Unleashing a Boosted 347 Small Block Ford - Engine Power S2, E20
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- The team takes their wild 347 Ford to Stage 3 with Hellion 76mm turbocharger, making massive power on race gas.
PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE:
Air Flow Research: Cylinder Heads, Competition Porting, Aluminum, Assembled, 58cc Chamber, 195cc Intake, Ford, Small Block, Pair
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ARP: Cylinder Head Studs, Pro Series, 12-Point Heads, Ford, 289, 302, with Stepped Washers, Kit
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Clevite: Rod Bearing, H Series, Standard Size, Tri Metal, Chevy, Checker, 200, 229, V6, Each
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Clevite: Main Bearings, H Series, Standard Size, Tri Metal, Ford, Lincoln, Mercury, 221, 260, 289, 302, Set of 5
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Clevite: Main Bearings, H Series, Standard Size, Tri Metal, Ford, Lincoln, Mercury, 221, 260, 289, 302, Set of 5
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Cometic Gasket, Inc.: Head Gasket, MLS, 4.100 in. Bore, .027 in. Compressed Thickness, Ford, 289, 302, 351W, Each
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Comp Cams: Pushrods, Hi-Tech, Chromoly, Heat-Treated, 5/16 in. Diameter, 6.200 in. Length, Universal, Set of 16
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Dart: Engine Block, Cast Iron, 4-Bolt Mains, 4.000 in. Diameter Bore, 1-Piece Rear Main Seal, Ford, Small Block,Each
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DSS Racing: Main Cap Girdle, Billet Aluminum, Ford, 302, Each
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DSS Racing: Windage Tray, Billet Aluminum, Ford, DSS Support, Each
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Dupli-Color: VHT, Paint, Wrinkle Plus, Black, 11 oz., Aerosol Spray Can, Each
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Eagle Specialty Products: Connecting Rod Bolts, 12-Point, Cap Screw, ARP 2000 Series, Eagle Rods Only, Set of 8
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Eagle Specialty Products: Engine Rotating Assembly, Competition,(ESP)Forged Crank, Forged Mahle Pistons, H-Beam Rods, Ford, Small Block, Kit
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Edelbrock: Intake Manifold, Victor Jr,, Single Plane, Aluminum, Natural, 4-Barrel, Square Bore, Ford, 4.7L, 5.0L, Each
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Edelbrock: Intake Manifold, Super Victor, Single Plane, Aluminum, Natural, Square Bore, Ford, 289/302, Each
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Federal-Mogul Corporation: Fel-Pro, Gaskets, Intake, Composite, Printoseal, 2.10 in. x 1.28 in. Port, .060 in. Thick, Ford, 260/289/302/351W, Set
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Holley: HP Multi Point EFI Engine Management System, 4 Barrel, 1000 cfm, Kit
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Jesel Inc.: Rocker System, Full Roller, 1.7 Ratio, Shims, for AFR 165-225cc Outlaw Cylinder Heads, Ford, Small Block, Kit
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Jones Machine Racing Products, Inc.: Custom Accessory Drive System Including Water Pump, Alternator, P/S Pump, And Vacuum Pump
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Lunati: Cam & Lifters, 351W, V292HR10
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Lunati: Lunati High-RPM Link-bar Lifters SBF
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MSD Ignition: Distributor, Pro-Billet, Cam Sync/Magnetic, Adjustable Rotor, Ford, Lincoln, Mercury, 289/302, Each
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Quick Fuel Technology Inc.: Carburetor, Black Diamond Q-Series, 750 cfm, Mechanical Secondary, 4-Barrel, Square Bore, Drag Race, Each
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Quick Fuel Technology Inc.: Carburetor, Black Diamond Q-Series, 950 cfm, Mechanical Secondary, 4-Barrel, Square Bore, Drag Race, Each
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Summit Racing: Engine Block, Cast Iron, 2-Bolt Mains, 4.030 in. Diameter Bore, 1-Piece Rear Main Seal, Ford, Small Block, 302
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Total Seal: Custom Pinion Ring Set
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Turboxs: Blow-Off Valve, Type H, Aluminum, Clear Anodized, 10-25 psi, Universal, Each
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DSS Racing: Custom Forged Piston Set
Hellion Power Systems: 79-93 Mustang Single Turbo System, 76mm Precision Turbo GTS (billet wheel)w/ Ball bearing upgrade, and dual Precision Turbo PW46 46mm wastegates upgrade
Loctite: Loctite Ready Gasket (7 oz.)
Lunati: Custom Ground Turbo Camshaft, Hyd. Roller
Pennzoil: - Авто/Мото
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Build a boosted 434ci SBC with EFI just like this Ford build but try to get to 1500+hp
PowerNation *_I AM EMBARRASSED BY THIS SHOW!!!!_*
PowerNation *_Guys put the compresson around 12 to 13 to one then.boost the hell out of it.... 1000 hp first pull!!!_*
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Big fun stuff...Thanks a bunch...!
Once i found a pen in the lifter valley of a 305 chevy, pretty sure Pat worked on the motor after finding that.
best comment of the month.
Lol!
Left his calling card behind!
4:20 the crank looks scratched all to hell.
Man o' man I'd love that in my '91 Fox. With my poor driving skills and ancient, rock hard tires, just think of the crowds I'd terrorize at my local Cars 'n Coffee!.
tmmurphy you would be a legend
@@LA_Commander can you fit that same block in a fox with small hood scoop
Good one!
👎🏾
Not only from hitting crowds but blown tires from the 2-3 shift at 7500rpm
That’s a stout package 📦 great job!! That 5.0 & 5.8 Litre were the motor to have in the 90’s and still today 💯🥇❤️❤️❤️
I'm a Chevy guy and I like this episodes where they build Fords and Mopars, something new to learn
i like watching chev builds to and im a ford man
I'm a Mopar guy and I like watching Mopar builds so I can someday figure out how the actual fuck they work...
Uncle Tony's Garage and Nick's Garage for the old Mopars. Nick's garage will have more of a mix of muscle from all makes. Tony will surprise with something GM or Ford here and there. Both excellent channels. Ford guy but I watch other builds. Really got a kick out of Cleetus getting 1070 out of a GT500 engine. The Chevy engine I want to see is the 90-95 C4 ZR1 Lotus/Mercury engine in some kind of project. Someone had to have wrecked one. 375-425 NA
Yes...come to the dark side!!! Good....Goood!!!
@@pagosplace3065 We have milk n cookies!!
You guys doing this show again is the best present anyone could want! Thanks guys!!
Yeh baby ARP bolts to bolt down that oil pan. She won't blow off now
Andrew Gallagher A hater will hate. And a dolt will stink. Perhaps you should do a show? You may want to tighten up your spelling and grammar before you have a go. It is quite infantile.
Johnathan Bachman , he was making light of the fact that this is a Summit advertisement. And your amateur psychological analysis shows that you go off half cocked and type before you think, and if you have the ability to reason?, do you?
older than you Cali Well Sir you have left no Doubt your I.Q. is between a rock and a plant. Sponsors, advertising and parts donation is why these programs are on television. If you or the other mental heavyweights do not like it turn it off or don’t watch. Posting your adolescent ignorance just proves you have no clue and enjoy trolling. The question good Sir is why would you leave no question your dealing with bad Meth habit. You post’s are seriously ignorant. Before you make anymore posts get your G.E.D. Ask your cell block officer how this can be accomplished.
stock Chevy blows apart at 300 hp so im guessing old Fords are good for 500 or so considering there;s nearly double the bolts on Ford...my old S10 with a mild 305 with about 275 hp used to eat oil pan gaskets
Andrew Gallagher Exactly, I never could figure that one out.
Ahhh I just got hooked watching these this morning and realized this one was only posted an hour ago! Now I have to wait to see big boost!!!! Great job guys!!
I’d die for this engine in my 93 mustang. Serious power in the engine. Sounds so smooth too.
Start saving pennies. You can build up to 500whp on the stock 5.0 block, you'll crack it higher than that.
REF III I agree😂 I would’ve loved to have a motor like this in my 86 and would love to put one in my 93 now lol
Anthony Thomas my 93 now has 436hp* not 446hp on the dyno and 347hp at the wheels dynod. She’s a fun car can only imagine what 1,000hp on the dyno would be in a 3k pound car lol. I have every maximum Motorsports mid available now and she handles awesome. Would love to see how one of these Foxbody cars would do with this suspension work and that power. Super nice engine there
Garrettrocks98 that drive accessory kit 😍. This is a sick set up
REF III I agree! I said the same thing that accessory drive is sexy!
The cracks in the stock blocks actually develop opposite from what he said. They start at the mains and work up to the valleys before performing an impression of a banana split. Thats why the valley girdles developed for these blocks don't do jack.
The scariest thing I've ever been in is an early 90's full cage mustang with a "twin" turbo 347. That thing put 1100 to the wheels on a bad day and I'm lucky to be here to tell you that kind of power has no place on the street! That car was just plain stupid powerful and ran 8.50's in the 1/4 mile. I can't remember the MPH, I just remember my fear factor every-time I got into that thing.... That car honestly scared the hell out of me!
600hp to the wheels in a fox body is rowdy on the street, assuming it still retains the chassis & suspension to be a nice driver and isn't predominantly a cantankerous track car.
Such a setup on 295 drag radials won't hook up on every pavement surface until up into 3rd gear (3.73 rear gears). I think a lot of guys theorize and imagine how much excess they need and get carried away. Above the level I described, a 3200lbs Fox is really beginning to try to hurt you if some wise restraint isn't exercised. Busting tires loose at 60 mph can go bad really quickly
@@Resistculturaldecline:
I don't remember the exact tire anymore, but skinnies up front and 10" in the rear. It was a built car, full cage, K member, frame connected, QA1 coilovers, ect. But yes, 3rd gear 60mph that thing just loved to go sideways! On the strip it would leave on 2 wheels, but on the street it always seemed like it was wearing 2 pairs of roller skates. It was a cool car, just friggin scary.
@@Finite-Tuning Sounds like probably a 275 tire, which isn't even beginning to hold back 1000+ hp, not even close. Like putting a bicycle tire on the rear of a Japanese sport bike
Any part of this build that SAM was involved with, was top-notch!
Hell thats impressive power even naturally aspirated. Awesome job guys.
Anyone else notice the wear on crank journal when he measured?
@Bearded Clam You caught that too
saw that clearly
micro groove oiling system
yep and would have taken 1 minute to polish out.
wow, you guys aren't kidding. its real obvious. I mean, to a good engine builder
Beginning of the show: Watch this ford small block make 1,200 HP!
End of the show: We ended up at 800, don't talk about it...
Kyle Nelson he did say make power safely. There’s no doubt that little engine could be pushed harder. 800 hp in that galaxie is more than plenty
@@downhilldaddy9346 I agree they could have turned it up to 50 psi and made 1000 hp but I was just poking fun at the show for making such a bold claim at the beginning and not delivering. Cheers!
Kyle Nelson 10-4 I wasn’t trying to be mean mate🤙🏾
Much like the bold claim of reusing the parts the already had, which then turned into just using the crank and rods
Probably has something to do with the nearly 80% I:E ratio, and then making it more like 70% with 1.6s on the exhaust.
Good analysis and explanation of lobe separation in connection with boosted engines.
Awesomeness, that engine and turbo was just relaxing.
Great video and education. Thanks for sharing. I learned so much about turbos.
This is just what i need for my 1990 notchback 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾pure HP
Now that's one good-looking Bad Boy motor guys thanks for sharing
🏁 Totally Tricktastick! You guys rock! 👍👍🇺🇸
Can't wait and I love that Jones vacuum pump
I would love that engine in my 1960 f100.
While those oem blocks Crack at higher levels, at one stage the 302w had the lowest number of warranty claims of any ford engine.
Street-able to me means it starts and runs
Low expectations?
Shouldn’t you be watching makeup vids
Nathan Nicholas Garcia 52 Performance Fishing If I should be watching makeup vids this means you should be watching gay porn. 🙄😐
Ahhhhhh, you roasting em. You like the strokers. Lol jk 😂
@@chloehennessey6813 oh lawd, I literally spit my drink all over my desk hahahahahah
Wow! That’s some serious horsepower on that little small block
I don't know why but it is satisfying when the biggest displacement is shoved in to the smallest footprint. 347 Windsor, 572 Big Block, 427 Small Block etc. Seems like the best use of real estate to me. Like a Tinyhome for a family 🤣
More on this build please!!!
Ronnie Crawford makes the baddest 347 bar none.
Glad to see this goin into Pats car. That motor will do 150k miles before it'll ever need a freshen up. Great foundation all in all. Look forward to the install and tune vids
I'd love to see these guys build a 7.3l diesel powerstroke. See what they can get out of it.
No more than what others are getting out of them.
There are 10 million of those videos all over the internet.
Four our five hours....
Id love to see them not build a complete turd
Nunya Bidness I know a few guys who have built their 7.3s a 6.0 is a much better platform you can achieve much higher numbers
WTH, So basically stage 3 is a new engine around a turbo?
The rods , crank , and heads were reused . Lol
Yup.. and that turbo system is around 6I, so much for the average guy doing this
@@88_turbo_fox73 the average person can afford a lot of nice things if you have a decent job and don't saddle yourself with bad debt and other bad life choices.
@@bmstylee like a wife
@@3rd-eye-neenja563 That. Or a divorce with alimony and child support. As a guy you generally are going to get screwed on that front.
This was my favorite engine build.
Cool build👍
Nice! Can’t wait to see the engine in the 63 Galaxie.
Great work guys always the right performance parts 😎✌nice videos though
I always called foul on these presentaions..However, now that I see Pat has a 63. I'am all in. Nice job fellows. LOL.
I'll take one of those for my fox PLEASE... 😎
Living that fox life.
Must have been in your recommendations too lol. Just finished watching about your 2nd gear t5 issue earlier
Sure if you want a dart iron eagle block. Your going have to pay to play.
@@terrybaptist795 You can do it with a Ford Boss block too. Speed cost money that is not the time to cut corners. 300 hp N/A is plenty on the street. That said if you want to play in the big kids pool you better bring 500+ for 4 cylinders and 1000+ for V8's and larger, just the nature of things.
You're coyotes faster
The one single that I love about my V8 Henry's is that the first rebuild is on ford, due to the gudgeon pin offset the factory built into those magnificent motors. This offset allows for the pistons dwell point can be moved from after 0 degrees crank relative position, to a few degrees before 0 degrees indicated. This started the power stroke early also apearing to be a buffer to pingings negative effects whilst utilising the violent increase in combustion chamber pressure as an increase in total torque production . Camshaft valve timing events require recalculation due to change in piston dwell.
Nice little 347💯 I’ve got a 438 with high compression that ran Nitrous on but... we changed over to turbos and the power curve is AWESOME💯 Had to change fuel to Alcohol and change the cam and a little thicker head gasket but the little SBF makes nearly 2500 at the flywheel, so I’m happy with that💯
Holy shit
I'm impressed
STAGE 3?!?!?! Holy wowie wow! Many horse pressures will be created with this here stage three.
Man love this show
Now I have to build one of these 😍
Cannot wait to see that Galaxy run!
It would have been interesting to see how the manifold modified for efi and the throttle body worked on the first black and blue build before swapping to the Dart block and adding boost.
Wayne C engine masters done a build on this
nicely done!!
Bad ass video.
Almost sounded like some compressor surge was happening though.
Love to have this in my 87 foxbody. Id put a f1r procharcher on it.
That's a great sounding engine right there pats gonna as have fun with that
Love the videos. Great information, details, tips and helpful. NOTE: this is not stage 3 of an engine build. Quote,"That means we're gonna have to change some parts but the majority of them are gonna stay". ....Define majority please. That would require 'at least' retaining the block. Fun to watch regardless
Yeah think they kept the crank lol
Believe that's a drop in for my 73 bronco! !
Amazing build
I love this show
Love it Ford power baby
Lol ford hater. ford first on race day
And another thing is If your going to mod your engine I’m a 100% sure everyone goes after market to make it worth your time
STREET RACER you are pretty dumb seems to me your a ford hatter and a Chevy fan boy so stick with your shit box Chevy and I’ll stick with my non bankrupt ford power and btw my truck has 447,558 miles on my 1998 Ford F-250 with 5.8 and never been rebuilt and let’s not forget same transmission as well but ford sucks haha get a life Chevy fan boy
Engine stumbles, misses, then comes into boost.
Immediately after, “This engine has great manners right out of the gate”
Written by someone who has never started a rebuilt motor. You & 9 other dickheads know fuck all.
Right!! This video is absurd
Puts the girdle on a dart block that doesn't really need it , but didn't even have the girdle on the stock block to begin with. Lol.
What about the Kaase P38 heads? They have canted valves like a Cleveland for better breathing and use standard manifolds to make it easy to find the right intake and headers for your build. I'm looking at those for my project car, if I can get it off the ground! And I like the adjustability of the boost! Mount something on the dash and.....
I'd like to see you do a similar build of a coyote, be nice to see what similar cubes can do in a more modern block
That Galaxy is going to fly
they are gonna put it in that galaxy... i want it in my Fox body !!!
My mother is friends with a mechanic who used to be a big time drag racer, and he still has his foxbody Mustang which has a twin turbo 347 making 1,450hp.
You drilled into your Victor jr when you could have just bought the EFI Victor jr intake...why?
You guys are awesome, but I was wondering why you can't use a flat tappit cam for a roller?
"We're keepimg most of the parts for this build.."
Proceeds to throw out everything but the crank, rods, & heads..
exactly!
The Jones accessories are a nice touch. But, it needs more Cowbell!
Did they upgrade from the arp 8740 bolts to the arp 2000 bolts on the oil pan install too? I'm just curious because of all the oil pans that I've lost while driving over the years......lol.
Yeah.I was thinking like Pat, yhat sngine would go nice in "MY 63 FAIRLANE" too. LOL
Giddy up Galaxy ☄
Plug the oil drain holes over the cam. Increase the drains front and rear with mesh screens to catch valve train crash. That will decrease windage as well as stiffening the block
I'd love to have something like that in my 98 Grand Marquis..it would roll on for sure
This motor would be fun in my 64 Mercury Comet Cyclone.
Traveling salesmen daily driver like to see this engine teardown at 300,000 miles nice work guys take care
Gordonseries385 it’s a race engine. It will never see 300k miles. Maybe 50 if it’s lucky
Someone call wardrobe and get Mike a shirt that fits.
I used to think the same when I would watch this show years ago. Looks wierd.
Another combo probably worth noting being a dart block was sourced out is the use of the 4.125" bore block with the same deck height as this one and the use of a 3.250" crank coming out to the same ci at 347. Being the engine is an air pump getting airflow in and out of the engine is paramount. By using the bigger bore block you can utilize a bigger valve in the head making for easier airflow for the turbo to build HP. The shorter stroke makes high-rpm easier to get a better HP number up high. With the top-notch valve train components used in this engine, high-rpm, excluding the cam and rollers this motor should make it's goal of 1200-1250 HP at the crank.
4.125" bore block with a 3.250" stroke and a 5.40" rod length as a lot less rod angle also. Less piston to cylinder wall wear. A lot better way of getting the same cubic inches out of a 8.20" deck height 302 block. And it pretty much cost the same.
Would love to see you guys build an all aluminum dirt track 430 with dry sump
If that is going in a 63 galaxy shes surely gonna be a screamer
By the look of those NASTY welds on the intake, I knew right away a professional did not do it
Nope, but giving a new generation a chance to learn some real world skills is great. Besides that, it doesn't have to be pretty, if it works.
To leave those "gorilla glob" welds on that intake is a travesty. I'm all for helping the younger fellas (if you can find one that will actually work) learn and I certainly don't mind sharing knowledge and experience; BUT don't leave those welds like that! What you lack in welding ability, at least make up for it with grinding skills........ Good day
you guys are so cool
After looking closely at the gasket surface I’m surprised that Intake even sealed
I wonder what this motor would do with some chi high port 3v heads
This 347 has been a bombass build. Really good numbers and safe tunes mean no blown up engine. That is avoidable. This is mart engine building here ladies and gents. Stay safe mates!😊👍🏻😷
I'm a Chevrolet man through and through!... But that little ford engine made me stop and think about it. Impressive!
Infomercial!!!!!
Did I miss it or did they not rebalance after changing the pistons?
Also didn’t see any sealer on the lower head studs?
Are those pistons 2618 or 4032 aluminum? Building a very similar motor for my truck and am now at piston selection
What did you do for the Turbo Oil return? And compressor surge is no bueno.
@16:00 with the goal of making 1000 hp at the tire, on the chassis dyno😆
Well. You don't need it in the car to tune it.
How long did it take for the alt pulley to eat up the alt belt ? Reason I ask is I had the EXACT same pulley belt setup on my 700hp NA 363 sbf (5 speed car) and it ate 3 beats in 2 weeks. Decided to call Jones and they stated the pulley/belt setup was wrong for a high amp alt same as you got. They send me a thicker pulley and belt and that did the job. No more eating belts.
Bardzo mi się to podoba. Może uda się coś wykrzesać z 351W?
Love it that LS killer
On the stage one build how reliable would it be in a fox mustang driving on the weekends
The oil is called Platinum Plus...
Also the local strip club😂
Oil could be used there as well.
The oil is synthetic...
...as is half the girls at Platinum Plus🤘
Allentown, Pa? 🤣
South Carolina
Manuel Garza yeah man
I would have loved to see them push this engine to a 1000 horsepower.
This is a noob question but, do they replace the rockers because they can’t handle the power or do they actually increase power?
Is the Jones accessories system made for a 390fe? I have a 67 Cougar im building and would love to use this setup.
Perrrfect 🥰 motor
Enjoyed watching the series. But what would be interesting to most average guys... is how to build this power on a working mans budget. A 351w block and a Hong Kong hurricane can make these same numbers for a fraction of the cost. But your setup has a lot of pretty parts!
I thought the wider lobe separation for less over lap was to reduce the possibility of back flow to the intake.
Don't think about it like that. Whatever power you engine makes NA, adding boost just makes more power to that combo. 300hp NA engine makes about 600hp at 15psi with proper tuning.
Good ol Pennsoil, promoting the idea that you can make synthetic oil from conventional oil.
Great video would love to see a ford 4.6l go through this same process
Been done, do it yourself the knowledge is out there.
@@dj4monie wish i could aint got no money to do that they do😂😂😂😂
Oh yes let me see a dohc aluminum block build. Hell I'd even love a 2v
@@big6red389 Donate Plasma. You can make $400+ a month. Save all your money and you can easily build a turbo system for $1200-$1500.
These guys need to watch Richard Holder's videos, he says build a good N/A motor then add boost, boost works no matter, I would of made it 10 to 1 then boost
if they had just replaced the block and added turbos it would have been a better build for sure. the new cam is very mild and it seems that they were only making 354 ft*lbs and 364 HP na with this combination.
Did you change out to spring on the waste gate to a 20 pounder?