Is a Shorter Length Driver Better for Your Game? // Driver Length Distance & Accuracy Test
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Testing two identical drivers at 45" and 43.5" playing lengths. Find out what differences occur in distance and accuracy!
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I am 6' 2" and switched to a 44" driver about a month ago and couldn't be happier. At first, I lost about 5 yards of distance on average but my number of fairways went up by 25% right away. As I have built more and more confidence with the club, my distance has also increased to the point where I am hitting it about 10 yards further.
I’m 6’3” and going to do that for the upcoming season! Making all my woods shorter for consistency:
Driver: 44”
3 Wood: 43”
5 Wood: 42”
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Love it when TXG demonstrates a concept. It's one thing to talk about it, but to show it helps me learn it.
This is so spot on. I just made a switch in length in my driver. I switched from a 68g 45" shaft to a 77g 44-1/4" length to maintain my D3 swingweight. The heavier shaft allowed me to not have to add so much weight to the head and balance the club better. Otherwise it felt like I was swinging a 25lb sledge hammer. Anyway, I have seen on the average a 40% increase in fwy's hit and have not lost any distance. Maybe increased it because of efficiency. This has changed my game. I recommend everybody trying this for themselves. I believe they will be surprised and probably would game it. Thanks for the great videos.!
Great stuff fellas! I put my 3 wood shaft into my F9 driver last week and added the 18 gram weight and 10 gram weight. I didn't really lose any distance and hit some straighter drives. Cobra's sleeve can be switched between fairways and drivers unlike some other manufacturers. Awesome stuff!
Thinking of doing the same with my 5 wood shaft but I’d have to buy weights
@@saulgoodeguitars if you like to tinker, I think it's worth it to buy extra weights. Also Cobragolf.com usually gives you a buy 3 get 1 free plus you can often times find discount codes for cobra on coupon sites
You guys.... keep doing what you're doing, so much good information!!
Excellent info
Loads of people have shortened shafts without replacing weight and junked it after 1 round...
I understand you need to add weight to compensate for the swing weight BUT what does it affect regarding the performance? What will you see if you cut the shaft 1" but don't change the weight in the head? :)
Hi guys. I purchased a new full set of Mizunos and hate the driver. It has 10.5 deg loft which means that L create high spin causing it to go steeply up, has a really short shaft 43.5inch and sprays and has no guts when I finally manage to get a ' good ' strike. At the fitting the Mizuno rep and our club pro agreed that I needed 1 inch long and 2 degrees flat for the irons and I expected this to flow into the rest of the Driver, 5 wood and 3 rescue. Haven't been able to get back to the fitting room due to Covid restrictions here in Australia.
Each of my old drivers were 45 inches or longer and I was much more consistent and longer. My impression is that the head is really light and just feels as if it flicks through. At the moment I've dialled it down to the lowest setting to try to get some penetration of flight. This video is very interesting if the head should have extra weight. I feel I need a standard Mizuno shaft at 45 or 45.5 inches as listed on their website
These tests always seem to be done with decent quality players. I'd love to see this with a mid-handicapper. I anticipate these results would be stronger in favour of shorter drivers.
The guy they almost always use is way beyond decent, otherwise I agree with you 100%!
I cut a shaft down to the same length as a 7 iron. Actually played decently.
It all makes sense. Shorter driver more accuracy, but weight must be added to the head. Is there a formula for how much is taken off the shaft to how much weight has to be added to the head??
@@nickpritchard7130
A swing weight scale isn’t expensive and lets you adjust your swing weights not just for shaft length changes bit also when changing grips.
Yeah, I read a comment about Matt recently saying that he could hit a can of cream corn tied to a broomstick 300 yds.
I have played shorter drivers for a few years now, went to a slightly heavier shafts to offset the swing weight loss. Hitting fairways and still getting some major bombs, will probably go to 44.5 at the longest. Fit a customer into a 44.5 driver and he instantly started hitting fairways and his dispersion improved dramatically, settled on the srtixon zx7 with a tensei white x flex. "I ain't ever going back to 45 or longer" was his comment after two tournaments and a Monday qualifier. Couldn't putt was his issue.
Im a 15 handicapper and use a 44.5 length in my TS3 driver. I went shorter for the accuracy. 112 club head speed and average 290 off the tee. I’ve seen a huge improvement and I wouldn’t go back! I still feel like I could tweak the type of shaft and get more out of it.
Any chance you could do a video on putter head weight & if a heavier head weight would influence stroke, rotation & consistency
Really good video. I’m interested in the topic. Good to look at what could be with having mr golf swing machine test. Would be interested in what a 10 handicap gets out of this. You could probably say from all your fitting experience. Thanks!
I hit a 43" 2014 calloway big bertha driver! I absolutely smash the ball with a average smash factor of about 1.42. My only problem is my swing speed is about 85 mph on average. But still hit over 200 yards on the total distance of a drive. I was having a tendancy to come in too steep on my driver tee-offs so i went from a 45.5" driver to a 43.5" driver length. I absolutely hit the ball super crisp. I just wish i could actually hit a 45.5" driver without undercutting the ball on the tee. Everytime under the ball. I can hardly make it 60 or 70 yards off the tee box. My flex on the 43.5" driver is just a regular flex. Now it is probably close to a stiff after shaving off 2"! I have hit this driver over 235 yards after shaving it down. Just sayin. If a guy went to a longer club after you were used to hitting a 2" shorter club would you move futher away from the ball in your set-up stance. Just wondering what adjustments a guy would have to make in order to hit the ball crisp off the tee for a longer driver after being used to hitting a short driver? Would be a shame to cut a new driver down to 43" everytime i buy a new driver. Can you help me. thanks.
dude, you're not committed to playing a shorter shaft yet...almost, but
Don't go back to Longer Length ! Ever !
I switched my driver stiff shaft with my 3 wood stealth 2 plus regular stiffness shaft. I lost 30 yards, but was hitting straight.
Not sure if its something else...
Bought a new set of clubs and immediately driver was too long for me. I knew i was never going to use that driver so went to the store and bought a YOUTH driver, around 43 inch vs. the 46 inch one and man oh man, 10 times better. I worried it was abnormal being a teenager driver but it was PERFECT for me and based on these comments, its common. Go get a YOUTH driver if you need a small one.
Time to do this one again. its been over 2 years now lol
Can we get the test of Matty driving a club that was cut down without any adjustments for swing weight? See what it actually does to his swing?
I understand you need to add weight to compensate for the swing weight BUT what does it affect regarding the performance? What will you see if you cut the shaft 1" but don't change the weight in the head? :)
Good info knowing it isn't...just cutting the shaft.
Without shortening the shaft and having to alter swing weights, would you be able to get the same results by maybe increasing tape to the bottom end of the grip and just gripping further down.
Matt please tell us that you decided to go with the 43.5 inch shaft in your driver full time?
Proof enough for me. at 49 still swinging around 130. Need accuracy and if I lose nothing but a few miles an hour and gain a huge advantage in fairway landings. Not a hard choice to make. Ian, would you consider the same for the 3 wood? I play a 42" 3w at the moment and I pick that over my driver even on par 5's over my 44 1/2 " driver. I have a very difficult time with my driver.
Nevermind, I was under the impression I was playing a 44 1/2" driver. Turns out it is 46". Getting it cut down today. I cannot hit that length unless I get the perfect spot on shaft.
I don't know if it's been mentioned in another post, but would going to a 70g shaft help make swing weighting easier to achieve?
Counter Balanced shaft in 44.5".
Would you advise a shorter player to play a shorter length shafts as I struggle to be consistent with a 45” standing at 5’10”..?
So every 1/2" off is approximately 6gm to add to keep same swingweight?
I have a tensi white 70x that I wanna make play 1.5 inch shorter so my question is with the shaft being heavy cutting it down shorter with a Winn light grip change how much head weight I would need to add back. Or am I best to see a fitter who can just fit me into a proper driver shaft. My miss hits can be really punishing on distance I fell. Good ones are getting out 300-320ish and bad hits like 250-260 with a m6 stock stiff
Awesome video!! Question.... if every 1/2" removed is roughly 3 swing weights, what happens if I choke up 1/2" on my driver for a particular tee shot? Have I effectively done the same thing with changing the swing weight?
Yes. You can try choking down even more and feel the lightness along the way.
That shirt... I thought he just walked in from a 90 degree day on the course 😂
More like ran a marathon 😂
It has a camo splash built in. My shirts have a more natural pattern that varies !!
Ian needs a bibb before his Grape juice!
Yeah they are not scoring tour pro money ; giving lessons , mowing greens , washing carts .
@@Arkslippy Galvin Green shirts are not inexpensive.
I love the way Matt says he would "consider it"...What's to consider? Longer and more consistent. The ego is a strange thing. I would imagine 44" and no more would be the deal.
It was a 20 minute session with a shaft I don’t even use, I wouldn’t decide anything based on that for my own game
@@GT-1902 you clearly dont follow the channel, matty can hit a putter 300 yards, he has much more effecient setups.
Strike is still king! Long driver shafts are still stupid for most golfers. Also under the stress of competition every factor magnifies. Been playing at 43.75 D2 for years but my golfing buddies are unwilling to change their point of view from the rough.
Tried a shorter driver, 44.75 no weight added. Hit my handicap of 7. Straighter drives off the tee. No loss of distance..Happy days. Great vid, thanks guys.
I LOVE THIS because everyone that has a high handicap are not bad iron players often it's the driver. I went to a shorter driver and my handicap dropped, so THANK YOU for this video
Would've been interesting to see him struggling with the club with a cut down shaft in it without the work to make it balanced, and then balance it. Show off how much the build really matters!
TXG filmed a video either early this year, or late last year, where they changed swing weights dramatically with the same club. Matty Boy did not swing the light (C8?) or heavy (D8?) very well. Worth the watch to see how Ian changed the swing weight as much as he did. It was educational.
Interesting, yet I was thinking the same thing. Don't do all the head weight adjustments to see those results ;)
I would have liked to see that in this video to highlight the need in order to stop someone getting over excited and chopping their driver down before moaning about how TXG ruined his club
That's fair and I would like to see the same thing. How do you add head weight? You can't just use lead tape to add 18 g
this has to be one of the best golf channels for explaining tech and how it works.
Last comment in of all the guys that I watch Rick Shiels Michael Newton you are the one that I would come to for a driver fitting I probably could get a few extra yards but I still need an extra stiff and 9 1/2 is good and I cannot afford to go to Canada right now but you you two are the best at testing equipment equipment on RUclips
Fantastic info!....I dropped to a 44.25" shaft after watching your video a couple years ago, game changer in terms of accuracy & distance.👍
Can you do a follow up video on the build of the shorter club. And show how all the weight got put in it.
I cut an inch off my new Epic Max and it too about 10g of lead tape to bring the swing weight up to where I like it, a D3.
@@Zerpersande but lead tape looks terrible on a new driver
@@downsouth1678 so do missed FWs.
When I got fitted for my PingG400 the Ping fitter put me in a 1” shorter shaft (44 3/4) it made a huge difference in my strike and dispersion...I’m hitting more fairways and no lose of distance!
How tall are you? I'm 5'8 with a wrist to floor of 33"
Great content as usual! Guilty as charged as someone who has cut down a shaft without taking the proper steps afterward to adjust the swingweight.
I play my driver at 44,25, still crap but it's worse at 45+ 😂
tiger hits a 43.5
@@robbrobb659 Not for 10 years he doesn't.
44.5” here and have been down to 44.25” in the past...and I’m 6’4” with over length irons. Not sure I’ll ever go back to anything over 45” and just feels like I’m swinging a fishing rod at that longer length. 😬
Matt, (my fellow lefty)...cut it down and don’t look back!
Ping has been great about getting SW on point with my past two fittings and custom orders, btw.
How about running this test at the lighter C swing weight? For myself, lighter swing weight didn’t make much difference. I liked it.
I agree ! I'm liking C8 right how after cutting down 45 to 43.5 - I added only 8 grams of leadtape so far (that took it up from C5 just after I cut it down) but I never hit it 'just after I cut it down' ...I simply added the tape for the hell of it then rushed to the course and pounded it STRAIGHT ALL DAY ! ...felt like a short iron !
No Loss of Distance - I repeat NO LOSS OF DISTANCE !
Hi Lads, video perfectly backs me up on the 'nonsense' i have been saying to my playing partners.
Got a Taylormade M5 at 8.5* that i changed the shaft to a 43.25" Tensei Red S (50g) instead of 45.75" Tensei Orange S (60g).
Jump in Efficiency from 1.25 to 1.44 average and very similar swing speed (within 109 instead of 110)
End result is 12.9* launch angle, 2300rpm spin, about 160mph ball speed and hitting nearly every fairway i try for.
Thanks for the backup :)
Just ordered a PXG gen 2 driver with similar specs hoping to find more fairways because I often find myself trouble with the driver
This is a great idea! The lighter shaft helps mitigate the swing speed loss and keeps the swingweight up without having to add a bunch of head weight.
Great video, guys. I've been a proponent of the shorter shaft length for a long time. I think I first learned about it from Tom Wishon. It really does work. And thanks for mentioning the corrections with weight and flex that happen when the length is shortened. Keep up the good work.
I am 5’7’’ and cut down my Ping driver. Your Vido gives the feel that you don’t like a shorter driver even with good results. You never stated how tall the hitter is, and discuss any ratio between club length and player height. As a short kid playing baseball, I played a shorter bat. At 5’7’’ why would I hit the same length driver as a 6’ tall players? The geometry and timing is completely different.
Would have liked to see the build of changing the swing weight in the shorter shaft. Great video.
Playing 44.25 its absolutely incredible. So much more ballspeed and so much better contact. Fairway finder. Will never hit a 45 again
Went down to 44" on my driver and I found it more controlable for me. SS went down from 115 mph to about 113 mph but ball speed and length actually went up as my smash factor went up to 1.44 from 1.39. So far its working well for me. Maybe when I get a little better I will try to go back up to the 45" range but for the foreseeable future I am liking the fairway to much!
Great video guys. I’ve been thinking of taking 1/2” off for quite a while. Instead of increasing head weight, could I switch to a 6-8g lighter grip to get the same effect?
Before cutting anything and making it permanent Just grip down on the club a 1/2 - 1" and go hit a small bucket of balls. If you hit the ball just fine and the feel is fine don't worry about adding weight, If when hitting you feel like it's too light, start adding a little lead tape every 5 shots until it feels like you want it. Then pull the lead tape off, weigh the tape you removed and you'll now know exactly how much weight to add without having done any permanent modification to the club yet, if you don't want to add any excess weight a slighter lighter grip can help but not as easy to dial in as adding weight to the head.
Would love to see a similar video on iron shaft length! Keep up the great work guys - TXG is easily on the most interesting and educational golf channels on RUclips 👍🏻
I HAVE A G400 MAX CAME STANDARD AT 46" HIT IT FAIR, CUT IT DOWN TO 44 1/2" AND HIT IT STRAIGHTER AND FURTHER THEN EVER 10 HDC. AND 81 YEARS OLD
Did you adjust the head weight to get same swing weight?
Gents--you both have great swings. As an older player, I admire your swings and lengths. I've lost distance but can still put it out there. I would love to see more vids that show players with slower club head speeds than Matt. Maybe someone in the 100-105 mph. Thanks for considering.
When I shortened my shaft then I tried adding the weight to keep swing weight but then the shaft felt off and I felt slow. I ended up adding some weight but not as much as the calcs say. I think I’m sensitive to overall weight a little more than swing weight. For me, going to 44.5” definitely felt more controllable though. That said, my swing was a bit handsy....now that I’ve changed swing to be less handsy I think I’m less sensitive to the club length.
I've got a Cobra F8 playing at 44" right now. Has improved my strike massively.
F8 is a VERY underrated driver and the sound is PHENOMENAL.
@@Mizman76 I all too often think of replacing it. Then I go out to play a round, like today, and just hit bombs. It's a great driver!
@@kylejeffery89 If its working don't change a thing!
Love to know what would happen if you were to make a 43.5” 430cc driver with a tad more loft like an older school driver, was interested in trying that with a ts4 😅😅
Love the results, just what you'd expect. Even though the longer driver seemed to have the ability to get out there a little further, variability in strike point brings down the overall average. Seems like Matt could maybe be a 44"-44.5" guy. I've always loved the ability to add head weight as well, not only to compensate for the shorter length but to move CG around even more.
Great test....I got fitted into a 44.5, from 45.75, I've had similar results, more center of face contact = better efficiency. Also, I think side spin control is vastly improved, even on slight heel/toe strikes, due to the stiffer shaft result of shortening. It would have been nice to see, a 46.5 inch setup in this test to help the "off the shelf" buyers realize the importance of a quality fitting. Thanks for all the great work Ian and Matt!!
Chris Rogge - Minneapolis
For me personally I've actually seen the opposite of what Matt was saying with regards to more club head speed. When I got fitted originally for my Sim2 I was swinging around 95mph but I had to slow down to 85ish to maintain accuracy. We cut 2 1/4 inches off my driver and now I have so much more control I can comfortably get to 97+ mph with better accuracy (no change in head weight however so that could be a factor)
For me, with my swing and a standard Epic, shortening from 45.25" to 44.5" made me more accurate. I have done a lot of work on my swing and when we are able to practice again to get back into the groove I had wondered what would happen if I went back to the longer shaft. Not sure there is much point from this video
I've noticed with the 44.5" driver I'm playing now I seem to be less over the top which has helped me straighten my slice. Purchased additional heavier weight to bring swing weight back to D2. So far so good.
42 5/8 length driver shaft. Fairway finder no loss of distance at all.
Do you guys ever show what you do in the build shop? I would have like to see the process for this video
Have you guys ever discussed MOI fitting rather than swingweight fitting? Would be interesting in this discussion.
I have an M1 440 that has a Rouge Silver that is tipped about 3/4 and it's a control freak. Can you do a video on the difference of cutting on opposite ends?
Playing the new SZ at 44.5”! Better overall feel. Good strikes too!
I got fitted for a Titleist TS3 at the Titleist Performance Institue in California... We tested all sorts of combinations. I am 6'4" with long arms and generate pretty good clubhead/ball speed. The final two tweaks he tried were the first of the day where he didn't tell me what changes he was making. He gave me a 44.5 and a 45 and compared the results to the (standard) 45.5 ... He swapped back and forth a few times and it turned out the 45" absolutely gave me not only the tightest dispersion but actually slightly longer distance than the shaft 0.5" longer. Was not surprised by more control but was surprised not to lose distance. The differences weren't enormous, but they were consistent. Ordered it, and am *so* happy with it a year later. Didn't imagine a shorter shaft would be part of my solution.
In regards to the swingweight point difference between the two lengths, would trimming 3/4" from the tip and 3/4" from the butt allow you to add less weight to the clubhead to match the swingweight without changing the effects of the shaft considerably? Or is that something you just wouldn't want to do?
Very interesting. Given that my irons are 1.25 longer and i have a standard length driver off the rack, is that essentially like me playing a shorter driver already?
Hi Ian. How do you fit customers for a shorter shaft. Do you have them grip down on the shaft to simulate it?
I play the f9 at 44.25 and haven't lost distance because of the change in technology (my last driver was the original m1). It is so easy to hit the centre of the face!
Hi guys, one more great video. I got the F9 tour version last year, with more weight put in the head. Whent from 102-104 ss to 100-102 but in average gained 8 mtr. And im finding way more fairway/first cut. So works great for me. Big thx from Denmark, keep up the exillent work. Hope you are getting out in the open and play some, now CA is open again. Be safe both of you.
Best regards from Per S - DK
I got fitted by Club Champion into a 45” Ventus Blue 7x for my TS2. Maintained swing speed at ~115 but gained strike and delivery improved.
What’s the difference between choking down on the club vs a shorter length? I’ve been choking down an inch and it does seem more consistent. I don’t like the thinner feel of the grip without the butt end, I may have to replace it with a new grip but I’m nervous about having the length altered.
You wouldn't have the weight adjustments like they made to the driver here. Probably lose a bunch of distance, and probably changes your launch conditions and face closure.
Maybe look into the Winn Dri-Tac LT grip. It has a less taper feel on the lower hand. This may help you. But definitely check it out.
Thanks for the grip selection I’ll take a look. What’s the story with Brook then.....I mean she’s a couple Inches or more choked
Down, why wouldn’t ping just make her an appropriate weighted shorter club????
Paul... saw an interview where she said she grew up doing it so it’s a comfort thing
My old driver was 45 3/4" and I always struggled to get comfortable swinging it. It was mainly a visual thing. Every time I pulled it out of the bag I'd think "there's no way I can swing this VW Beetle-on-a-stick." And invariably, I couldn't. My new driver is 45" and the difference was immediate. The new one no longer 'looks' too big to swing; it doesn't 'feel' cumbersome in my hands. Every time I pull it out of the bag I think "I can really swing this thing." And invariably, I do. :-)
I feel the exact same way..to me the shorter just feels better
With Cobra offering the "Tour" option as a standard - does that mean that the adjustments to the head weight have already been made during the manufacturing of the club?
Yes, the tour version is shorter but with heavier weight in the ports. If you go to Cobra's website you can find the actual swing weight and other specs for the tour version.
Very curious about how choking down on the club affects the shot
5' 8" and had been using a 44 inch shaft in my drivers for the last 10 years, but recently started getting shafts 45 inches. Just picked up a G410 SFT (45 3/4") and think I'll choke down an inch rather than actually having it cut short.
Go old man Pat!
@@fezzer5315 I'm sure Pat has his Big Stick at Standard length.
Even if you are choking down you are effectively lowering swing weight.
Choking down on the grip is the SMART way to go as a start. Try it and SEE if it's better or worse for YOU. Then you can cut the shaft IF shorter works best for you . Much better than cutting the shaft down and then finding out shorter was NOT best for you. Smart choice Joe.
Height makes a massive difference. I use to slice everything and I literally don’t miss choke down 2 inches. A stock shaft is closer to 46 now. I play 44 and it’s literally changed my handicap 10 lower. I’m 5’9 and I will never go back to 46
Swing weight, feel, and balance of a club is more important to clubhead speed than you can imagine. My Driver, 3 wood, and 5 wood are all 43.5"...If I choke down almost to the shaft on my 5 wood, I swing it faster than my driver...which is lighter? Driver consistently 112-116mph...choked down 5 wood 128-130mph...on the same length shaft? I'm perplexed.
AK Anthony Kim One Inch Under Taught me that watch old videos of him see how much he chokes up and still bomed it over 320 all day long!
They even cut all his shafts short so he didn’t have to choke down, and he still do lol. Made the short ones so stiff. He just stick to standard loft with the choke down
These videos always show people bombing the drivers over 300 yards which is tour pro distance. It’s time we saw these with the average weekend golfer who hits a decent drive around 240 yards.
We have plenty of videos like that, just released one today.
@@clubchampionmedia beat me to it.😊
I am glad I found this. I lopped off 1 inch and changed the grip (removed the arccoss sensor) from my Cobra King F9 (D3) totalling nearly 2 full inches and substantial weight off of the grip end of the shaft. Per Ians assessment that's nearly 12 swing weight points, my driver has been pretty terrible since - makes sense because its about C1. I thought it was me, some lead tape seemed to fix it!
Would love to have seen where the weight went, but i suppose that's a professional secrete.
I can give you a ballpark on this. I play ping g400 lst with 69g Oban Devotion TX at 44.625”. The total club weight is 358g, head weight 206g without adaptor sleeve. SwingWeight D3. Oversize lamkin Crossline grip at 76g.
Shorter shaft for a pro golfer,,,,, some benefits. I would suggest shorter shaft for a 20 handicapper, big improvement. I play my Callaway Epic flash at 43.5 and my percentage of fairways hit, massive improvement
Great video guys! Playing Mavrik Std w Evenflow 50S that I will cut 1” to 44.75” and adding 12gr of weight to the club head to get back to D2. How do I do this in the best way?
I’d love to see this with a mid to high handicap. You could probably give Matty a 42 inch driver and wouldn’t see much difference if it was weighted properly. Need to see this test with someone like us mere mortals. 🤣🤣🤣 cheers boys. Great content. Always.
I've done a ton of testing like this. What I've learned is people with faster swing speeds tend to lose more speed going shorter than people with slow speeds. People like matt with a lot of lag and load on the shaft can generate more speed with the extra 2". 90% of players I test lose almost no clubhead speed but their effeciency sky rockets. Obviously it's player dependant but I'd definitely recommend going shorter if someone is struggling with strike
I played a 43.5 inch driver for several years now. I noticed the first few months my speed was slightly slower with the shorter length, but what I noticed was as the years went on and I kept hitting the middle time after time with the shorter length, my confidence grew and I was able to swing even faster without worrying about missing the center.
did u have to add weight and where?
@@samrad1745 yes the driver I used was a Wishon 919 THi driver and it has weight ports in the hosel and sole so I added the weight when I built it.
For a senior, especially, who uses a 3-W off the tee…. Instead of going to the new TM 300 mini, is a shorter shaft and driver head a better option? Love your channel
Yes, noting 2 items: 1. As described in the video, you will need to add weight to the head to get it to 'feel right' (= an appropriate swing weight for you). Remember it was stated that every 1/2 inch shaft reduction is = to 3 swing weight points, and so you know, each swing weight point is = to approx. 2 grams head weight, so if you play a 1/2 inch shorter shaft, that = 6 grams you need to add to the head for the club to 'feel the same'. All just a guideline and you will need to test this for your own liking. 2. You will need to like how the club head looks on the shorter shaft - some folk don't, they think it looks too big/out of proportion and so they have a preference for the smaller mini-driver head; some people can ignore looks for better performance, others can't get past the looks - again, it is up to what you like. I've experimented with the shorter shaft/big driver head combo and it has worked for me.
I wish you guy were in Oz . I recently switch from a M3 to a Mini Drive to gain some accuracy and confidence off the tee. Seems to have worked so I’m now going to try a driver again and see if the strike stays similar and I get a little more distance. May be a short lived experiment
When going from stock shaft 45.75" to aftermarket shaft of 45", would it be recommended to counterbalance the weight in the head? I'm specifically wondering about the 2017 M2 driver going to Fujikura Motore X F1
I play 44½ I'm 5'8½ and I find it way better. It's amazing how many titleist drivers you see for sale 2nd hand because they generally come 45½ and people find they cant hit them straight off the shelf. Mental. Shorter definitely works for most amateur players.
Ok. it would be great if you did your science showing the effect of different grip weights on the same iron . I would driver, but there are a lot more of those in the bag. If you think about it...it's the cheapest way to "upgrade" your clubs. And, when you buy clubs in a fitting -- you spend all that time and at the end it's "what grips would you like" -- without any indication or thought whatsoever of how it will impact your ball flight. From personal experience I will tell you that when I went from MCCs to Tour Wraps (cause I wanted "softer"), it was a huge change and I lost a ton of control and went from 5 yards left on a 7 iron to 15 yards left.
@TXG Tour Experience Golf, with reduced swing weight and a steeper lie from the shorter shaft, will I need more or less loft to produce similar ball flight? I typically play 10 degrees with my 46" shaft, which has been cut down to 44.5".
Thank you for what you guys do! Your channel is amazing!
I think I would rather be a few yards closer to the center of the fairway than 10-20 yards further down the fairway, all things being equal, in most situations. I think I would be able to hit my next shot enough better to make up for it, but if you get out of position, that is where the large numbers come from in my case.
of course it depends how good you are out of the rough as well.
:)
i’m assuming that choking up on the driver and physically changing the length is going to affect the dynamic lie correct? the gripped down approach would cause the head to be upright? or would the dynamic lie stay the same?
Guys at titleist Canada fit me 1 inch shorter, definitely hitting more fairways and honestly haven’t noticed any loss in distance
In the same. I got a TS2 at 44.5” with the extra weight in. So much better for me than standard 45.5”.
I went 3" shorter and hit the fairways with (mostly) 225 and a 10 yard roll< I'm happy
Mark Williams extra weight where. Head?
I had similar results shortening my Cobra. More fairways and overall longer drives from striking it on the sweet spot much more often. I'm amazed that 1" made such a difference in strike.
Did they add weight to the head
Please check with mechanical engineers. The common hosel diameter and shaft tip diameter has been 0.335 inch for drivers.
That tip diameter limits the mechanical strength of any shaft used.
My instructor, golf shaft designer has stated that no golf shaft can be consistent at 45 inch and over.
ie under 45 inch with extremely stiff tip( mid flex) is the sweet spot for maximum consistency .
Great video guys, and very applicable to my purchase today. I purchased Mavrik Max w/a Ventus Blue 6 S Velocore that has been adjusted down 1". What swing weight might you suggest now that it's been adjusted down 1"?
Been using a 3 wood shaft in my driver almost a year now. It has built my confidence back up as it was rock bottom. Am I needing to add weight or does this only apply to cut down shafts. Thanks
Good question considering fairway shafts are normally heavier
Great question.. I’m playing 3 wood shaft in my driver also. Be interesting to know if we should add weight
is there a video that gives an in-depth explanation of the metrics you guys use? I love your videos, I’d just like to understand the mechanics a bit better. thanks!