How Injustice Failed - Let Me Explain
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Let Me Explain my thoughts on DC's newest animated feature on INJUSTICE
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INJUSTICE (2021):
DIRECTOR: Matt Peters
WRITERS: Ernie Altbacker, Tom Taylor and Ian Rodgers (Graphic Novel)
CAST: Justin Hartley, Anson Mount, Laura Bailey, Zach Callison, Brandon Michael Hall, Edwin Hodge, Oliver Hudson, Gillian Jacobs, Derek Phillips, Kevin Pollak, Anika Noni Rose, Reid Scott, Janet Varney
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“They do this cool thing where he doesn’t show up at all”-I’m weak
I still don’t get how Harley Quinn who helped murdered a million people but still not imprisoned or killed by Superman for being part of Lois lane murder.
Batman protected her and she ended up turning a new leaf including convincing her alternate self to leave that universes joker.
@@mbeatz17 she didn't deserve that redemption. Injustice was a mess anyway.
she gets a bit more development in the comics. it goes something like : she actually did deeply regret what happens to lois and metropolis her thoughts were something like "superman would save the day like always" then is originally hidden away instead of imprisoned or tried because well green arrow assumed that superman would wanna use his other hand, she saves multiple people including helping out with rescuing some of the heroes kids including her own daughter, at one point she's even willing to face punishment for her crimes when everythings done with.. while it's not really full on redeeming and she doesnt really turn "hero",(does joke about being a robin though lol) you can tell she's trying.. and by the end she's considered maybe not a leaguer but an ally..
in this one a lot less so.. with a lot of the bigger plot points and arcs cut or changed i'm not sure why they wouldnt have used a different character for harleys' parts and just have her be captured and killed early on with joker, other than how popular harley is these days... even though they axed flash to avoid his arc, changed wonder woman to basically be neutral or the opposite of comic her, took out ma kent, then killed pa kent, and more but then kept harley and random chunks of her plot but none of the depth...
i enjoyed the movie myself but i feel like it wasnt really made to adapt the comics and instead just to try and rush out a dark dc movie with some of the popular characters in it.
It genuinely annoyed me that green arrow hid her from superman, like dude she killed millions…
@@sesereddead465 when i was reading the comics it annoyed and made me mad too, especially coming from green arrow, but it ends up working with how she fits into the story they even have times where they'd just lose without her help and she's ready to die to save people like we get to see it grow from "wtf no kill this bish she helped!" to "huh i didnt expect that from harley" or even "well i'm glad they didnt kill her they'd have lost" lol.
but here it just seems.... forced... like you said she killed millions but without any of the development after she just basically gets off scot-free, in this her role could have been filled by just about anyone really lol. i think they only kept her in as much as they did because of fans of the character really. kinda bs since flash ma kent and many others didnt make the cut :/ .
like i said earlier i did find the movie entertaining. but they certainly could have done better with it.
Definitely would have loved to seen an Injustice animated mini series, Invincible proved a violent superhero animated show works.
That or a multi part movie for each year. Either way the animated movie was a massive disappointment and changed to many iconic scenes. Truly was beyond a disappointment 😔
Could’ve got on the hype train of violent shows like invincible and Harley Quinn HBO series while it lasted
Would’ve love a mini series
@@VanTesla don't worry it's the creators fault for making this movie not yours
Ehhh I feel like Invincible really only had the violence cause, past that, what does this story do?
@@lilsoonerfaninmo “Being a hero is bullshit”
I still can't get over the fact that no one remembers Flash
Who?
Lol
Except reverse flash who's drinking in a pub
Who?
that was an understandable disppointment along with the big changes to wonder woman. makes sense with the limited time but i cant help but wonder what kind of process they went through to decide what to cut or change since at times it seemed thought out but them others it was more like they chucked darts at a wall of memo cards.
I don't know who this movie was supposed to be for. Fans of the games don't get to watch characters duke it out, fans of the comics don't get to see like anything from it, and newcomers get an extremely rushed plot with a very lame ending.
i'm a newcomer and i liked it till i heard about the comics
@@mustafaal-ghezi1757 The comics have issues especially in later year Arcs. But majority is excellent and the animated movie did a very poor disservice. Heck even compared to the videogames that came first the changes made no sense...
As a newcomer it wasn't the lame ending that bothered me the most, it was how much I absolutely despised Batman. The only ending that would have made me happy would him getting punched into paste, I hated him so fucking much
@@nightmarefanatic1819 agreed 👍 👌
I like marvel more than dc but I love superhero movies in general, I loved this movie
The Injustice storyline is of my favorites comic stories. After hearing what they did in this, I’m good.
Completely agree.
The movie was so so so so disappointing.
I thought it was going to be a series....
Cause no was they would be able to concise everything into 73mins 🤦🤦
fr. i preordered it and watched it the day i came out and was SO disappointed.
Yeah read the comics instead.
Comics are better 100%
Forreal man, we got the comics and videogames
“And they do this really interesting thing with Luthor where he doesn’t appear at all” 💀💀
I died. That was so funny.
Ikr 😆
I watched it the other day and I was cooking and went Into the kitchen and missed the flash scene so the whole movie I was wondering where tf is the flash? Then I watched his death scene at the beginning oof.
I thought the Flash death was a fake out scene and he will dodge it or phase through it, but no. It was real.
if it or the game your only experience with injustice and you're a flash fan try the comics mate. they fridged him here for time i'd assume, but in the comics he's got a decent arc. too avoid any significant spoilers all i'll really say is he doesnt die at the beginning.
That's bothered me alot 😕, because he's the fastest man alive, it just doesn't make any sense,none at all............
I felt like that whole thing was unrealistic. I don't see how The Flash couldn't have avoided it.
I was the same, Man got done like the bank heist goons in the dark knight 😂 you'd almost think he was a d list "who" superhero and not.. you know *THE FLASH* 😂
For whatever reason, they wanted to replace him in some key scenes with Mr. Terrific. Instead of just doing that, they killed him off and nobody in-universe seems to notice. Ugh.
me, typing "this should have been a miniseries" as you say it: YEAH THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M TYPIN MY DUDE
I call it the invincible route
“It doesn’t do the story justice.”
So what you’re saying is… it does the story an… Injustice?
Edit: This comment honestly has a two hundred and two more likes than it deserves.
Magnificent.
roll credits
You just couldn’t resist the dad joke could ya 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@jerromimuckle139 It was the kind of joke I was expecting the man to make.
@@kourtneyr.scruggs0988 while you're at it, buy some milk LOL.
"Jimmy goes for a shot only to get shot" made me laugh more than it should've lol
Evil Superman definitely has gotten stale at this point.
What really chaps my ass is not just "Evil Superman" but "Superman is evil because he killed an unrepentant psychopath responsible for the deaths of millions of people." Everything after that just felt like the story piling on shit to justify Batman's position that this was him crossing the Moral Event Horizon, because Batman has to be perfect and his position always right.
Incorrect
Agreed maybe if people could go back and represent Superman correctly in media and remind people why he’s such a good character in stead of bad adaptations and then show evil Superman arches, like yeah no wonder people don’t like Superman they don’t even get the character.
You say that like the Injustice franchise came out in 2022 not 2013. Was it stale then? No it wasn't even popular then, sure the trope existed but Injustice made it big and most people who hate don't even understand the way Injustice Superman is "evil"
@@nightmarefanatic1819 Superman isn't evil because he killed Joker, he's evil because what Joker did twisted his worldview and made hiim vulnerable to further radicalisation by surrounding himself with those who agreed with his new path especially Wonder Woman
Apokolis War will forever be goated. The Justice League Dark movies really never missed
that movie sucks
@@NovaRoof I guess we don't share tastes in this instance.
Those movies were pretty meh tbh
Flashpoint was cool tho
i've enjoyed most of dc's animated movies but do prefer the darker stories like this, batman who laughs, apokolips war and the justice league dark/constantine stories, just find them more interesting. i think they did fine with this one. unfortunately fines not exactly great with the expectations people had. luckily i went into it knowing there was no way they'd fit like 6 years of comics + a game into just a couple hours lol. . would i have liked it to be better and a bit more faithful? sure. but i wouldnt call it bad or the worst movie/adaption around.
hopefully they use the reception of this as a stepping stone for future projects and it doesnt just move them away from the more mature dramatic stories. campy and silly is great but sometimes ya want the true grit version. or i do anyway. if that makes sense lol.
I personally hated Apokolips War since it felt like torture porn of my favorite superheroes.
I’m reading Year One and they really could of stretched this out into a six part mini series. That’s the only way to do this story justice.
Completely agree it would have been something episodic, like young justice or something
I'd say make each year a 6-10 episode series of the 40 minute episodes. Granted it would be a long process but this would be a cash mine for WB
...don't you mean, INjustice 😅✌🏾
@@camnunes8847 Or if budget is tight, make it a limited-series, each year of the story = 2 episodes = 12+1 episodes (the series finale should be spread out over 3 episodes). That's a full 13 episodes, 40 mins each, enough to do this story... Justice (pun intended).
Whether 13 episodes or just 6, most importantly: WB/DC needs to *hire a competent showrunner* , preferably someone who's OPENED A COMIC BOOK IN HIS/HER LIFE 😐
So you're saying they did this movie an injustice
(I am so sorry for the pun but I had to make it)
I still haven't watched this yet just from hearing that they killed flash. They just gave all his stuff to Mister Terrific so they could have just kept him alive.
The way they killed the flash was easily the worst crime, dude couldn't outrun a table saw lmfao
@@ronald8664 like really wtf. He's fast enough to go through Time and sometimes travel the Multiverse. Even if he thought it was a poison wouldn't he vibrate to get rid of it? And the Saw, wouldn't he run from it even if he thought it was fake? I feel like they didn't know anything about Flash and just wanted him gone.
@@ArmaniGaming7 It's for those exact reasons they needed him gone. They ended the DC Animated Universe with him rebooting the Universe (again). If he was left alive, there would always be the question of, "Why didn't he just go back in time to save Lois."
@@jardex2275 that was also a question brought up in the game and comics and he shut both Batman and Superman down because they both asked him and he told them both he didn't know what damages he would cause to the timeline. So they really didn't need to kill him off.
Why TF did Batman and Superman not fight each other? That’s the main part about Injustice, the conflict between the two. It feels like it’s not resolved because they didn’t even squabble.😒
This could have benefited so much if it was 2 parts, I understand they wanted creative freedom but why not just create a original story instead of doing a poor adaptation
Two parts would have been great and I would have paid for both
yeah, like the long halloween. And have the art style look like the comics and cover art with realistic proportions, kinda like invincible, instead of the weird cartoony one they went with for this movie.
Please tell me this isn’t the same storyline as son of Batman, batman vs Robin, etc. I don’t think my heart can handle that Damian killing Dick 😅😅😅😅
nope the injustice timeline is separate from them. at least as far as my knowledge goes. though in the main continuity i do think damien died and batman went through a bunch of crazy stuff to bring him back that gave him powers for a little while.
Don't worry, it's not. The Injustice continuity is completely separate from the DCAMU
@@nicname3147 i actually had to explain it to my sister and brother in law too (a little comics and 0 comics experience between them lol) i thought it would just be an easy " don't worry they're separate" ... but then i had to explain the multiverse xD T_T .. eventually i gave up because i started confusing myself too just trying to get'em to understand so i said something like "fuck idk it's kind of like into the spiderverse or spiderman no way home but with more characters and stuff" .
both get it -__-
i spent 10-20 minutes trying to explain something i could have solved with t a movie reference lol.
sorry to ramble.
@@wugglesx That's funny, yet relatable. Sometimes a simple reference can solve everything
@@nicname3147 literally face palmed when they finally understood lol. very true though mate knowing the right comparison for some things can make all the difference... well or at least save some time.
Flashpoint and War are the best animation of Justice League
War is basically a comedy though. It’s not very good; when I watch it, I watch it to laugh at how dumb everything is.
flashpoint,dark knight returns and under the rood hood are the golden age of DC animated movie
@@NameLindseyUnder the red hood was a bit silly, but I loved the other 2
The Flash being affected by the toxin made sense to me because he was still being exposed to it, if the flow had stopped he'd have woken up almost instantly
his body would metabluze it before it could reach his brain
If Superman can fly at the same speed Flash can run, then why didn’t he just fly around the earth to undo everything. He could just easily protect Lois from being kidnapped and avoid everything
I've only seen Plastic Man's highlight reel from this film. "I'm flattered but very married." Seems that's the best thing about it.
This definitely should have been in parts, it was extremely rushed to the point I didn't even realize the flash had died until maybe half way through. I figured he was just injured
I prefer the fact that in the game, when Superman kills Joker, he screams in pain instead of laughing.
It makes things way more impactful...
I think we need a slower injustice story, i dont think the superman flip to villainy is very convincing unless you do it like the game and comic(probably i havent read it), but more from the perspective that superman keeps pushing the line of how far he goes further with each mistake and when he accidentally kills innocents it impacts his choices like it’s something he’d do again or do something worse next time until he kills a friend then you think how many friends will he kill? All of them? And then by the end he’s a completely different and recognizable character.
I love what they did to luthor in this movie, oh my gosh!!! his scenes were amazing in this movie, my favorite scene was when HE NEVER APPEARs AT ALL
to be honest, when i saw flash's death, i was like "NO NO NO!!! HE HAS TO BE NOT DEAD!!! that was just his arm, the blood was from his arm or shoulder" so fast forwarded the movie to see if flash isn't dead or they might have revived or resurrect him but NOOOOO!!! i was just so disappointed that flash and cyborg died
I was so mad lmao. They literally killed flash, and split his storyline and dealt them out to different characters.
I really wanted to see the scene where Superman blasts Batman identity on Twitter animated. There were so many good scenes just cut, they did this movie dirty.
I was actually liking it the first half, it hit all the major moments of year 1.. But when they didn't have the "what did you do?" moment I started to worry, when the superman vs batman in the cave didn't happen I have up.. Alfred headbutting superman is one of my favorite moments in all of comics and I was really looking forward to see it.. I really don't get why they thought this ending was better than the original even for a movie
My problem with this: the Flash become Redshirt of superheroes, Regime Superman's moral event horizon taken away, Dick Grayson dies without getting his neck snapped by debris, etc
In comic it was pure accident, and people can relate to batman and robin
But in move it was murder
There's one superman deconstruction by Alan Moore. Before their was Squadron Supreme, Marvel Ultimate Universe, The Authority, Stormwatch, Supreme Power, Injustice, Irredeemable, and Invincible. It is called Miracleman. By comic book writer Alan Moore. A deconstruction of the superhero genre that embraces the superhero tropes and ideas. Unlike Watchmen. Which is basically a Batman deconstruction. Another Alan Moore storyline. Miracleman would be amazing an animated mini series. Before these titles I have mentioned. Before they existed. Miracleman embraces the superhero genre as an experimental tale.
My biggest problems with this movie:
-They killed flash
-Nobody cared about flash death
-I hated Harley because she basically as guilty as the joker but since she didn't have those 5 years character developpement she was just that idiot who was joking around with f*cking Batman, and the other heroes after helping in the destruction of metropolis.
-Batman was always right here while comics everyone did something that made Superman worse.
- They killed flash
- "Deadwing" like WTF
-They killed Flash
- Black Canary wasn't there
-Most of the league let that happened while in the comics some join sup others joined their was more members
- They killed Flash.
-Lois is the Key
-They killed Flash
Literally with a pair of fake hands from Scarecrow’s fear toxin that made him think they were grabbing him and then he dies to a fucking saw 🤦🏽♂️ I honestly gave up trying to justify it at that point
I can’t be very mad at the writers considering how little screen time they were given to tell this story in: they were able to give you some of the best moments from the comic run (albeit with some bumps) while being forced to sideline a lot of the more interesting arcs from characters we know and love. If the writers had a whole miniseries this would’ve been better, but some of these clips still are exactly how I read them in my head during the comic run.
10:25 you aren't going to mention the fact that Superman finishes the fight by combining both super moves from both super moves from the Injustice games
love how none of the characters even kinda acknowledge that Flash is headless under a subway somewhere
Injustice is basically not understanding superman at all, and I’m tired of the whole bad superman trope.
I will always have my feelings about Injustice (I’m a comic reader) but if they’re taking stuff out to condense it, i know I’m not gonna be able to watch it without pausing every 5 minutes to yell
What made me disappointed the most was that they killed the Flash off immediately because they didn't have time but they had the time for nightwing turning into a ghost
I liked it overall, but it left me with a LOT of unanswered questions. I wish they made it a series of movies and not condensed into one single movie.
I wanna be as comfy as you look in that of drawing with a Batman Snuggie blanket thingie
1. Flash got robbed 2. They showed just small parts from comics 3. No lex Luther 4. Should had done mini series and show all years not just mashup the whole comics.
Can someone please explain…how Bruce is able to pull away from Clark every single time without Clark hearing him? You know…with the super hearing and all? (please don’t “because he’s Batman” shit…or that’s just a gag?)
Within ever sage a villain resides
At the bottom of every montain an abyss lise
Blodbout may arise
I cannot escape
Nor can you !
all i know is batman is insufferable here and that's coming from a person who likes batman. he is basically gaslighting superman that he is going out of his mind instead of being there for his friend. he is actively making an enemy out of supes while clark tried to console him when nightwing died by talking to selena even though he knows batman is mad at him.
also, batman is putting viruses and bugs on his teammates? isn't that what tyrants do? tracking their own people? he was already doing underhanded tactics and borderline illegal shit way before supes turns to tyrant and we are supposed to root for batman here?
Batman's "smile" just being the lack of a frown killed me 😂
We should start a petition or at least tweet storm WB to get an Injustice series, Invincible style
They killed flash in the most bs move ever. No
How did they screw up Injustice? It’s one of my favorite dc comics based fighting games as well as comic adaptations of said games themselves. How?!
The Flash could legit move faster than Superman, he could walk on water and travel through time. The way he died was the worst death ever. Being killed by the Reverse Flash would’ve been better like cmon
I love the game story and read all injustice comics, yes all I can say with all due respect that this adaptation was....
A load of shit, should have been a series they managed to botch the story that got Me to read comics in so many ways that I didn't think was possible. It was extra disappointing because I was hyped
Amen brother/sister
Kind of weird Harley ended up alive. Would have thought Superman would have fried her brain the moment he saw since she was one of the people who planned to make him kill Louis and Nuke his city
Cutting out characters was the "DUMBEST" thing ever
if anyone's interested in a comparison. for the killing joke there was too little material to adapt it was around 40-50 pages. but with injustice well. each series is 100s of pages, with far more characters and plotlines than the killing joke had.
not saying i wasnt kinda disappointed too but just that it's not a bad movie for what we got.
tho maybe going into things not knowing what to expect but just that it wouldnt be a retelling of the comics made it easier for me to accept the shortcomings and enjoy the high points.
Yellow flash is the only one to care for his nemesis death, he was in the bar drinking his sorrow
8:17 i was waiting for this line 😅 "full Homelander"
It's one thing to kill off characters that should've NEVER been killed off, but they didn't even get the right VA's to return!! I mean--come on! Was Kevin Conroy REALLY that hard to get?!
As someone who played the games and read the comics you hit the nail on the head when you said it’s a bare bones version. This should have been a longer movie or even a mini series to do the story Justice. It’s nice we got this movie but I feel like it was just a missed opportunity.
Big goofy smile is my favorite joke in a while for some reason
I’m good with the games bro 🙏🏾🙏🏾 It’s insane how changing a couple of things can make such a storyline shit !
It was always kinda shit
Dude is name dropping animated movie titles like penny change
Damn I didn’t know Lois had powers to survive being beat down like that at those high speed and not just Turning to dust lmfao and who knew joker and Harley were so good at heart surgery
Starting to think Wonder Woman might have arranged for Lois getting snatched.
I watched the movie because of Plastic Man, he needs more screen time in future films.
“We’re pregnant 😳mostly you but still” DEADDD
Just one minor note, Superman doesn't kill 12 year old Billy Batson. Assuming Billy is 12 when Metropolis blows up, Superman kills him at 17-18, since 5-6 years have passed
Diana was right about how the Joker escaped to kill again. A good solution would be too increase security at Arkham Asylum or put criminals like the Joker in locations that aren't accessible or are higher security and harder to escape from than Arkham
Not doing the death of Billy is tantamount to Peter Jackson not doing 'You shall not pass!'.
Robin was betrayed by his grandfather, killed his older brother figure and shunned by his father and in the end his father gives his criminal girlfriend a second chance, not his son that went through all that..
Ive literally never seen a movie more rushed in my entire life. That being said i still had fun seeing the injustice storyline played out on screen
EDIT: the zack snyder as a whole is kinda just as rushed as this single movie.
I can sum it up very quickly: they tried to cram five years worth of comic stories into an hour-and-a-half movie. If they were going to do this properly they should have focused on one year at time.
this should have been a tv show similar to Young Justice, with each season being a year
I agree, it would've been so much better. I knew it was gon a be disappointing when I saw the move length time. At the very least they should've made it as long as the Snyder cut of the Justice League if they wanted to make it decent. But a multi season show would've been ideal.
It was simple really divide the league in two and we watch the fights
They served me with okay patty and definitely forget the buns that hold it all together 👏🏽 Couldn’t be more on point
I've never seen so many superheroes and their friends and loved ones die so quickly. It really did play out like a video game. I did enjoyed it, but it was so rushed and unfinished.
The "Accept calls like batman." part never seems to not be funny. Its like saying "Eat food like Jesus."
this video not being titled just "An Injustice - let me explain" is an injustice unto itself...
no, i will not explain
some good points. i thought it was okay as a standalone movie they wanted to conclude in it's own runtime, but a bit of a disappointing adaptation to the comics. considering how long the series is though i dont see a single movie being able to do it justice without being 3-4 hours and still left open.. i understand the mixed reception. personally i think they should have done something that would have gave it longevity instead of trying to keep the story just enough the same to seem like injustice but change so much it fits in the runtime.
maybe something like a cw or netflix or GoT series 40-60minute mini movies steadily going through the story.
love righteous minds instrumental in the back ❤️
The Injustice comics are my favorite comic run of all time. They have so much intricate humanity, they're freaking gorgeous.
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I am pretty sure Batman fans would love Injustice to be more like The Boys and turn Superman into Homelander.
That live action Diana joke was gold lmao
I love how they casually killed flash and Adam
one thing I hate is the art style. It looks like though wanted to go with the dcau designs, but also go with the grounded injustice designs, so they mixed them and it looks horrible. And everything feels so stiff. They should've completely went with the injustice designs and given them realistic proportions and stuff, like other dc animated movies.
"He's able to literally put on his plot armour and escape"
Not even 90min
I felt that
DC given more independence as of late may end up with Injustice soon. It's an injustice how these stories and characters don't have a consistent appeal in the silver screen.
It doesn't even have Lobo... Granted, he's in Injustice 2 comic run, but the Main Man is the highlight of it.
Ok, I’m sorry but Nightwing is Bruce’s adopted son. Not that other thing you said
4:00 you lost me at “new cew ler bomb”
I was expecting them to make multiple movies from this. Injustice does last 6 years. If not 6 different movies, surely they could have done 3 with 2 years being in a single movie. Also, I know that everyone says this, but taking out Flash was the worst thing they could have done. Especially because in that chess scene, with Mr. Terrific there's one game, with Flash there are multiple games, and every time either Flash or Superman makes a point, they play 3 games of chess, where the one who made the point won those games, subtly showing the audience that both sides have legitimate points. Instead it's just one game, ending in Mr. Terrific saying "I'm not going to help you Superman."
“They don’t do the stories justice” well the name of the movie is “injustice “ 😭😂
I guess you could say, it was an injustice to the comics
The chess scene in the comics was a billion times better purely because The Flash was alive for that. Not only were there several games in one conversation, because both characters think and move very fast, but also The Flash is all about family and he'd do almost anything for his family. He would be extremely understanding to Superman's situation, which makes the moral dilemma much more complicated for him.
I love the subtle references to other DC movies you made
And also bonds being broken
missed opportunity to have the title as "injustice was done injustice"
I mean, you COULD listen with them in Metropolis...if Metropolis wasn't gone...like Lois and her baby.
'It doesnt do the story justice' so you could say... its.... Injustice :D
My boy Barry was done dirty in this movie, dude.