PORSCHE 992 GT3 ROAD REVIEW - EVOLUTION OR REVOLUTION?
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Here's a treat for all you Porsche enthusiasts. We have the keys to the brand new 992 GT3, the 991.2 GT3 and a very rare 997 GT3 with the Clubsport package. Three exceptional GT models from Porsche, so it's going to be interesting to drive them all back to back and compare them. We hope you enjoy. Please feel free to like, comment and share. Don't forget to subscribe.
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Awesome review as always !
Thanks Michael
Thanks for your honest review of these incredible machines. As the owner of a manual 991.2 I was seriously considering the 992. But after this review I will be keeping it, most likely forever. As an added plus, I think it is without a doubt the best looking of all generations of GT3. Thanks again! 👏👏
Thank you for this excellent review. I have a 991.2 GT3 with manual transmission, and an allocation for a 992. If I went forward I’d trade the 991.2 because of garage space limitations. Your review was extremely helpful in finalizing my decision. I was really thinking of going with the 992 for the first half of your review until you got to...sound...it is “quiet below 6K rpms, and docile.” (Paraphrased) Furthermore, you stated the other two were more fun at “normal” speeds. And you commented that this makes the 992 a better car to live with. But the point of a GT3 is to take it out for fun. It is a toy. Given traffic congestion etc., the reality is you are spending most of your driving time on roads below 6K rpms...it is only occasionally on back country roads you can play in the upper rev ranges given the corresponding speeds those revs generate.
I’ll be keeping my 991.2. Thanks for your insights. Given the rarity of these cars it isn’t possible for me to drive a 992 before making my decision.
Thanks for the feedback Rob. The 991.2 GT3 is a great car and I think you only need to upgrade if you're regularly doing track work.
I just took delivery in the US and I can say that the car is well over 90dB in the driver seat at 5k RPM with some load (up hill) and Sport Exhaust enabled. It is far louder than I expected and at least twice as loud as my 992 C2 and I haven't even gone about 6k RPMs. I find this car is a lot more fun and usable at the lower speeds than reviewers lead me to believe. I had to use launch control to get this level noise and enjoyment out of the Carrera but just getting up to the speed limit in the 992 is a blast. (I have the 6MT.)
997 all the way!!🙌🏼🙌🏼
That would be my choice
@@888mf4 Perfect power for the road.
Damn the 991.2 GT3 is still looking stunning
Totally agree
i can't understand why Porsche is perfect in any model.🤙🤙
Great review! I think it’s all about the generations… ask a youngster from 18 and he would choose the 992 GT3 which will probably also his favorite over 20 years..🙃
So true!
Pretty much a spot on comparison/review. All three have their individual charms. The 992 is just a much bigger/better step up in many ways over its predecessors…
Thank you. Yes, they are all quite different. The 992 GT3 would make a great daily but the 997 GT3 feels more special in lots of ways.
Always had a soft spot for the 997.1! Great video
Thanks. The 997 GT3 and GT3 RS really are very special cars.
Yeah same here. That green looks great.
@@888mf4 Do you still own the two 4 Liter? Dream car!!! These are soo special! My favorite GT3 of all time
Me too, for me the 997 gt3 retains the core values of a 911. Historically 911s were never really lifestyle cars as they are now, far to uncompromising for that, and thats what makes a 911 special. If it feels just like another car when cruising - which is what we mostly do, then for me its lost the ‘mojo’. having just sold my 2.4S 1973 911, and then hopping into a 991 gt3 it felt like a completely different car, awesome for sure but big and refined, the drive in the 997.1 GT3 (RS) , felt oh so familiar, raw a little uncompromising and just a bit more special.
@@simmo2745 The first 997 GT3 RS is a wonderful wonderful car!
Missed opportunity of doing a sound check off the 3 at the end😕
It was a little dark by the time we finished, in case you didn't notice.... The noise in the 992 GT3 is only really audible above 5000rpm and we don't like disturbing the neighbourhood with loud exhaust revs.
Great video guys! Can’t wait for the first 992 GT3’s arriving in the US!
Thanks
Really enjoyed that Mark. You review from the perspective of a regular driver , as opposed to harris or clarkson. Obviously the 997 is the one to own. 💪🏻😄. Let’s get mine on channel next
Thank you Guy. We try to give honest reviews on the channel.
"something here for everyone" (and their pocket) but that's not exactly the outcome. Porshe GT cars, almost a religion. Great review.
991.2 is the sweet spot.
I think that was my conclusion
Aahhhh, thank you for concluding in Ferrari terms, so relatable. ;) But seriously loved your insights on the cars.
excellent review.
Thanks
At last something new and fresh on the subject. Thank you!
Thank you!
Great video! The comparison with the CS, Scuderia and Speciale is Great! I would prefer the 991… like the Scuderia.. most fun to drive. The Fizz may always be with you! 🚗🤙🏻
Thanks!
992 GT 3 is aesthetically, stupendously appealing, put the previous versions into shadow section
Great review, just reassured me of my new purchase of a 997.1 GT3 RS. Just waiting for its arrival here in NZ!
For me the 997 gt3 retains the core values of a 911. Historically 911s were never really lifestyle cars as they are now, far to uncompromising for that, and thats what makes a 911 special. If it feels just like another car when cruising - which is what we mostly do, then for me its lost the ‘mojo’. having just sold my 2.4S 1973 911, and then hopping into a 991 gt3 it felt like a completely different car, awesome but much bigger and very different. The drive in the 997.1 GT3 (RS) , felt oh so familiar, sports car small, raw, a little uncompromising and just a bit more special.
Great choice. Did you buy black with orange wheels or orange with black wheels??
Nice to see you got back to 'full-on' reviews Mark! Very well done
Great back to back review. Thanks for a great episode. Oh and it's Nomex not Nomax.
Great review! Please though, no more saying suede, it’s Alcantara. One is a natural product the other synthetic 😉
I don’t think the 997 GT3 really suffers on the power front, just needs more effort to make it work and will still keep with most cars on a twisty road. On track it becomes a factor, but not on the street. Mine will happily still do over 200mph, so it’s not lacking in out and out speed 😬
Thanks. Yes, alcantara!!
@@888mf4 and then there’s the new stuff on the 992, Sport-Tex……so to be honest maybe actually easier sticking with Suede than figuring out what’s on what these days 😂
I have a 991.2 GT3, I can’t believe the 992 gt3 is any quicker real world the engines the same pretty much, turn in on the 992 sounds a real step in as does the refinement. Thanks for the review
The 992 GT3 has better suspension set up and 50% more downforce than the 991.2 GT3, therefore it will be a lot faster on a race track. However on the road you won't ever get close to the limits of either car. That said, you do feel the 992 GT3 has much better turn in but that doesn't necessarily make it a more exciting car to drive on the road!!
@@888mf4 thanks, great reviews and content by the way.
The same goes though even compared to the 997. In the real world on your favourite b-road the gap by the end of that road marginal, as you can only push so far. But as with every generation Porsche surprisingly make leaps forward and the performance difference is evident, especially on track.
The new gt3 is perfect and the engine is amazing....So expensive for me ;)
99' 996 GT3... the purest
I had a 996 GT3 in black for 3 years. I loved it. We will feature one on the channel soon.
Excellent video and great conclusion 👍
Thank you!
excellent down to earth review .. you could have made this video with your own 4.0 , but I guess you don't refuse the chance to drive that green beauty . Cheers
Thanks. I didn't include the 4.0 in this review as we were comparing GT3 models. The RS versions tend to be lighter and more track focused and this was a road review. However there is a lot of the DNA found in my 4.0 from the green car we tested, hence why I liked it so much. Unfortunately it does have a slightly heavy clutch so you wouldn't want to be stuck in traffic with it.
Great to see the back to back comparison. I have the middle one, a 991.2 and what you said is very interesting. I think I'll stick with mine, I want to enjoy driving at lower speeds.
Only bad thing about your reviews is you can’t make them fast enough lol great as always
Thanks
great back to back!!!!
997 GT3 for me!
Love the review, beautiful cars 🥰
Thanks for the positive feedback
Thank you!!!! AMAZING MACHINES!!!🏎🏎👏👏👍👍
Manuals are for real men
The greatest cars ever made #911❤️
One of the best cars ever made.
993 for me
The 993 is air cooled so sounds fantastic. Personally prefer the 964.
Very important review for anyone lucky enough to be in the market for 1 like myself who finally gets an opportunity at age 44 but in Australia where the wait for new 992 is next yr & 991 are priced ridiculously high
Australia is a tough place to be for supercar owners but you do have good weather and nice beaches!!
Excellently put Mark, great review
Thanks
@@888mf4 Hi is the 992GT3 COLOUR, AGATE GREY?
You forgot the 996. it also has the Nomax seats. I love the feeling of driving it every time I am on my way, knowing that of course it is not as fast as todays cars
Fabulous Mark. You should have way more followers than you do.
Spread the word
Great to see all the cars together the 992 is as you say is the best looking GT3 yet! Arguably a better road car and a better track car. So the consensus is that if you can get one why wouldn’t you.
Sure the 991.2 is a great car and all you need but if you could get the 992, for the price difference i think you definitely would.
The 997 is a much older car now one that is not really suitable for daily duties or touring. Its pluses are that its small in feel and more analog.
My conclusion If you could only have one and could afford any I would be buying the 992.
The 992 styling inside is a step change the outside styling is as you say as good as any supercar the engine is improved the suspension / steering again a step change.
Note: I have owned 996 and 997 GT3’s and have spent time in the 991.2. They are all great cars
Very interesting review. Love the insight 👌🏼
Thanks
Very honest review of 3 stunning cars Mark :)). When are you getting one ?
I am very happy with my 997 GT3 RS
Such a good video!
Thank you
Prefer the leather steering myself...
Each to their own
Leather would last longer in better conditions
@@jmm1174 alcantara may grip better, but leather gets the style points by a mile.
Not sure how you dislike the 918 seats
I don't dislike them. I just prefer the 997 GT3 clubsport seats.
GT3 is always a treat! What I don’t like is their new cockpit looks with the pale and boring looking rpm counter and dashboard in general…! Leaves room for an update for 992.2 .
Nicely done.
What is the color on the 992 GT3
Agate grey
Thank you great review. I have a 992 GT3 Touring on order and have to finalize whether it will be standard or PDK. The car will be a daily driver. I'm concerned about the traffic in my city ( Montreal); everywhere I go I'm in serious traffic. What is your opinion? thanks
Thanks for the positive feedback. Coincidentally I am moving to Montreal at the end of the year or early next year. In respect to your question, I haven't driven a 992 GT3 PDK yet but if it's anywhere near as good as the PDK gearbox in the GT4 then I would recommend it in the GT3 Touring. You don't want a manual box if you're sitting in traffic. If you can order PTS then choose Jet Green Metallic or Viola HK.
Porsche also made 997.2 GT3 3.8L and 4.0L cars after the 997.1 GT3 3.6 L. You mentioned that the 3.6 was the last one they made. Good video.
Yes they did and I own a 4.0 GT3 RS, 2012 model number 586/600. The green one we tested was the last 3.6L version John. Sorry I didn't make that crystal clear.
@@888mf4 lucky you. I saw a 997 4.0L for sale with very low mileage for just under £500k! I have a humble 997 C2. But I love it.
@@888mf4 lucky you. I saw a very low mileage 997 GT3 4.0L for sale for just under £500k. I have a humble 997.2 C2. But I love it.
991.2 GT3 looks so much prettier!
I love the front of the 991.2 GT3 and the back of the 992 GT3
Great review, amazing set of cars 💯
Thanks
Nice video. How was the gearbox in the 992 compared to the 991? Also, can you feel a power bump between the 991 amd 992? Not much difference on paper
The power output is fairly similar in the 991.2 GT3 and 992 GT3 so hard to tell unless you are on a race track. The extra downforce in the 992 GT3 would certainly help it to lap a lot quicker than the older model, combined with the better suspension set up.
I own the 991.2. What i have taken from this review is that it’s more aggressive than the new one? More noise and overall aggression? Am i right?
It is louder than the 992 GT3 and it doesn't handle as well, but that makes it a little more exciting on the road. The 992 GT3 is so sharp and so capable that I don't think you can exploit it on the road.
@@888mf4 excellent review. Just what i was searching for. It had to be measured and that’s what you did.
great conclusion
Lovely cars, but looks like this was filmed in the 90’s with that camera quality!
Nice review, thanks. 👍🏼
Thanks
Thanks. For the job.
German engineering
Awesome 👏
Good video thanks for sharing! Would you go for gt3 or touring and manual or pdk out of interest? For a weekend car. I can't see people using this as daily although possible. when you have $ to buy this, surely can afford a normal daily for clocking the miles on
If I was buying a weekend car I would choose a 997 GT3 RS. Ideally green with black alloys.
@@888mf4 I'd buy sam Moores car. But I doubt he l ever sell it! Perfect spec for me.
Great review Mark.
Which porsche you think is the best for B roads?. Thanks.
Thank you. In my opinion the 718 GT4 is the best car for B roads.
@@888mf4 thanks fo your answer,I really appreciate your opinion And really respect it since your vast experience with Porsche. But in terms of not just performance,also including subjective sensations your answer is the same?. After watching also jankos video about his decision about not getting the new gt3 touring , I guess gt3’s are not the best option for b roads. Its a tough call between the 718 gt4 pdk and 981 spyder in my opinion. As always thank you very much.
What's the colour of the 992 ? Thanks
Where is the first and best of them all, the 996 GT3?
That will be featuring on the channel soon….
997.2 GT cars are still best looking.
Can’t you take the 992Carrera to track and home again?
You can take any car to a race track. The GT3 is specifically designed with downforce for the track though. Hence the big rear spoiler !!
Thanks for the review, really enjoyed it. Question, how would you rate the ride quality of these 3? Lots of reviews say 992 is a bit too firm for normal road use. Is it any worse than 997?
I found the 992 GT3 very compliant and no worse than the 997 GT3. It was a lot quieter at low speeds.
so, u have a 997 gt3 4.0? Could u buy it in both 3.6 and 4.0?
The 997 GT3 RS 4.0 was produced in 2011 and 2012. Only 600 examples were made.
$250k questions I'm struggling with right now...manual or pdk? And what colour?
6spd white for me. i'd go with this color for a turbo s
Great review!
I don't care about HP, handling, price, keep going, what I fear is a dependable engine. Between cam bearing failures in one engine family, cams wiped with another stab at an engine design, every time I try to get in one of these, it's one nagging thing after the other. Where is the bulletproof engine family? You don't hear the vette engines having these many problems. Never met a corner I didn't like, but YEAR killing me, Larry
4:12 I disagree. Those fuzzy wheels get nasty. Lets face it we dont all keep our hands as clean as they would have to be on a regular basis for that wheel to maintain its nap. Oh but i must clean it?! Ok have you done that? Its not easy. Sure i could use gloves every time but its silly. I dunno give me a traditional leather wheel. I love the alcantara everywhere else. Just not on my touch point.
Each to their own. It doesn't cost a lot to re-trim an alcantara steering wheel and you can even keep them fresh with a little TLC.
For a proper drive out I’ll take an Alcantara wheel every time. It feels so much more tactile and feels like you have more contact somehow. Wouldn’t have it any other way on mine.
Most of your reviews have same conclusions, old is better . Old Spyder is better , old seats better, old GT3 better.
Porsche would not spend millions to make new product worse than old. Most shocking review was Spyder review , you say that regular suspension is more bouncy and fun that new 718 Spyder suspension from GT3 ☹️
Other than that, cool video of 3 cars together.
The 981 Spyder is a great car, one which I owned for over a year. The sound is much louder than the 718 Spyder and this is a well known fact, hence people are going to JCR for aftermarket exhausts. In my review of the 718 Spyder I said that the turn in was better but that it needed an aftermarket exhaust. The problem with aftermarket parts is that they can affect your warranty. The 992 GT3 is a better car than the 997 GT3 and 991.2 GT3 but it is a very different car to either of the older models. It all depends on what you want from a car. Remember that Porsche have to work within regulations and hence they have fitted particulate filters.
Every new iteration Porsche release of a model is far superior in terms of performance, build, refinement to the previous ones. However, does that make it more entertaining or engaging? Well that is the beauty of opinions. 😉
The 997 GT3 appealed more to me than more modern metal and is why I bought one over a 991 GT3 and 981 GT4 at the time.
Agreed Spyder Man. Where's all the comments about the 'tall gearing' with the GT3s? Assume like the GT4/Spyder, you are doing over the speed limit in 2nd gear at the redline...yet nobody comments about it unless it's the GT4/Spyder. Go figure.
@@randomhawks3232 that’s because people have short memories. When the 981 GT4 came out the 991 GT3 of the era had PDK only, and journalists simply ignored what came before and had to find fault. My 997 GT3 has extremely long gearing but there were no reviews marking it down and saying it was terrible at the time. I frequently bring this up when hearing on the GT4 is bitched about and then strangely the conversation falls silent! 🤦🏻♂️
I had no issue at all in the GT4’s I’ve driven and saw them as the more old school of the modern GT products.
But SCUD is better than the Speciale. Come on now!
That was exactly my point. The 991.2 GT3 has more a more emotional connection at lower speeds, just like the 430 Scuderia.
@@888mf4 So glad we’re on the same page! I know I’m gonna get a lot of hate for this, but Speciale is one of the biggest disappointments of my driving career. I owned a Scuderia a few years back. Then was hoping to pick up a gently used Speciale back in 2018. But after driving one in Italy, I became quite disappointed by it as I thought that it was too big and the exhaust know it was totally underwhelming. At any rate, I just bought another Scuderia last year and very happy with it!
@@888mf4 So glad we’re on the same page! I know I’m gonna get a lot of hate for this, but Speciale is one of the biggest disappointments of my driving career. I owned a Scuderia a few years back. Then was hoping to pick up a gently used Speciale back in 2018. But after driving one in Italy, I became quite disappointed by it as I thought that it was too big and the exhaust know it was totally underwhelming. At any rate, I just bought another Scuderia last year and very happy with it!
@@timmietz I used to own a 2004 Challenge Stradale from 2012 - 2016. There is a video of it on my channel comparing it to the 430 Scuderia and 458 Speciale. You only realise the huge difference between each car when you drive them all back to back. I currently own a 997 GT3 RS 4.0 but if I was looking for a Ferrari I would buy the 16M.
@@888mf4 I own a 997.2 as well. Albeit it is a 3.8 GT3RS in that gray:red spec. To me, that generation is the perfect Porsche. It seems like we have very similar taste in cars. I am very excited about my upcoming STO. Yes, it is not the fastest but it is probably the last car of its kind. LOVE YOUR CHANNEL by the way!! You are doing some great work with it!
“Feels special” is one of the worst ways to describe a product, especially the seats.
Be more specific.
The 997 GT3 seats really hug you, and the fabric helps.
991.2 is the last goodlooking, unfortunately. That is sad 😔
The 992 is very ugly!!
Nah
to each their own. i strongly disagree.
Definitely disagree!! The 992 is gorgeous and especially so in GT3 form.
HOWEVER, IMO the interior is moving in the wrong direction. They are going more for the luxury look, rather than a sporty look. I think they could have done a better job on the Tach. design and the font of the numbers. Also, at night the left hand side speedo looks rather flat and boring.
The 992 is the best looking Carrera ever
"Drive to the track and drive home" bless the germans act like they've discovered something new ! Muscle cars were doing that 50+ years ago
But only as long as there weren't any corners involved.
@@davidowen2859 who told you that tosh?
@@mcmc1863 Everyone who ever drove a heavy lump of metal. "Simplify then add lightness".
@@davidowen2859 really? Yet the galaxie 500 alone, which isnt the most nimble of the muscke cars, regularly wins events at goodwoods race track alone, quite a twisty demanding track.
Also the mustang at sliverstone, cup winner many times.
Winning records in USA in inter continental racing, corvettes, camaros etc
Ironically its euro boxes that are far heavier now and performance, mostly, isnt on par with the US cars, corvette series, camaro line up, ford GT
@@mcmc1863 Read your own comment you said 50+ years ago. I'm 58 and I've driven quite a few of them old muscle cars you were crowing about. Go try a few your self then come back and comment.
Why do all your conclusions always go back to you having a 4.0 RS? Biased conclusions? Or do you feel you need to remind us every time that you have a ‘halo’ car? At least try to not blow your horn every video and watching will be a bit less cringe.
I gave a very honest view of all three cars and right at the very end I said my favourite was the 997 GT3. Telling people what car I own shouldn't be a bad thing. Be proud of what you have, especially if you've made it on your own without any help!!!