Kh1 -> com - kh2 is basically a perfect trilogy which doesnt get TOO off the tracks, showcases a wide emotional spectrum (roxas and namime aaaaaa), and generally ends on an easy and uplifting note. Hell, keep days around and just remove the ventus tease
Kingdom Hearts is the kind of game you're supposed to come for the gameplay and stick around for the story. I came for the gameplay and stuck around for the gameplay.
i do not mind kingdom hearts continuing besides the concept of kingdom hearts nobody's was always going to get expanded on explaining who their human selves were before becoming nobody's in the first place.if you can complain kingdom hearts 2 was the ending then remove the nobody concept completely to get your ending conclusion, in my opinion nobody's should not exist since it started this double body mess.
@@1BadAssArchAngelvs14 I agree that the concept of nobodys is interesting, and that the double body mess is a whole can of worms. But they could've had it set to where Xehanort was destroyed completely after the nobody and heartless versions were destroyed. I don't hate the other games, but i just personally think ending the series at 2 would have been a more satisfying ending. If we were to make a compromise i would say at least end it with 3. I think BBS is very interesting, and i loved the lead up to 3 before the game came out. But KH3 itself had one of the most unsatisfying endings I've ever experienced. Every problem in the series gets solved in like 30 minutes at the end of the game, and then they basically forgive Xehanort for all of the evil things he's done. It just feels rushed and not satisfying to play through at all. I think the idea of the realm of fiction is interesting as well, and i'm hoping they do something very cool with it in KH4. I want KH4 and the rest of the series to be great, but after 3 my expectations are very low for what they'll do.
@@noxasorsomething The thing with xehanort is that he lost all his keybalde wielder friends to darkness, in xehanorts own reality xehanort should of just let go of the past and move forward instead of trying to reset both light and darkness thus plan on resseting all of the worlds with the X-Blade keyblade to get his old friends back.
Imagine making characters deaths emotional and suddenly reviving 95 per cent of them just to make those meaningless when thought they were genuine for those characters you felt sorry for. Dream Drop Distance destroyed any care I had for the characters at this point. You create a personality, make them die, just to revivie them later and make their deaths so meaningless. Characters deaths also tend to make us enjoy the moments we can have replaying some specific games where they only appear once never to be seen again. Nomura got lazy in terms of writing lol. And the famous: "Oh my God it wasn't their original plan, plot twist, plot twist they have another goal and it was calculated" started getting super old.
KH is such a fascinating series and I like the focus that each game has. KH1 focuses on the Heartless and the Disney Villains. KH2 focuses on the Nobodies led by Organization XIII. BBS on the tragedy of 3 Keyblade Masters in their struggle vs the Main Antagonist. I do wish the overall plot and story weren't so convoluted and messy. Despite its Disney-Magic silliness, KH1's plot with the Heartless was the easiest to follow. After that, everything became MORE AND MORE absurd with each game. KH2 is still GOAT-ed for me, and I especially like all the original characters that series has (Sora, Riku, Kairi, Terra, Aqua, Ventus, Vanitas, Xehanort and all of the members of Organization XIII).
Yeah. In my opinion, the series peaked with KH2. Every other game after never comes close, especially KH3. The fact that the series is still going, feels like they're just beating a dead horse at this point.
Yeah i feel that. I've been keeping up with some of the updates for KH4 and im hopeful. It seems this time around they'll be focusing more on the final fantasy aspects and way less on the Disney ones. i think Disney sabotaged kh3 and made it more of a commercial as opposed to a kingdom hearts game.
I agree after kh2 I start to be more confusing with the plot and so many information that I wasn't really interested in along with other characters didn't excite me to stay invest like roxas, axel and sora along his human friends he grew up and his animal companions he start his journey with in the first kingdom hearts game I wish the series ended with kh2 as it seem like perfect finale to me where the feels hit where kairi welcome sora home at their island
I agree with most of your points cuz so many things in this series are so unnecessarily complicated and convoluded for literally no reason like the stupid 13 Xeanorts is the dumbest thing in this series. However, I don't wish it ended at the end of Kingdom hearts 2 simply because then you don't have the Wayfinder Trio aka The PTSD trio who are some of the most interesting characters in the game. I think after Kingdom Hearts 2 instead of whatever the hell they introduced with stupid Dream Drop Distance. The series should've continued with Sora, Riku, and Kairi all becoming keyblade masters to rescue both the Sea Salt Trio and The Wayfinder Trio as well as Namine so that they can unite all the keyblade wielders together and save Kingdom Hearts from darkness. The series then ends with the nine of them becoming the protectors of Kingdom Hearts and protecting the realms from darkness. But that's just my opinion where you can still keep the good stuff beyond Kingdom Hearts 2 and get rid of all the unnecessary time travel, replica, and clone shinanagins. Boy that was long...
I agree! I like BBS a lot, but everything after that wasn't very good. Giving those characters more of a well thought out conclusion, and a more satisfying end to the Xehanort fight would have been great. I like the idea of Xehanort coming back after his heartless and nobody are killed, but once he started turning people into his vessels and the time travel stuff got introduced, it became so bloated. I also wish that Sora had more of a personality in KH3, he feels like hes lobotomized the entire game.
@@noxasorsomething That's a fair point. The characters are the reason I like this game. I think the plot sucks because it's filled with so many holes and so many things don't make sense. I liked the Kingdom Hearts 3 gameplay and how it felt more like an open world. Story-wise it definetly felt rushed and like they were trying to shove a bunch of conclusions into one game (*cough* much like a very overrated marvel movie I know of *cough*) but anyways I think the Re-Mind DLC fixed a lot of my problems with Kingdom Hearts 3 plus Kairi got to actually do stuff and be a playable character for once. I also just love Aqua so much she's the best character in my opinion. But yeah I agree that I didn't really mind the Xeanort coming back after his heartless and nobody were destroyed. It was the time travel and 13 Xeanort clones that was really stupid.
Agreed. I stopped playing the series after I beat 2, and have had no urge to pick up the series since then. I have a friend who continues to play the series, and listening to him explain it makes me so happy i quit early on.
maaaaaaan, all i said is it would have made more sense to end the series there instead of adding a prequel, a prequel to that prequel, a third game, and a two-three games between the 2nd and 3rd one. I liked birth by sleep, but everything after that hasn't been the best. I've been following the development of kh4 though, and I'm hopeful. I hope it's one of the better games they make.
Xion, Axel, Most main characters in BBS: (but yeah ignoring everything they put in the final mix version of 2 this would've kept the series less tangled in its own plot)
Sorry, but No knowing who Sora is he wouldn't be okay with letting Roxas and Namine not be their own people. it's a okay ending with certain things if you take look at who Sora is it makes 0 sense to have it end there.
I really hate nostalgia people. Kh2 was my first kh game. I love it. But I'm not gonna let greed and hate blind me. I love kh3. You think its ok sora, riku, and kairi goes home and that Aqua is still in the realm of darkness? Terra still with xehnaort? And ventus still asleep? How selfish can you be? And don't get me started on khux. All those kids died for the war. Damn. These kh fans are starting to be so selfish. 😊
@SittinGamer so if the story ended with Days, then they would've already opened Pandora's box with the kh2 and 2fm Secret Endings showing off Terra, Aqua, and especially Ventus. Even if you remove those, Days itself also teases BBS with Xion reflecting Ventus's image when Xigbar looks at her. And even then, is the idea that Roxas doesnt deserve to be his own person (as it was left off at in kh2) and that Xion remains forgotten really satisfying? Its a tragic ending, and tragic endings can be satisfying, but for the kind of story KH wants to tell, and with the themes it explores, does all that really track?
@@SittinGameralso! With the introduction of Master Yen Sid, we know Keyblade Masters are a thing, and can infer that there's some kind of process or lineage for keyblade wielders, and one would have to wonder how Riku forged the kingdom key while being stuck on an island his whole life And, there's also that Apprentice TerraNort, as said in the Ansem Reports, was able to open the door to Radiant Garden's heart.....something he would likely be unable to do without a keyblade. Which opens up its own can of worms regarding keyblade wielding societies
Roxas and Namines fate did suck, but that was kinda what made their fate interesting. Two characters who were never suppose to exist, and them having to come to terms with that. When Roxas talked about his summer vacation ending it would break my heart. I'm incredibly glad they both get a happy ending at the end of 3, but i wish they would have taken more time with it or something.
Cheeks in a slightly interesting way. I love the KH original characters, but nothing takes me out of it more than seeing mickey mouse show up in a trench coat talking about "The Door to Darkness".
I love the franchise, I've bought every game and played them religiously. I think the game play is great, and KH2 is one of my favorite games of all time. I'm not saying the other games are bad, i like BBS and was really invested in their fate leading up to 3. I just think ending the games at 2 would have been simpler. KH3 had one of the least satisfying endings in my opinion. It wrapped up all the characters problems towards the end of the game in what felt like a really rushed, half ass way. Characters that had been though hell like Roxas, and Terra were just all of a sudden chilling. I love the series and think the first few games are incredibly charming. I'm just making a silly video, poking fun at a few things and saying that it would have been simpler to end the series at 2. It would have felt satisfying, and been easier to understand.
The fact I already knew all of this slightly worries me, Nomura has done irreversible damage to me
Kh1 -> com - kh2 is basically a perfect trilogy which doesnt get TOO off the tracks, showcases a wide emotional spectrum (roxas and namime aaaaaa), and generally ends on an easy and uplifting note. Hell, keep days around and just remove the ventus tease
Kingdom Hearts is the kind of game you're supposed to come for the gameplay and stick around for the story. I came for the gameplay and stuck around for the gameplay.
I agree, the KH2 boss fights added in Remix are especially fantastic. Critical mode as well is a ton of fun
Honestly Birth by Sleep should have been its own thing. like a spinoff but it is a prequel
"I love this series but I think it made me dumber" 😂
I got very lazy with the editing, i apologize. It is very tedious, or should i say.... "TIDDDDUSS"
i do not mind kingdom hearts continuing besides the concept of kingdom hearts nobody's was always going to get expanded on explaining who their human selves were before becoming nobody's in the first place.if you can complain kingdom hearts 2 was the ending then remove the nobody concept completely to get your ending conclusion, in my opinion nobody's should not exist since it started this double body mess.
@@1BadAssArchAngelvs14 I agree that the concept of nobodys is interesting, and that the double body mess is a whole can of worms. But they could've had it set to where Xehanort was destroyed completely after the nobody and heartless versions were destroyed. I don't hate the other games, but i just personally think ending the series at 2 would have been a more satisfying ending. If we were to make a compromise i would say at least end it with 3. I think BBS is very interesting, and i loved the lead up to 3 before the game came out. But KH3 itself had one of the most unsatisfying endings I've ever experienced. Every problem in the series gets solved in like 30 minutes at the end of the game, and then they basically forgive Xehanort for all of the evil things he's done. It just feels rushed and not satisfying to play through at all. I think the idea of the realm of fiction is interesting as well, and i'm hoping they do something very cool with it in KH4. I want KH4 and the rest of the series to be great, but after 3 my expectations are very low for what they'll do.
@@noxasorsomething The thing with xehanort is that he lost all his keybalde wielder friends to darkness, in xehanorts own reality xehanort should of just let go of the past and move forward instead of trying to reset both light and darkness thus plan on resseting all of the worlds with the X-Blade keyblade to get his old friends back.
Imagine making characters deaths emotional and suddenly reviving 95 per cent of them just to make those meaningless when thought they were genuine for those characters you felt sorry for.
Dream Drop Distance destroyed any care I had for the characters at this point. You create a personality, make them die, just to revivie them later and make their deaths so meaningless. Characters deaths also tend to make us enjoy the moments we can have replaying some specific games where they only appear once never to be seen again. Nomura got lazy in terms of writing lol. And the famous: "Oh my God it wasn't their original plan, plot twist, plot twist they have another goal and it was calculated" started getting super old.
Absolutely agree
KH is such a fascinating series and I like the focus that each game has.
KH1 focuses on the Heartless and the Disney Villains.
KH2 focuses on the Nobodies led by Organization XIII.
BBS on the tragedy of 3 Keyblade Masters in their struggle vs the Main Antagonist.
I do wish the overall plot and story weren't so convoluted and messy.
Despite its Disney-Magic silliness, KH1's plot with the Heartless was the easiest to follow.
After that, everything became MORE AND MORE absurd with each game.
KH2 is still GOAT-ed for me, and I especially like all the original characters that series has (Sora, Riku, Kairi, Terra, Aqua, Ventus, Vanitas, Xehanort and all of the members of Organization XIII).
Yeah. In my opinion, the series peaked with KH2. Every other game after never comes close, especially KH3.
The fact that the series is still going, feels like they're just beating a dead horse at this point.
Yeah i feel that. I've been keeping up with some of the updates for KH4 and im hopeful. It seems this time around they'll be focusing more on the final fantasy aspects and way less on the Disney ones. i think Disney sabotaged kh3 and made it more of a commercial as opposed to a kingdom hearts game.
I agree after kh2 I start to be more confusing with the plot and so many information that I wasn't really interested in along with other characters didn't excite me to stay invest like roxas, axel and sora along his human friends he grew up and his animal companions he start his journey with in the first kingdom hearts game I wish the series ended with kh2 as it seem like perfect finale to me where the feels hit where kairi welcome sora home at their island
I agree with most of your points cuz so many things in this series are so unnecessarily complicated and convoluded for literally no reason like the stupid 13 Xeanorts is the dumbest thing in this series.
However, I don't wish it ended at the end of Kingdom hearts 2 simply because then you don't have the Wayfinder Trio aka The PTSD trio who are some of the most interesting characters in the game. I think after Kingdom Hearts 2 instead of whatever the hell they introduced with stupid Dream Drop Distance. The series should've continued with Sora, Riku, and Kairi all becoming keyblade masters to rescue both the Sea Salt Trio and The Wayfinder Trio as well as Namine so that they can unite all the keyblade wielders together and save Kingdom Hearts from darkness.
The series then ends with the nine of them becoming the protectors of Kingdom Hearts and protecting the realms from darkness. But that's just my opinion where you can still keep the good stuff beyond Kingdom Hearts 2 and get rid of all the unnecessary time travel, replica, and clone shinanagins. Boy that was long...
I agree! I like BBS a lot, but everything after that wasn't very good. Giving those characters more of a well thought out conclusion, and a more satisfying end to the Xehanort fight would have been great. I like the idea of Xehanort coming back after his heartless and nobody are killed, but once he started turning people into his vessels and the time travel stuff got introduced, it became so bloated. I also wish that Sora had more of a personality in KH3, he feels like hes lobotomized the entire game.
@@noxasorsomething That's a fair point. The characters are the reason I like this game. I think the plot sucks because it's filled with so many holes and so many things don't make sense. I liked the Kingdom Hearts 3 gameplay and how it felt more like an open world. Story-wise it definetly felt rushed and like they were trying to shove a bunch of conclusions into one game (*cough* much like a very overrated marvel movie I know of *cough*) but anyways I think the Re-Mind DLC fixed a lot of my problems with Kingdom Hearts 3 plus Kairi got to actually do stuff and be a playable character for once. I also just love Aqua so much she's the best character in my opinion. But yeah I agree that I didn't really mind the Xeanort coming back after his heartless and nobody were destroyed. It was the time travel and 13 Xeanort clones that was really stupid.
@@KingdomofZelda Here's to hoping KH4 is the best game in the series my friend
@ I doubt it for me I don’t think I’ll like the lack of Aqua and the lack of Wayfinder trio. But then I did like KH2
Things could've been so simple and clean 😔
Agreed. I stopped playing the series after I beat 2, and have had no urge to pick up the series since then.
I have a friend who continues to play the series, and listening to him explain it makes me so happy i quit early on.
I agreeeeee
W yap sesh (I’m even more confused now)
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craziest glaze ive ever seen i love kh2 dont get me wrong but like what is this 💀💀
maaaaaaan, all i said is it would have made more sense to end the series there instead of adding a prequel, a prequel to that prequel, a third game, and a two-three games between the 2nd and 3rd one. I liked birth by sleep, but everything after that hasn't been the best. I've been following the development of kh4 though, and I'm hopeful. I hope it's one of the better games they make.
How was he glazing? He just said the series/story went on for too long, which is true.
Xion, Axel, Most main characters in BBS:
(but yeah ignoring everything they put in the final mix version of 2 this would've kept the series less tangled in its own plot)
Why would you say that
It really should have, then it got dumber.
Sorry, but No knowing who Sora is he wouldn't be okay with letting Roxas and Namine not be their own people. it's a okay ending with certain things
if you take look at who Sora is it makes 0 sense to have it end there.
BIG AGREE
I really hate nostalgia people. Kh2 was my first kh game. I love it. But I'm not gonna let greed and hate blind me. I love kh3. You think its ok sora, riku, and kairi goes home and that Aqua is still in the realm of darkness? Terra still with xehnaort? And ventus still asleep? How selfish can you be? And don't get me started on khux. All those kids died for the war. Damn. These kh fans are starting to be so selfish. 😊
I mean if the series ended at 2 or even days, none of those loose ends you mentioned would even exist to remain loose.
@SittinGamer so if the story ended with Days, then they would've already opened Pandora's box with the kh2 and 2fm Secret Endings showing off Terra, Aqua, and especially Ventus.
Even if you remove those, Days itself also teases BBS with Xion reflecting Ventus's image when Xigbar looks at her.
And even then, is the idea that Roxas doesnt deserve to be his own person (as it was left off at in kh2) and that Xion remains forgotten really satisfying? Its a tragic ending, and tragic endings can be satisfying, but for the kind of story KH wants to tell, and with the themes it explores, does all that really track?
@@SittinGameralso! With the introduction of Master Yen Sid, we know Keyblade Masters are a thing, and can infer that there's some kind of process or lineage for keyblade wielders, and one would have to wonder how Riku forged the kingdom key while being stuck on an island his whole life
And, there's also that Apprentice TerraNort, as said in the Ansem Reports, was able to open the door to Radiant Garden's heart.....something he would likely be unable to do without a keyblade. Which opens up its own can of worms regarding keyblade wielding societies
No
It had too many plot points left out
Namine and roxas fates sucked
Roxas and Namines fate did suck, but that was kinda what made their fate interesting. Two characters who were never suppose to exist, and them having to come to terms with that. When Roxas talked about his summer vacation ending it would break my heart. I'm incredibly glad they both get a happy ending at the end of 3, but i wish they would have taken more time with it or something.
I love the gameplay but the story is cheeks.
Cheeks in a slightly interesting way. I love the KH original characters, but nothing takes me out of it more than seeing mickey mouse show up in a trench coat talking about "The Door to Darkness".
@@noxasorsomethingSay fellas...
is it cause its mickey or just the line delivery?
@@booga324 the writing is bad
@@booga324 A little of both
It’s not
To each their own my friend
Bro you can just admit you don't actually like the franchise, you don't need a 5 minute copium fueled soapbox about it.
I love the franchise, I've bought every game and played them religiously. I think the game play is great, and KH2 is one of my favorite games of all time. I'm not saying the other games are bad, i like BBS and was really invested in their fate leading up to 3. I just think ending the games at 2 would have been simpler. KH3 had one of the least satisfying endings in my opinion. It wrapped up all the characters problems towards the end of the game in what felt like a really rushed, half ass way. Characters that had been though hell like Roxas, and Terra were just all of a sudden chilling. I love the series and think the first few games are incredibly charming. I'm just making a silly video, poking fun at a few things and saying that it would have been simpler to end the series at 2. It would have felt satisfying, and been easier to understand.
KH3 just kinda sucked and wasn't worth the build-up of every game that came chronologically after 2.
You should't be cursing so boisterously........just saying
_(You could at least bleep it out)_
I'll try to tone down on the bad words
@@noxasorsomething Thank you kindly😇