4 Reasons Why HR Is NOT Your Friend
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
- In this video, I explain why HR is NOT your friend. Many workers think that HR is a safe place to go to with workplace grievances. But, unfortunately, nothing could be further from the truth. HR is there to protect the company, not you. And it will protect the company by sabotaging you the second you make a complaint. They will set you up for failure. So, watch my video to understand the tricks HR plays on workers and how to protect yourself.
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Video content:
0:00 Intro
0:35 HR protects the company, not the worker
1:39 HR will not keep things confidential
2:30 HR investigations are unfair
3:53 HR people lie
4:45 How to protect yourself
5:53 The bottom line
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If you are being sexually harrassed or discriminated or you know your company is doing something illegal, you tell your lawer and blindside the fuck out of the company. Telling HR is like showing your hand in a game of poker.
Fucking truth, brother
What if human resources is sexually harassing you?
Great way of explaining!
Not everyone can afford a lawyer tho. Chances are if you’re working a 9 to 5, you don’t have money to fight
What if you can't afford a lawyer?
Write everything down. Details. I can’t stress this enough - including witnesses. If there is a pattern of events, obtain legal counsel and file a lawsuit.
Did that
HR is not a Police Department. They are not there to play judge and jury. They are just workers like everybody else. If there is a conflict between two workers, HR is going to do what's right for the company, not the victim. They will usually get rid of the victim, especially if he/she is on the lower hierarchy of the corporate structure. I have heard and read stories about people who complained to HR about harassment. The end result was the victim ended up resigning and in other cases, HR did nothing about it. The only reason I went to HR is that my lawyer said, "You should let HR know because I can tell you right now that the law is not going to help you." If you are being harassed at work, you have to stay there until you find suitable employment. That's what the Unemployment Commission told me.
You are so right!
They're not workers like everybody else. They're turds. They know which side their bread is buttered on so they're company all day long.
I tried that. It didn't work. Labor laws exist for a reason. As do employee rights
Basically as an employee you either put up and shut up.
You are at the mercy of coworkers and management who can run you out as long as they don't target you for 'protected' reasons.
I literally filed a retaliation complaint with HR , they started an “investigation” and a week in to the “investigation” , I get fired for “performance issues” .
When i tell you I never went so quick to the EEOC.
I am not surprised!
@@edhones Same here being bullied, mobbed, gaslighting, harassed at the hospital for over 12 years. I've happened to be the top worker for 38 years and have never been suspended. These bullies are jealous and miserable people. Union, manager, HR and the police are all totally useless. Bullies are lazy bums and stupid managers are scared of the bullies. They say about me I'm crazy, I drink, I'm a stalker all bs defamation of character. The biggest mistake since they removed disciplinary measures. They should arrest the bullies and fire the manager. Action speaks louder than nasty words. It destroyed my reputation. I will never quit to make these lazy bums ever win. If I decide to transfer to another hospital and may start mobbing once again, I don't know all the managers ect like in every department like now. So best to not change hospitals. I will never let bullies try to control me from quitting. Never let these low life lazy bums win ever win.
Hey, D, what ever happened to your claim? I hope you won.
They are like your police and court.
What is eeoc
Great advice. I recently had to make a complaint and everything you say is true. They are not on your side at all, you become an enemy as soon as you contact HR no matter how unfair the treatment you are getting at work. My advice? If you are to the point of complaining to HR, you have to be willing to walk, to find a new job and it might just be better to do that than get embroiled in a lawsuit. After my abuse, I had to see a shrink and I talked to lawyers but in the end I just started applying to new jobs and found one relatively quickly. Leave before the abusive enviroment gives you PTSD or errodes your sense of self worth so completely you will not be in the mental frame of mind to find a new job. Don't stay and get abused, start planning your exit.
Thank you, vooo. I'm at that point, but your advice really hit home. I will begin the process of searching, but being older, I may not find one quickly. But that is ok. I have some saved and only owe my small mortgage. Time for a new gig. But before I go, I will enjoy being a thorn in their side. So much for 20 years of service. Thanks!
Boss Wrote me up. Filed a complaint to HR. 1st thing she ask me Stacey what you boss wrote is a Fact Right ? HR is a Joke
Lol
Well there was a reason why you got wrote up
The thing about HR reducing legal liability by getting rid of the complaint boggles my mind is that it doesn't fix the problem in the most efficient way possible. Maybe they should reduce legal liability by fixing the cause and the employee who complains is almost never the cause. If you fix the cause, you won't have another of the same complaint from another employee.
I worked at companies that don't have an HR department. What do they do when there is a conflict between two workers? They let both workers go and hire workers who can get along with each other.
That would be just if it was true but unfortunately it isn’t, they only protect companies and management!
@@bmoshareholderappleshareho855 consider yourself a migrant worker.
HR works for your boss, not you. This is why everyone needs a union
That is not a true statement. I thought my union was there to protect me and I found out my union was working with my employer to fire me. That is why my employer has gotten away with this for so long. Someone before me had endured 18 years of bullying and harassment and discrimination and had to quit. Same as the agency I worked for before. She had worked there for 24 years and was bullied and harassed and to constructively terminate. Oops, there were two people that work there for 24 years the other one was fired.
@@kathysue9890
So the correct statement is "no one protect the workers but themselves"
Unions are for losers I’d never need any of this
Unions do nothing more than protect the weakest link. Good, productive people end up paying for the knuckleheads and slackers. If you really have worth, you shouldn’t need to depend on others to get paid for it. Don’t let 5he slackers hold you down.
the main difference between the company and a union is the union doesn’t make shit or have to balance the books. they both exist to protect and promote themselves.
I love your presentation. Direct, simple, and to the point. Extremely helpful.
I appreciate that!
@@edhones Keep up the good work. You are very educational. You train people to know what to look for and ask informed questions.
I think if you have an issue big enough to where you're thinking of taking it HR, talk to a lawyer first. Have your lawyer write HR a letter. Once the company knows you have enough money to afford a lawyer and can sue them, they're less likely to turn on you and make you the problem. However, if you can't afford a lawyer, instead of going to HR, go on Indeed and start looking for a new job. HR will NOT solve your problems. They will make YOU the problem and they will activity work towards making you go away.
What i find absolutely CRAZY is why is the superior, the higher paid employee being complained about the one being defended.
Like how is the one pointing out racial discrimination, bullying, hostile work environment, making people qanf to kill themselves etc why isnt the PROBLEM the one that gets seen as the risk and not the ones suffering.
I believe it is because if you bring these problems to light, then someone has to literally do something, and heaven forbid someone has to do some actual work.
I didn't do anything but stand up for my rights. Ticked off everybody. I was faced with a hostile work environment, nasty things being said about me. All type of things. Because I was tired of being taken advantage of.
Twenty-one years ago I suffered occupational over-use injuries. I worked for a school district. L&I at that time required an investigation of work-place injury within ten days of (W694816) report. ESD 123 granted themselves four (4) 90 day extensions, denying payment for on-the-job medical injuries' treatment through all that time, and after having worked with overuse injuries for a year I retained an attorney as medical providers had sent me to collections. By the second 90-day extension I understood who I worked for and every email was printed and kept in a file at home. During discovery the school district claimed to have "lost" my email account but we demolished them. 'This principal emailed our client here, that administrator emailed client then, do you have their emails? Defendant has repeatedly demonstrated bad-faith.' Repeated L&I violations by a government agency are akin to qualified immunity. Keep up the good work!
why they are called Hopeless Resources
Why are HR and recruiters nearly exclusively female?
And usually narcissistic!
Because usually the whole company is toxic and top heavy with an over abundance of white guys at the top of the food chain. The only 'acceptable' place to stick a woman in that kind of old school company is in HR or Marketing and occassionally the legal dept if they have one. Go ahead and look at the boards at some companies and you will see what I mean. These are the companies that pay lip service to 'diversity' but they are anything but diverse.
Because HR often steps over people's lives. Being in HR often requires one to have no compassion or empathy towards the person on the other side, a trait that is natural in many women. They are more lacking in the moral ethics department and many won't feel bad for screwing another person's life. In fact, they actually enjoy it.
I've always noticed this, and it completely makes sense once you take into account how women operate mentally.
@Bruce_Fernandes damn sadly this is true.
This is bang on!!!!!! Im living HR drama right now!! HR shares all details!!!!! Trust this man.
As a retired employee who never dealt with HR (thank God!), I've watched a few of these videos and they all are pretty much the same. So now that I have this knowledge about HR, this is what I would do if I were in a situation where I needed to file a complaint with HR. First, I would go to my lawyer and share my complaint with them. Secondly, I would file my complaint with HR with a letter from my lawyer establishing strength to avoid any monkey business from HR. This approach, I believe, protects and weaponizes me to the level of the company and forces HR to do it job correctly. And if HR doesn't like this approach, well, they can take an aspirin.
If you can afford a lawyer. Which most people can't. That's why HR knows they can do anything they want to you because you can't do shit back.
@@SonicDeeHedgehog Seeing a lawyer for a letter of representation is just a few hundred dollars. It's just saying, this is my client. Treat him well, and I won't have to take legal action. Companies don't like legal action. It cost them too much in legal fees and bad publicity.
This game about HR 😊
I had to threaten to call the police twice on my job, on 2 separate occasions for human resources for them to take me seriously.
Best way to avoid all this stupidity is to find a way to earn you own money and nor work for someone else.
This video can be summed up by this one opening statement..."Human Resources...more like a waste of resources."
Valued employees need to recognize that they hold more power in their company than they realize. If you are skilled and have a good reputation for being a hard worker, honest and ethical, don't allow anyone to lie, manipulate or demean you in any way.
Open and honest communication is how problems at work can be solved today but sadly we live in a world today where dishonesty rules and is king and sometimes you will find this in companies. Companies and management will lie, cheat and steal and they will think that they are doing you a favour. Do YOU really want to work for such a company?
I agree with this 100%.
As someone who has worked in Human Resources (HR) for a time, I can tell you that HR is there to strictly benefit the company or business, not the people who work there. HR’s sole purpose and reason for existing, is to manage humans, whom a company or business views as simple tools, a resource, to achieve an end goal. HR then attempts to protect the company’s or business’s investments and assets by trying to ensure those tools act and behave in the exact and proper way that they were hired (bought) for, that those tools are following all the proper designated processes and procedures (to avoid legal issues), and ultimately that those tools don’t end up dulling or breaking all together (burn out and/or performance issues). Otherwise, those dull or broken tools will be quickly and easily thrown away and a new tool will be acquired as swiftly as possible as a replacement.
EVERYTHING an HR department does, is ultimately from this lense. If it ever seems like your HR department “cares” about you or is doing something nice for you, know that the ulterior motive behind it stems from the singular purpose and goal I mentioned above. It’s basic manipulation tactics via Psychology.
This is so spot on!!!!
Recently had a job a recruiter gave me her business card after the interview. I emailed her but she refused to email me about how the job interview went I also asked for reasonable accommodation but in either way she chose to call me to avoid emailing back and forth.
so truth , I totally agree with your sayings . I have witnessed that .truth that .
That is the truth!!!!
There’s a reason Michael Scott hates Toby
Thanks for the information
Thank you for watching!
It’s so sad because there are some companies like this but there are exceptions… if you find an exception stay there! I won’t leave mine because they do right by the me and my team
Can we get a video for those of us doing the grunt work in HR (like data entry) on how we can protect ourselves? HR doesn’t just go after non-HR employees. They go after all of us at the bottom too, only we have to engage with HR every minute of every day and risk having the beast turn on us too. It isn’t just a once in a while interaction. Every single day you walk in can be the day that breaks you
The editing on this looks really good 😊
Thanks, Tommy!
@@edhones absolutely!
Awesome.
Hr,the union,and the companies are all in the same bed together 90% of the time!
You are so right
Everything he is saying is so true and heartbreaking b/c it’s saddening
Best thing you can do is be savvy and catch your company in a retaliation scenario, and then sit on it. It’s ace that insures longer tenure, bet
I appreciate the info sir! I just lost my job with a island municipality here in NC. However since this is a right to work state they can fire me because they didn't feel good that day and just wanted to see a man crushed...
Who says you can't do anything? Im pretty sure in Texas if your manager or HR department cuts your throat, they must immediately start sleeping with one eye open and stay out of any place public or risk taking a severe beat down in front of their family
3 months before I left company manager of department 2 told head of department I, they want me working for them full-time,
I won't be going back to department 1.
Shortly thereafter the head of department 1 (Indian) got Indian employees to start harassing me (walk past my chair saying 'head of department 1 said he won't stop harassing you until you leave', head of department 1 wants to get rid of you, you think because you of .... nationality we must be scared of you, etc.). Not to mention on my way out of building (going home) an Indian employee threatening me with a knife and gun. Told HR I'm fed up with the harassment, thinking of going to arbitration association and going to a labor lawyer.
Next day called into urgent meeting, suspended for 45 days, then called into disciplinary meeting (accused of fake charges) and dismissed. 4 days later received email stating company received my resignation letter - I never resigned.
Prior to above happening to me another white employee (different department) was targeted by same head of department 1, the white employee resigned with Immediate effect. His work was moved over to department 1 (Indian employees).
Does that sound like nepotism / racism / discrimination by head of department 1 (Indian) ?
Was the intention to replace me with Indian employees of department 1 (just like with other white employee) ?
I chose to fight unfair treatment at work (unfair labor practice) by not responding or retaliating (just ignored it), but reported issue to HR. What is the lesson in above scenario, don't ever trust HR (human resources), if you're an employee, they are not your friend. Don't complain, just get another job, then resign.
You need to get all your proof like any emails, notes about what went on out of the company's reach asap. Once you report, your chances of keeping it are diminshed.
Your videos are great! Hopefully you do a video on the me to movement & men being wrongfully & falsely accused of things they didn't do! I hope you do an independent contractors videos to! Thanks for keeping it simple!
another excellent video, thanks ! yes, HR is definitely not what it feigns to be. revealing is that X number of years ago (decades) there weren't any HR departments, this is a newer invention, and it was not made to support staff.
I noticed that a lot of these HR departments and Hiring Managers be way to close its links the HIring managers got there hands in the HR department
Little tip here Ladies and Gents. Don't ever let HR know you are more intelligent than them, you will be fired for denting their ego's. It happened to me at shAMAZON UK.
For real. Some tend to be overzealous and overstep even other members of management.
Thank God.
This is why people hate big corporations so much. This is why there is no company loyalty anymore and most people only work to the rule and eventually quiet quit. It's the equivalent of having a coach that doesn't give a shit about the players on the team. They just won't produce for him. It's a losing formula based on no trust, treachery and selfishness.
It the best thing to do is quit if your being miss treated
Absolutely!!!
So why have HR?
To protect the company of course!
I was suspended and sent home for a week without pay, received a written letter stating that i was suspended for a week. So i decided to contact HR on the last day to see if after the 5 day i was going to continue without pay. I then received a txt from HR stating that my suspension was extended another week and without pay. Can they actually do that without a written notice like the first time and just extend my suspension another week? 🤦♂️
Human Resource people are neither human, nor resourceful.
Can I sue the individual making that false claim?
Amen, brother
Yeah, I work as a home health provider and the clients can keep cameras in their home. I was violently harrassed at 8 months pregnant.
What happened
The worst hr ever was I complained about a employee who called out all the time then I got fired for being a stellar employee but 5 years later they were all fired never use hr at all great video
Great video 📷📸
you are right in America their is no legal federal law protecting workers from confidentiality. In Canada however HR must keep things confidential or they can be fined and or lose their job under the (PIPA) Personal Information Protection Act
never go to HR. well maybe to ask a question about health benefits or the time of day. but when I asked about my health benefits, I was handed a brochure, and then she just stared at me.
I wish i saw this earlier 😢 our HR literally destroyed me
How do we hold employers responsible
Somebody please help....a company I know are seemingly "deeply concerned" about employees mental health. Encouraging fellow workers to help their colleagues and if employees are concerned enough to report the so called ailing individual to HR so they can help. I have some thoughts on this, what do others think, I'd love to know?
HR ruined my life because they’d rather not do an investigation to clear my name. It happened at UPS
Edit: I thought I was safe because I had nothing to hide. The girl was lying because she did something that was gonna get her fired. She even gloated about it the next day.
And they railroaded me for it.
At 3:54, while I agree that HR can be shameful in its lies, it's also noteworthy that some HR offices (or at least some HR generalists) are just plain incompetent. I've seen HR offices lacking in basic knowledge of admin leave, payroll processing timelines, and other separation logistics. Heck, these HR folks would love to lie and wish they had enough process and legal knowledge to do so, but, alas, the best they can do is start to run with the ball and then take a tumble.
The documentation I sent to HR they used against me. And no their investigation doesn't interview other employees that could corroborate your story. If you're in a union shop a lawyer or the EEOC or the Human Rights division will not deal with until all of your investigations and grievances are settled.
Shalom! I am currently going thru this right now. One manager has already contacted Human Resources about me. I was recently given a consultation over something petty; the manager said she has been talking to Human Resources and will begin documenting my actions at work. She and another manager issued me a PIP. I maybe on my way out.
And you in turn need to be documenting them. Are they singling you out? Sounds like it. If you are in a protected class, you may have a legal case. If not, don't stick around for more abuse. They sound like a couple of vipers who have banded together to force you out. Start your exit strategy, it is not going to get better.
@@vooo1314 Yes, thank you vooo1314. Everyone has told me to document everything; I have had some employees give me information I can use. During this I have come to the conclusion that Human Resources is definitely not my friend.
@@vooo1314 I failed to mention that the two managers that believe are seeking to oust me have been for months now micromanaging me.
Document, document, document. Good wishes to you. @@BigDust200 Fear not.
@@BigDust200same with mine
Yes they do lie and so fast
In the UK, there are some specific topics that must be kept confidential. There are some that must be kept strictly confidential.
@Letsthinkaboutit-mb7nn I believe that you are very much mistaken. Whilst many companies give you medical coverage, it's not required here in the UK. Across the European continent, there are equally better deals.
Paid annual leave is another that we all get here in Europe. Most people in North America can only dream of such benefits.
Also, what's with this thing where you have to pay US taxes for income younearn in other countries? I don't mean to spend 6 weeks in France, then head back after, I mean, when you live and work in another country, that you pay both the local taxes and US taxes.
Good luck.
They forgot that you always can take the law in your own hands againat them.
Probably true!
Too late! 😢
What if we are union? Does all this still apply?
Human Resources ... more like human waste.
HR directors also have to follow company's do's and don'ts. they're just employees just like anybody else.the difference is they earn a salary and you are an hourly worker.
Knew this from day one
The truth is that HR complainers straight up are bad employees. There’s a massive correlation there. I don’t know how one goes to law school and gets passionate about protecting these corporate liabilities.
One thing people don’t remember is this. It’s not the companies that get hurt. It’s the complainers’ managers, who are just trying their best and trying to support their families.
Absolutely 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😂😂
Somebody needs to get their shit together
Protecting u as an employee is protecting the company from catching lawsuits
That's so stupid
Get rid of the problematic worker so they sue
We have to change these slave master ways
The thing is, you can sue but all they have to do is make up a bunch of reasons why YOU were a bad employee and that was why you were let go. The second they see you as a problem, they watch every single move you make. You took a minute longer during break? That's getting written down. You forgot to write the date on a document? That's getting written down. They won't tell you they're watching you. But they're watching you and building a case against you. Even though you went to them because you're being sexually harassed.
I am a good worker but always got fired for these kinds of mistakes. I wish I had these videos 20 years ago. My life may have turned out differently.
😂
Everytime I see the HR I remember that HR rat meme
I watched this revealing video and was rembering my expereinces in the USA. This is a very American way I thought. The next day I came across a video about systematic rape of a first year kid in a high school in Kazakhstan. The father said the boy came home with traces of sperm and excrements on his cloths. Then a Russian teacher from that school appeared on the video saying that the 6 yo boy was a very bad boy indeed because he used bad words and showed indecent gestures to his classmates!
What do you mean
Nobody is your friend.
As if I needed four reasons…
This is not completely accurate. Yes, HR should protect the company but yes they also protect the employee. Some companies mismanage or misalign their HR people or depts. but that doesn’t mean that is how HR should be or what real HR. Although I can’f disagree that with some employers, HR isn’t really HR.
Let it progress to the point where your abuser at work physically harms you, you immediately report the physical harm to police that day to get the abuser arrested, then contact lawyer to sue the company for $400,000, then look for another job, let’s go !!!!
Then you take $50,000 from that $400,000lawsuit and invest it in bank CDs
Yeah no the whole notion that HR is there for people is the biggest lie ever.HR is and have always been, company police. I mean, you call a department "human resources", how is it possible to miss how cynical that is? Then they usually have the balls to tell you "we are a family here at megacorp inc", imagine a mother calling her child "my little human resource". Oh im sorry, I will be late today, my resource had some issues with the other resources in kindergarten.
HR is to private sector employers what internal affairs is to law enforcement agencies. Screw over fellow employees from the same employer.
No SH!T. Hey get your resume up-to-date. Corporations don't owe you anything, so you are your own employer.
Do you do more than expected in your job, are you mentoring others, and asking for feedback? Are you thanking others for helping you finish a task, a report, a collaboration, etc. Always thank others for helping you. It builds trust and they will go out of their way to help you later. Document your work, ask for feedback from your Supervisor and ASK for work.
What I did as a Supervisor, (now retired) was preach to my team was the four Cs: Communication, Collaboration, Cooperation, and Coordination. No one can take shots at you if you do these four things and of course, document your work.
I got wrongfully terminated from Paschall Truck Lines out of Murray Kentucky by a guy named James Cooper that works for Paschall Truck Lines HR is worthless at Paschall Truck Lines they didn't want to help me out whatsoever😢
It hurts it painful and you might be down bed ridden for it but take a week to soak and get your resume back together and get back out there.
It used to be a safer place buuuut unfortunately, they have fully turned to the dark side.
Let’s go Ed!!!
Looool @ waste of resources😂😂
What kind of monster claims to be a human advocate then lies and breaks their own confidentiality claims for even the most minor of issues.
It happens a lot!
No, thats not how HR and HR investigations work. I'm sure you are telling those who search for this sort of thing what they want to hear. I watched some of you other videos and they are pretty good. So come on, no reason to take a cheap shot at HR. I could easily make a comment about lawyers, but I won’t.
This makes me laugh.
No we're not your friend. Get over it.
Don't bad mouth HR, you know we have to do what the higher up want.
R u HR?
So then at what point does it stop, if no one in HR is willing to adhere to ethics and morality?
It sounds like you're aware you're aiding in illegal activity.
Typical HR bully.
SO do employees or they are let go
So basically say nothing right!
Let it progress to the point where your abuser physically harms you, you immediately report the physical harm to police then contact lawyer to sue the company for $400,000, then look for another job, let’s go !!!!
@@mclome22exactly I would sue
Harvey Weinstein had 10 HR reps working for him. Enough said.