This is by far the best Japanese luxury and performance sedan on the market. By far... no other sedan from any other Japanese marker can touch this. Nothing from infinti damn sure nothing from acura. This is also the most powerful japense sedan on sale in America.
If you ever wonder why you never got a chance to drive one, heck even seen one ever on the streets, well, is production numbers is your answer. 3200 Lexus GS F left its assembly line total for global markets during its 2016-2020 production time out of which 2484 were made for US. This car is rare as rare gets.
700 rhd ones .. which i own one of .. about 200 lhd gs-f have been totalled and think was about 75 of the rhd models .. the gs 460 [ again own one as a daily driver] production numbers are less than the gs-f believe it or not .. '08 .. 1616 units gs460 .. 09 - 13 .. only between 40-70 units a yr .. so in total not quite 2000 .. so glad got the gs-f .. took a while find a nz new one [im in new zealand ] and yes will be very collectable .. suppose they are already ..
I have a 98 Lexus GS 400 V8 with 218000 miles silver with chrome rims, grey leather interior no rips, leaks or rust. I drove it from Tampa to Atlanta and back two times last year. It still ride like a new car.
A car that has better time 0-60 alone does not mean the car is the best. A good sports sedans need to have performance, sporty design, luxury, comfortability, fun n excitment, refinement, affordability, low maintenance costs, and most importantly RELIABILITY. Im sure lexus checks all of rhe above. Euro cars have the worse reliability and high maintenance costs. That alone is a deal breaker for me and many smart folks.
So what if Bmw and mb sell more than lexus? So u know. Most people buy bmw n mb for the prestige image and brand. Euro cars are just overpriced pos. Only thing they have going is better performance. Nothing else. Most of them have buyers remorse but not lexus owners. I had 2 bmws before. These are facts. Not an opinion. If u do your research, ull know. Obviously u didnt.
@@boolji lol. Sorry man. Got carried away. Just sharing informations. Advice. Do research before u invest in an expensive car that you dont want to have remorse.
About a week ago I lined up with a M4, and we were a dead match until around 70mph… dude slowly walked away, but I’d take my GSF every day of the week. Afterwards we chatted at the next stoplight, and I asked him if he knew what I was driving. He said “hell yes dude I almost bought one!”
It has VGRS steering so the steering gets heavier at high rpm, high speeds and also in sport+ mode. If you are puttering at slow speeds in the city especially in non-sport+ mode, it will feel light. It gets dramatically heavier in sport+ and once the car goes into 6000+ rpm range. At least, it does in my RCF so I assume the GSF has the same steering system.
I really dislike when people compare these to track focused performance based M cars.These are powerful luxury cars with some sport. Their not as hyper focused like M and AMG.Its Lexus the people who made the LFA.If they wanted to truly challenge M and AMG they would. These are powerful luxury cars that provide good acceleration with luxury and comfort and class a little above your average v6 twin turbo v6 family car like the stinger gt and the BMW 4 series.Now Lexus should be giving these cars 500 hp and less weight but they dont they focus on powerful reliable get back to work and back luxury cars unlike AMG and M and audi RS that are all about perfomance figures.No..this wont beat an M3 or Rs3 or c63 .damn that's alot of 3s lol but it will as rape your neighbors v6 mustang and your other neighbors 335i.nice video by the way
The rr racing rcf smokes porsche around track let alone m3’s rs’3 come on... is all modifications!!! Any car can be track focus just mod it ... what’s the different between a Toyota nascar and a bmw nascar??
@@a1234ddf what huh? I've yet to see any rcf touch really any m3s or RS3s on tracks let alone drag. That even the RS3 platform itself would wipe the floor with the rcf for how fast they are with some mods done to them.
@@carboydorifutoparty3976 RS3 is very quick but not really in the same category as this Lexus. Its a larger more comfortable car, and the interior is more luxurious. I have compared them and its more compatible to a Audi S6.... Its more money than a RS3, and you can tell why when you compare interiors.. bit more plastic in the RS3 although it is very nice for its category..
@@a1234ddf who wants to spend 100k on a car that you have to mod to compete with others? Its not all about doing mods... I want to buy a car and be done with it, not bring it to the shop and get new suspension and engine mods and void the warranty... People that buy these dont care about that, they just want a nice luxury car that is reliable and also fast enough.. thats what this is. Out of the box its a very nice car, and goes fast enough for most people.
I still wonder when car maker will understand we don;'t need anything but MIRRORING function for phone lol Just like TV..Display whatever shows on our phone!
Everytime I find one for sale it sells instantly! Clearly people love these and so do I! Yes Lexus has to update some things (chrome window trims need to be black, infotainment needs to be touchscreen with CarPlay) but it has all the other things that the competition lacks(awesome NA V8, amazing sound, aggressive styling, and reliability!) I drove some and it’s a phenomenal driving experience!
It literally comes down to preferences. Is maintenance and $$$ not a problem? Go with BMW! It's more fun to drive of course & a little more appealing to the eye. But, if you want piece of mind, reliability, some less fun on the pedal and luxury? Go Lexus!
Sad to see this model go away. I currently own a GS350 85k on the odometer. No issues, maintenance is all I have had to worry about. Highly recommended!
Beautiful. The cheapest low mileage one I can find is $60k plus tax fee, 2019 20k miles. Unfortunately my wife didn’t want to take my 2017 ES350, otherwise I would buy that GSF. Wrote a $51K check in April on a 2024 NX350H instead.
Yemi I came from a BMW 550 to a GSF. Everyone likes to talk numbers but when you’re in the BMW shop every other weekend sitting in the lobby and constantly stressing over every noise when you’re driving it - they aren’t “better”. I had to take my 550 in to the dealer 6 times for tie rods and steering rack issues in 6 months.
I've been fortunate enough to own an M4, an RCF, an M3 Comp. Pack, and a GSF. The GSF sounded the best, was the roomiest and most practical of the bunch, and all things considered (in my opinion) the best of the bunch. Note - the transmission of the GSF is nowhere near as quick as the DCT on the M3/4, but certainly quick enough for everyday use) 🙂👍🙏
Also I really like the infotainment screen being shielded I really dislike the stand out pop up screen . I like my screens to be hidden from the sun sometimes I find it unbearable to look at.
It is not an M5 competitor and should not be considering the price difference, but it is about 400 lbs lighter than M5. It is more of an M-Sport 550 competitor price wise and it does extremely well against the m550 in both handling and acceleration. RCF, which is lighter, smaller, faster and stiffer competes against the M4 as it should be. The RCF track edition was created for track rats that want all of the standard Lexus goodness.
Came close to getting one of these but it felt slow off the line and the interior/tech was dated. Pulled the trigger on an F90 M5. And no, I'm not worried about reliability. I put less than 5k miles yearly. Plus, I got the 7 year warranty and maintenance on my car. 😎
@@BenHardyCars Thanks. I'm getting a ZL1 1le for my bday this fall too. Oddly, it will be my work vehicle. I've watched all of your recent Camaro videos. 👌✅👍
Well yeah that’s why you are not worried about the reliability because you are not driving it enough like you should. If you did, it would probably spent most of it time at the dealer for repairs.
Ok GS350 is not gonna vanquish a M or AMG.... My little F Sport may shake a Taurus SHO or something like that but that’s about it. I’m on my fourth one and am completely sold on this platform.
No matter how much you sing the GS's praises in this review, Lexus is still discontinuing it. The good thing is, it will be around on the streets for awhile because of it's reliability and build quality.
Maybe if the car was priced around mid 60’s its a good option but not at 90K MSRP brand new the GS is sadly losing out against the G80/Stinger. It’s a good car to get preowned
Looks and stances amazing Sounds better than any current M car Can't even compared the reliability lol But it's slower than M5 and M3s and it's not in the same tech levels of BMWs
I have both lexus and bmw and when I go to the bmw dealership for service, I am floored by how alluring bmw cars are. Mybank account likes Lexus . But my heart is with bmw. The G S f could have used a better looking body
@Rob K. The interior of the Lexus might be nicer but please don't compare a BMW or Mercedes to a Toyota, the only reason Lexus still exist in 2020 is for its reliability, but putting an M5 with a Lexus excluding the LFA is an insult and ignorant
I used to own BMW's and be a huge BMW fan, after all the issues and lack of support from BMW I will never buy another one. We now drive lexus and I will never look back, sure the germans will beat it in pure performance but that's it. I find lexus much more comfortable, feels better quality everywhere, and actually more fun to drive on actual roads(maybe not on a race track). Honesty I roll my eyes everytime I hear a BMW fanboy talk about lexus because I was one once.
Rob K. What??the new m5 interior is nice. And the tech is light years beyond Lexus. I can’t believe the infotainment on the gsf, straight from the previous decade. That being said Gsf is a decent car with sweet na v8, and reliability . Very nice interior also except for the steering wheel-come on Lexus, your gsf and rcf cannot have The same damn steering wheel as an is250. That’s just wrong. It’s also much slower than even an m550i (523hp, 3.8 0-60) Ps I had, have, lexuses and bmws and are fans of both brands.
Rob K. Huh? Why bring lc500 Into this? I love that car . That one is a lot nicer than the Gsf . I’d take the lc500 over the m850i for sure. This is strictly about Gsf and it’s outdated tech and not that fast. Stay on point if you want to debate geesh. Owned LS400, is350, isf, rx 450h; bmw335i,f80 M3, f80M 3 with zcp, m550i. Which part of I’m a fan of both brands don’t u get? Just keeping it real. Lexus is very reliable and interior is decent (unless you go up to lc500 then interior is GREAT), and tech is old. Engines old- that’s why they are reliable. Both great brands for complete different reasons. If I had to drive across the country I’m taking the Lexus. No questions. If I’m going for a fun drive (including mundane errands in town) I’m taking bmw and I do every time.
Rob K. Bro what are you on? Look around the seat controls, dash and the door panels, definitely not even 5 series level... better than 3 but not 5 at all. Don’t compare Lexus to a BMW!
i own gen3 lexu gs350 and gs350 F... love the 2020 GS-F interior black and white but i prefer break calib orange it's more stand out.. lastly i had watch many other channels comparing GS-F vs M-power... lexus is no near nor close to M3.. comparing to M5 in an insult to bmw.. i am a lexus fan but i also know my stuff that lexus can't compete with M-power..
It looks like a bigger is. Thats the problem. The GS deserves its own look and characteristics like the 2nd and 3rd gen. There is a huge Community 2nd gen and 3rd gen owners till this day. Why? Cause it was its own car. Nothing looked like it. If they did that it would of never been discontinued. When people buy a car like this? They want it to be one of a kind. Specially when the GS always did. I own an 08 with only 54k miles on it. People till this day think its a brand new lexus. Sad that they went away from the GS being its own.
I still like this car, a lot. The quality, reliability, engine, are all great, but the car is simply outgunned when comparing it to the M5 or E63. It has one of the worst infotainment systems going too. Still though, there is something about that can't be denied.
Afro Centauri that $10000 can be spent on just a few visits to a repair shop on a bmw so down the road owning bmw is not cheaper than owning a Lexus and BMW depreciates like a hooker
I love my 2016 gsf I have ppe headers and ppe dual mode exhaust and apexi intake silicone intake tube. Car handles like a dream but it definitely needs more power. Other than lack of power i love the car plenty of room and comfortable. Rr racing supercharger coming soon 😎
Yes it's comparable. It's slower. It lasts 30 years longer. And it's better in quality. 👌🏽 Any time lexus over any modern German pile of junk that falls apart after 4 or 5 years
honestly people always say BMW is unreliable but they dont know they are talking about. A true BMW M car such as M3 or M4 is more reliable than any performance Lexus car because M cars arent factory line assembled. Just like AMG cars, the engines are hand built and 90% of the parts on a true M or AMG car are different than for example a M340i or AMG43. There is a reason why an M3 is still double the cost of an M340i
Just watch the video nice car but I know Lexus can do better they wait to long to do a update are refresh to stay competitive I believe if they gave this car attention it wouldn’t be discontinued
Beautiful car 😍 . Unfortunately Lexus in it's infinite wisdom,👎and because customers are not lining up to buy this car, has decided that this will be the last year they will produce the GS-F or the GS. Seems all people are interested in are SUVs. The ones smart enough or wealthy enough to buy these wonderful cars will be very happy, 🙂happier if they maintain and keep these examples as they will only increase in value. Provided they don't trash them
Lexus will probably put down the LS500 like an old dog too in a couple of years. I don't see that many of them here in Los Angeles. Or the ES model. Only SUVs. If you have the means, hurry up and buy one now, before it's too late.
Who cares if it's not as fast or sporty as a German. 90% of the buyers would not go near a track nor afford the upkeep to take it to the track. Not like you can push cars on regular public roads.
both have different ways of attracting people ....lexus with its reliability and less exhausting but limited performance .....whereas bmw is a lot more zippy ...it pushes its engines to the extremes .....the logic is simple for bmw ....why would you not keep up with the newer tech features and the new looks....for lexus a new model is an option for you if you have the money otherwise the old one will keep going ....both are doing good in terms of business........a lexus GSF is probably the beast in lexus's standards ...not by bmw
I know right it’s like they are ripping people off big time . I mean look at the interior they give you some super outdated shit. You look back at the older models and it still looks the same they just upgrade the looks on the exterior and slap on a ridiculous price tag and fuck you over. Atleast with the Mercedes Benz they switch up there interiors completely every other 2 years or so. But look at Lexus like you said they got stuck in 2012. Better off buying a Camry TRD for what Lexus cost !!!
On the top end it would deff give a m550i a hard time after 100mph..quarter mile the 550 would deff probly win but on the highway these 5.0 v8 really move
@@mji9208 I mean I just checked the stats and those m550i have 523hp so yes it deff would beat the lexus plus with the torque of the twin turbos. But the Lexus would deff beat a 340i on the top end .as for the new m550i eh idk probly not maybe your right .I'm thinking of the older m550i I guess
A faster time 0-60 or 1/4 does not make a car a good car! Most of u are not fast n furious street racers. Has to do with refinement, quality, comfortability, performance, style n design, excitment, fun, low maintenance costs, and most importantly RELIABILITY. Lexus checks all of these. Not so much for euro cars.
@@eptdy Nah. I own a BMW motorcycle and I see their foibles first hand. They do stupid things like have solutions to things that are unnecessary, like a fuel strip instead of a float in the gas tank and now they have. 12 year warranty extension on them because they are crap or final drives that are poorly designed with sealed crown bearing or something common across cars and bikes: bad plastic. It shows up in throttle body pulleys that crack and break, usually when you''re on the road and then dead in the water. I've heard that the same kind of plastic issues happen with water coolant lines and intake manifolds on their cars. Then there are the water pump issues on their K bikes and water cooled boxers. The first 2-3 years were a nightmare. Every member of a local BMW club that bought a K1600 replaced at least one water pump and one guy replaced it 4 times. He even carries a spare on trips. Water pumps have been figured out for a long time. So has final drives, plastic and sensors for gas tank levels. They know how to design a balanced package that performs well, they just don't know how or want to produce a reliable product. My guess it's a dollar chasing a dime and they squeeze their vendors that do quality fade to ensure profit. Quality control and assurance should catch that, but it doesn't. The Japanese are just better at reliability in general.
@@nokoolaid bad plastic and bad rubber are bmws Forte. Ive owned 8 and on the older ones I had plastic water pump impeller issues on some. Rubber and plastic from german cars wears down much faster than that of a japanese car. But german engineering is usually better. Japanese more reliable
Sporty and RELIABLE. Worth spending your money.
This is by far the best Japanese luxury and performance sedan on the market. By far... no other sedan from any other Japanese marker can touch this. Nothing from infinti damn sure nothing from acura. This is also the most powerful japense sedan on sale in America.
If you ever wonder why you never got a chance to drive one, heck even seen one ever on the streets, well, is production numbers is your answer. 3200 Lexus GS F left its assembly line total for global markets during its 2016-2020 production time out of which 2484 were made for US. This car is rare as rare gets.
700 rhd ones .. which i own one of .. about 200 lhd gs-f have been totalled and think was about 75 of the rhd models .. the gs 460 [ again own one as a daily driver] production numbers are less than the gs-f believe it or not .. '08 .. 1616 units gs460 .. 09 - 13 .. only between 40-70 units a yr .. so in total not quite 2000 .. so glad got the gs-f .. took a while find a nz new one [im in new zealand ] and yes will be very collectable .. suppose they are already ..
I have a 98 Lexus GS 400 V8 with 218000 miles silver with chrome rims, grey leather interior no rips, leaks or rust. I drove it from Tampa to Atlanta and back two times last year. It still ride like a new car.
Only daily sedan i would buy is gs350. Gsf would be cool too! Reliable, refined, fun, comfortable, luxurious for daily use! Cant beat the gs.
@@boolji u watch too much tubs videos. U have no idea about cars do u?
A car that has better time 0-60 alone does not mean the car is the best. A good sports sedans need to have performance, sporty design, luxury, comfortability, fun n excitment, refinement, affordability, low maintenance costs, and most importantly RELIABILITY. Im sure lexus checks all of rhe above. Euro cars have the worse reliability and high maintenance costs. That alone is a deal breaker for me and many smart folks.
So what if Bmw and mb sell more than lexus? So u know. Most people buy bmw n mb for the prestige image and brand. Euro cars are just overpriced pos. Only thing they have going is better performance. Nothing else. Most of them have buyers remorse but not lexus owners. I had 2 bmws before. These are facts. Not an opinion. If u do your research, ull know. Obviously u didnt.
@@boolji lol. Sorry man. Got carried away. Just sharing informations. Advice. Do research before u invest in an expensive car that you dont want to have remorse.
@@boolji is the type to wear a Tap-Out shirt and thinks his 700 hp mustang is the best car in the world because all he knows his hp.
About a week ago I lined up with a M4, and we were a dead match until around 70mph… dude slowly walked away, but I’d take my GSF every day of the week. Afterwards we chatted at the next stoplight, and I asked him if he knew what I was driving. He said “hell yes dude I almost bought one!”
For reliability I would get it over the bmw
Exactly!
Lexus is making a huge mistake by stopping this GS 💔
No one's buying them , that's just how the market is
GS is horrible man. Ever since I was in high school in the '90s.
@@UT3CTF This grandpa loves his 2020 GS F!
It’s not selling! More money for RX and NX
@@ramk2443 i think it all depends on the American market, if it doesn't sell there theyll just pull it elsewhere
Nothing says welcome better than that aggressive roar of the V8.
Am definitely getting this car!
Cool review Ben!
It has VGRS steering so the steering gets heavier at high rpm, high speeds and also in sport+ mode. If you are puttering at slow speeds in the city especially in non-sport+ mode, it will feel light. It gets dramatically heavier in sport+ and once the car goes into 6000+ rpm range. At least, it does in my RCF so I assume the GSF has the same steering system.
I have a 2019 GS F love it!!!
Does it have apple CarPlay and android auto???
I really dislike when people compare these to track focused performance based M cars.These are powerful luxury cars with some sport. Their not as hyper focused like M and AMG.Its Lexus the people who made the LFA.If they wanted to truly challenge M and AMG they would. These are powerful luxury cars that provide good acceleration with luxury and comfort and class a little above your average v6 twin turbo v6 family car like the stinger gt and the BMW 4 series.Now Lexus should be giving these cars 500 hp and less weight but they dont they focus on powerful reliable get back to work and back luxury cars unlike AMG and M and audi RS that are all about perfomance figures.No..this wont beat an M3 or Rs3 or c63 .damn that's alot of 3s lol but it will as rape your neighbors v6 mustang and your other neighbors 335i.nice video by the way
I agree 100%. Well said!
The rr racing rcf smokes porsche around track let alone m3’s rs’3 come on... is all modifications!!! Any car can be track focus just mod it ... what’s the different between a Toyota nascar and a bmw nascar??
@@a1234ddf what huh? I've yet to see any rcf touch really any m3s or RS3s on tracks let alone drag. That even the RS3 platform itself would wipe the floor with the rcf for how fast they are with some mods done to them.
@@carboydorifutoparty3976 RS3 is very quick but not really in the same category as this Lexus. Its a larger more comfortable car, and the interior is more luxurious. I have compared them and its more compatible to a Audi S6.... Its more money than a RS3, and you can tell why when you compare interiors.. bit more plastic in the RS3 although it is very nice for its category..
@@a1234ddf who wants to spend 100k on a car that you have to mod to compete with others? Its not all about doing mods... I want to buy a car and be done with it, not bring it to the shop and get new suspension and engine mods and void the warranty... People that buy these dont care about that, they just want a nice luxury car that is reliable and also fast enough.. thats what this is. Out of the box its a very nice car, and goes fast enough for most people.
Love my GSF, but it lacks a lot of tech.
How is it in bad weather snow and rain
I still wonder when car maker will understand we don;'t need anything but MIRRORING function for phone lol Just like TV..Display whatever shows on our phone!
@@masmill1497 not too bad with snow tires. You need to turn off traction though.
tech is not a priority when it comes to performance
@@shiftautomotive854 true, but basic features like massage seats, active cruise control, and Apple Carplay are nowhere to be found.
Everytime I find one for sale it sells instantly! Clearly people love these and so do I! Yes Lexus has to update some things (chrome window trims need to be black, infotainment needs to be touchscreen with CarPlay) but it has all the other things that the competition lacks(awesome NA V8, amazing sound, aggressive styling, and reliability!) I drove some and it’s a phenomenal driving experience!
It literally comes down to preferences. Is maintenance and $$$ not a problem? Go with BMW! It's more fun to drive of course & a little more appealing to the eye. But, if you want piece of mind, reliability, some less fun on the pedal and luxury? Go Lexus!
best looking car seat i've ever seen
Man...I want a GS F with all WOOD Interior...Steering wheel and all panels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I Love the Growl on that Engine when you put it on Sport Plus Mode
its like a Beast Waking up
I own a 2017 GS F V8 and love love it.
Sad to see this model go away. I currently own a GS350 85k on the odometer. No issues, maintenance is all I have had to worry about. Highly recommended!
thats a beautiful car and the design of the spindle grill with the mesh insert Lexus finally got it right
Beautiful. The cheapest low mileage one I can find is $60k plus tax fee, 2019 20k miles. Unfortunately my wife didn’t want to take my 2017 ES350, otherwise I would buy that GSF. Wrote a $51K check in April on a 2024 NX350H instead.
I love my GSF! It gets lots of looks with its aggressive style. Beemers look so stiff and boring.
Yemi until they are in shop.
Yemi I came from a BMW 550 to a GSF. Everyone likes to talk numbers but when you’re in the BMW shop every other weekend sitting in the lobby and constantly stressing over every noise when you’re driving it - they aren’t “better”. I had to take my 550 in to the dealer 6 times for tie rods and steering rack issues in 6 months.
I've been fortunate enough to own an M4, an RCF, an M3 Comp. Pack, and a GSF. The GSF sounded the best, was the roomiest and most practical of the bunch, and all things considered (in my opinion) the best of the bunch. Note - the transmission of the GSF is nowhere near as quick as the DCT on the M3/4, but certainly quick enough for everyday use) 🙂👍🙏
Keyword. Daily use and practicality.
LEXUS👍👍👍
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Made in JAPAN world Best.
Dream daily. I don’t like black cars generally, and I’d probably go for the blue or red on the gsf myself, but this spec is stunning.
caviar is by-far one of the best looking color for the gsf platform.
Also I really like the infotainment screen being shielded I really dislike the stand out pop up screen . I like my screens to be hidden from the sun sometimes I find it unbearable to look at.
No BMW can not compete with that cool Lexus
This car is not fastest but it sure is fun to drive and feels great sitting in it. In addition it is reliable
It is not an M5 competitor and should not be considering the price difference, but it is about 400 lbs lighter than M5. It is more of an M-Sport 550 competitor price wise and it does extremely well against the m550 in both handling and acceleration. RCF, which is lighter, smaller, faster and stiffer competes against the M4 as it should be. The RCF track edition was created for track rats that want all of the standard Lexus goodness.
GS, still the best Lexus ever. I drive the GS450h F-sport(performance hybrid), and luv it
How does it do in the winter (assuming you live in a climate with snowy winters)?
Loved this model
Came close to getting one of these but it felt slow off the line and the interior/tech was dated. Pulled the trigger on an F90 M5. And no, I'm not worried about reliability. I put less than 5k miles yearly. Plus, I got the 7 year warranty and maintenance on my car. 😎
Earlando Johnson those are so sweet
@@BenHardyCars Thanks. I'm getting a ZL1 1le for my bday this fall too. Oddly, it will be my work vehicle. I've watched all of your recent Camaro videos. 👌✅👍
Well yeah that’s why you are not worried about the reliability because you are not driving it enough like you should. If you did, it would probably spent most of it time at the dealer for repairs.
Ok GS350 is not gonna vanquish a M or AMG....
My little F Sport may shake a Taurus SHO or something like that but that’s about it. I’m on my fourth one and am completely sold on this platform.
No matter how much you sing the GS's praises in this review, Lexus is still discontinuing it. The good thing is, it will be around on the streets for awhile because of it's reliability and build quality.
Maybe if the car was priced around mid 60’s its a good option but not at 90K MSRP brand new the GS is sadly losing out against the G80/Stinger. It’s a good car to get preowned
Looks and stances amazing
Sounds better than any current M car
Can't even compared the reliability lol
But it's slower than M5 and M3s and it's not in the same tech levels of BMWs
Does lexus still provide GS in 2020? I heard GS has been stopped in 2019
2020 is the last year.
I want one!
I have both lexus and bmw and when I go to the bmw dealership for service, I am floored by how alluring bmw cars are. Mybank account likes Lexus . But my heart is with bmw. The G S f could have used a better looking body
just got mine last month 2018 model, only I can think of right now is to finished my Payments
No comparison to the M5 or E63. Maybe the E53 and M550 and they trounce it in everything but reliability.
@Rob K. The interior of the Lexus might be nicer but please don't compare a BMW or Mercedes to a Toyota, the only reason Lexus still exist in 2020 is for its reliability, but putting an M5 with a Lexus excluding the LFA is an insult and ignorant
I used to own BMW's and be a huge BMW fan, after all the issues and lack of support from BMW I will never buy another one. We now drive lexus and I will never look back, sure the germans will beat it in pure performance but that's it. I find lexus much more comfortable, feels better quality everywhere, and actually more fun to drive on actual roads(maybe not on a race track). Honesty I roll my eyes everytime I hear a BMW fanboy talk about lexus because I was one once.
Rob K. What??the new m5 interior is nice. And the tech is light years beyond Lexus. I can’t believe the infotainment on the gsf, straight from the previous decade.
That being said Gsf is a decent car with sweet na v8, and reliability . Very nice interior also except for the steering wheel-come on Lexus, your gsf and rcf cannot have The same damn steering wheel as an is250. That’s just wrong.
It’s also much slower than even an m550i (523hp, 3.8 0-60)
Ps I had, have, lexuses and bmws and are fans of both brands.
Rob K. Huh? Why bring lc500
Into this? I love that car . That one is a lot nicer than the Gsf . I’d take the lc500 over the m850i for sure.
This is strictly about Gsf and it’s outdated tech and not that fast. Stay on point if you want to debate geesh.
Owned LS400, is350, isf, rx 450h; bmw335i,f80 M3, f80M 3 with zcp, m550i.
Which part of I’m a fan of both brands don’t u get? Just keeping it real. Lexus is very reliable and interior is decent (unless you go up to lc500 then interior is GREAT), and tech is old. Engines old- that’s why they are reliable.
Both great brands for complete different reasons.
If I had to drive across the country I’m taking the Lexus. No questions.
If I’m going for a fun drive (including mundane errands in town) I’m taking bmw and I do every time.
Rob K.
Bro what are you on? Look around the seat controls, dash and the door panels, definitely not even 5 series level... better than 3 but not 5 at all. Don’t compare Lexus to a BMW!
i own gen3 lexu gs350 and gs350 F... love the 2020 GS-F interior black and white but i prefer break calib orange it's more stand out.. lastly i had watch many other channels comparing GS-F vs M-power... lexus is no near nor close to M3.. comparing to M5 in an insult to bmw.. i am a lexus fan but i also know my stuff that lexus can't compete with M-power..
It looks like a bigger is. Thats the problem. The GS deserves its own look and characteristics like the 2nd and 3rd gen. There is a huge Community 2nd gen and 3rd gen owners till this day. Why? Cause it was its own car. Nothing looked like it. If they did that it would of never been discontinued. When people buy a car like this? They want it to be one of a kind. Specially when the GS always did. I own an 08 with only 54k miles on it. People till this day think its a brand new lexus. Sad that they went away from the GS being its own.
I still like this car, a lot. The quality, reliability, engine, are all great, but the car is simply outgunned when comparing it to the M5 or E63. It has one of the worst infotainment systems going too. Still though, there is something about that can't be denied.
Marcusjj1973 You don’t even have to go as high as the M5. The M550i is $10,000 cheaper and quicker from 0-60 than the GSF.
Afro Centauri that $10000 can be spent on just a few visits to a repair shop on a bmw so down the road owning bmw is not cheaper than owning a Lexus and BMW depreciates like a hooker
Whoa whoa whoa is that a new interior color???!!! 😍🥴 daaamn
Haha new interior ? That shit is super outdated. for that kinda money your better off buying a Camry trd.
How is the transmission compared to the ZL1 1LE in paddle shifting mode?
There is no comparison
BMW won't last
That is an spotless luxury car yeah!
Luv it..looks really sharp and top notch 💯
This video has been great..keep going👍👍
How is it in bad weather snow and rain
F Stands For "Fuji" not fsport
I want to buy a GS 350, being that it’s being DC’d should I still buy, if so what year, I am caught between the 15, 16, 17
I have a white ’18 GS 35 F Sport and I love it. Don’t procrastinate, it’s a highly sought after car now due to it’s discontinuation
Whatever you say, I love my GSF
Toyota reliability has no competition, not even BMW.
Is Lexus going to refresh the GS? I don't want to buy one and then have them change the body.
fromdaatx I’m not sure on that
What a beauty!
Yesssssssssssssssssssssssss GS F❤🏆😎🤪☠
Southpark Colorado?
Way better than a BMW
Try going over 60mph whn explaining the performance
I love my 2016 gsf
I have ppe headers and ppe dual mode exhaust and apexi intake silicone intake tube. Car handles like a dream but it definitely needs more power. Other than lack of power i love the car plenty of room and comfortable.
Rr racing supercharger coming soon 😎
To me it needs more torque.... 470 hp is plenty powerful
@@emekaiheanacho6971 how do you get it to have more torque?
An excellent sporty sedan with comfort. Cannot compete with M cars in performance.
Ahh, you're in SLC. That explains the beautiful mountains. I hope all is well from the earthquake not too long ago!
Jeff S it is thank you!👍🏻👍🏻
@@BenHardyCars I thought Lexus was doing away with the GS line cuz they ain't selling ??
It’s in the class with the 550i why do you tubers try to put it against the BMW M
it is unfortunate they discontinued the GS....
The handling is just a bit low compared to BMW , but as far as reliability- Lexus
Yes it's comparable. It's slower. It lasts 30 years longer. And it's better in quality. 👌🏽 Any time lexus over any modern German pile of junk that falls apart after 4 or 5 years
Needs those updated side mirrors....still old style for 2020😣
Lexus should upgrade interior layout and infotainment system with more horsepower, then I will buy it.
honestly people always say BMW is unreliable but they dont know they are talking about. A true BMW M car such as M3 or M4 is more reliable than any performance Lexus car because M cars arent factory line assembled. Just like AMG cars, the engines are hand built and 90% of the parts on a true M or AMG car are different than for example a M340i or AMG43. There is a reason why an M3 is still double the cost of an M340i
Hand built M3 engines that are prone to rod-bearing failure. Throttle actuators, Vanos solenoids, did you want me to keep going?
@@gavinr9107 ))))
excellent review .. and that car is one of the best !!.. if i have the means i will be buying one. the hell with the ( SUV's 👎🏽 )
I hate suvs. Never owned one and never will for now lol.
Just watch the video nice car but I know Lexus can do better they wait to long to do a update are refresh to stay competitive I believe if they gave this car attention it wouldn’t be discontinued
Nice but I’m keeping my Lexus RCF
I love driving them cars
10 year old interior...
Beautiful car 😍 . Unfortunately Lexus in it's infinite wisdom,👎and because customers are not lining up to buy this car, has decided that this will be the last year they will produce the GS-F or the GS. Seems all people are interested in are SUVs. The ones smart enough or wealthy enough to buy these wonderful cars will be very happy, 🙂happier if they maintain and keep these examples as they will only increase in value. Provided they don't trash them
Lexus will probably put down the LS500 like an old dog too in a couple of years. I don't see that many of them here in Los Angeles. Or the ES model. Only SUVs. If you have the means, hurry up and buy one now, before it's too late.
Cadillac CTV S
Who cares if it's not as fast or sporty as a German. 90% of the buyers would not go near a track nor afford the upkeep to take it to the track. Not like you can push cars on regular public roads.
NICE CAR BROO💪🏻❤️
both have different ways of attracting people ....lexus with its reliability and less exhausting but limited performance .....whereas bmw is a lot more zippy ...it pushes its engines to the extremes .....the logic is simple for bmw ....why would you not keep up with the newer tech features and the new looks....for lexus a new model is an option for you if you have the money otherwise the old one will keep going ....both are doing good in terms of business........a lexus GSF is probably the beast in lexus's standards ...not by bmw
Ни слова не понял но автомобиль очень хороший👍
Lexus > Bmw,Benz,Audi
Sounds good...
Lexus needs to step in 2020 . they are living in 2012 or 2013 ... Infotainment sucks absolutely and that price is horrendous
Lexus is not doing too good, last time i checked, they might be getting rid of the IS and GS lineup which is a huge deal in the car world
I know right it’s like they are ripping people off big time . I mean look at the interior they give you some super outdated shit. You look back at the older models and it still looks the same they just upgrade the looks on the exterior and slap on a ridiculous price tag and fuck you over. Atleast with the Mercedes Benz they switch up there interiors completely every other 2 years or so. But look at Lexus like you said they got stuck in 2012. Better off buying a Camry TRD for what Lexus cost !!!
So, where exactly in the video did you compare GSF with BMW M ???
Does not compare to an M car. Maybe the M340i. But not the M550i.
On the top end it would deff give a m550i a hard time after 100mph..quarter mile the 550 would deff probly win but on the highway these 5.0 v8 really move
carlover 247 Doubt it could hang with a 2020 M550i. Truly doubt it.
@@mji9208 I mean I just checked the stats and those m550i have 523hp so yes it deff would beat the lexus plus with the torque of the twin turbos. But the Lexus would deff beat a 340i on the top end .as for the new m550i eh idk probly not maybe your right .I'm thinking of the older m550i I guess
A faster time 0-60 or 1/4 does not make a car a good car! Most of u are not fast n furious street racers. Has to do with refinement, quality, comfortability, performance, style n design, excitment, fun, low maintenance costs, and most importantly RELIABILITY. Lexus checks all of these. Not so much for euro cars.
@@troytruong8246 if your talking performance the 340i can easily make rcf power with little to no effort.
Reliable and made by Toyota.
This shit is so much better than a bimmer
Only thing is the CD player why a CD player??!?!?
The Lexus will be cheaper to own in the long run and more reliable.
Yeah because it's a regular car
@@eptdy It's because BMW screws up on some things. They could make their cars more reliable, but they choose not to.
@@nokoolaid they push the limit.
@@eptdy Nah. I own a BMW motorcycle and I see their foibles first hand. They do stupid things like have solutions to things that are unnecessary, like a fuel strip instead of a float in the gas tank and now they have. 12 year warranty extension on them because they are crap or final drives that are poorly designed with sealed crown bearing or something common across cars and bikes: bad plastic. It shows up in throttle body pulleys that crack and break, usually when you''re on the road and then dead in the water. I've heard that the same kind of plastic issues happen with water coolant lines and intake manifolds on their cars. Then there are the water pump issues on their K bikes and water cooled boxers. The first 2-3 years were a nightmare. Every member of a local BMW club that bought a K1600 replaced at least one water pump and one guy replaced it 4 times. He even carries a spare on trips. Water pumps have been figured out for a long time. So has final drives, plastic and sensors for gas tank levels. They know how to design a balanced package that performs well, they just don't know how or want to produce a reliable product. My guess it's a dollar chasing a dime and they squeeze their vendors that do quality fade to ensure profit. Quality control and assurance should catch that, but it doesn't. The Japanese are just better at reliability in general.
@@nokoolaid bad plastic and bad rubber are bmws Forte. Ive owned 8 and on the older ones I had plastic water pump impeller issues on some. Rubber and plastic from german cars wears down much faster than that of a japanese car. But german engineering is usually better. Japanese more reliable
Goodbye GS LEXUS IS CANCELING YOU 😢😢😢
All that for a touch under $90000...No thanks.....Ill gladly enjoy the RLX sh-awd
a Premium Sport Sedan, not More, not a M, AMG or RS Competitor.
Lexus will be discontinuing this model very soon.
Planning on getting one!!!
😍😍😍
Looks like Utah