It’s interesting that the STAP required a pilot and wasn’t a dedicated droid with processing, because it’s role and design philosophy would’ve made more sense if it was a droid instead of vehicle+b1 battle droid
It was actually designed with droids in mind. It gives organic riders cancer. They are however based on civilian craft ment for organics. The idea is a cheap upgrade to the civilian airhook vehicle, the engine upgrade being simple power upgrade and not needing the additional radiation shielding an organic pilot would need to ride it safely. But it doesn't need to redesign the controls/balance/etc that switching it to an automated system would need. Hence the humanoid droid pilot. So yeah, its a good thing anakin lost his legs because that probably saved him from cancer.
It's just cheaper that way, givng them a dedicated brain or transmitter would make them more expensive, and that money would virtually be wasted all the time they weren't in use, because they could do only one thing. So it's more cost effective to man it with the droids that do everything else in your organisation anyway. The whole idea of basically all Trade Federation Vehicles is to keep the costs down. Their effectiveness in their role mostly comes second.
The STAP doesn’t look like something that would be safe for any organic pilot short of Anakin Skywalker to pilot. The posture that B1s have to assume to use the STAP would be really uncomfortable for an organic, and they’re far more likely to fall or get knocked off of it than with the BARC speeder.
On one hand I agree with you on the other hand pretty sure Obi-Wan did it at one point… maybe it’s a Jedi thing or another ‘Obi-Wan is great pilot, it’s just Anakin is always around being an exceptional one so you don’t think about it so much’ XD
In the original battlefront game, on ps2, I actually like the stap better than the speeder bikes, since they aren't as fast giving me more control, and the blasters were also more powerful with a shorter cooldown.
This will be a hard one though I never saw any STAAPs crashing into terrain without being shot at or something also they can fly so can be used pretty much anywhere
I'd actually disagree with the final diagnosis. I'd say it depends on the battlefield scenario. If you're looking at it purely as a reconnaissance vehicle then I'd say the STAP's superior communications make it the winner. If the BARC encounters the enemy and is taken out immediately, all you know is "something is there". In the case of the STAP you have the full analysis uploaded to the droid control ship in realtime and so will have more information. Also, if your reconnaissance vehicle is likely to be taken out you'd prefer the cheaper option. For every other battlefield scenario, yes the BARC wins hands-down for the reasons stated.
That means that people who make the sci Fi cars like warthogs and batmobile will start working on aerial models, like the banshee and of course, these two
8:28- Some one literally made a STAP in Spore. Also you have to admit, The STAP’s ability to directly relay info instead of the pilot needing to is pretty smart
I’d love to see the BARC speeder as a personal aircraft being used in real life. I could even imagine it as a way to travel over vast rural to get to your desired location in a fast fashion.
the BARC looks BADASS and we see them escort and even rapidly destroy an ARC-170 during order 66, so they have TONS of power behind those 4 blasters as well. this thing is basically a light airfighter posing as a bike.
The STAP at least did what no BARC could ever do: It put a temporary STAP to one of General Grievouses rampages during the battle of Boz Pity, though granted this was with a little help from the (at that point quite fed up) Windu blowing it in the right direction.
Ik the stap can fly but can't the barc as well? We see them all around coruscant during TCW flying but I'm not sure if the GAR used ones that were only grounded.
Without the plot armor I wonder which tactic overall would be better in a neutral environment? To compare the vehicles themselves is just comparing a nice mug to a foam cup.
barc was definitely a better craft but i could still see a reason to deploy a disposable droid scout that will probably die rather than risk a barc and a clone. and as i saw mentioned, the barc has to make it back for you to get information, the stap doesn't. it might just be a better scout overall, especially if you were to create a modified droid with various sensor packages, it would probably still be cheaper.
At 220 kph on a motorcycle I had a rush that only was matched by being in the ocean with the spotting of a great white shark, tropical sea snake as tiny as it is gave me the same adrelanine hit . I feel the need the need for speed .
the BARC speeder is my favorite speeder because how sleek it looks and the cool turbine intake thing in the front. i think i own most lego star wars sets that contain one lol
While i tend to critizes the Seps for there fire and forget policy where army is concerned, i must admit this is a case where Quantity is a quality its own. I mean to have serval thousand scout units that instantly comunicate with command....
The idea is its a cheap upgrade of a civilian craft. Improveing its engines and repulsorlift generators without the need to overhawl it with improved safety measures (such as safety straps or radiation screens taht organic pilots need) or integrated droid brains.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 I feel like you don't even need a specialized Droid brain. If the B1s can pilot it, than a B1 head could simply be plucked off the assembly line and wired into the controls. Then use that saved droid-body weight to put on some bigger guns, or even just a bomb.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 i was thinking more about the force required to propel the STAP at 250 mph than about the chemical components, but yeah that too. B1's aren't known for structural integrity
No because the writers are dumb when they try and make the clone army look better than the Stormtroopers. For no reason. In reality the only advantage clones have over birth born troops is no families to report to. Any training you can give a clone you can give a birth born trooper. There is no reason Stormtroopers trained by clone commandos (as shown in Canon) should preform worse than clone troopers. But good guy bias of Disney/filoni/etc...
Judging from BF II 2005 experience, the BARC. The STAP just feels a bit too slow despite its high hover rate. I will never understand how it's superceded by the slightly older 74-Z though. (Judging from Legends lore here, since the BARC there is made in the late years of the Clone Wars, which contradicts its early commonality in TCW 2008.)
Has anyone watched the old Star Wars clone wars (2 epidsodes) in the battle of courscant grevious destroyed everyone he fights then within his 3 second interaction with mace windy he almost died
WHOO! Another Republic win in a vs video. First, the TX-130 won against the Empire's tanks, and now the BARC Speeder beats out its Separatist counterpart. Two wins in a row. Two for two! Two for two! Man, I really tapped into my inner Marcy Wu on this one. LOL.
Tell that to the BX-series commando droids, @@matthiuskoenig3378. My point is that I’d rather compare things with similar stats, or primary focused roles, such as two Interdictors, one from the Rebel Alliance vs one from the Galactic Empire, when it comes to comparisons…
Something I hear a *LOT* when it comes to videos like these is, "The Old Republic had better gear than The Empire". There's got to be *SOMETHING* The Empire had that was better than what The Republic had, or was Palpatine such a militaristic dumbars that he completely and utterly exterminated *ANY* actual fighting chances he had when he officially ended The Old Republic? Because holy molly this is starting to get ridicules.
The Republic Army was faced with a full scale war, the Imperial Army was faced with policing and oppressing. There was no particular reason for the Imperial army to be advanced, it just had to be good enough to put down insurrections
@@bulbobaggins You do have a point, but like we've seen many times before in Star Wars media; once something actually actually hits the fan, The Stormtroopers always scatter in fear and their armor doesn't do much. I mean the 501st Legion was mascaraed by a bunch of teddy bears with sticks & stones, something I *HIGHLY* doubt will happen with The Old Republics' army. And as we saw many times in Star Wars media, The Rebel Alliance were far more capable fighters than the galactic military; a professional well funded well equipped military gets their behinds kicked repeatedly by a bunch of ticked off farmers working with whatever scraps they can get their hands on, I'm pretty sure that'll never happen if Palps just kept the equipment from The Old Republic and just slap a new paint job on it.
First Master Windo successful jump on to a STAP speeder temporal and we have saw battle driod commandos us to. Second and more importantly cost different in most case Confedercy of independent system one clone on a BARC speeder bike against One battle droid be commando or a B1 it more like 3 to one ratio at least possible nearly 4 to one this go cost battle driod per clone even. Number taking everything BARC speeder bike real is not that much better.
![Why the BARC Speeder was so Much More Superior to the Empire’s 74-Z Speeder [Republic vs Empire]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/-UHdFk-NNT0/mqdefault.jpg)
It’s interesting that the STAP required a pilot and wasn’t a dedicated droid with processing, because it’s role and design philosophy would’ve made more sense if it was a droid instead of vehicle+b1 battle droid
It was probably not designed with droids in mind. A lot of the Trade Federation stuff (like AAts, etc) were conventional rather than automated
It was actually designed with droids in mind. It gives organic riders cancer. They are however based on civilian craft ment for organics. The idea is a cheap upgrade to the civilian airhook vehicle, the engine upgrade being simple power upgrade and not needing the additional radiation shielding an organic pilot would need to ride it safely. But it doesn't need to redesign the controls/balance/etc that switching it to an automated system would need. Hence the humanoid droid pilot.
So yeah, its a good thing anakin lost his legs because that probably saved him from cancer.
It's just cheaper that way, givng them a dedicated brain or transmitter would make them more expensive, and that money would virtually be wasted all the time they weren't in use, because they could do only one thing. So it's more cost effective to man it with the droids that do everything else in your organisation anyway. The whole idea of basically all Trade Federation Vehicles is to keep the costs down. Their effectiveness in their role mostly comes second.
Okay where is the video you did on the barc speeder I can't find it even if I look it up
I think transport is a big part of its role so its a bit pointless to give it a brain if its spending 90% of its time doing non combat transport
The STAP doesn’t look like something that would be safe for any organic pilot short of Anakin Skywalker to pilot. The posture that B1s have to assume to use the STAP would be really uncomfortable for an organic, and they’re far more likely to fall or get knocked off of it than with the BARC speeder.
That's exactly why it's my favorite. No one can fly a STAP like me. No one.
On one hand I agree with you on the other hand pretty sure Obi-Wan did it at one point… maybe it’s a Jedi thing or another ‘Obi-Wan is great pilot, it’s just Anakin is always around being an exceptional one so you don’t think about it so much’ XD
Does the fact that he actually did it at one point surprise you, the other was some random girl with him that piloted one too.
In the original battlefront game, on ps2, I actually like the stap better than the speeder bikes, since they aren't as fast giving me more control, and the blasters were also more powerful with a shorter cooldown.
The BARC speeder with sidecar is epic
Put your dog in the sidecar they will love it
Same, although it'll be problematic on speed purposes.
100% it’s the coolest speeder
This will be a hard one though I never saw any STAAPs crashing into terrain without being shot at or something also they can fly so can be used pretty much anywhere
I'd actually disagree with the final diagnosis. I'd say it depends on the battlefield scenario.
If you're looking at it purely as a reconnaissance vehicle then I'd say the STAP's superior communications make it the winner. If the BARC encounters the enemy and is taken out immediately, all you know is "something is there". In the case of the STAP you have the full analysis uploaded to the droid control ship in realtime and so will have more information. Also, if your reconnaissance vehicle is likely to be taken out you'd prefer the cheaper option.
For every other battlefield scenario, yes the BARC wins hands-down for the reasons stated.
From what I seen in the clone wars series STAP can hover in higher altitudes than BARC ever did so doesn't that gives STAP an aerial adventage ?
The Sidecar reminds me of the Bikes used by the Wehrmacht. I can imagine biker guys in the Star Wars universe taking these out for rides.
Why has No One pointed out that the thrusters of the STAP Directly in the knees!?!! 🔥😳🔥
No one cares if a cheap battle droid’s knees melt.
Honestly, I still prefer the STAP. I like both of em, but the STAP has such a fun and unique design I can't help but love it.
I wish speeder bikes were real they will be so so much fun to ride in real life
They will, it's just that we're godforsakenly slow on tech advancements ever since WW2 and the Cold War ended.
Facing drunk riders would be hell. Not even a skyscraper can save you from traffic accidents anymore
That’s if you survive 😂. But they would be awesome
That means that people who make the sci Fi cars like warthogs and batmobile will start working on aerial models, like the banshee and of course, these two
@@michaelandreipalon359 I mean that or we don't have any practical use for them yet.
the two coolest speeders
8:28- Some one literally made a STAP in Spore. Also you have to admit, The STAP’s ability to directly relay info instead of the pilot needing to is pretty smart
The only thing the STAP was useful for is giving Anakin Skywalker a free ride to harass the droids.
Speeder by rule of thumb are dangerous by their reckless speed.
Clones: clone lives matter.
Droids: I'm gonna do what's called a pro gamer move.
In Star Wars Demolition the STAP was OP. It's special would stun the opponent while also giving you a chance to steal their droid.
Demolition...I haven't thought about that game in forever.
I’d love to see the BARC speeder as a personal aircraft being used in real life.
I could even imagine it as a way to travel over vast rural to get to your desired location in a fast fashion.
4:40 i see a face and it’s forever engraved in my mind
the BARC looks BADASS and we see them escort and even rapidly destroy an ARC-170 during order 66, so they have TONS of power behind those 4 blasters as well. this thing is basically a light airfighter posing as a bike.
Well i personally like the stap because it has a fun name
Half-Life scientist NPC: STAP!!!
Ya'll are aware that the thrusters are DIRECTLY in the knees!!!! 🔥😳🔥
8:57: Well, there's also Yoda, especially on that browser jumping game back on Cartoon Network's site.
I got my wisdom teeth out Wednesday and apparently I was watching your videos while I was still under the anesthetics
I just love these motorcycles of the Star Wars Universe
As a motorcyclist a real life BARC speeder sounds like fun
The STAP at least did what no BARC could ever do: It put a temporary STAP to one of General Grievouses rampages during the battle of Boz Pity, though granted this was with a little help from the (at that point quite fed up) Windu blowing it in the right direction.
this was a very cool video!! Thank you for posting :D
B1: "roger, roger."
Ik the stap can fly but can't the barc as well?
We see them all around coruscant during TCW flying but I'm not sure if the GAR used ones that were only grounded.
I want a irl barc bike even more now, but thats much harder to get then a tron replica motorcycle or deloran
The BARC is my favorite speeder.
The best description is this:
STAP: He does everything I do!
BARC: But better.
Love the barc
If we had BARCs, the Hell's Angels would ditch their Harley's in an instant.
Without the plot armor I wonder which tactic overall would be better in a neutral environment? To compare the vehicles themselves is just comparing a nice mug to a foam cup.
barc was definitely a better craft but i could still see a reason to deploy a disposable droid scout that will probably die rather than risk a barc and a clone. and as i saw mentioned, the barc has to make it back for you to get information, the stap doesn't. it might just be a better scout overall, especially if you were to create a modified droid with various sensor packages, it would probably still be cheaper.
At 220 kph on a motorcycle I had a rush that only was matched by being in the ocean with the spotting of a great white shark, tropical sea snake as tiny as it is gave me the same adrelanine hit . I feel the need the need for speed .
STAP: He does exactly what I do!
BARC: But better
Lives of both the clones and droids matter.
the BARC speeder is my favorite speeder because how sleek it looks and the cool turbine intake thing in the front. i think i own most lego star wars sets that contain one lol
I always thought the STAP looked cool.
While i tend to critizes the Seps for there fire and forget policy where army is concerned, i must admit this is a case where Quantity is a quality its own. I mean to have serval thousand scout units that instantly comunicate with command....
I enjoy using both of them in Star Wars Legion.
Love it when you use images from star wars legion
8:37. Is it me or is that the Spore creator? Did someone make a STAP as a vehicle in Spore??
Anybody got a link for the BARC vs. 74-Z Speeder Bike comparison video?
What about the speeders used by the biker series commando droids?
Where's the previous video i cant find it
Space Harley vs Flying Segway
BARC speeder, waht are yuo doin? BARC speeder, STAP it.
Great video keep up the great work and can you make a video of Sith Lords who had kids or related to another Sith Lord
Lol just looking at these platforms with their engine exhaust pointing at the drivers legs
Okay where is the video you did on the barc speeder I can't find it even if I look it up
I wonder what the Flinkot (Geonosian speeder) matches up to the BARC?
I'd LOVE a BARC speeder to zip around and blast some clankers with 😃
When you're making a speeder that can only be piloted by a B1, you might as well just slap a Droid brain in it and ditch the B1.
The idea is its a cheap upgrade of a civilian craft. Improveing its engines and repulsorlift generators without the need to overhawl it with improved safety measures (such as safety straps or radiation screens taht organic pilots need) or integrated droid brains.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 I feel like you don't even need a specialized Droid brain. If the B1s can pilot it, than a B1 head could simply be plucked off the assembly line and wired into the controls. Then use that saved droid-body weight to put on some bigger guns, or even just a bomb.
How does the exhaust of the turbines not destroy the pilot's legs?
Because the droid is metal. Caninclaly it gives organic pilots cancer
@@matthiuskoenig3378 i was thinking more about the force required to propel the STAP at 250 mph than about the chemical components, but yeah that too. B1's aren't known for structural integrity
STAP, Collaborate and listen.
I will never understand why pal took two test proven armies and say no I'll go with random guys
Because the OT came first
No because the writers are dumb when they try and make the clone army look better than the Stormtroopers. For no reason.
In reality the only advantage clones have over birth born troops is no families to report to. Any training you can give a clone you can give a birth born trooper. There is no reason Stormtroopers trained by clone commandos (as shown in Canon) should preform worse than clone troopers. But good guy bias of Disney/filoni/etc...
Please do a video on Jedi Bob...
How heigh could both speeders fly exactly?
I'm sorry did I hear Geetsly just say that the BARC Speeder CAN FLY ALONG SIDE LAATS?
Yo Geetsly's, you guys play Star Wars Legion by any chance ?
Quantity over quality
Judging from BF II 2005 experience, the BARC. The STAP just feels a bit too slow despite its high hover rate.
I will never understand how it's superceded by the slightly older 74-Z though. (Judging from Legends lore here, since the BARC there is made in the late years of the Clone Wars, which contradicts its early commonality in TCW 2008.)
The cis: is it really a suicide mission if our soldiers aren’t actually alive
Except...the commando droid drove one?
I mean, a commando droid was basically a B1 that didn't have the intellect of a rock.
@@jamesleduke873 and that's being generous.
@@jamesleduke873 I mean I know the cis means a half of a 💲 when it comes to droids.
Keep your BARCS, I'll take a STAP any day.
Didn't the Separatists also use a Geonosian speeder bike?
I actually like the stap speeder. But they nerfed it to the ground in bf2.
2005 or 2017 Battlefront?
Has anyone watched the old Star Wars clone wars (2 epidsodes) in the battle of courscant grevious destroyed everyone he fights then within his 3 second interaction with mace windy he almost died
WHOO! Another Republic win in a vs video. First, the TX-130 won against the Empire's tanks, and now the BARC Speeder beats out its Separatist counterpart. Two wins in a row. Two for two! Two for two!
Man, I really tapped into my inner Marcy Wu on this one. LOL.
1 v 1 BARC wins sure, but when would that ever happen on the battlefield it would be upwards of 3 to 5 STAPs vs 1 BARC so maybe not so cut and dry
I don’t like that the droid speeder looks like it has a face.
Buy people did fly the stap. Mainly Skywalker and Kenobi.
Unfortunately, you’re comparing the BARC with the droids’ version of a 74-Z. You’re better off comparing the BARC with the Flitknot speeder bikes…
Flitknots were unarmed, not combat speeders.
Tell that to the BX-series commando droids, @@matthiuskoenig3378.
My point is that I’d rather compare things with similar stats, or primary focused roles, such as two Interdictors, one from the Rebel Alliance vs one from the Galactic Empire, when it comes to comparisons…
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Something I hear a *LOT* when it comes to videos like these is, "The Old Republic had better gear than The Empire". There's got to be *SOMETHING* The Empire had that was better than what The Republic had, or was Palpatine such a militaristic dumbars that he completely and utterly exterminated *ANY* actual fighting chances he had when he officially ended The Old Republic? Because holy molly this is starting to get ridicules.
The Republic Army was faced with a full scale war, the Imperial Army was faced with policing and oppressing. There was no particular reason for the Imperial army to be advanced, it just had to be good enough to put down insurrections
@@bulbobaggins You do have a point, but like we've seen many times before in Star Wars media; once something actually actually hits the fan, The Stormtroopers always scatter in fear and their armor doesn't do much. I mean the 501st Legion was mascaraed by a bunch of teddy bears with sticks & stones, something I *HIGHLY* doubt will happen with The Old Republics' army. And as we saw many times in Star Wars media, The Rebel Alliance were far more capable fighters than the galactic military; a professional well funded well equipped military gets their behinds kicked repeatedly by a bunch of ticked off farmers working with whatever scraps they can get their hands on, I'm pretty sure that'll never happen if Palps just kept the equipment from The Old Republic and just slap a new paint job on it.
First Master Windo successful jump on to a STAP speeder temporal and we have saw battle driod commandos us to. Second and more importantly cost different in most case Confedercy of independent system one clone on a BARC speeder bike against One battle droid be commando or a B1 it more like 3 to one ratio at least possible nearly 4 to one this go cost battle driod per clone even. Number taking everything BARC speeder bike real is not that much better.