2020 Lexus GS F: Here's Why F Is Better Than M (4K) - Take 2 Ep. 6
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- Опубликовано: 12 апр 2020
- This week we're taking a look at the not-so-new 2020 Lexus GS F. Although the GS F has been out for a while now, you don't see that many of them on the road. We think that's a shame, considering the GS F is a refreshingly old school approach to the luxury sport sedan market.
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Specs:
Engine: 5.0L DOHC 32-Valve V8
Drivetrain: RWD
Power: 467 hp @ 7,100 rpm
Torque: 389 lb-ft @ 4,800 rpm
Transmission: 8-Speed Automatic
Fuel Economy (City/Highway/Comb.): 16/24/19 MPG
Wheelbase: 112.2 in
Curb Weight: 4,034 lbs (53%/47%)
Base Price: $85,010
Price as Tested: $89,510 (incl. dest.)
Shot on Panasonic Lumix GH4, GoPro Hero 7 Black Edition, and iPhone XS. GH4 stabilized with DJI Ronin-M. Editing done on Final Cut Pro X.
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One important thing though, IT WON'T FAIL!!!!
I'd take a M5 if it was giving to me, but if I had to spend my hard earned money, I'd have the GSF in my garage.....😄
Good call
I tried M5(F10) twice and still think my stock GSF's handling is sharper... I also put Ohlins on it recently. Now my GSF becomes as fun as Farrari and as reliable/practical as Toyota!!!
And I'd take the M5 only if someone else paid the maintenance bills :)
Bought one of these about a year ago and it's the best decision I've ever made
Nas Glad you’re still enjoying it! What made you choose it over the Germans?
@@ClutchKickOfficial Needed a reliable daily driver that I could enjoy on weekends. Plus I wanted to buy outright, not lease or finance. This car felt so much more special than any of its competitors and it hasn't given me any headaches at all. I've heard some nightmare stories about German long-term reliability lol
Same! I Leased it for 2 years around 7 months ago! Getting an LC next because I'm so impressed with Lexus/
Yemi Great idea!
P_enta LC is absolutely fantastic
I love my 2016 GS F. It blows me away every time I get in and drive it. It's magnificent. Everyone that rides in it also feels the same.
They've really nailed creating a car that speaks to the heart, rather than the mind.
Do you still have it and would you recommend pulling the trigger on a 2016 with 77k miles ?
Proud 2016 gsf owner here. When you drive it feels like you are driving special also test drove an m550i and even my younger 21 year old brother said it felt bland.
Hds818 I’m glad others feel the same!
The steering wheel camera angle is next level.👏👏 I will agree that there is something appealing about this old school powertrain that makes this car special.
J High It’s amazing what some tape and a GoPro can do! The old-schoolness is very unique. Got to respect Lexus for that. I typically like an old school approach to cars and this is such a great blend of old and new.
This Lexus is also the most powerful Japanese sedan on sale. Lexus takes the title of that.
Toyota4Life I didn’t even think of that!
Clutch Kick yup. It’s a fact that’s overlooked.
GS F engine/transmission will probably be going past 300k miles without any work done and keep going.
ISFs already do there's one on Club Lexus with 333k miles.
Let's see of Mercedes n BMW can even come close to that
Most underrated performance Sedan !
Felix Yes it is!
This car is very underrated in my opinion, oh it's very old, it doesn't have the power to compete with its rivals, so and so but one question I have always asked is that when are you able to use that horsepower, on the road except you are on a track or highway 600 hp would feel like 200 on a windy road or in the city where the car would spend most of its life, but one thing that would never fade is the driving experience, and that is what the Japanese do well, They might not make the most powerful cars or they might not have the best tech but the driving passion is almost unmatched, cars like the BRZ/GT86 and the Miata have shown that you dint need 600 hp to have fun, you need communication between the driver the car and the road to have fun and enjoy, that is why a Civic Type R can beat almost any sports car on a track despite being fwd and having less power than them
Iboy Dafreshest My man. 💪🏼
I've seen a hundred reviews of this car and this one is my favorite, very honest and talks about the stuff that matters except you left out the most important reason to by the Lexus, reliably and resale value. They don't break.
Thank you for the feedback and glad you appreciated the honesty. I didn’t mention reliability because I thought that it was implied but it’s a great selling point as well. Cheers.
I just love the way he describes everything, the way he speaks passionately abt this machine💯!
Thank you! ❤️
Difference is you will get to enjoy the drive more than suffering the car in the shop
These are facts.
Who cares about apple music? I dont buy a car for apple..get outta here with that.
Victor Richardson Apple CarPlay, not Apple Music. Btw, it should come standard in all 2020 vehicles
You know what intrigues me. People talking about all the tech the car’s infotainment has but at the end of the day they are probably using google maps on their mounted phones.
Since when was the last time we use the car gps? Never! Lol. All the extra techs are for them to make more money from buyers. The only tech we care is premium audio system
Troy Truong have you use Apple CarPlay before? it’s pretty convenient
@日産スカイライン I drive a lexus, couldn't speak for other manufacturers
I Love it when you put it on Sport plus you can hear the Engine Roars and it Pulls you from your Seat when you kick the Acceleration
You guys knocked it out of the park once again! Wow! So fun to watch!
Mark Hinojosa Wow thanks Mark!
And it feels awesome behind the wheel, inside build qualify is magnificent
Impressive. Keep up the great work!
Daito Osho Thank you for the support!
amazing video, I got bought one of these months ago amazing machine and what a pleasure to drive
Glad you’re enjoying your GSF and glad you enjoyed the video!
Great review!
Laka Laka Thank you! And thank you for watching.
Also a fan of the wheel cam. Nice work!
james tillapaugh Highlight of the video. Thanks for watching!
very good review and unbiased.👍👏👏👏👏 subscribed.
MyGoogi Thank you for the sub! Some people interpret unbiased as “hating on”...
Excellent and insightful review! Numbers do not tell the whole story... which is why I’m currently searching for an Ultrasonic Blue GSF. Was lucky enough to go to a Lexus track event and drive GSF&RCF pretty hard. Very capable cars that are reliable. Highly recommend both for those who want an everyday performance car!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Simply the Best and so stunning to look at
Especially in this color!
Every time you drive around, you made all Audi and Mercedes look before you pass , it’s been proven ❤❤
I leased one of these new around 7 months ago. Amazing car!
Hope I can purchase once you turn in
Great video!
Thank you!
Great review! I tested a 2016 GSf last weekend and wow was I impressed with it for all the reasons you mentioned. It just feels so balanced and special. And a total sleeper! I am not the type of person that wants every Scatpack or M5 to be constantly challenging me on my commute. But it’s sure nice to be able to smoke someone and watch their face change because they absolutely had no expectations of that capability in that family sedan -ish package.
The understated-ness is definitely one of the top selling points! Thank you for watching.
Did you end up purchasing it ?
This particular color scheme, with all the extras (ML sound system, cold weather/heated steering wheel, passenger side memory) is especially appealing. Make all the wheels the same size (Lexus will do that for you) and I'd make it my daily driver in a heartbeat.
What's funny is you can buy the exact car in the video (the exact car, VIN confirmed) at CarMax. They've had it listed for almost a year now: www.carmax.com/car/19273399
Love my 2018 GSF I don't regret buying it at all
This will likely start appreciating in the next few years, especially since it's already discontinued.
Great review! Favourite car is an e92 M3 - however the more I review and look into Lexus as a brand - a GSF seems like the ultimate daily driver ....now just need the funds to buy 😂
I too am very fond of the e92 M3 because of that amazing V8 (despite its fragility like the plastic throttle body actuator gears).
You can do burnouts. Sport++ mode with traction disable puts it into expert mode then set the TVD to Track. Also to note the chief engineer of GSF worked on the legendary Supra markIV. The GSF is tuned to be abused on the track so yes it’s HP/torque do not compare to m5/AMG BUT it can be regularly taken to the track unlike a 550i.
I currently own a 98 gs400, lowered with nice lexani ice 20s. Still be seeing ppl look at me like is that a 2010 model. Nope 98 with 1uz fe vvti baby pushing about 320 hps rite now
I had a 98 gs400 and loved that car. It was a quick car for its time. That generation was the last of the real Lexus where they were always trying to stay ahead.
I ended up moving to Audi years later and now I have an RS3 which is amazing! Ultra quick with AWD and an amazing sound from the famous 5 cylinder turbo.
I can tell right now why it's better even before watching the video. It's reliable..
Not just because it's reliable, it's the fact they didn't get suckered into the turbocharged, higher fuel efficiency trend. Lexus focused on sensations rather than rational sense.
Great review, great car. Would love to see how you think the rcf is in comparison. I’d love a gsf but there really aren’t many used ones available. RCF is much easier to find.
Great comment and thank you for the positive feedback! I have driven the RC F and I was very pleasantly surprised with it. Everyone said it sucks in track, too heavy and understeers too much. But for a street car, I think it’s more than enough and it definitely has some of the same magic as the GS F even though the GS F is a little sharper and better tuned at the limit. Me personally, I kind of want the old IS F but that does not have as much hp as the newer cars despite having almost the exact same engine.
Clutch Kick Thanks! Agreed I’m tempted on ISF. Wish they made a current gen one. Realistically I’ll be shopping in about 1.5-2 years and by then I think I’ll just want the more modern car. I think RC F’s have a bit more depreciation ahead so this could work out great. Thanks again!
Loved the camera on the steering wheel shots.
Mark Robinson A crowd favorite!
I got Lexus GS200T low miles and I love it, GS little brother of this one, perfect design, few on the round makes it spectacular
Congrats! Hope it treats you well for many years to come!
I’m saving money now , for exactly the same car and I might just keep my gs200T for my daily , this car cost a lot less than bmw and Mercedes but then when it comes to maintenance expenses I will win and got extra cash to blow , ❤😂😂
You nailed it, lexus is not about numbers its about luxury quality and experience that no one can come close too!
This car shouldn’t be compared to other cars cause Lexus does things it’s own way and is not competing with any other car. Instant classic I’ve no doubt
Yes let's look at cars in a vacuum.
Bought my 2016 GSF a year ago after nightmares with BMW at 50% discount from MSRP. Plan on keeping it for good...especially now with it discontinued after this year. My mechanic has one too and said nothing goes wrong with them mechanically.
It will likely become a future classic!
Best decision you can make man. Don’t let it go. They’ll be really rare In the future
I love my 16 GSF and look forward to any excuse I get to take it out. I want to keep it for a very long time which is another reason I love Lexus. I’m a 10+ years type of car owner.
Nice video men 👍👍🤠
Thanks!
heart is absolutely right. i love mine more than i've loved any AMG or M car i've owned
Heart over mind.
Great little Review, loved it! I would love to get a GS F as my next daily. But i also love my trusty IS 250. But... i guess i would take the GS F anytime over the IS :)
Greetings from Austria
The AustrianDuke Thank you for watching all the way in Austria! Is250 is a great car. Hope you are able to get a GS F one day! Hope you subscribe.
I am also coming from my beloved Is250, now enjoying GSf. Everything is possible:)
Lexus F Performance Poland That’s awesome! Congratulations!
@@ClutchKickOfficial You´re welcome :)
Already Subscribed after your great Mk3 Supra Video a while ago
@@lexusfperformancepoland4098 Wow, great to hear! Great way to describe Life - Everything is possible! I wish you all the best with your GS-F and always a lot of fun :)
Greetings from Austria
I plan on buying one next year. Hope prices don't spike due to discontine
Hesko 1 I hope so too because I've really enjoyed seeing how cheap the 2016's have become. Incredible value when they're a couple years used but I fear you're right... the discontinuation may drive up prices.
I subscribe after a year , watching it again ❤❤
Given the price difference, it is a true m550 competitor since it I undercuts the M5 by more than $30K or so. Also, those cars are 400 - 500 lbs heavier than the GSF. That is why Lexus compares it to the m550i. It does extremely well against the m550i. It is superior in almost every way to the m550i except the 0-60 mph (but, GSF accelerates faster at higher speeds).
2ZZGE100 Correct but the M550i starts about 14k less than the GS F.
@@ClutchKickOfficial The m550i is by far faster than the GSF... Has way more torque too and is far more luxurious!!!
Plus, the 2020 M550i has the upgraded 523hp and 553lb-ft with a great AWD system... don't forget the tuning capabilities of that specific motor as well👍. BMW you lease GSF You buy😎
Also, I think I love the GSF so much because - let’s be honest - the 550i range of performance is all (more) than I could need on a daily. But I don’t love that those are not the “top tier” cars. They therefore don’t get very differentiated styling, or sport seats. Those two things would make me want the M5, taking bmw as an example. Here, you get the best of those things with a level of performance that you can dip into a bit more on the road. Oh, and it’ll just run.
To be honest, a lot of BMW’s have started feeling like Mercedes these past few years and they’ve only just now started to get back to where they used to be. It’s been kind of sad seeing BMW go through an identity crisis. Meanwhile, Lexus has been developing a great, unique style of their own.
I love my supercharged gs-f!
They sell supercharger kits for these?!
@@ClutchKickOfficial Yes Sir. You can buy the entire kit at RR RACING. It has made my car into a new animal haha. I’m planning on going full e85 kit on it. They put down between 720 to 750 to the wheels. You can even search on RUclips GS-F supercharger and you’ll see the videos.
I will buy one soon!!!
Good thing too because it looks like this will be the final model year.
Glad there still making them, it's the last I will buy
Just bought my 2017 GSF with 28,000 on it. Love driving this car!
Congrats! I hope you keep it forever.
What's the age group buying these cars? I'm 57 and stepped down from a ls460 awd to a gs 350 awd because I wanted something a little sportier. I like the gs but would love the power of the gsf.
I'm not sure what the age group is because it's such a small group of people already that truly appreciate these cars over the faster competition.
Your age! I’m 52, prior owner probably 62. Most expensive car I ever bought, yet having driven LS sedans over 10 yrs plus for each. and paying maintenance on out of warranty 911, figured this way best choice, especially when I saw higher resale prices for IS F 2011+ and Chevy SS than I could accept. Experience tells me I can probably drive this 5 yr old car with 30k miles till retirement….
All Lexus had to do was update the tech. This car was almost a grand slam. Still an all time great.
Fr, this car with modern technology it would’ve been my dream car over the Porsche and other German cars
Few cars can carry the Yellow hue, that car does.
jim carson It actually has a pearl effect in real life.
100% Reliable! I take the GSF anytime.
proud IS F owner. Chose it over an E90 M3 and I am VERY pleased with my choice.
Great choice!
In the live stream mat Watson did with yianni he said he did a test where they removed all liquids from the cars. The Japanese car was the only that that wouldn't die
I have a 19, yes I know it’s not the fastest. I used to own a Isf back when they came out so I knew what I was getting at. Yes m3/m5 , Amg are faster but this is so much fun to drive. Sounds amazing and I can expect years of fun. Look up ISF you will see then in 200k mile driven and still drive like new. Can’t say the same for any German car and I m not even talking about Performance models.
Glad you are an F fan!
2023 this beast will be mine
Will have to be used though since this is the final model year for the GS.
@@ClutchKickOfficial yep, the depreciation will be even slower now.
This wins all the time!
It truly wins your heart.
Engine swapping the camry trd with this
Bet.
does a supercharger not give instantaneous power??
It should right?
Check out Bullets Garage on you tube for his Lexus GSF build!
I always just use the LEXUS VOICE control for Temperature now, the button is on your steering wheel. However yes...No Android and Auto carplay is just LAME for price point...Of course theres After market parts for that but well.
Still worth the struggle for that glorious engine note.
@@ClutchKickOfficial yea, my dream car would be a 2020 Lexus GS F CANADIAN version
You are way more informed than that doug guy! hahah
I think we specialize in different things! He's good at covering everything feature and physical detail. I like to focus on driving experience, daily livability, and philosophy.
I have a 2020 RCF and it has Apple CarPlay. Odd...
you can do burnouts ! gotta do a dumb pedal dance to stop all electronic intervention tho 😅
It compared the car appropriately for the price point.
F is better than M, fact.
These are #facts
Finally, someone else has said the truth, that's why i loath german cars, I drove a bmw 340im, in sport mode, and steering was so heavy, but it's so numb, I can;t feel a thing through it.
jesse chen I have hope BMW will find their way again.
I like the V8 more than Tech. a car is meant to be driven.
If there was a nuclear fallout out I’m convinced a Lexus IS one of the only things that would still run as per usual, nothing is engineered like them.
Ey SAC gang
Eyyyyy.
The mother of Sleepers...
Yes
I'm in a gs f sport once this is paid off gsf here I come .
This car is faster than the old gen paanmera gts v8... tell me how thats slow
? Panamera GTS had higher top speed and more than half a second quicker to 60...? This is a weird comparison.
This car is more reliable than the M is, but not better in any other way.
i just i have to say that ( Turbo is a bad idea that cost a lot of money when its time for maintenance which means a new one ) so I'm not a fan of turbo and the requirements that will keep or give turbo longer life to last longer are annoying so. please. people. do yourself a favor. and research Turbo reliability and maintenance cost before buying a turbo vehicle.
Damn if you don't want it, give it here.
Marvin Did you watch until the end or...?
M5 or gsf
If you consider the lifespans, this car should be compared with a new E300... My GSF was a 6 month old used car in 2017 . So, it should be compared with a new C300...
What the heck are you on about?
@@ClutchKickOfficial Sorry. I meant my GSF could be as cheap as a new C300 as my GSF could last twice longer than a new C300 if I kept my GSF for at least 15 years...
I’m loving the 467 hp.
Necessary Evil It's enough to have fun and is actually useable.
this car is meant to be tuned
You dropped your camera bro 💀
Guillermo Hernandez Brakes, break, get it?
Gs f nice car but rc f is quicker in the 1/4 love the f cars
Great car but it cannot beat the M5 in term of performance and techs. That’s why you don’t see too many on the road. This is more of a m550i competitor.
😂😂
I’m not feeling the taxi yellow color 🚕
Fun fact: other colors are available.
Clutch Kick you don’t say I would of never figured 🤦🏻♂️
I take it in blue
I’d take that yellow over my silver
Personally hate the new style grill to bumper look.
It is definitely polarizing.
You guys all another person’s review then use the same useless complaints about the Lexus GSF/GS350 f sport and the number # 1 is always the infotainment system which I find very easy to use. I went after market and added Apple Car play now I have the perfect car.
? what after market part?
Japanese American are both of them
Lexus, which abolished this car, can never catch up with big names such as Mercedes and BMW.
Abolished? What?
@@ClutchKickOfficialThe 2020GS has been discontinued and there are no more high performance cars to compete in this class.
I abuse the crap out my lexus and it doesnt break
That's that legendary Toyota build quality.
Lexus are more reliable than bmw's.... i wud chooze the lexus but i wud add a supercharger tho!!
Interesting choice
Quality wise it is performance wise it's not
TheCarSection TheCarSection Driving is so much more than performance figures.
Move your mic in the future. Bad spot for this vid
Kayan Mak Not a location issue, jacket material issue. My camera man was cold so I gave him my regular jacket which doesn’t have the excess noise issue. You can check our other videos to see what I mean. Thank you for the feedback 🙏🏼
RIP GS 😭
Supercharged GS F to around 600hp, imagine that. Lexus missed a trick. M5 and E63 is a different ball game, GS F does not come close.
Sounds great, steers great (other daily cars are 911 manual and Boxster), and no rattles on 5 yr old car. Launch into hyperspace ability in a car often overpowers driver appreciation of a car’s merits (hence, for 911, I prefer lower models over the Turbo).
You can tell all the excuses to yourself but in reality less tech and less power does not make it better.
Think about it though? How many people actually track their car? Or, who races for money? All of those tech, power and turbo shit, really doesn't mean anything, if it's your daily (which most people buy for status and showing off). Lol There's a thing called speed limit on the streets and fwy. People buy Lexus because it's still fun to drive with lower maintenance costs and reliability.
Simmy Yin
Think about it, all rich people have this thing called EGO. That’s what German luxury is all about.
@@TheGomezIndustries Lol I know, that's what I said and meant by showing off and they purchase those vehicles for status. About 95% don't even know how to drive them properly. I live in Orange County, CA. I see it first hand!! 🤣😂
Simmy Yin
The thing is, Mercedes and BMW still surpasses Lexus in sales. Lexus reliability is great but their weak engines and outdated tech really puts off most people. I have more fun in my 500 horsepower AMG than any Lexus. I mean even Lincoln already has a mid-SUV pushing out 494 horsepower. It might not have good power to weight ratio but those number really attracts attention. If only Lexus combines reliability and power, they’ll be unbeatable.
Lexus already has a bad rep of being a grandpa mobile and I thought they’re going to change their principles when they announced the LFA, but sadly, they still can’t keep up with the Germans.
@@TheGomezIndustries Just to be clear bro? I'm not arguing and/or denying that, Germans (Audi, BMW and Benz lineup) is better in power/torque fun wise to drive. I miss my 08' E55 sittin on 19" to this day! Lmao (Some dude turned into me, while being high on a yield) and totaled that car. But, when I had it for a year? That SOB was a nightmare on electronic issues and engine lights and that damn fucking water pump. I bought it used, at 40k miles. From that? I got a 2011 E92 335i on 19" again, with 35k miles. Fuck! That bitch was fun. Had her for about 4yrs. Until some dude ran a red light and totaled my car again. Lol Luckily I wasn't at fault both times. But Damn that 335i was a bitch on maintenance too. I kept up with all my fluids. Tire check up because of the 19". Synthetic oil. 91 gasoline. Maintenance lights always on, eventhough I got it checked with Crevier BMW in Santa Ana. With the Germans. It's always; oil gasket/housing, water pump, electronic issues and transmission.
I’ll give you 3 reasons M will always be better than F.
1. Heritage/ linage
2. V10
3. Most icons (E30/E46,etc.)
F doesn’t have a SINGLE thing listed above.
I love Bmw Of course it does LFA (V10) there you go I gave you one. Plus Lexus will always beat BMW.