This is not a comment on the watch, but on the quality of the review. Very well done. I appreciate the no-nonsense approach that offers all the relevant information.
I've just purchased the standard model. Holding the two in my hand the visual differences were negligible. The anti-magnetic and 5 day run time of the 400 movement were both features I'd not find particularly advantageous on a daily wearer watch. The greater accuracy is something I do value but so far the basic movement is keeping great time I'm at the point whereby I probably only need to adjust the time when I need to adjust the date. Had the 400 movement been nicely decorated I'd of possibly been swayed, but its certainly no Omega. I also got a far bigger discount on the standard model that was offered on the 400 so for me it was just a fraction over half the price of the 400 and I feel a far better value for money.
@@adventureswithtime Yes but I was asked not to tell anybody so I'll not be naming them. The standard watch was £1,600 but they knocked £300 off. The 400 was £2,700 and they'd only knock £200 off this. So it was a no brainer for me and I have absolutely no regrets.
Your assessment of the 2 watches makes good points. The upgrades to the 400 will not have an appreciable value to every potential buyer. Particularly if the 400 is not your only, or go to watch. And, the cost difference is very significant.
Hi from the UK. Thanks very much for a really engaging post, I really enjoyed it I'm wearing my original Aquis. It's was bought after my beloved 1990 Tag diver was stolen. I couldn't bear to replace the Tag with another so opted for the Aquis because of the brand independence and history. It's a bit big maybe, too heavy maybe and the bezel is too tight but I'm very happy with it and it does get comments from people I meet. I would not spend the extra on the upgrade. I wind mine for about five seconds not five minutes! If I could afford the update and was looking at alternatives I'd go with a Tudor 58 or Pelagos. I tried them at the boutique the other day, they're stunning.
Wow. Very through review of the new aquis, I appreciate the level of detail you go into describing it and the fictional outback’s quirks. I own the 2nd generation Aquis w the Sellita SW200 but I wouldn’t consider the new one. It is a technical achievement for the brand, I couldn’t justify the cost for double barrel and 5 days power reserve. The 10 year service is attractive, I’ve only had my Aquis for three years and have worn it every day and not sure of the service cost of that one yet. Again, great review and keep them coming
Thanks for the video. As a regular Aquis Date owner I was curious on what I was missing out with the caliber 400 movement. Seems it's not worth the extra money for me. Let's not forget guys, the regular one is a quality piece and not a lesser version of the Aquis.
I had the same thoughts on the beautiful green dial ones. The 400 looked even more striking. With all the Addition Features and the rubber strap in Hot weather, i got it and never looked back. Great Video, especially showing the Feature setting the watch. No Problem when you know it.
After everything I've learned about this watch, despite my earlier comments, I would buy this watch. I love movements and I have the Oris Calibur 400 movement as a picture up on my wall at work. To me, accuracy per day is the most important feature and then power reserve.
Well done, gives everyone a solid review while doing research. I have an Aquis Date with the Relief Bezel, a very nice watch, however not the most accurate. I'm pleased to hear they have stepped up the accuracy and power reserve. I do like Oris as a company as well, with a long-stored history, but a culture that embraces today's customer needs.
Súperb, I have an older model on the rubber band w/orange markers. It runs about 11+ seconds. I love it and cannot bring myself to pay the $340 service fee to get regulated for better time. I subscribed.
Thanks for subscribing and sharing your experience. I have yet to have to service any of the watches in my collection except for the Tiffany branded Patek that's being worked on now.
That was probably the best watch review I have ever seen... EVER! Thank you for your efforts. This video was as entertaining as it was informational. You have earned a new subscriber. Thanks.
Thanks very much for this video. I bought the Caliber 400 when I got a 25% discount from an AD. I couldn’t resist with that cost savings. And it’s a gorgeous watch on the wrist! I really appreciate your information on how to fully power the watch to get the full 5 day power reserve. That information is not provided in the owners guide and I could not find it online including searches on some user forums. I don’t consider the “jumping “ issue to be a problem since there is a work around. Personally I consider it to be just an interesting characteristic of the movement. And finally, I very much enjoy your easy going approach to your videos, offering your opinions but emphasizing that each of us should make our own choices based on our individual tastes and interests.
@@mdtaylor2274 The AD I referred to was Tourneau. They offered a holiday promotion in late 2020. This was an online transaction since there is no storefront in my area. It was a great experience for me overall.
What a great review, thorough, interesting, informative and helpful and engaging. I had been considering buying the selita version, but personally like the look of the new calibre 400 aesthetically with the blue ceramic bezel. I would find the jumping minute tanned frustrating, but very good to see the work around that you have discovered. Your your video has certainly given me some interesting points to consider whilst making my decision, Thank you very much indeed
A fair review. Thank you for taking the time to capture a bit of the VR experience. I was curious about what it even was about. I also appreciated that you contacted Oris about how to fully wind the movement and set the time. I'm still having to argue with people over the Engineer Wannabe review where he didn't do his homework and is apparently bad at math. I don't think he is going to make it being an engineer. I work in engineering so I can say that. Haha! Looking forward to more reviews.
Great viewing; a very detailed review that covers every key element. Good news on the announced smaller size/different colour models from ORIS, with the 400 movement!
@@adventureswithtime I love Sinn watches. Have my eye on a few, which are in direct competition with the Aquis Calibre 400. I like the EZM 7, EZM 9, and EZM 13. I like the UX diver, and the 857. If I go the Sinn route, it would be for a tech packed watch. They are so cool 🤩
A very nice review. Well done. I have and have had a couple of Oris watches during the years and I’m a big fan. I owned a “Selita-Aquis” for a few years, a watch I was very happy with. It wore great and was running about 4 s/day slow. Although I love all the new specs of the new 400 movement I’m a bit unsure about the jumping-minute “quirk”. It might be a quirk but I don’t think it belongs in an otherwise, as it seems, great movement. My Seamaster 300 (admittedly a more expensive watch) has double barrels but does not exhibit this behavior. I’m glad that there is a work-around but, in my own personal opinion, there shouldn’t have to be one. Not at $3500. Thanks for a great video. Take care.
My thinking is that you only need to set the time when the spring runs out if you let it sit. So not such a big deal. But then there is the idea that it should have been designed better; not sure if that is a reality. Seems people hate this or don't care.
@@adventureswithtime I agree with you that practically this is not a big deal. You know the quirk and you take it into account. However, most people buying a mechanical watch for 1000s of dollars do it for the design, fine engineering, etc., and not because it is practical. I bought my Aquis about 3 years ago for €1400 (new, grey market, box & papers, etc.). Now, with this better movement, Oris has moved the Aquis up into a significantly higher price range and I would have expected them to do better than this. All other specs are great or fantastic but this mechanical quirk (as they and many likes to call it) is unnecessary, as proven by e.g. Omega. This is just my personal feeling towards this. Maybe I wouldn't have cared a couple of years ago. I'm sure they'll be successful with this new line of movements. Oris is a great brand in so many ways and if they correct this issue / quirk I'll definitely buy one. Cheers.
@@adventureswithtime It’s a good question. Oris has a loyal fan base that is willing to oversee a quirk like this. They’ve done extremely well with the Divers 65 and the Aquis (I’m a big fan of both, I had a D65 as my daily watch for a long time) but now they are moving these models from pre / start of entry level to start of mid level and not all fans will follow. They will have to convince the old fans and attract new fans. I think they’ll manage. It’s a solid brand with a great history producing watches that are very recognizable. My way of thinking is not uncommon among watch enthusiasts, but watch enthusiasts are admittedly not a very large group. It will be interesting to follow.
@@adventureswithtime oh that would be great. I'll have to search for the comment. My wife is going to kill me because I also just bought a Tudor Pelagos. But hey I only live once 😄
Good review. I am trying to decide between the Tudor black bay you mentioned and this watch so it was a surprise that you mentioned the Tudor in the video. I know as a brand Tudor has probably the more prestige but I love the blue on the aquis
Thorough and interesting review. Even realizing that watch collecting is not itself a pragmatic endeavor, I still would find it difficult to justify the price difference. IMHO.
I would have to agree. It’s hard to justify the price difference and if one need to service the caliber 400 movement they would need to probably send it back to Oris directly and wait a long time for it’s return. Whereas if one would purchase the Aquis with the Sellita movement, one could get it serviced locally. I am personally eyeing that beautiful Cherry Dial
Great thorough video. I recently picked up the calibre 400 on the rubber strap from jomashop on sale. Seems to be running a bit fast, the time grapher said +17s/day. I think this is unacceptable for the cost, and renders the 5 day power reserve useless. Will this get better over time, or if out due to that slipping of the crown when setting? Oris Australia control all parts and 3rd party servicing so it's expensive servicing and 12 weeks (serviced my Aquis sw200 last year and wasn't cheap , 1/3 of the watch price). Interesting to know about the winding, that is an excessive amount. My Hamilton khaki handwind is much easier to turn to top up etc, no date. Perhaps I should return the oris and keep my old one, but wanted the smaller 41.5mm and thought the new movement would be Abbot more special. Thanks
@@adventureswithtime yes I sent it back for s refund. They warrant the movements themselves but aren't authorised dealers so no warranty with Oris. The 10y warranty and service interval was part of the attraction of these. Anyway I've still got my 43.5mm sw200 so will just keep that. Seems like the new movement is a bit hit and miss but it's a lot more expensive. Cheers
Also I can't see anyone winding the thing for 5 minutes to get the advertised 5 day power reserve, and didn't like the feel of the slipping minute hand. Funny how my Seiko tuna solar keeps -1s per day in comparison.
I'm not a collector, but I do wear the Oris Aquis Date with a green dial on an almost daily basis. Agree that not having more color choices is a miss. I love the green dial/bezel on my watch and prior to your review was waiting for the 400 in green, just for the power reserve. However, having to wind it for so long is sort of a joke. I'm sure it'll self wind plenty as I wear it, but would I spend $3.5k for the upgraded model? Nah. I'd rather just buy a winder. Seeing the reserve in some way would have been a welcome feature though. I think that's another miss by Oris. There's something to be said for understated elegance, but a way of knowing the power reserve (even if it's on the back like Grand Seiko implemented in one of their movements) would be ideal. Currently in the market for another watch and nothing is jumping at me saying buy me (except the gold Daytona with green dial), but I'm not wearing a car on my wrist (though might be tempting at retail, but no way an AD will sell me one at retail).
I like your analogy of wearing a car on your wrist. Buying a watch is like buying a car. You can go for basic transportation/time telling, or you can go for luxury.
Great video. Love the chapters. I am struggling to buy the 400 @$3500. If I had a local AD and could snag it for $2800 or something, no brainer. But at $3500, that’s pushing close to used seamaster territory
I don't know what sort of discounts one can get from an AD. Now that the watch has been out there for a while, you may be able to get some discount. Share if you do.
@@adventureswithtime a guy in a Facebook group I am in got one for $2600+tax which is a steal for what these are capable of. When I next go on vacation, I will be checking out the ADs to see what I can manage. I’d love one of these.
Very well done video, and very important for me to watch. I have the 300 and 400 and will sell one. I am torn, but either one seems like a good choice.
@@adventureswithtime at the end, I bought the 43.5 I am wearing it on my right hand which is slightly bigger than left. Most likely after it was crashed long time ago and got bigger. Anyway the watch wears quite compact and it is perfect fit. Cheers
That minute hand jump happens with a lot of movements. It's something I've gotten used to with many Seiko NH35 movements that are extremely accurate but have that weird jump when setting the time. It would not discourage me from buying this Oris. Also, I believe in not winding watches too much more than to make the second hand start. Winding is a hardship on many components in a movement. I would not wind as many times as suggested by Oris.
Hey Bob; It David 1188 your on the ground field reporter coming to you, and your viewers with a long awaited solution to the jumping minute hand on the calibre 400. I noticed after a few winding, that when you get the minute hand where you want it, just go back, and forth, ever so slightly till the tension is off the barrel spring’s, and push the crown in. There should be no movement in the minute hand when the tension is released. Really no trouble at all. As far as I can see, problem solved 👍🎉🎆
They are very nice watches. I'm going to be keeping a close eye on Oris to see where they are headed. Certainly they are making some interesting moves.
Too much money for the new "quirks and features", I prefer the sellita one. One can get a Tudor for 3500. Love your face while doing the infinite winding 🤪. Great review as always 👏
@@adventureswithtime Yes, I have a pretty good relationship with my local AD and I'm interested in a BB 58, the last time I asked for a discount they quoted me $3500 for it.
Great vid! I have the 39.5mm aquis. I'm tempted to upgrade to the newly released 41.5mm calibre 400. But it'll cost me thousands. Definatley being anti magnetic, long service internal and 5 day reserve are fantastic features not normally seen on watches costing just a few thousand!
Complimenti per l'interessante video. E' la recensione più precisa e obiettiva di quelle lette sinora in internet. Ho acquistato il mio Oris Aquis cal. 400 da 41.5 mm color antracite già da qualche mese e né sono molto contento, ho ottenuto anche uno buono sconto. Il problema della lancetta dei minuti che scatta, in modo appena percettibile nel mio caso, si corregge seguendo le istruzioni fornite da Oris. Pochi parlano, non è il tuo caso, della garanzia/revisione che offre Oris di dieci anni e che personalmente apprezzo molto credo che sia unica nel suo genere. Con questa bella recensione hai guadagnato un altro iscritto. Un saluto da Roma
I'm considering the Oris Aquis for a first Swiss watch. Would you considering the Oris as a good Swiss style watch for a newbie? The price seems very reasonable.
As I am currently an owner of an ORIS watch myself (Aquis GMT), I can say 100% yes; this is a great watch and not just a newbie, but any keen collector of Swiss timepieces. ORIS has a reputable, highly respected watchmaking history and have consistently produced amazing watches, without cutting corners that other similarly priced competitors do!
I’ve just purchased the original movement with the red router on the back and I’ll wait and see if they fix that quirk and produce some different colour dials first before I upgrade interesting watch though 👍
Great review, they absolutely should have at least had a quick adjust on the bracelet since you cannot change out although it is a nice bracelet.The price should offer the quick adjust...it's 2022 come on .
Good video, especially since you are a relative newbie to the hobby. When it comes to these two watches, I think I would rather spend the extra money on another more "top tier" watch. I can't see paying a 59% premium for the 400 model. Also, I am a gadget guru and would rather give them time to work the kinks out of that new movement. There are too many things that can go wrong.
The auto wind on the 400 is terrible. I love the watch but 5 day is not realistic. I purchased two. One for me and one for my dad. Same issue on both and we are both very active
Is either the Oris 400 or the Tudor bb58 I think both are great and on the same level but Oris wins with that ten year warranty or does it ..btw it sounds like you were reading a script in front of you 😁🤣 good job though
Since the Sw200-1 is a dog, of course the 400 is worth it. I own 3 watches with this movement and two have broken down, including and ORIS Artix and a Tag Aquaracer.
@@adventureswithtime They are actually not clones. The parts are not interchangeable. If you Google the differences you will be surprised to learn of differences in thickness and shapes. The Sellita is known for shearing teeth on certain gears. It happens more often when you manually wind the movement. There are other issues too.
@@adventureswithtime It's always a plus to have the resistance, but unless you work in certain heavy industries or specialised professions, your watch will be just fine. I have never had any of my watches even slightly magnetised, ever.
Oris says Quirk, I say Design Flaw. They're not going to fix it, because it's a Quirk, not a flaw! No other double-barrel movement know to man has this flaw. Sorry: Quirk.
To be clear, Oris did not say quirk. I gave it that adjective. I don't know enough about double barrel movements to say whether this is common. To me, the bottom line is that with this designated way of hacking, there is not problem for the user.
@@adventureswithtime I can accept that, but there should be clear communication by Oris about this. If this workaround is a factual designated feature, they should put it in the manual that comes with every watch with this calibre, now and in the future.
@@adventureswithtime sorry my man. I am no expert. I just love watches and I love your RUclips channel. But I think you can buy some pretty good ones around 50-100 dollars that will do the trick. Basically all mics is going to improve the sound. It’s only the sound , the video is good! Keep up the good work man. 💪🏻
Enjoyed the review thanks. I was going to mention the audio quality, but I’m glad I wasn’t the first.😅 I wasn’t going to continue watching because of the poor audio, but I persevered and I’m glad I did. Not sure what your set up for this was (built in mic in the camera?), but as a video guy, here are a couple of ideas. Ideally, the best place for a mic is as close to the talking head (you) as possible. Some use a seperate super cardioid mic on a mic stand (out of frame) into a stand alone digital audio recorder and sync the footage in post. A bit of work. Second choice would be a wireless lavalier mic system. You wear the mic and transmitter and the receiver sits in the hot shoe of the camera. Third, a directional mono mic on your camera (plugging into the mic socket of the camera). If your talking straight to the camera, the mic will pick up the best signal at what ever it’s pointed too (like a straight line). The narrow pick up pattern won’t pick up sound to the sides as much. You will still here some ambient noise incl some reverb of the environment, but not as much. That’s why ideally, a lav mic (closer to the source) is better but a bit more to set up. If I’m doing something quick, I’ll use a Rode VideoMic Pro+ myself on camera. I’ll try and put some blankets around to deaden the reverb of the room a bit. Perhaps talk to a video shop. Plenty of You Tube videos on this subject also (Curtis Judd, Gerald Undone etc). You may have your audio sorted by now.😅 Audio quality on video is SO important. Good luck if not.
The Aquis is a nice watch . Entry level for a decent Swiss made timepiece. Why anyone would want to pay this ridiculous price for a in house movement that’s badly designed with a terrible hacking fault that needs fiddling with just to get an accurate time set. And.......jeeez it take 200 turns or more to wind it up properly. Ah well some people have rocks in their heads for brains.
I keep trying to improve my video without spending a lot of money. Thanks for the feedback. I wonder if you've seen any of my latest videos and feel the same way about them.
Owned a 400 for 3 months now. I rarely take watches off my wrist. When I was working and active I had no problems. But over the holidays I was not working and not as active as normally I am. It would stop working at night when sleeping. As I got up and started moving around it would start working. I’ve owned many automatic watches and this is the first one to stop working while wearing it. I’m guessing it’s because it only winds in one direction. If you’re a person that sits down and doesn’t move much, shaking your wrist every once in a while can fix this problem. Since I’m a one watch man the 5 day reserve is not important to me. A big selling point is longevity. 10 year service and warranty is the biggest reason I chose the caliber 400. Other automatics last about 5 years on my wrist before they stop working due to oil degradation. I swim a lot so that may have something to due with accelerated oil degradation. Water vapor slowly seeps past the seals over the years and condenses and mixing with the oil. According to what I read.
@@adventureswithtime No but I'm sure it would help it to overcome a week of being lazy. Im back to my normal schedule now and it hasn't stoped working. Thats with never winding it by hand. Im happy with the movement so far. Im the perfect test subject for this new movement because the watch hardly ever leaves my wrist. The years ahead will tell.
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My video coming out 3/25 on their new Big Crown Calibre 473.
This is not a comment on the watch, but on the quality of the review. Very well done. I appreciate the no-nonsense approach that offers all the relevant information.
Thank you for your nice feedback
I've just purchased the standard model. Holding the two in my hand the visual differences were negligible. The anti-magnetic and 5 day run time of the 400 movement were both features I'd not find particularly advantageous on a daily wearer watch. The greater accuracy is something I do value but so far the basic movement is keeping great time I'm at the point whereby I probably only need to adjust the time when I need to adjust the date. Had the 400 movement been nicely decorated I'd of possibly been swayed, but its certainly no Omega. I also got a far bigger discount on the standard model that was offered on the 400 so for me it was just a fraction over half the price of the 400 and I feel a far better value for money.
Can you share with us what sort of discount you received and was it from an AD?
@@adventureswithtime Yes but I was asked not to tell anybody so I'll not be naming them. The standard watch was £1,600 but they knocked £300 off. The 400 was £2,700 and they'd only knock £200 off this. So it was a no brainer for me and I have absolutely no regrets.
Your assessment of the 2 watches makes good points. The upgrades to the 400 will not have an appreciable value to every potential buyer. Particularly if the 400 is not your only, or go to watch. And, the cost difference is very significant.
Problem with the 400 is that your getting closer to Omega, GS and Tudor level while the regular Aquis is good bang for buck
Do these watches have identical dials? In photos, the blue looks different, with the calibre having more sunray effect. Is this true in real life?
Hi from the UK. Thanks very much for a really engaging post, I really enjoyed it I'm wearing my original Aquis. It's was bought after my beloved 1990 Tag diver was stolen. I couldn't bear to replace the Tag with another so opted for the Aquis because of the brand independence and history. It's a bit big maybe, too heavy maybe and the bezel is too tight but I'm very happy with it and it does get comments from people I meet. I would not spend the extra on the upgrade. I wind mine for about five seconds not five minutes! If I could afford the update and was looking at alternatives I'd go with a Tudor 58 or Pelagos. I tried them at the boutique the other day, they're stunning.
Thanks for sharing. Not sure where in the UK you live, but I’ve heard a lot of issues in London with high end watches being stolen.
@@adventureswithtime j you're right. I'm close to London. It's a problem. I wear Casios in town.
Wow. Very through review of the new aquis, I appreciate the level of detail you go into describing it and the fictional outback’s quirks. I own the 2nd generation Aquis w the Sellita SW200 but I wouldn’t consider the new one. It is a technical achievement for the brand, I couldn’t justify the cost for double barrel and 5 days power reserve. The 10 year service is attractive, I’ve only had my Aquis for three years and have worn it every day and not sure of the service cost of that one yet. Again, great review and keep them coming
I would imagine it shouldn't be too expensive to service the Sellita movement.
Thanks for the video. As a regular Aquis Date owner I was curious on what I was missing out with the caliber 400 movement. Seems it's not worth the extra money for me. Let's not forget guys, the regular one is a quality piece and not a lesser version of the Aquis.
Some people like to go for the longer power reserve. It’s really up to the individual
Wow! I had no idea you had to wind the movement that much. Excellent video, sir.
Only if you want the full power reserve.
I had the same thoughts on the beautiful green dial ones. The 400 looked even more striking. With all the Addition Features and the rubber strap in Hot weather, i got it and never looked back.
Great Video, especially showing the Feature setting the watch. No Problem when you know it.
Thanks. I'm sure your are enjoying your watch. Let us know what other watches you have in your collection.
Another great review! As always, you've made a complete and impartial evaluation, keep it up Bob!
Thank you for the nice words. I try to be as impartial as I can.
After everything I've learned about this watch, despite my earlier comments, I would buy this watch. I love movements and I have the Oris Calibur 400 movement as a picture up on my wall at work. To me, accuracy per day is the most important feature and then power reserve.
Well, accuracy on this watch is very good.
Well done, gives everyone a solid review while doing research. I have an Aquis Date with the Relief Bezel, a very nice watch, however not the most accurate. I'm pleased to hear they have stepped up the accuracy and power reserve. I do like Oris as a company as well, with a long-stored history, but a culture that embraces today's customer needs.
I know they have gone under the radar for me until now.
Súperb, I have an older model on the rubber band w/orange markers. It runs about 11+ seconds. I love it and cannot bring myself to pay the $340 service fee to get regulated for better time. I subscribed.
Thanks for subscribing and sharing your experience. I have yet to have to service any of the watches in my collection except for the Tiffany branded Patek that's being worked on now.
That was probably the best watch review I have ever seen... EVER! Thank you for your efforts. This video was as entertaining as it was informational. You have earned a new subscriber. Thanks.
Thank you very much. Tell your friends. 😎
@@adventureswithtime You bet!
Your detailed analysis is really informative. Subscribed!
Thanks for watching and subscribing.
Just bought the 400, the best choice. Nice review.
I’m sure you will enjoy the watch.
Thanks very much for this video. I bought the Caliber 400 when I got a 25% discount from an AD. I couldn’t resist with that cost savings. And it’s a gorgeous watch on the wrist! I really appreciate your information on how to fully power the watch to get the full 5 day power reserve. That information is not provided in the owners guide and I could not find it online including searches on some user forums. I don’t consider the “jumping “ issue to be a problem since there is a work around. Personally I consider it to be just an interesting characteristic of the movement. And finally, I very much enjoy your easy going approach to your videos, offering your opinions but emphasizing that each of us should make our own choices based on our individual tastes and interests.
Thanks for the nice comments. Sounds like you got a good deal on your 400.
Hi Larry, would you happen to have contact details for the AD? Are they based in USA or Europe? Thanks 👍
@@mdtaylor2274 The AD I referred to was Tourneau. They offered a holiday promotion in late 2020. This was an online transaction since there is no storefront in my area. It was a great experience for me overall.
@@larryduncan3461 thanks Larry. I'll definitely keep my eyes open and check out their website. Best wishes.
What a great review, thorough, interesting, informative and helpful and engaging. I had been considering buying the selita version, but personally like the look of the new calibre 400 aesthetically with the blue ceramic bezel. I would find the jumping minute tanned frustrating, but very good to see the work around that you have discovered. Your your video has certainly given me some interesting points to consider whilst making my decision, Thank you very much indeed
Thanks. I'm always happy when I can provide some content that is helpful to others. Good luck.
A fair review. Thank you for taking the time to capture a bit of the VR experience. I was curious about what it even was about. I also appreciated that you contacted Oris about how to fully wind the movement and set the time. I'm still having to argue with people over the Engineer Wannabe review where he didn't do his homework and is apparently bad at math. I don't think he is going to make it being an engineer. I work in engineering so I can say that. Haha! Looking forward to more reviews.
Thanks. Yes it is clear how this movement works once you get the information from Oris. Thanks for watching.
most valuable and thorough review thank you i'm going with the aquis date
Thank you for the nice feedback. Keep watching and tell your friends 😀
Thank you for all the information provided, it was pleasant to watch. Cheers!
Thank you for the nice words. Please subscribe if you haven't already and let your watch friends know about this channel.
Your attention to details is commendable
Well thank you. I like to give people the option of going deep or just admiring the aesthetics of a watch.
Great viewing; a very detailed review that covers every key element. Good news on the announced smaller size/different colour models from ORIS, with the 400 movement!
Yes, I was thinking of asking to borrow one of the new one; but haven't done it yet.
Great review, and yes! This Calibre 400 Aquis has me considering making an Oris my first watch purchase over $1k.
You might also look at the Sinn 104. They are under $2K and nice also.
@@adventureswithtime I love Sinn watches. Have my eye on a few, which are in direct competition with the Aquis Calibre 400. I like the EZM 7, EZM 9, and EZM 13. I like the UX diver, and the 857.
If I go the Sinn route, it would be for a tech packed watch. They are so cool 🤩
I did thanks 😊
Thank you
Great review! I am strongly considering the 400 in blue, and this review gave some great info.
I’m glad you found it helpful
Good video work. Glad to see your getting notice by some decent watch makers.
It is nice to get loaners from some of the bigger brands. But I still need more hands on to continue to make content.
A very nice review. Well done.
I have and have had a couple of Oris watches during the years and I’m a big fan. I owned a “Selita-Aquis” for a few years, a watch I was very happy with. It wore great and was running about 4 s/day slow. Although I love all the new specs of the new 400 movement I’m a bit unsure about the jumping-minute “quirk”. It might be a quirk but I don’t think it belongs in an otherwise, as it seems, great movement. My Seamaster 300 (admittedly a more expensive watch) has double barrels but does not exhibit this behavior. I’m glad that there is a work-around but, in my own personal opinion, there shouldn’t have to be one. Not at $3500. Thanks for a great video. Take care.
My thinking is that you only need to set the time when the spring runs out if you let it sit. So not such a big deal. But then there is the idea that it should have been designed better; not sure if that is a reality. Seems people hate this or don't care.
@@adventureswithtime I agree with you that practically this is not a big deal. You know the quirk and you take it into account. However, most people buying a mechanical watch for 1000s of dollars do it for the design, fine engineering, etc., and not because it is practical. I bought my Aquis about 3 years ago for €1400 (new, grey market, box & papers, etc.). Now, with this better movement, Oris has moved the Aquis up into a significantly higher price range and I would have expected them to do better than this. All other specs are great or fantastic but this mechanical quirk (as they and many likes to call it) is unnecessary, as proven by e.g. Omega.
This is just my personal feeling towards this. Maybe I wouldn't have cared a couple of years ago. I'm sure they'll be successful with this new line of movements. Oris is a great brand in so many ways and if they correct this issue / quirk I'll definitely buy one.
Cheers.
@@matsleandersson1243 You are not alone in your thinking. I wonder if this is hurting their sales?
@@adventureswithtime It’s a good question. Oris has a loyal fan base that is willing to oversee a quirk like this. They’ve done extremely well with the Divers 65 and the Aquis (I’m a big fan of both, I had a D65 as my daily watch for a long time) but now they are moving these models from pre / start of entry level to start of mid level and not all fans will follow. They will have to convince the old fans and attract new fans.
I think they’ll manage. It’s a solid brand with a great history producing watches that are very recognizable. My way of thinking is not uncommon among watch enthusiasts, but watch enthusiasts are admittedly not a very large group.
It will be interesting to follow.
I would go with either, but it also depends on the overall look. I own the regular Aquis and I love it!
They have come out with several more versions of this since this video.
What's the accuracy like in the regular Aquis?
@@keefw361 It's been very good so far. Give or take a few seconds
After watching your review, I'll be buying the 400 next month. Looks like a beautiful watch and I love the blue dial. Thanks for your video 👍
Did you see another comment here that someone supposedly got a 25% from their AD?
@@adventureswithtime oh that would be great. I'll have to search for the comment. My wife is going to kill me because I also just bought a Tudor Pelagos. But hey I only live once 😄
Thank you so much for your such detailed information. I am considering to buy the aquis, and I can say I am thankful to you.
I'm glad you found it beneficial. Thanks for watching.
Good review. I am trying to decide between the Tudor black bay you mentioned and this watch so it was a surprise that you mentioned the Tudor in the video. I know as a brand Tudor has probably the more prestige but I love the blue on the aquis
Actually, blue is not a color I go for in my watches.
Great video though. Interesting question where should we get our watches service
I assume it might have to be Oris.
Your best review so far! Keep the great work!!!!
Thank you for the kind words
Just waiting for my calibre 400. I'm soooo excited.
Cool. I’m sure you will enjoy it
@@adventureswithtime Oh for sure. It's my first "serious" and automatic watch :)
Thorough and interesting review. Even realizing that watch collecting is not itself a pragmatic endeavor, I still would find it difficult to justify the price difference. IMHO.
There are lots of different thoughts on this movement and if it is worth the extra money. Can't wait to see how they sell.
I would have to agree. It’s hard to justify the price difference and if one need to service the caliber 400 movement they would need to probably send it back to Oris directly and wait a long time for it’s return. Whereas if one would purchase the Aquis with the Sellita movement, one could get it serviced locally. I am personally eyeing that beautiful Cherry Dial
Great video Bob maybe your best one!
I had some good material to work with.
Great thorough video. I recently picked up the calibre 400 on the rubber strap from jomashop on sale. Seems to be running a bit fast, the time grapher said +17s/day. I think this is unacceptable for the cost, and renders the 5 day power reserve useless. Will this get better over time, or if out due to that slipping of the crown when setting? Oris Australia control all parts and 3rd party servicing so it's expensive servicing and 12 weeks (serviced my Aquis sw200 last year and wasn't cheap , 1/3 of the watch price). Interesting to know about the winding, that is an excessive amount. My Hamilton khaki handwind is much easier to turn to top up etc, no date. Perhaps I should return the oris and keep my old one, but wanted the smaller 41.5mm and thought the new movement would be Abbot more special. Thanks
I’m not sure why It is not running well. That may be one of the issues dealing on the grey market. Have you asked Joma about it?
@@adventureswithtime yes I sent it back for s refund. They warrant the movements themselves but aren't authorised dealers so no warranty with Oris. The 10y warranty and service interval was part of the attraction of these. Anyway I've still got my 43.5mm sw200 so will just keep that. Seems like the new movement is a bit hit and miss but it's a lot more expensive. Cheers
Also I can't see anyone winding the thing for 5 minutes to get the advertised 5 day power reserve, and didn't like the feel of the slipping minute hand. Funny how my Seiko tuna solar keeps -1s per day in comparison.
I'm not a collector, but I do wear the Oris Aquis Date with a green dial on an almost daily basis. Agree that not having more color choices is a miss. I love the green dial/bezel on my watch and prior to your review was waiting for the 400 in green, just for the power reserve. However, having to wind it for so long is sort of a joke. I'm sure it'll self wind plenty as I wear it, but would I spend $3.5k for the upgraded model? Nah. I'd rather just buy a winder. Seeing the reserve in some way would have been a welcome feature though. I think that's another miss by Oris. There's something to be said for understated elegance, but a way of knowing the power reserve (even if it's on the back like Grand Seiko implemented in one of their movements) would be ideal.
Currently in the market for another watch and nothing is jumping at me saying buy me (except the gold Daytona with green dial), but I'm not wearing a car on my wrist (though might be tempting at retail, but no way an AD will sell me one at retail).
I like your analogy of wearing a car on your wrist. Buying a watch is like buying a car. You can go for basic transportation/time telling, or you can go for luxury.
Great video.
Love the chapters.
I am struggling to buy the 400 @$3500. If I had a local AD and could snag it for $2800 or something, no brainer. But at $3500, that’s pushing close to used seamaster territory
I don't know what sort of discounts one can get from an AD. Now that the watch has been out there for a while, you may be able to get some discount. Share if you do.
@@adventureswithtime a guy in a Facebook group I am in got one for $2600+tax which is a steal for what these are capable of. When I next go on vacation, I will be checking out the ADs to see what I can manage. I’d love one of these.
Very well done video, and very important for me to watch. I have the 300 and 400 and will sell one. I am torn, but either one seems like a good choice.
How will you decide which to sell?
amazing review!! thanks
And thank you for watching
thank for your detail review
You're welcome. It was fun making this video.
Thanks for video!
You said your wrist is 7.7 inch?
I have around 7" and balancing between 41.5 and 43.5
cheers
43.5 may be too large in my opinion
@@adventureswithtime at the end, I bought the 43.5
I am wearing it on my right hand which is slightly bigger than left. Most likely after it was crashed long time ago and got bigger.
Anyway the watch wears quite compact and it is perfect fit.
Cheers
That minute hand jump happens with a lot of movements. It's something I've gotten used to with many Seiko NH35 movements that are extremely accurate but have that weird jump when setting the time. It would not discourage me from buying this Oris. Also, I believe in not winding watches too much more than to make the second hand start. Winding is a hardship on many components in a movement. I would not wind as many times as suggested by Oris.
I’ve not noticed it on any other movement but agree it is not a killer to me
Nice review! Appreciate your organization, clear presentation, and honesty. The comparison against other similar models is quite helpful.
Glad you found it helpful. Please share with others so I can continue to bring you more content.
Fantastic, thank you. I'm currently researching, if i will buy the Caliber 400 or the regular Oris Aquis Date. Best regards from Austria.
Let us know what you decide and why you made that decision.
A perfect review!!!
Thank you. I’d appreciate it you tell your friends to watch.
@@adventureswithtime i will definitely tell them...it was super professional...i am sending you best regards from the holy land
Hey Bob; It David 1188 your on the ground field reporter coming to you, and your viewers with a long awaited solution to the jumping minute hand on the calibre 400. I noticed after a few winding, that when you get the minute hand where you want it, just go back, and forth, ever so slightly till the tension is off the barrel spring’s, and push the crown in. There should be no movement in the minute hand when the tension is released. Really no trouble at all. As far as I can see, problem solved 👍🎉🎆
Yup. In fact, you don't have to go back and forth just beyond and then back once.
Great video my friend! Looking forward to more videos!
Thanks watching. Tell your friends so I can continue to bring you interesting videos.
Oris is a great brand.. i really enjoy my Diver 65 bico (steel and bronze)
Did you see my recent video on their new Aquis Pro 4000 meter? It’s a beast of a watch
@@adventureswithtime I'll check it out 🤙🏻
Love my oris aquis black dial was on sale too £1600 to £1280 👌
They are very nice watches. I'm going to be keeping a close eye on Oris to see where they are headed. Certainly they are making some interesting moves.
I just bought the Green 41.5mm,i love it
Congratulations. I'm sure you will enjoy it.
Too much money for the new "quirks and features", I prefer the sellita one. One can get a Tudor for 3500. Love your face while doing the infinite winding 🤪. Great review as always 👏
Thanks. Are you finding you can get any discount on a Tudor BB 58?
@@adventureswithtime Yes, I have a pretty good relationship with my local AD and I'm interested in a BB 58, the last time I asked for a discount they quoted me $3500 for it.
I'm glad I watched this video. Was about to get the Aquis Calibre 400 43.5m. Gonna give it a Pass for now.
It's not bad. You just have to decide if the jumping minute hand during hacking is something that bothers you.
Did Oris ask to approve your video before posting?
No. No brand has ever asked to approve my content and I would never accept a loaner or compensation based on that as a requirement.
Hi. Tell me, what is the thickness of the case of this watch?
I show the specifications of these watches at 2:56 in the video
Great vid! I have the 39.5mm aquis.
I'm tempted to upgrade to the newly released 41.5mm calibre 400. But it'll cost me thousands.
Definatley being anti magnetic, long service internal and 5 day reserve are fantastic features not normally seen on watches costing just a few thousand!
Yup, I saw they came out with a few more varieties with this movement.
Complimenti per l'interessante video. E' la recensione più precisa e obiettiva di quelle lette sinora in internet. Ho acquistato il mio Oris Aquis cal. 400 da 41.5 mm color antracite già da qualche mese e né sono molto contento, ho ottenuto anche uno buono sconto. Il problema della lancetta dei minuti che scatta, in modo appena percettibile nel mio caso, si corregge seguendo le istruzioni fornite da Oris. Pochi parlano, non è il tuo caso, della garanzia/revisione che offre Oris di dieci anni e che personalmente apprezzo molto credo che sia unica nel suo genere. Con questa bella recensione hai guadagnato un altro iscritto. Un saluto da Roma
Thank you for subscribing. I hope that you will enjoy the Oris for many years.
I'm considering the Oris Aquis for a first Swiss watch. Would you considering the Oris as a good Swiss style watch for a newbie? The price seems very reasonable.
As I am currently an owner of an ORIS watch myself (Aquis GMT), I can say 100% yes; this is a great watch and not just a newbie, but any keen collector of Swiss timepieces. ORIS has a reputable, highly respected watchmaking history and have consistently produced amazing watches, without cutting corners that other similarly priced competitors do!
I think Oris is a perfectly fine brand. What really matters is whether you like it.
I’ve just purchased the original movement with the red router on the back and I’ll wait and see if they fix that quirk and produce some different colour dials first before I upgrade interesting watch though 👍
Sounds like a plan.
I'm sticking with the Sellita movement...
I fully understand that rationale.
very helpful
Glad you found it helpful.
I love the Aquis 400. It's killer on the rubber strap. I prefer it to my Seamaster 8800!
That's a tough choice to make. But there is a price difference.
Great review ! My new calibre 403 (less than a month old) is 1 mn too fast 😱 !
Great
Great vid
Thank you
great video
Thank you. Hope you subscribed
Well done video. And my decision? I just bought the caliber 400
Congratulations. How do you like it
@@adventureswithtime , very happy with it. Great watch for the $
The screwdown crown crown with seiko is the opposite
Which Seiko and opposite of what?
Our watchmaker discusses the caliber 400 specifically
This was a great explanation of the "quirk". Thanks for pointing us to it.
i bought the aquis pro 400 early this year. the quirks are manageable. it's a mistake to write off this watch at this price level.
Have you seen the new hand wind movement? I did a review recently.
20:37 😊P😊9
Great review, they absolutely should have at least had a quick adjust on the bracelet since you cannot change out although it is a nice bracelet.The price should offer the quick adjust...it's 2022 come on .
I agree
Aquis calibre 400 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yes you like it
WORTH THE MONEY. ITS MY NEXT PURCHASE. THEN BACK TO GET ANOTHER GS.
Which GS are you looking at?
Does anyone know, are the bracelets interchangeable from the Aquis and Aquis Cal 400?
I do not know. Sorry.
Good video, especially since you are a relative newbie to the hobby. When it comes to these two watches, I think I would rather spend the extra money on another more "top tier" watch. I can't see paying a 59% premium for the 400 model. Also, I am a gadget guru and would rather give them time to work the kinks out of that new movement. There are too many things that can go wrong.
Not sure this is a kink.
The auto wind on the 400 is terrible. I love the watch but 5 day is not realistic. I purchased two. One for me and one for my dad. Same issue on both and we are both very active
What's the problem with the auto wind?
It's a real tool!!!! Perfekt Diver!!
It does have some nice looks to it. Thanks
Christopher Ward offering an in house 5 day reserve for the price of Oris Selita base. $1,300 difference vs oris 400. I can't justify shopping oris.
people love to champion them as the go to for attainable luxury. When really, CW shits on them around every corner.
I understand your thinking.
Is either the Oris 400 or the Tudor bb58 I think both are great and on the same level but Oris wins with that ten year warranty or does it ..btw it sounds like you were reading a script in front of you 😁🤣 good job though
I like the Tudor BB58 better
You forgot the most important thing: the caliber 400 looks like a bear: 11:19
Maybe
Since the Sw200-1 is a dog, of course the 400 is worth it. I own 3 watches with this movement and two have broken down, including and ORIS Artix and a Tag Aquaracer.
So far I haven't had problems with the movement. Since they are theoretically clones of the ETA, why do you think they are dogs?
@@adventureswithtime They are actually not clones. The parts are not interchangeable. If you Google the differences you will be surprised to learn of differences in thickness and shapes. The Sellita is known for shearing teeth on certain gears. It happens more often when you manually wind the movement. There are other issues too.
Very good review. Love the channel.
Still think the watch is about a grand overpriced.
The salitta version should be nowhere near 2 grands lol.
So do you think that the inhouse model is worth a grand more than the Selitta? So that if the Selitta was $1000, this could be $2000? Just thinking.
Magnetic resistance is overrated.
Why do you say that?
@@adventureswithtime It's always a plus to have the resistance, but unless you work in certain heavy industries or specialised professions, your watch will be just fine. I have never had any of my watches even slightly magnetised, ever.
Oris says Quirk, I say Design Flaw. They're not going to fix it, because it's a Quirk, not a flaw! No other double-barrel movement know to man has this flaw. Sorry: Quirk.
To be clear, Oris did not say quirk. I gave it that adjective. I don't know enough about double barrel movements to say whether this is common. To me, the bottom line is that with this designated way of hacking, there is not problem for the user.
@@adventureswithtime I can accept that, but there should be clear communication by Oris about this. If this workaround is a factual designated feature, they should put it in the manual that comes with every watch with this calibre, now and in the future.
Love your videos man but you should get a new mic 🎤 sound is awful
I’m looking in to getting one. Any suggestions?
@@adventureswithtime sorry my man. I am no expert. I just love watches and I love your RUclips channel. But I think you can buy some pretty good ones around 50-100 dollars that will do the trick. Basically all mics is going to improve the sound. It’s only the sound , the video is good! Keep up the good work man. 💪🏻
Enjoyed the review thanks. I was going to mention the audio quality, but I’m glad I wasn’t the first.😅 I wasn’t going to continue watching because of the poor audio, but I persevered and I’m glad I did. Not sure what your set up for this was (built in mic in the camera?), but as a video guy, here are a couple of ideas. Ideally, the best place for a mic is as close to the talking head (you) as possible. Some use a seperate super cardioid mic on a mic stand (out of frame) into a stand alone digital audio recorder and sync the footage in post. A bit of work. Second choice would be a wireless lavalier mic system. You wear the mic and transmitter and the receiver sits in the hot shoe of the camera. Third, a directional mono mic on your camera (plugging into the mic socket of the camera). If your talking straight to the camera, the mic will pick up the best signal at what ever it’s pointed too (like a straight line). The narrow pick up pattern won’t pick up sound to the sides as much. You will still here some ambient noise incl some reverb of the environment, but not as much. That’s why ideally, a lav mic (closer to the source) is better but a bit more to set up. If I’m doing something quick, I’ll use a Rode VideoMic Pro+ myself on camera. I’ll try and put some blankets around to deaden the reverb of the room a bit. Perhaps talk to a video shop. Plenty of You Tube videos on this subject also (Curtis Judd, Gerald Undone etc). You may have your audio sorted by now.😅 Audio quality on video is SO important. Good luck if not.
Any watch that can’t keep within 2 seconds a day isn’t worth buying just my opinion of course
For that level of accuracy you should probably go quartz
Regular vs 400. It was the regular... now the 400 is the regular lol
What do you mean? Did they discontinue the non-400 model?
The Aquis is a nice watch . Entry level for a decent Swiss made timepiece. Why anyone would want to pay this ridiculous price for a in house movement that’s badly designed with a terrible hacking fault that needs fiddling with just to get an accurate time set. And.......jeeez it take 200 turns or more to wind it up properly. Ah well some people have rocks in their heads for brains.
I'm not sure whether it's worth the price. I don't need a 5 day power supply so would rather see a version with just a single spring.
Yes, I think you are right.
"Quirks"
Quirks
Great content, terrible audio, i hope You can inprove
I keep trying to improve my video without spending a lot of money. Thanks for the feedback. I wonder if you've seen any of my latest videos and feel the same way about them.
Owned a 400 for 3 months now. I rarely take watches off my wrist. When I was working and active I had no problems. But over the holidays I was not working and not as active as normally I am. It would stop working at night when sleeping. As I got up and started moving around it would start working. I’ve owned many automatic watches and this is the first one to stop working while wearing it. I’m guessing it’s because it only winds in one direction. If you’re a person that sits down and doesn’t move much, shaking your wrist every once in a while can fix this problem. Since I’m a one watch man the 5 day reserve is not important to me. A big selling point is longevity. 10 year service and warranty is the biggest reason I chose the caliber 400. Other automatics last about 5 years on my wrist before they stop working due to oil degradation. I swim a lot so that may have something to due with accelerated oil degradation. Water vapor slowly seeps past the seals over the years and condenses and mixing with the oil. According to what I read.
Have you tried winding the watch fully and seeing how long it keeps running during your low activity days? That would be interesting.
@@adventureswithtime No but I'm sure it would help it to overcome a week of being lazy. Im back to my normal schedule now and it hasn't stoped working. Thats with never winding it by hand. Im happy with the movement so far. Im the perfect test subject for this new movement because the watch hardly ever leaves my wrist. The years ahead will tell.