Meet the conservatives the Left fear the most
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- Опубликовано: 25 июн 2024
- This week, the best and brightest of the British Right gathered in London for the National Conservatism conference.
Leading up to NatCon there was much speculation from the Left that it would be an opportunity for the far-Right to spout bigoted hate.
I went to NatCon to find out the truth in a new documentary for The Telegraph.
NatCon's attendees were young, articulate and bright; I did not pick up on a whiff of extremism.
Instead, there was much anger with the Tory Party for its failure to enact conservative policies.
For example, their broken promises on immigration and leftward drift on social issues were two major contentions for the conference goers.
Whilst there is much noise about how the Conservatives are failing to engage young people who are increasingly Left-wing, they have also alienated those with more traditional views.
By becoming a socially-liberal party under David Cameron, the Tories have simply been outflanked by Labour on social issues whilst angering their core voters.
This week, Matt Hancock warned the Tories against pursuing a socially conservative agenda, claiming his former party would cease to be an electoral force if they did so.
If the Conservatives decide to merely become a replica of their opponents, then what is the point in them?
This goes to explain why Sunak's party is so far behind in the polls; if you abandon your core principles and betray your electorate, do not expect them to vote for you.
Speakers at NatCon were not afraid to touch on controversial issues, including demography, defending our history, immigration, and the degradation of our culture.
On all of these issues the Conservative Party have for far too long been on the wrong side.
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"conservatism is in crisis" says "conservative" party that has been in power for 12 years and has done nothing with it's 80 seat majority.
Just sickening.
That's why it's in crisis.
Well, all of Europe is in Crisis, look at the state of France!
@@jaysefgames1155some of the people talking about it being in Crisis though are people who have been ministers in those failing governments...
The "Conservative party" is a cynical election-winning machine without any values. The only thing they have effectively conserved is the Eton-Politics pipeline
The Conservative party has only a few actual conservatives, most are more liberal than the Lib Dems.
If they’re the best and brightest as claimed then our country has exactly zero hope
Better and brighter than the lgbt cult, blm, pro-abortioners, pro-choicers, and the just stop oil lunatics. That's for sure
Better then the labour mob
@@longlivetheboleyn1917 😒
The Conservative Party cannot conserve its way out of a paper bag.
The first-pass-the-post electoral system will be the end of us. It keeps out new blood!
Too many elite privileged/titled twits
They are against preserving the historical character of the UK's towns and cities. Conservative councillors lobby to keep historic centres as carparks. Tacky, tasteless and not conservative
LOL
Why would it want to?
What I would give for “Rampant wokeism” to be my largest concern. I can barely afford my energy bill, Stephen.
concur
I get that, really I do. No one can afford anything but I would like to struggle along in peace. Not having a trans flag rammed down my throat every waking moment. I mean, if my existence is meager at least make it pure and enjoyable otherwise.
Thats true ! We need both a nationalist party against immgration, and a socialist one against exploitation.
@@aribbonatatime i would love to know where all of the trans flags gets forced in our faces are.
@@tomgachagan1347 It's a figure of speech, of course. Sorry, I assumed we were all native English speakers.
So Rees Smugg is blaming the failures of the last 13 years on Labour. Genius.
Sorry ,Jacob, How is the legislature itself irrevocably tied by law? If the law doesn't allow the UK to reduce immigration and the Conservatives have a pledge to reduce it, the legislature (the conservatives) should be acting to repeal or amend these laws to allow them to fulfill their mandate. Where is this action apparent?
The laws against many of the things carried out during the lockdowns was crystal clear, yet they moved heaven and earth to either change them or simply ignore them. That puts it all in perspective when they say that over a decade of being in power wasn't enough time to change the laws or do anything about multiculturalism.
Rees Mogg is everything that's wrong with British politics. A political fossil that waffles without saying anything. This is the 21st. century. The great ceremonial history is our heritage but should be exempted from politics. Britain needs politicians with ideas and the will to endorse them. A good idea is a good idea , regardless which side of the house it originates from. If it helps Britain then it should be adopted. After all politicians are supposed to be in power to make policies that, primarily, help the country not necessarily party politics.
Agree. I had to fast forward the interview with JRM. Any renewal with him involved will fail.
Yes agree he’s a stupid fossil
I used to quite admire him but now I find him increasingly irritating - the answers he gave in the interview were - frankly - pathetic.
Rishi and Kier are everything wrong with UK politics. Out of touch and spineless on the major issues of crime, immigration and economic growth.
He’s a fraud, if TORIES weren’t all so bloody thick he’d never have got past them. They love a spiv in a suit with with ridiculously affected speech. They’re ALL frauds…
The main issue facing the country is that since 1997, the population has grown by 20% without planning. The pressure applied to housing, healthcare and education is ridiculous.
The only thing I disagree with is the "without planning" part. It's been done entirely on purpose.
We have already lost. We should buy roubles, weapons and prepare for 200 years of corruption and banditry. Retreat to the shadows and organise from there
The whole world has grown by 20% since then, the UK can't stop the world and get off. We need an increasing population to have economic growth and increasing living standards.
I think the main issue facing the country is the political class. And I make no distinction between the parties.
100% right there
“The best and brightest of the British Right gathered in London…”. In a telephone kiosk.
that blonde girl is FIT!
Miriam Kates!!??!?!?!?! lol jk
Timestamp?
Shame she's a Tory...
I think the hardest part would be finding a Tory who tells the truth
Or any politician for that matter
False equivalence. Left is heroic , right is villainous. /s
@@VARUNSINGH-ri2he??
Andrew Bridgen told the truth, Lee Anderson told the truth, Suella Braverman told the truth, and the Tory elite didn't wanna hear it.
These issues they talk about I literally couldnt care less about, I dont care about social issues like abortion or trans or whatever. I work hard with loads of overtime and I still cant progress! Identity doesnt mean anything to me because I cant afford my rent.
Its American influence. Identity madness comes with absolute individualism. Left, right, up, down. They're all just identities to these people. There isn't even one rational thought process between them.
since right now that the society is more liberalized and we are facing the issues / problems, if the morals of the society will reset back to its proper state, (no abortion, no more gender identity or racialization of everything in the society.. etc) maybe it will put the society in back in order.
@@marvelstark3797 What is ‘in order’ in your opinion?
@@lilyh7567 a society without the woke virus contaminating some people.
There was literally not ONE single person who the left would need to fear, in this line up.
The Conservative party fear them way more because these idiots are the people who have brought the party down.
Never thought I'd Labour again.
"Im not allowed to talk about immigration cause im white" and yet she wishes that the Conservative party would become more conservative on social issues (which means we dont have to be afraid we will get shut down or cancelled from speaking facts)?
I think sshe was being sarcastic. I hope
A working conservatism is one that maintain the dynamics in a society that it continues to work in a more or less fashion without painful disruption to the stakeholders, while allowing for continuous trials and errors that do not have immediate systemic impacts, negative or positive, to address public issues. Ideally, there is the mechanism for curbing rent seeking, such that those have more does not continue to have more just because the had more.
Conservatism with the above interpretation should focus on uniting and incremental improvement, and not on splitting and disruption.
Who focus on splitting citizens into groups? Instill hatred and anger? Promote civil war? Extremists, fundamentalists, authoritarian regimes, revolutionaries, opportunists do, regardless how they label themselves and which umbrella they are under... real conservatism won't do these.
Conservatism has been sabotaged deliberately
"Who focus on splitting citizens into groups? Instill hatred and anger? Promote civil war?" Right wing think tanks out of Tufton street (at least in the UK). The modern "splitting citizens into groups" strategy they've adopted is a direct copy of Vladislav Surkov's when he was Vladimir Putin political strategist. Worked reasonably well in the US, hasn't done as well over here.
Although the Tories acting like this really isn't new thing though, Thatcher's rhetoric was pretty extreme and divisive to be honest. It just gets significantly worse when they are threatened. It's a move a desperation, all the while they are screaming at top volume that they are the "silent majority". It's beyond parody, especially in the US, the reality is that new technology and the Tories inability to adapt will leave them left behind and split until they do.
“the best and the brightest of the british right” cuts to jacob rees mogg 😭😭😭😂😂😂
was about to say the same thing
@@gavinmc5285 nah, that’s not fair at all actually.
Spineless sychophant more like...
@@melville836 why it’s true.
@@gavinmc5285 That's not relevant or even a skill. Both staunch sides are now about figuring out how to break conventions to best serve their agenda. "understands how rules and order works" is not relevant when the goal has changed to who is at best breaking rules and order.
I'll be her friend.
I think I'm getting a hard Brexit guys.
A common thread through the Conservative Party ‘spineless’!!!
Generally conservatism in the restrictive social sense many see it is often not entirely consistent with maximising profits and productivity in a market, because some consumers and taxpayers make other choices for stability or to limit competitors profitability. Market signals also can reflect other choices. Maximising a personal utility purchase basket might involve all sort of choices not motivated by the cost or the legality. Much of the public undoubtedly seeks pleasure and bliss
One problem that fundamentally prevents coherent action is terminology. "Left/right" and "conservative" have been meaningless for at least a decade. Terms like "Civilised" and "fair" aren't used but are central to the problems that the country faces (which are all stemming from corruption and uncivility)
Mass remigration. British people first. Its the same in any normal country the rights of the natives come first.
That blonde woman can be my mate ❤❤❤❤
"the best and brrightest of the British Right"....... really? one has to wonder if the commentator knows his right from his left.....
"Best and brightest of the British right" = Jacob rees mogg
He's lasted very long though tbh
@@teiloturner2760 He had been lasting since the the Georgian era
Why would anyone be scared of these entitled, upper middle class careerists?
The tories are toast but hanging on till the last minute.
What have they conserved? I don't see what the left is worried about.
While the Labour Party is always stretched between left of centre Social Democrats and Socialists while, the Conservative Party effectively threw out its right of centre Social Democrats to ensure the more lassaiz fair wing of free marketeer could complete its Brexit project (even though there has never been a strategy or a plan to make it work - let alone deliver benefits or recognisable success! ).
It's really unclear what the Nat C ideas can do to rebuild any consensus and maybe runs the danger of following the Republicans down the anti-woke rabbit hole.
The “anti-woke rabbit hole” means standing up for women as a material reality and is likely to win DeSantis the American Presidency as he is one of the few willing to stand up for the legal definition of women and women’s right to safety, privacy and dignity. While the left is burning down the support women have given them for decades.
The Conservative ' Right ' ( not far right ) seems not to have any effect on the party. They should have broken away years ago.
It shows how little they care for the country if they are willing to withstand those nuts
4:17 bro has avoided answering the question like a true conservative 🥰🥰🥰
Exactly like it was a yes or no question 😭😭😭
I'd be interested to hear examples of what Kevin Roberts referred to as "the degradation of the free market".
I would hazard a guess at the largess during covid, the near zero interest rates & QE that have skewed the financial markets and made banks in the US & Europe fail at even a historically small interest rate rise.
the EU
I'm interested in hearing the definition of 'family values' from the men who speak of it.
@@Maja-Danmark
"family values"
Tentative wink-and-a-nod to the happy-clappy yeehah claque of righty tighty troglodyte inhabitants of Plato's cave.
She hit on the reporter, get in there lad
Why would anyone fear a bunch of ideologues with no practical solutions for our current problems?
I remember the Emmanuel Centre for church events : weird to see it being used for politics
Yeah the Tories are finished. The party is over, and now it's time to clear up the mess.
Actions speak louder than words .
If they want to be taken seriously then they have sideline the clowns like Mogg and Widecombe and others who come across extremely poorly.
Lets not forget Bonkers Boris , and Lizz No Trust .....
The conservative machine works through outrage. It has since Thatcher. Made worse by social media, they now generate political support through division
10:08 that feminine girl hitting on Stephen 😂
Our boy Steven obviously already smashed lol
whats her name ?
The main issue facing the country is that since 2010 is we are now seeing the effects of 13 years of austerity on all our services . Cuts to council budgets has caused lack of investment in housing , Cut to schools , Cuts to NHS, fire service, police serve , Private ownership of GP surgeries and resulted in lack of appointments and clinicians rather than GPs trying to do a job they are not qualified to do. Where is all money gone from this cuts . ?
In Tories' and their mates' pockets
Lol there was never any austerity. Borrowing has exploded.
We’re just a broke country, and set to become more so because Brexit hasn’t helped at all.
20,000,000 migrant people
It can't be called "austerity" if spending is still much higher than income. The more appropriate name would be "slightly less out-of-control spending".
9:32 I feel every word that was said. I too am fed up of all this bs.
The Conservative Party has nothing conservative to talk about, we need a pm that will put the UK first in investing in the people and industry rather than looking out of borders to fill the gap. Also on social issues, more traditional Christian values and less woke values like people who can't say what a woman is
"Meet the conservatives the Left fear the most"
"This week, the best and brightest of the British Right gathered in London for the National Conservatism conference."
"Speakers at NatCon were not afraid to touch on controversial issues, including demography, defending our history, immigration, and the degradation of our culture"
No question which side Torygraph alines itself with then ... a fair and balanced report, I do not expect.
Go and tell that to the Guardian!
Growing up as a lefty in a lefty ( now politically homeless for some time) household it was a given that The Telegraph was the Tory newspaper. It should be no surprise whatsoever that they are going to take a conservative stance. They are one of the few newspapers I pay an online subscription for as they are one of the only media outlets to consistently stand up for women. The Guardian who seem to consider themselves feminist have thrown women under the bus. Western politics everywhere is in crisis. The majority of people have no enthusiasm for any of the parties and politicians on offer.
Much better than labour who literally defend the rights of rapists and murderers stopping their deportations.
@@viviennedunbar3374 "The Guardian who seem to consider themselves feminist have thrown women under the bus"
Cite examples.
Watching the first half of the video I was thinking NatCon has a strong whiff of Americanism and was unfortunately proved right watching the whole video. As an US resident I can share that American Conservatism's tenets are: gun rights, puritan Christianity & Laissez-faire capitalism. It wasn't mentioned in the video, but I wonder how much British NatCon movement is originating from, or being pushed by Christian religious lobby? Or even, American Christian lobby?
100% American funded.
Well it is certainly better than Orwellian Lib Dems and rampant Wokism . We have come to the conclusion that there must be something in the air we breath, as the world is now full of stupid people and gross stupidity. The world of the arch nincompoop. is becoming the norm.
And the problem with that would be?
9:36 'maybe'. Smoooooth 😂
This is a circus.
The girl at the beginning hit the nail on the head.
a ‘documentary’ by the telegraph 🤣🤣….good one
The best and brightest of the British right couldn't complete the Sun crossword between themselves.
"I did not pick up on a whiff of extremism"
They must've missed the parts that talked about banning abortion, and Rees-Mogg's blatant acception at the Tories' attempt to jerrymander
Ref postal voting. Nothing to see here, move along.
Banning abortion is not extreme, killing babies is extreme. And then inviting in a bunch of low skill workers as a solution? 😅😅
Whilst it is true that the UK is more polarised post internet ,I don't believe the hard fringe ;left or right has a place in mainstream British life.
Absolutely!
We totally agree with that first young lady had to say , i hope she goes into politics
There is nothing to fear from this small group of people.
Small? Surely they represent a great number of our countrymen and women. There’s a huge appetite for a confident, coherent and unified conservative vision. The red wall voters are small-c conservatives. As a Gen Zer myself, I’ve spoken to many people my age who feel that there’s a real conservative backlash brewing against the excesses of the millennial far-left.
The problem is the “Conservative” party has not been conservative in living memory, and the nature of proportional representation is such that opting for smaller parties is essentially throwing away a vote.
Don’t make the mistake though of underestimating the conservative sway of the people. It will find an outlet inevitably, just as it has done in Italy, Sweden, the Netherlands, Poland, Hungary…
@@ohwellwhateverr Yer crackin’ up!
@@ohwellwhateverr .. being conservative is not a revolutionary act .. 😂
No they don't full of right wing loonies who talk crap
Ahaha I agree with it all, but conservatives are historically people who feel things are doomed. Dostoyevsky, Spengler, Carlyle, Hayek, Junger, Tolkien to name a few. But Moogs conception of a conservative is some neo liberal type a feel again. I’m conservative in many ways but I’m sure as hell not optimistic. The current situation in the west the last 50 years is existential.
Disillusionment is not with Tory or any party. It’s the differential between the past and present which people can’t reconcile with.
The Bullingdon Club have smashed the country.
Douglas Murray conserves his vast wealth, advocating for sending arms into the war in Ukraine.
I wonder what the sample size of the young people they have to select from is? Pretty slight I imagine.
9:59 I don't believe someone as attractive as her doesn't have any friends...😅
I do. But I'd still friend her
Miriam Cates would save the Conservative Party.
Lol the telegraph knew exactly what they were doing by choosing that thumbnail
My friend Joel Crwaford describes modern American cities as a symptom of American "junk values".
I’m a Labor member of 25 years and the idea that National Conservatism is the future of the Tory party is music to my ears. The British public always reject extremes, it’s why Jeremy Corbyn failed so catastrophically. The Tory party have completely failed to grasp this and are lurching further and further to the right. As they move away from the centre they leave behind the British public. Labor could be in power for 25 years at this rate.
Really? For all the ‘right wing’ talk, look at the ‘behaviour’ of the government. Their policies are left of centre. Brexit has not been fully implemented, immigration is out of control, government spending and taxation is the highest it’s been for 70 years and the armed forces are the smallest they’ve been for 70 years. Hardly ‘hard right’?
The tories have been moving further and further left though
The first-pass-the-post electoral system will be the end of us. It keeps out new blood!
@@mrg7405
Bullshit. They have accommodated the populist, brexidiotic mob. That's fascism almost to the letter.
@@davidwasilewskiNo, not hard right, but not centre left either. Just shuddering incompetence.
We simply have no one, literally no one, in the whole of that wasteland we call British politics who understands the importance of borders, language and culture. Are these people even literate?
Oh, they understand. They just don't care, or rather, they make it their mission to destroy those things.
consrevative; complete absorption into selfish cruelty.
What’s the blonde girl name 3:51
Cruella.
Has the country already forgotten Bank crises , when bank went bust ! why conservative argue about the way Labour Party left
The Nat C conference showed itself as exactly that.
Politics is a little more complex than just Progressive Liberalism and Nazism.
@@jonathandnicholson Nazism is when happy and prosperous country.
Ah yes these are all socialists of course
JRM says that we're tied in by human rights law. How does that tie us in? It's just a law that his party could repeal. They don't want to repeal it. They agree with it. They approve of its effects.
Excuse for doing nothing and pandering to the woke law industry. They demonstrated their lack of will with Brexit.
@@dolphin069 I blame that awful woke Winston Churchill, one of the main movers behind the HCHR,.
@@dolphin069 Brexit was/is a fantasy for the Right; it can never be what they wanted, as it requires the EU to dissolve and the UK to deregulate and the rest of the world also, with the UK being sort of 'in charge'; it a religeious idea based on Hard Right neoliberal ideology. It was and will remain undeliverable!
I hope New Zealand politicians are watching. Presently the National party is Woke and does not have an answer to Labour. DemocarcyNZ is rising!! I see this latter movement as very much to the right of center. Family is paramount. That is the traditional family.
Well most of them will be out of parliament come the next election
‘Best and brightest’
"The Telegraph " and "Truth " are an uncomfortable pairing.
What's the blonde's @
We don't need to be associated with 'American' Conservatism thanks very much.
Fascists by any other name
Fascism is honest socialism.
This is so weird. These people just need a hug lol
Yes.... normal common sense has become weird over the years.
Or perhaps they just want the country they love to not collapse and dissapear?
Need a hug buddy?
@@EdwardHohenheim Of course. Not just one either.
@@jonathanskeet5076 these people cannot even define or summarize what they stand for
Is this satire?
I'm afraid not..
It's about bloody time!!
The way JRM talks about the international human rights act as a hurdle the tories are trying to get over and get rid of is so scary
Just because something is called something good, e.g. "international human rights act", does not automatically make it a good thing. The USSR was commonly called a "workers' paradise", but it was the opposite of that. I know that because I grew up in that hell. It's a very common practice of the Political Left to _mislabel_ things in order to conceal their true purpose.
Why? We did perfectly well before foreign concepts of human rights entered statute.
@@gillespaling7039 no we didn't.
@@-Roche- Really? I think there has been a massive decline in our civil liberties after we adopted the HRA in 1998. Care to prove me wrong?
@@gillespaling7039 Sit doon Gilles
Interesting that journalists from left wing outlets were not invited
They are affraid... All of them!
Pretty typical of the Conservative to coin a phrase and not actually know what it means to anyone because everyone thinks it means different things to everyone 😂😂😂
Blimey, it most be bad when the Daily Torygraph opens with “the Conservatives are in crisis.”
To be fair, they have repeatedly warned the Conservative Party they are deluded about their chances at the next election.
Would have been great if NatCon had been advertised.
It was a private event
who is this lady? 3:51
9.19 "and immigration...."
Seriously????
4:04 always resort to putting the prettiest lady into the thumbnail when everyone knows that the whole conversation of which side is better is doomed to hold any value under its own weight as eventually it's policy of individual cabinet which decides on its own the actual decisions.
3:50 need her name
Im here for the blonde
Tory party used to be about financial viability. It's just gone weird and anti-woke and anti-migration. These are ideological issues. I'm not interested. I just want more money in my pocket. Growth doesn't happen unless ur population is growing. Our population is getting to old to support itself and will shrink in the coming years (if there is no migration). Check the stats! Migration = growth (that's just a inalienable fact that this tory doesn't don't get). Can we just have pragmatism!
That's blonde is so attractive until she opened her mouth and then, it went down hill 😢😢😢
Rees Mogg’s suits are always too big.
This is the best of the British Right? After 13 years of conservatives? Jeez.
Ha Ha Ha...not many people in the audience!
Meet the Telegraph, the paper that reasonable level headed people fear the most. For its crass stupidity.
Long live the conservative values!
The conservatives don't have any values we need a labour government
0:09 *Something of infinite value - British passport* Who knows it better than her parents. 😂😅😝
Interesting. Thanks for putting that together
Many nuts in one basket or nut cases..😂
Yes. British Conservatism has lost its way... But there is hope. Fora like NatCon facilitate soul-searching.
I usually like to watch Telegraph podcasts. I don't necessarily agree with everything, but the journalism is generally good. However this one, talking about 'rampant wokism' is more like red top journalism!
It’s a topic conservatives are concerned about.
Unfortunately most of them couldn’t even define what ‘woke’ is if asked. Beyond some vague catch all term for things they don’t like.
@@christianround2774 it’s a pejorative for left wing social policies they believe are well intentioned but poorly thought out
@@christianround2774 there's tonnes of "insults" they don't have definitions for "radical left","communist", "woke" etc
It happens on both sides, using things that sound good to your base but have no definition
@@Skippymabobdon't both sides this. The left clearly spends more time discussing definitions so they can have deeper discussions about society. This often leads to insanely microscopic breakdowns of seemingly benign things. Which often gets spun as "lefties think X is Y"
Why would any conservative want the government in their business lol.
i'd be more scared of a spider in my shower then this lot