Best Drivers of 2019 | Game Improvement & Slice Control | Average Swing Speed Test

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  • Опубликовано: 30 окт 2024

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  • @brandonmcmahan676
    @brandonmcmahan676 3 года назад

    These videos tailored towards the "average" golfer are the best consumer advice on RUclips. Thank you!

  • @ScottDreyfus
    @ScottDreyfus 4 года назад +44

    There are people out there dieing to hit it 250 and Matt's just flicking it out there.

  • @ryantaylor6063
    @ryantaylor6063 4 года назад +1

    Gents, please put this video into your repeat list every year. The info and level of explanation to help average hackers like myself make informed choices is 1st rate. Reducing that miss to the right has made my weekend rounds SOOOOO much more enjoyable.

  • @thegolfingsociety5093
    @thegolfingsociety5093 4 года назад

    This is what I really like about TXG reviews! Compared to most other reviews you actually understand fitting and what it is all about! There can never be one for ALL, all for ONE!

  • @stephendibari7704
    @stephendibari7704 4 года назад +4

    PING SFT is by far the winner... Looking forward to the “Better” player test! By far the best golf related RUclips channel ! Always my go too when it comes to club reviews and also Rick Sheils who gives a pretty comprehensive format similar to you guys !

  • @darrenbell6376
    @darrenbell6376 4 года назад +3

    I had Taylormade start of year switched to epic flash middle of year and now I'm gaming g410 plus. I hit a slight fade and the g410 plus in 9* set to draw with a alta regular shaft at 45" playing length which is a monster. I've never hit a straighter and more forgiving driver ever in my golfing years and this will be in my bag for years to come. Even purchased 3 & 5 wood to match and again there true fairway finders

  • @7UpYours1234
    @7UpYours1234 4 года назад +1

    Always love the vids. This is one of your best IMO. When Matt slows his swing speed to "average" he still maintains an incredible consistency. This was really helpful. Amazing.

  • @En5an3
    @En5an3 4 года назад +2

    Watching Matty "The Canadian Bomber" Blois is always a true pleasure. Even when he's deliberately hitting "Bad" shots out to 250

  • @justinstephenson9360
    @justinstephenson9360 4 года назад +2

    I am in 2 minds about draw biased drivers. At start of year I had my usual issues with "over fades" and set up my Epic in the most draw biased settings possible (lofted up a degree, movable weight to draw, shaft/hosel set to draw) which gave me more control. About that time I tested the M6 Draw driver which was brilliant - a good 10 yards longer than my Epic and straighter. But since then I have had lessons and shortened the driver shaft to 44.5". Completely transformed my driver and I have gradually dialed out the draw bias in the Epic settings (still lofted up a degree but will be testing that on trackman), probably now hitting it as long as the M6.
    Adjustable drivers may be more expensive to start with but with lessons you may find they work out cheaper.

  • @garyhovey9305
    @garyhovey9305 4 года назад +1

    Well done! Great job putting out the data for personal consumption. Also thank you for using slower swing speeds....I believe the average golfer makes up the larger pool of golfers (I could be wrong) but seeing numbers similar to my own certainty makes the videos more compelling. Looking forward to the value comparison! Hoping you’ll have the Tour Edge Exotics 9.5 in that group! I’m a Tour Edge guy....love the clubs and support from the customer service. Keep up the good work!

  • @waynethomas9957
    @waynethomas9957 4 года назад +1

    another great video I really like the way you go about things and explain everything

  • @ajsamis
    @ajsamis 4 года назад

    Great video and series. Love the different aspects you look at. One thing that I would find helpful (same with wedge video) is a recap summary at the end with all winners shown in a summary graphic.

  • @Tommy_Garrett
    @Tommy_Garrett 4 года назад +9

    Watching Matt swing at a "normal" speed really puts into perspective how long he is

  • @reidbrian08
    @reidbrian08 4 года назад

    Couldn't click fast enough. This channel is turning me into an equipment need.

  • @akrickm1
    @akrickm1 4 года назад +7

    Great information would it be possible to do something for those of us whose swing speed is between 80 to 95?

  • @ricardomurcia7050
    @ricardomurcia7050 4 года назад

    Ian and Matty have a Merry Christmas! I love your channel and Ian i will fly up to see you one day from LA. I dont want any other fitter but you! Cheers! Rick

  • @chrisfreitag2603
    @chrisfreitag2603 4 года назад

    Great test. Impressive that Matt can dial his swing down and adjust swing out to in and still hit it 260 yards straight down the middle.

  • @Bill-jv5eg
    @Bill-jv5eg 4 года назад +1

    Great test with that group of drivers

  • @tellwilliams2551
    @tellwilliams2551 4 года назад

    I found this in an old conversation between other people that are short the like playing flatter lies here is the conversation: I have a Tom wishon 919 11 degree driver. I had Tom bend it to a 53 degree lie angle. so about 6-7 degrees flatter than most. He searched his inventory and found the flattest one and bent it for me. I absolutely love the thing. Literally impossible to hook. If you ever wanted to hit a "power fade" this is the club. When I try to fade a more upright driver it usually results in a pretty week slice. For whatever reason I put a ton of spin on it. With this thing it's a slight fade but it carries forever. I play to a .8 handicap and can hit the R15 9.5 degree 320-350 yards (granted I live in utah and the ball carries a bit more here due to elevation) but I hit the 11 degree wishon about 290-320 with a very consistent fade so sometimes I'll remove my 3 wood and play 2 drivers, my r15 for a long draw, and my wishon on holes I need to remove left side.

  • @leftygolfer69
    @leftygolfer69 4 года назад +6

    Wow that looked like slow motion and the ball still goes 260+ 😂 many golfers with that ss are scratching their heads now 🤣

  • @minisandgolf8933
    @minisandgolf8933 4 года назад

    You leave my drives alone! Great work!

  • @mattdonovan4860
    @mattdonovan4860 4 года назад

    Can’t wait for anti hook driver video. 250 half swings is crazy

  • @zacharymilos392
    @zacharymilos392 4 года назад +8

    Matt: Literally doesn't try to swing fast
    Ball: *goes 270*
    0_0

  • @MARTIN-xt5zk
    @MARTIN-xt5zk 4 года назад +1

    Great insight… interesting that manufactures call a driver draw bias but forget to mention its only relative to their own products of that year. Taylormade M6 D-type is less draw bias than the Titleist TS3 according to the Mygolfspy ‘lab’ report this year.

    • @NovaScene
      @NovaScene 4 года назад +1

      And funny how normal M6 was fade biased asf.. So to be honest, normal M6 should have been called M6 Fade and M6 Draw should have been called just "M6".

    • @MARTIN-xt5zk
      @MARTIN-xt5zk 4 года назад +1

      @@NovaScene Agree...
      It would be great if a channel like this could enlighten us on the BS marketing….
      Golf equipment should always be about getting properly fit but unfortunately there aren’t too many TXG’s….

  • @rickcudmore8156
    @rickcudmore8156 4 года назад +1

    Very good video. Looking forward to the 'hook' drivers testing.

  • @anthonytodd5308
    @anthonytodd5308 4 года назад

    ...that is so funny, watching Matty deliberate slow swing and hitting a cut

  • @jameswalton2845
    @jameswalton2845 4 года назад +1

    “Instant fix” is a bold statement!! 😱 still love your vids btw 😂

    • @alfredtu2
      @alfredtu2 4 года назад

      He did say if you are consistently hitting the ball with the same path lol

  • @dannysawyer7146
    @dannysawyer7146 4 года назад +1

    Great videos lads
    Just a quick question wouldn’t the mizuno st190g be a contender in this line up be great to see how draw bias it would be.

  • @matthewcritchley1214
    @matthewcritchley1214 4 года назад

    Great video guys.

  • @marksamuel5347
    @marksamuel5347 4 года назад

    Ian I have a question if you bother to answer. I'm 60 and I used to slice a lot. I bought a Callaway Rogue Draw Driver but wasn't fitted for it. This year I have been hitting more fairways and staying out of the woods more than ever. I do still slice it out of bounds about 3 or 4 times a round. Here is my question. On the sole there is a 5 Gram weight. If I change that weight to lets say 7 or 9 Grams do you think that will help me draw the ball more and be more in the fairway? Thank you for your response and keep up the fantastic work! Your videos are so interesting!! .. Mark

  • @danielcohen3159
    @danielcohen3159 4 года назад

    Good work, guys! I feel like these will be close to Matt's numbers (except for path) when he's...85.

  • @southspade99
    @southspade99 4 года назад

    Got a new M6 from an original M2, couldn't get my same flight or distance. Tried a different shaft and it didn't help. Watched your earlier driver playoff bracket and realized that I should go get fitted unbiased on brand. Ended up with the Epic Flash w/ Fujikura Pro 62 x flex and wow what a difference. Straighter and longer and I disliked the color so much I never would've even considered it.

  • @fgavin6149
    @fgavin6149 4 года назад

    Hi Ian,
    I play ping G ls tec 9 degree. Path is about 2 degrees left. I keep hitting high blocks and cuts. Is the Ls tech very flat in lie angle compared to other drivers ?

  • @richardsdiaz1
    @richardsdiaz1 4 года назад

    Nice test!
    Just goes to show once again there is no one driver for everyone even though several of these are customizable enough to work for a broad range of people!

  • @medfloat5001
    @medfloat5001 4 года назад

    This is a good series so far. I am currently watching the wedge review for the second time since I am getting new wedges after the new year. Your timing is prophetic as usual. Few questions for yuns though...What is soft step/hard step? What influences do they have? Is it something that will help the average golfer and should it be considered in a golf fitting? Topic came up in a conversation the other day and I immediately though to ask the best expert I ”know”.

  • @ignorance123
    @ignorance123 4 года назад

    You guys testing Cleveland Launcher for 2020? This seemed a more clear video than the wedges...great info as always.

  • @stephenvanvleck9355
    @stephenvanvleck9355 4 года назад

    Great content video as usual guys. Correct me if I’m wrong, but it looks as though Ian has gotten Matty in the gym :)...

  • @home4ya
    @home4ya 4 года назад

    this is my swing speed but I hit a draw, curious which shaft did you use and why stiff? PING and most say at 145 ball speed fits "upper regular" (like my Ping Tour-R)

  • @mangelarsson7774
    @mangelarsson7774 4 года назад

    Stupid question maybe, but if All the players who leak the ball to the right learned to hit a little draw instead plus got custom fitted, how many extra yard would that give them? As a general rule. Understand its a question that cant be answered specifically.

  • @TKPak1
    @TKPak1 4 года назад

    You guys need to include a few japanse offerings eg: XXIO, HONMA, YONEX. These drivers generally come with lighter shafts and are really forgiving and long for slower speed swigers.

  • @Anjuuydhjjiskjhyys
    @Anjuuydhjjiskjhyys 4 года назад +3

    It’s amazing to see matt chipping 260 yards with these drivers

  • @josephscherer729
    @josephscherer729 4 года назад

    Do you guys have recommendations for someone who hits it as fast as matt does (at full speed hahaha) but is the opposite? struggles with a fade? Im struggling with finding something that works to be honest. I feel like lower spin heads are naturally fade biased.

  • @staticstephen
    @staticstephen 4 года назад +2

    Any chance of a video on taking spin off a driver 👍👍

  • @SteelTiiTan
    @SteelTiiTan 4 года назад

    I know it would be a quick video to just do one club, but could you review the differences between a brands two drivers (or woods) such as the epic flash and the epic flash sub zero? I'm interested to see the spin differences, what Matt feels the differences are in forgiveness, etc. I picked up a sub zero driver on sale, and am looking to get the epic flash 3 wood as well, not sure whether I need the sub zero to match my driver or if the "more forgiving" from what I've gathered standard version 3 wood is better.

  • @snyderdan25
    @snyderdan25 3 года назад

    Can we see this again with Mavrik Max, SIM max D, Ping g410 SFT, etc

  • @eddiex72
    @eddiex72 4 года назад

    The average ball speed comment was interesting. What would you say could help to bring that ball speed up? I’m certain that lessons, technique play a large role, as well as strength training.. What training aids would you recommend have proven to help in improving ball speed? Thanks for all you do...

  • @CosmicRBG
    @CosmicRBG 4 года назад

    The Cobra, at least the f6 rests on the ground with a close face, does that pomote lower fly path?

  • @martynedwards1493
    @martynedwards1493 4 года назад +1

    CHEAP FIX!
    I have re gripped my driver to the logo/alignment off centre (to the right) When I grip “in line” with the logo/alignment I automatically close the face (without trying or thinking about it) Has straightened me out somewhat

  • @derekv7113
    @derekv7113 4 года назад

    Can you do a comparison between G410 plus on draw setting vs g410 sft?

  • @bogeygolfer3151
    @bogeygolfer3151 4 года назад

    The G410 Plus can bet set Draw, Neutral and Fad bias so would have been good to consider this driver head as well, because you said the G410 SFT is a bit one dimensional

  • @thechaa3176
    @thechaa3176 4 года назад

    Dear Ian, pls help.
    I'm using M1 with 10.5° loft in a Fujikura Pro60 regular shaft. And been hitting slices forever. But after I cut the shaft down to 44", lofted up to 12.5° and put both weights in the middle of the front track to get that low spin. Now I'm hitting dead centre all the time. With a swing speed of about 100mph, I'm only getting about 220yds TOTAL 😭
    How can I get more distance? Please please help Sir.

    • @thechaa3176
      @thechaa3176 4 года назад

      Oh and I'm hitting lake balls at the public driving range😅. Could that be the main factor?

  • @logancrawford1163
    @logancrawford1163 4 года назад +1

    Which drivers would you guys recommend that sit neutral rather than having a draw-biased/closed face? Also - Rick Cudmore's comment "Looking forward to the 'hook' drivers video"

  • @InwonKim1982
    @InwonKim1982 4 года назад

    Dang it, my best driver distance is the same with Matt's 50% waterdown swing. Yay

  • @donkee9
    @donkee9 4 года назад

    Ball striking clinic.

  • @kerrytom08
    @kerrytom08 4 года назад

    Would you not be served better by getting the standard G410 and changing the settings? Does the sft really offer anything different?

    • @clubchampionmedia
      @clubchampionmedia  4 года назад +1

      Yes, it’s weighted more for a draw than the plus

  • @tellwilliams2551
    @tellwilliams2551 4 года назад

    Love your show but what drivers give the most fade options I love the feel like I can go after the drive and not go left on me I love a little feed take half the golf course out of play

  • @chrislewis7
    @chrislewis7 4 года назад +1

    It is depressing to see Matty hitting it so far when deliberately hitting it 'badly'. I've been really working on my drive trying to straighten it up and hit it a bit longer and I only manage to get a couple out to 240 yards per round. Back to the range again tomorrow.

  • @jameswalton2845
    @jameswalton2845 4 года назад

    Should a draw bias head be lower spinning than a standard head??

  • @mikeslater4043
    @mikeslater4043 4 года назад

    Amazing to see how much Matt looked like he was throttling back on this test, apart from the fade those numbers are identical to mine.. Now then if Matt could show us all how to ramp up to near his speed that'd be great!! Haha. :-)

    • @calebross3790
      @calebross3790 4 года назад +1

      Proper set up, pivot and face angle awareness would get you going in the right direction. Signup for George Gankas membership. It really changed the way i swing the club

    • @mikeslater4043
      @mikeslater4043 4 года назад

      @@calebross3790 Hi, Thanks for this.. I'll have a look at that.. ;-)

  • @ryandelugo4700
    @ryandelugo4700 3 года назад

    Can we get a test like this for high swing speed players?

  • @TedProMarket
    @TedProMarket 4 года назад +1

    What about the Cobra F9 Driver

  • @kariparvento5463
    @kariparvento5463 4 года назад +1

    Which shaft did you use for the G410?

  • @henrycowell193
    @henrycowell193 4 года назад

    What is the intro song called please and great video cheers again 👍

  • @goatman67al
    @goatman67al 4 года назад

    The best driver of the year is the driver you get fitted best with. For me it was the Flash!

  • @maddad4767
    @maddad4767 4 года назад

    God he's just waving at it... like shooing a fly

  • @geoffc15
    @geoffc15 4 года назад

    Three-way tie on distance, but the TS2 had lower average swing speed, so at parity on swing speed it would have been longest.

    • @clubchampionmedia
      @clubchampionmedia  4 года назад +1

      We’re not 100% sure that the club head speed readings are directly comparable between heads of different sizes and shapes - likely they were closer than the readings indicate

  • @rayfarrell9482
    @rayfarrell9482 4 года назад

    So if I tend to hit down on the ball should I look at adding loft or go down. No, I’m too old for lessons 😂

  • @danielwinterbottom5531
    @danielwinterbottom5531 4 года назад

    I found this interesting i swing at about 115mph but struggle for distance. My bad shots are straight right or left with little spin. My hybrid goes 240avg and driver about 260avg

    • @alfredtu2
      @alfredtu2 4 года назад

      Sounds like you have some major path and face inconsistency. Probably want to get on a launch monitor with a coach to sort that out. Your launch conditions must be really bad if your swinging that fast at 115mph and its only going 260.

    • @danielwinterbottom5531
      @danielwinterbottom5531 4 года назад

      @@alfredtu2 hybrid is great so driver doesn't get used. I hit about 1 degrees down and 1 degrees in to out. But i think your right with face angle.

    • @alfredtu2
      @alfredtu2 4 года назад

      @@danielwinterbottom5531 Yeah there has to be a discrepancy somewhere because if its straight right your face would be 1 degree open with a 1 degree in out path(assuming you are RH) and the only way straight left would happen would be the opposite. Or like I said launch conditions could be super poor with massive spin too. Too many variables without getting on a monitor. Good luck though!

  • @plus2golfer12
    @plus2golfer12 4 года назад

    I still haven't found anything better than my 2017 m1 closest thing is the f9

  • @waynewhiting5951
    @waynewhiting5951 4 года назад

    Can you post the Hosel settings used on the M6

  • @whiskerrub3821
    @whiskerrub3821 4 года назад

    Congratulations 54K the TXG family reunion is calling for a large table well done. Don’t worry Bandit about Ian’s remarks Mrs. Bandit still thinks your the sexist part of the driver! And if the pasty boys are reading these comments sun screen #taylormade #lax 👍

  • @peterfan8650
    @peterfan8650 4 года назад

    GR8 videos guys. Still don't understand why you would buy a Ping 410 SFT when you can just adjust the standard 410 to a draw bias.

    • @NovaScene
      @NovaScene 4 года назад

      SFT is waaay more draw biased than G410 Plus in the draw setting. I think it was something like 50!% more draw biased..

    • @jacobmccain8082
      @jacobmccain8082 4 года назад

      @@NovaScene In the words of Ron Burgundy, "That doesnt make sense." I think you mean the G410+ is waaaaay more fade biased lol.

    • @NovaScene
      @NovaScene 4 года назад

      @@jacobmccain8082 Sorry, corrected the original comment now..

    • @jacobmccain8082
      @jacobmccain8082 4 года назад +1

      @@NovaScene All good was just messing with you haha. I knew what you meant.

  • @dm4789
    @dm4789 4 года назад

    I may be the only one, but I really miss seeing the screen shots that have the full club data...even if its only the table at the end. I love to pause the video and study the numbers. I suspect the reason for no longer doing this is due to all the flack from hacks claiming this variable or that variable was overlooked, etc. It really spoiled it for all the rest of us...or at least me. :-(.

    • @clubchampionmedia
      @clubchampionmedia  4 года назад +1

      We’ll still do it for individual club reviews and other topics, just tougher when we need to get some many shots in one video

  • @stevostevopick4003
    @stevostevopick4003 4 года назад +1

    So there's Matty, looking like a bored kid with his head down, kicking a tin can down the street ( a Cyborg tin can btw) hitting it 103 mph like its nothing.
    Meanwhile, here's ole Stevie swinging out of his shoes, dislocating his hips for 90 mph 🤣🤪
    Anyways well done Matt👍. The tech in those clubs are impressive!
    Ian, did you have to dial down his battery pack?😉🍻

  • @jacobmccain8082
    @jacobmccain8082 4 года назад

    If you're naturally long a fade is much preferable to a draw. You can talk to a slice, a hook is going where it's going and quickly. Generally nowhere good. I hit a natural draw and play it with my driver simply because I'm 15 yards shorter with a fade and I dont have the yards to give.

  • @michaelhorner912
    @michaelhorner912 4 года назад

    Challenge for you I have a playing swing of about 108-110, my step on it swing is about 118. But my spin on both is about 4,000 and I hit it a mile in the air. Max distance on a launch monitor has been about 270. I see Matty hit them 320 with a 120 swing. Can’t find a fitter who can fit my swing.

    • @michaelhorner912
      @michaelhorner912 4 года назад

      And I hit it straight maybe a little left.

    • @clubchampionmedia
      @clubchampionmedia  4 года назад

      try the lowest lofted Mizuno st190 or taylormade M5 with weights moved all the way forward. Also look at strike pattern, if you tend to strike it low on the face that can spike up your spin rate

    • @michaelhorner912
      @michaelhorner912 4 года назад

      I actually have a m5 with 3 weights set in a triangle tensei orange. My strike is good within a few millimeters center of the face. I guess it’s time to break down and get lessons.

  • @gdub454
    @gdub454 4 года назад

    Why is he only doing a 3/4 swing instead of a full swing?..kind of silly and not giving really a true guide to what's the distance under a normal full swing ..am I missing something?..I dont get it

    • @clubchampionmedia
      @clubchampionmedia  4 года назад

      We were replicating the swing dynamics of the player that these drivers were intended for. Matt's normal swing is a natural draw and 120mph clubhead speed.

    • @gdub454
      @gdub454 4 года назад

      @@clubchampionmedia OK..thats fine I guess...but trying to replicate swing dynamics for who the clubs are intended for is pretty bold and ambitious..cause as we all know the golfswing is very personal..everybodys swing is different...lots of factors go into it..height weight..athletic?..etc..anyway I'm rambling ...i think you also kind of doing a disservice to the mfg's of the clubs by not giving it a normal full swing..let a golf machine robot replicate swing dynamics..and you guys justhit the ball like you would on a course..

  • @johnsneade2995
    @johnsneade2995 4 года назад

    This is my go to swing rather than hitting 3 wood

  • @benlemoi3515
    @benlemoi3515 4 года назад

    Man I wish I could not try and swing that well

  • @sshadow2
    @sshadow2 4 года назад

    It's a shame...I feel I'm swing out of my shoes to get it that far.
    102mph clubhead speed, 225 ball carry, nearly 4000 rpm PING 9* G410 Plus.

    • @robertpresley4467
      @robertpresley4467 4 года назад

      sshadow2 That a lot of spin. Need to try hitting up on it and get that spin in the 2500 range.

  • @mrjamesgrimes
    @mrjamesgrimes 4 года назад

    Are you kidding me?? 5-7 out to in and the ball is going dead straight??? 🧐🧐🧐

  • @joshualink6973
    @joshualink6973 4 года назад +1

    need hook control!

  • @mobilestudio7387
    @mobilestudio7387 4 года назад

    First

    • @NovaScene
      @NovaScene 4 года назад

      Ur my idol 👏 Brawo