Mustang Dark Horse: as Fun as the Shelby GT350? - The Smoking Tire

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  • @DaveKootchie
    @DaveKootchie Год назад +103

    The tire marks at 5:50 mean someone had a really bad day

    • @Ar1AnX1x
      @Ar1AnX1x Год назад +36

      maybe there's an invisible entrace to the mountain

    • @MaxJam684
      @MaxJam684 Год назад

      Funny. I, almost verbatim, made the same comment!

    • @Notachancepoopypants
      @Notachancepoopypants Год назад +7

      @@Ar1AnX1xcorner 9 3/4

    • @davidcovey3001
      @davidcovey3001 Год назад +5

      @@Ar1AnX1x Shhh, that's the entrance to the Batcave...

  • @russparker1647
    @russparker1647 Год назад +75

    What I don’t understand is how Ford can make the GT350r and the Gt500 with great steering feel and not extend that to all the GTS and Dark Horse . You are not the first reviewers to comment on the lack of steering feel.

    • @DuvJones
      @DuvJones Год назад +4

      I'll be honest I think they're saving that for the track day specials.... So as far as this new generation is I would keep an eye on the GTD and on the variants based on it.

    • @michaelmcdonald9847
      @michaelmcdonald9847 Год назад +6

      650 is more of a luxury GT cruiser. I have owned 550 and 650 and am ok with this new approach since I use it as my daily

    • @ClickbaitMotorsports
      @ClickbaitMotorsports Год назад

      @@michaelmcdonald9847 The S650 was not designed for performance enthusiasts. It was designed for meriting and sales. The focus group was Gen Z. It was designed to attract Challenger, Mustang, and Camaro buyers all at once. Giving people the performance of a Challenger while mimicking the interior of a BMW to attract BMW buyers. That's why it had an abysmal reception amongst performance enthusiasts. Oh and it's a Fully Networked Vehicle from Ford...always online providing driver data and information to Ford. Who knows what they do with the data.

    • @sliknik1025
      @sliknik1025 Год назад +9

      Those are Shelby cars. This is basically an upgraded Mustang GT. Like Mach 1 is compared to GT350. Similar, but not quiet as good overall. But honestly, all great cars. I just can’t believe how expensive the new Mustangs are. “Upgraded” Mustang GT aka Dark Horse costs the same as Camaro ZL1. Definitely overpriced. You’ll probably be able to get them with discounts down the line, like Mach 1 (not everywhere of course).

    • @AH-lw2bj
      @AH-lw2bj Год назад

      I think because it's a new chassis and the steering system itself is probably different from that generation of Mustang

  • @android-ud2nf
    @android-ud2nf Год назад +15

    Not gunna lie you guys are smart for breaking up the ads to make it harder to skip all at once lol

    • @MikeJohnson-ej4oc
      @MikeJohnson-ej4oc Год назад +2

      SponsorBlock add-on is so damn good. Check it out. I don't have to listen to these shills advertise, it auto skips, as god intended.

  • @dannyferguson9415
    @dannyferguson9415 Год назад +57

    I really appreciated Zacks dedication to steering feel.

  • @850t5m
    @850t5m Год назад +76

    The GT350 is probably one of the best setup cars you could drive off the dealer lot. It was fantastic to own, daily, and track. That said, definitely the engine was a concern. I had to get a new long block and after learning other issues I decided to get rid of it. This might make me come back to blue oval ...

    • @BMWho
      @BMWho Год назад +9

      try c7 grand sport/z51, ss 1le, ct4v blackwing. All amazing cars with 0 modifications

    • @850t5m
      @850t5m Год назад +12

      @@BMWho Funny you should say that. I am actually looking at a c7 GS tomorrow. I didn't realize they are dry sumped. On paper they seem really hard to beat.

    • @ericdoyne7957
      @ericdoyne7957 Год назад +2

      Would you mind elaborating on the Voodoo engine issues? Had a 2019 GT350 and had to sell it. A huge regret and I want another one. But haven’t followed on long term issues

    • @850t5m
      @850t5m Год назад +13

      @@ericdoyne7957 All high revving engines are prone to rod bearing issues. Mine, as well as most others spun a rod bearing. All factory with no modifications. There is no recommended rod bearing refresh per hour of track time or road miles given by Ford. They just chalk it up to a assembly defect. When mine was warrantied it was shipped with 20+ others to the USA ... All of them for warranty replacements... Additionally due to the large amount of vibration caused by the engine the crank snout is prone to cracking, pretty badly too. Enough to necessitate a new crank if you catch the cracking in time. I think it's a combination of things imo. It's a "flat plane crank" with a cross plane crank firing order... So did we really get something super special? I don't know but I'm leaning not really. Lastly one of the big mods done to the voodoo is to convert it to cross plane crank. Every one that has done so is still up and running as far as I am aware.

    • @ericdoyne7957
      @ericdoyne7957 Год назад +3

      @@850t5m thanks for the amazing Intel. Sad to hear and lucky I sold mine without issue. I’m a lifelong Mustang fan and it was a dream for me.

  • @EagleLTSS
    @EagleLTSS Год назад +8

    Got a 23 roush supercharged for almost same as dark horse .like new dark horse but 750hp with lower staggered wheels and new grill with 1.9 % for 72 months was hard to pass. So far love my 1st mustang .had a Camaro ss and a 392 Durango but you can’t go wrong with supercharged 5.0 sounds amazing with H pipe crackles and pops .

  • @ZeGermanHam
    @ZeGermanHam Год назад +155

    The S650 has been out for a little bit now and the styling hasn't grown on me. I tried to give it some time for my brain to adjust, but my instant reaction to seeing them in person is yuck. The S550 was a prettier design all around.

    • @fdangleshadang-a-lang7149
      @fdangleshadang-a-lang7149 Год назад +24

      Agreed. I think ford made the 650 more muscle-y to appease the Camaro and challenger fans since they no longer have theirs. I get why Ford did it, but I think the 550 looks better

    • @SethingtonIII
      @SethingtonIII Год назад +7

      I'll take, a 69', Fox-Body, SN95, S197, S550 any day of the week over this. I hated it when I saw it the first time and I hate it now.

    • @romanovmarkelyon1021
      @romanovmarkelyon1021 Год назад +4

      Yeah I wish they built on the muscular curves of the S550 more instead of making this thing so angular. It doesn’t do it any justice. The big ass screens, functional as they are, also take away from the character of the car imo.

    • @joshlamar1990
      @joshlamar1990 Год назад +16

      @@romanovmarkelyon1021lies here y’all are watching another s650 video. Again. 😂

    • @romanovmarkelyon1021
      @romanovmarkelyon1021 Год назад +2

      @@joshlamar1990 don’t you got some rap channels to troll

  • @WestsideCollectorCarStowage
    @WestsideCollectorCarStowage Год назад +3

    Two things to listen/watch for: Zack imitating a horse's snort/snicker and Matt making the fingers-to-mouth kissing gesture with his hand rotated 90 degrees from supinated, thus making it look like he's smoking a joint.

  • @John-by6jw
    @John-by6jw Год назад +5

    Anyone notice the skid marks right into the stone wall at about 6:00?

  • @michaelmcdonald9847
    @michaelmcdonald9847 Год назад +3

    You make an excellent point about the screens: unlike many other cars, they are actually customizable and aren’t just static images

  • @swakawakaflame
    @swakawakaflame Год назад +8

    You guys got some great shots on this one. Multiple on car angles, far away landscapes, flybys. Great vid as always but the cinematography stood out!

  • @deangrant6339
    @deangrant6339 18 дней назад +1

    So if you want steering feel all you have to do is remove the shock tower brace. This occurred when my Whipple was installed because it can’t clear the supercharger. Nobody seems to have figured this out. The chassis is just next level stiff you don’t need that brace.

  • @davidcovey3001
    @davidcovey3001 Год назад +9

    Not a fan of the "All-New" (refreshed) Mustang... but I can't deny the sound the Coyote engine makes is Glorious!

  • @buddahae86
    @buddahae86 Год назад +16

    I have a suspicion that the steering feel is muted on purpose with those massive sticky bois up front and aggressive alignment. Otherwise the masses would complain about fighting the steering wheel constantly.

  • @ThatWasherNerd
    @ThatWasherNerd Год назад +11

    Cricket’s cameo made that ad worth watching!

    • @SeanHarlow
      @SeanHarlow Год назад

      Immediately hit the thumbs up when I saw Cricket

  • @donphobos
    @donphobos 7 месяцев назад +1

    At 5:50 you can see on the skidmarks that somebody had a really bad experience (tangent off into the side of the hill.....) :-O

  • @markhavelka4924
    @markhavelka4924 Год назад +4

    I’ve been using the Aeropress for over two years, thanks to your ads. Never would have heard of it otherwise. It’s the only way to go!

  • @papa_pt
    @papa_pt Год назад

    @6:14 this!!!! A lot of modern cars I've driven appear to have incredible turn in but at least half the reason is because I have almost NO idea what struggle the front tires are in. Or any change in effort I may need to put in.

  • @dixonyaarmouf4630
    @dixonyaarmouf4630 Год назад +6

    As a Canadian it’s always funny to see someone in California wearing a toque & winter wear. Blood gets thin living out there I guess, when it hits-40 up here it could literally kill a west coaster lol jealous and would rather be there 🇺🇸

  • @jahnemann
    @jahnemann Год назад

    I really enjoy the edit adjustments you did. Split the ad? Smart!! Show off all the camera angles on car in the start? Dig it!
    And the cat in the ad? 10/10

  • @gweggorz
    @gweggorz Год назад +9

    Great video. Regarding the tendency of the front to dart around, so much of that is down to the tire compound itself. I have a '19 GT PP2 that came with 305 Cup 2s all around. Simply switching to the PS4S once those burned off (quickly lol) eliminated that on most road surfaces - it's only noticeable on the roughest of roads now, and for canyon/mountain roads there's still a shit load of grip. Overall though, I'm very glad I got my PP2 when I did instead of waiting for the S650

  • @dapetdetective
    @dapetdetective Год назад +22

    Although mostly into Japanese cars, am super excited for these! Definitely love the looks and track-ability but definitely surprised it isn’t as communicative, are cars headed that way more and more? Either way, love it and looking forward to a GT350 comparison if possible!

    • @papa_pt
      @papa_pt Год назад +6

      Seems like Porsche and Mazda are the only two companies who bothered to try and make decent EPS systems

    • @dapetdetective
      @dapetdetective Год назад +1

      @@papa_pt 100% agree! Pretty sad, although I know EPS is tough in general.

    • @ClickbaitMotorsports
      @ClickbaitMotorsports Год назад +2

      No. It's just this Dork Horse (S650s) that lacks the important steering feeling. Other Mustangs don't have this issue.

    • @jmm1174
      @jmm1174 Год назад

      ​@@papa_ptthe Camaro SS has good steering feeling and Tremec transmission in their V8s

    • @papa_pt
      @papa_pt Год назад

      @@jmm1174 good point. I was about to add Cadillac to that list
      Sadly I've only been in the 2011 and never got to test drive one of the newer gen Camaro

  • @justarandomcarguy
    @justarandomcarguy Год назад +2

    Owned a GT350 for many years. Of those years, many of them also included a 991 GT3. There is no comparison when it comes to size. Great car for $60,000 GT350 was in 2016 but Porsche was/is worth 3X more (and I actually think its worth more than Porsche charges for it). I sold it eventually as nostalgia wore off and the engine was a liability.

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft 2 месяца назад +1

      Two different types of cars that cannot be compared. Porsche is an elite rich boy European car. Mustang is the type of car a local plumber could have. I suppose the approach is why América is the most powerful economy in the world. The Corvette C8 is closer to a Porsche.

  • @coffeedoggy99
    @coffeedoggy99 Год назад +2

    My 350 has 30k miles, never a single issue though I do need to replace the cheap plastic valve covers (though the gt had those too). I can’t imagine replacing it nowadays. It seems like anything that’s going to be as engaging is going to be 2x the price. I’ve considered buying a daily to reduce the 350 miles but I don’t even drive enough these days to justify it.

  • @VS666
    @VS666 Год назад +18

    i'll probably see what Shelby Ford comes up with again on the 650 platform. i am sort of leaning towards a 5.0 in the future though because this Voodoo motor while it is very special it's also very expensive to replace and fix, thank the gods for warranty, I added another 3 years for peace of mind but now it HAS to stay stock =(

    • @maziyarebrahimi997
      @maziyarebrahimi997 Год назад +5

      Was cross shopping used gt350’s (19’s and up) against new SS 1le’s. Went with the 1le because of the reason you stated.

  • @ryeguy88
    @ryeguy88 Год назад +2

    Good to see Matt has a decent coffee grinder as well (baratza).

  • @redwalsh87
    @redwalsh87 Год назад +5

    Good review and comparison gentlemen. I recently picked up a Gen 2 engine (fingers crossed lol) GT350 and I love it. Coming from a 03 Mach 1 the GT350 retains the steering feedback that I like but it's light years ahead in handling, braking, power etc. I personally like the aggressive looks compared to the smoother design of the new Dark Horse/S650 as well.

    • @topher9671
      @topher9671 Год назад +3

      I just got a 2020 GT350 over a Dark Horse as well (also fingers crossed lol). So far it’s been phenomenal, I just couldn’t justify the current Dark Horse prices for what is essentially still a “Mustang”

    • @redwalsh87
      @redwalsh87 Год назад +1

      @topher9671 very nice and agreed. Mine is a 2019 with 13k miles, essentially a new car to me anyways.

  • @schmoopyboopy
    @schmoopyboopy Год назад +2

    That business coffee mug is amazing!

  • @GoPotato69
    @GoPotato69 Год назад +2

    love the green cabinets in ur kitchen matt

  • @TheBucketOfTruth
    @TheBucketOfTruth Год назад +2

    I remember test driving a GT350 and another time a GT350R and not being terribly impressed by the steering feel so if this is far worse that's quite sad. I much preferred the rack in the C7 Grand Sport over any of the Mustangs.

  • @liqidvenom
    @liqidvenom Год назад +2

    Isn't the mustang more sized like the 3 series coupe less the m2?

  • @TML34
    @TML34 Год назад +1

    Matt killed the mics with the track mode bump. 😂 Nice review boys, agree on all points. But it’s a little heavy, a little pricey and the lack of steering feel would be seriously disappointing.

  • @kkostec
    @kkostec Год назад

    Love the kitchen colors! That kitchen looks like it's always a great experience!

  • @jmm1174
    @jmm1174 Год назад +2

    How's the Dark Horse performance compares to the Mach l and to the Camaro SS1LE?

  • @masterofdisaster666
    @masterofdisaster666 Год назад +1

    Was mach 1 steering more like gt350 or this s550?

  • @bcuzimfromva1
    @bcuzimfromva1 Год назад +1

    I had a 2019 pp1. Now i have the Dark Horse. To me night a day difference. Dark horse is superior car by far. Im enjoying it. People love it. People ask me if the can take a pic ive been filmed driving on freeway go figure! (Justtryingtoenjoylifewhileim here)

  • @Tigersmundo
    @Tigersmundo Год назад +9

    *That dual intake is an inspiration for a twin-turbo setup.*

    • @JR10_RR
      @JR10_RR Год назад +1

      It's for emissions, nothing more. Any forced induction set up uses a single TB.

    • @jacobking4106
      @jacobking4106 Год назад

      ​​@@JR10_RRthat's not even true... Shut the fuck up ..

    • @ShadowAdministrator
      @ShadowAdministrator 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@JR10_RRDude doesn't understand how turbos are mounted.

  • @superdukerandy
    @superdukerandy Год назад +1

    Had a '16 GT350. Engine seized in that one w/ only 3K on it. Got a '17 under warranty, lost faith that the engine would pop in that one and sold it. It was the best NA V8 I've ever experienced however. Threw my hat in for a GTD, may pick up a Dark Horse for DD.

    • @craig.encinitas
      @craig.encinitas Год назад +1

      I have a ‘17 GT350
      Just turned 6,000 miles on it this month.
      I do spirited driving, but don’t abuse it. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @chipcurrey653
      @chipcurrey653 Год назад

      @@craig.encinitas There's a class action lawsuit against Ford over the 5.2. The engine fails due to harmonics issues with the flat plane crank - a google search will show countless failures, many of which happen on the street and at very low miles.

  • @tragicnomadic
    @tragicnomadic Год назад +2

    Dunno if I can mention the ip here but I really would like to see the Mach 1 vir lightning lap vs this.. I got a feeling the Mach 1 is still the more elite mustang. But I still say thanks to Ford for giving us a new gen mustang. Nothing wrong with the s550 chassis maybe cool it with the looks for the mid cycle refresh..

  • @mezbiderli
    @mezbiderli 21 день назад +1

    I'm about to pull the trigger on one. Lack of steering feel is concerning but there's simply no other option with all the tech goodies bundled.
    Would you recommend going with the handling package or without? I won't be tracking too often but the better handling the better.
    Thanks in advance!

    • @UnitedNaishuns
      @UnitedNaishuns 3 дня назад

      definitely get handling pack, it's what makes these cars worth it. you're going from GT handling feeling to more of a Shelby with the HP. totally liveable on the streets, will decimate (some) Porsches and punch above its weight on track assuming you're not paying full ticket lol. lack of steering feel is made up with sheer mechanical grip and good chassis control. also will be better for resale down the road. I just switched from a Mach 1 HP to a Dark Horse HP because a deal came up, love these cars.

    • @mezbiderli
      @mezbiderli 2 дня назад +1

      @@UnitedNaishuns Thank you boss that's great feedback. I had a Mach 1 HP and agree it was liveable and much more exciting to drive than the GT or Mach 1 non-HP. I want the DH for better interior and the tech - Mach 1 really started to feel out dated. Always a Mustang fan !!

    • @UnitedNaishuns
      @UnitedNaishuns 2 дня назад

      @ Same with me, DH looks so much more exotic in person and I like the new interior. DH HP coming up for pretty cheap, just scooped a full loaded one sub-60 with 3k miles. Keep an eye out for sure!

    • @mezbiderli
      @mezbiderli 2 дня назад

      I chose to donate 100K canadian to Ford for making such cars and ordered a fully loaded one 🙂

    • @UnitedNaishuns
      @UnitedNaishuns День назад

      @@mezbiderli enjoy it brother!

  • @PacManChan2211
    @PacManChan2211 Год назад +4

    Is the Dark Horse anywhere close to the C8? C8 prices are falling, and the Dark Horse is the same price as a 1LT C8. Hard for me not to spend a little more $ on a 2LT C8 over the Dark Horse. What are your thoughts?

    • @jrvbamafan1
      @jrvbamafan1 10 месяцев назад +2

      Not in outright performance...and I say that as a mustang lover that has a 22 mach 1 sitting in the driveway right now. My 9th mustang. I've also had a 1lt 2019 c7 stingray with the 7 speed manual. Still the fastest stock car I've ever owned. The problem ford can't seem to comprehend is they increase hp every year by 20-30, but increase weight a few 100lbs too. Now we have a 4k pound dark horse thats STILL in the 12s, just like the first 2011 5.0 that was around 3600lbs is. The biggest issue is you can only get the c8 in an auto...but if you're strictly looking for pure performance, a base c8 will dog walk a dark horse EVERY SINGLE TIME, and thats a fact

    • @PacManChan2211
      @PacManChan2211 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@jrvbamafan1 Thanks for your input. I actually ended up walking away from my Dark Horse in December. It was wrecked in shipping. The whole front underside was ripped off and the front bumper was loose. Dealer was not willing to come off price or fix it how I wanted. So I walked. So now C8 prices are still falling. I will find the one I want at the price I want at some point.

  • @jmf_5
    @jmf_5 Год назад +2

    How does it compare with an SS 1LE ??

    • @STIGRS
      @STIGRS 6 месяцев назад +1

      I think the SS 1LE beats Dark Horse in terms of handling and price. But now SS 1LE is no longer in the market. Too bad.

  • @BrendanEvan
    @BrendanEvan Год назад +2

    Sucks the steering is so numb. Can Ford really not sacrifice 1 mph and use a hydraulic rack?
    I still wanna drive one

  • @lastoutlaw_2129
    @lastoutlaw_2129 Год назад +2

    I love my DH and im coming from a kia stinger. So im lost in steering feel debate because i feel the road just fine. But to address the steering feel. The car is like that so that everyone can get in and enjoy the car. For as good as the 350 was.. most people do not drive that car alot and some barely have 20k in 7 yrs. I feel this that if i have to wait until my car tells me its losing control, then ive failed as a driver. I didn’t plan, scan the road accordingly, plan how to deal with low temps, and predict what i want my car to do. But i don't think these cars are "duds". I think they improved on the suspension part of the car and it feels more connected than when i drove a s550. The main issue with the car is inflation and greedy dealerships. Other thsn that the car is an improvement to me. Lol you think the DH cost alot. Oh boy just wait until the gt500 comes out😂. 20k-30k minimum for a 100k car maked up.

  • @mountainclimber48
    @mountainclimber48 Год назад +9

    Good informative review. I previously owned a ‘19 GT350 and now have a ‘21 Mach 1. The latter seems like the sweet spot.

    • @ClickbaitMotorsports
      @ClickbaitMotorsports Год назад +2

      Exactly. All the GT350 performance with reliability. Ford knew exactly what they were doing. They tried to reinvent the wheel with Gen Z input for the Dork Horse. Big fail.😊

    • @sizzahandz1
      @sizzahandz1 Год назад +1

      What made you switch to the Mach 1?

    • @sidstepper
      @sidstepper 8 месяцев назад +1

      Was there anything you disliked about the GT350 that made you switch? Whats better about the mach?

    • @ChrisWolf75
      @ChrisWolf75 4 месяца назад

      Not gonna lie. I like the new Dark Horse or at least the exterior. The dash setup inside kinda sucks. So I headed down to my local dealer for a look. 80-90k for this car in Canada when I can still pick up very low miles GT 5.0s only a year or two old for around 40-50k all day long. It's not worth the extra coin. No thanks 👎

  • @mac8179
    @mac8179 Год назад +2

    I’ve tried with Mustang, but it honestly feels like you’re driving a boat. It really is such a big car.

    • @shannonandsheila1403
      @shannonandsheila1403 Год назад +2

      Hogwash

    • @dirtylittledoe
      @dirtylittledoe 10 месяцев назад

      After coming from a 370z you're right but compared to my 70 challenger you're wrong all perspective

  • @reddhole3422
    @reddhole3422 Год назад +1

    How does it compare to a Camaro SS 1LE and the ZL1 1LE.

  • @mfjones2217
    @mfjones2217 2 месяца назад

    Does the s650 not have sterring feel control like all s550

  • @amac8487
    @amac8487 Год назад +2

    I can’t believe how a GT with performance pack and a few other options are 60k dollars … crazyyyy

  • @chrismathes3647
    @chrismathes3647 Год назад

    I'm a die-hard Mustang guy, grew up around Porsche and BMW. I'd also go with an M2 or Caymen. I can't understand the massive weight of the big 3s muscle cars today. Anyway, if I had the money I'd grab a 350R with all Speedkore parts that seems to be the lightest and nicest combo imo.

  • @BarbWaltersMusic
    @BarbWaltersMusic Год назад

    5:50
    those tire marks looks like it was a not a good time, damn

  • @The-Cadillac-Lawyer-ZL1
    @The-Cadillac-Lawyer-ZL1 3 месяца назад +2

    The Dark Horse is ultimately better because you can get it with the ten-speed automatic. I wish the GT350 had a ten speed or DCT option! that was a fuck up by ford.

  • @BrandenVandenToorn
    @BrandenVandenToorn Год назад

    Filming an aero press ad with other coffee makers behind you is insane! Lol 😂

  • @CaptainAries98
    @CaptainAries98 7 месяцев назад

    i want the dark horse engine and transmission (10spd auto) in my 09 p71 with long tubes, a pro charger, k&n intake and 4.10 gears but way too broke af and it's way too much car vs the stock 4.6 2v v8

  • @TheWolfMatt
    @TheWolfMatt Год назад +2

    The GT350R was made to beat the 14-15 Z28 Camaro which it did quite well. What's the purpose of the Dark Horse? Was it built to compete against the Black Panther ZL1? If so, I'd love to see that comparison.

  • @brianhoffert2713
    @brianhoffert2713 Год назад +1

    Hey everyone!! I'm making a trip this summer down to California and would love to drive this canyon road. Does anyone know what road this is or how to get there? Thanks guys

  • @manchuriancandidatethe3rd101
    @manchuriancandidatethe3rd101 Год назад +1

    You know what else is fun? The Cybertruck making Matt eat his words

  • @buffalobill2965
    @buffalobill2965 Год назад +1

    how is the fit and finish? the dark horse doug reviewed had big crooked panel gaps, it looked awful. Especially for a car that expensive.

  • @JorJorBinks123
    @JorJorBinks123 Год назад

    I hecking LOVE my Aeropress. Let’s go! Also the thumbnail looks like you should be dropping some lumber in the bed of the Mustang. lol

  • @kamk.1704
    @kamk.1704 Год назад

    Can someone please give me suggestion on what car has great steering feel these days for similar price as this Dark Horse? Steering feel is very important to me and I am looking for similar feel as 2004 bmw 330ci.

  • @ukprince4544
    @ukprince4544 Год назад

    I was waiting for this…all the other drivers tutorials on the Dark 🐎 it doesn’t seem to give it the smoking tire justice 💨💨💨💫💯

  • @thejoshbtv
    @thejoshbtv Год назад +8

    Bring back real gauges already. Enough of these dumbass screens everywhere.

    • @michaeltabanao8092
      @michaeltabanao8092 Год назад

      Agree.....the most tech that you needed was 2013

    • @dirtylittledoe
      @dirtylittledoe 10 месяцев назад

      ​@michaeltabanao8092 for u but the digital cluster in my 20 gt kicks ass not this 7th gen 🤢🤮

  • @cptchalk
    @cptchalk Год назад +8

    Would take a used Mach 1 with the handling package and manual over this 7 days a week.

  • @tronfromdacityyy6889
    @tronfromdacityyy6889 Год назад

    Matt where can I get the beanie ?

  • @Rakonus
    @Rakonus Год назад

    The skid marks right into the cliff wall gave me the willies

  • @chrisginoc
    @chrisginoc Год назад +1

    I've never been a Mustang guy, but this one looks good

  • @Spartan_Pope
    @Spartan_Pope Год назад

    Hey Matt where did you get the beanie from?

  • @alimechs
    @alimechs Год назад +3

    So what you say about cybertruck now after they 've made it ?

  • @jeremywatson9129
    @jeremywatson9129 Год назад

    As far steering feel goes, this vs Mach 1?
    I know they touched on it just wanted a little more detail.

  • @blu_is500
    @blu_is500 Год назад

    Love me some Mustang, but I personally need way more refinement. Give me a 5.0, but with a smooth ride....oh wait. 😉 Another awesome review, thanks for posting!

  • @draghrvacevic8481
    @draghrvacevic8481 Год назад +10

    When I see this new cars I’m going to stick with my 07 Shelby GT500. Nice review 👍

  • @blueman5924
    @blueman5924 Год назад

    Honest reviews are always top notch. 🤙

  • @pulDag
    @pulDag Год назад

    9:22 bump kills personal microphones :D

  • @santodegennaro7620
    @santodegennaro7620 Год назад

    Hey guys, great review. Just FYI there is only one performance pack at this point, there is no pp1 or pp2 since the intro of the mach 1 in 2021. Also the gt with the performance pack also come with the torsen limited slip diff and k member. Not trying to be a dick. Just trying to help keep the info accurate.

  • @michaelmcdonald9847
    @michaelmcdonald9847 Год назад

    There is no GT PP2 for the S650 yet Matt. There is just the normal performance pack

  • @international-arms-dealer
    @international-arms-dealer Год назад +1

    I got the Mach 1, love that thing.
    Tremec is excellent.
    Crazy how many eyeballs it gets in fighter jet grey.
    Interior sucks though.. hopefully S650/Darkhorse materials are a big step up.

    • @ClickbaitMotorsports
      @ClickbaitMotorsports Год назад

      You should have gotten the Premium Mach 1. Quality is superb, and th interior way better than the Dork Horse.

    • @international-arms-dealer
      @international-arms-dealer Год назад

      @@ClickbaitMotorsports what? It's the same interior materials.. they don't make bespoke high end interiors for a "Premium" trim 🤔

    • @ClickbaitMotorsports
      @ClickbaitMotorsports Год назад

      @@international-arms-dealer Mach 1 has the base interior as well a premium. You can even get cloth seats in a Mach 1. The premium Mach 1 interior is just superb. Perfect interior for a Mustang, like a GT500.
      Edi: Minus the carbon trim option for the GT500.

    • @international-arms-dealer
      @international-arms-dealer Год назад

      @@ClickbaitMotorsports I'm talking about the shitty plastics. Dash and door panel are the same regardless 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @ClickbaitMotorsports
      @ClickbaitMotorsports Год назад

      @@international-arms-dealer Same shitty panels as the S650. Even the new screens are cheap with those thick bezels. Nothing's changed, bud. A Mustang is not a Lexus.

  • @mooosestang
    @mooosestang Год назад +2

    You lost me at 3900 and change. If i put a whipple on this it will be pushing 4200lbs before i even step foot in it, that's to much!

  • @tythegreatttg
    @tythegreatttg Год назад

    I really want to see the dark horse and the 2022 Saleen Mustang White label in a drag race

  • @bobbyrobinette5772
    @bobbyrobinette5772 Год назад

    Was good to see you boys out there driving this, but I'm still GM all the way!

  • @Levibetz
    @Levibetz Год назад

    Oooo do we have a new Prius video coming up?

  • @noahgoldowitz
    @noahgoldowitz Год назад

    Love that shot from across the canyon

  • @thomasmcwilliams6762
    @thomasmcwilliams6762 Год назад

    I noticed that at 10:52 🤣

  • @Labergemusic
    @Labergemusic Год назад

    You have the best sponsors I think

  • @blueshark3098
    @blueshark3098 Год назад

    @TheSmokingTire: ALAGAE MAY BE PRESENT. Hahaha, I love that sign and love that road. So, I have driven a 2023 G70 3.3 and a 2020 Civic Si on that road. I liked the steering feel in both those cars on that road. How do they compare to the Mustang Dark Horse in steering feel, if you know?

  • @marcasswellbmd6922
    @marcasswellbmd6922 Год назад +1

    I'm sorry but I have to say it, The S550's look way Meaner and sexier at the same time.. Shifter's need to be upgraded but once you do a Barton or an MGW your fine..

  • @malikhaji2764
    @malikhaji2764 Год назад

    What happened to the orange Mustang?

  • @8lakk5unshine
    @8lakk5unshine 2 месяца назад

    The GT Track pack also has the torsen and track pack, so the arvument that this is somehow better due ot that is flawed.

  • @drunkpolack7612
    @drunkpolack7612 Год назад +3

    Can someone explain to me how two throttle bodies going into the same manifold is more efficient then one big one? Seems to me it’s designed like that to reduce emissions only.

    • @Wilkwayadventures
      @Wilkwayadventures Год назад

      More volume of air able to be brought in = more potential power. Also, better tip in throttle response.

    • @minibikemadman
      @minibikemadman Год назад +2

      it's for emmsions just like both carbon traps in the intake. Gotta make the epa happy.

    • @Finnspin_unicycles
      @Finnspin_unicycles Год назад +1

      I don't think it's necessarily more efficient than one big one, but it's probably a lot easier to package two smaller ones than one massive one, at least in a way that flows well and fits under the hood.. (And not sure how in the case of a throttle body emissions and power would be at odds with each other, better efficiency is good for either there..)

    • @mooosestang
      @mooosestang Год назад +1

      I would bet good money it's only for emissions.

  • @brandonhodnett5420
    @brandonhodnett5420 Год назад +9

    More steering feel from racing simulators 😅
    Tells you all you need to know about the “new” Stang. I’ll stick with the Camaro SS 1LE as it bows out uncontested in steering feedback, chassis balance and performance.

    • @memememine1
      @memememine1 Год назад

      Kind of sad. People thought eps tuning would get better but doesn't seem like it. My ss 1le was an amazing car but the steering was ok for EPS but nothing special even compared to a ~$1500 3 series sedan.

    • @NDEEZMiata
      @NDEEZMiata Год назад

      I loved mine while I had it, it was nearly the perfect car. I’d honestly say it had better steering/chassis feel than my ND2 Miata which weighs like 1400 lbs less
      Clutch, shifter, brakes were amazing.
      The viability was the only thing I really didn’t like other than the running costs and electronic parking brake. You get used to the tank feel, but it definitely spoils the fun, especially on narrow canyon roads.
      They were such a steal though….it was the hood rich man’s Cayman lol

  • @MaxJam684
    @MaxJam684 Год назад +2

    At 5:51 the tracks on the road say; Someone had a very bad day.

  • @ccb_232
    @ccb_232 Год назад +6

    Cricket appreciation post.

  • @bryanhallman8183
    @bryanhallman8183 10 месяцев назад

    I can empathize with the cat interfering with filming... 🤣🤣🤣

  • @senshibat8920
    @senshibat8920 Год назад

    Was the Bullett use of 350s airbox like a bargain 350?

    • @JR10_RR
      @JR10_RR Год назад

      No, was just to bump the advertised power a bit when coupled w manifold and TB. Below 6,000rom, a regular GT makes more/same power and torque.

  • @DWH300
    @DWH300 Год назад

    Maybe ask Ford if you could test the Dark Horse R. By the way. You mentioned pricing knocking on the door of a used Cayman or Boxter. What years are you referring to plus you didn't mention the maintenance cost of those cars. One favor. How about weighing your Dark Horse tester. I'm seeing handling package Dark Horses listed from 3879 to the weight your using of 3975 lbs. When curve carving the Dark Horse. Maybe give it a try individually instead of with 2 passengers

  • @rhatala27
    @rhatala27 Год назад +1

    Since when are CF wheels not great for track work? Isn't that the whole point?

    • @outforaripper
      @outforaripper Год назад

      abuse will break em and they are $$$

  • @abelw71
    @abelw71 8 месяцев назад

    Hard to ever surpass the 350 perfect balance, looks and that amazing engine that sings like no other.

  • @jaasun71
    @jaasun71 Год назад +1

    Saw a new DH at my local dealer today. Marked up to $89k lol.

    • @Vonwafenburg
      @Vonwafenburg Год назад +2

      That sucks. I bought a 2013 Boss 302 for 32k and I couldn't imagine this thing would be almost 60k better

    • @michaelmcdonald9847
      @michaelmcdonald9847 Год назад

      @@VonwafenburgI didn’t buy it brand new for that price

    • @jaasun71
      @jaasun71 Год назад

      @@Vonwafenburg Went to another dealer today and they had a DH for $104k. $25k over msrp

  • @ATR-_
    @ATR-_ Год назад

    It's crazy to me that we are going to have to pay for Force Feedback on modern drive-by-wire systems once fully implemented. Feeling the road is half of driving when it comes to racing or at least being a driver's car.

  • @johnwilliams727
    @johnwilliams727 Год назад +1

    Every single car review complains about electronic power steering, every single one. Demand these car manufacturers bring back hydraulic steering.

  • @BrokeAndSquare
    @BrokeAndSquare Год назад +5

    Wouldn’t mind having one. I think it looks better than the S550 Mach 1 and likely more reliable than a GT350 at the track. The Coyote is damn near bulletproof.