Because Darksiders 3's reception has been all over the place, I'm curious to hear what everyone thinks of the game. Feel free to comment how you felt about it!
I managed to get this for free this month through my PS Plus membership, so I can't really complain. The texture pop-in is still there, the framerate is still around 30 FPS compared to what looked like 60 FPS from the last two (Note: I've never played them), but I didn't have any crashes, or any bugs that you've experienced, and on top of that, they've added a few things since launch apparently. There's a New Game + mode, but it doesn't quite work as I expected it to. Most games offering this mode will save your game's final progress after exiting the credits. This game doesn't, so if you beat the game, but choose to hold off on selecting a new difficulty for NG+, you'll have to continue right before the final boss again. When you select a difficulty, the game goes back to the Title and Menu screens. From there, selecting Continue will start NG+. All of your items, your souls, your skill points, and your enhancements are carried over. Your hollows are actually locked again, to my own surprise, and that is something I appreciate because they were, in a way, essential to the game's progression. However, the configuration of your enhancements remain the same, so you know which weapons you left them on. Honestly for this part, I wish God of War's NG+ worked the same way with its second main weapon. The items you find throughout the world are pretty much the same, though I haven't gotten far to see if any of them have changed. What has changed are the addition of new enemies scattered throughout the world, with new items they drop for further enhancements to your weapons, and now your armor. There is also the addition of a "Classic" battle mode that is more in line with the first two games. Items are instantly used, with no waiting through an animation of Fury using them, and your own attacks can be interrupted if you need to dodge. At the time of writing this, I've only reached Vulgrim the first time in my second playthrough, so I don't know if anything else is different, and I've already pretty much written an essay, so I'm going to stop it right here. As a final note to you, Liam, look up Amid Evil when you get the chance, and maybe also take a look at the Descent game series from Interplay. I didn't grow up playing Doom or Quake, so Descent was my childhood 3D gaming experience.
It's cool and it's very difficult even on balanced eish i can imagine it on apocalyptic but i love the games and characters with 1 or 2 being my favourite
I can't see a game with Strife, that isn't FPS... But even that isn't a bad thing... If you follow Doom Eternal formula, add some Ghostrunner /Mirrors Edge in the mix, you cold have a fkg awesome game.
Technical Failure. It’s game design that fails to take into account the limitations of the hardware it’s going to run on. It forgot it’s a game. It forgot the player. It forgot… It was supposed to be… Darksiders.
Whitelight's latest essay is a must-watch for any Darksiders fans out there,or any other videogame fans in general. This video is also quite well made. Thanks for sharing.Happy NY.
I played this game on release. After I passed it the first time, I had fun, but definitely thought it to be the weakest of the series. However, I played it a second time after a few patches and DLC and honestly, the introduction of Classic mode, made the game alot more fun. While the game is more simple in it's mechanics, I really liked it. And I would like to add that the side weapon's elemental properties apply not only to dodges, but to their charge attacks. I melted most bosses, literally with a high arcane and flame hollow. If you have not yet, revisit the game and purchase the Keepers of the Void dlc. It brought new life to the game and made it, for me at least, stand shoulder to shoulder with the other games.
Good video overall. I liked D3 enough to Platinum it, but it's not a title I'll ever return to. It has gotten a lot better with patches, particularly the i-frames which I bitched about on Reddit for some time. But the devs listened and improved on a lot of the features. They also brought back Classic mode, meaning the way things were in D2. That is, healing is instant instead of having an animation, and dodging i-frames are identical to D2. I actually really liked exploration despite the vistas feeling uninspired. I'm looking forward to seeing what they can do with D4.
The camera really ruined this game for me.. I liked the feeling of the second one more. Side note: This game is nothing like Dark Souls.. I don’t know why it would even be mentioned.
The souls system is identical to Dark Souls, right down to the soul pickups scattered around the world. The only major difference is how much less varied your stats are.
Nothing like Dark Souls? How about every single enemy being able to kill you with a small amount of hits, having to level up through currency, no actual checkpoints (only starting at Vulgrim spawn points), losing your currency when you die, and a bad camera? All very Dark Souls like. Luckily this game has a legit good combat system with combos and aerial moves, actual platforming, and a character that moves like they should in an action game. The only problem is that they ripped from From Software too liberally. If they wanted to borrow things, fine. But did they really have to use currency for leveling up, losing it at death, and having to wait for an annoying animation when healing? I understand that some of this has been fixed with patching, but it still annoys me that the game took so much needlessly from From Software. Everyone is doing that these days (like that disappointing and shameless new God of War) and I don't understand why. From Software has made great games, but they are overrated as hell and their style isn't even that remarkable. If anything, I think Darksiders would have benefitted taking more from Ninja Gaiden, Devil May Cry, and Yakuza. Those games have legitimately amazing combat systems that never get old while SoulsBorne games get redundant and played out. The best SoulsBorne style game I've played through is Nioh, and that's not even From Software. Team Ninja took the formula and made it WAY better funny enough. I'm just sick of everything having to be like Dark Souls and Bloodborne when games like Devil May Cry and Ninja Gaiden have much better combat systems.
It's pretty darn similar to Dark Souls to be quite honest. There's a lot of striking similarities between the two. Obviously it's not an actual Souls game BUT it is close enough that you could easily consider a Souls game.
@@SefniAsheforr the platforming was gutted compared to the first 2. If War, a warhammer40k space marine wielding an iron fucking surfboard can wallrun and have an actual good fucking jump, why can't Fury? My biggest problem with this game was the platforming being so barebones and basic.
Darksiders 3 is marvelous. Sure, it's different from DS1 and DS2, but it's still amazing. Great combat, great monster and world design, great voice acting and I really like the story. Dramatically streamlined upgrade system is unfortunate but it works. As for story being smaller scale, kinda expected after the excessive excess of Darksiders 2. They had to tone it down dramatically, make the overall scope even smaller than Darksiders 1 in order to be absolute sure they could even make a profit.
hmmm... I didn't have any problems with the combat system or managing multiple enemies, but maybe that's because I treated it as kind of a more action-focused Dark Souls and not a more punishing Darksiders. And since I didn't really like the combat systems of the first two games, I really enjoyed this game. Also, I mostly used the fire hollow throughout the game and really made use of the upgrades.
Indeed, I just found that out and I'm wondering why Liam has not done that yet. Now seems like a good time to do so, either that or he has a good reason of why he hasn't looked at it yet.
Okay, I have finally finished the game. I had no bugs whatsoever (PC) in world load times, no framedrops etc. the game looks great, I guess they fucked up the PS4 version. I disagree strongly about the newer weapons making the older ones obsolete. I used the flame hollow till the end, I used it even more than the whip. That could be because I actually had fun looking around for relics and adamantine. When you use the upgradesystem consistently you can use whatever weapon you want. The enchantments are awesome, I infused my flame weapon with lifesteal, the whip with lurcher generation upon destroying stuff and the crossblade with the i-Frames. I agree on the story, it is great. The twist hit me hard! And even harder when I realised that Lust wanted to give fury the location of envy (who was supposedly alreadey in captivity). When Lust said that I was like "HA! You idiot I already got her!" ... seems like I am the idiot. I disliked Fury in the beginning, she was annoying to listen to, but the more sins I killed, the better I liked her character. (I only want to attack your thesis, not you as a person, I hope I wrote this well enough for it to be clear) Also: You deserve more viewers, your content is awesome and I'd back you on patreon if I had the money. Stay safe, Lukas
I was gonna write a similar response, but it seems i do not have to. The only thing i would change from what you said is that i was intrigued by Fury since the begining, like Liam. I agree with you Lukas.
Honestly, they fucked up the XB1 version of the game too. I had the glitch of falling through the floor maybe once or twice? They load times and the frame rate drops where the game basically chugs while loading resources. Maybe it was because I have the original XB1 and an XB1X, maybe having the XB1X would reduce the frame drop amount.
@@everinghall8622 I don't disagree. Darksiders 3 was abyssal in performance. They did better with Darksiders Genesis. 3 visually looks good for the most part but it chugs like crazy.
Enjoyed the video, I really loved Darksiders 3 and find it to be my favourite of the 3 games. I don't really get your criticisms of the combat and level design (hollow switching is the coolest part of the combat idk why you're abandoning old hollows for the base damage stats) but I can see if you aren't investing in enhancements and weapon upgrades then exploration would feel unrewarding. Wouldn't it be more of an issue with enemy scaling over the systems themselves though? The game isn't scaling enemies up in difficulty enough to encourage using the higher level combat techniques, which require you to invest in enhancements and upgrades to be effective? idk either way I didn't really encounter the issues you presented but I think it still is indicative that the game doesn't quite prop its own systems up enough. Either way I'm glad Darksiders is back and I'm relieved I enjoyed 3 as much as I did. It's a shame you didn't quite get the same experience from it.
I wonder what difficulty he was on? I personally loved the combat in the game after I received my first hollow, but I was on hard. I needed to upgrade my gear and level up if I wanted to survive.
I was personally really dissapointed with this game. I think it was awesome gameplay wise, if it wasn't I wouldn't have platinumed it - but I don't really like the souls mechanics, it just felt like a step backwards after the improvements second game did and I just really liked coming up with different builds in the second Darksiders and tailoring a playstyle that suited me best (even though the items are RNG based it's not that hard to focus on specific builds) - here you have just souls and shards - it never felt rewarding to loot anything here to me, also some of the design elements and puzzles were just outright frustrating - especially that fucking tornade in The Scar. And the story is just... So bad in my opinion. It's well acted and some encaounters and moments are good, but it picks to something really interesting in the last two boss fights - which is like last 20 minutes of the game... The character development of Fury is just not enough for me, when the rest is just giant fetch quest that does nothing for wordbuilding and enhancing the overall lore... I played on hard and apocalyptic and I would say that upgrading your weapons, leveling and finding the right enhancements for your playstyle is crucial if you want to make it. While some enhancements are mediocre at best, some fully upgraded are outright broken - like the Havoc power one or the one that scales your damage to the amount of souls you're carrying... It's hard to be objective here, because Darksiders 2 was so much better in everything imho that even though Darsiders 3 is like 6-7/10 game I always feel gutted when I think about what it could've been if it build up on the second game...
The problem I had was the combat never really evolved, each weapon used the same inputs, and you never really unlocked new combos, I was looking forward to switching forms dmc style mid combo to invent new combos. the fire one sucked, I only used lightning and force. That wrath attacks were really lame and lackluster. The platforming was clunky and ugly compared to the first 2, Ieam, they completely dropped the wallrunning and item /gadget based progression. The armor upgrades were just pallete swaps, boring. They removed EXECUTIONS, in the game that had the most potential for cool executions. On console the game has to load for 20 seconds, sometimes within 10 seconds of eachother. Exploration gave nothing of value, I just bought upgrades from volgrim. I've never been so dissapointed in a game.
I can understand why people have such mixed feelings about Darksiders 3, but it's currently my favourite of the series so far, and I hope the remaining two games get made. Yes, two. I believe the plan was to have four games each focusing on one horseman, then the final fifth game which would feature all four. My personal hope is that they make 4 a Gears of War style cover-based shooter, because that would be so wonderfully different from the others.
I don't know if using a cover system is the best idea for Strife, considering we see him jumping off of another enemy and blasting demons at the end of DS3. I imagine a Max Payne-esque experience for DS4. Something that feels free-form and interesting. I feel like a cover system would restrict Strife's movement way too much. Plus, cover systems aren't always implemented well, so that worries me to think about. Idk lol. But yeah, a fifth game with all four horsemen would be awesome. I think that was Vigil's original concept for Darksiders. Co-op action game with the four horsemen of the apocalypse. At least, that's what I remember from Gameumentary's doc on the series.
Almost each time you complained about something I just found myself thinking "That's what I like about it.." - When it comes to exploration for loot, I found Darksiders 1/2 which were already too easy got even more so if you spent even a little of your time exploring. - I found the combos fairly interesting to be fair, sure it's no DMC5 but it gave options especially when rapidly switching holos and on the harder difficulties the game had a level of tension I have rarely experienced in one of these kinda games. - Personally I never found the bosses to feel as unfair as you make out but I am playing on PC with a mouse and keyboard so I never had to deal with the lock on. - Puzzles I found to be ok and I would not have minded a few more of them but I would not have wanted them, again, too simple for the most part even if well designed. Where I do agree with you however is on the shop and maker upgrades feeling tacked on. PS, never trust anyone that asks for pre-rendered cutscenes, they look awful, age poorly and massively increase game download size.
I tried switching hollows mid combat too, but it didn't feel very rewarding, every weapon only has a 3 hit combo and a "after whip" combo, no delays, no special variations, just the same moves... over and over and over. Personally I just dumped all my upgrades on the spear and hammer, the others felt lame.
Darksiders 2 was by far the best in the franchise... It really feels like this should have been the 2nd game or even the 1st. The amount of content in the 2nd game is way more than either of the others.
I liked the combat from DS2, but I honestly prefered how crazy you could go in the first game. You could beat enemies with a fucking stop sign, which was hilarious.
I love the game. I played all the way through and while i had my issues, i had lots of fun with it. There were alot of fixes with patches too that made it play much better. I'm playing it again after playing 2 (again) and i'm finding myself enjoying it infinitely more. While 2 felt it repeated itself over and over, and felt almost padded ouy with sheer size, 3 felt more tight and contained, with more enjoyable metroidvania dungeons and abilities that i just enjoyed more over the prince of persia esk climbing system. I also LOVE Fury for her personality. She has softness at times, but she is quick to temper much like her brother, War. And she has some solid one-liners.
I remember playing Darksiders 2 about 5-6 years ago, I had a blast with it, didn't do too much of the side stuff and extra dungeons, but listening to Shinedown's I'm alive while fighting any of the bosses in DS 2 was fucking awesome, this game looks awesome, and the story as well. It's a shame they dumbed down the gameplay.
Darksiders 3 is different. It does its best to piss me off and certain mechanics, such as the damn force hollow, not working sometimes. It does have its moments and Fury as a character had the best growth in the series in terms of her character.
Agreed with you on DS1 and DS2, couldn't really see eye to eye with you here. Most of your points I was like ??? and I'm not sure how you came to the conclusions you came to. I did play it way after you did, and after some pretty significant patches. Weapons are side-grades, not at all strict upgrades. Enhancements and upgrades feel incredibly meaningful, playing with or without them is super different. Using the i-frames from wrath attacks (yes, all of them) and choosing your weapon to change the nature of your arcane counterattack, as well as the reach, speed, and properties of other attacks made swapping on the fly super cool. Also, the hollow weapons do elemental damage and have their effects on charged attacks, and like from the second game, the perfect timing release giving you armor and a faster animation allows for some real mastery expression. For example, the flame hollow arcane counterattack rockets you like a fireball towards your attacker, making it amazing at closing in on ranged opponents after dodging a projectile. Charged attacks from the force hollow will break enemy guards. There's a lot to play around with. If you really want to like this game, give it another try. I ran apocalyptic difficulty for my second playthrough, and that felt like the right difficulty, especially once I got to the DLC content. Its generally accepted that the classic mode or whatever it's called that makes the combat play closer to Darksiders 2 is the best way to experience the game. The only negative I agreed with was the consumables being clunky and obnoxious.
Maybe they've fixed it by now. I couldn't get the game at launch due to the fact that I was unemployed and had only 27 cents to my name. I'm still going to get this game and hope that they make Darksiders IV. Wouldn't it be great if they did more of a gun-fu thing in Darksiders IV. Different attachments and ammo types for Strife's pistols and other potential guns. Then Darksiders V could do a GTAV and let you play each of the horsemen, each one feeling different from the other as they did in their respective games. I haven't gotten my hands on III yet but I have played the first two. I'd hate to sound like a Call of Duty/Madden/FIFA/Assassin's Creed fanboy, but I'm sure a lot of the problems with the game that were there at launch are fixed and are continuing to be fixed as I type out this comment. Hell, look at FFXV and Rainbow 6 Seige, both are completely different games now than what they were.
I feel that a lot of the patches and updates that the game has had since its release really tightened it up and proved to make it a more enjoyable experience. I’m playing the game post-patch and I can honestly say that I think I like it more than the first game. Darksiders 2 is still at the top
A great review, with key points well-explained as well providing an opinion on how those key points could have been improved. Really enjoying all the retrospective. Awaiting the one for Genesis, any plans to review/retrospect that one? Greetings from Sofia, Bulgaria.
Personally started out playing it on Balanced. However perhaps because i don't play Souls games, i began having trouble fairly early. And then i said screw it, and put it on Story difficulty, and then i actually started having fun. So as a whole, when i finished the game, i was somewhat content with the experience i had. I still thought it was just missing that "something" that would make it feel complete, but i still enjoyed what i got.
The saddest part about this game is that remnant from the ashes came out right after it, and was actually a great game, from a smaller development team.... maybe those guys should have been working on DS3....
it is still funny the game has taught you to do mid air combat with Envy, but that feature ends there, you wont ever use that combo ever again because there's no way you can do that aside from manually jumping or front perfect evade
I have just replayed Darksiders 3 two more times, both of which were on the Normal Difficulty, and I gotta say, it was rather....inconfedingt. The first time I played Darksiders it was terrible, enemies and bosses being able to OHKO me in a few hits, not being able to do much damage and so on, I got a lost over 20's times and it was not plessent. My second playthough however was a bot better, I only got 6 lost, reason being is that I can remember to do stuff, such as look around and get upgreades, using the Warp Pads to gain access to the area to upgread my HP and weapon damage, or use the pickups to gain currency, granted I still got bucrap a few times but at least I can remember the locations, beat all but the third boss without loseing and even knowing a trick to beat the second fight with Wrath and so on. So credit when its do, I gotting used to it. While it IS true that the game becomes easyer when you know what your doing I thing this game should have not been built this way to begging with, we didn't need a highter difficulty just for fans who want Hard Core Games like Devil May Cry or Ninja Giden and we also didn't need a Vugrim checkpoint system. That being said, while I did enjoy it the third playthough, I still think Darksiders 2 is the best game in the series, still can't wait for Darksiders 4.;)
I LOVED ds3, I beat it on the dlc difficulty first time through loving every second. It could have been better with the loot system from the second game though.
It was mostly undercooked and flawed but I'm glad I played it for the mechanics around the watery navigation. Those were cool. The story confused me, even at the end. Some twists felt too abrupt. The puzzles were cool for the most part but that one tempest puzzle with a corridor and a block was infuriating. Nothing of value would've been lost if they just cut it out. Yup, sorely needed a tally list or a map, too. Nice review, I agree for the most part. Gotta disagree with the weapon part. They aren't linear upgrades, one after another. Some are faster, some are slower but more damaging, one has a ranged counter that the others lack, one makes shielded and armored enemies easier than the rest while having more stun power, too, and so on. There's some variety. They can also have different on-hit effects. Enemies not showing their HP unless you lock onto them sucks though.
Let’s hope they won’t make a strife focused Darksiders 4. Nobody needs another disappointment. No Darksiders fan needs a first person shooter with Darksiders esthetics.
They kinda have to make a Strife centered game. That doesn't mean it's going to be an fps though. Maybe they'll make the combat similar to Bayonetta (refer to my own comment on this video). Maybe in Darksiders IV they can have Strife be in search of a weapon from the Abomination Vault. IDK. They haven't given us a full reason to completely ditch the series just yet.
@@roadside360 they kinda gave me a reason to stop hoping to find enjoyment in the series. But if they stop this dark souls bs and give us a game where we can choose which rider to play with, without gating anything behind specific riders or forcing us to switch horsemen in any way... perhaps the prospect of playing as the reaper again will bring me excitement for the series once again. After all, even something as simple as the series art direction presents a lot of potential. The art direction itself was enough to inspire me to get into art again, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was enough to draw me back in, provided it's not hindered by garbage decisions like in Darksiders 3 and Genesis. After all I've never stopped playing the first two games, though I played the first one much less than Darksiders 2.
@@morgoth9846 if they ever turn darksiders into a shooter of any kind, I'm out. Making Darksiders 3 like dark souls went badly enough with the fans of the Zelda clone fans. Imagine what the general reaction would be if they changed genres.
@@Hynotamaspoiler alert: they kind of did both. Although they did the sensible thing and treat it as a spinoff. (I'm saying this because of the updated ds2 port and DS4 which is apparently gonna be more of a mix of 2&3).
This game and genesis weren't afraid to derail the story to expiriment with new gameplay. Even if the story doesn't progress much, this game started out as more of an expiriment.
Wow...just....wow, that was a great review, everything that you said basically sums what I personally think about Darksiders 3. I think the game looks beautiful, the combat can be fun at times, the over world is interesting, I think some of the puzzles are creative and the story and characters were a nice change in pace, but this game holds back for me due to its higher difficulty, bland bosses, horrible check point systems, bland weapons, odd crafting system, confusing layout, bad camera, the overall clunky combat and awful dodge system. I wanted to like this game, I REALLY DID, but it has a lot of things that can really get under my skin. Tho you did forget a few things about Darksiders 3. 1) Higher difficulty: Darksiders 3 is known for being one of the harder games in the series, it caught many fans (myself including) of guard, now granted, I don't MIND harder games to say the least, but I think it gets too hard for my taste. 2) Bad checkpoints: Unlike previous instalments, Darksiders 3 handles checkpoints in a VERY odd manner, that guy you buy stuff from? He is your checkpoint, and let me tell ya, they can be VERY far apart, so if you haven to lose, you are sent ALL the way back to that checkpoint. 3) Long "game over" loading screens: Getting defeated is a VERY miserable time, due to how Darksiders 3 basically loads up the entire Hub World (at least that's what I think), it takes nearly 30 seconds (I tested it) just to load you back up, and considering the game's harder difficulty, that is just pure BS! Also, that was a pretty nice point you have in 15:53, I though there was something buggy about the dodge system. With that being said, it really is a shame that Darksiders 3 turn out to be like this, after that long six year hult after the awesome ness that is Darksiders 2, I was REALLY exited for Darksiders 3, but its sad to say that it was this.....dull, there ARE some aspects I like about this game, but it is hold down by too many flaws that makes it the weakest game in the Darksiders series, in my opining. Now hopefully from the ending of Darksiders 3, we might be getting a Darksiders 4 real soon, and maybe it might be an amazing game. Despite all of this, if there is anything I have to say, I'm just glad we have a Darksiders game.
I don't understand your criticism of hollows, because each has vastly different combos.Yeah stasis and force might do more damage, but they are vastly slower. I don't think you gave enough of a chance to them to actually figure out what's good.
I really liked Darksiders 2 but I vastly prefer the third, it just fits my playstyle a lot more, I really like fury's character, the story itself of the third and the combat is my favorite of the trilogy.
Well, do you come hear for validation or to hear his opinions? Lmao. He didn't say it was shit, just kind of a mixed bag. He had a lot of good to say IMO.
From the future.. replaying ALL the DS games, and 3 is the one I want to get to the most. The bugs... never had any of those issues on PC (back then) Sunday night playing DS2 (Dethinitive) fell through the entire universe barely an hour into the game.. had to reload, it didnt even kill me when i hit the ground. Now that ive got a beast mode PC /w a 4090 i dont think ill have an issue hitting a steady 60. (Or 120) in DS3. And as mich as i complained about the hard difficulty on DS3, I think i may do it again.. because i remember being mad desperate for any help i could get while playing it. The bosses could be absolutely brutal. (To the point it hurt my enjoyment in all honesty.) But thats my fault for treating it like a darksouls game and maxing the difficulty. After watching this video and about how theres no reason to care about secret bosses and loot like you get an overubundence.. yeh, sounds like hardmode is the way for the game? Either way im hyped to get back into it. Also getting back onto Genesis afyer this and hopefully getting a friend to tag along, if not ill do it solo.
Let me preface this by saying I love your channel and I think you give good critiques. That being said, there are multiple points in this video that are just factually wrong: secondary weapons not having elemental effects, the upgrade not mattering statwise, the usefulness of beating the side bosses, the hollows being statistically stronger than the previous ones, etc. Comparing it to DS2, I can see why you would be disappointed, that's the pinnacle of the franchise. But I think you give it way too much shit, specially compared to DS1. There's a line in the review where you say all you need is to spam the whip. I totally disagree with the statement. If you do this in higher difficulties, the game will kick your ass, specially with shielded enemies. So the game actually incentivizes you to constantly be switching your hollows to better deal with the situation: flame for single target DOTs, storm for dealing damage to multiple enemies at the same time, force for cc, and stasis for slows and tankiness.
Especially when you are over leveled in those areas (lv50?), Thank God I can cheese Lust easily, my wall was the Angelic Champion 😅. The patch ruined that area instead of patching a glitch, it created the difficulty spike instead. 💀
Not my favorite Darksiders. I hate the abrupt repetitive loading; even to this day with patches and updates. I suffer from walking 5 ft and being frozen place in certain locations only to be frozen again so it can load again. I know the previous games had this but this horrendously bad also combat sucks my pee through a straw. It's terrible.
I was so excited for darksiders 3 to come out. It felt like an eternity to wait for. I had to wait for a while after release due to some financial commitments. When I finally booted it up, I was so jazzed. I got about an hour or 2 in, turned it off and didn't touch it for months. I have tried to play through about 3 more times since then and I just cannot get on with it. The characters are just boring. Fury was just bland as hell. The gameplay was crap. So disappointed in this game.
It feels like you didn't give the game a chance after seeing the overwhelming negativity people threw at it in the beginning. Like you kept pushing yourself through with a certain mentality while the game needed an entirely different one and you instead of adapting, just got more and more frustrated with it. I might be mistaken but that's the feeling I got while watching. And that is why I think if you'd just play it again with a more open mind you'd like it a lot better this time. Also I think this might have had something to do with the initial negative reception because it's "Very positive" now on steam, which I wholeheartedly agree with.
Darksiders 3 is a slap on the face. Simply restricting the action on the ravaged earth and replacing Death with this annoying bitch completely killed my interest in the franchise. There’s no need for yet another game set during the same time as the first two. Giving a bit of insight with Darksiders 2 felt great. This time it feels lazy and moronic. It should be noted that I’m speaking about things that I know without playing the game. It it speaks volumes that they couldn’t even make me give the game a chance. I hate the character and I hate the setting. And the way it presents itself gives me absolutely no incentive to waste my money on this lazy cash grab.
the game does reward you for exploring, some of the best enchantments arent sold buy vulgrim they are scattered across the world my personal fav was the shade enchantment that gives you +35% arc bonus dmg also vulgrim sell a finite amount of upgradable materials and you can not upgrade your stuff with the stack he has for sale and without exploring. Also the oblivion ore which you use for upgrading your armor(you can only upgrade your armor on ng+) cant be bought from vulgrim till ng+3 you have to explore and find those red eye monster that drop it. Hell the game has 9tiers of ng+, with every consecutive playthrough you find better materials for upgrading your gear, I am currently at ng+2. It seems to me that you only played the game once and you dont really know what you are talking about. The game has souls for currency and we compare it to darksouls .. :D well darksiders 1 has souls for currency as well
Thank you for taking the time to create this trilogy of reviews on a series i absolutely love. I'm really sorry to hear that your enjoyment with Darksiders III wasn't nearly as big as it could have been. I have not played the game for myself and despite all the flaws the game has going against it, i see where the problems lie yet really want to try the game out for myself as well. I don't know how big my enjoyment with it will be, but i want to see it through until the very end for myself. In all your videos you have made darn good analyses of all games' contents, going in-depth like not many (to my knowledge) do. If i ever get around to creating proper games with a team and everything, i will make sure to keep this series of retrospectives in mind. I don't know how much that compliment is worth to you, coming from a random goober off the internet who carries an interest in Orcs, but still, thank you for taking the time and effort to create these videos. Not just for myself, but for potential fans that have discovered this awesome but underrated series thanks to you, or have yet to discover it by finding your channel. I don't have any right to speak for so many, and i fear i sound pretentious by doing so, but i guess the truth is that i want to say more than just a simple "thank you" after such a long ride. I wish you the best of luck and a lot of fun with your future of creating videos like these. I will be looking forward to them, and I have hope that Darksiders 4 will still be made. Take care, man.
I just replayed it on reckoning This is both the worst Darksider ever but also one of the worst souls-like over there As both a Darksiders and Souls I’d never recommend this game to anyone
Darksiders 3 was terrible. Its boring, it doesn't feel like a Darksiders game, Fury is not interesting at all, the hame is not fun at all, the dialogue is cringe, the weapons suck etc. Both War and Death were interesting and had very good voice actors. Their stories pulled you in and left you wanting more. Combat was actually fun and evolving. Darksiders 3 was a poor attempt at a Souls/Darksiders game and it failed. Hopefully they dont make that mistake again. They need to act like 3 never existed and pull inspiration from 1 and 2.
They won't ignore DS3, at least not story wise, gameplay wise yeah I think and hope they don't stick with DS3 mechanics. I think since Strife is a Horseman with guns, his gameplay will be a mixture of hack and slash with gun play. I remember DS1 had a bit of shooting elements so they'll most likely flesh that out in the new game
It's 2023 & I have played all 3 on PC, honestly ............ *Darksiders Warmastered* *Darksiders 3* *Darksiders 2 Deathinitive* Darksiders 2 Deathinitive is a horrible just horrible port to PC.
man , watching this game on youtube as a film is way better than actually playing it , and that is the worst thing a game could become , its just sad because the story in itself is SO GOOD!
NGL if you dont like certain fighting mechanics that require timing and forethought thats just a skill issue idc if this video is 4 years old this applies to all games new and old
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Because Darksiders 3's reception has been all over the place, I'm curious to hear what everyone thinks of the game. Feel free to comment how you felt about it!
I managed to get this for free this month through my PS Plus membership, so I can't really complain. The texture pop-in is still there, the framerate is still around 30 FPS compared to what looked like 60 FPS from the last two (Note: I've never played them), but I didn't have any crashes, or any bugs that you've experienced, and on top of that, they've added a few things since launch apparently. There's a New Game + mode, but it doesn't quite work as I expected it to. Most games offering this mode will save your game's final progress after exiting the credits. This game doesn't, so if you beat the game, but choose to hold off on selecting a new difficulty for NG+, you'll have to continue right before the final boss again. When you select a difficulty, the game goes back to the Title and Menu screens. From there, selecting Continue will start NG+. All of your items, your souls, your skill points, and your enhancements are carried over. Your hollows are actually locked again, to my own surprise, and that is something I appreciate because they were, in a way, essential to the game's progression. However, the configuration of your enhancements remain the same, so you know which weapons you left them on. Honestly for this part, I wish God of War's NG+ worked the same way with its second main weapon. The items you find throughout the world are pretty much the same, though I haven't gotten far to see if any of them have changed. What has changed are the addition of new enemies scattered throughout the world, with new items they drop for further enhancements to your weapons, and now your armor. There is also the addition of a "Classic" battle mode that is more in line with the first two games. Items are instantly used, with no waiting through an animation of Fury using them, and your own attacks can be interrupted if you need to dodge. At the time of writing this, I've only reached Vulgrim the first time in my second playthrough, so I don't know if anything else is different, and I've already pretty much written an essay, so I'm going to stop it right here. As a final note to you, Liam, look up Amid Evil when you get the chance, and maybe also take a look at the Descent game series from Interplay. I didn't grow up playing Doom or Quake, so Descent was my childhood 3D gaming experience.
It's cool and it's very difficult even on balanced eish i can imagine it on apocalyptic but i love the games and characters with 1 or 2 being my favourite
I'm glad I got it through gamepass and didn't pay anything xD
I can't see a game with Strife, that isn't FPS...
But even that isn't a bad thing...
If you follow Doom Eternal formula, add some Ghostrunner /Mirrors Edge in the mix, you cold have a fkg awesome game.
Technical Failure. It’s game design that fails to take into account the limitations of the hardware it’s going to run on. It forgot it’s a game. It forgot the player. It forgot… It was supposed to be… Darksiders.
Whitelight's latest essay is a must-watch for any Darksiders fans out there,or any other videogame fans in general.
This video is also quite well made.
Thanks for sharing.Happy NY.
He has no essay about darksiders 1 or 3, only 2... what are you talking about ?
I played this game on release. After I passed it the first time, I had fun, but definitely thought it to be the weakest of the series. However, I played it a second time after a few patches and DLC and honestly, the introduction of Classic mode, made the game alot more fun. While the game is more simple in it's mechanics, I really liked it. And I would like to add that the side weapon's elemental properties apply not only to dodges, but to their charge attacks. I melted most bosses, literally with a high arcane and flame hollow. If you have not yet, revisit the game and purchase the Keepers of the Void dlc. It brought new life to the game and made it, for me at least, stand shoulder to shoulder with the other games.
Good video overall. I liked D3 enough to Platinum it, but it's not a title I'll ever return to. It has gotten a lot better with patches, particularly the i-frames which I bitched about on Reddit for some time. But the devs listened and improved on a lot of the features. They also brought back Classic mode, meaning the way things were in D2. That is, healing is instant instead of having an animation, and dodging i-frames are identical to D2. I actually really liked exploration despite the vistas feeling uninspired. I'm looking forward to seeing what they can do with D4.
The camera really ruined this game for me..
I liked the feeling of the second one more.
Side note: This game is nothing like Dark Souls.. I don’t know why it would even be mentioned.
The souls system is identical to Dark Souls, right down to the soul pickups scattered around the world. The only major difference is how much less varied your stats are.
Nothing like Dark Souls? How about every single enemy being able to kill you with a small amount of hits, having to level up through currency, no actual checkpoints (only starting at Vulgrim spawn points), losing your currency when you die, and a bad camera? All very Dark Souls like. Luckily this game has a legit good combat system with combos and aerial moves, actual platforming, and a character that moves like they should in an action game. The only problem is that they ripped from From Software too liberally. If they wanted to borrow things, fine. But did they really have to use currency for leveling up, losing it at death, and having to wait for an annoying animation when healing? I understand that some of this has been fixed with patching, but it still annoys me that the game took so much needlessly from From Software. Everyone is doing that these days (like that disappointing and shameless new God of War) and I don't understand why. From Software has made great games, but they are overrated as hell and their style isn't even that remarkable. If anything, I think Darksiders would have benefitted taking more from Ninja Gaiden, Devil May Cry, and Yakuza. Those games have legitimately amazing combat systems that never get old while SoulsBorne games get redundant and played out. The best SoulsBorne style game I've played through is Nioh, and that's not even From Software. Team Ninja took the formula and made it WAY better funny enough. I'm just sick of everything having to be like Dark Souls and Bloodborne when games like Devil May Cry and Ninja Gaiden have much better combat systems.
It's pretty darn similar to Dark Souls to be quite honest. There's a lot of striking similarities between the two. Obviously it's not an actual Souls game BUT it is close enough that you could easily consider a Souls game.
Sekiro Borne soulsborne fans will compare everything to dark souls, they’re just that insane
@@SefniAsheforr the platforming was gutted compared to the first 2.
If War, a warhammer40k space marine wielding an iron fucking surfboard can wallrun and have an actual good fucking jump, why can't Fury?
My biggest problem with this game was the platforming being so barebones and basic.
1 was the rough start, but still a start. 2 was almost perfect. 3 is proof that just because something is popular doesn’t mean it will work.
Darksiders 3 is marvelous. Sure, it's different from DS1 and DS2, but it's still amazing.
Great combat, great monster and world design, great voice acting and I really like the story. Dramatically streamlined upgrade system is unfortunate but it works.
As for story being smaller scale, kinda expected after the excessive excess of Darksiders 2. They had to tone it down dramatically, make the overall scope even smaller than Darksiders 1 in order to be absolute sure they could even make a profit.
hmmm... I didn't have any problems with the combat system or managing multiple enemies, but maybe that's because I treated it as kind of a more action-focused Dark Souls and not a more punishing Darksiders. And since I didn't really like the combat systems of the first two games, I really enjoyed this game.
Also, I mostly used the fire hollow throughout the game and really made use of the upgrades.
You said you'd follow this series wherever it goes next but you didn't make a video on Darksiders Genesis.
Indeed, I just found that out and I'm wondering why Liam has not done that yet. Now seems like a good time to do so, either that or he has a good reason of why he hasn't looked at it yet.
"Darksiders 3 packs more intelligent writing into its overall simple narrative. "
Did... Did we play the same game?
AGREED
Dark siders genesis RETROSPECTIVE WHEN
Okay, I have finally finished the game.
I had no bugs whatsoever (PC) in world load times, no framedrops etc. the game looks great, I guess they fucked up the PS4 version.
I disagree strongly about the newer weapons making the older ones obsolete. I used the flame hollow till the end, I used it even more than the whip. That could be because I actually had fun looking around for relics and adamantine. When you use the upgradesystem consistently you can use whatever weapon you want.
The enchantments are awesome, I infused my flame weapon with lifesteal, the whip with lurcher generation upon destroying stuff and the crossblade with the i-Frames.
I agree on the story, it is great. The twist hit me hard! And even harder when I realised that Lust wanted to give fury the location of envy (who was supposedly alreadey in captivity). When Lust said that I was like "HA! You idiot I already got her!" ... seems like I am the idiot.
I disliked Fury in the beginning, she was annoying to listen to, but the more sins I killed, the better I liked her character.
(I only want to attack your thesis, not you as a person, I hope I wrote this well enough for it to be clear)
Also: You deserve more viewers, your content is awesome and I'd back you on patreon if I had the money.
Stay safe,
Lukas
I was gonna write a similar response, but it seems i do not have to. The only thing i would change from what you said is that i was intrigued by Fury since the begining, like Liam. I agree with you Lukas.
Honestly, they fucked up the XB1 version of the game too. I had the glitch of falling through the floor maybe once or twice? They load times and the frame rate drops where the game basically chugs while loading resources. Maybe it was because I have the original XB1 and an XB1X, maybe having the XB1X would reduce the frame drop amount.
@@React2Quick idk there are vastly better looking games than this that don't pause you ever 5 feet to load
@@everinghall8622 I don't disagree. Darksiders 3 was abyssal in performance. They did better with Darksiders Genesis. 3 visually looks good for the most part but it chugs like crazy.
It's 2024 right now and Darksiders III is my favorite of the series.
Curious to see if you'll do a retrospective of Darksiders Genesis! Great vid!
Enjoyed the video, I really loved Darksiders 3 and find it to be my favourite of the 3 games. I don't really get your criticisms of the combat and level design (hollow switching is the coolest part of the combat idk why you're abandoning old hollows for the base damage stats) but I can see if you aren't investing in enhancements and weapon upgrades then exploration would feel unrewarding. Wouldn't it be more of an issue with enemy scaling over the systems themselves though? The game isn't scaling enemies up in difficulty enough to encourage using the higher level combat techniques, which require you to invest in enhancements and upgrades to be effective? idk either way I didn't really encounter the issues you presented but I think it still is indicative that the game doesn't quite prop its own systems up enough.
Either way I'm glad Darksiders is back and I'm relieved I enjoyed 3 as much as I did. It's a shame you didn't quite get the same experience from it.
I wonder what difficulty he was on? I personally loved the combat in the game after I received my first hollow, but I was on hard. I needed to upgrade my gear and level up if I wanted to survive.
I was personally really dissapointed with this game. I think it was awesome gameplay wise, if it wasn't I wouldn't have platinumed it - but I don't really like the souls mechanics, it just felt like a step backwards after the improvements second game did and I just really liked coming up with different builds in the second Darksiders and tailoring a playstyle that suited me best (even though the items are RNG based it's not that hard to focus on specific builds) - here you have just souls and shards - it never felt rewarding to loot anything here to me, also some of the design elements and puzzles were just outright frustrating - especially that fucking tornade in The Scar.
And the story is just... So bad in my opinion. It's well acted and some encaounters and moments are good, but it picks to something really interesting in the last two boss fights - which is like last 20 minutes of the game... The character development of Fury is just not enough for me, when the rest is just giant fetch quest that does nothing for wordbuilding and enhancing the overall lore...
I played on hard and apocalyptic and I would say that upgrading your weapons, leveling and finding the right enhancements for your playstyle is crucial if you want to make it. While some enhancements are mediocre at best, some fully upgraded are outright broken - like the Havoc power one or the one that scales your damage to the amount of souls you're carrying...
It's hard to be objective here, because Darksiders 2 was so much better in everything imho that even though Darsiders 3 is like 6-7/10 game I always feel gutted when I think about what it could've been if it build up on the second game...
The problem I had was the combat never really evolved, each weapon used the same inputs, and you never really unlocked new combos, I was looking forward to switching forms dmc style mid combo to invent new combos.
the fire one sucked, I only used lightning and force.
That wrath attacks were really lame and lackluster.
The platforming was clunky and ugly compared to the first 2, Ieam, they completely dropped the wallrunning and item /gadget based progression.
The armor upgrades were just pallete swaps, boring.
They removed EXECUTIONS, in the game that had the most potential for cool executions.
On console the game has to load for 20 seconds, sometimes within 10 seconds of eachother.
Exploration gave nothing of value, I just bought upgrades from volgrim.
I've never been so dissapointed in a game.
@@everinghall8622 the flame hollow had nice attack speed which was more in depth with her name FURY
One more thing we need the four horseman on the same screen
Darksiders is like the Gorillaz of gaming. Never consistently sticking with a particular genre
Darksiders 3 is my favorite game in the series
I can understand why people have such mixed feelings about Darksiders 3, but it's currently my favourite of the series so far, and I hope the remaining two games get made. Yes, two. I believe the plan was to have four games each focusing on one horseman, then the final fifth game which would feature all four. My personal hope is that they make 4 a Gears of War style cover-based shooter, because that would be so wonderfully different from the others.
I don't know if using a cover system is the best idea for Strife, considering we see him jumping off of another enemy and blasting demons at the end of DS3. I imagine a Max Payne-esque experience for DS4. Something that feels free-form and interesting. I feel like a cover system would restrict Strife's movement way too much. Plus, cover systems aren't always implemented well, so that worries me to think about. Idk lol.
But yeah, a fifth game with all four horsemen would be awesome. I think that was Vigil's original concept for Darksiders. Co-op action game with the four horsemen of the apocalypse. At least, that's what I remember from Gameumentary's doc on the series.
Almost each time you complained about something I just found myself thinking "That's what I like about it.." - When it comes to exploration for loot, I found Darksiders 1/2 which were already too easy got even more so if you spent even a little of your time exploring. - I found the combos fairly interesting to be fair, sure it's no DMC5 but it gave options especially when rapidly switching holos and on the harder difficulties the game had a level of tension I have rarely experienced in one of these kinda games. - Personally I never found the bosses to feel as unfair as you make out but I am playing on PC with a mouse and keyboard so I never had to deal with the lock on. - Puzzles I found to be ok and I would not have minded a few more of them but I would not have wanted them, again, too simple for the most part even if well designed. Where I do agree with you however is on the shop and maker upgrades feeling tacked on.
PS, never trust anyone that asks for pre-rendered cutscenes, they look awful, age poorly and massively increase game download size.
I tried switching hollows mid combat too, but it didn't feel very rewarding, every weapon only has a 3 hit combo and a "after whip" combo, no delays, no special variations, just the same moves... over and over and over.
Personally I just dumped all my upgrades on the spear and hammer, the others felt lame.
Darksiders 2 was by far the best in the franchise... It really feels like this should have been the 2nd game or even the 1st. The amount of content in the 2nd game is way more than either of the others.
I liked the combat from DS2, but I honestly prefered how crazy you could go in the first game. You could beat enemies with a fucking stop sign, which was hilarious.
I love the game. I played all the way through and while i had my issues, i had lots of fun with it. There were alot of fixes with patches too that made it play much better. I'm playing it again after playing 2 (again) and i'm finding myself enjoying it infinitely more. While 2 felt it repeated itself over and over, and felt almost padded ouy with sheer size, 3 felt more tight and contained, with more enjoyable metroidvania dungeons and abilities that i just enjoyed more over the prince of persia esk climbing system. I also LOVE Fury for her personality. She has softness at times, but she is quick to temper much like her brother, War. And she has some solid one-liners.
I remember playing Darksiders 2 about 5-6 years ago, I had a blast with it, didn't do too much of the side stuff and extra dungeons, but listening to Shinedown's I'm alive while fighting any of the bosses in DS 2 was fucking awesome, this game looks awesome, and the story as well. It's a shame they dumbed down the gameplay.
Lol I listened to the first Shinedown album while going throught the 4th dungeon in Darksiders 2. How small the world is.
Great video can't wait for genesis next.
Darksiders 3 is different. It does its best to piss me off and certain mechanics, such as the damn force hollow, not working sometimes. It does have its moments and Fury as a character had the best growth in the series in terms of her character.
Agreed with you on DS1 and DS2, couldn't really see eye to eye with you here. Most of your points I was like ??? and I'm not sure how you came to the conclusions you came to.
I did play it way after you did, and after some pretty significant patches. Weapons are side-grades, not at all strict upgrades. Enhancements and upgrades feel incredibly meaningful, playing with or without them is super different. Using the i-frames from wrath attacks (yes, all of them) and choosing your weapon to change the nature of your arcane counterattack, as well as the reach, speed, and properties of other attacks made swapping on the fly super cool. Also, the hollow weapons do elemental damage and have their effects on charged attacks, and like from the second game, the perfect timing release giving you armor and a faster animation allows for some real mastery expression. For example, the flame hollow arcane counterattack rockets you like a fireball towards your attacker, making it amazing at closing in on ranged opponents after dodging a projectile. Charged attacks from the force hollow will break enemy guards. There's a lot to play around with.
If you really want to like this game, give it another try. I ran apocalyptic difficulty for my second playthrough, and that felt like the right difficulty, especially once I got to the DLC content. Its generally accepted that the classic mode or whatever it's called that makes the combat play closer to Darksiders 2 is the best way to experience the game.
The only negative I agreed with was the consumables being clunky and obnoxious.
Lol. I was watching this on my PS4 and I thought the RUclips app had crash.
Maybe they've fixed it by now. I couldn't get the game at launch due to the fact that I was unemployed and had only 27 cents to my name. I'm still going to get this game and hope that they make Darksiders IV. Wouldn't it be great if they did more of a gun-fu thing in Darksiders IV. Different attachments and ammo types for Strife's pistols and other potential guns. Then Darksiders V could do a GTAV and let you play each of the horsemen, each one feeling different from the other as they did in their respective games. I haven't gotten my hands on III yet but I have played the first two. I'd hate to sound like a Call of Duty/Madden/FIFA/Assassin's Creed fanboy, but I'm sure a lot of the problems with the game that were there at launch are fixed and are continuing to be fixed as I type out this comment. Hell, look at FFXV and Rainbow 6 Seige, both are completely different games now than what they were.
I feel that a lot of the patches and updates that the game has had since its release really tightened it up and proved to make it a more enjoyable experience. I’m playing the game post-patch and I can honestly say that I think I like it more than the first game. Darksiders 2 is still at the top
A great review, with key points well-explained as well providing an opinion on how those key points could have been improved. Really enjoying all the retrospective.
Awaiting the one for Genesis, any plans to review/retrospect that one?
Greetings from Sofia, Bulgaria.
Will you do a Darksiders Genesis video?
Was this improved on the Nintendo Switch release three years later in 2021?
Personally started out playing it on Balanced. However perhaps because i don't play Souls games, i began having trouble fairly early. And then i said screw it, and put it on Story difficulty, and then i actually started having fun.
So as a whole, when i finished the game, i was somewhat content with the experience i had. I still thought it was just missing that "something" that would make it feel complete, but i still enjoyed what i got.
That fucking part where the game crash got me cause I was watching on my ps4 and thought youtube just freaked out lol
1:30 oh ok. so this is just the frame rate that the game was recorded in... this'll be fun to watch.
The sequel no one saw coming
Darksiders 3 was a bit of a let down. My biggest gripe is the insanely long load screens and constant freezing...the first two games were way better.
I haven't experienced crashes on Xbox, but there is still lots of pop in and loading
The saddest part about this game is that remnant from the ashes came out right after it, and was actually a great game, from a smaller development team.... maybe those guys should have been working on DS3....
But that was also by Gunfire games
Unpopular Opinion: I think this game is better than the first.
Darksiders 2 is still the best one for me.
The dodging counter attack thing never happened to me , maybe PS4 version sucks
Did you cover Darksiders Genesis?
That’s why I spammed Havoc Form on the Lust encounter.
it is still funny the game has taught you to do mid air combat with Envy, but that feature ends there, you wont ever use that combo ever again because there's no way you can do that aside from manually jumping or front perfect evade
I have just replayed Darksiders 3 two more times, both of which were on the Normal Difficulty, and I gotta say, it was rather....inconfedingt.
The first time I played Darksiders it was terrible, enemies and bosses being able to OHKO me in a few hits, not being able to do much damage and so on, I got a lost over 20's times and it was not plessent.
My second playthough however was a bot better, I only got 6 lost, reason being is that I can remember to do stuff, such as look around and get upgreades, using the Warp Pads to gain access to the area to upgread my HP and weapon damage, or use the pickups to gain currency, granted I still got bucrap a few times but at least I can remember the locations, beat all but the third boss without loseing and even knowing a trick to beat the second fight with Wrath and so on. So credit when its do, I gotting used to it.
While it IS true that the game becomes easyer when you know what your doing I thing this game should have not been built this way to begging with, we didn't need a highter difficulty just for fans who want Hard Core Games like Devil May Cry or Ninja Giden and we also didn't need a Vugrim checkpoint system.
That being said, while I did enjoy it the third playthough, I still think Darksiders 2 is the best game in the series, still can't wait for Darksiders 4.;)
I LOVED ds3, I beat it on the dlc difficulty first time through loving every second. It could have been better with the loot system from the second game though.
It was mostly undercooked and flawed but I'm glad I played it for the mechanics around the watery navigation. Those were cool.
The story confused me, even at the end. Some twists felt too abrupt. The puzzles were cool for the most part but that one tempest puzzle with a corridor and a block was infuriating. Nothing of value would've been lost if they just cut it out. Yup, sorely needed a tally list or a map, too.
Nice review, I agree for the most part.
Gotta disagree with the weapon part. They aren't linear upgrades, one after another. Some are faster, some are slower but more damaging, one has a ranged counter that the others lack, one makes shielded and armored enemies easier than the rest while having more stun power, too, and so on. There's some variety. They can also have different on-hit effects.
Enemies not showing their HP unless you lock onto them sucks though.
Did you play Genesis? Also I heavily recommend Remnant: From The Ashes, from Gunfire games too.
The i frames problem sou ds a lot like the Dark souls 2 ADP problem.
Let’s hope they won’t make a strife focused Darksiders 4. Nobody needs another disappointment. No Darksiders fan needs a first person shooter with Darksiders esthetics.
They kinda have to make a Strife centered game. That doesn't mean it's going to be an fps though. Maybe they'll make the combat similar to Bayonetta (refer to my own comment on this video). Maybe in Darksiders IV they can have Strife be in search of a weapon from the Abomination Vault. IDK. They haven't given us a full reason to completely ditch the series just yet.
It can be a TPS
Or like Remnant
@@roadside360 they kinda gave me a reason to stop hoping to find enjoyment in the series. But if they stop this dark souls bs and give us a game where we can choose which rider to play with, without gating anything behind specific riders or forcing us to switch horsemen in any way... perhaps the prospect of playing as the reaper again will bring me excitement for the series once again. After all, even something as simple as the series art direction presents a lot of potential. The art direction itself was enough to inspire me to get into art again, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was enough to draw me back in, provided it's not hindered by garbage decisions like in Darksiders 3 and Genesis. After all I've never stopped playing the first two games, though I played the first one much less than Darksiders 2.
@@morgoth9846 if they ever turn darksiders into a shooter of any kind, I'm out. Making Darksiders 3 like dark souls went badly enough with the fans of the Zelda clone fans. Imagine what the general reaction would be if they changed genres.
@@Hynotamaspoiler alert: they kind of did both.
Although they did the sensible thing and treat it as a spinoff.
(I'm saying this because of the updated ds2 port and DS4 which is apparently gonna be more of a mix of 2&3).
This game and genesis weren't afraid to derail the story to expiriment with new gameplay. Even if the story doesn't progress much, this game started out as more of an expiriment.
As I'm watching your review of Darksiders 3: Dark Souls Edition... I'm curious if you've seen the new teaser trailer for a new Darksiders?
Wow...just....wow, that was a great review, everything that you said basically sums what I personally think about Darksiders 3.
I think the game looks beautiful, the combat can be fun at times, the over world is interesting, I think some of the puzzles are creative and the story and characters were a nice change in pace, but this game holds back for me due to its higher difficulty, bland bosses, horrible check point systems, bland weapons, odd crafting system, confusing layout, bad camera, the overall clunky combat and awful dodge system. I wanted to like this game, I REALLY DID, but it has a lot of things that can really get under my skin.
Tho you did forget a few things about Darksiders 3.
1) Higher difficulty: Darksiders 3 is known for being one of the harder games in the series, it caught many fans (myself including) of guard, now granted, I don't MIND harder games to say the least, but I think it gets too hard for my taste.
2) Bad checkpoints: Unlike previous instalments, Darksiders 3 handles checkpoints in a VERY odd manner, that guy you buy stuff from? He is your checkpoint, and let me tell ya, they can be VERY far apart, so if you haven to lose, you are sent ALL the way back to that checkpoint.
3) Long "game over" loading screens: Getting defeated is a VERY miserable time, due to how Darksiders 3 basically loads up the entire Hub World (at least that's what I think), it takes nearly 30 seconds (I tested it) just to load you back up, and considering the game's harder difficulty, that is just pure BS!
Also, that was a pretty nice point you have in 15:53, I though there was something buggy about the dodge system.
With that being said, it really is a shame that Darksiders 3 turn out to be like this, after that long six year hult after the awesome ness that is Darksiders 2, I was REALLY exited for Darksiders 3, but its sad to say that it was this.....dull, there ARE some aspects I like about this game, but it is hold down by too many flaws that makes it the weakest game in the Darksiders series, in my opining.
Now hopefully from the ending of Darksiders 3, we might be getting a Darksiders 4 real soon, and maybe it might be an amazing game.
Despite all of this, if there is anything I have to say, I'm just glad we have a Darksiders game.
This man put in no midrolls. Respect, but also worry for you financially
Before I watch this, are there any major spoilers from the story of the game? I'm currently at the Scar section of the game hunting Wrath.
No major spoilers that I can tell but there's some spoilers for sure.
@@React2Quick Bruh they just spoiled like the biggest twist of the game. @AstroManX100 This might be too late but MAJOR MAJOR spoilers ahead.
I don't understand your criticism of hollows, because each has vastly different combos.Yeah stasis and force might do more damage, but they are vastly slower. I don't think you gave enough of a chance to them to actually figure out what's good.
Dodging still seems like bayonetta dodging, especially with that little cartwheel
I really liked Darksiders 2 but I vastly prefer the third, it just fits my playstyle a lot more, I really like fury's character, the story itself of the third and the combat is my favorite of the trilogy.
I'm... disappointed. After your first two reviews, I didn't expect to disagree on nearly every thing you said.
I felt the same way
Well, do you come hear for validation or to hear his opinions? Lmao.
He didn't say it was shit, just kind of a mixed bag. He had a lot of good to say IMO.
@@Exigentable here*
From the future..
replaying ALL the DS games, and 3 is the one I want to get to the most.
The bugs... never had any of those issues on PC (back then)
Sunday night playing DS2 (Dethinitive) fell through the entire universe barely an hour into the game.. had to reload, it didnt even kill me when i hit the ground.
Now that ive got a beast mode PC /w a 4090 i dont think ill have an issue hitting a steady 60. (Or 120) in DS3. And as mich as i complained about the hard difficulty on DS3, I think i may do it again.. because i remember being mad desperate for any help i could get while playing it. The bosses could be absolutely brutal. (To the point it hurt my enjoyment in all honesty.) But thats my fault for treating it like a darksouls game and maxing the difficulty.
After watching this video and about how theres no reason to care about secret bosses and loot like you get an overubundence.. yeh, sounds like hardmode is the way for the game?
Either way im hyped to get back into it. Also getting back onto Genesis afyer this and hopefully getting a friend to tag along, if not ill do it solo.
@@Exigentablehe can still disagree with it lol
He's playing on easy no wonder he didn't get a challenge lmfao 🤣
Let me preface this by saying I love your channel and I think you give good critiques. That being said, there are multiple points in this video that are just factually wrong: secondary weapons not having elemental effects, the upgrade not mattering statwise, the usefulness of beating the side bosses, the hollows being statistically stronger than the previous ones, etc. Comparing it to DS2, I can see why you would be disappointed, that's the pinnacle of the franchise. But I think you give it way too much shit, specially compared to DS1. There's a line in the review where you say all you need is to spam the whip. I totally disagree with the statement. If you do this in higher difficulties, the game will kick your ass, specially with shielded enemies. So the game actually incentivizes you to constantly be switching your hollows to better deal with the situation: flame for single target DOTs, storm for dealing damage to multiple enemies at the same time, force for cc, and stasis for slows and tankiness.
Oh my god thank you I’ve been looking for tips for combat that not get good at dodging
Also got any tips for when your in a group with strong and weak enemies?
3 years to late but I want to say that I got to the swamp level and said “fuck no”
Especially when you are over leveled in those areas (lv50?), Thank God I can cheese Lust easily, my wall was the Angelic Champion 😅.
The patch ruined that area instead of patching a glitch, it created the difficulty spike instead. 💀
I personally like 2 the best 3 just didn't click with me. Pluse deaths voice actor was just god tear
Not my favorite Darksiders. I hate the abrupt repetitive loading; even to this day with patches and updates. I suffer from walking 5 ft and being frozen place in certain locations only to be frozen again so it can load again. I know the previous games had this but this horrendously bad also combat sucks my pee through a straw. It's terrible.
I'm new and I really like all 3 of them, war is my favorite but all 3 games are amazing for their own reasons, im playing them now.
Did you forget that strife exists? So technically the series is NOT over.
I was so excited for darksiders 3 to come out. It felt like an eternity to wait for. I had to wait for a while after release due to some financial commitments. When I finally booted it up, I was so jazzed. I got about an hour or 2 in, turned it off and didn't touch it for months. I have tried to play through about 3 more times since then and I just cannot get on with it. The characters are just boring. Fury was just bland as hell. The gameplay was crap. So disappointed in this game.
It feels like you didn't give the game a chance after seeing the overwhelming negativity people threw at it in the beginning. Like you kept pushing yourself through with a certain mentality while the game needed an entirely different one and you instead of adapting, just got more and more frustrated with it. I might be mistaken but that's the feeling I got while watching. And that is why I think if you'd just play it again with a more open mind you'd like it a lot better this time. Also I think this might have had something to do with the initial negative reception because it's "Very positive" now on steam, which I wholeheartedly agree with.
Darksiders 3 is a slap on the face. Simply restricting the action on the ravaged earth and replacing Death with this annoying bitch completely killed my interest in the franchise. There’s no need for yet another game set during the same time as the first two. Giving a bit of insight with Darksiders 2 felt great. This time it feels lazy and moronic. It should be noted that I’m speaking about things that I know without playing the game. It it speaks volumes that they couldn’t even make me give the game a chance. I hate the character and I hate the setting. And the way it presents itself gives me absolutely no incentive to waste my money on this lazy cash grab.
And fury was supposed to be the sorceress of the horsemen, instead she's just a worse and weaker fighter with some boring magic...
Should review this post classic patch
honestly, I think classic patch makes it a worse game but I understand why people didn't like the original concept. I liked it, though
the game does reward you for exploring, some of the best enchantments arent sold buy vulgrim they are scattered across the world my personal fav was the shade enchantment that gives you +35% arc bonus dmg also vulgrim sell a finite amount of upgradable materials and you can not upgrade your stuff with the stack he has for sale and without exploring. Also the oblivion ore which you use for upgrading your armor(you can only upgrade your armor on ng+) cant be bought from vulgrim till ng+3 you have to explore and find those red eye monster that drop it. Hell the game has 9tiers of ng+, with every consecutive playthrough you find better materials for upgrading your gear, I am currently at ng+2. It seems to me that you only played the game once and you dont really know what you are talking about.
The game has souls for currency and we compare it to darksouls .. :D well darksiders 1 has souls for currency as well
Im pretty sure day 1 release doesnt have ng+
Hey Liam, will you make a video on Darksiders Genesis?
16:30 THIS. That is the sole reason I can't stand this game.
Yeah, thank god they fixed that bit.
Fixed it now
I played the game a couple months ago and no, the buggy shit has not been fixed
Game made me furious... I am Fury
I never noticed any music until you just mentioned it now
At least you gave it a fair shot
I haven't play it but i would say to have 2 great games before this and the only low is an ok i would say that's a pretty good track record.
Thank you for taking the time to create this trilogy of reviews on a series i absolutely love.
I'm really sorry to hear that your enjoyment with Darksiders III wasn't nearly as big as it could have been. I have not played the game for myself and despite all the flaws the game has going against it, i see where the problems lie yet really want to try the game out for myself as well. I don't know how big my enjoyment with it will be, but i want to see it through until the very end for myself.
In all your videos you have made darn good analyses of all games' contents, going in-depth like not many (to my knowledge) do. If i ever get around to creating proper games with a team and everything, i will make sure to keep this series of retrospectives in mind. I don't know how much that compliment is worth to you, coming from a random goober off the internet who carries an interest in Orcs, but still, thank you for taking the time and effort to create these videos. Not just for myself, but for potential fans that have discovered this awesome but underrated series thanks to you, or have yet to discover it by finding your channel. I don't have any right to speak for so many, and i fear i sound pretentious by doing so, but i guess the truth is that i want to say more than just a simple "thank you" after such a long ride.
I wish you the best of luck and a lot of fun with your future of creating videos like these. I will be looking forward to them, and I have hope that Darksiders 4 will still be made.
Take care, man.
You make amazing content! You should do a collab with Lambhoot!
ALGOTRITHMMMMM
Darksiders 3 is my favourite now.
Oh so it's like Dark Souls 2
I just replayed it on reckoning
This is both the worst Darksider ever but also one of the worst souls-like over there
As both a Darksiders and Souls I’d never recommend this game to anyone
20:52 lmaooooo
Darksiders 3 was terrible. Its boring, it doesn't feel like a Darksiders game, Fury is not interesting at all, the hame is not fun at all, the dialogue is cringe, the weapons suck etc. Both War and Death were interesting and had very good voice actors. Their stories pulled you in and left you wanting more. Combat was actually fun and evolving. Darksiders 3 was a poor attempt at a Souls/Darksiders game and it failed. Hopefully they dont make that mistake again. They need to act like 3 never existed and pull inspiration from 1 and 2.
They won't ignore DS3, at least not story wise, gameplay wise yeah I think and hope they don't stick with DS3 mechanics.
I think since Strife is a Horseman with guns, his gameplay will be a mixture of hack and slash with gun play. I remember DS1 had a bit of shooting elements so they'll most likely flesh that out in the new game
Cope and seethe lol
@@DatPRGuy2017didn't they already do a strife top down shooter?
@@icravedeath.1200 It was a co-op game with War as the second playable character (his gameplay was pretty much similar to his solo game)
@@DatPRGuy2017 oh ok
I love your Darksiders videos,but Fury and story in this game are lowest point. Engame acting and storytelling are like Spanish soup opera.
finally
It's 2023 & I have played all 3 on PC, honestly ............
*Darksiders Warmastered*
*Darksiders 3*
*Darksiders 2 Deathinitive*
Darksiders 2 Deathinitive is a horrible just horrible port to PC.
I have the OG Darksiders 2 on PC and it runs very smoothly for me
Didn't know the remaster was that bad
@@DatPRGuy2017it's not on consoles but the pc port was utter trash.
man , watching this game on youtube as a film is way better than actually playing it , and that is the worst thing a game could become , its just sad because the story in itself is SO GOOD!
Ur average
NGL if you dont like certain fighting mechanics that require timing and forethought thats just a skill issue idc if this video is 4 years old this applies to all games new and old
I'm prety sure you're just bad.
Wow, the ironically stinky series now has an ACTUAL stinky game. Neat.
Bad take