Only Veterans remember that the Maokai Ult he shows in the video IS already an Updated Version. I remember when the Zone was local, and didn't followed him. Kind of trundle W. Btw Kindred Ult was a targeted Ability too^^
I didn't know they removed that. One time I play Kindred. I had this teammate who's about to die, I flash and press my ult to save him, he died cause it's just self cast. My teammates spam me with missing ping.
Started playing Maokai when he had the local zone. It was massively rewarding to absorb damage for the full length of time, but also stupid hard to keep people in the zone. When they made it mobile, it got more utility, but I think they reduced the overall damage that it did.
The anachronism of seeing old pre-rework champs on updated Summoner's Rift is so strange. It's like those history posts where woolly mammoths were still alive when the pyramids were being built.
Fun fact: Mordekaiser at one point was the only champion in league of legends with simultaniously not a single stance of mobility, not even a movement speed buff and not a single crowd control ability, not even a slow.
Morde controlling dragons was also not there on initially if I remember correctly. That was updated to work later on and he could only steal champs souls for the first few seasons.
Mordekaiser's old ult will always be my favorite ability. So many times i 1v4/5'd surviving each and every time because the ghost would keep my passive up JUST enough, allowing me to draintank through their damage. Caitlyn ghost had her passive headshots, Jhin ghost could perma 4th shot if he died while on 4th shot, Rengar ghost could jump around, an Udyr ghost in bearstance could stun people, Ashe ghost would slow with her auto's, etc. You had alot of variety for funny shenanigans with Morde ult. (plus the satisfaction of just walking up to an adc if you had liandri's+rylai's, pressing R on them and walking away, with you both knowing the dude is dead 15 seconds later and there's nothing he can do about it.)
Its so fun and hurts to see all these "old" things. Nunus W a Rabadon, yes I remember, but it was so short in this form, that I even forgot it. I mostly know Nunus W for giving Attackspeed and Movementspeed. I play LoL since neary 12 years now.
Remember that Maokai's old ultimate didn't always used to be centered around Maokai, at the beginning you used to place it in an area near you and you couldn't move it, felt pretty lackluster until they changed to always be on Maokai's position
Galio's old w was a really fun one. It would heal him for every instance of damage he takes. If you used it against any damage over time, you would heal to full from it.
Talking about Vengeful Maelstorm. If my memory is correct, there was version where it was just static area, not following Maokai. Ig that time by making his ult follow him not just stay in one area ended up making that skill very powerful.
@@GNCD2099 New Eve has very little counterplay too though if the player has half a brain cell. Even if you see her W Mark on you, she can still point-and-click delete you through MR
I'll definitely be here for the next installments of this series. So neat to look at how the game has changed over the course of the last decade. There really were some nutty abilities
I used to main old mord, initially as a joke, but something about the combination of the jank in his kit and the genuine skill expression with his passive, 3rd Q prep and kiting as a high burst melee mage was really fun. It was fun to play, and fun to surprise enemies who dont know how to fight you, or try to all in a full AP mord (who deceptively tanky, but the tankiness is the reward for skill expression) I played him for the longest time before they reworked him. He is like a Juggernaut that plays and builds like a mage. I love the new mord, but a lot of the charm he had with that jank was gone as a lot of his abilities are very streamlined. I just dont play him anymore. Old mord had a unique playstyle, and new mord quite literally plays like every other juggernaut. It was so satisfying to play a champion so confused and charming like old mord, and actually win. Btw, I feel that way with a lot of reworks and new champions, most of them have unique abilities, but play in very similar ways overall. (Nafiri is a breath of fresh air, but her design isnt too far out there as any other assassin) Yes, new mord had unique abilities, but he doesnt kite, he doesnt have a big macro game with dragon, his tankiness is not tied to AP and landing skill shots (the W cooldown is too long). He just runs at you until you die to Q or passive, or he tries to catch out enemies with his E, like a Sett or Darius. Its not quite the same 😅 I currently main Jhin as although he's very modern and streamlines to not have jhank, he plays so uniquely from any other ADC and is very rewarding. I wish there were more champs like Jhin and old mord.
Mord was the lord of bugs and became a generic jungernaut, how disapoiting he didn't get his old ult back, just loved it when you had a literal pipebomb as an ult, rip good old times
@@Frenchy-Hunter I think it's better instead of bonus stats from killing enemies in his ultimate, they can make it to become a spirit like the old ultimate. I think they can keep the old ultimate as a passive for his ultimate. I think it will not be op if we look at all the new champs ultimate that had a lot of sentences and crazy effect
I started playing DotA 2 recently (last time I played was dota 1 in cyber cafes before LoL), and oh boy old league really is such a different game, you can see a lot more dota in it, then in later seasons Riot started really refining their distinct vision besides ‘approachable dota’. If you feel nostalgic for design elements of the old league, I really recommend giving dota another try, the original vision has come a long way too, but kept the direction of letting heroes have incredibly broken fun abilities. Imo the biggest reason why that works is the item system (and more strategic options in general), where instead of being mostly stat sticks, items let you bend the game in major ways, so you rarely get stuck without counterplay.
Old Fiddlesticks E was my favorite. Especially managing to get it off between two targets with no minions nearby. I get why it's gone, it was annoying as hell to play into, but still one of my favorite removed abilities. Runner up would be old Xerath W. Pre-rework Xerath was, in my opinion, much more fun to play than his current iteration. Rooting yourself for range was an interesting concept, and those instant max range Q's were really fun to snipe enemies with. Overall I feel like that version of Xerath captured the esthetic of "raw arcane power" much better than the rework
@@TalhaFaisal1 I remember playing vs Fiddle support ages ago and he threw a crow that bounced off me and my adc (premade) and killed me, we were laughing so much
one should mention that kog'maw didnt just get a lot of attack speed with his w back then...he also gained a huge amount of range on his attacks (far more than currently)
@@mikeachter12 he mentions it in passing, however kog today also gets bonus range from his q. i just wanted to emphasize that it wasnt just more range but a gamechanging amount of range but yes sorry for being unclear there
@@weirdgw2622 Kog doesnt get range on Q. W passively gives him magic damage, and active extends his auto range as well as adding % max hp magic damage on top of the passive. Q gives kog bonus attack speed; It used to be on his W, but then Kog would get 2 points in E and then max W without a single point in Q and become a late game machine ... at level 8.
Urgots ult feels like such a loss because it's a really cool support/tank ult that was slapped into a mess of a champ and therefore was classified as bad because it didn't work on him because he made no use of being in the enemy team.
I'd love to see ryze OLD ultimate on here. Man that thing was hilarious. You literally got to activate urf buff at anytime, make all your spells do AOE, and get spellvamp. He was the def of late game carry back in the day.
No PTSD from old Infinite Duress? You forgot to mention 4.20 Weedwick where he would red smite you, press R and you died, only the most infamous time in Warwick's entire history as a champion
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Karmas old W was a point and click ability that created a rope between you and the entity you clicked on, including allied stealth wards. Enemies who touched the rope would be damaged and slowed, while allies who touched the rope where sped up. The only other ability that resembles anything close to a similar manner is Yuumis ultimate. Actually now that i think of it they also tacked Karmas old empowered Q, which was an aoe damage + heal in front of her, onto Yuumis current version of her ultimate as well.
I miss Zac's old reworked ult where he'd go flat on the ground and scoop up all the enemies caught in a chosen direction was so much fun and Galio's insane aoe taunt and explosion ult
You mentioned TF at the end. At one point, Gate had a feature where if you cast it while Destiny was active (the former was his E, the latter his ult) it would teleport you instantly. Note that Gate was global even after it was moved to his ultimate and I believe it was global up until some point during 2011. That’s right. Twisted Fate used to have a global flash on a basic ability.
I so badly want Maokais old ult to come back in some form, but I remember it being placable and not surrounding Maokai? The idea of a tank who wants to set up and control a zone during a fight is awesome, I would love that to come back on a champ thats designed entirely around that concept.
What I miss more about Morde was his old passive. The constant shield regen made him such a fun drain tank. I never played his second iteration much, but his first one was a lot of fun.
Even older Maokai ult was only slightly different, it was a ground target spell so you needed to hope they stayed in the zone long enough to take advantage of the damage reduction and possible damage.
pantheons old ult n passive were one of my most favourite thing about old league, especially his degen play style ,point click q go in with w e and win fight, and basically a passive fiora w, full ap pantheon man drop was the funniest shit ever
I loved so much the old Maokai’s ult, you really felt like a battle tank, now Maokai feel more like a sup that spam picmins in bushes and being a root bot, so sad it was removed..
I remember getting a penta kill with the old Mordekaiser R. Melted the enemy team's fed Draven, who just auto attacked everyone to death. It was mad funny looking at it
Ive got a recording of a Mord bug that if you ulted and killed a Jhin while he was in the process of firing his 4th shot, his ghost would never reload, giving him 4th shot crits until the ult ran out. Great Video!!
It's nice to be reminded about all of that. I still remember how i played all of this in rarly seasons. Especially taking out ghost of dragon for the first time was really fun
2:25 Nocturne's ultimate was never global. On initial release the ult range was actually the exact same as it is right now. They nerfed it shortly after release, and then buffed it back to its initial values in patch 5.17.
Old Eve was so much fun. I don’t think I played the game when she had the part of her W where it slows as she breaks stealth, but I do remember the broken stealth. Also worth mentioning that it was reworked again before it became the W she has now; there was an iteration of it where you’d press W and it would “cleanse” you (yes, legit. You could instantly remove “Exhaust”), instantly break the stealth, and then gives you a big ass speed boost. I used it for escapes most of the time, but you could run people down with it pretty well too.
I remember old Maelstrom, played Maokai toplane, had Spirit Visage, Mercs and Sunfire. Teamfight comes, I'm the only survivor on my team, Vlad and Thresh the only survivor on enemy team. I fought those 2 with help of Maelstrom and passive long enough for both teams to respawn and fight again. Good times.
When I first started playing League in early 2019, one of my first friends I made was a Mordekaiser main. When he was reworked, he stopped playing the champ cause he no longer had that unique gimmick he used to have.
Morde's Jhin's 4th shot Loop was quite common, which is why a lot of people remember it, but it was far from the most broken thing. If you got lucky, you could ult/burst a Yi the moment he engaged, meaning the ghost would have unlimited R and E for the 60 second duration, if you where even luckier and his next auto would proc Blade of the Ruined King when he died, the ghost copied that too and applied it to *every auto*, because the old BortRK had no CD on it's effect. Meaning with some luck/timing you could have a 60 sec ult/e Yi that healed chunks on every auto, melted even the tankier champs, could solo baron in a few seconds and was the easiest penta could get.
Ive been enjoying maokai in arena, and there is one augment i felt was perfect for him, and that is the area burn around him, well now i know why it felt nice for him, cause it acts like his old ult
Old Morde was one of my favourite champions. Ulting them with Liandry's ans Rylais and having them slowed and burning to death was so great. Also, once they die, the ghost had your item passives too, so that ADC also now the burn and slow on autos. It was awesome. Im genuinely sas they got rid of thay ability. And im even more sas he lost his weird battle shield passive. I feel like they got rid of that for clarity, but man was it fun.
I remember old Galio ult being pretty fun, there's something satisfying about going in and nuking/cc-ing the entire enemy team with an aoe. It's why i love playing Amumu.
The comment at 2:18 is only partly true. While it would indeed be op that nocturn had a global ult and so on, the main difference was that those champs didn't oneshot you back in the day.
Oh old Morde's ult was beyond busted. I remember the times when you could win by feeding. You, as a Mordekaiser would die over and over again to the enemy Yi or Vayne while building full AP. Then, if you could kill them with ult, you had that ultra fed champion on your side, mowing down their own team.
Things like this remind you of League's old Warcraft III, and thus by association, World of Warcraft DNA. Old Evelynn played almost identical to WoW's Rogue; coming out of stealth, hitting Cheap Shot, then stabbing you to death while you're stunned. Another, and arguably last remaining, piece of WoW DNA is Soraka, who is extremely reminiscent of a Draenei
It's worth noting that a large part of the community thought Evelynn was trash back in 2010ish until there was somebody (forget their name) that started making waves with Revive/Smite jungle eve
I find that a lot of games first few updates/sessions/editions are full of a mixed bag of things that would be broken even in the modern game, and things that would have been rendered entirely obsolete. League had Poppy and Evelynn MTG has Black Lotus I think Yu-Gi-Oh has a few but I don't really play it Power creep is very real in games, but the chaotic power curve of first editions sometimes means older things can be completely broken even compared to power creep
So fun fact about maoki's vengful maelstrom. what's shown in the video isnt even his first version of it. there was once a version where you place it on the ground like an anivia ulti
Another thing about Jugg Morde is that his W made him get ALL of the experience from minion kills, so he became a popular pick in the botlane as he'd outlevel the botlane more reliably
i remember when kog maw would just stand still infront of you and statcheck you and ud be so confused on how riot messed up, this was back before the overloaded adcs were added in and the idea of an adc just meleeing you was very alien
I missed Mordekaiser Ult the most and it would've been the easiest thing to incorporate to his new kit. Keep the death realm thing, but when Mordekaiser kills the enemy, he still keeps the ghost and noth grab the spare change of stats on whoever he decides to bring to Brazil. Also, Mordekaiser items would be applied to the ghost, so if the match had a Caitlyin or Tristana late game, you have a 600+ range point and click slow to a single target that would be permanent as long the ghost hit the enemy.
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When it comes to Maokai's old ultimate, don't forget that it was eventually updated to follow him around, centered on his model. In other words, for many years before the update, it just sat on the ground where he cast it originally. Maokai's team had to stand in it an the enemy could easily walk out and take no damage. Lol
Morde was my first main and I liked him because of his ghost. I wish that ability was still in the game. RIP. I think that Urgot's ult could easily be brought back on a support. They have it as an instant cast ult in DOTA so I feel like it wouldn't be crazy to have in League.
As much as we all miss the old Morde ult, I gotta say the new Morde ult is still a really sick concept. Literally dragging someone off the freaking map and forcing them to 1 v 1 you in a small arena. The brazil memes also made it pretty funny too.
back when you did wraiths and golems instead of raptors and krugs, every new champ didn't have a built in flash on 6 second cooldown, half of abilities were point and click, and you could buy mana pots and stealth wards individually. good times
I remember when i was in a vs against my friends. There was an old morde build that literally crashed the game on a 3rd auto in personalized games. Was fun
I do miss having a pet dragon. I hope in some way that could come back for a new champion. Could have worked with viego, butt instead they went with a dmc character.
I absolutely despise Viego. They had so much to work off and they chose edgy eboy ghost man. His gimmick is temporarily stealing people’s kits and using their abilities but he ends up just getting free CC, mobility and ultimate reset before turning into Viego again to kill you with 2 autos. Like, they had such a great concept ability-wise but it doesn’t matter because he just AUTOS YOU. No creativity or having to actually learn how to play other champs, just spam R and alternate between unstoppability and untargetability every second. Such a disgusting waste of potential.
The fact that past riot shows how great and constructively they was with champions creativity is the definition of tamed fun until the revamp s7 patch the word F for Fun of thrilled excitement was completely changed even with stricter rules and harsher penalties.
i think an important thing to note about old broken champs andnew 200 years champs, is that while the old champs were broken too, they were simple, if eve came out of invis and insta stunned you, it wasn't hard to comprehend, new champions have more text explaining what they do with one W than those champions have in their entire kits. which makes it a lot harder to understand why it's BS.
I loved playing machine gun kog, he was so much fun. Used to be a bit of a pain to get to the mid and late game where he became insane but I racked up a ton of playtime on him before they reversed the rework.
Right before Mordekaiser VGU I managed to kill a Kindred with Children of the Grave, leading me to my first and only Pentakill. It was so epic, I even posted the replay clip on my facebook, lol
Rengar ult currently gives basically the same thing eve passive does now, its not invisibility its campflage. If im not mistaken the other 8 characters left with invis are kaisa, vayne, shaco, quiyana, talon, teemo, kha'zix, and akali*.
"I don't imagine anyone having ptsd from Infinite Duress" Me, who started playing the game right when Devourer was released and got oneshot by point and click ww ult around 400 times because I was a complete noob: "Yeah, sure, I'm gonna go hug my therapist real quick"
I still remember when you could ult Jhin as old Mordekaiser and if he had 4th shot ready, he always shot that 4th shot on every auto
Excuse me????
@@velconx15Old Morde was just fun
@@jdizzy192 It seems so
And he'd nail someone for like 2500 damage a shot for the entire duration. It was brilliant.
Jhin was already out before the Morde rework? Damn, my perception of time is bad
Only Veterans remember that the Maokai Ult he shows in the video IS already an Updated Version.
I remember when the Zone was local, and didn't followed him. Kind of trundle W.
Btw Kindred Ult was a targeted Ability too^^
Yeah I was waiting for the original Maokai ult to show up. I used to play him a lot back in s2.
True, was thinking about it the whole time lol
I didn't know they removed that. One time I play Kindred. I had this teammate who's about to die, I flash and press my ult to save him, he died cause it's just self cast. My teammates spam me with missing ping.
Yup. This was my favorite version of the ult, i used to call it the battle arena.
Started playing Maokai when he had the local zone. It was massively rewarding to absorb damage for the full length of time, but also stupid hard to keep people in the zone. When they made it mobile, it got more utility, but I think they reduced the overall damage that it did.
The anachronism of seeing old pre-rework champs on updated Summoner's Rift is so strange. It's like those history posts where woolly mammoths were still alive when the pyramids were being built.
4:30
Let me correct you, he was not the only juggernaut, but ONLY CHAMPION IN THE GAME without any CC, or mobility.
good point. even garen has some form of CC (silence) and mobility (slight movement speed increase and can cleanse slows)
I think he had a speed boost towards allies (including minions) he used his W on.
@@HaloMythbuster That was added later on in Morde's life, initially he literally had nothing in either regard.
Karhtus
@@adolfhitler4251 he has slow
Fun fact: Mordekaiser at one point was the only champion in league of legends with simultaniously not a single stance of mobility, not even a movement speed buff and not a single crowd control ability, not even a slow.
How he should be
Because rylai was always his first item so he didn't need anything more. And heimer's grenade used to blind instead of slow so he didn't have any
Morde controlling dragons was also not there on initially if I remember correctly. That was updated to work later on and he could only steal champs souls for the first few seasons.
Malzahar? Brand?
@@unlimitedpower978 both have stuns
Your statement at 0:00 is correct
Came in spittin'- with facts
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@@Mvgicalmore sales doesn’t mean it’s better
@@c-milk3327twitter logic don't worry
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I loved that Morde's ghost would invisibly capture altars on Twisted Treeline.
Mordekaiser's old ult will always be my favorite ability.
So many times i 1v4/5'd surviving each and every time because the ghost would keep my passive up JUST enough, allowing me to draintank through their damage.
Caitlyn ghost had her passive headshots, Jhin ghost could perma 4th shot if he died while on 4th shot, Rengar ghost could jump around, an Udyr ghost in bearstance could stun people, Ashe ghost would slow with her auto's, etc. You had alot of variety for funny shenanigans with Morde ult.
(plus the satisfaction of just walking up to an adc if you had liandri's+rylai's, pressing R on them and walking away, with you both knowing the dude is dead 15 seconds later and there's nothing he can do about it.)
i miss him so fuckin much :/
with the last one, lilia with liandrys and demonic embrace can do that (despite taking a few more global rolling balls)
Bro i got diamond in soloQ playing only morde and fizz, good times...
i use to play him so much as well but fuck it was a good rework why cant they make champion like that anymore
Man I used to main Mordekaiser back then. Wish the ult was kept but obviously his new basic abilities are miles better.
Its so fun and hurts to see all these "old" things.
Nunus W a Rabadon, yes I remember, but it was so short in this form, that I even forgot it. I mostly know Nunus W for giving Attackspeed and Movementspeed.
I play LoL since neary 12 years now.
Remember that Maokai's old ultimate didn't always used to be centered around Maokai, at the beginning you used to place it in an area near you and you couldn't move it, felt pretty lackluster until they changed to always be on Maokai's position
Number 1 is Riot removing my ability to feel joy.
Galio's old w was a really fun one. It would heal him for every instance of damage he takes. If you used it against any damage over time, you would heal to full from it.
Or just while tanking minion wave
Oh man, the nostalgia.
used to be ultimate malzahar counter
I used ti by Spirit visage and Thormail and see ebemy ad carrys kill them selfs while they were healing me
Talking about Vengeful Maelstorm.
If my memory is correct, there was version where it was just static area, not following Maokai. Ig that time by making his ult follow him not just stay in one area ended up making that skill very powerful.
the first one was the static area. later was changed to be with maokai
I loved how you could Old Morde Ult the enemy carry, then Old Yorick Ult the ghost to make a 7v4
I almost forgot about Eve's 2-second stun. You're basically dead when she catches you.
Still are if she has got some mejai stacks
@@rexravsten2626 Yep, but old Eve would just need a DFG. No stacks needed.
@@GNCD2099 New Eve has very little counterplay too though if the player has half a brain cell. Even if you see her W Mark on you, she can still point-and-click delete you through MR
@@coldresinstill more counterplay than old eve, new is camuflaged, old was permastealthed
@@coldresin At least you know she's there. You'll have time to react. Old Eve would be right beside you and you wouldn't even know it.
I'll definitely be here for the next installments of this series. So neat to look at how the game has changed over the course of the last decade. There really were some nutty abilities
Those times were filled with of nostalgia
I used to main old mord, initially as a joke, but something about the combination of the jank in his kit and the genuine skill expression with his passive, 3rd Q prep and kiting as a high burst melee mage was really fun.
It was fun to play, and fun to surprise enemies who dont know how to fight you, or try to all in a full AP mord (who deceptively tanky, but the tankiness is the reward for skill expression)
I played him for the longest time before they reworked him. He is like a Juggernaut that plays and builds like a mage.
I love the new mord, but a lot of the charm he had with that jank was gone as a lot of his abilities are very streamlined. I just dont play him anymore.
Old mord had a unique playstyle, and new mord quite literally plays like every other juggernaut. It was so satisfying to play a champion so confused and charming like old mord, and actually win.
Btw, I feel that way with a lot of reworks and new champions, most of them have unique abilities, but play in very similar ways overall. (Nafiri is a breath of fresh air, but her design isnt too far out there as any other assassin)
Yes, new mord had unique abilities, but he doesnt kite, he doesnt have a big macro game with dragon, his tankiness is not tied to AP and landing skill shots (the W cooldown is too long). He just runs at you until you die to Q or passive, or he tries to catch out enemies with his E, like a Sett or Darius.
Its not quite the same 😅
I currently main Jhin as although he's very modern and streamlines to not have jhank, he plays so uniquely from any other ADC and is very rewarding.
I wish there were more champs like Jhin and old mord.
Genuinely surprised they haven't made some weird battle mage out of old Mord, I think some of his kit (esp W and R) had a lot of potential.
Mord was the lord of bugs and became a generic jungernaut, how disapoiting he didn't get his old ult back, just loved it when you had a literal pipebomb as an ult, rip good old times
Not even his ult, the function of his E and 3rd Q, I care more about that than anything hehe
@@Frenchy-Hunter I think it's better instead of bonus stats from killing enemies in his ultimate, they can make it to become a spirit like the old ultimate. I think they can keep the old ultimate as a passive for his ultimate. I think it will not be op if we look at all the new champs ultimate that had a lot of sentences and crazy effect
I started playing DotA 2 recently (last time I played was dota 1 in cyber cafes before LoL), and oh boy old league really is such a different game, you can see a lot more dota in it, then in later seasons Riot started really refining their distinct vision besides ‘approachable dota’.
If you feel nostalgic for design elements of the old league, I really recommend giving dota another try, the original vision has come a long way too, but kept the direction of letting heroes have incredibly broken fun abilities. Imo the biggest reason why that works is the item system (and more strategic options in general), where instead of being mostly stat sticks, items let you bend the game in major ways, so you rarely get stuck without counterplay.
Old Fiddlesticks E was my favorite. Especially managing to get it off between two targets with no minions nearby. I get why it's gone, it was annoying as hell to play into, but still one of my favorite removed abilities.
Runner up would be old Xerath W. Pre-rework Xerath was, in my opinion, much more fun to play than his current iteration. Rooting yourself for range was an interesting concept, and those instant max range Q's were really fun to snipe enemies with. Overall I feel like that version of Xerath captured the esthetic of "raw arcane power" much better than the rework
i remember when the bounce used to kill people
@@TalhaFaisal1 I remember playing vs Fiddle support ages ago and he threw a crow that bounced off me and my adc (premade) and killed me, we were laughing so much
It was so fun to do an Aram ngl XD XD XD
one should mention that kog'maw didnt just get a lot of attack speed with his w back then...he also gained a huge amount of range on his attacks (far more than currently)
He did mention that
@@mikeachter12 he mentions it in passing, however kog today also gets bonus range from his q. i just wanted to emphasize that it wasnt just more range but a gamechanging amount of range
but yes sorry for being unclear there
@@weirdgw2622 Kog doesnt get range on Q.
W passively gives him magic damage, and active extends his auto range as well as adding % max hp magic damage on top of the passive.
Q gives kog bonus attack speed; It used to be on his W, but then Kog would get 2 points in E and then max W without a single point in Q and become a late game machine ... at level 8.
Urgots ult feels like such a loss because it's a really cool support/tank ult that was slapped into a mess of a champ and therefore was classified as bad because it didn't work on him because he made no use of being in the enemy team.
Old Urgot wishes he had new Urgot's R, old Urgot's R wishes it was on new Urgot.
Really ironic.
I'd love to see ryze OLD ultimate on here. Man that thing was hilarious. You literally got to activate urf buff at anytime, make all your spells do AOE, and get spellvamp. He was the def of late game carry back in the day.
the old Morde W was one of the most interesting abilities in the game imo but they removed it :(
No PTSD from old Infinite Duress? You forgot to mention 4.20 Weedwick where he would red smite you, press R and you died, only the most infamous time in Warwick's entire history as a champion
Keep up the great content mate! (Also love the FE Awakening music in the background, it hits the spot 🙌)
I cant wait till you talk about pre-rework Karma, she would fit today's meta so well!
Breh I was watching this while playing Fire Emblem and I could not figure out why my Switch was putting out music even though I had it muted.
12:14 laughed when you showed kraken as true dmg lmao great video vars as always thanks man
My qualms with old Urgot ult was that whenever I ult somebody, for some reason my team stops attacking them and run away instead of bitting em up
And also old Urgot was just a lane bully with his E Q combo, its absurd how he can hit you from one end of the screen to another
Wow I miss old Maokai ult. The Maelstrom was a blast
I remember watching ur content for ms when u were still whiyu, then rotmg, and now your awesome league content. I love watching this channel and keep making great content!
Karmas old W was a point and click ability that created a rope between you and the entity you clicked on, including allied stealth wards. Enemies who touched the rope would be damaged and slowed, while allies who touched the rope where sped up. The only other ability that resembles anything close to a similar manner is Yuumis ultimate.
Actually now that i think of it they also tacked Karmas old empowered Q, which was an aoe damage + heal in front of her, onto Yuumis current version of her ultimate as well.
Man it’s wild that i remember ALL of these abilities…
I remember all the auras that used to be in the game… nunu, gp, ww, sona, taric…
I miss Zac's old reworked ult where he'd go flat on the ground and scoop up all the enemies caught in a chosen direction was so much fun and Galio's insane aoe taunt and explosion ult
Old Warwick built blade of the ruin king? Nah, he built malady, ionic spark, madred’s bloodrazor.
TF's old gold card was also AOE. Sett's w is also kind of like maokai's old ult, but only to himself.
You mentioned TF at the end.
At one point, Gate had a feature where if you cast it while Destiny was active (the former was his E, the latter his ult) it would teleport you instantly. Note that Gate was global even after it was moved to his ultimate and I believe it was global up until some point during 2011.
That’s right. Twisted Fate used to have a global flash on a basic ability.
I so badly want Maokais old ult to come back in some form, but I remember it being placable and not surrounding Maokai?
The idea of a tank who wants to set up and control a zone during a fight is awesome, I would love that to come back on a champ thats designed entirely around that concept.
That was the first iteration. The one around him was the second.
What I miss more about Morde was his old passive. The constant shield regen made him such a fun drain tank. I never played his second iteration much, but his first one was a lot of fun.
Even older Maokai ult was only slightly different, it was a ground target spell so you needed to hope they stayed in the zone long enough to take advantage of the damage reduction and possible damage.
pantheons old ult n passive were one of my most favourite thing about old league, especially his degen play style ,point click q go in with w e and win fight, and basically a passive fiora w, full ap pantheon man drop was the funniest shit ever
Great vid. I wanna see part 3. There's more old abilities that got changed from the league like Draven's broken old passive.
as someone who started playing in 2021 i find videos like this to be very entertaining and i love em. would love some more videos of deleted abilities
Old Sion ult was super fun with extra Attack speed and Life Steal
I loved so much the old Maokai’s ult, you really felt like a battle tank, now Maokai feel more like a sup that spam picmins in bushes and being a root bot, so sad it was removed..
I remember getting a penta kill with the old Mordekaiser R.
Melted the enemy team's fed Draven, who just auto attacked everyone to death.
It was mad funny looking at it
Ive got a recording of a Mord bug that if you ulted and killed a Jhin while he was in the process of firing his 4th shot, his ghost would never reload, giving him 4th shot crits until the ult ran out. Great Video!!
It's nice to be reminded about all of that. I still remember how i played all of this in rarly seasons. Especially taking out ghost of dragon for the first time was really fun
Zac old ult was one of my favorites where you just dive into the enemy team and scoop them all up and fling them right into your team
2:25 Nocturne's ultimate was never global. On initial release the ult range was actually the exact same as it is right now. They nerfed it shortly after release, and then buffed it back to its initial values in patch 5.17.
8:42 the Kogmaw in the background not taking the lantern infuriates me
shoutout to the warwick player at 3:34 for roleplaying as yamcha in the chat before ulting
Please make more of these. But yes space them out. This is a good high potential series
Old Eve was so much fun. I don’t think I played the game when she had the part of her W where it slows as she breaks stealth, but I do remember the broken stealth. Also worth mentioning that it was reworked again before it became the W she has now; there was an iteration of it where you’d press W and it would “cleanse” you (yes, legit. You could instantly remove “Exhaust”), instantly break the stealth, and then gives you a big ass speed boost. I used it for escapes most of the time, but you could run people down with it pretty well too.
I remember old Maelstrom, played Maokai toplane, had Spirit Visage, Mercs and Sunfire. Teamfight comes, I'm the only survivor on my team, Vlad and Thresh the only survivor on enemy team. I fought those 2 with help of Maelstrom and passive long enough for both teams to respawn and fight again. Good times.
Man seeing bjergsen play old urgot is such a throwback
When I first started playing League in early 2019, one of my first friends I made was a Mordekaiser main. When he was reworked, he stopped playing the champ cause he no longer had that unique gimmick he used to have.
Morde's Jhin's 4th shot Loop was quite common, which is why a lot of people remember it, but it was far from the most broken thing.
If you got lucky, you could ult/burst a Yi the moment he engaged, meaning the ghost would have unlimited R and E for the 60 second duration, if you where even luckier and his next auto would proc Blade of the Ruined King when he died, the ghost copied that too and applied it to *every auto*, because the old BortRK had no CD on it's effect.
Meaning with some luck/timing you could have a 60 sec ult/e Yi that healed chunks on every auto, melted even the tankier champs, could solo baron in a few seconds and was the easiest penta could get.
Honestly, old morde ult could work now! Now that we have the berserk status affect, it has the potential to work again!
Great video! Thanks for the good work!
love this video series keep it up!
More!!! The amount of nostalgia these are especially Kog'Maw and Morde!
In that short period where Kog’Maw had the double attack speed, he could jungle really well. Double the machete on hit for camps.
Ive been enjoying maokai in arena, and there is one augment i felt was perfect for him, and that is the area burn around him, well now i know why it felt nice for him, cause it acts like his old ult
Feral Ww, old fiora, Darius, maokai(with the ult on the ground), irelia and morde(all versions) were my most played back in the day
12:13 "and the true damage we have today *shows kraken*"
IF ONLY
Old Morde was one of my favourite champions. Ulting them with Liandry's ans Rylais and having them slowed and burning to death was so great. Also, once they die, the ghost had your item passives too, so that ADC also now the burn and slow on autos. It was awesome. Im genuinely sas they got rid of thay ability. And im even more sas he lost his weird battle shield passive. I feel like they got rid of that for clarity, but man was it fun.
Maokai's Old Ult made him a both a monster and super fun to play on ARAM. Though I do also miss playing the old Urgot as Support with his homing Q's.
I remember old Galio ult being pretty fun, there's something satisfying about going in and nuking/cc-ing the entire enemy team with an aoe. It's why i love playing Amumu.
The comment at 2:18 is only partly true. While it would indeed be op that nocturn had a global ult and so on, the main difference was that those champs didn't oneshot you back in the day.
nostalgia hits hard with these, remember them "foundly"
Oh old Morde's ult was beyond busted. I remember the times when you could win by feeding. You, as a Mordekaiser would die over and over again to the enemy Yi or Vayne while building full AP. Then, if you could kill them with ult, you had that ultra fed champion on your side, mowing down their own team.
Things like this remind you of League's old Warcraft III, and thus by association, World of Warcraft DNA. Old Evelynn played almost identical to WoW's Rogue; coming out of stealth, hitting Cheap Shot, then stabbing you to death while you're stunned. Another, and arguably last remaining, piece of WoW DNA is Soraka, who is extremely reminiscent of a Draenei
I just found this channel, now I have something to binge watch
old mordes final Q strike would hit like an actual truck
It's worth noting that a large part of the community thought Evelynn was trash back in 2010ish until there was somebody (forget their name) that started making waves with Revive/Smite jungle eve
I find that a lot of games first few updates/sessions/editions are full of a mixed bag of things that would be broken even in the modern game, and things that would have been rendered entirely obsolete.
League had Poppy and Evelynn
MTG has Black Lotus
I think Yu-Gi-Oh has a few but I don't really play it
Power creep is very real in games, but the chaotic power curve of first editions sometimes means older things can be completely broken even compared to power creep
yugioh had delinquent duo, the forceful sentry, yatalock...
So fun fact about maoki's vengful maelstrom. what's shown in the video isnt even his first version of it. there was once a version where you place it on the ground like an anivia ulti
Another thing about Jugg Morde is that his W made him get ALL of the experience from minion kills, so he became a popular pick in the botlane as he'd outlevel the botlane more reliably
i remember when kog maw would just stand still infront of you and statcheck you and ud be so confused on how riot messed up, this was back before the overloaded adcs were added in and the idea of an adc just meleeing you was very alien
I missed Mordekaiser Ult the most and it would've been the easiest thing to incorporate to his new kit.
Keep the death realm thing, but when Mordekaiser kills the enemy, he still keeps the ghost and noth grab the spare change of stats on whoever he decides to bring to Brazil.
Also, Mordekaiser items would be applied to the ghost, so if the match had a Caitlyin or Tristana late game, you have a 600+ range point and click slow to a single target that would be permanent as long the ghost hit the enemy.
Dude dropped a nuclear bomb at the beginning and acted like it was nothing
Im so glad that someone recognizes the superiority of the whopper to the big mac. McDonald's Big Mac is carried solely by its sauce- the rest of the burger is a whimpy dry mess, held together solely by its sauce. Whoppers have fresher ingredients, frozen and delivered to the restaurant. The green is greener and crisper, and its ingredients are on average of a higher quality. Each ingredient pulls its weight.
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When it comes to Maokai's old ultimate, don't forget that it was eventually updated to follow him around, centered on his model.
In other words, for many years before the update, it just sat on the ground where he cast it originally. Maokai's team had to stand in it an the enemy could easily walk out and take no damage. Lol
Morde was my first main and I liked him because of his ghost. I wish that ability was still in the game. RIP.
I think that Urgot's ult could easily be brought back on a support. They have it as an instant cast ult in DOTA so I feel like it wouldn't be crazy to have in League.
It's such a weird feeling to see a vide about old removed abilities but these abilities were the new reworked version back in the day.
As much as we all miss the old Morde ult, I gotta say the new Morde ult is still a really sick concept. Literally dragging someone off the freaking map and forcing them to 1 v 1 you in a small arena. The brazil memes also made it pretty funny too.
back when you did wraiths and golems instead of raptors and krugs, every new champ didn't have a built in flash on 6 second cooldown, half of abilities were point and click, and you could buy mana pots and stealth wards individually. good times
I remember when i was in a vs against my friends. There was an old morde build that literally crashed the game on a 3rd auto in personalized games. Was fun
I do miss having a pet dragon. I hope in some way that could come back for a new champion. Could have worked with viego, butt instead they went with a dmc character.
I absolutely despise Viego. They had so much to work off and they chose edgy eboy ghost man. His gimmick is temporarily stealing people’s kits and using their abilities but he ends up just getting free CC, mobility and ultimate reset before turning into Viego again to kill you with 2 autos.
Like, they had such a great concept ability-wise but it doesn’t matter because he just AUTOS YOU. No creativity or having to actually learn how to play other champs, just spam R and alternate between unstoppability and untargetability every second. Such a disgusting waste of potential.
The fact that past riot shows how great and constructively they was with champions creativity is the definition of tamed fun until the revamp s7 patch the word F for Fun of thrilled excitement was completely changed even with stricter rules and harsher penalties.
i think an important thing to note about old broken champs andnew 200 years champs, is that while the old champs were broken too, they were simple, if eve came out of invis and insta stunned you, it wasn't hard to comprehend, new champions have more text explaining what they do with one W than those champions have in their entire kits. which makes it a lot harder to understand why it's BS.
I loved playing machine gun kog, he was so much fun. Used to be a bit of a pain to get to the mid and late game where he became insane but I racked up a ton of playtime on him before they reversed the rework.
Right before Mordekaiser VGU I managed to kill a Kindred with Children of the Grave, leading me to my first and only Pentakill. It was so epic, I even posted the replay clip on my facebook, lol
Rengar ult currently gives basically the same thing eve passive does now, its not invisibility its campflage. If im not mistaken the other 8 characters left with invis are kaisa, vayne, shaco, quiyana, talon, teemo, kha'zix, and akali*.
"I don't imagine anyone having ptsd from Infinite Duress"
Me, who started playing the game right when Devourer was released and got oneshot by point and click ww ult around 400 times because I was a complete noob: "Yeah, sure, I'm gonna go hug my therapist real quick"
i think old urgot ult on a new vanguard would just be the best like a no mobility tank
That version of Morde was my favourite, mainly due to the Q, the sound and feel it had were nice
Can't wait for old ap Trist with point and click burn on E. Also nice music choice
I remember playing old warwick, rushing wits end as first item always, somehow the fun I had no matter what was enormous