Don't waste your breath. In M. Night's universe, law enforcement are some of the dumbest people to ever live. The FBI lady is in their ears, the whole time, talking about "this guy is methodical, he's smart, he's gonna try anything to get out of here". And the amount of times they run into this guy in situations he shouldn't be in and just let him walk is completely ridiculous. This all would've made a lot more sense if it was an Unbreakable spinoff, and he had some sort of mind control powers
So this whole debacle happened because the wife suspected that her husband might be a serial killer, but instead of calling the cops and tell them her suspicion she instead sent them to a f-ing concert... F-ing great!
"oh... if I let the cops see this concert ticket, maybe they'll setup a sting operation at the conert with 30 thousand people involved to catch him." yeah lady, that was clearly the optimal solution here.
@@merphul it's actually worse... This line of questioning reveals another plot hole. The FBI comes to the concert with 100% conviction that the serial killer is going to be there. But how did they come to that conclusion? So I rewatched the part of the movie where the wife talked to her husband alone. Turns out she has been suspicious that her husband is a serial killer for some time because of various reasons. So she followed him to a safe house. Came back another day and broke in but didn't find anything incriminating. So SHE PLANTED IN THE SAFE HOUSE A CONCERT TICKET which belongs to her husband. SHE TORE PART OF THAT TICKET to make it look believable(that is why the FBI/police didn't know where the suspect was sitting). She then called the police informing them that the ticket might belong to the serial killer, The Butcher. She didn't reveal her identity in that phone call because she's afraid. The police came to investigate the safe house and ask the neighborhood for more information. The police got a description of a man, plus the torn ticker and nothing else. We don't know if the police found a finger print on the ticket and matched that with what they found on the previous crime scenes. The movie didn't even bring up any discussion about fingerprints. So tell me... The police have been tipped by an anonymous caller. They have a torn concert ticket and a description of a man, WHAT EVIDENCE TELLS THEM THAT THE MAN WHO OWNS THIS TICKET IS THE SERIAL KILLER? Goddd the writing is so bad it's rotten.
@@Loch1210 I agree that the wife doesn’t have any proof that her husband is the serial killer, besides her personal suspicion. But she did suspect him enough to call the cops. Can you explain to me what convinces the police that the serial killer is going to be in the concert just from the investigation in the safe house? All they have were 1. The concert ticket, and 2. A description of a man. This is important, I said man because at this point there is no evidence that leads to the conclusion that the serial killer was indeed in that safe house. If the police have more evidences than that, then it’s not mentioned in the movie. I would like you to read my other comment where I explained why the police couldn’t possibly be convinced just by the evidences they obtained in that safe house. My argument was that some authority in the police or the FBI must have issued a warrant, I don’t know which specifically maybe a search warrant or an arrest warrant for the serial killer and authorized the use of hundreds if not thousands of police officers and SWAT agents to capture him. So what are the evidences that justify the operation? What I think should’ve happen is the wife calling the cops and telling them about her suspicion on her husband. The police would have taken the suspicion seriously and make further inquiries about him. If the suspicion was reasonable or the profiles matched then they could follow him and proceed from there. The writers failed to deliver the necessary information to us and failed to make a coherent story. that’s why I said it’s bad writing.
@@arisamone I thought the safe house had some type of evidence but I don’t remember They had to have a warrant to do all that.Movie is suspect so the answer is probably bad writing
@@angryox3102 are you being sarcastic? The music sounded like well-produced pop music, and she has a decent voice. Her acting was so atrocious, especially when she was supposed to be absolutely terrified that me and my fam were laughing in the cinema and doing impressions of her attempts to emote: 😕🫤🙁☹️🫤😕🙁☹️
@@DrT0705 that was poor word choice on my part, I should’ve said character instead of acting. The music was just bland pop music, in one ear and out the other.
There was a collective audible groan in my theater every time Josh Hartnett somehow escaped detection. 10/10 must see in theaters so you don’t suffer alone
@@BeastCoast4747 Suspense lol. 1hr into the movie I was just hoping it would end at every turn. The smoothest brain move he did was threatening M. Night's daughter. She was also dumb for not outing him when he didn't have his phone on hand and heavily armed policemen were just 2 steps away.
By the end I was audibly saying "yeah, he just gouged your buddies eyes out, definitely taze him, don't shoot him or anything. Alright, they FINALLY caught him..... why are they letting him touch the bike???"
No but the family was already suspecting it was reaching a fever pitch and he already put the family in the bedroom and he still was struggling with the door. A fireman can get through a door in zero time
@@KnicknackCottonWolf his character did have ocd, I don’t think he’d break it down even if he could. To keep the charade going as long as possible suspicious or not.
I still can't get over bad the "twist" was, with how the wife found out about him and how he actually ate the pie. Such a tropey plot point in so many other series or movies.
Actually, I think him falling for the pie is one of the most believable things. I'm pretty sure he saw her put the pie onto both of their plates, and his wife took the first bite out of the pie on her plate. He had no reason to suspect his wife had access to sleeping powder. There is plenty of other very ridiculous things in the movie.
The moment when the movie went from the father daughter dynamic to M. Night’s daughter becoming a MAIN character was not the way to go, making a movie to promote your kid’s career is one thing but than having them tun from a “side” character to a main character when she CAN’T act whatsoever again was not the way to go…
That livestream scene was hard to watch. If I saw a celeb doing that, I'd think it was horrible acting for a lame promotion... not panicked for her life.
As much as I hate nepotism, this is pretty cool. He’s funding it himself so I view it differently. On the flip side he’s buying his children a really expensive LARP.
I actually added "Release" to a few of my playlists. Just because she has famous parents doesnt mean she isnt talented or deserving. I feel like M Night may have been a better comic book writer.
@kyralindsey5885 it means someone who's probably better won't get the opportunity because their dad isn't a big Hollywood director. You wanna support her that's fine but pretending like who her dad is has absolutely nothing to do with the opportunities she's given that's delusional. Hollywood is one of the only places where "it ain't what you know it's who you know" applies 100%
@@Reese1882yw hypotheticals dont really matter on this. He knew his own daughter was an aspiring singer, so he cast her in a movie he funded himself. Cry harder
@Reese1882yw tbf to her, as long as she acknowledges that she has had more of an opportunity than other artists who dont have famous parents, is it really that bad? As long as she's kendall jenner who tried to say that she had to "work so hard" to get her modelling jobs despite the fact that shes s kardashian and her actual model expertise is majorly lacking then eh
I liked the movie up until after the concert. Then it got so silly especially when the teenage girl decided to go toe to toe with a serial killer 😂 the songs often dragged on too. But I loved the first half with the dad and daughter. I think I enjoyed it more because I was stoned
The movie really does completely fall off a cliff as soon as Cooper just fucking tells Lady Raven he’s the killer, with PROOF. The entire thrill of the movie, being a hunt for a criminal from the criminal’s perspective, is the uncertainty of whether or not Cooper will be caught. With this bone-headed, nonsensical tactic the movie basically locks in Cooper has no way of NOT being caught with over an hour of runtime left. Genuinely, how did he ever expect to get away with telling Raven he was the killer? She knows his name and face, and his daughter’s as well, she could have easily reported him after dropping him off even without her ridiculous plan to go to Cooper’s house. The leverage of his trapped victim is in no universe going to make her decide to never tell police about him and just let him keep murdering. And it’s not as if he can just kill a huge celebrity and her driver to keep them from telling, Cooper was obviously backstage with her and he would have been an instant top suspect. There is no reason Cooper couldn’t have asked Raven for a ride for his daughter, or come up with any number of lies or motivators to get in the limousine, anything besides ADMITTING HIS CRIMES TO SOMEONE HE CANNOT KILL. It was a completely moronic development that ruined the tone and plot of the movie and led to the utterly fucking harebrained nonsense of Cooper somehow Houdini-ing his way out of two more scenarios in the most unbelievable ways imaginable (thank goodness he had a spare SWAT uniform to change into at his house!). It’s a real shame because this is a super interesting and fun premise, but it’s killed by Shyamalan forcing his daughter into the spotlight and basically giving up coherence midway into the script.
Totally agree with you! I was really enjoying the movie, Cooper was shown not a ordinary man but the person who controls or influences others in a clever or unscrupulous way. Loved the scene he walked out room full of swat with coffee in hand and switched his body language, listening profiler conversation and smiling and dancing with his daughter all things working fine...up to the point " I'm the Butcher" you are all after me. I was like wtf!? Just happened ruined everything for me...Movie turned into a "are you kidding me" episodes! Sorry for my bad english. You explained everything perfectly.
The plot twist I came up with was that the guy Cooper kidnapped was the real killer. The guy killed Cooper’s wife so Cooper tracked him down and kidnapped him, with intent to kill him out of revenge after making him suffer in the same way he made his wife and other victims. The concert was a way to cheer his grieving daughter up, but when he got there and realized what happened, Cooper realized that he had inadvertently framed himself as the killer and had to find a way to escape before they arrested him instead.
That's good... this could have brought a moral dilemna to Lady Raven during the confrontation : Report a crime and uphold the law, or understand a man's grieving. Something like that would've been unexpected, whereas in the movie there was no real twist as we all expected :/
I was expecting the more predictable M. Night Shyamalan twist where the mother turns out to be an unhinged psycho that was in on the whole killing their victims thing.
My sister and I thought the entire family would be in on it. I was hoping it was really the daughter the entire time. And then I thought that vision of his mother at the end was really the FBI profiler dressed up. NOPE!
It would’ve definitely made for a better ending if the whole family was in on it. It would’ve added a lot of depth to the hallucination scenes as well. His hallucinations of his mother calling him a monster, him resisting that notion and finding out in the end he resists this because his whole family is like him. So he’s considered “the crazy one” in the family for having a conscious in the form of his mother. Man, what a missed opportunity.
the movie was pretty shit but that would’ve defeated the entire purpose of the message. like m. night says in the vid, all of his movies revolve around the fear of the destruction of the nuclear family. it’s supposed to be about how serial killers can go unnoticed for so long by even their closest friends and family, because they’re master manipulators. if the whole family is in on the murders, the whole “double life” angle is lost.
I only went because of Josh Hartnett, but omg...the movie was a drag. I was hoping there'd be more "thrill" from beyond the trailer spoiler that he was the villain. The thrill never came. I was still happy to see Josh. And Kid Cudi was so fun lol
@@itsnick5082 the trailer really hyped the movie because most people were thinking if that was the twist shown beforehand, there must be an AMAZING twist or double-bluff coming. How wrong we were 😭
Cooper was played well by Josh Hartnett, but was written with some crazy plot armor. How did he go behind the counter of the burger place in full view of the customers and employees, pick up two full bottles of oil which are also in blatent open view, put them in the fryer without the oil in the fryer overflowing, turn the fryer up, and then walk out without a single person seeing him do all of this? Theres a million security cameras and he wasnt wearing any kind of disguise. Obviously, in real life, the manager at the burger place or the cops/fbi would go and look at the security footage to see how two full unopened bottles of oil ended up in the fryer, or at the very least ask around if anyone saw anything, which several people should have considering the fryer was right behind the counter. Especially considering the fbi lady said the butcher would use chaos as a distraction. Yet after this very chaotic distraction, not a sinlge person goes to look at the security footage?? Also how did Josh Hartnett know how the break room was laid out where the swat team was meeting? As he's walking through the group of swat, he says he's getting some coffee. But there's no way he could just know there's a coffee machine around the corner and through the group of swat. He physically couldn't see it to know it's there. Then the one swat dude asks where they keep the sugar, and Cooper just knew there was a full carafe of sugar in the first cabinet he opens? He even calls it his own stash before he gets it, like he somehow just magically knew it would be there. I genuinely thought they might reveal later in the movie that Cooper had been to the stadium before, like maybe he had somehow heard there would be a trap, so he had broken in to set up certain contingincies throughout the stadium well before the date of the concert that would help him get out without detection or pose as an employee of the stadium by knowing the layout ahead of time The last one that stood out to me was the thing with the bike near the end, when hes being arrested and they bring him out of his house and he stops and turns towards his daughter's bike, picks it up, and snaps the wheel spoke off without anyone noticing. No police or swat in real life would ever in a million years let a dangerous criminal who has done what Cooper had done just stop to pick up a bike that's laid down. They also wouldnt cuff him with his hands in front of him. They would cuff his hands behind him and march him straight to the truck, making no stops and giving him no chances to run away or grab anything he could use as a weapon or distraction. Its like this movie takes place in an alternate universe where police/swat/fbi are all dumb and are just awful at their jobs
A lot of what he gets away with stems from the fact that he knows how to manipulate his environment because he's very aware of it and he knows that people aren't really paying attention to anything but themselves. In a lot of the scenes you can see how he's really just bullshitting his way through things, if it works great but if it doesn't he comes up with another plan, like the breakroom scene.. some of the things were obvious because of the environment, like he knew there was coffee because its a breakroom.. the cabinet below would be an obvious place to look for sugar...he uses his situational awareness to his advantage... in the end scene he knows that they know he has ocd so he uses that to be able to fiddle with the bicycle and they let him because the profiler, aware of his condition, okays it. The final scene is really the best one because it's that laugh that he lets out that really shows you how even he cant believe he keeps getting away with this shit
@@kcb342 lol bullshit. When he grabs the police radio any of the 20 cops could have been looking his way. Thats just one of many stupid things that happen.
Inreal life the cameras can show the path you take before you commit the action idk what movie magic goes as far to show but that’s subjective reality cameras can track movement before and afterwards of you doing the action and even freeze frame and crop it automatically 😅
to me, all of his movies have some level of goofyness to it, including the best ones like the sixth sense and split. sometimes it works, most times it doesn't but it's definitely one of m. night's trademarks.
Since Signs, it didn’t work until he made Split. The Visit was okay but the goofiness was wayyyy too much. But, he’s been back harder than ever with the goofiness.
The thing is, you know Cooper is the serial killer. Of course, there are things such as the T-shirt clerk telling him which es obviously dumb but acting like there wasn’t much intelligence needed from him is silly.
What really gets me is u would think they would finally catch him after the entire movie is about that but the fact he gets away at the end is insane 😂
For one second I thought the FBI lady was his mom and it would have been a great twist(even tho it wouldn't have made sense) Plus thanks to the trailer they just threw away "he is the serial killer they have been looking for" twist, it would have been kinda mind blowing.
hey i don't know how he is still making films. the fact that it's a world wide release proves that basically any movie can make back its profit as the market really is so big.
a good twist in the movie would of been if he wasnt actually the butcher and they just happened to catch another serial killer that happened to be at the concert also and they just stumbled to catch him instead.
Also the clip of the person being kidnapped into the van was full force non-human strength. Wtf. I’d feel so much better with the $20 I just spent to watch this is it did tie into one of M’s other movies
@@jackjoans340 I'm sure it is. Sure Night kept it secret. Too much ester eggs from the Eastrail #177 trilogy and other of his movies (The strength of Cooper like David/Kevin, the magic/intuition/manipulation he use to escape, the lion statue in the park like at the end of split, the power of Lady Raven to unlock Cooper's Phone with her finger, her breathing problem like Morgan in Signs, she calms and manipulates people like Casey, her slow escape from Cooper's car like Casey, the way the profiler take the knife from the floor like in The Happening....) And notice that TRAP in reverse is PART, like SPLIT in pieces, or a BROKEN GLASS
My favorite part is when he says “never let the two lives touch” to explain why he’s ill prepared for escape at his house - just to have a secret tunnel in his house
I think that for him meant that he never thought about how a victim could escape from his house, but the tunnel is for himself if he ever gets caught. like he wouldn't be murdering/torturing anyone in his own house but he could escape without detection. still a bad movie lol but that's what I thought he meant
The premise was so interesting, but as soon as people knew this was directed by Shyamalan, we ALL knew it was going to be a freaking trap. Ironically. He has very good ideas, he never gets to find them a good climax and therefore, a good ending. His first films were so much better, idk what happened.
He has to meta the audiences expectations of every moment of the film. Even the trailer giving away the plot has to be subverted by a second half that takes place outside the stadium and there are like 5 twists, each making less and less actual sense but giving you a burst of OMG in the moment. My hot take is that this is a superbly shot and acted B movie that is fun and reminds me of 80s and 90s action suspense.
Why would the random t-shirt vendor know about a secret FBI sting? I haven’t seen this, so maybe someone can make it make sense. Surely he could have seen some officers or whatever, but knowing it was a stakeout for the Butcher seems like a lot of info for a random guy to have. No? “A super duper secret mission”… ?
Also, why is the random Tshirt vendor spilling the secret to someone who is a potential suspect? Wasn't the whole sting put in place to catch the serial killer who fit Cooper's profile? Why are we telling any of the concert go-ers about the super duper secret mission? And I'm sorry if all of this has been answered in the movie, I haven't seen it 😅
They told all employees about the mission and gave them and ID card and a secret word they had to tell officers in case they had to go somewhere and were seen as suspects by other officers. In this review you can see MC got lucky the uniform he stole from one of the workers had the ID.
@@sushmitaraodesaraju6330 The excuse was that this guy was selling tshirts of lady raven, MC goes there with his daughter to get one but they only have one left. Another girl rudely says she's been there all day so she deserves it. MC tells his daughter she should let her have it and comforts her saying they'll get one some other day. The guy selling tshirts sees this and tells him he understands, he's a good dad, he'll get them another tshirt if they comeback later. Then they meet like twice more I think and since they become friendly they talk about what's going on, etc
honestly it was fun watching it in theaters, my audience had some pretty funny reactions, such as when they showed the guy getting snatched into the van. That got a laugh from everyone because it did look pretty goofy. I would say its a great watch as long as you have others to watch it with haha
I liked this movie despite it’s many flaws. I saw a theory that the dad had Unbreakable/ Split type powers. Might be a reach, but when I watch it again I’m watching it with that perspective.
I think ppl want it to be better than it really is, try to rationalise what they had seen. I'm a M Night Shyamalan fan, but even this & the knock at the cabin was subpar....man lost his mojo after "Glass"
I really expected to hate every second of this and I actually was pleasantly surprised, i love Josh hartnett so that's definitely why I bought in fully to the madness. But I think it just reminds me of older action suspense movies where the audience wasn't used to nit picking every plot hole and detail and was just along for the ride. This is a movie I don't think I could watch a second time though, it's really just keeps you guessing, but upon reflection none of it makes any damn sense! I mean I fully expected him to escape at the end, like an 80s horror villian, and it delivers! A fun ride and keeps my faith in these auteurs.
I watched Trap twice and enjoyed it. Also, the songs are nicely written. Maybe that’s because I’ve had no expectations from this movie. Also, I liked his “Servant” series and the fact that he created a superhero universe for himself. Can’t wait to see Trap being a story of another villain from the Unbreakable universe.
@@jackjoans340 Cooper is kinda strong, specialy when he pulls the guy into the van. Motherfucker lifted him up of the ground like a ragdoll. Seemed so weird and unreal that i laughed out loud.
A nice plot twist would be if his wife was the serial killer and she essentially was trying to frame him, this would only require minor changes to the script. But i will say that Syamalan's movies are imaginative but they tend to fall flat at some point.
I know this is going to sound really bad, but I was so mad when the concession stand worker looks at the fry vat and puts her face right up to it while the glass bottles were floating in there! I was like, girl! Step away from the fry vat once you realize what it is! Step far away and warn everyone else!
I went in with low expectations but still had a good time! The ending was a little clunky and kinda took me out a bit but I still thought it was fun watch! And I actually liked his daughter’s music in this lol
Trap, it’s Nepotism the movie. The scene where M.Night talk about LadyRaven and how she’s “so brave of her” in his cameo had me rolling my eyes so hard.
"m night trapped us into this to show us her daughter's mixtapes" The movie would have worked it was 100% in the concert with hutcherson narrowly escaping rather then the thing we see later. Plus many were complaining that josh as the butcher was revealed in the trailer so the movie just doesnt care about the reveal that he is the butcher. And then the insta live thing was actually smart but i was bored out of it. Well tbh i would love the twist that the FBI leader was the butcher's mom and she wad trying to stop him but i know why that wouldn't be possible. And now i dont want the sequel.
I loved the movie. Almost all of Knight's movies gets odd flak. He just has to be perfect every time it seems. Yet, he's one of the only directors that has the balls to try different things. He breaks away from the genre norms repeatedly. I look forward to his movies because I can't wait to see where he goes next. To me, a lot of his criticism comes from those used to the horror conditioning they're used to.
3:25 i don't like the movie but I don't agree with you on that point. if the police were there before it would raise his alarms and probably would scare him away that's why they arrived later
I actually enjoyed this and was kinda pissed that his daughter's music was kinda good. I wanted to crap all over a nepo project but think I smiled during the entire movie.
At one point I thought the twist was that the merch guy and the uncle getting Cooper backstage was all part of the FBI profiler's plan because it was all just so absurd and contrived! This movie was so close to being a camp classic if it would have been a bit more self-aware.
Don't forget josh harnett stars in of the best vampire movies of all time, 30 days of night. Just scary vampires trying to take over a town nothing more.
I think im like the only person who low key really liked the movie. Yea it got boring in the middle of the movie but I really feel like the start and end of the movie really grabbed me in.
Literally just saw this movie an hour ago and I feel the same; first half was amazing. Definitely felt like a thriller. Loved the music tone how everything did match each scene or each emotion Cooper went through. Definitely enjoyed seeing Russ! Anyone from Jersey I root for! I didn’t like that cooper was always getting lucky!! It felt a tad lazy. Josh is such a good actor , the way he maneuvered in each scene, I felt like I was the butcher with him! I also enjoyed Jamie the tshirt attendee. I thought that was a very real character because I know I can fangirl over just about anything and I liked the call back. The second half fell apart for me. The live stream was just so lazy. I was thinking of it as if this was Beyoncé. There is just no way. I definitely enjoyed the very end when he was in the swat truck. The manic laughing and his face, Josh really does it sell it to the very end
He got hooked up with sooo many lucky coincidences that I was kind of expecting a supernatural twist where he’s literally serving a demon or some shit that’s helping him out with everything
I was genuinely screaming inside when Lady Raven decided to go live and not call the cops to go to the house and do the livestream message at the same time while she's in the bathroom and don't even get me started on how slow the SWAT team took to raid the house while Cooper was still inside washing the damn dishes. You know for being a serial killer, he's pretty terrible at it as he's basically allowed the same victim to escape his grasp TWICE!
You gotta admit it was pretty wild when Bruce Willis turned into 1990s Haley Joel Osment and ended the movie with 'I see a sequel' and gave the camera a cheeky lil wink. Wasn't expecting that. EDIT: Misspelled movie.
The twist is obvious just from the design of the movie poster. What I thought was going to be the twist is that he's a "retired serial killer" but there's an new serial killer in the audience who hunts down teenage girls and his daughter is a target. He has to get to the killer before he gets to her and he can't alert police because he might give himself away that he has bodies he's responsible for. So he's an "inactive" killer hunting down an "active" killer in a stadium while police are profiling everyone. Idk, I kind of wanted it to be like that.
how people don’t get the fun in this movie is beyond us. Just a few examples: 20,000 fans, 3,000 men and Dr Grant has dossiers on all of them. 😅 SWAT leader describes last victim, went to school to be a teacher, has a 2 yr old kid, takes care of his elderly parents and was voted teacher of the year 😂 Cooper describes Spencer to Lady Raven: his name is Spencer, he’s 22 and is into sustainable agriculture 😅 The dialogue is high camp-and Hartnett kills the role tongue in cheek and over the the top 😊 we love it!
A father makes the most expensive audition tape in history. That's Trap, and it's handled with all the subtlety of a jackhammer. (Bonus: his daughter is a TEEEERRRRRRRIIIIBLE actress.)
You kinda forgot to mention how unintentionally funny this movie is like I don't think I have seen many Adam Sandler Film where I genuinely laughed more. It's an incredibly flawed film with huge plot holes at its core but I had a great time watching it with a buddy and that was exactly what I hoped for🤷🏽♂️
OH MY GO- IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR YOUR CHANNEL FOR S O LONG!! I SWEAR I DEDICATED AN HOUR OF MY LIFE TO LOOKING FOR IT ✨💀✨ I’m so happy to be back ✨😭✨ I missed that “listen…”
Hubs and I have been reading reviews and were surprised to find how many negative ones there are. Even you seem to have lost your train of thought when you loved the first half and dissed the second. (Actually we looked at it as 3 Acts). I’ll agree with you that when Saleka’s role was expanded, she flattened the tension instead of building on it. But when she took a back seat, the plot tightened up again. Hey. Everything you point out in the first half of your review needs to be seen the same way in the second half. Same perspective is required! The premise is preposterous! Absurd! The doting dad is a serial killer with mommy issues! There are a hundred improbabilities! Hartnett slides from endearing to menacing with tongue in cheek and deadpan delivery. His over the top expressions are wonderful. If you buy into the comic underpinning of the plot I think you’ll see the beauty of this film. Everything about this new M Night Experience is a hoot! The ironies, the double entendres, even the poignancy of the family relationships are delightful. Hartnett said when shooting some scenes Night burst out laughing. Thought they were hilarious. And he said he himself had great fun playing the split personality in high camp. He read up on psychopathy to get underneath the character’s mindset. We watched the movie twice in the theater. The second time to better appreciate all the flavors in the cake (or pie 😅). Yesterday we streamed it. We had such FUN with this movie! Today hubs found it on VOD and we bought it for posterity 😂 He is a huge fan and has seen all Night’s films. I dipped in and out after The Sixth Sense. But this one is def a winner. We give it 4*. Saleka took off the extra star. 🫤
One cool aspect of the movie is I used to work at the hotel in the stadium where the movie was shot (Skydome Hotel) and there's a shot in the movie showing the spot where I had a million smoke breaks lol.
Im going to come out the gate and say im one of the weirdos. That liked the last half more than the first,i know i dont get it either 😂. But the premise part felt more like a drag,than it should of because that was what the movie was about! Lol I also seperate split from most of his other newer movies because its the best from his newer ones. In my opinion anyway,i also think the visit was good. But yeah learning all this family backstory did make me look at trap differently. I also thought dude was from the unbreakable universe after tanking getting tazed. Which i hope not because Mr.Glass was terrible.
One thing that really annoyed me was how was there so many people walking around the stadium during the concert, like do they all not wanna watch what they paid for
M night has become too focused on making his creations into family business and advertising. A whole movie basically promoting your daughters music with a slight plot in the the background lol
The movie was super fun, goofyness and all. I'm glad I watched in theater with other people because everyone else was laughing by the end and i love that
Bruh im fucking with M Night and him putting his family on . Beautiful . I went in expecting this to be bad but it was interesting. Not too good cos i didnt get why raven goes on live and not just ask for help for herself as well. The limo escape , but it was worth my time. The Raven girl acts how ill expect ariana grande to act. Wish she had more security detail with her whilst she was with cooper. But Ultimately , beautiful to see M night happy and doing this with his daughters. I expect a banger soon , at least 1.
I liked this movie so much, I watched it twice. Now i will admit, a huge part of this movie is just a promotion for his daughter, which is a bit much. But Josh Hartnett killed his role as this weird serial killer who is desperately trying to convince everyone he's a normal guy. He's kind of goofy. And it makes his character very likeable.
Dear law enforcement, dont tell your entire capture plans to the merch table guy
Right 😂
Don't waste your breath. In M. Night's universe, law enforcement are some of the dumbest people to ever live. The FBI lady is in their ears, the whole time, talking about "this guy is methodical, he's smart, he's gonna try anything to get out of here". And the amount of times they run into this guy in situations he shouldn't be in and just let him walk is completely ridiculous. This all would've made a lot more sense if it was an Unbreakable spinoff, and he had some sort of mind control powers
it’s a fictional movie
@@SixTHSUN63 I hope they continue that franchise. Remember that cameo in Split
@@dezfromwestthe criticism is valid tho. This is a fictional movie is supposed to be a world like ours. So it should be plausible .
So this whole debacle happened because the wife suspected that her husband might be a serial killer, but instead of calling the cops and tell them her suspicion she instead sent them to a f-ing concert...
F-ing great!
"oh... if I let the cops see this concert ticket, maybe they'll setup a sting operation at the conert with 30 thousand people involved to catch him."
yeah lady, that was clearly the optimal solution here.
@@merphul
it's actually worse...
This line of questioning reveals another plot hole. The FBI comes to the concert with 100% conviction that the serial killer is going to be there. But how did they come to that conclusion?
So I rewatched the part of the movie where the wife talked to her husband alone. Turns out she has been suspicious that her husband is a serial killer for some time because of various reasons.
So she followed him to a safe house.
Came back another day and broke in but didn't find anything incriminating.
So SHE PLANTED IN THE SAFE HOUSE A CONCERT TICKET which belongs to her husband.
SHE TORE PART OF THAT TICKET to make it look believable(that is why the FBI/police didn't know where the suspect was sitting).
She then called the police informing them that the ticket might belong to the serial killer, The Butcher.
She didn't reveal her identity in that phone call because she's afraid.
The police came to investigate the safe house and ask the neighborhood for more information.
The police got a description of a man, plus the torn ticker and nothing else.
We don't know if the police found a finger print on the ticket and matched that with what they found on the previous crime scenes.
The movie didn't even bring up any discussion about fingerprints.
So tell me... The police have been tipped by an anonymous caller. They have a torn concert ticket and a description of a man, WHAT EVIDENCE TELLS THEM THAT THE MAN WHO OWNS THIS TICKET IS THE SERIAL KILLER?
Goddd the writing is so bad it's rotten.
He hadn’t done anything to call the cops about .Imagine calling the cops on your S/O and they didn’t do shit?
@@Loch1210
I agree that the wife doesn’t have any proof that her husband is the serial killer, besides her personal suspicion. But she did suspect him enough to call the cops.
Can you explain to me what convinces the police that the serial killer is going to be in the concert just from the investigation in the safe house? All they have were 1. The concert ticket, and 2. A description of a man. This is important, I said man because at this point there is no evidence that leads to the conclusion that the serial killer was indeed in that safe house. If the police have more evidences than that, then it’s not mentioned in the movie.
I would like you to read my other comment where I explained why the police couldn’t possibly be convinced just by the evidences they obtained in that safe house.
My argument was that some authority in the police or the FBI must have issued a warrant, I don’t know which specifically maybe a search warrant or an arrest warrant for the serial killer and authorized the use of hundreds if not thousands of police officers and SWAT agents to capture him. So what are the evidences that justify the operation?
What I think should’ve happen is the wife calling the cops and telling them about her suspicion on her husband. The police would have taken the suspicion seriously and make further inquiries about him. If the suspicion was reasonable or the profiles matched then they could follow him and proceed from there.
The writers failed to deliver the necessary information to us and failed to make a coherent story. that’s why I said it’s bad writing.
@@arisamone I thought the safe house had some type of evidence but I don’t remember They had to have a warrant to do all that.Movie is suspect so the answer is probably bad writing
We were all trapped watching 2 hours of his daughter's concert.
😂😂
legit the daughter looks like a kid, the super star energy and persona isnt oozing off her
No
Ayo lmaooo
Yes 😂
the entire time i watched the movie it just felt like M Night was just doing this to industry plant his daughter lol
And her acting was more memorable than her music.
yeah just like Francis Coppola did with his daughter in Godfather 3 and she ended up being better as director than an actress
Lmao so true
@@angryox3102 are you being sarcastic? The music sounded like well-produced pop music, and she has a decent voice. Her acting was so atrocious, especially when she was supposed to be absolutely terrified that me and my fam were laughing in the cinema and doing impressions of her attempts to emote: 😕🫤🙁☹️🫤😕🙁☹️
@@DrT0705 that was poor word choice on my part, I should’ve said character instead of acting. The music was just bland pop music, in one ear and out the other.
There was a collective audible groan in my theater every time Josh Hartnett somehow escaped detection. 10/10 must see in theaters so you don’t suffer alone
That was the most fun part ! The collective "seriously !!! Again !!!!"
this movie was awful and wasn’t suspenseful at all! also his acting was horrendous
That's what makes it a fun party movie
@@BeastCoast4747 Suspense lol. 1hr into the movie I was just hoping it would end at every turn.
The smoothest brain move he did was threatening M. Night's daughter. She was also dumb for not outing him when he didn't have his phone on hand and heavily armed policemen were just 2 steps away.
By the end I was audibly saying "yeah, he just gouged your buddies eyes out, definitely taze him, don't shoot him or anything.
Alright, they FINALLY caught him..... why are they letting him touch the bike???"
Also how they made it important to point out that he was a fire fighter. Then he can't get through a bathroom door to stop Lady Raven.
If he broke the door down over a phone then that’d be the most suspicious.
Tbf he was still trying to cover it tho
:O
No but the family was already suspecting it was reaching a fever pitch and he already put the family in the bedroom and he still was struggling with the door. A fireman can get through a door in zero time
@@KnicknackCottonWolf his character did have ocd, I don’t think he’d break it down even if he could. To keep the charade going as long as possible suspicious or not.
I still can't get over bad the "twist" was, with how the wife found out about him and how he actually ate the pie. Such a tropey plot point in so many other series or movies.
If I was a serial killer, pie would most likely be my downfall.
Actually, I think him falling for the pie is one of the most believable things. I'm pretty sure he saw her put the pie onto both of their plates, and his wife took the first bite out of the pie on her plate. He had no reason to suspect his wife had access to sleeping powder. There is plenty of other very ridiculous things in the movie.
that burger king joke was spot on bro. that second half was messy af
Burger King underrated
The one time I ever got arrested The police took me to Bojangles let me place my order and paid for it
@@yungKaution100Burger King hits when you ain’t got no one in your ear telling you it’s trash
@@poliquitit Facts lol
Yall clearly have no idea what the reference is except for the OP
The moment when the movie went from the father daughter dynamic to M. Night’s daughter becoming a MAIN character was not the way to go, making a movie to promote your kid’s career is one thing but than having them tun from a “side” character to a main character when she CAN’T act whatsoever again was not the way to go…
Her "acting" was 😕🫤😕🫤😕🫤
Lady Jeneva said the exact same thing!
That livestream scene was hard to watch. If I saw a celeb doing that, I'd think it was horrible acting for a lame promotion... not panicked for her life.
Ur cringe she clearly is young and already millions of years better than u 😂 so stfu and sit back
I swear, I think I have seen her in a dhar mann show 😂
As much as I hate nepotism, this is pretty cool. He’s funding it himself so I view it differently. On the flip side he’s buying his children a really expensive LARP.
Then you could at least put her in a good movie.
I actually added "Release" to a few of my playlists. Just because she has famous parents doesnt mean she isnt talented or deserving. I feel like M Night may have been a better comic book writer.
@kyralindsey5885 it means someone who's probably better won't get the opportunity because their dad isn't a big Hollywood director.
You wanna support her that's fine but pretending like who her dad is has absolutely nothing to do with the opportunities she's given that's delusional.
Hollywood is one of the only places where "it ain't what you know it's who you know" applies 100%
@@Reese1882yw hypotheticals dont really matter on this. He knew his own daughter was an aspiring singer, so he cast her in a movie he funded himself. Cry harder
@Reese1882yw tbf to her, as long as she acknowledges that she has had more of an opportunity than other artists who dont have famous parents, is it really that bad? As long as she's kendall jenner who tried to say that she had to "work so hard" to get her modelling jobs despite the fact that shes s kardashian and her actual model expertise is majorly lacking then eh
I liked the movie up until after the concert. Then it got so silly especially when the teenage girl decided to go toe to toe with a serial killer 😂 the songs often dragged on too. But I loved the first half with the dad and daughter. I think I enjoyed it more because I was stoned
Literally same😂
Same experience
Yep this was a huge promo for his daughter and her new album smh
The movie really does completely fall off a cliff as soon as Cooper just fucking tells Lady Raven he’s the killer, with PROOF. The entire thrill of the movie, being a hunt for a criminal from the criminal’s perspective, is the uncertainty of whether or not Cooper will be caught. With this bone-headed, nonsensical tactic the movie basically locks in Cooper has no way of NOT being caught with over an hour of runtime left. Genuinely, how did he ever expect to get away with telling Raven he was the killer? She knows his name and face, and his daughter’s as well, she could have easily reported him after dropping him off even without her ridiculous plan to go to Cooper’s house. The leverage of his trapped victim is in no universe going to make her decide to never tell police about him and just let him keep murdering. And it’s not as if he can just kill a huge celebrity and her driver to keep them from telling, Cooper was obviously backstage with her and he would have been an instant top suspect.
There is no reason Cooper couldn’t have asked Raven for a ride for his daughter, or come up with any number of lies or motivators to get in the limousine, anything besides ADMITTING HIS CRIMES TO SOMEONE HE CANNOT KILL. It was a completely moronic development that ruined the tone and plot of the movie and led to the utterly fucking harebrained nonsense of Cooper somehow Houdini-ing his way out of two more scenarios in the most unbelievable ways imaginable (thank goodness he had a spare SWAT uniform to change into at his house!).
It’s a real shame because this is a super interesting and fun premise, but it’s killed by Shyamalan forcing his daughter into the spotlight and basically giving up coherence midway into the script.
I agree and from there the entire movie changed direction as well
Totally agree with you! I was really enjoying the movie, Cooper was shown not a ordinary man but the person who controls or influences others in a clever or unscrupulous way. Loved the scene he walked out room full of swat with coffee in hand and switched his body language, listening profiler conversation and smiling and dancing with his daughter all things working fine...up to the point " I'm the Butcher" you are all after me. I was like wtf!? Just happened ruined everything for me...Movie turned into a "are you kidding me" episodes! Sorry for my bad english. You explained everything perfectly.
😊
It’s like watching a lie spiral out of control. At certain points you’re almost like fuck it.
The plot twist I came up with was that the guy Cooper kidnapped was the real killer. The guy killed Cooper’s wife so Cooper tracked him down and kidnapped him, with intent to kill him out of revenge after making him suffer in the same way he made his wife and other victims.
The concert was a way to cheer his grieving daughter up, but when he got there and realized what happened, Cooper realized that he had inadvertently framed himself as the killer and had to find a way to escape before they arrested him instead.
Way better than the actual plot
The plothole being the glaring fact his wife didn’t die and isn’t dead yet it’s still better than the movie😂
He also admitted to being a serial killer but idc anything wuld be better than a predictable plot
That's good... this could have brought a moral dilemna to Lady Raven during the confrontation : Report a crime and uphold the law, or understand a man's grieving.
Something like that would've been unexpected, whereas in the movie there was no real twist as we all expected :/
the killer was the 300 Police! BLM!!
I was expecting the more predictable M. Night Shyamalan twist where the mother turns out to be an unhinged psycho that was in on the whole killing their victims thing.
My sister and I thought the entire family would be in on it. I was hoping it was really the daughter the entire time. And then I thought that vision of his mother at the end was really the FBI profiler dressed up. NOPE!
LOL so was I..
It would’ve definitely made for a better ending if the whole family was in on it. It would’ve added a lot of depth to the hallucination scenes as well. His hallucinations of his mother calling him a monster, him resisting that notion and finding out in the end he resists this because his whole family is like him. So he’s considered “the crazy one” in the family for having a conscious in the form of his mother.
Man, what a missed opportunity.
Or that one theory about the daughter being a vampire, monster, whatever and he was only killing to feed her lol
the movie was pretty shit but that would’ve defeated the entire purpose of the message. like m. night says in the vid, all of his movies revolve around the fear of the destruction of the nuclear family. it’s supposed to be about how serial killers can go unnoticed for so long by even their closest friends and family, because they’re master manipulators. if the whole family is in on the murders, the whole “double life” angle is lost.
The movie is a two hour promo for her music.
Forgot every song
Nepotism
@@TannerGoated This isn't really bad nepotism tbh. He kinda funds his own stuff, so it's whatever.
I only went because of Josh Hartnett, but omg...the movie was a drag. I was hoping there'd be more "thrill" from beyond the trailer spoiler that he was the villain. The thrill never came.
I was still happy to see Josh. And Kid Cudi was so fun lol
Couldn’t agree more. I also went only because of Josh Hartnett lmao and he was the only reason I was entertained or paying attention during any of it
Cudi was weird
@@Playaaa0he was funny asl, laugh a little
Yep. The trailers really spoiled most of the movie
@@itsnick5082 the trailer really hyped the movie because most people were thinking if that was the twist shown beforehand, there must be an AMAZING twist or double-bluff coming. How wrong we were 😭
Cooper was played well by Josh Hartnett, but was written with some crazy plot armor. How did he go behind the counter of the burger place in full view of the customers and employees, pick up two full bottles of oil which are also in blatent open view, put them in the fryer without the oil in the fryer overflowing, turn the fryer up, and then walk out without a single person seeing him do all of this? Theres a million security cameras and he wasnt wearing any kind of disguise. Obviously, in real life, the manager at the burger place or the cops/fbi would go and look at the security footage to see how two full unopened bottles of oil ended up in the fryer, or at the very least ask around if anyone saw anything, which several people should have considering the fryer was right behind the counter. Especially considering the fbi lady said the butcher would use chaos as a distraction. Yet after this very chaotic distraction, not a sinlge person goes to look at the security footage??
Also how did Josh Hartnett know how the break room was laid out where the swat team was meeting? As he's walking through the group of swat, he says he's getting some coffee. But there's no way he could just know there's a coffee machine around the corner and through the group of swat. He physically couldn't see it to know it's there. Then the one swat dude asks where they keep the sugar, and Cooper just knew there was a full carafe of sugar in the first cabinet he opens? He even calls it his own stash before he gets it, like he somehow just magically knew it would be there. I genuinely thought they might reveal later in the movie that Cooper had been to the stadium before, like maybe he had somehow heard there would be a trap, so he had broken in to set up certain contingincies throughout the stadium well before the date of the concert that would help him get out without detection or pose as an employee of the stadium by knowing the layout ahead of time
The last one that stood out to me was the thing with the bike near the end, when hes being arrested and they bring him out of his house and he stops and turns towards his daughter's bike, picks it up, and snaps the wheel spoke off without anyone noticing. No police or swat in real life would ever in a million years let a dangerous criminal who has done what Cooper had done just stop to pick up a bike that's laid down. They also wouldnt cuff him with his hands in front of him. They would cuff his hands behind him and march him straight to the truck, making no stops and giving him no chances to run away or grab anything he could use as a weapon or distraction. Its like this movie takes place in an alternate universe where police/swat/fbi are all dumb and are just awful at their jobs
A lot of what he gets away with stems from the fact that he knows how to manipulate his environment because he's very aware of it and he knows that people aren't really paying attention to anything but themselves. In a lot of the scenes you can see how he's really just bullshitting his way through things, if it works great but if it doesn't he comes up with another plan, like the breakroom scene.. some of the things were obvious because of the environment, like he knew there was coffee because its a breakroom.. the cabinet below would be an obvious place to look for sugar...he uses his situational awareness to his advantage... in the end scene he knows that they know he has ocd so he uses that to be able to fiddle with the bicycle and they let him because the profiler, aware of his condition, okays it. The final scene is really the best one because it's that laugh that he lets out that really shows you how even he cant believe he keeps getting away with this shit
well said
@@kcb342 lol bullshit. When he grabs the police radio any of the 20 cops could have been looking his way. Thats just one of many stupid things that happen.
@@digital2701361 yeah the movie was mostly stupid but I could still see a lot of that happening in real life coz people are pretty stupid
Inreal life the cameras can show the path you take before you commit the action idk what movie magic goes as far to show but that’s subjective reality cameras can track movement before and afterwards of you doing the action and even freeze frame and crop it automatically 😅
to me, all of his movies have some level of goofyness to it, including the best ones like the sixth sense and split. sometimes it works, most times it doesn't but it's definitely one of m. night's trademarks.
I guess his movies are the type where you go and laugh at it with friends.
Haha, dumb people here dumb people there. How can they be so dumb?
Since Signs, it didn’t work until he made Split. The Visit was okay but the goofiness was wayyyy too much. But, he’s been back harder than ever with the goofiness.
@@ComedyBros5 some people like it.
@@ComedyBros5
The Visit was The Godfather compared to his four most recent turkeys. 😖
@@GizmoBeach Hahaha, you ain't wrong.
I just cant stop laughing through the whole film. Cooper is only getting away with this because everyone else in the film are idiots!! 😂
The thing is, you know Cooper is the serial killer. Of course, there are things such as the T-shirt clerk telling him which es obviously dumb but acting like there wasn’t much intelligence needed from him is silly.
Funny enough thats how a lot of killers get away at first
That is also idea for many movie cliche same with the hero movies.
Isn't that how the Trump shooter got his shots off? By everyone being idiots? Truth is stranger than fiction
Isn't that how the Trump shooter got his shots off? Everyone being idiots? Truth is stranger than fiction
It would have been a better twist if the FBI Behavioural Analyst turned out to be his mom!!
This is what I thought was going to happen and when it didn't I was disappointed
@@Anw4rr10r Same
I honestly thought that was going to be the twist
I watched the film with captions, you know what I'm thinking?... Yes, Its his mom
@@Anw4rr10rSame
What really gets me is u would think they would finally catch him after the entire movie is about that but the fact he gets away at the end is insane 😂
M. Night Shyamalan humming the beat of Not Like Us is something i didn’t know i needed ngl
Is that in the video?
We don’t need it.
They should have made the entire movie happening in the stadium. The climax should have been him and his daughter walking away from the concert
Yeah with the twist that he was the butcher being a secret.
The movie really lost all momentum when they left the venue.
Judging from the last few movies he's worked on, he needs to get his family off these projects lol
😂😂😂
Lmao!
I was surprised that the movie doesn't have that signature shamalamalan twist.
I honestly thought they were going to reveal that the wife is the actual master mind LOL
When she was boiling water or something in the kitchen? I thought the same @@nelly2911
I thought there would be a twist with aliens or somehow the music was hypnotizing fans to commit murder, but nope lmao 😅.
For one second I thought the FBI lady was his mom and it would have been a great twist(even tho it wouldn't have made sense)
Plus thanks to the trailer they just threw away "he is the serial killer they have been looking for" twist, it would have been kinda mind blowing.
Once they left the venue it went aaaalllll down hill
M Night's latest twist: what if the movie was bad?
hey i don't know how he is still making films. the fact that it's a world wide release proves that basically any movie can make back its profit as the market really is so big.
not bad but MID
What if I stop giving a fuck and just add my kids I’m a goat right they won’t get mad😂😂😂😂😂
Or just never ended 😂😂
That's the twist of almost all his films
a good twist in the movie would of been if he wasnt actually the butcher and they just happened to catch another serial killer that happened to be at the concert also and they just stumbled to catch him instead.
haha that would have been great!
When he got tased i fully expected it to reveal this was apart of the unbreakable universe
The Taser magically erases the effects of drugs.
Or the opposite.
He didn't suffer too much from the tasers thanks to the drug
Also the clip of the person being kidnapped into the van was full force non-human strength. Wtf. I’d feel so much better with the $20 I just spent to watch this is it did tie into one of M’s other movies
@@jackjoans340 I'm sure it is. Sure Night kept it secret. Too much ester eggs from the Eastrail #177 trilogy and other of his movies (The strength of Cooper like David/Kevin, the magic/intuition/manipulation he use to escape, the lion statue in the park like at the end of split, the power of Lady Raven to unlock Cooper's Phone with her finger, her breathing problem like Morgan in Signs, she calms and manipulates people like Casey, her slow escape from Cooper's car like Casey, the way the profiler take the knife from the floor like in The Happening....)
And notice that TRAP in reverse is PART, like SPLIT in pieces, or a BROKEN GLASS
Yessss!!!! Me too!!!
The plot twist is that M. Night's daughter takes over the film
The josh and cudi being friends was super wholesome
So good to see Josh Hartnett again! Always loved him
this was a good reversal for him, he's always been the affable protagonist. I really wish he was in more stuff, he's always been one of my favorites!
Agreed! So glad he's back
He and the actress playing his daughter are the only good things in this atrocious movie.
the daughter running up to her dad after learning he is a killer is SO INSANE
My favorite part is when he says “never let the two lives touch” to explain why he’s ill prepared for escape at his house - just to have a secret tunnel in his house
I think that for him meant that he never thought about how a victim could escape from his house, but the tunnel is for himself if he ever gets caught. like he wouldn't be murdering/torturing anyone in his own house but he could escape without detection. still a bad movie lol but that's what I thought he meant
his daughter is at least a good singer; but that second half was toughhhhh
The premise was so interesting, but as soon as people knew this was directed by Shyamalan, we ALL knew it was going to be a freaking trap. Ironically.
He has very good ideas, he never gets to find them a good climax and therefore, a good ending.
His first films were so much better, idk what happened.
He has to meta the audiences expectations of every moment of the film.
Even the trailer giving away the plot has to be subverted by a second half that takes place outside the stadium and there are like 5 twists, each making less and less actual sense but giving you a burst of OMG in the moment.
My hot take is that this is a superbly shot and acted B movie that is fun and reminds me of 80s and 90s action suspense.
Why would the random t-shirt vendor know about a secret FBI sting? I haven’t seen this, so maybe someone can make it make sense. Surely he could have seen some officers or whatever, but knowing it was a stakeout for the Butcher seems like a lot of info for a random guy to have. No? “A super duper secret mission”… ?
Also, why is the random Tshirt vendor spilling the secret to someone who is a potential suspect? Wasn't the whole sting put in place to catch the serial killer who fit Cooper's profile? Why are we telling any of the concert go-ers about the super duper secret mission?
And I'm sorry if all of this has been answered in the movie, I haven't seen it 😅
They told all employees about the mission and gave them and ID card and a secret word they had to tell officers in case they had to go somewhere and were seen as suspects by other officers. In this review you can see MC got lucky the uniform he stole from one of the workers had the ID.
@@sushmitaraodesaraju6330 The excuse was that this guy was selling tshirts of lady raven, MC goes there with his daughter to get one but they only have one left. Another girl rudely says she's been there all day so she deserves it. MC tells his daughter she should let her have it and comforts her saying they'll get one some other day. The guy selling tshirts sees this and tells him he understands, he's a good dad, he'll get them another tshirt if they comeback later. Then they meet like twice more I think and since they become friendly they talk about what's going on, etc
@@Nara-fd7wt Ah thanks for explaining! Sounds like a plot that would only work if most of the people in the movie were stupid 😅
@@Nara-fd7wt okay. Still seems a bit far-fetched, but I guess movie’s gotta movie
honestly it was fun watching it in theaters, my audience had some pretty funny reactions, such as when they showed the guy getting snatched into the van. That got a laugh from everyone because it did look pretty goofy. I would say its a great watch as long as you have others to watch it with haha
Yes exactly! Mine too! We all had so much fun
I liked this movie despite it’s many flaws. I saw a theory that the dad had Unbreakable/ Split type powers. Might be a reach, but when I watch it again I’m watching it with that perspective.
I think ppl want it to be better than it really is, try to rationalise what they had seen.
I'm a M Night Shyamalan fan, but even this & the knock at the cabin was subpar....man lost his mojo after "Glass"
Knock at the cabin was fun, this movie too
I really expected to hate every second of this and I actually was pleasantly surprised, i love Josh hartnett so that's definitely why I bought in fully to the madness. But I think it just reminds me of older action suspense movies where the audience wasn't used to nit picking every plot hole and detail and was just along for the ride. This is a movie I don't think I could watch a second time though, it's really just keeps you guessing, but upon reflection none of it makes any damn sense!
I mean I fully expected him to escape at the end, like an 80s horror villian, and it delivers! A fun ride and keeps my faith in these auteurs.
In reality james mcavoy and samuel out on different sets they dont want no parts of lil princess project
I loved it! It was so much fun
I watched Trap twice and enjoyed it. Also, the songs are nicely written. Maybe that’s because I’ve had no expectations from this movie. Also, I liked his “Servant” series and the fact that he created a superhero universe for himself. Can’t wait to see Trap being a story of another villain from the Unbreakable universe.
Yeah servant was fire
There should have been at least a hint to tie this to the split universe. I didn’t see shit.
@@jackjoans340 Cooper is kinda strong, specialy when he pulls the guy into the van. Motherfucker lifted him up of the ground like a ragdoll. Seemed so weird and unreal that i laughed out loud.
I loved Trap as well, it was so much fun. Also loved Servant, such a fantastic show
A nice plot twist would be if his wife was the serial killer and she essentially was trying to frame him, this would only require minor changes to the script. But i will say that Syamalan's movies are imaginative but they tend to fall flat at some point.
He's got great ideas but his problem is he does the writing himself. He desperately needs writers to cogently realise those ideas.
@@adamfernandes4312 I agree 100%
If only my dad was a C- movie director, and not a UPS man....
Shyamalans films are a lot of things, but they're definitely not c movies lol
Yo those UPS drivers have sick retirements
UPS workers do a lot more for your community than the c- movie director 😭😂
Ikr, I was telling my husband I feel bad I'm not able to give my kids this level of nepotism. Feelsbadman.
I know this is going to sound really bad, but I was so mad when the concession stand worker looks at the fry vat and puts her face right up to it while the glass bottles were floating in there! I was like, girl! Step away from the fry vat once you realize what it is! Step far away and warn everyone else!
😂 that would ruin the absurdity of the plot.
M Night hustling and making money with self-funding is impressive, all these films post The Visit made profit
Indeed. Trap's relative success means it can cover for his daughter's film bombing earlier this year.
It's mind-boggling because they've all been mediocre (aside from Split).
@@ComedyBros5because he’s hustling instead of making art
If you keep everything insourced it’s cheaper as well as not having to sell your product outside of your own brand
my theater was actually cackling from how bad this was lol
One of the most unserious movies I’ve seen this year but I need them to make 2 more to be full goofy
I went in with low expectations but still had a good time! The ending was a little clunky and kinda took me out a bit but I still thought it was fun watch! And I actually liked his daughter’s music in this lol
Dude I loved this movie, my expectations were on the floor but I feel like it delivered.
Me tooooo
Same
It was different and fun
Same
It was fun, a bit camp, and had some good shots. Better than phase 4 Marvel.
My only issue with the first half was that the concert started at like 10am. It was broad daylight until well after the concert was over.
Trap, it’s Nepotism the movie. The scene where M.Night talk about LadyRaven and how she’s “so brave of her” in his cameo had me rolling my eyes so hard.
I loved this movie! I thought it was goofy and fun and I didn’t mind the twists and turns. The second half was fine to me
"m night trapped us into this to show us her daughter's mixtapes"
The movie would have worked it was 100% in the concert with hutcherson narrowly escaping rather then the thing we see later. Plus many were complaining that josh as the butcher was revealed in the trailer so the movie just doesnt care about the reveal that he is the butcher.
And then the insta live thing was actually smart but i was bored out of it. Well tbh i would love the twist that the FBI leader was the butcher's mom and she wad trying to stop him but i know why that wouldn't be possible.
And now i dont want the sequel.
His daughter is Saleka? She’s a great singer all the songs she did for Servant were good.
I legit did not know she was his daughter and I thought she was a fantastic actor, she kinda stole the movie. But go off internet!
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It would have been so much fun if the real twist was that he was just helping his wife and his wife is the real butcher!
I loved the movie. Almost all of Knight's movies gets odd flak. He just has to be perfect every time it seems. Yet, he's one of the only directors that has the balls to try different things. He breaks away from the genre norms repeatedly. I look forward to his movies because I can't wait to see where he goes next. To me, a lot of his criticism comes from those used to the horror conditioning they're used to.
3:25 i don't like the movie but I don't agree with you on that point. if the police were there before it would raise his alarms and probably would scare him away that's why they arrived later
I loved it
So campy, so cringe, it was super fun. Did not go into with a serious attitude so mostly enjoyed it
What can I say about this movie that hasn’t been said about paint drying?
My guy, where is Longlegs! I need papa to explain it to me.
Please explain soon! I’m to scared to actually watch it 😭
Same that movie was nuts!
Long legs was a solid horror film
Longlegs wasn’t good
@@iselamgDon’t be, shit was middling
I actually enjoyed this and was kinda pissed that his daughter's music was kinda good. I wanted to crap all over a nepo project but think I smiled during the entire movie.
This movie is for Shyamalan equivalent of After Earth for Will & Jaden Smith.
I mean... he directed that movie too so I'm not sure what you mean.
@@shirosai615 A vehicle to introduce his child's "Art" to main stream. You know, nepotism!
Jaden can actually act.
@@WilliamsPinch Jaden can't even voice act!
At one point I thought the twist was that the merch guy and the uncle getting Cooper backstage was all part of the FBI profiler's plan because it was all just so absurd and contrived! This movie was so close to being a camp classic if it would have been a bit more self-aware.
Don't forget josh harnett stars in of the best vampire movies of all time, 30 days of night. Just scary vampires trying to take over a town nothing more.
Nightmare fuel
M night is like the Michael Scott of filmmakers - unapologetically positive but often lacking direction
I think im like the only person who low key really liked the movie. Yea it got boring in the middle of the movie but I really feel like the start and end of the movie really grabbed me in.
Literally just saw this movie an hour ago and I feel the same; first half was amazing. Definitely felt like a thriller. Loved the music tone how everything did match each scene or each emotion Cooper went through. Definitely enjoyed seeing Russ! Anyone from Jersey I root for! I didn’t like that cooper was always getting lucky!! It felt a tad lazy. Josh is such a good actor , the way he maneuvered in each scene, I felt like I was the butcher with him! I also enjoyed Jamie the tshirt attendee. I thought that was a very real character because I know I can fangirl over just about anything and I liked the call back. The second half fell apart for me. The live stream was just so lazy. I was thinking of it as if this was Beyoncé. There is just no way. I definitely enjoyed the very end when he was in the swat truck. The manic laughing and his face, Josh really does it sell it to the very end
2:06 the only good thing about this movie is that it shows how society idolizes famous people
Certain scenes were shot like rpg conversations.
He got hooked up with sooo many lucky coincidences that I was kind of expecting a supernatural twist where he’s literally serving a demon or some shit that’s helping him out with everything
I actually liked this movie. I wasn't expecting him to give me something great, I was expecting a twisty, illogical convoluted mess.
1:30 exactly, the moment she got into their house....i got soooo MAD
I was genuinely screaming inside when Lady Raven decided to go live and not call the cops to go to the house and do the livestream message at the same time while she's in the bathroom and don't even get me started on how slow the SWAT team took to raid the house while Cooper was still inside washing the damn dishes. You know for being a serial killer, he's pretty terrible at it as he's basically allowed the same victim to escape his grasp TWICE!
17:10 mark, Trap and The Visit seem like they could be connected.. There’s always a M. Knight Shyamalan twist.
You gotta admit it was pretty wild when Bruce Willis turned into 1990s Haley Joel Osment and ended the movie with 'I see a sequel' and gave the camera a cheeky lil wink. Wasn't expecting that.
EDIT: Misspelled movie.
Not amy shumer jr 😂 11:28
I had to rewind that part LOL
Solid burn
M Night Shyamalan pushed my grandma down the stairs
I absolutely loved it, had so much fun with it. It was one of my favourite movies this year. If that's goofy? Fine. Bring it.
I thought the acting was terrible and the situations were so unbelievable It made me so angry lol
This movie sounds incredibly ridiculous.
The twist is obvious just from the design of the movie poster. What I thought was going to be the twist is that he's a "retired serial killer" but there's an new serial killer in the audience who hunts down teenage girls and his daughter is a target. He has to get to the killer before he gets to her and he can't alert police because he might give himself away that he has bodies he's responsible for. So he's an "inactive" killer hunting down an "active" killer in a stadium while police are profiling everyone. Idk, I kind of wanted it to be like that.
I was vibing till the third trap, then the fourth one i was livid. 12:49 oh yeah, this freaky ahh scene 😅 you're not my nana.
how people don’t get the fun in this movie is beyond us. Just a few examples: 20,000 fans, 3,000 men and Dr Grant has dossiers on all of them. 😅 SWAT leader describes last victim, went to school to be a teacher, has a 2 yr old kid, takes care of his elderly parents and was voted teacher of the year 😂 Cooper describes Spencer to Lady Raven: his name is Spencer, he’s 22 and is into sustainable agriculture 😅 The dialogue is high camp-and Hartnett kills the role tongue in cheek and over the the top 😊 we love it!
Mid-Night Shaymalan, that’s his new name
As an indian I just call him by his real name "Manoj" an average name for an average director. And still thinks it's funny
A father makes the most expensive audition tape in history. That's Trap, and it's handled with all the subtlety of a jackhammer. (Bonus: his daughter is a TEEEERRRRRRRIIIIBLE actress.)
Sadly lol
Product or daughter replacement. I don’t care I enjoyed it. Not the best but not the worst. Enjoyable to the end
Say what you will trap was really good when you sit through 15 minutes of borderlands and decide to see trap instead
They set the bar so low
You kinda forgot to mention how unintentionally funny this movie is like I don't think I have seen many Adam Sandler Film where I genuinely laughed more. It's an incredibly flawed film with huge plot holes at its core but I had a great time watching it with a buddy and that was exactly what I hoped for🤷🏽♂️
That Trap door bit with Russ is hilarious
IT FEELS AWKWARD BEING THIS EARLY 😭
it was goofy, but i loved it. josh hartnett was the best. and he was really hot. ZADDY!
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Hubs and I have been reading reviews and were surprised to find how many negative ones there are. Even you seem to have lost your train of thought when you loved the first half and dissed the second. (Actually we looked at it as 3 Acts). I’ll agree with you that when Saleka’s role was expanded, she flattened the tension instead of building on it. But when she took a back seat, the plot tightened up again. Hey. Everything you point out in the first half of your review needs to be seen the same way in the second half. Same perspective is required! The premise is preposterous! Absurd! The doting dad is a serial killer with mommy issues! There are a hundred improbabilities! Hartnett slides from endearing to menacing with tongue in cheek and deadpan delivery. His over the top expressions are wonderful. If you buy into the comic underpinning of the plot I think you’ll see the beauty of this film. Everything about this new M Night Experience is a hoot! The ironies, the double entendres, even the poignancy of the family relationships are delightful. Hartnett said when shooting some scenes Night burst out laughing. Thought they were hilarious. And he said he himself had great fun playing the split personality in high camp. He read up on psychopathy to get underneath the character’s mindset. We watched the movie twice in the theater. The second time to better appreciate all the flavors in the cake (or pie 😅). Yesterday we streamed it. We had such FUN with this movie! Today hubs found it on VOD and we bought it for posterity 😂 He is a huge fan and has seen all Night’s films. I dipped in and out after The Sixth Sense. But this one is def a winner. We give it 4*. Saleka took off the extra star. 🫤
One cool aspect of the movie is I used to work at the hotel in the stadium where the movie was shot (Skydome Hotel) and there's a shot in the movie showing the spot where I had a million smoke breaks lol.
This movie is basically a trick by M Night to FORCED the audience to listen to his daughter music lol
Half expected him to run into Bruce Willis
Im going to come out the gate and say im one of the weirdos. That liked the last half more than the first,i know i dont get it either 😂. But the premise part felt more like a drag,than it should of because that was what the movie was about! Lol I also seperate split from most of his other newer movies because its the best from his newer ones. In my opinion anyway,i also think the visit was good. But yeah learning all this family backstory did make me look at trap differently. I also thought dude was from the unbreakable universe after tanking getting tazed. Which i hope not because Mr.Glass was terrible.
One thing that really annoyed me was how was there so many people walking around the stadium during the concert, like do they all not wanna watch what they paid for
M night has become too focused on making his creations into family business and advertising. A whole movie basically promoting your daughters music with a slight plot in the the background lol
He's a discount Adam Sandler at this point.
Goofy, but.... Were you not entertained? I certainly was! Especially with people I met in a place I visit often!
The movie was super fun, goofyness and all. I'm glad I watched in theater with other people because everyone else was laughing by the end and i love that
Bruh im fucking with M Night and him putting his family on . Beautiful . I went in expecting this to be bad but it was interesting. Not too good cos i didnt get why raven goes on live and not just ask for help for herself as well. The limo escape , but it was worth my time. The Raven girl acts how ill expect ariana grande to act. Wish she had more security detail with her whilst she was with cooper.
But Ultimately , beautiful to see M night happy and doing this with his daughters. I expect a banger soon , at least 1.
I love that Lady in the Water doesn't even exist to him
I liked this movie so much, I watched it twice. Now i will admit, a huge part of this movie is just a promotion for his daughter, which is a bit much. But Josh Hartnett killed his role as this weird serial killer who is desperately trying to convince everyone he's a normal guy. He's kind of goofy. And it makes his character very likeable.