 max weight, 2 were trophy score 60 and 2 were 59.7. I also had a mythical 8 score over 57 but I shot him in the head unaware he could even make diamond.
@@hectech yes! This works for all species I do believe. But simply put, great ones are the highest weight, so makes sense why they would spawn quicker from a herd managed grind! I never bother to grind tigers, I got 2 diamonds and 2 rare’s so didn’t want to push it as I didn’t have space in my lodge.
@@JBizHunts nice thanks for all the info. I never used to "grind" anything before tigers. Before the latest map I would "herd manage" by only shooting higher level animals until I finally got a diamond.
@@hectech yeah, that’s how I got started in herd management was trying to get a diamond of every species. So on SRP I didn’t have any initial spawn diamond bison, so I started setting up and shooting all the big ones until a diamond showed up. Then I moved on and did the same for Blacktail deer… and then I accidentally did the same to red deer and ended up with 9 great ones as I told the story about my great ones in another video on the channel.
this was such a waste of time everything you pointed out is just what Hm is. anybody who knows anything about RNG and call of the wild knows this already and I can also say its not always proven either. just last week i had G1 fallow spoon off of a level 2 that got into my main zone and he is the only buck there so i know he spawned off of it.
@@daltonclark4479 did you shoot any other males on that rotation? You do know males can swap zones. You could shoot a 2 in one zone and a 4 in another and the respawns can swap. It’s a trick used when grinding black bears on SRP to swap males and females and swap small males for large males. I appreciate the comment and the view though! Yes, everything I did point out is HM, the main thing that’s different is to focus on weight, when most players/grinders focus on trophy rating. I appreciate all the comments and criticisms! Happy hunting my friend.
@@JBizHunts he was the only 2 I shot on that rotation because my respawns were all gone besides him so I shot him main menu and came back and all my spawns were back and the G1 was in his place
@@daltonclark4479 sweet! That can happen because your herd is well managed I presume. If you watched the whole video I have a part about my theory on how respawns work and there is probably an unknown number that gets added to the respawn that can be smaller or bigger depending on the weight distribution of your herd. I did say at the end that it’s basically all RNG, but herd management does help by forcing the game to potential add more to a low level respawn. So, you basically proved it works! Awesome! Thank you