Inarius didn't escape hell, Mephisto let him go. Inarius was consumed by hate and Mephisto saw him as an "extra" tool against Lilith. Killing Rathma was just proof how consumed Inarius was. As Lilith said: Inarius couldn't hear heaven anymore - because he was already part of hell.
exactly, Inarius was the new hate representation in hell, Mephisto also wanted to be absorved by his soulstone. There are plenty of theories that say that Neyrelle has been manipulated by Mephisto since her mother died, and specially when she was at the horadric chamber, if we pay attention to the end she was pretty sure to convince u to use the soulstone with mephisto and not with Lilith, and lets be real Lilith its a true 3rd path, she hates demons and angels the same. And Mephisto appeared at the side of Neyrelle at the end so we kinda know the next dlc content, Neyrelle as Mephisto container most probably lets remember that Neyrelle and Leia are kinda the same character with the same history.
@@eltrolado5764 Both Inarius and Lilith feel absolute contempt for the weak - Inarius flat out hates humans for being weak, and Lilith flat out says the weak must die. And by "die" she means eaten alive by cannibals who may or may not unlock their powers and be considered worthy of joining her army. Remember Donan's son? Is that the "true 3rd path"? Also she doesn't hate demons, she quite frankly wants to rule over them, but the prime evils are/were just co*kblocking her. She wanted to consume Mephisto's power to become powerful enough (and maybe get a personal revenge), but she definately didn't have any second thoughts asking Andariel and Duriel for help, and making a deal with Astaroth.
@@Fullgrym How about Nevesk? Remember that in the Petal Scene we could hear children? Yeah no Children there when we arrive. Side note for the People who aren't scared of thick layers of paper full of printed Words the Sin War trilogy is a GREAT piece of background story for both Douchenarius and Evil Demon Stepmom.
I believe this is true and it may be the reason he changed his mind and thought he could go back into heaven after having been self-assured that creating Sanctuary would forbid him from ever coming back. His own pride blinded him to self-evident truths he knew before. Inarius becaming delusional and drunk on his own egotism (pride), which is what ultimately lead to his fall. Mephisto and Lilith used his prideful nature to great effect.
@@Fullgrym Human's are weak because that's what Inarius wanted. he MADE them weak. otherwise they woulda bitch slapped his ass around without breaking a sweat
Maybe Inarius is hiding his real motives? Maybe he wants to go to heaven to destroy it and get revenge, I found a little weird that he wants to go back to the heavens after they delivered him to mephisto.
From Inarius' eyes and view he probably thinks that the heavens are always correct. You have to understand that he's a named angel, a Seraphim. What's more "honorable" than being Angel in the high heavens? Even if they delivered him to Mephisto, from his pov he just wants to redeem himself. He wants to go back to the high heavens because that's where "belongs." Granted he was so deep into his motive that he died because of it. We can all agree he had ample opportunity to kill Lilith but couldn't. He thought she died and that was enough for him to be called into the high heavens. Theory wise it's overran by hell.... But even if it wasn't he was in a delusion of him "belonging" to the high heavens no matter what. He's 100% stronger than Lilith but was so out of it that he left himself open. His only questions he had was "what more can I do to join the high heavens."
To be fair, he might not even know they were the ones that sent him there, even if he did, he would honestly think it just part of his punishment for creating Sanctuary and laying with Lillith.
One possibility I havent seen discussed, and one that I feel would sufficenetly subvert expectations is that Inarius is the true main antagonist and that he wants to destroy Sanctuary, as a sort of psychotic form of absolution. We also dont know how he escaped from hell... Perhaps the Primes pschologically tortured him and drove him mad. A sort of angelic manchurian candidate, thats secretly or inadvertantly serving them while Lillith is actually trying to stop them... Albeit in demonic manner. If so it would be Mephistos greatest plan yet, few things are more terrifying than a desperate self righteous angel.
The one thing about the prophecy that makes me question this whole thing is this: Lilith is NOT Hatred. That title belongs to Mephisto. And its wierd that both Inarius and everyone in the world of Sanctuary seems to skip over this one thing. Now, the only other key to the prophecy is who (or what?) is "light"
@@buffydaslaya actually, in Heroes of the Storm, one of his voice lines implies that he *does* actually care about Lilith, even though he admits that their relationship is strained *at best*
@@Knight_Marshal Lilith is a daughter of hatred and possess a similar mind and disposition to Mephisto. And the core of her being is similar enough that you would call her a being of hatred.
*spoilers for the main story* So, the prophecy tells us about light piercing hatred's heart. In the end Lilith kill Inarus with his own spear through the heart. A fallen, disowned and embittered angel that made it his sole mission to kill Lilith. After such a long time he himself fell to hatred, he hated sanctuary, he hated Lilith, he hates the situation he's in. He has become the very thing he sought to destroy, he is consumed by hatred. This is why Rathma is sad, he knows that Inarus is destined to be consumed by his hatred, one way or another.
It's entirely possible that the prophecy was horribly misinterpreted if what you say is entirely true. A spear of light piercing hatred's heart. If Inarius is the "hatred's heart" then it would seem that what he interpreted to be his greatest triumph was actually his death foretold... Tragic.
Doesn't it seem weird to anyone that the angels in heaven willingly delivered Inarius to hell for captivity, torture, and possible death just because they don't believe in the same cause. Still, he wishes to return to heaven?
Inarius probably felt he endured hells punishment enough and that he paid the price for what he did. The higher ups in heaven probably face palming because their prisoner broke out early and is like "hey guys I think I did enough time in prison and want to go home now." While Mephisto is probably the black wolf in his weakened form who's back in sanctuary sniffing for Inarius after Inarius F**cked him up in hell where he ended up breaking out. lolol
@@BT-oj1bn not in this story. If I was Inarius I'd hold a grudge against heaven and hell to be honest. If I didn't, I'm still pretty sure those angels in heaven aren't particularly fond of me in return. I mean they did willingly and collectively decided to try to torture and kill me. Just because I'm a peace loving dude. Not anymore. I think they've made the point that they didn't want this guy around them.
@@danrothman6129 this is just me speculating. But yes, you're right. After all that I'd want to go home too. But now I want the house for my self. I thought we were friends but yall tried to kill me, so fxxk all yall.
They didn't quite deliver him "willingly", it was a bargain struck between Mephisto and the Angiris Council, in order to secure Sanctuary's neutrality, since he did lose his son Lucion, who was the head of the Triune and his daughter Lilith to Inarius's machinations, so heaven basically agreed to let him take Inarius with him as a sort of "good will" token, and recompense for his lost children, of course, the Prime Evils never honored the bargain completely, but it was his idea to begin with, a truce, to allow the mortals to decide if they belonged in heaven or in hell.
The one picture where you see a spire slightly similar to the spire in heaven is reaching my guy. It took Diablo becoming the prime evil for heaven to be tainted by his being. So unless Diablo, Mephisto, and Baal all manage to invade and conquer heaven I don’t see it getting tainted and taken over by hell. And even though heaven suffered great losses after Diablo fell and heaven was purified all their angels would have come back within a few years.
It's funny how the triple traitor believes he deserves to go to heaven. He betrayed the court of angels, he betrayed his beloved, he betrayed us and yet he has the nerve to not believe he deserves to burn in hell?!
Seeking an end to a never ending war and peace is something I can get behind. Also, Lilith can be his beloved but its not like she's not evil and that she didn't use and manipulate him.
From logic that makes no sense... demons are not ally lol have you played the gsmes and see what the demons do... naked. Bodies getting ate up and tortured children and adults... hanging on meat hooks for demons lol lillith id not a ally. Demons corrupt, torture and kill and angels can go bad by losing faith in humans which may lead to lost angel wanting to destroy humanity. You will not see angels even if lost faith torturing and eating human flesh like demons.
@@timesupea With how D4 portray both characters. Neither is good for humanity. Lilith is our ally but her method is evil and could lead to more deaths, Inarius doesnt care about us and only using humans for his goal of getting back to heaven
Off my night shift, my daily ritual of vibing to game lore while of course, vibing, begins here, and now. Shorter video or not, I'm glued to any and all information about diablo 4 ATM xD
It could actually be that the picture which we're seeing is maybe Hell's answer to the High Heavens city. Yeah they look alike, but didn't we purge the evil out of heaven? Could've sworn we did something like that in Diablo 3....
agreed. Also the eternal conflict would be over with the High heavens and the Crystal Arch be gone. No Reason in shutting the gates to heaven if Hell did dominate it. But i always wondered, If the high heavens have something like the Crystal Arch which is the spine of Anu and spawns the angels, shouldn't there be some opposing place in the burning hells born from some part of Tathamet? Also the two pictures look alike in the way there is a large tower in the center and some arround. But The details look too different for it to be just a corrupted Crystal Arch. The two thin large towers of the Heaven are missing. Also the Demonic part has some structures in the sky which make it look like its maybe inside a cave with buildings hanging from the ceiling. The more i think about it i don't think its the Heavens but some demonic counterpart to the Crystal Arch in the burning hells. The Demons need to be born somewhere right?
"Heaven has closed their gates, that's terrible!" ...... is it really? Like, aside from a few angels, the heavens barely did anything in the sanctuary. Their absence changes nothing to their decision to keep their hands off.
I dont know of any other angel from past or any other time that happened to be "tired" of eternal conflict. That means, they all are into never-ending struggle for domination. It must be within their very nature. To find out that one of them could even feel "tired" from fighting, must have felt like stain on honor.
Inarius didn't want to kill Lilith. He literally believed that spearing her with his weapon would have taken him to Heaven. Even Lorath called Inarius an idiot. The only good thing he did was creating Sanctuary so that we could play Diablo 4.
He very much wanted to kill her, he just didn't have the opportunity until she was released. Prophecy or not, he'd have probably tried to kill her. I imagine he regretted banishing her to begin with.
I would argue that "Light piercing Hatred's Heart" does not infer that someone or something needs to be killed. I would argue that it means that the light pierce hatreds heart in order to tame the hatred/abolish hatred itself, which could explain why Lilith shows obvious signs of empathy in the cutscene in the Cinematic with her and Inarius as she ask Inarius: What about our son?". Remember that both Inarius and Lilith joined hands and created sanctuary in order to escape the eternal conflict and that is Lilith's purpose still. Her pursuit of power in her mind, is most likely a solution to quell the conflict. A conflict that by nature cannot be quelled at all, since without conflict, nothing can exist.
Yea my view is that the prophecy of "Light piercing Hatreds Heart" is simply the actual union itself of Inarius and Lilith which could be viewed as Inarius being the Light and Lilith being Hatreds Heart as she is the Lord of Hatred's Daughter. Which means the act of their union is the prophecy itself. I find that the most plausible explanation. And i believe that this is what Inarius do not understand. He was / is an Angel of the Light, so him killing his own son, his own offspring, even if that son is in part demonic, surely would be against the high heavens standards for what is acceptable. Killing your own children surely must be one of the most heinous acts one can commit. The Light is representative of Love and if Love and Hate meet they cancel each other out in equilibrium and from that unified equilibrium a new and more balanced life emerged. @@ShadowOfTheSPQR
I refuse to believe the image at 2:27 is a picture of what Heaven looks like in this current time. There are similarities, but I honestly can't fathom Heaven being completely taken over. Imperius would never let it happen..............He'd be cleaving planets in half before he allowed that to happen. But on the flip side, this Diablo game specifically is going for very VERY hopeless and grim tones. Finally showing back up in Heaven, or Inarius showing up only to realize it's long been over run and destroyed would fit with the style they are going for. If true, that's Cormac McCarthy level of grim right there...
to be fair heaven was invaded by a reborn tathemet, the prime evil. all 7 heads not only that but it corrupted the crystal arch, the spine of anu which births the angels. i fear that the heavens have fallen to corruption, & that valor has become wrath.
@@cr90captain89 I mean even if it has...........As long as I see a cutscene of Imperius cutting a mountain of foes similar to the evil Jet Li beating everyone up at the end of the move 'The One'. Then I'm fine.......I just know that guy wouldn't stand there and allow them to setup shop without him going full savage mode....
@@DemonKnight85 With all my honesty, I hope I can kill Imperius on Diablo 4 at some point. The way he talked to me on Diablo 3, I would remove his limbs and put his heavenly balls on his mouth.
@@DemonKnight85 With Wisdom and Justice gone from Heaven's there's no saving them. Imperius can't think out of the box like Tyrael. He's too dumb and let his angry control him. Heaven is probably corrupted that's why they don't want to help anyone or let angel's help.
@@spymasterk4873 if he was trying to kill her in the cinematic he would have stabbed her in her heart or something. Not her abdomen which he is well aware of her being more then capable of surviving.
Yeah I don't think so. Imperious was left out of the events of reaper of souls. I assume that will be used to full effect either in the main story or the planned extra content and expansion. It looks less like hell and more like the wrath of imperious. Maybe Inarious will pierce hatreds heart and ascend back to heaven to clean up the mess his brothers made restoring a new balance in the heavens. One that isnt bent on the eternal conflict.... but thats unlikely because the narrative demands that conflict continue so that they can sell more games. And this is why I prefer a self contained story these days. A resolution can be written whether for good or bad, there is finality to a story. Imagine tolkien telling lord of the rings, but the ring never gets tossed in the mountain... it just ever gets passed from ring bearer to ring bearer for eternity. The same villain over and over just resurfaces to start the same problems. Thats diablo in a nutshell. I love a lot of the historical lore of the world of diablo but we're kind of at the point now where we're right where we started every time. I want there to be more change and more finality to the consequences of the narrative.
Imperius helps the player get to Malthael and asks you to end his sickness. He makes it clear that he doesn’t trust nephalem but he doesn’t want his brother (Malthael) to continue doing what he is doing either… Imperius IS actually part of the story in reaper of souls.
They are in it for the $$$ so the story has to keep going and there are only so many plot points. Its bound to become stale at some point. WW is another one. What exactly can they do or say that they haven't already?
tbh a never ending story of passing a ring from bearer to bearer throughout the ages doesn't seem so bad. It could get interesting with characters eventually recounting legends of characters you saw seasons ago, accurate or not. Jojo's Bizarre Adventure pretty much does this too and it's quite good for it. I don't disagree with you though, contained stories are pretty good and it's hard to keep things interesting on a never ending journey. Diablo's biggest problem is how small the world is. It doesn't feel right that it never ends. We beat major baddies every game, how are there still more?
When the protagonists in D2 killed Mephisto in Act 3 and destroyed his soulstone, the lore says that at that point, Mephisto's power in hell weakened enough for Inarius to break free, and escape.
2:35 would this be the reason Tyrael is nowhere to be found during this time? It was either Donan or Lorath (can’t remember who) who said to the wanderer that when Tyrael left the Horadrim he almost seemed scared about something, and that nobody knows where he went.
I can't posit which character but I think the problem is more someone he found than something related to heaven, and the entire track of theorizing about heaven in this video is quite off track I think.
hey dash know you probably won't respond to this but if you see it what happened to star wars Sunday? Have I just not been getting notified or Is that not happening anymore
Heya! Apologies for that. I wanted to do Star Wars on the weekends & Elder Scrolls but have a month to hammer out diablo content. Sadly it's on the back burner but shall return!! I just don't know what I'll cover outside kotor
The reason is not messed. Inarius stole the world stone and alongside Lilith created a new World to run from the war. A new world with creations that scared their creators, who used the worldstone to seal their powers. And due to this decaying world, the humans easily corrupted due to their half demon ancestry were being used to turn the table in hell's favor... Inarius made a huge mistake, form heaven's perspective.
I hope they don't go with Angel corruption, corruption is an overused theme by Blizzard, come on angels look cool, let them be strong and beat demons or something, let us be allies with a demon, anything a bit different of the usual corruption plot, maybe a purification plot for a demon or something?.
I totally agree! Heavens history is riddled with short comings and angels falling (Izual, Malthael, Imperius etc). Time for some demon-redemption-ark and angels getting their shit together!
Looking back in d3 days and earlier we speculated Inarius was way more badass and he and Lilith had a special Bond. I assumed he hated his brothers for closing him out permanently.
i doubt heaven is destroyed more of they arent letting anyone in or out right now due to the events of diablo 3, they already had one angel turn on them and i doubt they would want another corrupt archangel in their midst
Inarius's war for redemption is empty and he cannot earn it because he was never fully stripped of his title and power (think Tyrael in Diablo 3) his brothers simply gave him to Mephisto. He has not fallen, so how can he ascend to heaven's light? (at least that is my headcanon)
Tyreal didn’t betray the heavens to the highest degree. If tyreal stole the world stone and started fucking a demon and opposed the heavens and hell tyreal also would have been banished from the heavens forever.
@@evanmcc99 @evanmcc99 while I agree that what tyrael did was more of a sacrifice, I am more so referring to him being able to somewhat redeem himself, even after he had his angelic power stripped from him and was cast out. Inarius wasn't so much cast out as he was simply handed to Mephisto to be torture.
This video has been popping up on my recommendations so many times that I decided to come here and tell you that's not heaven it's the cathedral of Hatred you can see it faintly ingame and knowing the lore if heavens had actually fallen to hell things would be way worse
Fun watch but turned out you where very wrong about it being the silver city, it is the cathedral of hated you litterally see that exat Building when lilith collect her safe passage from asteroth to her fathers realm
Rathma was so wasted as a character in Diablo 4. Like seriously, first Generation of the Nephalim, around since the beginning of Sanctuary, son of Lilith and Inarius, founder and possibly greatest of all Necromancers - you find his corpse. That's it.
Inarius deep down knows he can never enter heavens gates again but why live the truth when a lie is so much easier to live in after all we nephalim take after him in that. Also the next installment I believe mephisto will bring Inarius back as his champion which will be interesting to see how the rest of his religion takes to that.
Mephisto is incapable of bringing back an angel. Inarius will come back the the angelic arch in the heavens and the council can’t stop that. Even then if you’ve seen the ending of the game you’d no that Mephisto isn’t capable of much of anything at the moment.
My question is How did Lilith gave birth to Rathma because I just don’t get it, did Lilith met with inarius like Human does or they Made some witchcraft and Rathma Appeared.
He couldn't go back because he got laid. The image shown of the hell version of the high heavens could just be a concept image because that's not what it looked liked in the ending cinematic of D3. If that was the case then were did all the angels go since they don't have the high heavens? That would also there is no balance anymore since hell took over heaven. It all makes sense.
Actually now if you look at how the cathedral of hatred looks like in the realm of hatred then what we see the concept art isn’t the silver spire so heaven hasn’t become an outpost of hell
Pretty sure it's the Cathedral of Hatred. Compare left image to the cutscene you see Lilith being ganted passage by Astaroth to the Cathedral in the distance.
Ummmm I'm not sure but it might have something to do with him banging the daughter of hatred creating a direct threat to heaven and hell but I'm not sure lol
But both Inarius and Lillith should re-form in the void or the crystal arch (if Inarius was allowed) as they should be powerful enough unless they retconned the lore for angels and demons.
The issue with that for inarius is that once a angel is regenerated their entire persona is altered. He would no longer "be" Inarius but would be a new angel with an entirely different role. Demons get to retain their identifies when they come back.
It is entirely possible to trap or manipulate souls. Whatever Lilith did when she killed him might've trapped his soul within hell. Or it could be from his extended stay down there, and Hell's corrupting influence, and he's too tainted to be allowed back in Heaven. Or the angels really want nothing to do with him, barring his essence from returning to the Arch and he just goes to Hell by default
The real reason? The prime evils and the angelic council both agreed to let them keep inarius to keep the burning hells from taking over sanctuary and the high heavens. Edit: The picture of the high heavens is mephistos area. He copied it because in diablo 3 thats where diablo died
I don't see how Heaven could be an outpost of Hell considering all 7 Evils were 'killed' by the end of Diablo 3. Mephisto is still recovering, and I assume Diablo and Baal would be the same. So who would be able to hold the Diamond Gates in Heaven on Hell's orders? No one in Hell except the 7 evils should be able to fight Imperius. Also at the end of Diablo 3 we see Tyrael in Heaven and it looks just fine. So I really doubt Hell has a stronghold in Heaven.
the eternal conflict makes that all of these demons and angels reincarnate. The demons come back as their prior forms and if i'm correct, the angels come back as random angels, but new ones nonetheless.
There's a bunch of bulls@#t reconning going on with Diablo 4 from Diablo 3. The Necromancer Chest Piece from "Grace of Inarius," Inarius's Conviction, literally says that Inarius knew he wouldn't be welcomed in heaven due to creating Sanctuary. Good Story in D4, obvious plotholes too.
Innarius was the anointed cherub of Ezekiel 28. The reason why he was banished from the third heaven was because of the multitude of his iniquities, and his wicked unrepentant treachery against the most high. He created trade, commerce and trafficking. The flow of money began with this Ark cherub. He was given eons of time to repent and make things right. He thought he had enough power to topple his creator. How wrong he was, how very wrong this created being was.
Inarius is like a typical person lacking self-awareness and is completely self-centred, selfish, greedy and egoistic... like an everyday worker who is disliked by all in a company just that few bothered to let him know about it, and all he ever owned and done was largely due to the company's platform and team success but he think that it's all due to him. He then leaves to create his own startup company thinking he's way more talented than everyone else think he is, only to fail in this endeavour and then decides that he deserves to go back to the home company and he'll be welcomed with open arms there
Tbh? I think people are over-hyping Inarius in their own heads. He's just insane... Broken... He's not a fake, he's not possessed. He's just pathetic, and wallowing in self pity.
Inarius didn't knew that once what he called home is now another outpost of Hell. He might have to fight his way back. If he had gone back to Heavens. Because at this point Heaven's also need help and Inarius could do it. But sadly he couldn't make it. Lilith destroyed his plans and him as well.
@@beastmotoz it was never confirmed Heaven is outpost of hell now. Truth being said most of Archangels were alive and Prime Evil was banished - there was cinematic where Heavens were purified from Demonic stain with Diablo defeat. Who exactly would be strong enough to beat Imperius and other Archangels when all Prime Evils were NOT PRESENT - reforming at best ? It is clown theory if anything. Hell had no means to take Heavens at this interval betweent D3 and D4 ... Gates of Heaven may be closed because Imperius ordered so etc. Many reasons. Also from lore/plot point - this is just stupid. It would mean eternal conflict was concluded "off screen" how bad writing it would require to pull this off ?
@@beastmotoz heaven is not a fucking outpost for hell. Do you have any fucking clue as to what would happen if heaven was completely corrupted and all the angels were dead and gone. Hell would run around unchecked and just because rathma closed the doors to hell that wouldn’t stop them at all. Sanctuary would have been destroyed and merely turned into an extension of hell. The heavens are perfectly fine they are simply waiting for more of their angels to resplendent from the crystal arch before doing anything again.
Inarius got his wings torn off when the Heavens delivered him to hell. They got his eyelids removed so he could witness the horrors and torture. How Inarius's wings grew back and how did he recover from that? In addition, how does he even have eyelids tbh, all we can see is the hood.
Likely the same way that Tyreal "reconstituted" himself after he destroyed the Worldstone at the end of D2. It took about 22 years apparently. Regular Angels cant do this, but it seems that higher tier Angels can reform themselves. Inarius was pretty high up in the hierarchy and wasn't totally obliterated like Tyreal was. He wasn't an Arch like the Angiris council Angels, but next in line to it. I'm assuming Izual was in the same position in some way.
the real reason is , heaven is gathering its forces , and is waiting for the arrival of 2 newly born angels that are the replacements of mathael and perhaps tyrael , as for lilith i guess she will be the first ever demon to turn into an angel , since we saw angels turning into demons but never the other way around
I honestly wish they'd get rid of the angels/heaven and leave that more on the lore side.. Diablo, to me at least, has always been humanity's struggle vs demons/hell.. not heaven vs hell
Inarius was suppose to be the fallen angel, and that is fine to most to say Angels can fall. What is most annoying, is that it looks like they are taking their beliefs from Star wars screwed up interpretation of taoism. and believe that good should balance evil, rather than defeat it. Taoism do not believe in one side is good or evil.
Do you even know a single fucking thing about Diablo. Aside from Diablo 3 we have had almost no involvement from heaven. Even then the extent of that involvement was us going to heaven.
Nah, something else is up. If Hell took over Heaven, then the Eternal Conflict would be well and truly over. All the demons would need do at that point is destroy the Crystal Arch, and all of the angels would be destroyed. Maybe some dark, twisted mockery of Heaven or something.
@@jpfranco8498 High Heaven is only place for Angle so no humans can be there. human souls passed on to an unknown location, beyond both Heaven or Hell. But I think mostly they are sent to hell cause of the Demonic traits in them.
@@jpfranco8498 the guy your talking to has no idea what he’s talking about. The crystal arch isn’t corrupted so inarius would come back. The high heavens and burning hells aren’t realms for the deceased to go to. He truly is just making shit up. Humans have demonic and angelic traits in them so to say that they go to hell is stupid. In D3 you quite literally fight an angel of death and go to purgatory where all the souls are. Wether they move on to somewhere else or we don’t know and for anyone to say otherwise means they are making shit up.
Diablo is the serpent who gave Rathma the prophecy. Diablo wanted Inarius and Lilith to kill each other, or be killed by some hero type. DLC will show us why Diablo wanted this. Because Blizzard knows its a Diablo game, and Diablo will appear in every Diablo game ... at some point.
Inarius is self consumed. A fallen angel acting of his own accord. He attempted to kill Lillith of his own accord, not for the heavens. Hes not doing any of this for anything or anyone other than himself. Hes damned.
Love the content but didnt your last video possibly reveal that the "Inarius" you see in game might be a fake? So we are still inna grey area to what is real. Just cause this angel looking figure is stating stuff doea not mean it is real. Could you explain more of what you think between the ghostly figures and the direct talk. Can we confirm they are the same? Could the ghosts be actual memoroes of inarius and rathma? Vs the angel looking figire be demonic? Do a video comparision to help us lore hounds dive deeper into the skepticalness we all love. Amazing video just getting a little confusing. Seems like we are working with different timelines. Help us dash. Your the help we seek!!! 😊😊
maybe thats just hell. it looks like heaven but the top of the structure is different. maybe heaven and hell look alike and heaven still looks like heaven just its gate are closed due to fear of losing more casualities in another war.
Maybe Diablo and his brothers have already infiltrated the Heavens. Maybe after defeating the Triune of Evil, we will take on the task of fighting the Heavenly crusade forevermore.
@@evanmcc99 no i haven't unfortunately. Too busy at the moment with real life stuff, but living vicariously through everyone. I understand that Mephisto was "locked up" but maybe their minions were able to infiltrate the heavens, especially with it already having been so weakened in D3. This isn't a stretch. I was also just going off of the OP's statements. Edit: I do know the ending and what ultimately happens :)
Inarius didn't escape hell, Mephisto let him go. Inarius was consumed by hate and Mephisto saw him as an "extra" tool against Lilith. Killing Rathma was just proof how consumed Inarius was.
As Lilith said: Inarius couldn't hear heaven anymore - because he was already part of hell.
exactly, Inarius was the new hate representation in hell, Mephisto also wanted to be absorved by his soulstone. There are plenty of theories that say that Neyrelle has been manipulated by Mephisto since her mother died, and specially when she was at the horadric chamber, if we pay attention to the end she was pretty sure to convince u to use the soulstone with mephisto and not with Lilith, and lets be real Lilith its a true 3rd path, she hates demons and angels the same. And Mephisto appeared at the side of Neyrelle at the end so we kinda know the next dlc content, Neyrelle as Mephisto container most probably lets remember that Neyrelle and Leia are kinda the same character with the same history.
@@eltrolado5764 Both Inarius and Lilith feel absolute contempt for the weak - Inarius flat out hates humans for being weak, and Lilith flat out says the weak must die. And by "die" she means eaten alive by cannibals who may or may not unlock their powers and be considered worthy of joining her army. Remember Donan's son? Is that the "true 3rd path"?
Also she doesn't hate demons, she quite frankly wants to rule over them, but the prime evils are/were just co*kblocking her. She wanted to consume Mephisto's power to become powerful enough (and maybe get a personal revenge), but she definately didn't have any second thoughts asking Andariel and Duriel for help, and making a deal with Astaroth.
@@Fullgrym How about Nevesk? Remember that in the Petal Scene we could hear children? Yeah no Children there when we arrive.
Side note for the People who aren't scared of thick layers of paper full of printed Words the Sin War trilogy is a GREAT piece of background story for both Douchenarius and Evil Demon Stepmom.
I believe this is true and it may be the reason he changed his mind and thought he could go back into heaven after having been self-assured that creating Sanctuary would forbid him from ever coming back. His own pride blinded him to self-evident truths he knew before. Inarius becaming delusional and drunk on his own egotism (pride), which is what ultimately lead to his fall. Mephisto and Lilith used his prideful nature to great effect.
@@Fullgrym Human's are weak because that's what Inarius wanted. he MADE them weak. otherwise they woulda bitch slapped his ass around without breaking a sweat
Maybe Inarius is hiding his real motives? Maybe he wants to go to heaven to destroy it and get revenge, I found a little weird that he wants to go back to the heavens after they delivered him to mephisto.
From Inarius' eyes and view he probably thinks that the heavens are always correct. You have to understand that he's a named angel, a Seraphim. What's more "honorable" than being Angel in the high heavens? Even if they delivered him to Mephisto, from his pov he just wants to redeem himself. He wants to go back to the high heavens because that's where "belongs."
Granted he was so deep into his motive that he died because of it. We can all agree he had ample opportunity to kill Lilith but couldn't. He thought she died and that was enough for him to be called into the high heavens. Theory wise it's overran by hell.... But even if it wasn't he was in a delusion of him "belonging" to the high heavens no matter what.
He's 100% stronger than Lilith but was so out of it that he left himself open. His only questions he had was "what more can I do to join the high heavens."
Nah he just dies
@@shidiwen1407 angels and demons cant die i mean they die but they resurrect someway, the same as lilith she didnt die at all she will resurrect.
To be fair, he might not even know they were the ones that sent him there, even if he did, he would honestly think it just part of his punishment for creating Sanctuary and laying with Lillith.
@@eltrolado5764 banished ones die.
One possibility I havent seen discussed, and one that I feel would sufficenetly subvert expectations is that Inarius is the true main antagonist and that he wants to destroy Sanctuary, as a sort of psychotic form of absolution. We also dont know how he escaped from hell... Perhaps the Primes pschologically tortured him and drove him mad. A sort of angelic manchurian candidate, thats secretly or inadvertantly serving them while Lillith is actually trying to stop them... Albeit in demonic manner. If so it would be Mephistos greatest plan yet, few things are more terrifying than a desperate self righteous angel.
This is so excellently put. I salute you sir.
You have nailed it.
The one thing about the prophecy that makes me question this whole thing is this:
Lilith is NOT Hatred. That title belongs to Mephisto. And its wierd that both Inarius and everyone in the world of Sanctuary seems to skip over this one thing. Now, the only other key to the prophecy is who (or what?) is "light"
I think it means inarius spear will peirce his own heart thats filled with hatred.
@@atomosvrial1708 could also be that the soulstone pierces mephisto who is literally the "heart of" hatred.
Didn't heaven self repair at the end of D3?
eh Matlhael kind of fucked it up even more
Lillith is just the daughter of Hatred. Wouldn't piercing Hatred's Heart be about her father?
Or maybe something Mephisto loves if he's even capable of doing so.
@@buffydaslaya actually, in Heroes of the Storm, one of his voice lines implies that he *does* actually care about Lilith, even though he admits that their relationship is strained *at best*
@@filipvadas7602 If Mephisto does care about Lilith, then maybe she has pierced Hatred's heart?
@@Knight_Marshal Lilith is a daughter of hatred and possess a similar mind and disposition to Mephisto. And the core of her being is similar enough that you would call her a being of hatred.
It 100% is about mephisto.
*spoilers for the main story*
So, the prophecy tells us about light piercing hatred's heart.
In the end Lilith kill Inarus with his own spear through the heart. A fallen, disowned and embittered angel that made it his sole mission to kill Lilith.
After such a long time he himself fell to hatred, he hated sanctuary, he hated Lilith, he hates the situation he's in.
He has become the very thing he sought to destroy, he is consumed by hatred.
This is why Rathma is sad, he knows that Inarus is destined to be consumed by his hatred, one way or another.
It's entirely possible that the prophecy was horribly misinterpreted if what you say is entirely true. A spear of light piercing hatred's heart. If Inarius is the "hatred's heart" then it would seem that what he interpreted to be his greatest triumph was actually his death foretold... Tragic.
Doesn't it seem weird to anyone that the angels in heaven willingly delivered Inarius to hell
for captivity, torture, and possible death
just because they don't believe in the same cause.
Still, he wishes to return to heaven?
Not to me. Hell seems terrible, heaven seems great. No matter what, I'd want to go to heaven
Inarius probably felt he endured hells punishment enough and that he paid the price for what he did. The higher ups in heaven probably face palming because their prisoner broke out early and is like "hey guys I think I did enough time in prison and want to go home now." While Mephisto is probably the black wolf in his weakened form who's back in sanctuary sniffing for Inarius after Inarius F**cked him up in hell where he ended up breaking out. lolol
@@BT-oj1bn not in this story. If I was Inarius I'd hold a grudge against heaven and hell to be honest. If I didn't, I'm still pretty sure those angels in heaven aren't particularly fond of me in return. I mean they did willingly and collectively decided to try to torture and kill me. Just because I'm a peace loving dude. Not anymore. I think they've made the point that they didn't want this guy around them.
@@danrothman6129 this is just me speculating. But yes, you're right. After all that I'd want to go home too. But now I want the house for my self. I thought we were friends but yall tried to kill me, so fxxk all yall.
They didn't quite deliver him "willingly", it was a bargain struck between Mephisto and the Angiris Council, in order to secure Sanctuary's neutrality, since he did lose his son Lucion, who was the head of the Triune and his daughter Lilith to Inarius's machinations, so heaven basically agreed to let him take Inarius with him as a sort of "good will" token, and recompense for his lost children, of course, the Prime Evils never honored the bargain completely, but it was his idea to begin with, a truce, to allow the mortals to decide if they belonged in heaven or in hell.
OMG I can't wait until tomorrow's video...that sounds very interesting!!
The one picture where you see a spire slightly similar to the spire in heaven is reaching my guy. It took Diablo becoming the prime evil for heaven to be tainted by his being. So unless Diablo, Mephisto, and Baal all manage to invade and conquer heaven I don’t see it getting tainted and taken over by hell. And even though heaven suffered great losses after Diablo fell and heaven was purified all their angels would have come back within a few years.
yeah, that seems like the cathedral of Hatred more than the spires of Heaven
It's funny how the triple traitor believes he deserves to go to heaven.
He betrayed the court of angels, he betrayed his beloved, he betrayed us and yet he has the nerve to not believe he deserves to burn in hell?!
Seeking an end to a never ending war and peace is something I can get behind. Also, Lilith can be his beloved but its not like she's not evil and that she didn't use and manipulate him.
He’s also been tortured for thousands of years. Is it fair for him to want to go home, yes.
What are the odds that Inarius is the main villain in D4? Lilith is looking to be more like an ally
From logic that makes no sense... demons are not ally lol have you played the gsmes and see what the demons do... naked. Bodies getting ate up and tortured children and adults... hanging on meat hooks for demons lol lillith id not a ally.
Demons corrupt, torture and kill and angels can go bad by losing faith in humans which may lead to lost angel wanting to destroy humanity. You will not see angels even if lost faith torturing and eating human flesh like demons.
They are both evil
@@timesupea I don’t think Inarius is “evil”, he’s just arrogant and doesn’t give a shit about Sanctuary, just returning to heaven.
@@braydenlovetere4545 he's a lunatic trying to play God it's a tale as old as time
@@timesupea With how D4 portray both characters. Neither is good for humanity. Lilith is our ally but her method is evil and could lead to more deaths, Inarius doesnt care about us and only using humans for his goal of getting back to heaven
Off my night shift, my daily ritual of vibing to game lore while of course, vibing, begins here, and now. Shorter video or not, I'm glued to any and all information about diablo 4 ATM xD
Vibing to game lore is the best kind of vibing, can't wait for the release
It could actually be that the picture which we're seeing is maybe Hell's answer to the High Heavens city. Yeah they look alike, but didn't we purge the evil out of heaven? Could've sworn we did something like that in Diablo 3....
Right and no way all the prime evils reformed within 50 years to be able to take the high heavens. Considering Diablo as the prime evil couldn’t.
agreed. Also the eternal conflict would be over with the High heavens and the Crystal Arch be gone. No Reason in shutting the gates to heaven if Hell did dominate it. But i always wondered, If the high heavens have something like the Crystal Arch which is the spine of Anu and spawns the angels, shouldn't there be some opposing place in the burning hells born from some part of Tathamet? Also the two pictures look alike in the way there is a large tower in the center and some arround. But The details look too different for it to be just a corrupted Crystal Arch. The two thin large towers of the Heaven are missing. Also the Demonic part has some structures in the sky which make it look like its maybe inside a cave with buildings hanging from the ceiling. The more i think about it i don't think its the Heavens but some demonic counterpart to the Crystal Arch in the burning hells. The Demons need to be born somewhere right?
Honestly that would also be fitting for hell to do.
Make a mockery of the High Heavens in their own image as a kind of F U to the angels.
Are you sure that we can see Silver City at 2:27? Maybe it´s the entrance to hell itself
nah that's just Detroit
@@Ciiiiiic 😅
Well there isn't a real difference between hell and Detroit, though 😀
Yeah its just slightly different enough to cast doubt.
@@Ciiiiiic 😂😂😂
inarius can't go back to heaven cos he's no longer a virgin
Lmfao 🤣
"Heaven has closed their gates, that's terrible!"
...... is it really? Like, aside from a few angels, the heavens barely did anything in the sanctuary. Their absence changes nothing to their decision to keep their hands off.
I dont know of any other angel from past or any other time that happened to be "tired" of eternal conflict. That means, they all are into never-ending struggle for domination. It must be within their very nature. To find out that one of them could even feel "tired" from fighting, must have felt like stain on honor.
Inarius didn't want to kill Lilith. He literally believed that spearing her with his weapon would have taken him to Heaven. Even Lorath called Inarius an idiot. The only good thing he did was creating Sanctuary so that we could play Diablo 4.
He very much wanted to kill her, he just didn't have the opportunity until she was released. Prophecy or not, he'd have probably tried to kill her. I imagine he regretted banishing her to begin with.
I would argue that "Light piercing Hatred's Heart" does not infer that someone or something needs to be killed.
I would argue that it means that the light pierce hatreds heart in order to tame the hatred/abolish hatred itself, which could explain why Lilith shows obvious signs of empathy in the cutscene in the Cinematic with her and Inarius as she ask Inarius: What about our son?".
Remember that both Inarius and Lilith joined hands and created sanctuary in order to escape the eternal conflict and that is Lilith's purpose still.
Her pursuit of power in her mind, is most likely a solution to quell the conflict.
A conflict that by nature cannot be quelled at all, since without conflict, nothing can exist.
This seems pretty on track.
Yea my view is that the prophecy of "Light piercing Hatreds Heart" is simply the actual union itself of Inarius and Lilith which could be viewed as Inarius being the Light and Lilith being Hatreds Heart as she is the Lord of Hatred's Daughter.
Which means the act of their union is the prophecy itself. I find that the most plausible explanation.
And i believe that this is what Inarius do not understand. He was / is an Angel of the Light, so him killing his own son, his own offspring, even if that son is in part demonic, surely would be against the high heavens standards for what is acceptable.
Killing your own children surely must be one of the most heinous acts one can commit.
The Light is representative of Love and if Love and Hate meet they cancel each other out in equilibrium and from that unified equilibrium a new and more balanced life emerged.
@@ShadowOfTheSPQR
Well watching all those Damned Souls drag his corpse to the depths definitely gave me hope that he'll make it back up there one day
I refuse to believe the image at 2:27 is a picture of what Heaven looks like in this current time. There are similarities, but I honestly can't fathom Heaven being completely taken over. Imperius would never let it happen..............He'd be cleaving planets in half before he allowed that to happen.
But on the flip side, this Diablo game specifically is going for very VERY hopeless and grim tones. Finally showing back up in Heaven, or Inarius showing up only to realize it's long been over run and destroyed would fit with the style they are going for. If true, that's Cormac McCarthy level of grim right there...
to be fair heaven was invaded by a reborn tathemet, the prime evil. all 7 heads
not only that but it corrupted the crystal arch, the spine of anu which births the angels.
i fear that the heavens have fallen to corruption, & that valor has become wrath.
@@cr90captain89 I mean even if it has...........As long as I see a cutscene of Imperius cutting a mountain of foes similar to the evil Jet Li beating everyone up at the end of the move 'The One'. Then I'm fine.......I just know that guy wouldn't stand there and allow them to setup shop without him going full savage mode....
@@DemonKnight85 With all my honesty, I hope I can kill Imperius on Diablo 4 at some point. The way he talked to me on Diablo 3, I would remove his limbs and put his heavenly balls on his mouth.
@@DemonKnight85 With Wisdom and Justice gone from Heaven's there's no saving them. Imperius can't think out of the box like Tyrael. He's too dumb and let his angry control him. Heaven is probably corrupted that's why they don't want to help anyone or let angel's help.
@@cr90captain89 to bad it hasn’t
Inarius didn't even kill Lilith in the cinematic, but somehow thinks he fulfilled the prophecy, wow, what a writing
He’s gone insane with delusions of redemption but he still loves Lilith, so he can’t follow through completely
He tried to kill her but failed
@@spymasterk4873 if he was trying to kill her in the cinematic he would have stabbed her in her heart or something. Not her abdomen which he is well aware of her being more then capable of surviving.
@@evanmcc99guess the prophecy was misread
Brother you have such nice voice to listen to
even if he technically could i'm decently sure imperius would clock him with the blunt end and sanctuario would get a brand new crater from it.
God wants to know if inarius will actually grow the hate in his heart if he doesn't get exactly as quickly what he wants
Yeah I don't think so. Imperious was left out of the events of reaper of souls. I assume that will be used to full effect either in the main story or the planned extra content and expansion. It looks less like hell and more like the wrath of imperious. Maybe Inarious will pierce hatreds heart and ascend back to heaven to clean up the mess his brothers made restoring a new balance in the heavens. One that isnt bent on the eternal conflict.... but thats unlikely because the narrative demands that conflict continue so that they can sell more games.
And this is why I prefer a self contained story these days. A resolution can be written whether for good or bad, there is finality to a story.
Imagine tolkien telling lord of the rings, but the ring never gets tossed in the mountain... it just ever gets passed from ring bearer to ring bearer for eternity. The same villain over and over just resurfaces to start the same problems.
Thats diablo in a nutshell. I love a lot of the historical lore of the world of diablo but we're kind of at the point now where we're right where we started every time. I want there to be more change and more finality to the consequences of the narrative.
Imperius helps the player get to Malthael and asks you to end his sickness. He makes it clear that he doesn’t trust nephalem but he doesn’t want his brother (Malthael) to continue doing what he is doing either… Imperius IS actually part of the story in reaper of souls.
They are in it for the $$$ so the story has to keep going and there are only so many plot points. Its bound to become stale at some point. WW is another one. What exactly can they do or say that they haven't already?
tbh a never ending story of passing a ring from bearer to bearer throughout the ages doesn't seem so bad. It could get interesting with characters eventually recounting legends of characters you saw seasons ago, accurate or not.
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure pretty much does this too and it's quite good for it.
I don't disagree with you though, contained stories are pretty good and it's hard to keep things interesting on a never ending journey. Diablo's biggest problem is how small the world is. It doesn't feel right that it never ends. We beat major baddies every game, how are there still more?
Maybe the grass isn’t greener on the other side and now he wants his old job back. I can relate to this IRL
Would love to know what happened to the angels by this point
Imperius wrath mode
Inarius still needs to answer how he got out of Hell
Mephisto did MK Ultra with him
Agreed, imo I don't think it's him. I still think he is imprisoned
When the protagonists in D2 killed Mephisto in Act 3 and destroyed his soulstone, the lore says that at that point, Mephisto's power in hell weakened enough for Inarius to break free, and escape.
@@bearbris686 ok but how he got back his wings he should be mortal like Tyrael
@@beastmotozhe never lost his powers
2:35 would this be the reason Tyrael is nowhere to be found during this time? It was either Donan or Lorath (can’t remember who) who said to the wanderer that when Tyrael left the Horadrim he almost seemed scared about something, and that nobody knows where he went.
I can't posit which character but I think the problem is more someone he found than something related to heaven, and the entire track of theorizing about heaven in this video is quite off track I think.
2:27 to me that looks more like Pandemonium
hey dash know you probably won't respond to this but if you see it what happened to star wars Sunday? Have I just not been getting notified or Is that not happening anymore
Heya! Apologies for that. I wanted to do Star Wars on the weekends & Elder Scrolls but have a month to hammer out diablo content. Sadly it's on the back burner but shall return!! I just don't know what I'll cover outside kotor
The reason is not messed. Inarius stole the world stone and alongside Lilith created a new World to run from the war.
A new world with creations that scared their creators, who used the worldstone to seal their powers.
And due to this decaying world, the humans easily corrupted due to their half demon ancestry were being used to turn the table in hell's favor...
Inarius made a huge mistake, form heaven's perspective.
Heaven is not becoming an outpost of hell, you can see it reforming in the CGI in d3
I hope they don't go with Angel corruption, corruption is an overused theme by Blizzard, come on angels look cool, let them be strong and beat demons or something, let us be allies with a demon, anything a bit different of the usual corruption plot, maybe a purification plot for a demon or something?.
I totally agree! Heavens history is riddled with short comings and angels falling (Izual, Malthael, Imperius etc). Time for some demon-redemption-ark and angels getting their shit together!
They were the worse enemies. They just move in straight lines.
@@slewone4905 What are you trying to say, I don't understand
@@Klemensch imperious never fell. His only mistake is when he killed Diablo against the wishes of his fellow council members.
@@evanmcc99 I didnt mean it literally. Rather like he fell from grace. He is borderline insane from pride and wrath
Looking back in d3 days and earlier we speculated Inarius was way more badass and he and Lilith had a special
Bond.
I assumed he hated his brothers for closing him out permanently.
What were inarius and lilith doing during reaper of souls? Could maltheus contacted inarius?
i doubt heaven is destroyed more of they arent letting anyone in or out right now due to the events of diablo 3, they already had one angel turn on them and i doubt they would want another corrupt archangel in their midst
Inarius's war for redemption is empty and he cannot earn it because he was never fully stripped of his title and power (think Tyrael in Diablo 3) his brothers simply gave him to Mephisto. He has not fallen, so how can he ascend to heaven's light? (at least that is my headcanon)
maybe he didnt 'escape' but was set free
@@ElysiaWhitemoonOmega who on earth would have set him free.
Tyreal didn’t betray the heavens to the highest degree. If tyreal stole the world stone and started fucking a demon and opposed the heavens and hell tyreal also would have been banished from the heavens forever.
@@evanmcc99 mephisto
@@evanmcc99 @evanmcc99 while I agree that what tyrael did was more of a sacrifice, I am more so referring to him being able to somewhat redeem himself, even after he had his angelic power stripped from him and was cast out. Inarius wasn't so much cast out as he was simply handed to Mephisto to be torture.
No, the real reason Inarius can't go home: he refuses to pay the entry fee of 50K gold
I'm guessing he never got past ACT 3 gotta beat that story mission then Inarius can get the way point there.
This video has been popping up on my recommendations so many times that I decided to come here and tell you that's not heaven it's the cathedral of Hatred you can see it faintly ingame and knowing the lore if heavens had actually fallen to hell things would be way worse
Fun watch but turned out you where very wrong about it being the silver city, it is the cathedral of hated you litterally see that exat Building when lilith collect her safe passage from asteroth to her fathers realm
Love your content. Had to delete you so youtube suggestions would not spoil me the game story
Rathma was so wasted as a character in Diablo 4. Like seriously, first Generation of the Nephalim, around since the beginning of Sanctuary, son of Lilith and Inarius, founder and possibly greatest of all Necromancers - you find his corpse. That's it.
Does this mean that every human that dies goes to hell???
Raziel's voice actor has a side job being Rathma?
Gotta pay rent somehow when nobody is making any new Legacy of Kain.
2:27
dont know if anyone commented it yet, but this isnt heaven, thats the cathedral of hate where we fight lilith.
Imagine a world war broke out and in the aftermath this became the Bible😂😂
Inarius deep down knows he can never enter heavens gates again but why live the truth when a lie is so much easier to live in after all we nephalim take after him in that.
Also the next installment I believe mephisto will bring Inarius back as his champion which will be interesting to see how the rest of his religion takes to that.
Mephisto is incapable of bringing back an angel. Inarius will come back the the angelic arch in the heavens and the council can’t stop that. Even then if you’ve seen the ending of the game you’d no that Mephisto isn’t capable of much of anything at the moment.
Wait, why did Inarius even want to return to heaven in the first place? Someone please explain.
Because he wants back to his home. Among the angels.
My question is How did Lilith gave birth to Rathma because I just don’t get it, did Lilith met with inarius like Human does or they Made some witchcraft and Rathma Appeared.
Oh crud…😶 the high heavens became heck’s outpost?
He couldn't go back because he got laid. The image shown of the hell version of the high heavens could just be a concept image because that's not what it looked liked in the ending cinematic of D3. If that was the case then were did all the angels go since they don't have the high heavens? That would also there is no balance anymore since hell took over heaven. It all makes sense.
One thing i learned is these Angels really need to up their weapon game. All the villlians just destroy them so easily😂
Actually now if you look at how the cathedral of hatred looks like in the realm of hatred then what we see the concept art isn’t the silver spire so heaven hasn’t become an outpost of hell
I keep wondering if Inarius is meant to scratch that demon corrupted itch they passed on for Imperius
Pretty sure it's the Cathedral of Hatred. Compare left image to the cutscene you see Lilith being ganted passage by Astaroth to the Cathedral in the distance.
Yay!
Edit: staying up late for no reason has brought fruit!
Wasn't rathmas prophecy about mephisto and neyrelle?
Not necessarily.
Ummmm I'm not sure but it might have something to do with him banging the daughter of hatred creating a direct threat to heaven and hell but I'm not sure lol
But both Inarius and Lillith should re-form in the void or the crystal arch (if Inarius was allowed) as they should be powerful enough unless they retconned the lore for angels and demons.
The issue with that for inarius is that once a angel is regenerated their entire persona is altered. He would no longer "be" Inarius but would be a new angel with an entirely different role. Demons get to retain their identifies when they come back.
It is entirely possible to trap or manipulate souls. Whatever Lilith did when she killed him might've trapped his soul within hell. Or it could be from his extended stay down there, and Hell's corrupting influence, and he's too tainted to be allowed back in Heaven. Or the angels really want nothing to do with him, barring his essence from returning to the Arch and he just goes to Hell by default
He already chose not to kill Lillith and instead banish her because she will in time just respawn in hell from the black ooze like all other demons
The real reason? The prime evils and the angelic council both agreed to let them keep inarius to keep the burning hells from taking over sanctuary and the high heavens.
Edit: The picture of the high heavens is mephistos area. He copied it because in diablo 3 thats where diablo died
Instead, it would seem, that Heaven became Hatred's Heart, and the light "piercing it" is but the remnants of the holiness that once were.
I don't see how Heaven could be an outpost of Hell considering all 7 Evils were 'killed' by the end of Diablo 3. Mephisto is still recovering, and I assume Diablo and Baal would be the same. So who would be able to hold the Diamond Gates in Heaven on Hell's orders? No one in Hell except the 7 evils should be able to fight Imperius. Also at the end of Diablo 3 we see Tyrael in Heaven and it looks just fine. So I really doubt Hell has a stronghold in Heaven.
the eternal conflict makes that all of these demons and angels reincarnate. The demons come back as their prior forms and if i'm correct, the angels come back as random angels, but new ones nonetheless.
He had a child with a demon. Not really messed up that he can't return.
There's a bunch of bulls@#t reconning going on with Diablo 4 from Diablo 3. The Necromancer Chest Piece from "Grace of Inarius," Inarius's Conviction, literally says that Inarius knew he wouldn't be welcomed in heaven due to creating Sanctuary. Good Story in D4, obvious plotholes too.
Prophecy is pretty much talking about Tyrael ... Hes the only one that didn't fuck up
Innarius was the anointed cherub of Ezekiel 28. The reason why he was banished from the third heaven was because of the multitude of his iniquities, and his wicked unrepentant treachery against the most high.
He created trade, commerce and trafficking.
The flow of money began with this Ark cherub.
He was given eons of time to repent and make things right.
He thought he had enough power to topple his creator.
How wrong he was, how very wrong this created being was.
Question is whats the next story in d5 and so on
Inarius is like a typical person lacking self-awareness and is completely self-centred, selfish, greedy and egoistic... like an everyday worker who is disliked by all in a company just that few bothered to let him know about it, and all he ever owned and done was largely due to the company's platform and team success but he think that it's all due to him. He then leaves to create his own startup company thinking he's way more talented than everyone else think he is, only to fail in this endeavour and then decides that he deserves to go back to the home company and he'll be welcomed with open arms there
Tbh?
I think people are over-hyping Inarius in their own heads.
He's just insane... Broken...
He's not a fake, he's not possessed.
He's just pathetic, and wallowing in self pity.
You have to understand angels lost a lot of angels, humans 90% of population are dead, all lords of hell are released in hell or sanctuary.
I can tell you why he can’t go back now… unless they put him in a pot and send it
We made a choice, and that, they can never forgive.
Poor Inarius he just wants to go home.
Still, I'm siding with Lilith as soon as I'm given the option 🤷🏻♂️
Inarius didn't knew that once what he called home is now another outpost of Hell. He might have to fight his way back. If he had gone back to Heavens. Because at this point Heaven's also need help and Inarius could do it. But sadly he couldn't make it. Lilith destroyed his plans and him as well.
@@beastmotoz it was never confirmed Heaven is outpost of hell now. Truth being said most of Archangels were alive and Prime Evil was banished - there was cinematic where Heavens were purified from Demonic stain with Diablo defeat.
Who exactly would be strong enough to beat Imperius and other Archangels when all Prime Evils were NOT PRESENT - reforming at best ?
It is clown theory if anything. Hell had no means to take Heavens at this interval betweent D3 and D4 ...
Gates of Heaven may be closed because Imperius ordered so etc. Many reasons. Also from lore/plot point - this is just stupid. It would mean eternal conflict was concluded "off screen" how bad writing it would require to pull this off ?
@@beastmotoz heaven is not a fucking outpost for hell. Do you have any fucking clue as to what would happen if heaven was completely corrupted and all the angels were dead and gone. Hell would run around unchecked and just because rathma closed the doors to hell that wouldn’t stop them at all. Sanctuary would have been destroyed and merely turned into an extension of hell. The heavens are perfectly fine they are simply waiting for more of their angels to resplendent from the crystal arch before doing anything again.
To bad you never get that option
@@evanmcc99 It's weird that you are actually given the option, but your character makes all the choices for you 😢
Inarius got his wings torn off when the Heavens delivered him to hell. They got his eyelids removed so he could witness the horrors and torture.
How Inarius's wings grew back and how did he recover from that?
In addition, how does he even have eyelids tbh, all we can see is the hood.
Greater Healing Potions
Likely the same way that Tyreal "reconstituted" himself after he destroyed the Worldstone at the end of D2. It took about 22 years apparently.
Regular Angels cant do this, but it seems that higher tier Angels can reform themselves. Inarius was pretty high up in the hierarchy and wasn't totally obliterated like Tyreal was. He wasn't an Arch like the Angiris council Angels, but next in line to it. I'm assuming Izual was in the same position in some way.
We all know the reason, he is grinding gear in Sanctuary :p
the real reason is , heaven is gathering its forces , and is waiting for the arrival of 2 newly born angels that are the replacements of mathael and perhaps tyrael , as for lilith i guess she will be the first ever demon to turn into an angel , since we saw angels turning into demons but never the other way around
I doubt tyrael is necessarily dead.
what about anu and tathamet.
Inarius pierced Lilith's belly not her heart that's why he failed. XD
I honestly wish they'd get rid of the angels/heaven and leave that more on the lore side.. Diablo, to me at least, has always been humanity's struggle vs demons/hell.. not heaven vs hell
Inarius was suppose to be the fallen angel, and that is fine to most to say Angels can fall. What is most annoying, is that it looks like they are taking their beliefs from Star wars screwed up interpretation of taoism. and believe that good should balance evil, rather than defeat it. Taoism do not believe in one side is good or evil.
@@slewone4905 bro your just cracked as fuck
Do you even know a single fucking thing about Diablo. Aside from Diablo 3 we have had almost no involvement from heaven. Even then the extent of that involvement was us going to heaven.
Nah, something else is up. If Hell took over Heaven, then the Eternal Conflict would be well and truly over. All the demons would need do at that point is destroy the Crystal Arch, and all of the angels would be destroyed. Maybe some dark, twisted mockery of Heaven or something.
will inarius and lilith be reborn again in the black abyss and crystal arch
Lilith yes but Inarius I'm not sure cause the Crystal Arch is still corrupted so his soul will be trapped inside Hell
@@beastmotoz also where do humans go when they die there when i played d3 theres no human in high heavens is it just oblivion after death?
@@jpfranco8498 High Heaven is only place for Angle so no humans can be there. human souls passed on to an unknown location, beyond both Heaven or Hell. But I think mostly they are sent to hell cause of the Demonic traits in them.
@@beastmotoz shouldve sided with lilith and annahilate them all
@@jpfranco8498 the guy your talking to has no idea what he’s talking about. The crystal arch isn’t corrupted so inarius would come back. The high heavens and burning hells aren’t realms for the deceased to go to. He truly is just making shit up. Humans have demonic and angelic traits in them so to say that they go to hell is stupid. In D3 you quite literally fight an angel of death and go to purgatory where all the souls are. Wether they move on to somewhere else or we don’t know and for anyone to say otherwise means they are making shit up.
He literally hate-f**ked the daughter of hatred.
Coolest angel, at least for a while.
Diablo is the serpent who gave Rathma the prophecy. Diablo wanted Inarius and Lilith to kill each other, or be killed by some hero type. DLC will show us why Diablo wanted this. Because Blizzard knows its a Diablo game, and Diablo will appear in every Diablo game ... at some point.
Let’s jus say that he’s…. Grounded.
Inarius is self consumed. A fallen angel acting of his own accord. He attempted to kill Lillith of his own accord, not for the heavens.
Hes not doing any of this for anything or anyone other than himself. Hes damned.
Because he killed his own son for wanting to just be neutral.
Love the content but didnt your last video possibly reveal that the "Inarius" you see in game might be a fake? So we are still inna grey area to what is real. Just cause this angel looking figure is stating stuff doea not mean it is real.
Could you explain more of what you think between the ghostly figures and the direct talk. Can we confirm they are the same?
Could the ghosts be actual memoroes of inarius and rathma? Vs the angel looking figire be demonic?
Do a video comparision to help us lore hounds dive deeper into the skepticalness we all love.
Amazing video just getting a little confusing. Seems like we are working with different timelines.
Help us dash. Your the help we seek!!! 😊😊
that picture is NOT heaven that is the Hell Cathedral we see in diablo 4...
maybe thats just hell. it looks like heaven but the top of the structure is different. maybe heaven and hell look alike and heaven still looks like heaven just its gate are closed due to fear of losing more casualities in another war.
Surely we will fight Inarius in hell in the dlc.
Stop clickbaiting me with CAPS in your video titles!
The MESSED UP Reason Why Inarius Cannot Return To Heaven... is coz hes dead
The simple reason why Inarius can't return to Heaven is because he clapped Demoness Cheeks.
Maybe Diablo and his brothers have already infiltrated the Heavens. Maybe after defeating the Triune of Evil, we will take on the task of fighting the Heavenly crusade forevermore.
Seeing how you posted this a week ago I’ll just assume you haven’t played the game.
@@evanmcc99 no i haven't unfortunately. Too busy at the moment with real life stuff, but living vicariously through everyone. I understand that Mephisto was "locked up" but maybe their minions were able to infiltrate the heavens, especially with it already having been so weakened in D3. This isn't a stretch. I was also just going off of the OP's statements.
Edit: I do know the ending and what ultimately happens :)