Britain's 4th Biggest Party: You've NEVER Heard of Them (Probably) - TLDR News
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So it turns out there's a secret stealth party in the UK's political system. They've got 26 MPs in the House of Commons and members across the devolved assemblies. Despite being bigger than the Liberal Democrats you've likely never heard of them (the Cooperative Party). So in this video we explain who the Cooperative Party are, what they stand for and why you don't know anything about them.
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CORRECTION: This script was written & animated before the changes in the Labour party, so we incorrectly said Anneliese Dodds was the Shadow Chancellor. She no longer is, being replaced by Rachel Reeves on May 9th
Pin your own damn comment chaps
@@armadillito lol
You also said that Co-op Party members are only allowed to also be members of Labour and not any other party. This is not true! They can also be members of the SDLP in NI.
Also Croydon South has a Conservative MP. I think it's either Croydon North or Central which has a co-op MP
Ok, but you need to buy a good quality mic first. Audio is very muffled
Is this why I sometimes see "Labour and Co-operative party" on the ballot? I've always wondered!
Yes that's exactly it :)
@@okok72277 Yes so not a distinct party but part or indeed the Labour party!
Also many labour members are members of both parties
@@paulwilson2651 separate parties with similar ideas who have an electoral pact
@@bamalam5762 Can't obviously stand on their own mind you having anything to do with the Labour party is getting dodgy.
I was going to make a joke about the co-op having a school, funeral service, supermarket and political party but it turns out they sort of do
"What are cooperative MPs?"
"They actually help instead of sitting in the back and saying 'I'm not doing that'" - Chris Joel, from the Technical Difficulties
Finding a Citation Needed reference in RUclips comments is like finding a diamond in a rubbish dump
Which episode is this from?
@@isaaccisa The John Stonehouse "Citation Needed" one, IIRC.
A C.N. reference in the comments? A surprise to be sure. But a welcome one.
Literally was about to comment this 😂
It's interesting that so few on the left of the Labour party are part of the co-op party when they advocate for co-operativism more than any other group in Labour. McDonnell and Corbyn wrote a policy which would allow workers of a company or factory which was going to be outsourced, sold-off, or shut-down to vote on turning the company/factory into a worker co-op with access to low-interest loans to get them started.
Great policy.
@@dreamer2260 Possibly as the Co-op movement itself came out more of Liberal principles. And part of the reduction in retail influence of the Co-op compared with Supermarkets (its now basically competing at the Waitrose level rather than the cheap discounters, the Co-op bank ended up with dodgy directors so that basically leaves just the Funeral Business (though wholesale has increased when Nurdin and Peacock ? went bust, so the two wholesale suppliers to independent shops now appear to be Co-op and Tesco. Co-op does have its own farms (as does morrisons !).
I didn't know about this policy but it sounds amazing, could you pass the source?
@@Ellipsis115 Is it not loosely based on that great capitalist successful economy - Germany - the one with the likes of workers boards representatives on the main directors board and so on.
It's called marcoras law
I think New York has a party system that’s kind of like this, with “secondary” parties.
Hi J.J. 😀
JJ strikes again
J.J!!!
Go away
@@zartoon7534 Rude
I've always wondered why my MP ran under "Labour and cooperative", but always thought it was just the full name for the Labour party.
Thank you for the insight TLDR!
Me before clicking: it's the greens isn't it?
Later: Ok, now you have my attention...
Same here 😂
There is an error in the graphic around 1:09. Croydon South is a Conservative seat, he meant Croydon North. The constituencies are listed by the MP's surname, as on Wikipedia
These guys just throw up constituencies graphs all the time and 70% they are wrong
Finally Croydon has been mentioned online. Even if it is just for a politics video.
Also, there is no constituency called "Birmingham" (way too big to have just one MP), and Batley and Spen doesn't have an MP at all at the moment, as of a couple of weeks ago Tracey Brabin was elected Mayor of West Yorkshire and had to give up her Westminster seat.
@@josephbrennan370 A fellow Croydonian?
@@thedarkwolf2525 yes. Although I have never been called a Croydonian before.
The logos are so perfect, considering the alliance, like how bees and flowers rely on one another for survival!
omg you genius
Except the co op logo is not of a normal honey bee, is it? That is some sort of other bee - or it's _almost_ a honey bee drone (which is pretty much useless - apposite!). I'd be interested to know what species of bee it is.
When you said "7 in Scotland" my mind went to the Greens
Probably them and Labour
But it would have been very unreasonable to assume that this channel's audience wouldn't have heard of the Green Party. And not worthy of a video 🤭
@@diabl2master Oh cmon the thought lasted about 12 seconds there wasn't enough time for that to go through my head
Great video! I'm a member of the Co-op party, and there were things you explained which I didn't know. Thanks!
I'd support the coop party if I were British
So every time I buy milk from the local shop I'm indirectly funding a party I've never heard of. UK Politics is weird.
Everytime you use fuel your funding big corporations and dodgy MPs.
yeah with everything we do, the banks/building societies or co-ops we but our money in we are funding domestic and international governments and corporations/business currently there is a campaign for HSBC to stop funding deforestation
@@elliotwilliams7421 They arent dodgy, they just advocate for something the main labour party doesnt
@@isnitjustkit He wasn't talking about the co-operative party.
@@elliotwilliams7421 Fuck. I didn't think of that. I can't win, can I?
Me: can't see the thumbnail
Is it the cooperative party?
Reads description:
Sometimes my genius is almost frightening.
I live in one of those constituencies so noticed their existence a while back, but this is far more than any research I bothered to do on them
I'm from Rochdale, I talk about the Co-Op party literally every day. Rochdale, the home of Cooperation!
Keep up the good work
From ROCHDALE TOOOOOO
I've been many places in the world and all over the uk. Rochdale is one of the scrattiest places I've ever found, along with Birmingham and scunthorpe.
@@madmanjoe1002 Hey Rochdale is bad but it's nowhere near as scruffy as Birmingham
Enjoy radical Islam
When you were describing what the party stood for (before the big reveal) I thought "yrrrr, this sounds like Labour".
Maybe labour scaled up to 100
Not anymore
The old, pre-Tony Blair Labour, that is. More about the working class, less about the filler...
Labour stopped standing for that 20 odd years ago
@@jedaye47 I think corbyn and to a certain extent miliband could've matched the description
It’s a like a secret club nobody knows, but knows from the outside.
i was literally about to make a joke about the co-op party owning the supermarket and then i was told they actually do
"Batley and Spen has a Co-Op MP"
*laughs in by-election*
Might do better if stood as Co-op on own. Would prefer that Co-op signed up with Libs or Greens.
@@highpath4776 if brabin ran as co op by itself she would've split the leftist vote and lose supporters to labour
@@kets4443 Not if Labour stood down (not policy, but I wonder if its time for change following Hartlepool and the red wall?)
@@highpath4776 I'm a member of the Co-operative Party, honestly the greens seem too left wing for most Co-operative members, and with the Lib Dems, well they appeal to more Co-op members but they are on the more centrist side. With all of that considered, Labour seems to be the best fit.
My jaw dropped when I found about this party. Thanks TLDR for another great video.
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INACCURACY at 6:37 "rules bar them from being members of any other party"
Co-op Party members can also be members of the SDLP.
And obviously the Labour Party. I’m in both
A note: The Co-operative Group's members, successfully renewed that agreement and formal partnership, with the announcement being made on the weekend following a recent vote! As The Co-op Party's Co Vice-Chair for my local branch (South Staffordshire, Walsall and Wolverhampton), I feel excited for the party's future and growth; which saw more Co-op candidates at the ballot box on May 6th and a big increase in Labour-Coop victories!
Do you know when it will be renewed?
Again?
Thank you for making this video.
I was lucky enough to be friends with Chris Herries, former chair of the party. She was a truly inspiring person who devoted her life to making the world better for others in real, measurable ways.
She unexpectedly passed away last year. There isn't a day that goes by where I don't think of her and am grateful for having known her.
@Luís Andrade Go and be vile and obnoxious somewhere else (actually, preferably nowhere).
@Luís Andrade I don't like people being disrespectful, dogmatic and selfish.
@Luís Andrade Shitting on a dead person just makes you an asshole, especially if that person never did anything to you & your doing it on a post made by somone remembering them.
@Luís Andrade Regardless of whether being a clown is your job or not, you're clearly a gifted amateur.
Casually flipping the term socialism/socialist around as if you know enough about it to actually criticise it is clearly disingenuous, and quite obviously there for one purpose only. By the way, how is that socialist market economy produced device you're trolling through working out for you? :)
@Luís Andrade The statement wasn't made on an ideological basis, they said that the person was a genuinely good person to hang around and legitimately did some impactful work on society.
Try to be even 1% as impactful on society. Tough challenge, yeah I know.
Love how you can have a logo for the Monster Raving Loony Party in the video but you still can’t put one for the Scottish Greens
Never heard of them before this. But they've got my vote. I might even shop in coop from now on.
I literally had the idea for multiple years that co-operatives should exist, and everything about them, but I never knew they existed, and there was already a party vouching for more of them.
Not all coops are owned by the employees. Many are owned by their customers.
@@0000-z4z So is there a different name for such a establishment?
@@ipadair7345 Worker cooperative
@@0000-z4z Thank You :)
@@0000-z4z A business owned by the community for the community, doesn’t that sound way better than a business owned by a multi-billionaire that hide his money in the British Virgin Island?
My local MP (Ealing North) is essentially a Labour MP that just uses the name 'co-OP' with no meaning.
All his campaigning in the past was based on Labour policy and I suspect 99% of locals have never heard of the Coop party.
However if they choose to stick with Labour, good luck to them as they will need it!!
Considering that I'm a Market Socialist and consider myself pretty tuned in to British politics, I am pretty shocked I hadn't really heard of these guys. Glad that you've just changed that for me
Well you're a Market Socialist so being ignorant shouldn't come as a surprise to you by this point.
*dab*
@@Bushflare alpha
@@Bushflare oh wow, I would feel so burned if you'd made any actual arguments against Market Socialism
@@robertwinslade3104
Firstly, you don't burn people by making actual arguments against their beliefs you burn them by attacking their character.
Secondly, whilst I'm glad you're the type to respond with something intelligible I gotta say I thought the dab at the end gave enough indication that I'm only commenting to you for the meme value so I don't really know what you're expecting back from me here.
Finally, I don't need to argue against something that defeats itself.
*dab*
I'm shocked you've never heard of them too. Any election night coverage will mention them as 'Labour & Cooperative'. It's all standard stuff.
If the cooperative party broke off from Labour I'm sure they'd do well
I would be so excited to see this happen
I doubt it.
I think sticking within labour is actually very smart for a small party in first past the post system.
With ranked choice voting they'd do alright, but with this system they would be lucky to get a single candidate elected
Your audio is quiet compared to other channels by some margin
Britain’s biggest group is currently non-voters - bigger than any single party. Register to vote!
think there are many registered voters who are not going to the polls; need a non of the above box
@@humeragondal2135 It's called spoiling the ballot, where you deliberately make it obvious you're voting for no-one. You can do anything from voting for everyone to an obscene picture on the ballot, but it'll get recorded as spoilt. It's something more people should know about and do, infinitely better than not voting at all.
@@Xentillus Actually it’s better than that. In the UK you can write ‘Protest vote’ on the ballot and it will be officially counted as a protest vote instead of a spoiled vote.
Voted for the first time this year! Its really not that hard to fake your identity and to vote as a 5 year old!!! :)))
@@humeragondal2135 This is a very good point - there is a mechanism for this. You can spoil your ballot by writing on it ‘none of the above’, drawing a new box and putting a cross in it. It’s counted along with other spoilt ballots and can show dissatisfaction amongst voters in a particular constituency.
1:05 CORRECTION: Croydon South’s MP is Chris Philp from the Conservative Party. I think you mean Croydon North’s Steve Reed.
I thought the coop party was a coalition party, but this is still fascinating!
Technically Batley and Spen doesn’t have a Cooperative MP because they don’t have an MP, Tracey Brabin resigned when she became Mayor of West Yorkshire after the recent election.
Me who has no idea on British politics "I've not heard about remaining 3 bigger ones either before this video"
Another great video!
I think the real question to ask here, are they really the 4th largest party?
If their candidates stood on their own solely under the banner of the Co-Op party, would they retain their seats? Loose those seats or even gain more seats?
Ah! Sean Kippin was my lecturer at uni - Great guy and glad to see his work is doing well!
This party speaks most to my political values and I didn't even know it existed.... they need to do a bit more advertising!
For me, the Co-Op end of the Labour party would be more appealing (I speak as a Classical Liberal, swing voter, who spoiled my last national election ballot). I like that it still focuses on the individual, but how individuals can come together and co-operate. That's admirable, and feels quite centrist, appealing to the benefits of the individual and community.
Too many left leaning ideologies, from Communism, Progressivism and Socialism, sacrifice the individual too much at the expense of the collective, for example with "positive discrimination"/quotas that make it difficult for me to support.
I've honestly never heard of this party, but I hope they continue to do well and get more attention. Thanks for sharing!
I hate to break it to you but if you like coop policies you're not a classical liberal you're a socialist
Most of what you hear about socialists is just flat out lies most socialists generally align with the coop party
Keep spoiling that ballot.
Co-ops are pure socialism. It's giving workers control over the means of production; empowering them. And it's a good idea. Just ignore the propaganda that's biased you against the left.
co-ops are socialist...
@@tomfoolery2913 ok fine... so? if it works it works call it what you like
Mic level could be upped a bit to match intro music level which is higher. :)
I'd heard of them 💅
I didn't, and isn't that what matters.
~By a fellow narcissist.
@@ipadair7345 Ha.
Just wanted to show off
@@ipadair7345 cope
@@hoi4noob765 man he literally called himself a narcissist, i don’t think he’s coping
I wish co-operativism was more well-known
@@Michael-mh2tw what was your reason?
@@Michael-mh2tw thanks for that reply, it was really informative
@@Michael-mh2tw thanks for the reply, I understand your reasoning. Though I do say that the monopoly aspect is also shown in Private buisnesses, in order for a Co-Op to exist equally, new developments, and models would be needed for making it worthwhile, and most importantly new policies on education,etc in order to remove some of the bad.While I think the good outways the bad, I understand your viewpoint.
Co-operativism would basically be a disaster as it would make British equity markets effectively redundant. Much of new capital generation relies on financial investors from banks to ordinary consumers. These people wouldn’t be able to trade equity in a completely co-operative system as there would be none to trade and issue as only workers would hold the shares. So although this would mean workers would receive greater dividends off of the shares giving them higher pay, it would also mean that raising funds for the company (especially for any new, smaller business) would be virtually impossible. This would massively slow down innovation for only a very marginal benefit to workers.
@@sharktamer Well, it wouldn't have been very consistent to say I wanted more criticism, and then not criticize. Glad you got something from it.
Very informative, thank you
The thumbnail is misleading as it separates cooperative party mps from labour rather than combining them to reach 198.
Sounds pretty based tbh.
Huh thank you so much. 100% I will look into the cooperative party now and vote for their MPs if one ends up standing in my area.
In a time when the Labour Party keep kicking their left down, its great to see that it seems like we have our own portion of the party.
Also for real, in the US, Bernie should 10000% do something like this with the Democrats; form his own party where you can be a representative of it and the Dems at the same time.
Pretty sure Bernie already does this, he's an independent that votes with the democrats and also part of the Vermont Progressive Party
@@Nukeguy909 Hmm, Independant isn't the same thing since while it does show he's something other than a democrat, it doesn't group him with other lefties.
The vermont progressive party seems interesting but that would be vermont only right?
Yeah, like the proper little weasel turncoats they truly are :)
@@Nukeguy909 no. That's pretty need. But the underline distinction of policy my each member with 1 vote is the key distinction. Not what they stand for.. but how (the methodology) they stand for whatever.
Is TLDR a cooperative or does it seek to concentrate wealth to its owners? Ironically, the video ended with an ad for developing my shares portfolio...
*Hey mate, I just turned 43, and I’ve decided to invest in the financial market, I have over $200k invested, I need tips on how to grow that’s to $1.5million in two years and retire at 45*
Making such gains from the market are actually possible, you just need to be dedicated and do a lot of research.
Quite impressive gains, does this wealth manager of yours work with just anybody? Mind sharing some info ??
that is crazy awesome!!!!
EVERY COMMENT ABOVE THIS ONE IS FAKE TRYING TO PROMOTE SOMEBODY FALSELY. AVOID.
Notice how all the names are perfectly written with a photo too? Too good to be true for RUclips.
Damn, I can't believe I didn't know about them. They sound pretty cool.
I agree
Now they are not . Typical leftists
@@dalfkssafetillity5570 as you can see, as with the co-op, cooperative businesses can be just as successful as their non cooperative counterparts. And give them better working conditions, better hours, better pay, and a democratic say in how the business is run. I think we should turn most businesses cooperative.
@@eugenelubbock5478 So... Socialism ?
@@dalfkssafetillity5570 yup
Please increase the volume of your videos. Most of the time they are lower than other channels. But this one borderline unhearable without Volume Master.
co-ops are based
Never knew my local supermarket was the 4th biggest political party in the UK
Yeah I knew of this party but knew nothing about them. Interesting video.
@TLDR news could you do an interview with the head of the cooperative party?
This is weird, I literally just found out about the cooperative party the other day in my A-Level politics lesson
This was really cool and informative. I love how slick the production is.
This really confused me when I saw it on the recent elections. I was looking for Labour and I thought "The Co-operative Labour" was some kind of con!
After working for them I feel very cynical about their ability to do good. Though the principle: turning capitalism on it's head with labour owning capital is great and could be radically beneficial. They need to be tougher on their managers instead of just moving them around different stores when they fuck everything, for one thing.
Absolutely everywhere you look will dissapoint you. Co-op, John Lewis, Mondragon, they're all made up of the same falliable humans, operating within market relations, with same chimpanzee brain architecture as those working for Google and coca cola. Just because they are co,-ops doesn't make them a worker's Shangri-la. I think mutualism needs a huge boost, bit we shouldn't make them out to be a silver bullet, as you rightly put
@@ollietizzard5180 Yeah. I'd still rather them than the Tories, for sure.
before watching the video let me guess: is it the Co-operative Party?
you got it right
I thought they were a subset of Labour?
@@gregoryfenn1462 They’re an independent party that’s in union with Labour, much like in Germany where CSU is in union with CDU
Weird thing: constitutionally the Co-Operative Party is not a co-operative.
Isn’t this just market socialism?
Worker Cooperatives are ideologically most associated with “Market Socialism”. However, when not the dominant economic model, they can certainly be seen in Social Democracies. TLDR Both SocDem and Market Socialist.
The fact more people didn't know this really says a lot about the state of our democracy.
I have a feeling that the Coop Party, within a few years, could eventually leave Labour... especially with the way that Starmer and co are going!
This is actually really interesting, I really like this!
This may genuinely be my favourite video you've ever made. :)
Only tangentially related I would love to see a video explaining dual power structures in the future.
They're a kind of socialist praxis that aims to undo capitalism and hierarchical power structures by building new systems and eventually infrastructure alongside capitalist ones, and recently they've been growing more significant.
History tells us that those who fight nature generally fail.
@@Bushflare Genuinely don't know if this is in support of my statement or not?
Nature definitely has both heirarchical and antiheirarchical power structures
@@climbernerd5995
The reason anti-herarchical structures very rarely exist in nature is because they are always out-competed by hierarchical ones where they are present because hierarchy is just a natural product of life.
@@Bushflare wait you a totalitarian man, geez. I mean I won't discuss with you, it will just weaken the left. As a person vouching for collaboration in the ranks, I shall refrain myself from creating discourse.
@@ipadair7345
If your ideology is so fragile it cannot withstand criticism then it's not a good ideology.
Also, totalitarianism is not a good ideology either and I don't know why you got the idea that's what's going on here.
It begs the question: If Labour goes so pro-privatisation it actually ends up in opposition to co-operatism, should there be a split/party whip for co-op members to refuse to go along with it?
As a Labour coop member I'm happy with this video x
To confirm from a co-op member then, is the goal to make every business a co-op? If so then why can't you make such a structure be a popular one through free market results? My current impression of the party is state mandated private business structures.
Don't admit it.
@Matthew O Not EVERY business but to highlight the importance of a cooperative approach to business development and that there are better models in business than a purely capitalistic one.
@@matthewo5572 Free market results only reflect profits, not social benefits. Unfortunately, not everything van be valued in monetary terms. In a completely free market (0 regulation), it is the least socially responsible and exploitative companies that do best.
@Tim Jones well, it's not so black and white. whilst many private firms do often outperform coops, it's important to note that we're looking at successful private firms. effectively only 40% of private businesses are successful, compared to 80% of cooperatives. furthermore, coops tend to fair better during recessions. this is even more so the case with credit unions (the cooperative versions of banks) doing better than regular banks due to having more automatic stabilisers (in the macroeconomic sense)
I have been a member of the Cooperative Party since 1972 and was branch secretary of Islington Borough Coop Party from 1983 until 1989 and still a member down here East Kent. If you want a different take on public ownership, think about joining the Cooperative Party.
You know your in britain when everything is called a co-op
When I worked for the Co-operative company they almost went bust buying about £600 million of debt. They also built a new HQ across the road even though there was nothing wrong with the original. Plebs.
The Co-op party?
Edit: yep
Us Co-op party members are the true entryists. Jokes aside, we're always very proud to campaign as co-op candidates and members too.
I knew it was Co-operative before the video, but only because I read a bit about them before the elections
Same here.
Known about them a while back. It really pays to read. Informative video as always!
Guessing this is the co-op party whilst the adverts are still playing
Really informative video. My mp is in here Steve Reed for Croydon North and I never even knew he was
I live in Croydon North too and I only remember Steve reed as he came to my school and is still in power lol.
Thank you so much for this guys 😊
Co ops based
I have heard of them and always wondered the difference between them and Labour thanks for this video
They got Ed Balls with this on an episode of QI. At the time they were the third largest party, and Ed listed all the other minor parties before Stephen reminded him that he stood as a Cooperative MP.
In America, we call this concept "employee owned," while a "co op" is owned by shareholders, who are the customers. I belong to a farm supply co op and get my electricity from a co op, but I've never worked for either.
I did work for an employee owned company for a few years. It is a very different sort of company culture from the corporate jobs I've held in the same industry. People take it personally when they see other workers slacking off.
Interesting.
The co-op party doesn’t sound so bad
Everyday is a school day🇬🇧👍🏻
What the hell is a "Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer"
That sounds like something from a fantasy book.
The UK has two major parties, labour and conservative, when one in is power they form a cabinet, made up of chancellor of the exchequer, home secretary, foreign secretary etc. The party not in power, the opposition party, also forms a cabinet, a shadow cabinet. They have no power, it is kind of like that party saying "if we get into power, this is what our cabinet would look like". For example, the shadow chancellor draws up labours economic plans and criticises the tory ones, despite having no actual influence on which becomes law, unless their party is elected at the next election. Not sure if the USA political parties have a similar system. Oh, and chancellor of the exchequer is like "secretary of the treasury" in the USA I believe
Tbh I thought Cooperative was a subset within Labour
It is. The existence of a separate party is a legal fiction.
well, yeah, it would be hard for what is really a fringe left party to win without the Labour name slapped on
@@matthewo5572 the entire UK electoral system is corrupt and broken, evidenced by the fact you have parties quite literally getting elected in secret 🙄
@@MattyRlufc Yup, although Labour don't have a hope in hell where I live, I do remember at the council election seeing co-operative on the Labour option.
Yeah, you're right, small parties literally have to worm into the bigger parties to get their agenda's listened to properly, often resulting in people voting for things they don't want
You seen CGPGrey's video on Single transferrable vote? pretty good alternative to anything
@@matthewo5572 agree. FPTP doesn't create strong government - it just creates the appearance of strong government whilst BS like this goes on behind the scenes
I have heard of them before.
Thank you QI!
"The co-operative" Sounds like a villain in a hollywood movie or AAA Game xD
Its a bit silly that they only work with labour. I think the SNP and Scottish green party could both benefit from cooperative party influence. It would mean they would have to ignore labour getting thrashed every election in Scotland but more left wing unity the better.
You guys wanna get into co-operatives you should watch Philosophy Tubes video on shitty jobs.
Philisophy Tube has some painfully stupid takes about economics. Watch Unlearning Economics' response video "Breadtube vs Economics". He's an actual Economics PHD so he knows what he's talking about. And im not a Econ101 type btw. He even talks about that in a different video.
@@theblackswordsman9951 love Unlearning Economics. On this issue though PT and UE come to roughly similar conclusions (via VERY different arguments); they both advocate for co-operatives
@@theblackswordsman9951 I haven't seen that video. I just like the way he broke down how some people make money from working and some people make money from ownership. Its kind of the best arguement the co-operative has.
Mm not a great video, I haven’t seen Philosophy Tubes other work, but that video and the one on housing kind of put me off.
@@jacobvanstone6839 are you a landlord?
4:05 that's is silly! I mean they might work shoulder to shoulder with labout but giving them their seats?
Found my new party
So after leaving the Labour Party you are joining.... the Labour Party.
With voters like this no wonder they only offer terrible policies it doesn’t matter.
@@James-sk4db I mean voting Co-Op shows that people like their ideology, this means their ideology gets more of a front seat in upcoming labour elections.
Volume was a little quiet on this one but all in all I'm really happy to get this video! This is such an Important subject; Cooperatives may be one of the few positive movements away from our current exploitative version of capitalism. I didn't know Andy Burnham was a cooperative party member and that has nudged me over to wanting him as Labour leader should he run one day.
So all-in-all I'm very happy this video was made. Really interesting and it's had a tangible effect on my political decisions in the future.
I would love to know what other parties double up like this. It would help voters to make more informed decisions
Most of the similar alliances in UK politics are between Northern Irish and GB parties. The SDLP and Labour are not quite allied, but the SDLP's MPs receive the Labour whip - and the same goes for the Alliance Party and the Liberal Democrats.
Sounds fun, where do these kids hangout?
Well in parliament
You can find them outside of voting stations handing out leaflets. You have to be quick though before they get chased away. Either that or they'll be getting kicked out of pubs and then shouted at by the landlord :)
Minnesota has something similar, it has no Democrats but rather a Democratic-Farmer-Labor party.
So is John Lewis also a co-operativism organisation?
Yes, the largest in the country in fact
Yes, it's workers are (almost?) all partners in the business
I used to be a member of the Co-Op party, very flimsy membership card :(
Huh. Syndicalism in the UK.
I honestly never thought i'd see it sprout up anywhere ever again. Well, to a reasonable size.
it's never been dead?
@@inco9943 It kinda "died" as a mainstream political movement, after it failed to gain traction in France and it was generally replaced by Socialism and it's variants. I know it's still kind of around in countries like Sweden but i don't think that (aside i guess now the UK) it is a real political force.
1:50 The country is called Colombia, not Columbia.