The replicas don't have weight because we never saw how hard it was to make them or if you need special materials. Instead they are just plot devices and there was no need for replica Riku to sacrifice himself
Biggest issue I had with KH3 was replaying the exact Disney movie instead of creating a new adventure with those characters. Frozen, Tangled and a little of PotC were a drag while Hercules, Toy Story and Monsters Inc felt like classic KH formula. Just my opinion though.
i LOVED THE TANGLE WORLD CAUSE YOU COULD PLAY WITH REPUNZEL though i think everyone agrees the frozen world sucks. talking over the songs also is just always audio vomit.
@@gorbla1231 yes, and I mean everything before scala ad calum, should have been integrated through the game, saving aqua and ventus, fighting the xehanorts through the game
@@runicex2310you don't seem to understand. The end segment of the game had 3-5 plot points that could have easily been distributed earlier in the game. For example, rather then save aqua all the way at the end. Sora could partially unlock the power of waking and end up with riku, saving her 2 worlds in. Then they can say, Aqua needs time to rest before going to get ventus and you need to pass 2 more worlds before going to go get him. Etc etc. Instead. Essentially NOTHING happened during the actual game until we were down to the last few hours and suddenly, we get 20 plot points a minute
It wouldn’t have been so bad if they hadn’t wrapped up EVERY single story plot in the last 10 minutes of the last quest. Going from group to group to finish their story was very disappointing. Also making the game more of a “kingdom hearts for everyone” instead of for the fans hurt the entire fanbase that has been waiting for this game for years. Very sad.
@@Italiansauseege yeah. It could have been easily fixed too. Just split plot points, 2 worlds apart Beat 2 worlds. They save aqua. But they can't get ven because, she just got freed from hell. She needs to rest. Beat 2 more worlds. Save Ven. Now he needs to rest. Etc etc Nothing would've changed and the game itself would have felt more rewarding to play as your not waiting ages for the plot to actually start
I think there's a lot of issues I have with the gameplay too. at least compared to the second game, the gameplay feels repetitive and drags, and it doesn't have the same rpg details as KH1 and KH2
Ive always felt like kh3 is exactly what people who refuse to give kingdom hearts a chance think kingdom hearts is. And that's always made me deeply upset.
This right here, is exactly how it feels. Can’t even tell people to get into the series because it leads exactly to what they thought was wrong with the series to begin with
@@oathkeeperofoblivion972 ironically, I’m actually more excited for KH4, but only after playing Re:Mind, which really just put a band-aid over the game. But KH4 is the last chance the series has before I’m done with it.
@@mathewgilbert9190 I didn't sign up for versus 13. I'm glad Numora is making what he wants but. It's not something I have any interest in whatsoever. Even if it weren't for that. Every plot point I was invested in is tied up, whether it's in a way I like or not. There's....nothing left for me. So I won't bother getting excited, cuz I don't have anything to get excited about.
@@oathkeeperofoblivion972 I’m kind of rooting for him at this point. Square kicked him off the development for versus XIII,which supposedly was gonna be his magnum opus, to focus on KH3. But my theory is that Disney didn’t want Nomura to make the KH3 he envisioned for the series. That’s why the game was “made for everyone,” so anyone could hop on to the story. I’m also willing to bet Disney is the reason there were exclusively no FF character til the DLC and that’s why the worlds felt very bland, because they didn’t want to make a Kingdom hearts game, they literally wanted to retell their stories and make sure Sora didn’t effect the overall plot of their movies, for meta sake. I think KH4 is a middle finger to both Disney and Square for ruining both things he wanted to make
It would have been cool to have longer cutscenes of the trios reuniting but it would have killed the pacing of the climax if after each battle we got a 3 minute cutscene
I'd never say kh3 was bad. My main 2 complaints were always 1. It was way too easy on release And 2. The story pacing was all squished to the last 20 % of the game. Causing me to stop caring about the last 2 worlds and rush through them. That's not a problem previous games had
I think something else to consider which you did touch on was the amount of time spent waiting for KH3. 6.5 years from Dream Drop Distance and 8.3ish years from Birth by Sleep. So much time for fans to generate their own scenarios, interactions, etc of what could happen only to be met with, "Yay we saved them! Alright, gotta go!". Hype for KH3 really gave fans a false sense of rose colored glasses. (I might be using the idiom wrong, lol) In all fairness, it was a keyblade "War" which means Sora ain't got time for that sentimental shite lol. It is a bummer, and something I tend to complain about when it comes to other franchises and even in anime. We're just forced to accept interactions we really want to see just happen off screen. I mean hell, it's what drives so many people to write and/or read fanfiction which ties to what I said in the beginning. Anyway, enjoyed the video and your takes on the game. Personally, I like the game if we're including Re:Mind, and I only like the game slightly less without it. I'm more of a take what I can get kind of guy, haha.
For some reason everyone refuses to acknowledge that normura was made to work on 3 games at once. One of which he didn't even know was coming. While I don't think kh3 was bad, it did leave me wanting in a way. I forgive nomura but I do blame square as a whole.
@@nesoukkefka1741I blame Disney more than Square since Disney owns all the original Kingdom Hearts characters along with their own characters. There aren’t any FF characters (unless you count Verum Rex ig) in KH3.
You blame Disney for Nomura saving 99% of the story for the very end? Or looking for crabs? Or the cast being completely useless besides Sora? Cope. Pure cope.
Not the worst. But I had finished KH2 days before and gameplay wise Kh3 was very floaty, story wasn't as good. It was all Disney world after world. And usually you would have the KH story in-between worlds but for most of the worlds is just some black coats messing with the world and being mysterious and then it's all left for the last act and they throw ALL the KH lore we have been waiting for for the last hours on the game. I love kingdom hearts. kH1 was my very first PS2 video game , the cgi cutscene left me completely mesmerized and was burned to my retinas, and Kh3 made me cry like a baby with the ending,but I had to dig a huge hole to get there.
I think the most disappointing part of 3 is how Riku felt completely sidelined especially after the insanely epic fight with Xemnas at the end of 2 where Sora and Riku showed off their teamwork and how much it felt like a satisfying conclusion to both their arcs in how they each matured from their individual journeys. Not to mention how they pushed Riku even more into the spotlight with DDD that I was expecting to be able to either have Riku in the party for 3 or at least be able to play a good chunk of the game with him, but no. He honestly needed to have more prominence in 3.
as someone who knew very little about the KH series going into KH3, i also felt like there were things that were missing. my first thought going through the game was "who are all these people and why should i care?", which didn't get answered until i went back and learned the story. but going back to it after learning more about the entire series makes it still feelriddled with holes.
Yeah, imagine following the series for years since the first game which started out with a simple enough premise but overtime became this convoluted mess of a plotholes and retcons
@@soulkibble1466I think that because after kh2 and bbs he wanted to make v13 with the ideas he had for a while before kh2 so he started introducing new characters with the games after bbs thinking that he could turn kh3 in v13. I wonder how kh3 woulda turned out if the og v13 released
As much as Roxas coming back was pretty obvious for many fans, I always felt him not coming back would have been more emotionally impactful. Like, they could have ot where Roxas temporarily takes control of Sora during the fight where he helps Xion and Axel and after the fight, Roxas would reassure them that he'll always be there for them because after all, Roxas is Sora. But that's just me. Other than that, I felt that the other keyblade wielders didn't contribute much sadly. Like, remember when Sora and Riku fought side by side to defeat Xemnas? That was such a spectacle that felt like a satisfying conclusion to both Sora's and Riku's journey. Sora had matured and become a Hero for the Realm of Light while Riku conquered the darkness in his heart and created his own path to become a Hero of Darkness. The final fight in 3 should have had all the keyblade welders fighting alongside Sora or Hell could have been Sora, Riku and Kairi or something
This is Sora we're talking about. The world gave up on Roxas but he never did. Sora is the connection. That's why I'm fine with Roxas coming back, because he was never supposed to exist and he was never supposed to come back, but Sora wasn't happy with that.
@@REDEEMERWOLFI actually agree with you. However the way they went about it was so bad it just felt like pure fan service and nothing else. It should’ve been a fleshed out plot point
@redeemerwolf I get that. It's just the whole Replica stuff felt so rushed not helped by the fact that we get all this plot dump at the end instead of it being spread out. Would feel more satisfying if we did save Terra, Ven, and whatnot throughout the course of the game and boss fights with the Organization Members in the Disney Worlds where the resulting clash created the fragments of the X-Blade so there was that tension much like in Two when Sora learned killing Heartless was what the Organization wanted him to do and he had that moment of doubt
Ok I get it. You don't like Disney...sorry to disappoint you but Kingdom Hearts is and was always a Disney game. If they decide to fully animate scenes from Frozen to respect the source material then let them do that without complaining about it what...10 times or so? And if Disney says they have to not interfere to much with the movies then there is no working around it. Frozen had the most regulations of all worlds. Aside from that I don't know if you tried to hold informations back willingfully and distort other informations because you didn't know better or didn't care better. We know the person in the secret ending which shapes a Heart out of the moon with their hands is the Master of Masters. This was not known by release but this is supposed a video 5 years after and Nomura already confirmed this. Aqua was not beaten by Vanitas because she is bad but to protect Ven but you left this information fully out of context to just say: Well she is just bad. You also did not explain how Xion etc return and complain about it and say the same time it happened to fast while the whole scene and the whole bringing her back sequence is way longer then the reanimation of Elsa's castle construction. Also Xigbar has a dark pillar before he is defeated....you fight 12 Replicas not 13....I actually get the impression you tried to not really care enough about the informations to just make this many mistakes. And the next thing and this annoyed me the most: "Would be better if it was in the base game". This is a complaint that has nothing to do in this video. It is a five years after video and you complain about stuff 5 years ago. I really want to hear then also complains about every other KH entry which wasn't full before a new rerelease. Re:Mind is not an extra game and it is also not sold as an extra game. If you buy KH3 nowadays you buy it with Re:Mind the same way you bought Final Mix versions extra before. And I certainly am more happy with a pricey DLC then buying the whole game anew because they still make FM versions. So consider the DLC as part of the game and not something entirely cut off of the game. The reason why you don't see all those stuff in the playthrough before Re:Mind ist because of the expierience Sora sees in and after his time travel. I really looked forward to a video like this just to see someone complaining about stuff not even fitting for the video and giving a lot of wrong informations.
It was bad , no substance , no coherent story , barely any villain motivation, combat system needed a dlc and ripped moved from Kh2fm just to be good , ending was bad , dialogue is horrendous, no real purpose for visiting the world that you do (and if there was a purpose it was some ret conned bull made up by square to justify it ) no hollow bastion , no really good secret boss (e.g Sephiroth in kh2 ) Disney worlds were basically a giant ad and uncreative level design … man I could on dude
I've loved the ending of KH3 since my first playthrough. The more and more I learned in Cross and Dark Roads and Re:mind made me love it even more. It feels like a lot of criticism is pointing at feeling like the characters deserved more. Which I can sympathize with, like expecting daybreak trio to exact revenge for what happened. Or saying that Xehanort is why we are all here. I feel like the end of KH3, granted you NEED knowledge of MoM and Cross and Dark Road and Back Cover (lmao), was exactly what it should've been. The mantle of light is what changes this predetermined future. The reason we are here is MoM's/Luxu/Foretellers doing. Not Xehanort. And The Seeker of darkness could have only been beaten by the mantle of light, not any other trio.
During the frozen area, I feel like sora could've had a small musical fight with the gang trying to get Elsa to see what she's doing instead of letting her powers run wild, much like Riku, with Larxien tempting her more and more reminding her why she's doing what she's doing, that would've been a more interesting dynamic for the world, even letting it show that darkness is still watching and waiting during really weighted decisions, allowing Elsa to have a taste of their power if she desired to.
Kingdom Hearts III was a very terrible finale because it wasn't one, despite what it was advertised to be. As just another game in the series, it's fine enough. It has its weaknesses, but it has a lot of upsides, too.
yes, it was the end of a saga, not the series but thats zero excuse to rush through that story just to set up the next one. KH3 has no sense of finality for the storyline it was wrapping up, a storyline almost 20 years old at that point. KH2 wasn't one either, and its ending feels conclusive for the characters as they were at the time which is absolute proof KH3 has no excuse to be excessively bad at finishing something.
Kh2 was far worse in terms of story and characters. Sora was OOC and unlikable. Donald and goofy were practically irrelevant. Kh3 was a lot deeper and more mature in terms of theme and story.
I think you should look at KH2 again, it has a LOT of things worse than KH3, like it doesn't have a Retry botton, you need to redo your entire menu again before the fight if you did in that room, it is lacking in dodging mechanics for most of the game, maps are way too linear and have barely any design as you simply go back and forth in corridors most of the time, you need to get out of the worlds if you want to go in another save point location of the same world, you can't even keep cameos party members without taking off Donald or Goofy, mobility is meh for a big part of the game and so on.
@@gustavos.8511 don't forget the horrendous drive form grind that then punishes you for doing what the game makes mandatory to get movement options (by making you grind for movement options, the game basically locks you out of forms for a lot of the fights when you want to use them). Also, it hides how to gain exp for said forms in a menu that no one ever looks at.
@@tombolt13thexehanort29 not only that, but the geniuses made Anti form as a "punishment" for abusing Drive forms, you know, the ones they force the player to abuse in order to get decent growth abilities...
Also in KH2FM there was an extremely dumb glitch that is depending if you do part of the Tron world after you completed cave of remembrance, the exit you unlocked will be closed and you need to do the whole path again EVERY time, it happened to me on my first save file....
I would've thought the final battle underneath water was random too, if you hadn't also fought in the sky. Maybe they were doing a land, sea, sky tribute to the heroes' name themes? Or it could be me giving the developers too much credit. 😅
I feel like it’s biggest “issue” was always that due to the long wait for the game, the expectations got far above what could have been delivered, people set the bar too high, and as such felt let down by the (still very good) game.
As a challenge runner, its gameplay was fantastic for me after all the patches and dlc, it also has the best superbosses in the entire series. It has problems for sure (no kh game is perfect) but the amount of fun I had with the combat was at least equal to kh2fm. And people tends to forget how much contents vanilla kh2 didn't have as well (gameplay-wise)
Sora not kissing Kairi may not be what single-handedly makes KH3 bad...but for people who have played since the very beginning back in 2002, you can understand why some people were pissed off. We've literally watched Square Enix tease us with the Paopu Fruit symbolism and whole "their destinies become interwinded...no matter what" thing for almost *_twenty goddamn years_* So after all that, Sora not only never kisses Kairi, but he never even says "I love you" once to her. *_Travesty of writing._*
Given how much wrapup they had to do, it would not have been unreasonable for them to Avengers Infinity war/Endgame it, and make the entire game one long ending to the saga. Wheel of Time's "A memory of light" understands this task well as the capstone of a 14 book saga. The approach they took would have been fine for a 3 game saga, but adding the BBS plotlines, and then on top of that barely using the disney world elements, gave them too much to do in the final act. A problem made profoundly worse to what i think is a major part of the game's demographic, "casual" fans who played 1 on ps2 in their childhood, 2 on ps3 a few years later, and then 3. This demographic would have had no idea what the hell's going on, and by better pacing the plot points throughout the game, there was room to help these people enjoy what's going on. I think KH3 should have opened with what we got as a separate item in the 2.8 collection, "A fragmentary passage" which with little or no retooling would have set up the BBS characters for this demographic, and allowed that part of the plot to land better. Do what KH2 did and start us off playing another character to explore an idea, then fold it back into the plot later. I also think the selection of disney worlds this time around was weak, largely for how weakly many of them tied into the main plot of the game, when often they shouldn't have been. I'll give an A+ to monstropolis though, as the fight against corropted emptions weally did fit that setting. A basic example of this disconnect is the Frozen world, where the main plot stalls while we watch frozen play out. Frozen is a story about learning to love yourself and those who care for you. I think Sora was the wrong character to experience that, cause he has nothing to learn here.
I have NO idea what about all this hate on kh3, when I got it and played it, it was really fun and emotional and having seen different perspective of other characters is pretty interesting, songs are peak, I like the form changing, is like lesser drive forms but I like em and the seeing Sora cry just hurts me when he cried out in pain
I didn't like the combat as much as KH2 because of how floaty it was but I also feel like it was 50% "cutscene". Even the footage you chose had a lot of "cutscene" in it. Every attraction/keyblade transformation was just 'hit a button and everything around you collapses' which felt like a cutscene with an extra step. I know you could just not use those but then every 10 steps there was like 10-15 insane hp sponges in front of you where you're just doing your 3 hit floaty combo for way too long. I couldn't even last more than a few hours in that game which was disappointing because of how much I loved KH1&2.
Nice job on the video, your favorite cut scene in the series is also my favorite scene, when I finished the birth by sleep game I nearly cried for 30 minutes
@pascalfernandes6957 that's like saying i hated the entire meal cause I didn't like the desert. It was a mediocre attempt at a conclusion till the DLC came out.
Yes because of the pieces set up beforehand, set it up for failure. 3D's introduction of time travel and bringing back organization XIII as normal people and making Roxas his own character just slapped KHIIs powerful moments in the face, and cluttering the combat with gameplay elements from every game without thinking how they'd interact with each other was just disappointing and boring, aswell as flow motion. Nomura's wierd aversion to having FF characters who were central to the plot previous games, bringing back every dead character, making the lackey Xigbar a central player in a larger scheme, everything scream ameteur writing. Good game, in general, bad kingdom hearts.
“Good game, in general, bad kingdom hearts.” Generally this what I’m getting from the comments. I think the game was a solid 8/10 based off gameplay, graphics, and overall fun. But I think the story part is where ppl have the most critique.
Ventus shouldve struck xehanort down while xehanort and eraqus were talking, maybe even ven's keyblade transforming into missing ache His lingering darkness from he previous era would be teased and of all the people xehanort has hurt ventus got it the worst
Unpopular opinion but I thought KH3 was a lot better than KH2. It felt let we finally got back to the roots that KH1 built. All honesty I think KH3 only had 1 core issue and that was the fact that it had the responsability of wrapping up 12 other games and still be its own game all at the same time. It was doomed to fail in a lot of aspects because of this. If they spent more time on wrapping up peoples story and less time on the Disney worlds then the new complant would have just been it feels like its not its own game. I don't know it doesn't feel like KH3 failed its more like Square set it up for failure. And even with the impossible task it had infront of it, I think they knocked it out of the park. They honestly needed one more game before KH3 came out where the focus was on Sora gaining the Power of Waking and it ended with us saving Aqua. Then KH3 could have had a proper start with Aqua at lvl one in Destany Island, training to regain her strength before they go to save Ven. One thing I hear a lot is that this game doesn't have a middle point like KH2. I agree but I don't see why that's a bad thing. I think we feel this way because KH3 much like KH1 is consistantaly intresting and good all the way through. Very few low points(which is completely subjective depening on what worlds you didn't like). KH2 mid point was absolutly phenominal but didn't have consistancy at all until you get to the 2nd passes of worlds. But this is just my opinion.
Arendell definitely feels the most messy in terms of worlds. In the past I've seen people say that it was likely completely different before they had to restructure it to fit what they were told to do. The biggest outlier is the Ice Maze. And the fact Larxene made it.
One major thing to consider about the Disney worlds feeling the way they do is almost surely John Lasseter. In addition to being a creep, he is known to be a complete control freak over the portrayals of characters from any of the franchises he feels ownership over, which was anything from Pixar and after Disney acquired Pixar in 06 and he became head of Disney Animation anything they made after that. So... Toy Story, Monsters Inc, Tangled, Frozen and Big Hero 6. This is almost surely why the KH team was so strongly handcuffed on what they were and were not able to do with the Disney worlds. Especially Frozen, which was obviously gutted from it's original plans of having Elsa become the heartless boss and only allowing for Marshmallow as a party member.
@@Sappyhourr Remember when two of the strongest fighters in our team struggled because they were half full of darkness? I could have fought everyone easy peasy without that temptation but sora would feel emasculated
The only issue KH3 had was the fandom. People hyped up this game so much that it could never match their expectations. I, too, was excited for the game, but I set realistic expectations and therefore was not disappointed. I got exactly what I wanted out of this game, and the DLC was just the icing on the cake.
Definitely would love to see more out of the trios - I’m pretty sure in kh4 we going to see more of that while they figure out how to get to sora like how Riku did in the end MoM
31:25 Maleficant knows about the box. I don't exactly remember all details but it was part of the UXs story. Something about post-KH2 Maleficant learning to time travel to UXs time.
He only gave up becaus eraques came in. thats why he killed him eraques is his weakness. How many zimes do you think hexstoped him. Nomura set up the way he avoids him in bbs on purpose. He planed this. Kh 3 was always gone be this qwayand noone forgave Xehanort. I thought it worked very well and i loved kh3. That you think it didnt just means you misunderstood kh as al whole. You akso miss how he wantet to see beyound the keybladewar. XEHANORTS Punishment is badicly his Ultimate Death. He wobt see beyound it And its still tragic. Sora already was disapearing after saving Everyone and changing the timelines as sayed by YX. Saving kairi was simply speeding it up. Nomura has planed the game like this since 2005 amd infact had the master of master and Quadratum as a Concept the seriesxwas heading in since kh 1 and planed out rhe overallstory of the series out during the kh 2 devolepment. He Story is about Sora and Riku The others only got the neccesary screentime. It worked and honestly ther was no time in the story for scenes between roxas or ventus in bg. Plus The gsne as a whole mirrors kh 1 plus the last fight having a crown symbole behind Not just Sora but also Dobakd and Goffy likely setscthem up as one Crown. All three of them together. If you dont trust nomuras plan thats fine but you habe to atleast respect that he has as a individuel his own ideas works with a team and that outside of him other team kembers trow in ideas and in the end only he knews kh inside out. A core aspect of The series is generationel traume and Forgiving even xour enemys.Sora tries to make friends with everyone. He yucceded her eher Xehanort as a child didnt.. xehanort killed Baldre Meanwhile Sora ttalked to him in anger but clearly intending to give him a chance, to redeme himself i asume. But he was old and died of old age. Hectried zo jedp going but eraquase saw his oportunity to niw stop xehanort like he akways did. He is the only obe who forgave him becaus he knews xehanort meent well in the end creating balance. MoM clearly has Kairi nit firgive xehanort though and nobody else forgave him. This is kingdom hearts.yiur idea of what means differs from what it aculy is and that is ok again realy it is butthsz you didnt like kh 3 means you had this imige and relised you just dont like what kh aculy is whole story was spread out over the whole game.
Nomura planned almost none of this. he's infamous for not putting much foresight into KH when it started getting sequels. but keep deflecting the game's shortcomings onto people its a good look for you just like the awful spelling 👍
It would have been nice if the game had more of the original storyline between disney worlds. The climax felt so rushed due to back to back reveals and conclusions. It took away the impact of each scene and did allow room to breathe. The disney worlds should have followed original stories like in precious games. Frozen was so unbelievably painful to get through.
I think the game is beautiful and playing it is fun. The cutscenes were definitely a lot though, ESPECIALLY when it was just frame by frame remakes of the Disney movies. I don't know why they put so little effort into Arendelle as a world, too-especially because Frozen is extremely popular. I remember hating trekking that world because it was so dull due to the icy, cold nature of it but there's certainly ways to make an icy world more vibrant and didn't have to be so confusing the run around through with every area being too similar in appearance. I actually liked POTC's world because of how much exploration it was and the mechanics of the ship were different than what we've done in the series so far. And the end where everyone gets reunited and revived is definitely fan servicey and extremely convenient but I don't mind it much. I just wish it wasn't so rushed and that there were more developments and explanations in the main game throughout for these reunions. But I'm still excited for KH4 when it comes out in 15 years.
Kh3 really was amazing. I think a big reason i love kh is the magic that it manages to bring me each game. Kh3 had me smiling the whole way through. One thing I don’t know if you mentioned is the trios relationship. I feel that sora donald and goofy’s relationship were also handled the best in 3. They all genuinely seemed like best friends, and the typically awkward dialogue was super charming the whole time. Kh3 is real comfort food in game format. The cutscenes may be super decorative, but kh3 would not be kh3 without its dedication to that Disney side of it. I honestly thought i would hate the cutscenes going in. I really agree about the climax however. I don’t think it was rushed personally, a climax would be a little less climatic if it had long cutscenes after every battle. But i do think they could have basically given the same amount of attention to the kh side of kh. But overall kh3 leans into the magic of this franchise. And i LOVE the music.
Another thing was that aside from Xigbar being Luxu (which came completely out of nowhere) the whole ending was predictable if you played DDD. You can pretty much assume that the next game was going to bring back all of those characters. I feel like the major story beats of DDD and KH3 could’ve been all in one game if reworked properly. Instead of Sora spending a whole game looking for the “power of waking” the premise would’ve been the same as DDD, aka the Mark of Mastery. Only difference is the worlds travelled would’ve been the KH3 worlds. Throughout the game you could’ve sprinkled all the main story beats of both games (since one happened right after the other) between each world. For the simple fact that there were no major story beats in KH3 until the end. After the Organization failed to capture Sora and you play as Riku, things really could’ve been written that they went straight to bringing back Ventus, Aqua, etc. Sora could’ve been brought back from his sleeping state with the power of waking and skipped a lot of BS.
My biggest issue here is how every complaint with Re:Mind is "it should've been in the main game." Yeah, it should have. But it wasn't because of the absolute hell that was the production of the game. But Re:Mind is KH3 Final Mix. The things here are the same level of changes compared to KH1 and KH2's Final Mix versions. If games didn't have shareholders and company executives to please and could be creative and tell the stories the creators want to tell, Re:Mind would have been base game. Did it meet expectations? No. But it was never going to meet expectations because DDD was released in 2012 and KH3 was released in 2019. Granted we had 3 remaster collections and two mobile games in that time and KH3 had to scrap everything in the middle of development when the developers were made to swap to unreal engine from an in house engine, I think that when you remove those inflated expectations, the game is perfectly serviceable. I give it a solid 7/10.
31:26 Maleficent and by extension Pete know about the box bc of what they learned in Re: Coded in the remake not the DS game and what "The Darkness" taught her in KHUX. I do not recall all of those cutscenes but it's in there.
its frustrating seeing all the groups reuniting and seeing what could have been be undercut from what feels like the story being rushed, is the game bad? no, but man they had so much time to piece it back together a bit consistently and naturally. thats really why i was frustrated with the whole thing.
The hand with disney with a lot of aspects of the story really do show in honestly a bad way most of the time. like for tangled i could see eugene/flynn actually coax sora because of his good nature to be there. and marluxia being used as a collabritive villan like they did was well setup, execution not, but good setup. so something intresting when you look at how sora was able to block darkqua hitting riku is he basically teleport. in DDD sora actually gains a block command called link block that lets him teleport to his dream eaters when he blocks. and since riku is considered sora dream eater in a sense, its one of his odd random abilities hes retained. one thing that was vary noticable to be about xehanort was each of the different versions of him self generally all were written for different reasons at different times. now the eventual reveal of him wanting to guide everyone as ruler was actually setup since BBS, but was it fully fleshed out during that time, imo no. just a eventual plan that nomura wanted to use him for that. he definintely needed to flesh this part out to. the why sora and vanitas look at like is because of their connection to ventus before they both took a form. the english version absolutely was horrible at convaying this. and roxas looking like ven is the chain connection of ventus>sora>roxas. if nomura wants to actually make it more a reason for this, he gots a lot of work he would still need to do.
Guh, I forgot about how they handled the story in Re:Mind. First FFXV tried to fix its story with post-launch DLC, now KH3 does, I just have no patience for Square Enix pushing story DLC at this point. Was FFXVI a complete story at least or did that also fall into this trap?
i liked it :/ but i’m only just now playing KH2. and i think my opinion of KH3 would be worse if i had KH2 to compare it to at the time. so my experience was KH1 -> GBA Chain of Memories -> like an 11 year break -> KH1 Final Mix PS3 -> KH3 -> 5 year break -> KH1 FM Switch -> KH2 FM Switch immediately after.
Glad you put it this way. I don't think that people have nostalgia bias when they say they didn't like KH3. KH2 just gave KH3 a lot to hold up to and KH3 just didn't quite land
Now I am playing in crucial game mode, and now the bosses are fun as it got harder, yes you are right about how easy it was but I dont think that flying the whole time is a bad thing as it made the game for me more smooth. Some abilitys like super attacks of keyblades might made the game much easier but on the other hand some mob fights which I dont really care much were finished much faster and on DLC and in crucial game mode these abilitys made the game playable I really loved the game, yes it could be better in some parts but yeah lets wait for kh4 I think some abilitys from this game were just intro for kh4
@@egehepsen7810 I also kinda feel like the combat being more floaty is a way to show just how skilled sora has become. Kh 1 sora was grounded 90% of the time and had a super clunky glide ability. Kh 3 sora is a mobile monster. Able to zip around the battlefield, like a spiderman on crack
The main issue with this game is that the story is so backloaded, you go from playing out Disney worlds exactly how they go in the movies while feeling like you're not doing much to the entire main story being dropped in front of you. The Pixar worlds were great though and Re:Mind fixed a lot of the move convoluted plot points, mainly the Union X stuff because really how many people actually played through all that?
I finally played it in the past year and enjoyed the latter half of it a lot because I like info/lore dumps. I do wish the organization was incorporated more throughout the worlds like in KH2, because that made the worlds more interesting.
Duh. They didn’t learn anything with kh3 until people complained online that’s why they ripped moves from kh2. And it still don’t feel the same that’s why I’m not excited for kh4 but I’m glad it’s a thing
Thoughts before watching: Kingdom Hearts 3 was never a "bad game," but it was disappointing from the lens that it was supposed to conclude the story thus far. If you were familiar with the KH unique characters, the Disney Worlds just felt like time padding, and if you weren't familiar with them, they didn't really do that good of a job introducing those characters. Then there's the whole giant fake out the first time you go into the final confrontation, followed by a complete rapid fire overload of attempts to conclude specific arcs that felt like they didn't get the proper amount of time to conclude properly. And then at the very end the main villain, instigator of all of the hardships the characters have gone through, basically just gets to walk off to an old folks home without apologizing for or repairing any of the damage he's done. None of that was satisfying from a narrative perspective. As a whole package video game though? It was plenty fun to play through and if you don't let yourself think too hard about the story there's plenty of cool flashy moments to enjoy.
Kingdom Hearts III spends too much time being a recap and even more time being a justification for why things need to play out as they do. As a result, it feels like the story isn't moving forward until Sora finishes up his time with Big Hero 6. And unlike other games in the series, Sora never even meets Master Xehanort until the end of the game despite him being the main villain.
Honesty KH3 is my favorite entry due to it being the culmination of my favorite KH titles both story and gameplay wise. I feel like this game gets a lot of backlash due to the strong KH2 nostalgia bias that has grown within the last decade. Either people want a carbon copy of KH2 story wise or people complain about the gameplay since it's an Osaka title and the physics are not like KH2. Don't get me wrong, I love KH2, but I feel like people's nostalgia and strong opinions on other KH titles are represented as facts instead of just opinions. And that stains people's perception of this game and puts KH2 even higher on a golden pedestal.
the games is trivially easy unless you play critical (which wasnt an option on release) and then its just bullshit and not real difficulty. combat where you dont have to think and just mash x while sora magnetizes to the target no matter how far is objectively bad. kh2 sits on a pedestal for far more reasons than nostalgia.
I've grown to really like Kingdom Hearts 3. While 2 is still my favorite, Kingdom Hearts 3 despite in my opinion being weak story wise until the dlc, is such a fun game. It's basically how I feel about Insomniac's Spider-Man 2. Really fun game, story is weaker than the previous numbered entry, but I rate it an 8 out of 10 while the previous game is a 9 out of 10.
No, it wasn’t bad at all. Matter of fact. It resolves a lot of the story, the problem is the expectation after “13 years” You can never live up to that.
@@MrZippyBlue it resolved it easily in 20 minutes at the end of the story. Making the 10 hours of story before that completely pointless. It's bad writing no matter how you look at it
I think this game was about love in all forms, family love for Ven Aqua and Terra, love of friends with sora and the gang, the love of crushing on someone with Kairi, and so on
This is where I finally gave up on the franchise. I remember being consistently disappointed by the new games ever since BBS but I always held out hope that KH3 would make it all worth it only to have the interesting bits of the plot practically speedrun by the writers instead of giving them the time and care they deserved. This is where I get off of Nomura's wild ride and I will not be coming back for anything else KH related. For your sake and for other fans of the series I desperately hope that KH4 is GOOD with no caveats but I won't be sticking around to find out. The existence of Remind does not justify the fact that I spent full price on a game that's narrative was half baked at best.
gameplay was solid, graphics amazing, world/level design pretty good... but the writing and pacing and story were terrible. fundamentally bad decisions like cutting out the final fantasy content, cramming all the major story developments into the last chunk of the game, not having an explorable final world, just the complete pointlessness and aimlessness of the bulk of sora's journey, weird and bad retcons to the villain's motivations, the waste of most of the dide characters.... kh3 is nowhere near as bad as people have complained about overall and it does some things the best in the series. It's honestly pretty fun and I do like it overall. There was no way it was going to be able to tie up the spaghetti mess that the franchise story had been left in, edpecially after dream drop, so it's not really fair to condemn it for failing to do so, but even so, the degree to which the story fell on its face was kind of shocking, especially when compared to the impressively satisfying resolution of kh2
while there are tons of things that bother me about KH3's plot overall, the biggest one is the dirty deed they did to Riku, they literally just replace his keyblade with no fanfair or shocking moment or real reason why especially for a keyblade that is supposed to be the embodiment of riku's journey and walking the path of both light and dark which that subplot seemed to have been dropped for again no reason other than lazyness, they just did it all off screen, which overall is my biggest problem is that the majority of this game's plot all happens off screen which is the biggest story telling sin my my book, Pokemon Sw/Sh had the same problem for me.
Kingdom hearts 3 was a disappointment for some people because of how easy it was and I can’t blame them but Remind fixes that issue. The story was rushed but I’m glad that we ended the saga in this game
haven't watched yet, but kh3 is indeed the worst in my eyes. the trailers spoiled so much, also false advertisement. I expected to see 3 times the size of the worlds. a epic battle with dark baymax overrunning the city with heartless, yensid's world being playable, twilight town having a breakable wall of bricks to get to the mansion, xion rebuilt as the 13th due to young xehanort testing hearts in toy story to get a clue about a missing darkness to reclaim, vanitas looking for ventus and finding him in sora, aqua being one of the 13, the box being relevant, disney villans working with each other or xehanort, possible dive into world mechanic like ddd, everyone dying/failing in the final battle, sora survives to fight xehanort in scala ed calem which should be the kingdom hearts. And all this is what I expected from the trailers. We didn't even get semi open areas. the 2015 trailer showed sora jumping off the cliff to explore olympus, but traveling feels like your walking down hallways. The map even shows walls cutting off sections you should be able to jump or run over. also the attractions should have been scrapped, too overpowered and ruins boss fights. example : superbutterbuns clip of fighting Aqua with her saying "Do you like BOATS!?" aqua defeated soon after the atraction reaches halfway... and instead of giving us a happy ending for sora, noumora decided sora should sacrifice his life for kairi... a character that never got any development throughout the entire series. and what was sora's reason to be a jerk to data sora, "The datascape doesn't count, I need to be the one to thank you, but not until everything is over" thanks sora for making the sole reason to view re coded story meaningless... I could honestly keep going, but then you'd just be reading how much and why I hate kingdom hearts III the novel.
I 98% agree with everything you said wholeheartedly. Except for Aqua losing to Vanitas. But id like to add some other issues. The game was to easy on Proud mode. And Square didnt do anything fkr the game aside from Remind, where's the upgrade to PS5? And Cloud vs Sephiroth 3 Edit: BBS has floaty mechanics to just like 3, it was dine by the same team Oasaka i think. Not the people who did 2.
I love KH Kingdom Hearts 3 is a great game, the issue with it is the writing. Characters and Plot were not handled well. I felt that Dark Roads writing was handled wonderfully, its an immense shame KH3's writing was as bad as it was.
Problem with the game is outside of some few exceptions it was basically a succession of disney movie recap feat Sora, Donald and Gooffy (missing most of their story for some, like if you haven't watch the Pirates of the caraebean 2 and 3 good luck to understand what the fuck is happening in that world), instead of the epic finally the series was building toward. As far as I'm concern tough, in term of story I started drifting away from the series with BBS, DDD was to me the final nail in the coffin that game was just so bad to me that I was certain there was no way KH3 could pull off a satisfying conclusion, and I was right so at least on that front my expectation were at 0. For me it's basically the same as the MCU I just wanted to see the end of the saga I had followed since being a child, and just like I stopped watching the MCU after the Avengers defeated Thanos, I'm stopping KH there with Xehanort defeated, and unlike MCU they didn't even bother to make the defeat of Xehanort satisfying and conclusive but whatever. On the gameplay front the gameplay was fine, and since I was set that KH3 will be my final KH, for the first and only time I bought the DLC Re : Mind just for the Data fight... and at least gameplay wise I can say I'm fine with leaving the series there, the KH3 Data Fights were amazing and are what should have been the finally at least on the gameplay, each member of the Organization in epic boss fight mixing the mechanics and attacks from all their different apparitions in the series, with top music to boot and the final secret boss was gameplay my favorite fight in the series, so at least gameplay wise I'm happy that I'm leaving the serie on an high note.
KH3 was basically a giant Disney ad, no FF characters, and they put all of the plot in the last 4 hours of the game. On top of that xehanort, a guy who was brought up to be a ruthless destroyer of worlds said sorry and was a good guy at the last second. The mobile games ruined kingdom hearts because that's where the fo us shifted, and KH3 was a nail in that coffin because they realized the mobile story was what they wanted to focus on instead of the previous one. Anyone who claims it's a masterpiece is either dumb or a Disney shill. Also combat was not tuned at launch. The game was insanely easy.
@AnAverageGoblin stfu moogles are specific to each game so NO there aren't any FF characters. And who gives a fuck about DLC that costs half the game. That wasn't what I was talking about. DLC doesn't make the base game better and getting a small clip of a few ff characters that were shoehorned in a year later after people were bitching about it doesn't count either. So get your facts strait and kick rocks nerd.
Yeah because the combat has been floaty ever since Osaka team took over. Kh2 played the best and no amount of flowmotion or d-links or summons or shot locks can change that it feels bad to move in.
The replicas don't have weight because we never saw how hard it was to make them or if you need special materials. Instead they are just plot devices and there was no need for replica Riku to sacrifice himself
We knew how tger beeing createt since CoM.
By Replikation once heart via Data.
The bodys ar just Programms in dummies
Biggest issue I had with KH3 was replaying the exact Disney movie instead of creating a new adventure with those characters.
Frozen, Tangled and a little of PotC were a drag while Hercules, Toy Story and Monsters Inc felt like classic KH formula.
Just my opinion though.
i LOVED THE TANGLE WORLD CAUSE YOU COULD PLAY WITH REPUNZEL though i think everyone agrees the frozen world sucks. talking over the songs also is just always audio vomit.
The problem with KH3 is that the ending should be distributed through the entire game
That’s been a problem with every kh game that’s not bbs days or kh1
Then it wouldn't have been the ending
@@runicex2310 that's 70% of the important ones, and I would throw KH2 there too
@@gorbla1231 yes, and I mean everything before scala ad calum, should have been integrated through the game, saving aqua and ventus, fighting the xehanorts through the game
@@runicex2310you don't seem to understand.
The end segment of the game had 3-5 plot points that could have easily been distributed earlier in the game.
For example, rather then save aqua all the way at the end. Sora could partially unlock the power of waking and end up with riku, saving her 2 worlds in.
Then they can say, Aqua needs time to rest before going to get ventus and you need to pass 2 more worlds before going to go get him. Etc etc.
Instead.
Essentially NOTHING happened during the actual game until we were down to the last few hours and suddenly, we get 20 plot points a minute
It wouldn’t have been so bad if they hadn’t wrapped up EVERY single story plot in the last 10 minutes of the last quest. Going from group to group to finish their story was very disappointing. Also making the game more of a “kingdom hearts for everyone” instead of for the fans hurt the entire fanbase that has been waiting for this game for years. Very sad.
@@Italiansauseege yeah. It could have been easily fixed too.
Just split plot points, 2 worlds apart
Beat 2 worlds. They save aqua.
But they can't get ven because, she just got freed from hell. She needs to rest.
Beat 2 more worlds. Save Ven. Now he needs to rest.
Etc etc
Nothing would've changed and the game itself would have felt more rewarding to play as your not waiting ages for the plot to actually start
I think there's a lot of issues I have with the gameplay too. at least compared to the second game, the gameplay feels repetitive and drags, and it doesn't have the same rpg details as KH1 and KH2
You don't make your last entry for everyone... You make the soft reboot or arc change for everyone.
Yeah it makes me feel like kh4 is gonna be an over glorified mod of kh3.
@@juicybuttercup5393 completely agree
Ive always felt like kh3 is exactly what people who refuse to give kingdom hearts a chance think kingdom hearts is. And that's always made me deeply upset.
This right here, is exactly how it feels. Can’t even tell people to get into the series because it leads exactly to what they thought was wrong with the series to begin with
@@mathewgilbert9190 I've recommended it to people with the caveat that kh3 ruined it for me, and explaining that I feel nothing for kh4 because of it.
@@oathkeeperofoblivion972 ironically, I’m actually more excited for KH4, but only after playing Re:Mind, which really just put a band-aid over the game. But KH4 is the last chance the series has before I’m done with it.
@@mathewgilbert9190 I didn't sign up for versus 13. I'm glad Numora is making what he wants but. It's not something I have any interest in whatsoever.
Even if it weren't for that. Every plot point I was invested in is tied up, whether it's in a way I like or not. There's....nothing left for me. So I won't bother getting excited, cuz I don't have anything to get excited about.
@@oathkeeperofoblivion972 I’m kind of rooting for him at this point. Square kicked him off the development for versus XIII,which supposedly was gonna be his magnum opus, to focus on KH3. But my theory is that Disney didn’t want Nomura to make the KH3 he envisioned for the series. That’s why the game was “made for everyone,” so anyone could hop on to the story. I’m also willing to bet Disney is the reason there were exclusively no FF character til the DLC and that’s why the worlds felt very bland, because they didn’t want to make a Kingdom hearts game, they literally wanted to retell their stories and make sure Sora didn’t effect the overall plot of their movies, for meta sake.
I think KH4 is a middle finger to both Disney and Square for ruining both things he wanted to make
It would have been cool to have longer cutscenes of the trios reuniting but it would have killed the pacing of the climax if after each battle we got a 3 minute cutscene
i agree, but i rebuttal with they could've paced the entire ending better
But like.....they already DID that, because every time we beat a boss, we got a cutscene of the organization members. The pacing was already dead
I'd never say kh3 was bad.
My main 2 complaints were always
1. It was way too easy on release
And
2. The story pacing was all squished to the last 20 % of the game. Causing me to stop caring about the last 2 worlds and rush through them. That's not a problem previous games had
I think something else to consider which you did touch on was the amount of time spent waiting for KH3. 6.5 years from Dream Drop Distance and 8.3ish years from Birth by Sleep. So much time for fans to generate their own scenarios, interactions, etc of what could happen only to be met with, "Yay we saved them! Alright, gotta go!". Hype for KH3 really gave fans a false sense of rose colored glasses. (I might be using the idiom wrong, lol) In all fairness, it was a keyblade "War" which means Sora ain't got time for that sentimental shite lol.
It is a bummer, and something I tend to complain about when it comes to other franchises and even in anime. We're just forced to accept interactions we really want to see just happen off screen. I mean hell, it's what drives so many people to write and/or read fanfiction which ties to what I said in the beginning.
Anyway, enjoyed the video and your takes on the game. Personally, I like the game if we're including Re:Mind, and I only like the game slightly less without it. I'm more of a take what I can get kind of guy, haha.
Well said
For some reason everyone refuses to acknowledge that normura was made to work on 3 games at once. One of which he didn't even know was coming. While I don't think kh3 was bad, it did leave me wanting in a way. I forgive nomura but I do blame square as a whole.
I also blame Disney for not allowing Nomura to create more original story, for some of their movies, most famous being the Arendelle world.
@@nesoukkefka1741I blame Disney more than Square since Disney owns all the original Kingdom Hearts characters along with their own characters. There aren’t any FF characters (unless you count Verum Rex ig) in KH3.
You blame Disney for Nomura saving 99% of the story for the very end? Or looking for crabs? Or the cast being completely useless besides Sora? Cope. Pure cope.
Not the worst. But I had finished KH2 days before and gameplay wise Kh3 was very floaty, story wasn't as good. It was all Disney world after world. And usually you would have the KH story in-between worlds but for most of the worlds is just some black coats messing with the world and being mysterious and then it's all left for the last act and they throw ALL the KH lore we have been waiting for for the last hours on the game. I love kingdom hearts. kH1 was my very first PS2 video game , the cgi cutscene left me completely mesmerized and was burned to my retinas, and Kh3 made me cry like a baby with the ending,but I had to dig a huge hole to get there.
I think the most disappointing part of 3 is how Riku felt completely sidelined especially after the insanely epic fight with Xemnas at the end of 2 where Sora and Riku showed off their teamwork and how much it felt like a satisfying conclusion to both their arcs in how they each matured from their individual journeys. Not to mention how they pushed Riku even more into the spotlight with DDD that I was expecting to be able to either have Riku in the party for 3 or at least be able to play a good chunk of the game with him, but no. He honestly needed to have more prominence in 3.
as someone who knew very little about the KH series going into KH3, i also felt like there were things that were missing. my first thought going through the game was "who are all these people and why should i care?", which didn't get answered until i went back and learned the story. but going back to it after learning more about the entire series makes it still feelriddled with holes.
Yeah, imagine following the series for years since the first game which started out with a simple enough premise but overtime became this convoluted mess of a plotholes and retcons
@@soulkibble1466I think that because after kh2 and bbs he wanted to make v13 with the ideas he had for a while before kh2 so he started introducing new characters with the games after bbs thinking that he could turn kh3 in v13. I wonder how kh3 woulda turned out if the og v13 released
As much as Roxas coming back was pretty obvious for many fans, I always felt him not coming back would have been more emotionally impactful. Like, they could have ot where Roxas temporarily takes control of Sora during the fight where he helps Xion and Axel and after the fight, Roxas would reassure them that he'll always be there for them because after all, Roxas is Sora. But that's just me.
Other than that, I felt that the other keyblade wielders didn't contribute much sadly. Like, remember when Sora and Riku fought side by side to defeat Xemnas? That was such a spectacle that felt like a satisfying conclusion to both Sora's and Riku's journey. Sora had matured and become a Hero for the Realm of Light while Riku conquered the darkness in his heart and created his own path to become a Hero of Darkness. The final fight in 3 should have had all the keyblade welders fighting alongside Sora or Hell could have been Sora, Riku and Kairi or something
This is Sora we're talking about. The world gave up on Roxas but he never did. Sora is the connection. That's why I'm fine with Roxas coming back, because he was never supposed to exist and he was never supposed to come back, but Sora wasn't happy with that.
@@REDEEMERWOLFI actually agree with you. However the way they went about it was so bad it just felt like pure fan service and nothing else. It should’ve been a fleshed out plot point
@redeemerwolf I get that. It's just the whole Replica stuff felt so rushed not helped by the fact that we get all this plot dump at the end instead of it being spread out. Would feel more satisfying if we did save Terra, Ven, and whatnot throughout the course of the game and boss fights with the Organization Members in the Disney Worlds where the resulting clash created the fragments of the X-Blade so there was that tension much like in Two when Sora learned killing Heartless was what the Organization wanted him to do and he had that moment of doubt
I will say this Aqua vs Vanitas kinda makes sense cuz Aqua hadnt fought since she lost her blade and she wasnt ready for a fight.
The game wasn't bad. It was just deemed bad by people who tried to hype it up as the next KH2.
Saving Terra was honestly the most emotionally satisfying part of the entire game. Every time, it is literal goosebumps for me when I watch it
its good stuff
Ok I get it. You don't like Disney...sorry to disappoint you but Kingdom Hearts is and was always a Disney game. If they decide to fully animate scenes from Frozen to respect the source material then let them do that without complaining about it what...10 times or so? And if Disney says they have to not interfere to much with the movies then there is no working around it. Frozen had the most regulations of all worlds.
Aside from that I don't know if you tried to hold informations back willingfully and distort other informations because you didn't know better or didn't care better. We know the person in the secret ending which shapes a Heart out of the moon with their hands is the Master of Masters. This was not known by release but this is supposed a video 5 years after and Nomura already confirmed this. Aqua was not beaten by Vanitas because she is bad but to protect Ven but you left this information fully out of context to just say: Well she is just bad. You also did not explain how Xion etc return and complain about it and say the same time it happened to fast while the whole scene and the whole bringing her back sequence is way longer then the reanimation of Elsa's castle construction. Also Xigbar has a dark pillar before he is defeated....you fight 12 Replicas not 13....I actually get the impression you tried to not really care enough about the informations to just make this many mistakes.
And the next thing and this annoyed me the most: "Would be better if it was in the base game". This is a complaint that has nothing to do in this video. It is a five years after video and you complain about stuff 5 years ago. I really want to hear then also complains about every other KH entry which wasn't full before a new rerelease. Re:Mind is not an extra game and it is also not sold as an extra game. If you buy KH3 nowadays you buy it with Re:Mind the same way you bought Final Mix versions extra before. And I certainly am more happy with a pricey DLC then buying the whole game anew because they still make FM versions. So consider the DLC as part of the game and not something entirely cut off of the game. The reason why you don't see all those stuff in the playthrough before Re:Mind ist because of the expierience Sora sees in and after his time travel.
I really looked forward to a video like this just to see someone complaining about stuff not even fitting for the video and giving a lot of wrong informations.
It was bad , no substance , no coherent story , barely any villain motivation, combat system needed a dlc and ripped moved from Kh2fm just to be good , ending was bad , dialogue is horrendous, no real purpose for visiting the world that you do (and if there was a purpose it was some ret conned bull made up by square to justify it ) no hollow bastion , no really good secret boss (e.g Sephiroth in kh2 ) Disney worlds were basically a giant ad and uncreative level design … man I could on dude
One of my top 3 favorite games of all time. Storywise it ain't the best, but the gameplay is too peak for me to care.
I've loved the ending of KH3 since my first playthrough. The more and more I learned in Cross and Dark Roads and Re:mind made me love it even more. It feels like a lot of criticism is pointing at feeling like the characters deserved more. Which I can sympathize with, like expecting daybreak trio to exact revenge for what happened. Or saying that Xehanort is why we are all here. I feel like the end of KH3, granted you NEED knowledge of MoM and Cross and Dark Road and Back Cover (lmao), was exactly what it should've been. The mantle of light is what changes this predetermined future. The reason we are here is MoM's/Luxu/Foretellers doing. Not Xehanort. And The Seeker of darkness could have only been beaten by the mantle of light, not any other trio.
During the frozen area, I feel like sora could've had a small musical fight with the gang trying to get Elsa to see what she's doing instead of letting her powers run wild, much like Riku, with Larxien tempting her more and more reminding her why she's doing what she's doing, that would've been a more interesting dynamic for the world, even letting it show that darkness is still watching and waiting during really weighted decisions, allowing Elsa to have a taste of their power if she desired to.
Kingdom Hearts III was a very terrible finale because it wasn't one, despite what it was advertised to be. As just another game in the series, it's fine enough. It has its weaknesses, but it has a lot of upsides, too.
The problem is the other ones all had decent endings despite not being finales
yes, it was the end of a saga, not the series but thats zero excuse to rush through that story just to set up the next one.
KH3 has no sense of finality for the storyline it was wrapping up, a storyline almost 20 years old at that point. KH2 wasn't one either, and its ending feels conclusive for the characters as they were at the time which is absolute proof KH3 has no excuse to be excessively bad at finishing something.
2 was better in every way aside from the graphics and keyboard transformations. 4 has a lot to do to impress the fan base again.
Kh2 was far worse in terms of story and characters. Sora was OOC and unlikable. Donald and goofy were practically irrelevant. Kh3 was a lot deeper and more mature in terms of theme and story.
I think you should look at KH2 again, it has a LOT of things worse than KH3, like it doesn't have a Retry botton, you need to redo your entire menu again before the fight if you did in that room, it is lacking in dodging mechanics for most of the game, maps are way too linear and have barely any design as you simply go back and forth in corridors most of the time, you need to get out of the worlds if you want to go in another save point location of the same world, you can't even keep cameos party members without taking off Donald or Goofy, mobility is meh for a big part of the game and so on.
@@gustavos.8511 don't forget the horrendous drive form grind that then punishes you for doing what the game makes mandatory to get movement options (by making you grind for movement options, the game basically locks you out of forms for a lot of the fights when you want to use them). Also, it hides how to gain exp for said forms in a menu that no one ever looks at.
@@tombolt13thexehanort29 not only that, but the geniuses made Anti form as a "punishment" for abusing Drive forms, you know, the ones they force the player to abuse in order to get decent growth abilities...
Also in KH2FM there was an extremely dumb glitch that is depending if you do part of the Tron world after you completed cave of remembrance, the exit you unlocked will be closed and you need to do the whole path again EVERY time, it happened to me on my first save file....
I believe each world was a learning point for Sora to get his confidence and power back
I would've thought the final battle underneath water was random too, if you hadn't also fought in the sky. Maybe they were doing a land, sea, sky tribute to the heroes' name themes? Or it could be me giving the developers too much credit. 😅
I feel like it’s biggest “issue” was always that due to the long wait for the game, the expectations got far above what could have been delivered, people set the bar too high, and as such felt let down by the (still very good) game.
Yeah, no.
As a challenge runner, its gameplay was fantastic for me after all the patches and dlc, it also has the best superbosses in the entire series.
It has problems for sure (no kh game is perfect) but the amount of fun I had with the combat was at least equal to kh2fm.
And people tends to forget how much contents vanilla kh2 didn't have as well (gameplay-wise)
So some Sora not kissing a certain someone gives the game a 0/10.
I'll let you guess between Riku and Kairi.
@@Pasakoye I believe in namine supremacy
@M.W.2 based
Sora not kissing Kairi may not be what single-handedly makes KH3 bad...but for people who have played since the very beginning back in 2002, you can understand why some people were pissed off. We've literally watched Square Enix tease us with the Paopu Fruit symbolism and whole "their destinies become interwinded...no matter what" thing for almost *_twenty goddamn years_* So after all that, Sora not only never kisses Kairi, but he never even says "I love you" once to her. *_Travesty of writing._*
@@AtomicF0x they definitely wanted sora and riku to kiss
I feel like people say that about both of those characters, lmao!
Given how much wrapup they had to do, it would not have been unreasonable for them to Avengers Infinity war/Endgame it, and make the entire game one long ending to the saga. Wheel of Time's "A memory of light" understands this task well as the capstone of a 14 book saga. The approach they took would have been fine for a 3 game saga, but adding the BBS plotlines, and then on top of that barely using the disney world elements, gave them too much to do in the final act. A problem made profoundly worse to what i think is a major part of the game's demographic, "casual" fans who played 1 on ps2 in their childhood, 2 on ps3 a few years later, and then 3. This demographic would have had no idea what the hell's going on, and by better pacing the plot points throughout the game, there was room to help these people enjoy what's going on. I think KH3 should have opened with what we got as a separate item in the 2.8 collection, "A fragmentary passage" which with little or no retooling would have set up the BBS characters for this demographic, and allowed that part of the plot to land better. Do what KH2 did and start us off playing another character to explore an idea, then fold it back into the plot later.
I also think the selection of disney worlds this time around was weak, largely for how weakly many of them tied into the main plot of the game, when often they shouldn't have been. I'll give an A+ to monstropolis though, as the fight against corropted emptions weally did fit that setting. A basic example of this disconnect is the Frozen world, where the main plot stalls while we watch frozen play out. Frozen is a story about learning to love yourself and those who care for you. I think Sora was the wrong character to experience that, cause he has nothing to learn here.
I have NO idea what about all this hate on kh3, when I got it and played it, it was really fun and emotional and having seen different perspective of other characters is pretty interesting, songs are peak, I like the form changing, is like lesser drive forms but I like em and the seeing Sora cry just hurts me when he cried out in pain
I didn't like the combat as much as KH2 because of how floaty it was but I also feel like it was 50% "cutscene". Even the footage you chose had a lot of "cutscene" in it. Every attraction/keyblade transformation was just 'hit a button and everything around you collapses' which felt like a cutscene with an extra step. I know you could just not use those but then every 10 steps there was like 10-15 insane hp sponges in front of you where you're just doing your 3 hit floaty combo for way too long. I couldn't even last more than a few hours in that game which was disappointing because of how much I loved KH1&2.
I couldn't agree more. Love kingdom hearts and thank you for all the effort you put into making this video
Nice job on the video, your favorite cut scene in the series is also my favorite scene, when I finished the birth by sleep game I nearly cried for 30 minutes
same! its such an emotional scene
Loved every part of KH3 except it's story. The DLC was truly it's saving grace.
ALSO YES YES YES IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
Then you dudnt like kh to begin with
it was so fun.
@pascalfernandes6957 that's like saying i hated the entire meal cause I didn't like the desert. It was a mediocre attempt at a conclusion till the DLC came out.
@@Sappyhourr I'm happy you made the video in such a short amount of time
Nope fight me kh3 was a MASTERPIECE. Sue me
i totally agree
It's my favorite game.
Though KH, KH2, BBS, 3D, and Days are all close.
I ain't sueing because I agree.
O nah. You must be one of them trolls.
@@bronsonisaboss I'm not trolling.
Yes because of the pieces set up beforehand, set it up for failure. 3D's introduction of time travel and bringing back organization XIII as normal people and making Roxas his own character just slapped KHIIs powerful moments in the face, and cluttering the combat with gameplay elements from every game without thinking how they'd interact with each other was just disappointing and boring, aswell as flow motion. Nomura's wierd aversion to having FF characters who were central to the plot previous games, bringing back every dead character, making the lackey Xigbar a central player in a larger scheme, everything scream ameteur writing.
Good game, in general, bad kingdom hearts.
“Good game, in general, bad kingdom hearts.”
Generally this what I’m getting from the comments. I think the game was a solid 8/10 based off gameplay, graphics, and overall fun. But I think the story part is where ppl have the most critique.
@@DruuCPR the gameplay sucked ass so bad they had to charge people money for it to be slightly better
A few days ago i finished KH3 and Re:Mind after playing (most) of the rest of the games for the first time. Ngl, KH3 SLAPS! And I cried so much
Ventus shouldve struck xehanort down while xehanort and eraqus were talking, maybe even ven's keyblade transforming into missing ache
His lingering darkness from he previous era would be teased and of all the people xehanort has hurt ventus got it the worst
Unpopular opinion but I thought KH3 was a lot better than KH2. It felt let we finally got back to the roots that KH1 built.
All honesty I think KH3 only had 1 core issue and that was the fact that it had the responsability of wrapping up 12 other games and still be its own game all at the same time. It was doomed to fail in a lot of aspects because of this. If they spent more time on wrapping up peoples story and less time on the Disney worlds then the new complant would have just been it feels like its not its own game. I don't know it doesn't feel like KH3 failed its more like Square set it up for failure. And even with the impossible task it had infront of it, I think they knocked it out of the park. They honestly needed one more game before KH3 came out where the focus was on Sora gaining the Power of Waking and it ended with us saving Aqua. Then KH3 could have had a proper start with Aqua at lvl one in Destany Island, training to regain her strength before they go to save Ven.
One thing I hear a lot is that this game doesn't have a middle point like KH2. I agree but I don't see why that's a bad thing. I think we feel this way because KH3 much like KH1 is consistantaly intresting and good all the way through. Very few low points(which is completely subjective depening on what worlds you didn't like). KH2 mid point was absolutly phenominal but didn't have consistancy at all until you get to the 2nd passes of worlds.
But this is just my opinion.
Remember: Tetsiya Nikita is not a good director, he puts his games into development hell without having a handler
Arendell definitely feels the most messy in terms of worlds. In the past I've seen people say that it was likely completely different before they had to restructure it to fit what they were told to do. The biggest outlier is the Ice Maze. And the fact Larxene made it.
One major thing to consider about the Disney worlds feeling the way they do is almost surely John Lasseter.
In addition to being a creep, he is known to be a complete control freak over the portrayals of characters from any of the franchises he feels ownership over, which was anything from Pixar and after Disney acquired Pixar in 06 and he became head of Disney Animation anything they made after that. So... Toy Story, Monsters Inc, Tangled, Frozen and Big Hero 6.
This is almost surely why the KH team was so strongly handcuffed on what they were and were not able to do with the Disney worlds. Especially Frozen, which was obviously gutted from it's original plans of having Elsa become the heartless boss and only allowing for Marshmallow as a party member.
Kairy is supposedly one of the strongest characters at wielding light and she's a damsel in distress for 2 games as a keyblade wielder
i know right
@@Sappyhourr Remember when two of the strongest fighters in our team struggled because they were half full of darkness?
I could have fought everyone easy peasy without that temptation but sora would feel emasculated
Short answer yes
Crackpot theory yozora is sora from an alternate timeline😂
Makes sense that’s what I be saying
subbing bc i’ve been here before and u have a mastery of editing 🔥
The only issue KH3 had was the fandom. People hyped up this game so much that it could never match their expectations. I, too, was excited for the game, but I set realistic expectations and therefore was not disappointed. I got exactly what I wanted out of this game, and the DLC was just the icing on the cake.
Definitely would love to see more out of the trios - I’m pretty sure in kh4 we going to see more of that while they figure out how to get to sora like how Riku did in the end MoM
same i agree
31:25 Maleficant knows about the box. I don't exactly remember all details but it was part of the UXs story. Something about post-KH2 Maleficant learning to time travel to UXs time.
Sora: I'm going to go save Kairi!
Riku: We support your decision to save Kairi.
Everyone: Good luck saving Kairi!
Terra: .................. who?
He only gave up becaus eraques came in.
thats why he killed him eraques is his weakness. How many zimes do you think hexstoped him. Nomura set up the way he avoids him in bbs on purpose. He planed this. Kh 3 was always gone be this qwayand noone forgave Xehanort.
I thought it worked very well and i loved kh3. That you think it didnt just means you misunderstood kh as al whole.
You akso miss how he wantet to see beyound the keybladewar.
XEHANORTS Punishment is badicly his Ultimate Death. He wobt see beyound it
And its still tragic.
Sora already was disapearing after saving Everyone and changing the timelines as sayed by YX.
Saving kairi was simply speeding it up. Nomura has planed the game like this since 2005 amd infact had the master of master and Quadratum as a Concept the seriesxwas heading in since kh 1 and planed out rhe overallstory of the series out during the kh 2 devolepment.
He Story is about Sora and Riku
The others only got the neccesary screentime.
It worked and honestly ther was no time in the story for scenes between roxas or ventus in bg.
Plus The gsne as a whole mirrors kh 1 plus the last fight having a crown symbole behind Not just Sora but also Dobakd and Goffy likely setscthem up as one Crown. All three of them together.
If you dont trust nomuras plan thats fine but you habe to atleast respect that he has as a individuel his own ideas works with a team and that outside of him other team kembers trow in ideas and in the end only he knews kh inside out.
A core aspect of The series is generationel traume and Forgiving even xour enemys.Sora tries to make friends with everyone. He yucceded her eher Xehanort as a child didnt.. xehanort killed Baldre Meanwhile Sora ttalked to him in anger but clearly intending to give him a chance, to redeme himself i asume.
But he was old and died of old age. Hectried zo jedp going but eraquase saw his oportunity to niw stop xehanort like he akways did. He is the only obe who forgave him becaus he knews xehanort meent well in the end creating balance.
MoM clearly has Kairi nit firgive xehanort though and nobody else forgave him.
This is kingdom hearts.yiur idea of what means differs from what it aculy is and that is ok again realy it is butthsz you didnt like kh 3 means you had this imige and relised you just dont like what kh aculy is
whole story was spread out over the whole game.
Nomura planned almost none of this. he's infamous for not putting much foresight into KH when it started getting sequels. but keep deflecting the game's shortcomings onto people its a good look for you just like the awful spelling 👍
I actually like that that stuff was DLC. It added weight to Re:mind which other wise would've been just a boss rush.
It would have been nice if the game had more of the original storyline between disney worlds. The climax felt so rushed due to back to back reveals and conclusions. It took away the impact of each scene and did allow room to breathe.
The disney worlds should have followed original stories like in precious games. Frozen was so unbelievably painful to get through.
I think the game is beautiful and playing it is fun. The cutscenes were definitely a lot though, ESPECIALLY when it was just frame by frame remakes of the Disney movies. I don't know why they put so little effort into Arendelle as a world, too-especially because Frozen is extremely popular. I remember hating trekking that world because it was so dull due to the icy, cold nature of it but there's certainly ways to make an icy world more vibrant and didn't have to be so confusing the run around through with every area being too similar in appearance. I actually liked POTC's world because of how much exploration it was and the mechanics of the ship were different than what we've done in the series so far. And the end where everyone gets reunited and revived is definitely fan servicey and extremely convenient but I don't mind it much. I just wish it wasn't so rushed and that there were more developments and explanations in the main game throughout for these reunions. But I'm still excited for KH4 when it comes out in 15 years.
Kh3 really was amazing. I think a big reason i love kh is the magic that it manages to bring me each game. Kh3 had me smiling the whole way through. One thing I don’t know if you mentioned is the trios relationship. I feel that sora donald and goofy’s relationship were also handled the best in 3. They all genuinely seemed like best friends, and the typically awkward dialogue was super charming the whole time. Kh3 is real comfort food in game format. The cutscenes may be super decorative, but kh3 would not be kh3 without its dedication to that Disney side of it. I honestly thought i would hate the cutscenes going in. I really agree about the climax however. I don’t think it was rushed personally, a climax would be a little less climatic if it had long cutscenes after every battle. But i do think they could have basically given the same amount of attention to the kh side of kh. But overall kh3 leans into the magic of this franchise. And i LOVE the music.
Another thing was that aside from Xigbar being Luxu (which came completely out of nowhere) the whole ending was predictable if you played DDD. You can pretty much assume that the next game was going to bring back all of those characters. I feel like the major story beats of DDD and KH3 could’ve been all in one game if reworked properly. Instead of Sora spending a whole game looking for the “power of waking” the premise would’ve been the same as DDD, aka the Mark of Mastery. Only difference is the worlds travelled would’ve been the KH3 worlds. Throughout the game you could’ve sprinkled all the main story beats of both games (since one happened right after the other) between each world. For the simple fact that there were no major story beats in KH3 until the end. After the Organization failed to capture Sora and you play as Riku, things really could’ve been written that they went straight to bringing back Ventus, Aqua, etc. Sora could’ve been brought back from his sleeping state with the power of waking and skipped a lot of BS.
My biggest issue here is how every complaint with Re:Mind is "it should've been in the main game." Yeah, it should have. But it wasn't because of the absolute hell that was the production of the game. But Re:Mind is KH3 Final Mix. The things here are the same level of changes compared to KH1 and KH2's Final Mix versions. If games didn't have shareholders and company executives to please and could be creative and tell the stories the creators want to tell, Re:Mind would have been base game. Did it meet expectations? No. But it was never going to meet expectations because DDD was released in 2012 and KH3 was released in 2019. Granted we had 3 remaster collections and two mobile games in that time and KH3 had to scrap everything in the middle of development when the developers were made to swap to unreal engine from an in house engine, I think that when you remove those inflated expectations, the game is perfectly serviceable. I give it a solid 7/10.
31:26 Maleficent and by extension Pete know about the box bc of what they learned in Re: Coded in the remake not the DS game and what "The Darkness" taught her in KHUX. I do not recall all of those cutscenes but it's in there.
its frustrating seeing all the groups reuniting and seeing what could have been be undercut from what feels like the story being rushed, is the game bad? no, but man they had so much time to piece it back together a bit consistently and naturally. thats really why i was frustrated with the whole thing.
The hand with disney with a lot of aspects of the story really do show in honestly a bad way most of the time. like for tangled i could see eugene/flynn actually coax sora because of his good nature to be there. and marluxia being used as a collabritive villan like they did was well setup, execution not, but good setup.
so something intresting when you look at how sora was able to block darkqua hitting riku is he basically teleport. in DDD sora actually gains a block command called link block that lets him teleport to his dream eaters when he blocks. and since riku is considered sora dream eater in a sense, its one of his odd random abilities hes retained.
one thing that was vary noticable to be about xehanort was each of the different versions of him self generally all were written for different reasons at different times. now the eventual reveal of him wanting to guide everyone as ruler was actually setup since BBS, but was it fully fleshed out during that time, imo no. just a eventual plan that nomura wanted to use him for that. he definintely needed to flesh this part out to.
the why sora and vanitas look at like is because of their connection to ventus before they both took a form. the english version absolutely was horrible at convaying this. and roxas looking like ven is the chain connection of ventus>sora>roxas. if nomura wants to actually make it more a reason for this, he gots a lot of work he would still need to do.
The power of waking bit was really bullshit. It totally undermined the reunion
Guh, I forgot about how they handled the story in Re:Mind. First FFXV tried to fix its story with post-launch DLC, now KH3 does, I just have no patience for Square Enix pushing story DLC at this point. Was FFXVI a complete story at least or did that also fall into this trap?
i liked it :/ but i’m only just now playing KH2. and i think my opinion of KH3 would be worse if i had KH2 to compare it to at the time.
so my experience was KH1 -> GBA Chain of Memories -> like an 11 year break -> KH1 Final Mix PS3 -> KH3 -> 5 year break -> KH1 FM Switch -> KH2 FM Switch immediately after.
Glad you put it this way. I don't think that people have nostalgia bias when they say they didn't like KH3. KH2 just gave KH3 a lot to hold up to and KH3 just didn't quite land
Now I am playing in crucial game mode, and now the bosses are fun as it got harder, yes you are right about how easy it was but I dont think that flying the whole time is a bad thing as it made the game for me more smooth. Some abilitys like super attacks of keyblades might made the game much easier but on the other hand some mob fights which I dont really care much were finished much faster and on DLC and in crucial game mode these abilitys made the game playable
I really loved the game, yes it could be better in some parts but yeah lets wait for kh4 I think some abilitys from this game were just intro for kh4
i agree bro
@@egehepsen7810 I also kinda feel like the combat being more floaty is a way to show just how skilled sora has become.
Kh 1 sora was grounded 90% of the time and had a super clunky glide ability.
Kh 3 sora is a mobile monster. Able to zip around the battlefield, like a spiderman on crack
The main issue with this game is that the story is so backloaded, you go from playing out Disney worlds exactly how they go in the movies while feeling like you're not doing much to the entire main story being dropped in front of you.
The Pixar worlds were great though and Re:Mind fixed a lot of the move convoluted plot points, mainly the Union X stuff because really how many people actually played through all that?
I finally played it in the past year and enjoyed the latter half of it a lot because I like info/lore dumps.
I do wish the organization was incorporated more throughout the worlds like in KH2, because that made the worlds more interesting.
No it was absolutely incredible. Give it another 5 years and EVERYONE is gonna love this game
Kh3 is amazing and I'm tired of pretending it's not
it is! has some flaws however. I think its great for gameplay but not story.
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@@AnAverageGoblin let me guess, you play call of duty and fortnite? It's no surprise you act like a massive brown stain the undies of the universe
Birth by sleep is floaty to arguably more than kh3
Duh. They didn’t learn anything with kh3 until people complained online that’s why they ripped moves from kh2. And it still don’t feel the same that’s why I’m not excited for kh4 but I’m glad it’s a thing
Thoughts before watching: Kingdom Hearts 3 was never a "bad game," but it was disappointing from the lens that it was supposed to conclude the story thus far.
If you were familiar with the KH unique characters, the Disney Worlds just felt like time padding, and if you weren't familiar with them, they didn't really do that good of a job introducing those characters. Then there's the whole giant fake out the first time you go into the final confrontation, followed by a complete rapid fire overload of attempts to conclude specific arcs that felt like they didn't get the proper amount of time to conclude properly. And then at the very end the main villain, instigator of all of the hardships the characters have gone through, basically just gets to walk off to an old folks home without apologizing for or repairing any of the damage he's done.
None of that was satisfying from a narrative perspective.
As a whole package video game though? It was plenty fun to play through and if you don't let yourself think too hard about the story there's plenty of cool flashy moments to enjoy.
I wouldn't doubt disney meddling was responsible for the Arendelle and Kingdom of Corona segments.
31:29 maleficent knows about the box from union X. She learned that from one of the pure darknesses
“But I’ll talk about that later”
bruh i knowwwwwwwww
Kingdom Hearts III spends too much time being a recap and even more time being a justification for why things need to play out as they do. As a result, it feels like the story isn't moving forward until Sora finishes up his time with Big Hero 6. And unlike other games in the series, Sora never even meets Master Xehanort until the end of the game despite him being the main villain.
I think Kingdom Hearts 3 was amazing yet it was never going to meet expectations of a fandom who have hyped it up since 2004.
Honesty KH3 is my favorite entry due to it being the culmination of my favorite KH titles both story and gameplay wise. I feel like this game gets a lot of backlash due to the strong KH2 nostalgia bias that has grown within the last decade. Either people want a carbon copy of KH2 story wise or people complain about the gameplay since it's an Osaka title and the physics are not like KH2. Don't get me wrong, I love KH2, but I feel like people's nostalgia and strong opinions on other KH titles are represented as facts instead of just opinions. And that stains people's perception of this game and puts KH2 even higher on a golden pedestal.
trash taste
the games is trivially easy unless you play critical (which wasnt an option on release) and then its just bullshit and not real difficulty. combat where you dont have to think and just mash x while sora magnetizes to the target no matter how far is objectively bad. kh2 sits on a pedestal for far more reasons than nostalgia.
@@dasavagecabbage9483don’t forget the stupid carnival things that are OP and make every battle easy af
Yes
I've grown to really like Kingdom Hearts 3. While 2 is still my favorite, Kingdom Hearts 3 despite in my opinion being weak story wise until the dlc, is such a fun game. It's basically how I feel about Insomniac's Spider-Man 2. Really fun game, story is weaker than the previous numbered entry, but I rate it an 8 out of 10 while the previous game is a 9 out of 10.
No, it wasn’t bad at all. Matter of fact. It resolves a lot of the story, the problem is the expectation after “13 years”
You can never live up to that.
@@MrZippyBlue it resolved it easily in 20 minutes at the end of the story. Making the 10 hours of story before that completely pointless. It's bad writing no matter how you look at it
I think this game was about love in all forms, family love for Ven Aqua and Terra, love of friends with sora and the gang, the love of crushing on someone with Kairi, and so on
i like that
This is where I finally gave up on the franchise. I remember being consistently disappointed by the new games ever since BBS but I always held out hope that KH3 would make it all worth it only to have the interesting bits of the plot practically speedrun by the writers instead of giving them the time and care they deserved. This is where I get off of Nomura's wild ride and I will not be coming back for anything else KH related.
For your sake and for other fans of the series I desperately hope that KH4 is GOOD with no caveats but I won't be sticking around to find out. The existence of Remind does not justify the fact that I spent full price on a game that's narrative was half baked at best.
It sucked
fair
gameplay was solid, graphics amazing, world/level design pretty good... but the writing and pacing and story were terrible. fundamentally bad decisions like cutting out the final fantasy content, cramming all the major story developments into the last chunk of the game, not having an explorable final world, just the complete pointlessness and aimlessness of the bulk of sora's journey, weird and bad retcons to the villain's motivations, the waste of most of the dide characters....
kh3 is nowhere near as bad as people have complained about overall and it does some things the best in the series. It's honestly pretty fun and I do like it overall. There was no way it was going to be able to tie up the spaghetti mess that the franchise story had been left in, edpecially after dream drop, so it's not really fair to condemn it for failing to do so, but even so, the degree to which the story fell on its face was kind of shocking, especially when compared to the impressively satisfying resolution of kh2
To me Sora didn’t feel like Sora. Like parts of him were there but all his edges felt smoothed out
while there are tons of things that bother me about KH3's plot overall, the biggest one is the dirty deed they did to Riku, they literally just replace his keyblade with no fanfair or shocking moment or real reason why especially for a keyblade that is supposed to be the embodiment of riku's journey and walking the path of both light and dark which that subplot seemed to have been dropped for again no reason other than lazyness, they just did it all off screen, which overall is my biggest problem is that the majority of this game's plot all happens off screen which is the biggest story telling sin my my book, Pokemon Sw/Sh had the same problem for me.
Best retrospective of kh3 I’ve watched. Nice video bro
If a game relies on DLC to have a complete feeling then something is fundamentally wrong with your game. I have never bought DLC and i never will.
Kingdom hearts 3 was a disappointment for some people because of how easy it was and I can’t blame them but Remind fixes that issue. The story was rushed but I’m glad that we ended the saga in this game
After watching this, i'm glad i didn't spend 100+ Aud on this game, i would have been pissed
I don’t care what anyone else thought 3 was my favorite. The story of 2 may be better but I enjoy playing and the experience of 3 much more.
the eye was on way to dawn rikus keyblade too so i dont think it really means anything
haven't watched yet, but kh3 is indeed the worst in my eyes. the trailers spoiled so much, also false advertisement. I expected to see 3 times the size of the worlds. a epic battle with dark baymax overrunning the city with heartless, yensid's world being playable, twilight town having a breakable wall of bricks to get to the mansion, xion rebuilt as the 13th due to young xehanort testing hearts in toy story to get a clue about a missing darkness to reclaim, vanitas looking for ventus and finding him in sora, aqua being one of the 13, the box being relevant, disney villans working with each other or xehanort, possible dive into world mechanic like ddd, everyone dying/failing in the final battle, sora survives to fight xehanort in scala ed calem which should be the kingdom hearts. And all this is what I expected from the trailers. We didn't even get semi open areas. the 2015 trailer showed sora jumping off the cliff to explore olympus, but traveling feels like your walking down hallways. The map even shows walls cutting off sections you should be able to jump or run over. also the attractions should have been scrapped, too overpowered and ruins boss fights. example : superbutterbuns clip of fighting Aqua with her saying "Do you like BOATS!?" aqua defeated soon after the atraction reaches halfway... and instead of giving us a happy ending for sora, noumora decided sora should sacrifice his life for kairi... a character that never got any development throughout the entire series. and what was sora's reason to be a jerk to data sora, "The datascape doesn't count, I need to be the one to thank you, but not until everything is over" thanks sora for making the sole reason to view re coded story meaningless...
I could honestly keep going, but then you'd just be reading how much and why I hate kingdom hearts III the novel.
I 98% agree with everything you said wholeheartedly. Except for Aqua losing to Vanitas. But id like to add some other issues. The game was to easy on Proud mode. And Square didnt do anything fkr the game aside from Remind, where's the upgrade to PS5? And Cloud vs Sephiroth 3
Edit: BBS has floaty mechanics to just like 3, it was dine by the same team Oasaka i think. Not the people who did 2.
yeah you're actually right
I love KH
Kingdom Hearts 3 is a great game, the issue with it is the writing. Characters and Plot were not handled well.
I felt that Dark Roads writing was handled wonderfully, its an immense shame KH3's writing was as bad as it was.
Problem with the game is outside of some few exceptions it was basically a succession of disney movie recap feat Sora, Donald and Gooffy (missing most of their story for some, like if you haven't watch the Pirates of the caraebean 2 and 3 good luck to understand what the fuck is happening in that world), instead of the epic finally the series was building toward.
As far as I'm concern tough, in term of story I started drifting away from the series with BBS, DDD was to me the final nail in the coffin that game was just so bad to me that I was certain there was no way KH3 could pull off a satisfying conclusion, and I was right so at least on that front my expectation were at 0. For me it's basically the same as the MCU I just wanted to see the end of the saga I had followed since being a child, and just like I stopped watching the MCU after the Avengers defeated Thanos, I'm stopping KH there with Xehanort defeated, and unlike MCU they didn't even bother to make the defeat of Xehanort satisfying and conclusive but whatever.
On the gameplay front the gameplay was fine, and since I was set that KH3 will be my final KH, for the first and only time I bought the DLC Re : Mind just for the Data fight... and at least gameplay wise I can say I'm fine with leaving the series there, the KH3 Data Fights were amazing and are what should have been the finally at least on the gameplay, each member of the Organization in epic boss fight mixing the mechanics and attacks from all their different apparitions in the series, with top music to boot and the final secret boss was gameplay my favorite fight in the series, so at least gameplay wise I'm happy that I'm leaving the serie on an high note.
It felt like kh3 was rushly made so nomura could immediately start work on his salty runback of ffvs13 using kingdom hearts as an excuse
It was good enough for a playtrough, but not for multiple, which both 1 and 2 were.
KH3 was basically a giant Disney ad, no FF characters, and they put all of the plot in the last 4 hours of the game. On top of that xehanort, a guy who was brought up to be a ruthless destroyer of worlds said sorry and was a good guy at the last second. The mobile games ruined kingdom hearts because that's where the fo us shifted, and KH3 was a nail in that coffin because they realized the mobile story was what they wanted to focus on instead of the previous one.
Anyone who claims it's a masterpiece is either dumb or a Disney shill. Also combat was not tuned at launch. The game was insanely easy.
Moogles are FF characters and a couple FF characters appear in the dlc
at least get your whinging about this awful game right dude.
@AnAverageGoblin stfu moogles are specific to each game so NO there aren't any FF characters. And who gives a fuck about DLC that costs half the game. That wasn't what I was talking about. DLC doesn't make the base game better and getting a small clip of a few ff characters that were shoehorned in a year later after people were bitching about it doesn't count either. So get your facts strait and kick rocks nerd.
18:07 That Keyblade War tho. If you was there you'd know. 🙈🙉🙊
Yeah because the combat has been floaty ever since Osaka team took over. Kh2 played the best and no amount of flowmotion or d-links or summons or shot locks can change that it feels bad to move in.
Who made that Rihanna mix ??