As someone who loves diablo 2 to death, it makes me sad to hear of the canon fate of our heroes, but at the same time I feel glad that they were not just cast away never to be spoken of again, even if their ends were not kind ones. I am a sucker for lore that incorporates characters that I have played as in the past or that I had met in past adventures. It adds so much to the storytelling.
I am a Barb for life in Diablo games, but I rly hope they bring us paladins or crusaders in near future. I like Zakarum lore, and always pick my interest.
We definitely need a shield user in the game. We have the necro but it’s just a stat stick for them. I want to see a couple cool skills for a shield. Easy low hanging fruit is a Captain America shield throw, but it would be sick to see a shield bash that procs holy light behind the bashed target or something. People speculate a “Demon Knight” type class (I think one is in Diablo Immortal) which would make sense for D4. Inarius is in Hell now so maybe some of the knight penitent are such devoted followers of him that they follow him no matter what his alignment is. Or maybe a few who survived the battle but got sealed in Hell have been slowly corrupted, but as players the lore of our character is that we were resilient to the corruption of the realm of hatred but scrapped by using demon armor and weapons until we found a way out or something, but were tainted from the demonic essence. Whatever they do, I hope a new class is a shield user.
I would want to see the Templars for the first time in a Diablo game. Also the shields for Necromancers logically needs Armor. It just makes sense. Regarding rarity armor grades. Give them 50/100 armor for grey shields, 150/200 for blue, 250/300 for yellow, 350/400 for orange, 450/500 for copper etc Ancestral, sacred, special ones can have higher than standard amount of armor etc. Hope sets return and color coded purple
They sort of teased that if they want to add a new class they want it to be one that’s never been in the game, so I guess it won’t be paladin at least for a while sadly… interested to try whatever they add tho
The same way we didn't have a paladin in diablo 3 cause it was replaced by crusader, I would expect a new type of holy martial warriors thar aren't just paladins or crusader
@@EarnestEgregore Honestly the first thing that got on my mind was Knights Penitents. Something like retribution arc, some of them wants to set things right after Inarius fiasco. And we need hero character with holy light, presume they did not lost it after main story. With paladins absence, we are truly without light against primes that would come in future.
When I played Diablo 2 I remember always choosing the Paladin since it was one of the most interesting characters in the series, when they start explaining in diablo 3 that many of the heroes of the last game had perished or dissapear or unknown, I said to myself that I hoped the Paladin atleast had a happy ending, knowing this now brings me sadness and makes me realize that his end was one of those things I wasn`t ready to expect...Either way he was one great character I believe that it tears me apart knowing that he did what he was suppose to do in the end.
Don't let these dudes shit on you for getting emotionally invested in characters and stories. Sure, it's a video game and certainly not real life but as people who take in stories and put ourselves in the character's shoes, it's painful at times.. Rightfully so. Especially in a universe like Diablo. So, keep doing what you're doing and enjoying these stories. It makes us human. Heck, we've been telling stories for a long, long time.
A solid lesson on why not to skip dialogues, notes, written details in ARPGs. What i love most about the channel is that this fellow takes up such details and turns them into a story to behold with the power of a careful narration.
Yeah I just finished this dungeon like 15 minutes ago. And rushed through lots of the notes etc. Wish I had read everything better. But glad I saw this video when I did
Blizzard should hire him. This is better than play the damn side quest. Storytelling on this time of games is pretty bad, only campaign is kind of good.
Yeah, I did a stronghold where the boss summoned some unique monsters. One was called the Annihilator. Clearly Colenzo the Annihilator from wave 1 of the baal throneroom fight. He was just a re-used fallen shaman skin though, same as the rest. Then he summoned one called, "The Unholy" - also from the fourth wave of the baal throneroom fight, Ventar the Unholy. But he was just a re-used balrog skin. In diablo 2 he was green, they could have at least re-colored him to match that. I also recall Colenzo being blue. A simple re-color would have payed proper homage to them via easter egg. They could still fix it easily in future updates though, who knows.
there is a side quest in D4 act 4 to help retrieve lost paladin armor. you find out that the armor belonged to the crusader Johanna (the same one from Heros of the storm). but the name Johanna lives on.
I believe the hair color is different. Given the fact that there’s no barbershop in Sanctuary, I assume this corpse is the apprentice of Johanna who took over the name when “our” Johanna retired and went chillax in Nexus. That would make the current Johanna (the NPC we helped in D4) the “grand-daughter” But given that HotS is a dead game we may as well consider D3 Johanna dead.
@@kopite4434 Not the official crusader, Anajinn is the one from the canon short story. Johana is one that got blooped into the Nexus before the events of DIablo 3.
Indeed, i also would never have imagened that such a tragic would befall one of the Diablo 2 hero's. You can't help but get the feeling that fighting and defeating the (Prime) Evils feels pointless in the end. Since everyone and everything it comes into contact with it tends to become corrupted by it. I wonder now if we we will learn more of what happened to the other hero's of Diablo 2 and also those of Diablo 3.
It's literally pointless fighting them. Lilith has told the heroes of D4 a glimpse of the futility of fighting the evils without her help, everything is bound to fail, even the Haradrims and Tyrael's best efforts are all for nothing.
Well we do know the fate of a few others. The necromancer, Xul is alive and relativelly well around Diablo 3 time and we even encounter one of his aprentices during the story. After D2 he became a master necromancer. The sorceress Isendra trained Li-Ming, the D3 female wizard but was killed before D3 by an assassin while she was on a mission. The assassin.. well this one is unconfirmed but there are rumors that she was the one to kill the sorceress. The barbarian's fate is unknown, but the D3 barbarian was supposed to be the same as the D2 barbarian before the idea was scrapped. The amazon is called Cassia and between D2 and D3 she began training other amazons, eventually earned the title of Warmatron, granted to her by Queen Xaera, the leader of the Askari people (amazons). Still active as of Reaper of Souls. The druid we know nothing about his fate so far. The paladin, well now we know.
Some of the diablo 3 people are known. Lyndon (the rogue merc) runs backwater. Johanna the crusader from d3 also died. There is a quest in zabinzet that has you help her apprentice. I'm sure there will be more references found as the game gets played and blizzard releases more content. Yes the theme of perpetual corruption and eternal conflict is a big one and one that many others tried to stop (e.g. lilith and inarius when they first used the worldstone and created sanctuary, the prime evils when they escaped hell into sanctuary to get more forces and an upper hand, malthael when he tried to kill everyone, lilith now in d4 etc.). I think the moral of the story will be that the eternal conflict will always be present and the "illusion" is that we can somehow stop it... D2 sorc is dead because she shows up in d3:ROS at the end as the "spirit" that the d3 sorc sees as her former master. The other people...most likely died of old age or fighting against evil somewhere kind of like this paladin did (the story is 50 years from d3 to d4..and 20 years between d2 and d3; So 70 years from d2 to d4 and considering most were say 20-40 years of age when they fought they would be centenarians most likely if they survived similar to meshif).
Interesting that all the shield bearer heroes from past Diablo games met their demise D1 - Warrior - Aidan : corrupted by Diablo (revealed in D2) D2 - Paladin - Carthas: corrupted by Mephisto (revealed in D4) D3 - Crusader - Johanna: KIA (revealed in D4)
I grew up watching my uncle play a game on the computer. Constantly using some teleport to sell his dull inventory and having shields or glowing circles around his character. Really interesting to see his fav characters fate all these years later.
I really hope the Paladin class returns in D4. This perfectly sets the stage for a 'civil war' in between the original Zakarum order and the order as it stands today.
A Crusader class would be more fitting. Not quite a paladin but believers in the Zakarum faith and possibly even could be the road to restoring the paladin order down the line.
I'm surprised that he didn't die from summoning too many hammers in D2, and offending the angels and the demons by making them all look completely foolish and trivial at the same time! 😂 Also, love your narrative work! You really do a terrific job introducing these topics and are a great orator! 🗣️💯👍
The notable paladin character from Diablo 2 has finally revealed. So sad he is the only one of the 7 heroes who have fallen to evil hands like Mephisto. That reminds me of Aidan who is also fallen the same fate however a different wrong way by stabbing Diablo's soulstone on his own forehead (while Paladin didn't because he died and become undead).
Thanks for this man. I really wanted to know what happened to this character for so long. I played D4 but didn't notice it is about the Paladin from D2, but noticed the Kite Shield from this scene. ❤️❤️❤️ This is my most favorite class of all. I only did Barbarian in D4 because no Crusader or Paladin available. Even in Immortal I chose Crusader. Haven't played D3 yet though. Truly.....thank you.
If such a devout paladin can still be consumed by hell's influence even after defeating a prime evil, I wonder what became of the other heroes. The necro and amazon were implied to have returned safely after the events of Diablo 2. So it seems that it is quite possible to resist the corruption of the prime evils regardless of how strong their faith in the light is. As per Diablo 3, the necro even took on an apprentice who went on to free trapped souls from demonic influence in a side quest. The amazon went back to her homeland and became a matriarch training other young women in the art of war. Even the sorceress was implied to have survived the corruption of the evils. She was just killed by the assassin of D2 as part of her duty to kill dangerous mages, when one of her spells to end drought, went out of control. But nothing much is known about the other 2 heroes of the final 7 who banded together to defeat Baal. Initially, the barb of D3 was supposed to be the same as the one in D2 but later on, they removed any references of it and insisted that it's another barb. And no one has said anything about the druid too.
It was not confirmed that the assassin who killed the Sorceror was Natalya, as it was not specified. It could have been another assassin, and this could be the reason that Natalya left the assasins.
@@fuevue2913 Yeah it's not a confirmed thing. But I think it makes more sense for Natalya to leave the order because she or the D2 assassin was sent to kill Isendra. Killing mages who cause many deaths is nothing new to the order of assassins. They did send her to watch over Ormus for years even though he still uses his powers to protect the people of Kurast as much as he could. So the reason for leaving the order has to be something Natalya strongly disagreed with. Like sending either herself or her companion in arms in D2 to kill her later. The Wizard in D3 does ask the spirit of Isendra as to the identity of her killer and she does not answer. While for new players, what she said might not be significant, it might be that the one who killed Isendra also knew her well and only Natalya and the D2 assassin fit those categories. Just a theory but it also makes the storylines more interesting. Xul and Cassia are basically "happily ever after" but for all intents and purposes, the D3 barb was the D2 barb based on his responses. So it does follow the dark pattern of ppl who ever encounter the prime evils in that they end up miserable despite their victory over hell!
@@amazingcalvincause the victory is fake. A real victory will successful killing the prime evil. But so far killing is basicly just seal them to soulstone
@@ribertfranhanreagen9821 Well as far as the lore goes, the demons always respawn in hell when you kill them so they are technically immortal. So killing their mortal body of whoever they possessed and breaking the soulstone in hellforge is the best humanity can do anyways.
Druid story ends in diablo immortal, you help him cleanse a tree of corruption, and he sacrifices himself to ensure our victory. Other then meeting the Demon hunter, it was a hype moment for me. Stopped playing shortly after the ladder happened.
I love the fact D4 is incorporating the entire franchise's lore into it. Like in the book of Lorath video series we are pretty much told that if we play the "Warrior", we are playing Aiden, King Leoric's son. There is also a quest line in D4 that explores the entire context, names and genders of the character we see in the original Diablo 4 cinematic. The one where we see how Lilith is summoned into Sanctuary by Elias. Now, that questline blew my god damn mind.
So far then, we have... Paladin= Carthas: Sealed himself with 3 other Paladins in Sankekur's tomb in order to stand vigil over sealing Sankekur's corrupted body, succumbed to corruption but soul laid to rest by player. Sorceress=Isendra: Trained the D3 female wizard (Li Ming), attempted to solve a deadly drought but accidentally ended up killing many instead, and was punished by the Mage Clans who sent the Viz-Jaq'taar to assassinate her. Went down fighting, but eventually met her end. Assassin=Natalya: Possibly might have been the one who assassinated Isendra. Whether she did directly herself or not though, she didn't seem too happy about it as she turned her back to the order afterwards and became a part of (and imo helped found.) the Demon Hunters. Necromancer=Xul: Lived a long life continuing his duty, went on a lot of further adventures. A master of his order now, he trained a few apprentices, one went sour. Otherwise, pretty based af life. Amazon=Cassia: Returned to her people a legend and trained many Amazons in order to bolster their ranks in preparation for if they would ever have to fight the forces of darkness. Became a WarMatron to her people. Also a pretty based life. Unknowns still Barbarian: Unknown fate. Was originally supposed to be the male Barbarian in D3 in early production. Officially that's been dropped, but honestly I still sort of head canon it since he still looks so much like him but just old. I love the idea of the D2 Barb continuing kicking demon ass non stop all the way to his golden years. IF one were to still think of the D3 male Barb as the same man, his prologue suggests that he's been doing just that, wandering the lands seeking anything that can "match" his blades despite his people being displaced. Druid: Unknown. Virtually nothing is known about the "canon" Druid other than he was there at the World Stone. The Druids as a people have certainly had it rough since D3 though.
@@alisaforster28691 Nope there's nothing that confirms Natalya is the player character anywhere. Also its weird to have Natalya talking to herself in Act 3 -- Blizzard's not that dumb. Quote the page number and line from BOC if you please
@@yeeman92 again, it is not canon that the assassin was in act 3. reference is book of cain. the druid and natalya only joined in act 5. 1 sec ill look it up. Edit: page 126, book of cain. "It was then that Baal’s forces laid siege to the bastion. With Tyrael’s aid, my brave comrades who had defeated Diablo and Mephisto arrived at Harrogath amidst the chaos. Over the course of their journey, the heroes’ numbers had grown. One newcomer who had pledged herself to the cause was an assassin of the Viz-Jaq’taar, a secretive order created to hunt down and slay renegade sorcerers. Having foresworn the direct use of magic, the assassin donned exotic weapons and armor imbued with elemental energies. Another newcomer was a druid who traveled far from the fabled woodlands of Scosglen. Prior to meeting this individual, I had read extensively from the ancient druidic tome Scéal Fada and knew much about the druids’ abilities to command the forces of nature and assume the forms of various beasts. The band of heroes did all they could to break Baal’s demonic siege. Their efforts, however, were overshadowed by treachery. Nihlathak, the only Elder to have survived the warding ritual, believed that unless he made a pact with the Lord of Destruction, his people would be doomed."
@@alisaforster28691 Thanks for the reference, just saw it. The page in no way suggests that Natalya was the player assassin -- seems like either way it's just pure speculation unless confirmed explicitly by Blizz like Isendra, Xul etc.
I love it that old Diablo heroes either turn evil and become demons or they just straight-up die it just shows that the new heroes have come to take their place and finish what they started
Outstanding. One of my biggest requests for Diablo 3 and 4 was to learn what happened to the heroes of D2. In D2, we learned what happened to the characters in D1. In D3, we learned what happened to the Sorceress and the Necromancer, and Heroes of the Storm (assuming the lore given is canonical) told us what happened to the Amazon. I always wanted to know what happened to the Paladin, Barbarian, Assassin, and Druid. Now we have that Paladin's fate answered. Now I'd love to know what happened to the other three remaining. In my own head canon, it was the D2 Assassin that slayed the Sorceress, and the Barbarian married Charsi and continued adventuring. The Druid went back to the woods or something, idk. lol
Natalya, the canon assassin eventually turned her back to the order and instead became a Demon Hunter according to her item set in D3. I also think it's strongly implied that she was the one who did Isendra, the Sorceress in finally after a long battle. This is just me connecting the dots, but I don't think it sat right with Natalya which would explain why she left the order. Having seen the real threat the Burning Hells represents, she probably also got fed up with being used for Mage Clan infighting, and rather taught her skills as well as developed new ones with others in order to form a new order specifically trained to kill demons. This isn't canon at all now, (though nothing contradicts it either) but I still sort of like to think of the male D3 Barb as the D2 Barb but just older. And yeah, the Druid just sort of went back to the woods or something.
@@Kiyosuki regarding the barbarian, I agree. Originally that was the plan anyway. And initially it was the male barbarian pushed in all the media but later they put the spotlight on the female barbarian, named Sonya. So we can head canon the male barb all we want. The barb was my main in both D2 and D3 so in my own mind, they were the same guy.
Lore wise the Paladin order no longer exists, they disbanded after the vents of Diablo 2 and some became mercenaries while others joined the Crusaders.
Why is this man not the official narrator? This is prime quality material. We would be all so lucky if this turned into a series! Particularly I never could play Diablo 2, so this has been incredibly USEFUL AND ENTERTAINING. My undying gratitude and respect to this knight and may we see more chapters in the name of the light 🙏🏾
Some of the side quests that are chains have pretty sick stories if you listen to all the extra dialogue and don’t burn through it. I think a trap alot of players fall into is just the mindless “kill this and run around” without paying attention and just want to grind the gear. If you take a step back there’s a lot to appreciate though
@stealthyturtles true. I do read the dialogue and try to immerse with the story. Its what draws me to play diablo since I was a kid. But approaching it like you're actually the character aka role playing gives the story a whole lot more of intensity
Always love these types of videos. I remember when you did Blood Raven. You have come so far! Can’t wait 10 years in Diablo 5 when we find out what happened to the D3 Witch Doctor!
I'm sure that the hope is that D4 is still releasing new content in 7-10 years, rather than a D5 be released. Would be cool to see one in 10-15 years though, depending on where they take D4. Always love the lore. I also can't wait to hear more about the fate of the previous heroes.
This is great. I have been hoping we get to know what happened to the people and places from the past as new content gets released. I just found the ruins of the hidden camp from D3 yesterday, and I love Easter eggs like that.
I gotta say the play by play commentary was funny... liked when he said the terror overcame my body just for a second when he got hit hit by the fear 😂
The one thing i wish is we got more than 5 classes. I love the idea of paladin, amazonian, assassin, shaman. Rouge feels like its multiple classes in 1 imo too
Thanks for this. The Paladin/Crusader are my favorite classes to play, and they're unfortunately not in D4, but I enjoyed coming across this quest in-game and this Lore Dash as well.
I don't usually watch videos like this i was just looking for info to see if paladins are coming on expansions but then i found myself sucked in to the amazing narration. Grear video man that was enjoyable
That was an awesome story of lore !! Am a HUGE fan of the Diablo series and to finally hear what may have happened to our Fallen warrior of the light gives it some closure ...and above all RESPECT! GREAT job!!
I want to know what happened to the Nephalem, the hero of Diablo 3. He was supposed to be a threat in D4. At least it was heavily implied.... yet no sign of him.
Nah, the end of Reaper of Souls was foreshadowing the villain of what was supposed to be the next expansion for Diablo 3, The King in the North. This expansion was cancelled, but the it would have had an enemy Nephalem as the main antagonist. That's why RoS's ending seems weird now, cuz it was setting up a story we'll never see.
@@Shredow2 Still....since "the Nephalem" is close to the original ones and have extended lifespan, what the hell is he doing during all the events of D4?
@@JanusXX Well, Johana is dead. She either died in the swamp or one of her successors died in the swamp meaning she's dead either way. Also, they moved away from there only being one "Nephalem" to being multiple Nephalem(at least 1 per class, maybe 2 if there's one per gender per class) in later stuff so it's probably like the D2 classes now where each Nephalem ended up doing different shit.
Part of me really wanted the Diablo 2 heroes to retire with some semblance of peace, but I guess that's not wholly the Diablo way. First the Sorceress was Assassinated, and now we learn the Paladin was murdered - in a fashion... At least they went out legends, taking out Prime Evils - even if it is only temporarily.
The Amazon became a bad bitch though and is a matriarch of her order now. I think the only one we don’t have any lore on is the Druid, which kinda makes sense for him to return to a more nomadic lifestyle and get lost in the woods
Yea but there are many crusaders named Johanna, they take that name once they reach as certain skill. So you never know if the Johanna in the quest is the one from D3.
@@Sambal86probably isn't, that one died recently and Johanna would have probably been in her 70s if that's supposed to be the D3 one. Quite possible it is her apprentice or something like that however.
@@Sambal86 there is only one johanna for each generation of crusaders. the name is passed on to anyone who inherits the armor of the previous owner of the armor.
So as of now, the heroes of D2 are - Amazon (Cassia? As per Heroes of the Storm) - Barbarian (no idea. Kanai?) - Paladin (Carthas) - Necromancer (Xul) - Sorceress (Isendra) - Druid? - Assassin?
lorewise the assassin is natalya, which you could encounter in Act 3 of D2 pre-expansion. She joined the fight against Baal together with the druid, after the original 5 defeated Diablo.
The Paladin/Crusader are one of my favorite classes in Diablo. Along with Druid, they're my most often played class. I don't understand why Blizzard can't just bring back every class and have to leave off a class every time. Druid was left off in D3. Now Paladin and Monk is not available in D4. Instead of reducing classes, they should be adding more. I'd like a Cleric/Healer, Bard, and Blacksmith classes in Diablo.
Paladin get's too much Cleric stuff, honestly this has been a thing broadly in Blizzard product, when they say Paladin they mean Cleric. Bard might feel a bit odd in a Diablo game, then again it fit's better than Amazon does. Not sure about Blacksmith... An Inventor could work if they kept it low key and didn't get too stupid with it, I am also dissapointed they killed off the new Horadrim Order, as it would be neat to play as a Horadrim, they are described as Mages and Wizards, but also cursaders, I feel like having them be akin to battle mages with a touch of holy magic due to their connection to Tyrial (More something he taught them, than something they draw from him), could be fun. Hell they could have made an interesting stand in for the Paladin in this game. But alas, Lorath must be Deckard Cain 2.0 and that means he must be the last Horadrim. (I know he's not the last Horadrim, yet. But I feel like he will be very soon.)
Kinda glad he doesn’t. In D2 i played by using a conversadin with a 300% reflect damage thorn aura. I would hate running into reflect damage aura like that in diablo these days.
Good observation, but (*SPOILERS*) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Astaroth featured in diablo 4 also gets spiked on a forehead, and he's a lieutenant of Mephisto
I didnt want to play this because the Paladin was removed but knowing how important Mephisto is in this installment, perhaps the Pld will return in an expansion, like how Druid and Assassin were added in D2
I hope for a blood knight type character like has been hinted. I’d live on a character like that. I loved ShadowKnight in EQ, DeathKnight in WoW, I’d play the hell out of a similar character in D4.
Wow this so cool. I really love quests and pieces of the story that tell "what happened to...." one of the previous chars. Please do more!!! Great work, thank you!
Thank you so much for all your content man! I used to feel so alone in the fact that I dive DEEEEP into the lore of these games. Then I found your channel!! I pop them on as I'm working and just slip into the world of sanctuary!
The fate of the 7 heroes of Diablo 2 is one of the most mysterious in the Diablo lore, we know nothing about what happened to them until the released of Diablo 3 and its expansion pack. However only the Necromancer, Amazon and the Sorceress were revealed their names and their ultimate fate.
At about 12:12 the Book of Lorath says that we won't know for certain what kind of man Sankekur was before Mephisto possessed him, but the manual of Diablo II provides a small clue in the document "Custodians of Hatred" from "Ex Libris Horadrim." In a letter to the Archbishop Lazarus, Sankekur talks about how he had tasked Lazarus with guarding Mephisto's Soulstone, and his concerns about the toll on Lazarus' sanity as a result of that task. Could Sankekur have written that letter after being possessed by Mephisto? Possibly, but probably not; Sankekur didn't need anyone to guard Mephisto's Soulstone after it was shattered and its largest shard was impaled into his hand. I wonder if the Archbishop Lazarus shattered Mephisto's Soulstone himself, just like he would later shatter Diablo's Soulstone.
@@mackparker9064 Yes, all of the soulstones were broken into smaller pieces by the time of Diablo II. Baal's soulstone was broken even before he was trapped; that's why Tal Rasha had to sacrifice himself by impaling the largest of the shards into his heart. Mephisto's and Diablo's soulstones were intact when they were trapped, but the Archbishop Lazarus found Diablo's Soulstone beneath the cathedral in Tristram and broke it, leading to the events of Diablo I; what he jammed into Albrecht's head was the largest of the shards. Similarly, Mephisto's soulstone was broken, and Sankekur was impaled with the largest of the shards. (The other Travincal Council Members were impaled with the smaller shards.)
@@mackparker9064 The Diablo II manual (Diablo and Baal) and Classic Battlenet (Mephisto). Apparently the RUclips algorithm deletes my posts if I get more specific.
I saw these inscriptions the other day in the game and I had a strong hunch Carthas was the Paladin from D2 as he's the only Paladin I know who could have killed Mephisto canonically.
I’ve watched *days* worth of content about Diablo lore, I still have no idea what’s going on, but oh man is it cool lookin 😊 Still waiting on Diablo guy to do the “Diablo Time” thing tho
About a different quest and character.. when I found Lyndon in backwater and figured that he had an actual quest chain and story, I got giggidy 😂 most of the side missons are time wasting fluff but some like with Lyndon and the one where we re-trace the steps of Eliasand the three are actually really good if you care about the stories and lore..
I liked the one where you did a bunch of exorcisms in kyovashad with the priestess. The one where you help the bar tender guy, I forgot his name, but he ends up being a bandit who left because he didn’t agree with his bands actions following Asteroths destruction was really cool too.
Wow. Carthas (D2 pally) really just a generic rare mob level boss in a side quest? Big L. He just swings his sword, summons basic adds, and repeats standard rare mob fear pentas. I was hoping for like an Unholy Fire/Freeze/Shock aura stack, or maybe an corrupted Fist of the Heavens, blessed hammer, or even a charge+zeal rush attack. Holy crap Blizz missed the mark on this iconic character's last brawl. The whole encounter design is more tragic than the writing and atmosphere. F*** you Activision/Blizz. :( RIP D2 Pally, we will never get a paladin class ever again and they had to pull one last disrespect.
Fantastic find with amazing context added from the book of Lorath! It seems obvious that the next chapter will feature mephisto prominently with perhaps the corruption of Neyrelle....I suppose her plan to go west is to try and do what these paladins did....Isolation and containment. Great content! Keep it coming!
Very dramatic. Good job! I didn't think much of the side characters as I've played, with the exception of the Horadrim. I listened to Deckard Cain a lot throughout the series. So I am eager to hear about other Horadric mages. Your story gave me pause to consider what happened to other factions.
I want to know what happened to Johanna, in D4, they show that Crusader's take the name of their masters after they die, and there is a side quest where you find another crusader who is looking for her master, and it ends up being another crusader named Johanna, but not the one from D3, so I want to know what happened to the original one :(
Whats most amazing about this side quest is how they brought back the original voice actor of the Diablo 2 Paladin to record his dialogue.
Agree! He nailed it, too
Respect to Blizzard for staying true to the character they could have easily gotten anyone else to voice him
Whats most amazing is that people still play this shit
As someone who loves diablo 2 to death, it makes me sad to hear of the canon fate of our heroes, but at the same time I feel glad that they were not just cast away never to be spoken of again, even if their ends were not kind ones. I am a sucker for lore that incorporates characters that I have played as in the past or that I had met in past adventures. It adds so much to the storytelling.
I mean we kinda already knew that from Diablo 1. We kill all those heroes from Diablo 1 in Diablo 2.
Just the fates of the Diablo series heroes.
Well they are canonically cast out and thrown away lmao
At this point they should have just left it as the heroes from d2 dying when mt arreat imploded
I get your point, I am glad we get an ending to their storylines.
I am still :0 about Meshif.
I am a Barb for life in Diablo games, but I rly hope they bring us paladins or crusaders in near future. I like Zakarum lore, and always pick my interest.
We definitely need a shield user in the game. We have the necro but it’s just a stat stick for them. I want to see a couple cool skills for a shield. Easy low hanging fruit is a Captain America shield throw, but it would be sick to see a shield bash that procs holy light behind the bashed target or something.
People speculate a “Demon Knight” type class (I think one is in Diablo Immortal) which would make sense for D4. Inarius is in Hell now so maybe some of the knight penitent are such devoted followers of him that they follow him no matter what his alignment is. Or maybe a few who survived the battle but got sealed in Hell have been slowly corrupted, but as players the lore of our character is that we were resilient to the corruption of the realm of hatred but scrapped by using demon armor and weapons until we found a way out or something, but were tainted from the demonic essence.
Whatever they do, I hope a new class is a shield user.
I would want to see the Templars for the first time in a Diablo game. Also the shields for Necromancers logically needs Armor. It just makes sense. Regarding rarity armor grades. Give them 50/100 armor for grey shields, 150/200 for blue, 250/300 for yellow, 350/400 for orange, 450/500 for copper etc Ancestral, sacred, special ones can have higher than standard amount of armor etc. Hope sets return and color coded purple
They sort of teased that if they want to add a new class they want it to be one that’s never been in the game, so I guess it won’t be paladin at least for a while sadly… interested to try whatever they add tho
The same way we didn't have a paladin in diablo 3 cause it was replaced by crusader, I would expect a new type of holy martial warriors thar aren't just paladins or crusader
@@EarnestEgregore Honestly the first thing that got on my mind was Knights Penitents. Something like retribution arc, some of them wants to set things right after Inarius fiasco. And we need hero character with holy light, presume they did not lost it after main story. With paladins absence, we are truly without light against primes that would come in future.
When I played Diablo 2 I remember always choosing the Paladin since it was one of the most interesting characters in the series, when they start explaining in diablo 3 that many of the heroes of the last game had perished or dissapear or unknown, I said to myself that I hoped the Paladin atleast had a happy ending, knowing this now brings me sadness and makes me realize that his end was one of those things I wasn`t ready to expect...Either way he was one great character I believe that it tears me apart knowing that he did what he was suppose to do in the end.
It is just a video game dude. He did not exist in real life.
It's just pretend.
Oh my goodness, for real? You're so intelligent, it's almost like you're incapable of understanding nuance.
In my eyes this is a happy ending, few are the people that get to rest in peace after death, Carthas is one of them.
Don't let these dudes shit on you for getting emotionally invested in characters and stories. Sure, it's a video game and certainly not real life but as people who take in stories and put ourselves in the character's shoes, it's painful at times.. Rightfully so. Especially in a universe like Diablo. So, keep doing what you're doing and enjoying these stories. It makes us human. Heck, we've been telling stories for a long, long time.
A solid lesson on why not to skip dialogues, notes, written details in ARPGs. What i love most about the channel is that this fellow takes up such details and turns them into a story to behold with the power of a careful narration.
Yeah I just finished this dungeon like 15 minutes ago. And rushed through lots of the notes etc. Wish I had read everything better. But glad I saw this video when I did
Or i can just watch this channel for all the good stuff. Because without his narration it's not as good.
only if i care about this.
It amazes me how just recording things literally put into game makes for a good content... Like if people couldn't play the game themselves?
Nobody cares that you watch cutscenes 😂
Carthas really has been fighting his own hatred even in death. A noble paladin to the very end despite the Zakarum faith corrupted by Mephisto.
This is some next level role play storytelling.
Facts
Watch his older stuff. It's all pretty good.
Blizzard should hire him. This is better than play the damn side quest. Storytelling on this time of games is pretty bad, only campaign is kind of good.
He's a master at this style. It's "his" style; one might even say. RL Deckard Cain 😆 😆
@@bustyjoe he is the same with Nobbel87 with WoW, using actual gameplay while telling the lore
Crazy. Its a bit unfortunate they reuse these wraith models for such great lore.
Yeah, I did a stronghold where the boss summoned some unique monsters. One was called the Annihilator. Clearly Colenzo the Annihilator from wave 1 of the baal throneroom fight. He was just a re-used fallen shaman skin though, same as the rest. Then he summoned one called, "The Unholy" - also from the fourth wave of the baal throneroom fight, Ventar the Unholy. But he was just a re-used balrog skin. In diablo 2 he was green, they could have at least re-colored him to match that. I also recall Colenzo being blue. A simple re-color would have payed proper homage to them via easter egg. They could still fix it easily in future updates though, who knows.
Kinda fitting, reused models for a reused plot.
@@Franpowahfor reused gameplay
@@marcJoel An arpg that reuses gameplay? No way!
At least they had an unique, accurate model of his original Diablo II design when you find his corpse, down to the iconic kite shield.
I wish the hammer had +2 to holy hammer and a concentration aura if you equipped it. That would’ve been awesome
there is a side quest in D4 act 4 to help retrieve lost paladin armor. you find out that the armor belonged to the crusader Johanna (the same one from Heros of the storm). but the name Johanna lives on.
I think Johanna is basically a title that gets passed down
I believe the hair color is different. Given the fact that there’s no barbershop in Sanctuary, I assume this corpse is the apprentice of Johanna who took over the name when “our” Johanna retired and went chillax in Nexus. That would make the current Johanna (the NPC we helped in D4) the “grand-daughter”
But given that HotS is a dead game we may as well consider D3 Johanna dead.
Johanna is from HotS but she is there because she belongs to another game as all the rest of the Heroes. She was the official D3 Crusader
so Female Crusader in D3 is canon
@@kopite4434
Not the official crusader, Anajinn is the one from the canon short story. Johana is one that got blooped into the Nexus before the events of DIablo 3.
Indeed, i also would never have imagened that such a tragic would befall one of the Diablo 2 hero's. You can't help but get the feeling that fighting and defeating the (Prime) Evils feels pointless in the end. Since everyone and everything it comes into contact with it tends to become corrupted by it. I wonder now if we we will learn more of what happened to the other hero's of Diablo 2 and also those of Diablo 3.
It's literally pointless fighting them. Lilith has told the heroes of D4 a glimpse of the futility of fighting the evils without her help, everything is bound to fail, even the Haradrims and Tyrael's best efforts are all for nothing.
I have exactly same conclusions. Every hero who defeated Prime becomes corrupted.
I'm not surprised after what happened to some of the heroes from Diablo 1 :P
Well we do know the fate of a few others.
The necromancer, Xul is alive and relativelly well around Diablo 3 time and we even encounter one of his aprentices during the story. After D2 he became a master necromancer.
The sorceress Isendra trained Li-Ming, the D3 female wizard but was killed before D3 by an assassin while she was on a mission.
The assassin.. well this one is unconfirmed but there are rumors that she was the one to kill the sorceress.
The barbarian's fate is unknown, but the D3 barbarian was supposed to be the same as the D2 barbarian before the idea was scrapped.
The amazon is called Cassia and between D2 and D3 she began training other amazons, eventually earned the title of Warmatron, granted to her by Queen Xaera, the leader of the Askari people (amazons). Still active as of Reaper of Souls.
The druid we know nothing about his fate so far.
The paladin, well now we know.
Some of the diablo 3 people are known. Lyndon (the rogue merc) runs backwater. Johanna the crusader from d3 also died. There is a quest in zabinzet that has you help her apprentice. I'm sure there will be more references found as the game gets played and blizzard releases more content.
Yes the theme of perpetual corruption and eternal conflict is a big one and one that many others tried to stop (e.g. lilith and inarius when they first used the worldstone and created sanctuary, the prime evils when they escaped hell into sanctuary to get more forces and an upper hand, malthael when he tried to kill everyone, lilith now in d4 etc.). I think the moral of the story will be that the eternal conflict will always be present and the "illusion" is that we can somehow stop it...
D2 sorc is dead because she shows up in d3:ROS at the end as the "spirit" that the d3 sorc sees as her former master. The other people...most likely died of old age or fighting against evil somewhere kind of like this paladin did (the story is 50 years from d3 to d4..and 20 years between d2 and d3; So 70 years from d2 to d4 and considering most were say 20-40 years of age when they fought they would be centenarians most likely if they survived similar to meshif).
No hammers spinning around, no charge spamming to desync, no smite. Yikes what a wasted opportunity.
I love the way you smoothly and seamlessly weave the game elements (items, battles spells, etc) into the story you are telling.
Interesting that all the shield bearer heroes from past Diablo games met their demise
D1 - Warrior - Aidan : corrupted by Diablo (revealed in D2)
D2 - Paladin - Carthas: corrupted by Mephisto (revealed in D4)
D3 - Crusader - Johanna: KIA (revealed in D4)
Even the knights & followers of Inarius met their end in D4
The sorc hero from D1 was corrupted in D2 as the Summoner too
And the rogue hero from D1 Moreina became Blood Raven from D2 after she fell to corruption after the events of D1
Boy this is sad
All the player's action is meaningless
@@CBRN-115Well thats the question. Isn't it? Is there meaning in the act of fighting evil or since evil will win anyways is it worthless to even try?
I grew up watching my uncle play a game on the computer. Constantly using some teleport to sell his dull inventory and having shields or glowing circles around his character.
Really interesting to see his fav characters fate all these years later.
Damn you too young 😅
I'm pretty sure his fate is still running baal and mephisto around 1000 /wk
I really hope a Paladin will be playable in the expansion
next expansion is a holy iranian bishop
Yeah that would 100% hook me back in haha
@@euowol nope, to no surprise they created some stupid “edgy” blood knight…
I really hope the Paladin class returns in D4. This perfectly sets the stage for a 'civil war' in between the original Zakarum order and the order as it stands today.
Tell me more
I’d think it would be a crusader or neo Templar if Kormac got enough of them to accept the truth and remake a new order free of corruption
Theres no Zakarum order anymore. But theres some splinter groups with kinda different philosophy, but they are paladins.
A Crusader class would be more fitting. Not quite a paladin but believers in the Zakarum faith and possibly even could be the road to restoring the paladin order down the line.
I'm surprised that he didn't die from summoning too many hammers in D2, and offending the angels and the demons by making them all look completely foolish and trivial at the same time! 😂
Also, love your narrative work! You really do a terrific job introducing these topics and are a great orator! 🗣️💯👍
Also, just because it says, "Mace" or "Hammer"... if I learned anything from D2, please promise me you'll be careful socketing it! 😂😬😅
The notable paladin character from Diablo 2 has finally revealed. So sad he is the only one of the 7 heroes who have fallen to evil hands like Mephisto. That reminds me of Aidan who is also fallen the same fate however a different wrong way by stabbing Diablo's soulstone on his own forehead (while Paladin didn't because he died and become undead).
Thanks for this man. I really wanted to know what happened to this character for so long. I played D4 but didn't notice it is about the Paladin from D2, but noticed the Kite Shield from this scene.
❤️❤️❤️
This is my most favorite class of all. I only did Barbarian in D4 because no Crusader or Paladin available. Even in Immortal I chose Crusader. Haven't played D3 yet though.
Truly.....thank you.
If such a devout paladin can still be consumed by hell's influence even after defeating a prime evil, I wonder what became of the other heroes. The necro and amazon were implied to have returned safely after the events of Diablo 2. So it seems that it is quite possible to resist the corruption of the prime evils regardless of how strong their faith in the light is. As per Diablo 3, the necro even took on an apprentice who went on to free trapped souls from demonic influence in a side quest. The amazon went back to her homeland and became a matriarch training other young women in the art of war. Even the sorceress was implied to have survived the corruption of the evils. She was just killed by the assassin of D2 as part of her duty to kill dangerous mages, when one of her spells to end drought, went out of control. But nothing much is known about the other 2 heroes of the final 7 who banded together to defeat Baal. Initially, the barb of D3 was supposed to be the same as the one in D2 but later on, they removed any references of it and insisted that it's another barb. And no one has said anything about the druid too.
It was not confirmed that the assassin who killed the Sorceror was Natalya, as it was not specified. It could have been another assassin, and this could be the reason that Natalya left the assasins.
@@fuevue2913 Yeah it's not a confirmed thing. But I think it makes more sense for Natalya to leave the order because she or the D2 assassin was sent to kill Isendra. Killing mages who cause many deaths is nothing new to the order of assassins. They did send her to watch over Ormus for years even though he still uses his powers to protect the people of Kurast as much as he could. So the reason for leaving the order has to be something Natalya strongly disagreed with. Like sending either herself or her companion in arms in D2 to kill her later. The Wizard in D3 does ask the spirit of Isendra as to the identity of her killer and she does not answer. While for new players, what she said might not be significant, it might be that the one who killed Isendra also knew her well and only Natalya and the D2 assassin fit those categories. Just a theory but it also makes the storylines more interesting. Xul and Cassia are basically "happily ever after" but for all intents and purposes, the D3 barb was the D2 barb based on his responses. So it does follow the dark pattern of ppl who ever encounter the prime evils in that they end up miserable despite their victory over hell!
@@amazingcalvincause the victory is fake. A real victory will successful killing the prime evil. But so far killing is basicly just seal them to soulstone
@@ribertfranhanreagen9821 Well as far as the lore goes, the demons always respawn in hell when you kill them so they are technically immortal. So killing their mortal body of whoever they possessed and breaking the soulstone in hellforge is the best humanity can do anyways.
Druid story ends in diablo immortal, you help him cleanse a tree of corruption, and he sacrifices himself to ensure our victory. Other then meeting the Demon hunter, it was a hype moment for me. Stopped playing shortly after the ladder happened.
I love the fact D4 is incorporating the entire franchise's lore into it. Like in the book of Lorath video series we are pretty much told that if we play the "Warrior", we are playing Aiden, King Leoric's son.
There is also a quest line in D4 that explores the entire context, names and genders of the character we see in the original Diablo 4 cinematic. The one where we see how Lilith is summoned into Sanctuary by Elias. Now, that questline blew my god damn mind.
So far then, we have...
Paladin= Carthas: Sealed himself with 3 other Paladins in Sankekur's tomb in order to stand vigil over sealing Sankekur's corrupted body, succumbed to corruption but soul laid to rest by player.
Sorceress=Isendra: Trained the D3 female wizard (Li Ming), attempted to solve a deadly drought but accidentally ended up killing many instead, and was punished by the Mage Clans who sent the Viz-Jaq'taar to assassinate her. Went down fighting, but eventually met her end.
Assassin=Natalya: Possibly might have been the one who assassinated Isendra. Whether she did directly herself or not though, she didn't seem too happy about it as she turned her back to the order afterwards and became a part of (and imo helped found.) the Demon Hunters.
Necromancer=Xul: Lived a long life continuing his duty, went on a lot of further adventures. A master of his order now, he trained a few apprentices, one went sour. Otherwise, pretty based af life.
Amazon=Cassia: Returned to her people a legend and trained many Amazons in order to bolster their ranks in preparation for if they would ever have to fight the forces of darkness. Became a WarMatron to her people. Also a pretty based life.
Unknowns still
Barbarian: Unknown fate. Was originally supposed to be the male Barbarian in D3 in early production. Officially that's been dropped, but honestly I still sort of head canon it since he still looks so much like him but just old. I love the idea of the D2 Barb continuing kicking demon ass non stop all the way to his golden years. IF one were to still think of the D3 male Barb as the same man, his prologue suggests that he's been doing just that, wandering the lands seeking anything that can "match" his blades despite his people being displaced.
Druid: Unknown. Virtually nothing is known about the "canon" Druid other than he was there at the World Stone. The Druids as a people have certainly had it rough since D3 though.
Natalya and player Assassin are completely different people. You see Natalya in D2 Act 3
@@yeeman92 canon assassin only joins in act 5 with druid. noob. book of cain is the source
@@alisaforster28691 Nope there's nothing that confirms Natalya is the player character anywhere. Also its weird to have Natalya talking to herself in Act 3 -- Blizzard's not that dumb. Quote the page number and line from BOC if you please
@@yeeman92 again, it is not canon that the assassin was in act 3. reference is book of cain. the druid and natalya only joined in act 5. 1 sec ill look it up.
Edit: page 126, book of cain.
"It was then that Baal’s forces laid siege to the bastion. With Tyrael’s aid, my brave comrades
who had defeated Diablo and Mephisto arrived at Harrogath amidst the chaos.
Over the course of their journey, the heroes’ numbers had grown. One newcomer who had
pledged herself to the cause was an assassin of the Viz-Jaq’taar, a secretive order created
to hunt down and slay renegade sorcerers. Having foresworn the direct use of magic, the
assassin donned exotic weapons and armor imbued with elemental energies.
Another newcomer was a druid who traveled far from the fabled woodlands of Scosglen.
Prior to meeting this individual, I had read extensively from the ancient druidic tome
Scéal Fada and knew much about the druids’ abilities to command the forces of nature
and assume the forms of various beasts.
The band of heroes did all they could to break Baal’s demonic siege. Their efforts, however,
were overshadowed by treachery. Nihlathak, the only Elder to have survived the warding
ritual, believed that unless he made a pact with the Lord of Destruction, his people would
be doomed."
@@alisaforster28691 Thanks for the reference, just saw it. The page in no way suggests that Natalya was the player assassin -- seems like either way it's just pure speculation unless confirmed explicitly by Blizz like Isendra, Xul etc.
I love it that old Diablo heroes either turn evil and become demons or they just straight-up die it just shows that the new heroes have come to take their place and finish what they started
Outstanding. One of my biggest requests for Diablo 3 and 4 was to learn what happened to the heroes of D2. In D2, we learned what happened to the characters in D1. In D3, we learned what happened to the Sorceress and the Necromancer, and Heroes of the Storm (assuming the lore given is canonical) told us what happened to the Amazon. I always wanted to know what happened to the Paladin, Barbarian, Assassin, and Druid. Now we have that Paladin's fate answered. Now I'd love to know what happened to the other three remaining. In my own head canon, it was the D2 Assassin that slayed the Sorceress, and the Barbarian married Charsi and continued adventuring. The Druid went back to the woods or something, idk. lol
Natalya, the canon assassin eventually turned her back to the order and instead became a Demon Hunter according to her item set in D3. I also think it's strongly implied that she was the one who did Isendra, the Sorceress in finally after a long battle. This is just me connecting the dots, but I don't think it sat right with Natalya which would explain why she left the order. Having seen the real threat the Burning Hells represents, she probably also got fed up with being used for Mage Clan infighting, and rather taught her skills as well as developed new ones with others in order to form a new order specifically trained to kill demons.
This isn't canon at all now, (though nothing contradicts it either) but I still sort of like to think of the male D3 Barb as the D2 Barb but just older. And yeah, the Druid just sort of went back to the woods or something.
@@Kiyosuki regarding the barbarian, I agree. Originally that was the plan anyway. And initially it was the male barbarian pushed in all the media but later they put the spotlight on the female barbarian, named Sonya. So we can head canon the male barb all we want. The barb was my main in both D2 and D3 so in my own mind, they were the same guy.
The Carthas' hammer is really Schaeffer's hammer, which is named after one of the original developers from Blizzard North.
You know, Necromancer and Paladin were my mains back in the day in Diablo I-II; I would really love to see the Paladin class come back.
You couldn't be a Paladin or Necro in Diablo 1.
@@SomethingScottyto be fair, he did say Diablo 1 and 2 😅
@@Gunship888 And to be fair, neither of those classes are in Diablo 1. So what the fuck is your point, contrarian?
Lore wise the Paladin order no longer exists, they disbanded after the vents of Diablo 2 and some became mercenaries while others joined the Crusaders.
@kd9749 most of them joined wetsmarch armies.
Why is this man not the official narrator? This is prime quality material. We would be all so lucky if this turned into a series! Particularly I never could play Diablo 2, so this has been incredibly USEFUL AND ENTERTAINING. My undying gratitude and respect to this knight and may we see more chapters in the name of the light 🙏🏾
I especially love that he mimics the voice of the D1 narrator
Your role-playing enhanced this storytelling. Amazing. You earned my sub. Makes me want to play the game a bit more differently now
Some of the side quests that are chains have pretty sick stories if you listen to all the extra dialogue and don’t burn through it. I think a trap alot of players fall into is just the mindless “kill this and run around” without paying attention and just want to grind the gear. If you take a step back there’s a lot to appreciate though
@stealthyturtles true. I do read the dialogue and try to immerse with the story. Its what draws me to play diablo since I was a kid. But approaching it like you're actually the character aka role playing gives the story a whole lot more of intensity
I always wondered what happened to the Paladin from D2, now I know, thanks for the lore video
Always love these types of videos. I remember when you did Blood Raven. You have come so far!
Can’t wait 10 years in Diablo 5 when we find out what happened to the D3 Witch Doctor!
I'm sure that the hope is that D4 is still releasing new content in 7-10 years, rather than a D5 be released. Would be cool to see one in 10-15 years though, depending on where they take D4.
Always love the lore. I also can't wait to hear more about the fate of the previous heroes.
This is great. I have been hoping we get to know what happened to the people and places from the past as new content gets released. I just found the ruins of the hidden camp from D3 yesterday, and I love Easter eggs like that.
I gotta say the play by play commentary was funny... liked when he said the terror overcame my body just for a second when he got hit hit by the fear 😂
The way I see it it’s the only real end Carthas could of had. None of the Diablo heroes strike me as the ‘retirement’ type.
13 years later..and they finally identify the holy brother without a Holy Knight class in game. Smh.
The one thing i wish is we got more than 5 classes. I love the idea of paladin, amazonian, assassin, shaman. Rouge feels like its multiple classes in 1 imo too
They'll definitely add some of those back in coming seasons.
It is, the ROGUE is a combination of amazon and assassin. There is only 5 classes on release, just like diablo 2, there was only 5 classes on release.
Well done,I personally enjoy getting invested in the side quests and lore they put a lot more work into them than I expected.
Rest in peace, Paladin from D2
I hope this means the Paladin returns in DLC!
It’s only a matter of time.
It has to! Paladin is so iconic
What a fantastic way of telling the story of Carthas using gameplay. Love it!
Thanks for this.
The Paladin/Crusader are my favorite classes to play, and they're unfortunately not in D4, but I enjoyed coming across this quest in-game and this Lore Dash as well.
I loved this quest. Made me look forward to doing it with a holy warrior. I really want a crusader/paladin.
I don't usually watch videos like this i was just looking for info to see if paladins are coming on expansions but then i found myself sucked in to the amazing narration. Grear video man that was enjoyable
Dude, I love how you make your fight a part of the story. Great touch.
That was an awesome story of lore !! Am a HUGE fan of the Diablo series and to finally hear what may have happened to our Fallen warrior of the light gives it some closure ...and above all RESPECT! GREAT job!!
This is amazing! I love how you use gameplay and story into this video. I cannot wait to watch these all day while i work!!
DUDE!! the way you narrate the game makes it 1000% better
I want to know what happened to the Nephalem, the hero of Diablo 3. He was supposed to be a threat in D4. At least it was heavily implied.... yet no sign of him.
Nah, the end of Reaper of Souls was foreshadowing the villain of what was supposed to be the next expansion for Diablo 3, The King in the North. This expansion was cancelled, but the it would have had an enemy Nephalem as the main antagonist. That's why RoS's ending seems weird now, cuz it was setting up a story we'll never see.
@@Shredow2 Still....since "the Nephalem" is close to the original ones and have extended lifespan, what the hell is he doing during all the events of D4?
@@JanusXXthey fucked off with Tyreal. Lorath tells you this.
@@wrydrune remember them saying tyrael up and left but I didn’t remember anything about the Nephalem
@@JanusXX Well, Johana is dead. She either died in the swamp or one of her successors died in the swamp meaning she's dead either way. Also, they moved away from there only being one "Nephalem" to being multiple Nephalem(at least 1 per class, maybe 2 if there's one per gender per class) in later stuff so it's probably like the D2 classes now where each Nephalem ended up doing different shit.
I have said this before, but dear god, I love your narration voice! I could listen to your videos all day
I love that you included you own thematic story telling, well done.
Part of me really wanted the Diablo 2 heroes to retire with some semblance of peace, but I guess that's not wholly the Diablo way.
First the Sorceress was Assassinated, and now we learn the Paladin was murdered - in a fashion...
At least they went out legends, taking out Prime Evils - even if it is only temporarily.
The Amazon became a bad bitch though and is a matriarch of her order now. I think the only one we don’t have any lore on is the Druid, which kinda makes sense for him to return to a more nomadic lifestyle and get lost in the woods
D4 also has a side quest that covers what happened to Johanna the Crusader after the events of D3.
Yea but there are many crusaders named Johanna, they take that name once they reach as certain skill. So you never know if the Johanna in the quest is the one from D3.
@@Sambal86probably isn't, that one died recently and Johanna would have probably been in her 70s if that's supposed to be the D3 one. Quite possible it is her apprentice or something like that however.
@@Sambal86 there is only one johanna for each generation of crusaders. the name is passed on to anyone who inherits the armor of the previous owner of the armor.
So as of now, the heroes of D2 are
- Amazon (Cassia? As per Heroes of the Storm)
- Barbarian (no idea. Kanai?)
- Paladin (Carthas)
- Necromancer (Xul)
- Sorceress (Isendra)
- Druid?
- Assassin?
lorewise the assassin is natalya, which you could encounter in Act 3 of D2 pre-expansion.
She joined the fight against Baal together with the druid, after the original 5 defeated Diablo.
Masterfully done brother. Diablo 4 side quests and main campaign is a huge upgrade to the previous diablo games in terms of lore presentations.
Oh thanks to give the background of that quest. I did it and was not sure about the connections.
The Paladin/Crusader are one of my favorite classes in Diablo. Along with Druid, they're my most often played class. I don't understand why Blizzard can't just bring back every class and have to leave off a class every time. Druid was left off in D3. Now Paladin and Monk is not available in D4.
Instead of reducing classes, they should be adding more. I'd like a Cleric/Healer, Bard, and Blacksmith classes in Diablo.
Paladin get's too much Cleric stuff, honestly this has been a thing broadly in Blizzard product, when they say Paladin they mean Cleric. Bard might feel a bit odd in a Diablo game, then again it fit's better than Amazon does. Not sure about Blacksmith...
An Inventor could work if they kept it low key and didn't get too stupid with it, I am also dissapointed they killed off the new Horadrim Order, as it would be neat to play as a Horadrim, they are described as Mages and Wizards, but also cursaders, I feel like having them be akin to battle mages with a touch of holy magic due to their connection to Tyrial (More something he taught them, than something they draw from him), could be fun. Hell they could have made an interesting stand in for the Paladin in this game. But alas, Lorath must be Deckard Cain 2.0 and that means he must be the last Horadrim. (I know he's not the last Horadrim, yet. But I feel like he will be very soon.)
This was amazing! Your voice, word choices and in-depth description was captivating! A+++
There's no way they won't add a Paladin / Crusader at some point, you know it's coming
Holy shit I JUST did this quest the other day. The love and care that have gone into this game is really something.
Damnit i miss my Paladin. My other main being Necro i have little to complain with Diablo IV but still the miss of the Paladin is a sore point.
Waited to play d4 to watch your stuff. About to be open season again. No one does it better. Thank you as always!!!
I found out 2 days ago, and wondered when you'd make this video. I wept, cause Paladin was my main from Diablo II 😭😭😭
Great video man. Epic role playing. I can't watch the whole video. I still have explore this place myself lol😅
I dont want any type of a death knight. I want a paladin. They better give it to us.
what a nice voice you got. listening to you feels like listening to an audio book. very entertaining, thank you!
Wouldn't it be cool if the boss can spam Blessed Hammers or even has a familiar Aura? Such a missed opportunity right here. Great lore though.
That moment when your resistances go into the negatives and the enemy is lightning enchanted.
Kinda glad he doesn’t. In D2 i played by using a conversadin with a 300% reflect damage thorn aura. I would hate running into reflect damage aura like that in diablo these days.
About their soulstones...
Diablo - Forehead (Crimson)
Baal - Heart/Chest (Amber)
Mephisto - Hands (Sapphire)
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Astaroth featured in diablo 4 also gets spiked on a forehead, and he's a lieutenant of Mephisto
if paladin is wiped they could use Dread Knights as the next class they were one of the underrated factions that were never explored on diablo lore.
Thanks for showing these stories, I find them hard to understand sometimes with my learning disability. ❤
Thanks for telling all that lore! I wouldn't have found it since I click through most lines of dialogue and skip reading sections 😅
"By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another."
John 13:35
Your narration is so good, I'm subscribing right now. I hope to see more videos like this, very nice.
If only more RUclipsrs were as good as you. Thank you. 🐲
I didnt want to play this because the Paladin was removed but knowing how important Mephisto is in this installment, perhaps the Pld will return in an expansion, like how Druid and Assassin were added in D2
Mate credit where credit is due, your narrating skills are out of this world! Kudos to you
I hope for a blood knight type character like has been hinted. I’d live on a character like that. I loved ShadowKnight in EQ, DeathKnight in WoW, I’d play the hell out of a similar character in D4.
Wow this so cool. I really love quests and pieces of the story that tell "what happened to...." one of the previous chars.
Please do more!!!
Great work, thank you!
I have to say the way you assisted in telling the story was phenomenal. I did that quest line and didn't make the connection. Thank you
Wow, never thought we would find this out
Thank you so much for all your content man! I used to feel so alone in the fact that I dive DEEEEP into the lore of these games. Then I found your channel!! I pop them on as I'm working and just slip into the world of sanctuary!
The fate of the 7 heroes of Diablo 2 is one of the most mysterious in the Diablo lore, we know nothing about what happened to them until the released of Diablo 3 and its expansion pack. However only the Necromancer, Amazon and the Sorceress were revealed their names and their ultimate fate.
Bro I'm here stoned as hell 3 in the morning and this vid is too good.
Lol I did this quest, listened to every line of diologue and read every note... still had no idea this was about the D2 pally until now haha.
I don't normally care for NPC's but Ksenia is awesome lol. Great video!
At about 12:12 the Book of Lorath says that we won't know for certain what kind of man Sankekur was before Mephisto possessed him, but the manual of Diablo II provides a small clue in the document "Custodians of Hatred" from "Ex Libris Horadrim." In a letter to the Archbishop Lazarus, Sankekur talks about how he had tasked Lazarus with guarding Mephisto's Soulstone, and his concerns about the toll on Lazarus' sanity as a result of that task.
Could Sankekur have written that letter after being possessed by Mephisto? Possibly, but probably not; Sankekur didn't need anyone to guard Mephisto's Soulstone after it was shattered and its largest shard was impaled into his hand.
I wonder if the Archbishop Lazarus shattered Mephisto's Soulstone himself, just like he would later shatter Diablo's Soulstone.
wdym shattered mephisto's soulstone? wtf? so this means the soulstone in Sankekur's body wasn't the entirety of it?
@@mackparker9064 Yes, all of the soulstones were broken into smaller pieces by the time of Diablo II. Baal's soulstone was broken even before he was trapped; that's why Tal Rasha had to sacrifice himself by impaling the largest of the shards into his heart.
Mephisto's and Diablo's soulstones were intact when they were trapped, but the Archbishop Lazarus found Diablo's Soulstone beneath the cathedral in Tristram and broke it, leading to the events of Diablo I; what he jammed into Albrecht's head was the largest of the shards. Similarly, Mephisto's soulstone was broken, and Sankekur was impaled with the largest of the shards. (The other Travincal Council Members were impaled with the smaller shards.)
@@paulchapman8023 where did you got all this info? I was scavenging the wiki for this but to no avail.
@@mackparker9064 The Diablo II manual (Diablo and Baal) and Classic Battlenet (Mephisto). Apparently the RUclips algorithm deletes my posts if I get more specific.
I saw these inscriptions the other day in the game and I had a strong hunch Carthas was the Paladin from D2 as he's the only Paladin I know who could have killed Mephisto canonically.
I’ve watched *days* worth of content about Diablo lore, I still have no idea what’s going on, but oh man is it cool lookin 😊
Still waiting on Diablo guy to do the “Diablo Time” thing tho
That was some amazing storytelling.
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About a different quest and character.. when I found Lyndon in backwater and figured that he had an actual quest chain and story, I got giggidy 😂 most of the side missons are time wasting fluff but some like with Lyndon and the one where we re-trace the steps of Eliasand the three are actually really good if you care about the stories and lore..
I liked the one where you did a bunch of exorcisms in kyovashad with the priestess. The one where you help the bar tender guy, I forgot his name, but he ends up being a bandit who left because he didn’t agree with his bands actions following Asteroths destruction was really cool too.
@@stealthyturtles yep.. there are some really good ones, sadly they are few and far between in the middle of hundreds time wasting fluff..
awesome vid thank you!! I saw the kite shield and thought it was just a easter egg, sad to know it was the paladin.
Damn. Can't watch till I've done this quest, but thanks so much for the upload!
Superb voice acting my dude. Im impressed.
Wow. Carthas (D2 pally) really just a generic rare mob level boss in a side quest? Big L. He just swings his sword, summons basic adds, and repeats standard rare mob fear pentas. I was hoping for like an Unholy Fire/Freeze/Shock aura stack, or maybe an corrupted Fist of the Heavens, blessed hammer, or even a charge+zeal rush attack. Holy crap Blizz missed the mark on this iconic character's last brawl. The whole encounter design is more tragic than the writing and atmosphere. F*** you Activision/Blizz. :(
RIP D2 Pally, we will never get a paladin class ever again and they had to pull one last disrespect.
Fantastic find with amazing context added from the book of Lorath! It seems obvious that the next chapter will feature mephisto prominently with perhaps the corruption of Neyrelle....I suppose her plan to go west is to try and do what these paladins did....Isolation and containment.
Great content! Keep it coming!
Very dramatic. Good job! I didn't think much of the side characters as I've played, with the exception of the Horadrim. I listened to Deckard Cain a lot throughout the series. So I am eager to hear about other Horadric mages. Your story gave me pause to consider what happened to other factions.
I want to know what happened to Johanna, in D4, they show that Crusader's take the name of their masters after they die, and there is a side quest where you find another crusader who is looking for her master, and it ends up being another crusader named Johanna, but not the one from D3, so I want to know what happened to the original one :(
Dude this is amazing role playing!!!! Keep it up.
Excellent narration! Great weaving of the in-game elements and the story into a fun narrative.
your narration/voice acting is so damn good man. love your work. great channel. Excited for more d4 lore yet to come!
Nobody told Blizzard I actually beat Mephisto with my paladins Aura.
It's okay, simple mistake. Fix it though.