I appreciated that you differentiate between etiquette (the accepted, technical method) and manners (the spirit and intention behind doing something) while emphasizing that manners are the more important of the two.
6:02 Yasss thank you! People often forget that etiquette is there to guide you to be considerate, and be mindful of other people around you. Not just for you to show off. Some people use it like an offensive weapon to make feel people inferior, when the whole point of it is to make people around you comfortable by being kinder so not to offend. There might be a slight difference between good manners and ettiquette but it can make a huge difference!
That's how it *should* be, but some etiquette rules are more like habits. For example, I don't think it makes any difference to anyone if the bread plate is near the edge of the table or not. Or how you hold a champagne flute. I also think people should be allowed to have a bathroom break during a long formal dinner. It's rules like these, that don't make any sense, that are often used as weapons or means of power, too, because you can't deduce them. You have to be told.
Well since 90% of the first Princess Diaries film was the misadventures of a 16 year old girl discovering that she is actually a princess, etiquette mistakes were legion. The mistakes by the people who were supposed to have been steeped in protocol however, are less forgivable.
I think, the couples sitting together despite it being against etiquette has a simple reason: The film makers wanted to make sure that the audience understood, who belongs together by showing them next to each other. This is especially true, because the movie is made for children and teenagers, too, not only adults who are able to figure out how people are connected by listening to their conversations and hearing their names and stuff like that.
It's so silly. It's not like this rule is in the Bible, like God ordained it or something. I think even Royals would understand if you had to go. They're the ones with the power in this setting, too, they could just decide to change that rule.
You are expected to take care of that before the meal, if you truly had a medical emergency you would simply excuse yourself and no need to explain why unless you needed a doctor’s care.
Women not crossing their legs at the knees was a Victorian era thing. Only crossing your legs at the ankles was acceptable. Maybe Genovia is just really old school in that respect. 😀
Will never understand the pressure of the people at the table. This would be like answering an exam with live scrutiny every time one would have any meal.
@@monmothma3358 There are four primary schools of table etiquette which you use based on what country you’re in, American, Continental, European, and British. Continental is your best style to use to be diplomatic, since it’s a combination of American and British styles. It’s main feature is always keeping the knife in the right hand and the fork in the left hand and not switching.
@@cecilyerker I'm from the US, and the more I watched stuff from across the Pond, the more I found myself unconsciously taking certain things on board, including how to cut and eat my food. I never really could quite understand the switching hands thing that most of my fellow Americans do. Feels like a waste of motion/energy to me. 🤷♀️
"That man is holding his cutlery completely incorrectly. He is supposed to be from scottland but they do know how to hold their cutlery in Scotland." 🤣 yes!
It's more the fact that in Europe, people great each other with one/two kisses on the cheek, while americans just go around shaking everyone's hands, that's very businessman-like.
This guy is pointing out all the reasons I didn’t like this movie as a kid but didn’t fully understand or couldn’t articulate why. I also didn’t like Anne Hathaway because she was so over-the-top and had no self awareness and was like “I’m so quirky and relatable!” Except I couldn’t relate to her at all because she acted like a toddler.
Remember the book was written by an American, about an American 12 year old that discovers in middle school her dad was a prince in a European country so yes, decorum will have its unique differences. That includes Napkin Rings.
@@cecilyerker She was trying to clean up her mess; she did not know that would be handled for her. So Mia was showing good manners, just not established etiquette
Just found this channel and love it. Informative and such a wonderful sense of humour - brilliant. Oh, on a completely unrelated topic - love the yellow watchband with the Apple Watch - one of my favorite combinations as well. You are also rather handsome, so I’ll definitely be catching up on all the videos I’ve missed.
Good morning William, I was about to go to sleep but it seems that will have to be postponed until I can finish this fantastic video! Please keep up the good work! Gen Z is desperate to level up! Yours sincerely, Nimi
Nice video, this gave me even more of an appreciation for Princess Diaries. I know that may not have been your point but I loved that Mia didn't become the Perfect Princess immediately. She had tremendous fumbles and she knew she still had a long way to go but it didn't stop her from accepting her fate as Amelia Mignonette Thermopolis Renaldi, Princess of Genovia.
Two reasons, with Russian to provide the archaisms English has lost during its transition from Early Modern to Modern: - Wherefore? Почему? - Because they might produce a more scintillating conversation. - Why? Зачем? - To reduce conspiracy.
Probably just use the same consideration of others in your wheelchair as when you would walk. Such as being careful and deliberate, using good posture, and not running and bumping into others. Not bouncing up and down and correcting her slump was the main things Mina had to learn in the movie.
I love this movie! Part of the reason I love it is she's so awkward trying to learn how to be a princess but she still has fun trying to learn how to do it.
"Mix" is a verb. "Mixture" is a noun. Wm. do not imitate the ways of uneducated nor untrained folks, no matter how much money or social rank they may have. Remember, Wm., money and social rank count for zero, rightness counts for all. Give heed to parts of speech. Every word began as one part of speech. In history, any deviation therefrom were a mistakin. For a mistakin to become commonplace does not make it to be any less a mistakin. The masses of folks have no authority to set standards. Only the best folks have the authority to set standards, and, then, only in accord with historical reality of origins of words. And remember, in gaugin bestness, money and social rank count zero. Only historical and logical accuracy count.
My foster parents were Taiwanese and i was never allowed to sit w my legs crossed..only right over left at the ankles as only "loose" women crossed their legs..
You aren’t really supposed to wear a tiara unless it’s a white tie event-this one was a black tie event. Of course, in modern times we tend to think of Queens/Princesses as wearing tiaras all the time, but that’s not the case. Tiaras aren’t a Royal thing, it’s just a type of headdress many Royal women like to wear.
On the objection to only 2 glasses, I believe this is because the Princess is a minor and not allowed to drink alcohol. I noticed the Queen of Genovia’s setting (and the other adult’s settings) have three glasses. In real life, how would royalty set a table for a person who will not be drinking alcohol? Not only are the issues with underage attendees, but I am certain there has been a history of inviting people whom the host knows does not drink alcohol and, if they are in recovery, should not be awkwardly tempted to drink by the placement of wine glasses at his or her setting.
I doubt he'll see this, but just in case, I have two questions: 1) regarding the rule about married women wearing tiaras - would that include widows? and 2) what's the reasoning behind seating couples apart?
I know about the second one. It is because couples live together all day every day, and how much would they have to say to each other? Or if they are freshly married and very much in love, they would make a little cocoon and isolate themselves. In a social gathering, the goal is to mingle and make acquaintances, and hear new, different things and perspectives.
‘Nice to meet you..’
“You can clearly tell that this movie’s been made by Americans.” 😂😂😂
and you can absolutely tell that it's a diss xD
I appreciated that you differentiate between etiquette (the accepted, technical method) and manners (the spirit and intention behind doing something) while emphasizing that manners are the more important of the two.
2k like and four years later, here's your first reply. hehe.
@elielfelipecampos8527 - ... and four hours later here's your first like!
You clearly aren't familiar with GENOVIAN etiquette, William.
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ok, this took me awhile to get LOL
William was being ironic, given that he well knows Genovia is fictitious.
@@sergioalmasy8722 I'm joking, dude. Don't be so literal.
@@CaseyBlizzard I know you were joking, literally, I'm literally not taking your comment literally, but William was being ironic... Literally!😆😆😆😁😁
6:02 Yasss thank you! People often forget that etiquette is there to guide you to be considerate, and be mindful of other people around you. Not just for you to show off. Some people use it like an offensive weapon to make feel people inferior, when the whole point of it is to make people around you comfortable by being kinder so not to offend. There might be a slight difference between good manners and ettiquette but it can make a huge difference!
That's how it *should* be, but some etiquette rules are more like habits. For example, I don't think it makes any difference to anyone if the bread plate is near the edge of the table or not. Or how you hold a champagne flute. I also think people should be allowed to have a bathroom break during a long formal dinner. It's rules like these, that don't make any sense, that are often used as weapons or means of power, too, because you can't deduce them. You have to be told.
Please do Princess dairies 2 as this was fantastic.
They did a second movie and they are now working on a third
Wait.... There's a princess diary 2?!?!
@@arinrumi YES
He sounds like how Americans THINK we sound
He Sounds like we all in the Rest of the world think you sound!
Whose "we"??!!
Well since 90% of the first Princess Diaries film was the misadventures of a 16 year old girl discovering that she is actually a princess, etiquette mistakes were legion. The mistakes by the people who were supposed to have been steeped in protocol however, are less forgivable.
I think, the couples sitting together despite it being against etiquette has a simple reason:
The film makers wanted to make sure that the audience understood, who belongs together by showing them next to each other. This is especially true, because the movie is made for children and teenagers, too, not only adults who are able to figure out how people are connected by listening to their conversations and hearing their names and stuff like that.
Quivk question - why would couples normally not be placed together?
@@boardgamejuliaI believe it involves promoting conversation within the party of guests.
I’m terrified of you and I love you at the same time!
Could you also pls review Downton Abbey movies/tv series?
La vie Est belle he’s written various articles about the etiquette of Downton. I think most of them can be found on the Huffington post website. 😀
I asked him the same question !! Or what about Dynasty ?? ;-)
excuse me, Julie Andrews can do what she likes because she's Julie Andrews.
Not being allowed to go to the toilet is crazy, what if you have some sort of medical condition?
Or your period😅...
Lol from what I've heard their still aren't allowed.
It's so silly. It's not like this rule is in the Bible, like God ordained it or something. I think even Royals would understand if you had to go. They're the ones with the power in this setting, too, they could just decide to change that rule.
You are expected to take care of that before the meal, if you truly had a medical emergency you would simply excuse yourself and no need to explain why unless you needed a doctor’s care.
@@cecilyerker I heard it’s ok to go in between courses, such as when plates are cleared away
Women not crossing their legs at the knees was a Victorian era thing. Only crossing your legs at the ankles was acceptable. Maybe Genovia is just really old school in that respect. 😀
It also makes it so nobody is likely to trip when walking past you.
Also, Mia and Clarisse were both wearing shorter skirts, so Clarisse likely just put a firm ban on crossing legs because Mia might forget otherwise.
Will never understand the pressure of the people at the table. This would be like answering an exam with live scrutiny every time one would have any meal.
"I can take no more"😂😂😂😂
Can we get a full breakdown of the film? Loving watching William struggle along. 🤣
I'M IN HYSTERICS.
I didn't think I'd be watching etiquette post-mortems of 00s movies today but here we are
SAME! I came here via another video where he answered twitter etiquette questions over him commenting on The Crown.
@@boardgamejulia oh dear, could be down worse rabbit holes i suppose!
Miracles happen once in awhile...
This was great! Educational and funny. Please consider doing more of these in the future.
Mr William Hanson, you are quite frankly a breath of fresh, vintage air in today's world. All the best sir.
My favorite movie being critiqued by my favorite etiquette coach! This is the video I didn't know I needed, please do more content like this!
"Ugh...Napkin rings." 😂
Spot On William - thoroughly enjoyed this clip - looking forward to more etiquette advice from you.
I loved this! So glad this popped up in my recommendations. I would definitly watch more of these.
You are so ADORABLE!!! Keep it up, you are a joy to behold and a great teacher.
"They do know how to hold cutlery correctly in Scotland."
Thanks, William ✊😔 Americans 🙄
So there is one correct way to hold cutlery, then? Not different but equal traditions?
@@monmothma3358 There are four primary schools of table etiquette which you use based on what country you’re in, American, Continental, European, and British. Continental is your best style to use to be diplomatic, since it’s a combination of American and British styles. It’s main feature is always keeping the knife in the right hand and the fork in the left hand and not switching.
@@cecilyerker I'm from the US, and the more I watched stuff from across the Pond, the more I found myself unconsciously taking certain things on board, including how to cut and eat my food. I never really could quite understand the switching hands thing that most of my fellow Americans do. Feels like a waste of motion/energy to me. 🤷♀️
Mr. William, I am fascinated with all of your presentations! Thank you for such a great work on your tutorials.
"That man is holding his cutlery completely incorrectly. He is supposed to be from scottland but they do know how to hold their cutlery in Scotland." 🤣 yes!
The "this was clearly made by American's" joke went over my head!😅😂 Do English people not say "it's nice to meet you"?
Not sure too, but I hear "pleasure to meet you" alot of times,hehe
I think the more "correct" phrase would have been "How do you do"
It's more the fact that in Europe, people great each other with one/two kisses on the cheek, while americans just go around shaking everyone's hands, that's very businessman-like.
No, not the upper classes or aristocracy. They say, ‘how do you do’. The middles or working classes might say, ‘Nice to meet you’.
@@sergiobarroso5847 Its because we always have something to sell you
This was a really fun watch
I thought you were going to go through everything and I was sad when the video was over xD
Please, do more of these! I absolutely loved it :)
OMG a video I didn’t know I desperately need! 😭
This guy is pointing out all the reasons I didn’t like this movie as a kid but didn’t fully understand or couldn’t articulate why. I also didn’t like Anne Hathaway because she was so over-the-top and had no self awareness and was like “I’m so quirky and relatable!” Except I couldn’t relate to her at all because she acted like a toddler.
Her character was 15 and socially awkward.
Remember the book was written by an American, about an American 12 year old that discovers in middle school her dad was a prince in a European country so yes, decorum will have its unique differences. That includes Napkin Rings.
You don’t have to be European to know that you shouldn’t crawl under a table during dinner.
@@cecilyerker She was trying to clean up her mess; she did not know that would be handled for her. So Mia was showing good manners, just not established etiquette
@@cecilyerker Mia's character was brand new to etiquette and was extremely clumsy and uncouth.
Crawling under the table was used to highlight that.
My mom and I picked at some of the etiquette stuff in this movie. We noticed loved the sorbet part though because it was so sweet.
I like this kind of content, teaching us in a fun and relatable way! Cool!
Just found this channel and love it. Informative and such a wonderful sense of humour - brilliant. Oh, on a completely unrelated topic - love the yellow watchband with the Apple Watch - one of my favorite combinations as well. You are also rather handsome, so I’ll definitely be catching up on all the videos I’ve missed.
This was great! Loved this breakdown of such a sweet movie!
She needs more than two drinks? How thirsty are posh people lol
Formal dinners usually have multiple glasses with small amounts of different wine or liqueurs.
Absolutely brilliant and so entertaining, I love your delivery. Thank you William, more please. Younger generation take note...
I would very much enjoy if you made more of these kinds of videos!
This was so insightful! Please make a more videos like this
Good morning William,
I was about to go to sleep but it seems that will have to be postponed until I can finish this fantastic video! Please keep up the good work! Gen Z is desperate to level up!
Yours sincerely,
Nimi
William, you are my spirit animal.
I wonder if you have written a book on etiquette?
You absolutely should!
Yes, I’ve written two... 🙈
Suddenly I'm very glad I'm not part of the upper class.
Arnt we all?! Haha *cries in poor*
This isn’t an accurate representation of what it’s like to be upper class, it’s basically a cartoon
@@cecilyerker or caricature
2:52 technically it is a state dinner, considering that they have many official guests that flew in, that were not genovians.
Amazing and informative commentary! Thanks! 🌹👍
Thank you most kindly for your edifying deconstruction of this movie. Lovely, this. Be safe, stay healthy! *blessings*
Love your videos William ❤✨
This guy feels like an AI from the future.
Love you Mr Hanson! Thank you for all of your wonderful lessons!! :)
Etiquette was very much enforced in my family. That dining scene from TPD always irked my soul. Thank you for this!
Can you do "What a Girl Wants?" That was one of my guilty pleasures as a teenager, and it's kind of along similar lines.
Nice video, this gave me even more of an appreciation for Princess Diaries. I know that may not have been your point but I loved that Mia didn't become the Perfect Princess immediately. She had tremendous fumbles and she knew she still had a long way to go but it didn't stop her from accepting her fate as Amelia Mignonette Thermopolis Renaldi, Princess of Genovia.
William Hanson #1
Please more videos analyzing movies!! just love it!
@2:58 I’m pretty sure that’s Bonnie Aarons! The actor who played the Valek in “The Nun”
Paris Hilton did a videograph on enterin a low sports car on camera while wearin a very slight skirt or dress.
He talks like Pierre desperaux from psych. I love it!
Why are couples not seated together in formal settings ?
Two reasons, with Russian to provide the archaisms English has lost during its transition from Early Modern to Modern:
- Wherefore? Почему?
- Because they might produce a more scintillating conversation.
- Why? Зачем?
- To reduce conspiracy.
The glass breaking... that was a funny reaction 😂
Fun video, but as Genovia is a different country (ok it's made up) they may have different etiquette rules to the UK! Sorry had to mention that! 😊🤭
When they started giving the ettiquite for walking I couldn't help but laugh.
I use a wheelchair, is there a proper 'pushing form?' 😂
Probably. And however you are doing it now, you're doing it wrong.
Probably just use the same consideration of others in your wheelchair as when you would walk. Such as being careful and deliberate, using good posture, and not running and bumping into others. Not bouncing up and down and correcting her slump was the main things Mina had to learn in the movie.
Why is this my favourite way of dragging people like the TEA and SHADE of etiquette🔥
I love this movie! Part of the reason I love it is she's so awkward trying to learn how to be a princess but she still has fun trying to learn how to do it.
"Maybe it's a Genovian tradition".😂😂😂
My mother went to school in the 1950s and was always told ladies should cross their ankles but never their knees.
"Mix" is a verb. "Mixture" is a noun. Wm. do not imitate the ways of uneducated nor untrained folks, no matter how much money or social rank they may have. Remember, Wm., money and social rank count for zero, rightness counts for all. Give heed to parts of speech.
Every word began as one part of speech. In history, any deviation therefrom were a mistakin. For a mistakin to become commonplace does not make it to be any less a mistakin. The masses of folks have no authority to set standards. Only the best folks have the authority to set standards, and, then, only in accord with historical reality of origins of words.
And remember, in gaugin bestness, money and social rank count zero. Only historical and logical accuracy count.
Loved this!!
Hilarious! I love watching these. I love Princess Diaries so much!
I love the way he says Americans like it's shit on his shoe
Entering your channel and binge watching you! Please do more tutorials!
You have to do the meal in Indiana Jones and Temple of Doom.
I loved this. Part two please!!
Do something about The Crown, please!
Hello William, The bit about Hermes scarves was always curious.
My foster parents were Taiwanese and i was never allowed to sit w my legs crossed..only right over left at the ankles as only "loose" women crossed their legs..
But why are couples seated apart? Or is it opposite each other?
Lovely content....I would like to see/ review etiquette during public speaking
Covids making me realize just how in hygenic high etiquette is
When you understand the history behind it, it really makes good sense!
William, I enjoyed your commentary very much! I cringed the entire way through Princess Diaries in between the laughs.
Thank you, Cynthia. Do hope you are well.
I got everything right so far. So Swiss school seems to be as good as they say. Thanks for these interesting and funny videos!
1:54 I like to say yes and no. It is mostly about crinkles in the fabric you are wearing.
Absolutely lovely! Would be very pleasing if you consider to make this kind of videos in the future
Please do a deconstruction to large dinner scenes from the show Downton Abbey. Thanks
Ok, so Mia’s grandmother is a widow in first movie ( Queen Dowger) so she isn't suppose to wear a tiara?
You aren’t really supposed to wear a tiara unless it’s a white tie event-this one was a black tie event. Of course, in modern times we tend to think of Queens/Princesses as wearing tiaras all the time, but that’s not the case. Tiaras aren’t a Royal thing, it’s just a type of headdress many Royal women like to wear.
I enjoyed this very much.
On the objection to only 2 glasses, I believe this is because the Princess is a minor and not allowed to drink alcohol. I noticed the Queen of Genovia’s setting (and the other adult’s settings) have three glasses. In real life, how would royalty set a table for a person who will not be drinking alcohol? Not only are the issues with underage attendees, but I am certain there has been a history of inviting people whom the host knows does not drink alcohol and, if they are in recovery, should not be awkwardly tempted to drink by the placement of wine glasses at his or her setting.
I would like to say thank you for kind of explaining the ice cream/sherbet/sorbet scene xD 😂
That baffled me a lot
But she’s not learning English etiquette she’s learning Gionovian etiquette!
Lovely!
how are you liking the Magic Keyboard so far?
This reminds me that I wanted to rewatch the show. I'll go back to this video in a bit hahaha I don't wanna be spoiled 🏃
what’s the proper etiquette to rub one out under the table?
Could use the whole new world of these rules, actually
Thank you very much for this video
6:57 What you’re suggesting that you pee yourself
Love this video!!
The most important thing to remember with manners is just not to upset others 🤣
I doubt he'll see this, but just in case, I have two questions: 1) regarding the rule about married women wearing tiaras - would that include widows? and 2) what's the reasoning behind seating couples apart?
I know about the second one. It is because couples live together all day every day, and how much would they have to say to each other? Or if they are freshly married and very much in love, they would make a little cocoon and isolate themselves. In a social gathering, the goal is to mingle and make acquaintances, and hear new, different things and perspectives.
Thank you for making this video