like I actually can't believed that happened...to think so highly of yourself that your offended someone wasn't lusting after you and then talk about it like your some type of victim is CRAZY behavior
okay okay I forgot about Oak Bluffs and allat🤣 but it's still characterized as a very white place in my mind because of it's history and who it's named after and Massachusetts not being the first state that comes to mind when you think of diversity (75% white)
I was in college when Girls came out, and I genuinely couldn't finish the first episode. I was estranged from my abusive parents and working my hands to the bone between a very tough engineering major and bartending. I couldn't find humor in Hannah being devastated at being cut off at 24 when I'd been struggling on my own since I was 17. At the risk of making assumptions about you, I wonder if, as often happens, the line between who found the show relatable was characterized as being a race divide, when really it was a class divide. The show was very white, and I am white, but there was nothing about it that looked like my life. I don't mean this as criticism, just musing. This is the first video I've seen of yours, and I enjoyed your thoughtful commentary.
great point, and I agree!! I can definitely see class divide playing a larger part in relatability of the show. the show doesn't look like my life as I'm younger than most of the Girls (except Shoshanna) at the start of the show, I am FRESHLY (May 2024) out of college, and am lucky enough to have a (chaotically) familial home to fall back on as I plan my next moves and don't have the resources to rush off to an expensive city with family supporting me financially. I think what I find most relatable abut the show is the spot on depiction of the various emotions that lead to consequential decisions of someone who is confused, scared, and unsure of themselves and their place in the world (literally the definition of your 20s)
I thought I couldn't relate to Girls because I'm a Gen X-er, but I soon realized I couldn't relate because I wasn't coddled and spoiled by mommy and daddy. I moved out at 18. I worked all during college. I've dealt with difficult financial times without a great deal of help from my parents and any compassion and understanding.
@@Riki-G Totally get what you're saying, and I didn't mean that I believe you're ultra wealthy or living a cool, NYC dream life. But there is also a class divide in terms of comfortably having your needs met vs struggling severely. It's hard to explain the fundamental difference in worldview between people who have financial security (and family who love them) vs people who don't. Most young people are broke, but being poor is so different. I'm upper middle class now as an engineer and I've had maaaany years of therapy. I probably wouldn't find Girls outright triggering anymore, but I probably still wouldn't "get" it.
I'm about 5 years older than Lena Dunham and I just never liked her. I never watched Girls, didn't know much about her, I just didn't like her. Then her book came out and between the things she confessed to in her own book, finding out her use of derogatory language and defense of being "ironic" when slanging slurs, and finally her publicly slamming someone coming out with SA allegations... honestly she just confirmed the weird bias I had against her.
The industry is amazing!! It is sometimes a little technical with its financial jargon (unsure if that is up your alley), but it is amazing in Season 3, where the finale aired last night. It gets better; it has a slowish start, but it picks up at the end of season 1, and by season 3, it evolves from skins meets finance to a suspenseful and well-written show. I would give it a try!
I could only bear Shoshannah. She seemed sweet if a bit dorky. And I read an interview with Jemima Kirke in "Bust" magazine. She came across completely loathsome, very full of herself.
Clack, pleh, bah Lena’s fakery was obvious to anyone with eyes 👀 Feminist. Try Riley Gaines, American hero. She wouldn’t say it but she is a modern day feminist.
I thought the coworker her did her eyebrows in season 1 was Hispanic. I’m not saying it’s enough representation by any means. But you kept repeating that an ethnic woman does not have a speaking role until season 3 which just isn’t true. Plus there was Soo Jin in season 2 with the rose water ice cream. Again, not enough. But also don’t discount those roles.
Are you saying black people don’t have generational wealth in nyc? some do you just don’t know about them maybe. Girls is a show from someone’s life perspective, it’s not going to represent all girls of this age. Not everything needs to be a representation for all walks of life all the time I don’t think the show was trying to do this anyway.
will get backlash for this but the hate she received for "raping" her sibling was partial asl. They were both little kids, there was no sensual motivation and no lasting trauma (that we know of). they are close and follow each other via social media. like ppl literally took the opportunity to hold something else over her head due to a already poor reputation.
I see where you are coming from, but I would say the water is very murky when it comes to these topics. I think it's not completely valid to simply play off any possible instances of "lasting" trauma simply because that trauma doesn't "show". as for them still being close, I would say we have the same ignorance as we do about her personal life, many people can shut down their own emotions towards a family member because it almost always will impact the family as a unit. Not that I believe that Lena is some rapist running around, but I think it can very possibly affected her sister and I personally don't find that sort of logic productive. At the end of the day, we don't know shit about that situation, I do hope that she asked her sister to publish that story at the very least.
I really think it just depends on who is interpreting the situation because I have seen takes from both sides and there is even an article of children psychologists defending her so...different strokes for different folks 🤷🏾♀️
and what is the “other side” that you speak of? because I can assure you it’s not any actual victims of @ssault. It was a curious moment if you’ve read the chapter and her sibling supported the release. Like if ppl don’t like her then whatever but they’ll bash those who defend it for just calling it for what it is.
Yes of course sometimes children do things like that out of curiosity and/or it’s indicative of a larger problem. My issue was more of how she described the situation. Like it was a silly and cute, yet deeply manipulative action on her part. The way she wrote it made the whole issue more creepy to me.
As a CoCSA survivor, I don't think she's completely at fault there, because stuff like that's usually, but not always, indicative of abuse from an adult/older teenager. I just really hate how she wrote about it, I get everyone processes stuff differently, but to play it off as a joke, and the language she uses in that passage regarding her sister, is gross af
I always wondered who lena dunham was and why ppl hated her and now i do, so thanks!
lol yesss this is why I made the video cuz I always heard her name but didn't know who she was or why people hated her🤣
Lena Dunham condones or downplays literal SA a lot of the times, so that's why I dislike her so much lmao
No wonder she was huge on Red Scare (though they often fatshamed her in repeated segments)
Her parents got her student "films" into museums, so yeah, strings were pulled.
I've heard about her, but I never liked she got bodyshame. At the end of the day we should judge people based of their actions not looks
I agree!!
Lena is hugely self-absorbed but not very self-aware.
Omg I forgot about the Odell Beckham Jr thing. She took personalizing and projection to a whole other level…
like I actually can't believed that happened...to think so highly of yourself that your offended someone wasn't lusting after you and then talk about it like your some type of victim is CRAZY behavior
martha's vineyard ?! not the historically black art district? lmaooo but fr great video!
okay okay I forgot about Oak Bluffs and allat🤣 but it's still characterized as a very white place in my mind because of it's history and who it's named after and Massachusetts not being the first state that comes to mind when you think of diversity (75% white)
As a person from Iowa, huge amount of respect to you for showing students at an Iowa football game, rather than a corn field.
I was in college when Girls came out, and I genuinely couldn't finish the first episode. I was estranged from my abusive parents and working my hands to the bone between a very tough engineering major and bartending. I couldn't find humor in Hannah being devastated at being cut off at 24 when I'd been struggling on my own since I was 17.
At the risk of making assumptions about you, I wonder if, as often happens, the line between who found the show relatable was characterized as being a race divide, when really it was a class divide. The show was very white, and I am white, but there was nothing about it that looked like my life.
I don't mean this as criticism, just musing. This is the first video I've seen of yours, and I enjoyed your thoughtful commentary.
great point, and I agree!! I can definitely see class divide playing a larger part in relatability of the show. the show doesn't look like my life as I'm younger than most of the Girls (except Shoshanna) at the start of the show, I am FRESHLY (May 2024) out of college, and am lucky enough to have a (chaotically) familial home to fall back on as I plan my next moves and don't have the resources to rush off to an expensive city with family supporting me financially. I think what I find most relatable abut the show is the spot on depiction of the various emotions that lead to consequential decisions of someone who is confused, scared, and unsure of themselves and their place in the world (literally the definition of your 20s)
I thought I couldn't relate to Girls because I'm a Gen X-er, but I soon realized I couldn't relate because I wasn't coddled and spoiled by mommy and daddy. I moved out at 18. I worked all during college. I've dealt with difficult financial times without a great deal of help from my parents and any compassion and understanding.
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@@Riki-G Totally get what you're saying, and I didn't mean that I believe you're ultra wealthy or living a cool, NYC dream life. But there is also a class divide in terms of comfortably having your needs met vs struggling severely. It's hard to explain the fundamental difference in worldview between people who have financial security (and family who love them) vs people who don't. Most young people are broke, but being poor is so different.
I'm upper middle class now as an engineer and I've had maaaany years of therapy. I probably wouldn't find Girls outright triggering anymore, but I probably still wouldn't "get" it.
I'm about 5 years older than Lena Dunham and I just never liked her. I never watched Girls, didn't know much about her, I just didn't like her. Then her book came out and between the things she confessed to in her own book, finding out her use of derogatory language and defense of being "ironic" when slanging slurs, and finally her publicly slamming someone coming out with SA allegations... honestly she just confirmed the weird bias I had against her.
The industry is amazing!! It is sometimes a little technical with its financial jargon (unsure if that is up your alley), but it is amazing in Season 3, where the finale aired last night. It gets better; it has a slowish start, but it picks up at the end of season 1, and by season 3, it evolves from skins meets finance to a suspenseful and well-written show. I would give it a try!
I could only bear Shoshannah. She seemed sweet if a bit dorky. And I read an interview with Jemima Kirke in "Bust" magazine. She came across completely loathsome, very full of herself.
yes I love how dorky and sweet Shoshannah is she is the most tolerable out of all of them. I'm not surprised about this Jemima Kirk info lmao
I have was drawn to this show, yet I found these characters so unrelatable. Frustrating
for the most part, they are very annoying characters🤣
This is the first video I've seen of yours - love your way of speaking ! subscribed :-)
aww thanks so much!! I appreciate it
Clack, pleh, bah Lena’s fakery was obvious to anyone with eyes 👀
Feminist. Try Riley Gaines, American hero. She wouldn’t say it but she is a modern day feminist.
I thought the coworker her did her eyebrows in season 1 was Hispanic. I’m not saying it’s enough representation by any means. But you kept repeating that an ethnic woman does not have a speaking role until season 3 which just isn’t true. Plus there was Soo Jin in season 2 with the rose water ice cream. Again, not enough. But also don’t discount those roles.
16:00 she's acted exactly like hannah 💀💀💀
8:05 I don't think that is true...what about the secretaries in that one episode with the touchy boss?
omg your right, I think they were both of hispanic or latin ancestry. my bad but point hopefully still stands
finally ur back!!
😀😀😀
Are you saying black people don’t have generational wealth in nyc? some do you just don’t know about them maybe. Girls is a show from someone’s life perspective, it’s not going to represent all girls of this age. Not everything needs to be a representation for all walks of life all the time I don’t think the show was trying to do this anyway.
‘Some do you just don’t know about them maybe’
Melissa. Shut up.
20 minutes of commentary and that’s your takeaway?
Great video! Great perspective! I have subscribed, keep up the good work ❤
thanks so much!!
First time I see one of your videos, I love your energy. Greetings from Costa Rica!
aww thanks so much for watching! shoutout to Costa Rica!! 🇨🇷
Once I heard what she did to her sister I hopped on that hate train
did I know who she is? no
YAYY, ur back!!
will get backlash for this but the hate she received for "raping" her sibling was partial asl. They were both little kids, there was no sensual motivation and no lasting trauma (that we know of). they are close and follow each other via social media. like ppl literally took the opportunity to hold something else over her head due to a already poor reputation.
I see where you are coming from, but I would say the water is very murky when it comes to these topics. I think it's not completely valid to simply play off any possible instances of "lasting" trauma simply because that trauma doesn't "show". as for them still being close, I would say we have the same ignorance as we do about her personal life, many people can shut down their own emotions towards a family member because it almost always will impact the family as a unit. Not that I believe that Lena is some rapist running around, but I think it can very possibly affected her sister and I personally don't find that sort of logic productive. At the end of the day, we don't know shit about that situation, I do hope that she asked her sister to publish that story at the very least.
I really think it just depends on who is interpreting the situation because I have seen takes from both sides and there is even an article of children psychologists defending her so...different strokes for different folks 🤷🏾♀️
and what is the “other side” that you speak of? because I can assure you it’s not any actual victims of @ssault. It was a curious moment if you’ve read the chapter and her sibling supported the release. Like if ppl don’t like her then whatever but they’ll bash those who defend it for just calling it for what it is.
Yes of course sometimes children do things like that out of curiosity and/or it’s indicative of a larger problem. My issue was more of how she described the situation. Like it was a silly and cute, yet deeply manipulative action on her part. The way she wrote it made the whole issue more creepy to me.
As a CoCSA survivor, I don't think she's completely at fault there, because stuff like that's usually, but not always, indicative of abuse from an adult/older teenager. I just really hate how she wrote about it, I get everyone processes stuff differently, but to play it off as a joke, and the language she uses in that passage regarding her sister, is gross af