Keep in mind this is the least track-capable version of the Dark Horse as well. Unfortunelty the EU cars dont get the handling pack (due to EU pedestrian protection regs) which having driven both, makes a huge difference- The HP cars get better aero, more negative camber, 305/315 width Trofeo RS tires, different chassis tuning for mag ride..etc. The brakes are really amazing. Glad you enjoyed it!
As a us citizen who has always loved European autos due to handling, and Japanese cars for reliability I gotta say I’ve been impressed with what my countrymen (or at least in badge name) have been producing in the c8 and the dark horse, maybe I need to connect with some relatives who work, or worked at Gm and ford for that discount 😊
american cars can handle good, and be reliable doing so, people just choose to put the economy cars and post 2015 trucks as the face of reliability of american manufacturers. european manufacturers are all up in the track game since its their #1 marketing tool.
As a german I think that the US cars are actually really great. Just look at the Corvette as well. It's a superb package to be honest. Nowadays there are almost no bad cars left anymore. What's missing is a new Gen Lancer EVO and WRX STI.
Idk about the new models, but I always found it ironic that the Mustang and corvette were some of the most reliable cars we’ve made in the last 15 years
I`m a EU citizen and I love US cars. They are not as refined and polished as the EU counterparts, but bang for the buck ...? I think they do a pretty good job. I thought americans had a better opinion of their rides, because in Europe people tend to look down on them like being inferior for some reason. Especially handling. But that story might had been told in the 1970s and persisted to this day. Although it wasn`t true at all. Motorweek tested Camaro Z28 against Porsche 928 sometime in the 80s and, despite Camaro had some flaws from the factory, it won the fastest lap. One other guy drove a Firebird (fourth gen) as a drift car and said he had never seen anything like it. It handled perfect, was predictable, very solid chassis ... What I`m trying to say is there are lots of great US cars aside from Corvettes and CTSes. But how do you say about that stuff ...? Underrated?
Unfortunately it isn't like looking in the mirror, because the rear view is not mirrored as it should be. When he passes a car it should be visible on the right, but it's on the left. It should be an easy fix with software, but maybe he doesn't have time to fix it. Or his editor doesn't know how.
That temp guage didn't even move that's impressive. Love these dark horses. Built very well and extremely capable for a price a lot lower than I expected.
That's because it's a Ford guage. They either show good, or not good. There is no middle ground. Ford guages have been like that since the 80s I have owned many Fords. They were all the same.
Nah, it costs too much.. it's over $70k in the US. That doesn't even include the race seats. The 6th gen SS 1LE Camaro is still better. For the DH price you can get the Camaro ZL1 and blow the doors off the DH
@@johnnyturbo8460 whats funny is I just bought a 93 taurus sho and its temp gauge constantly moves. I've never seen coolant gauge move around that much. Thankfully it never goes into the red :)
@carsonj4031 That's because it's a 93 Taurus SHO. They are known for blowing head gaskets. Good luck. (Note: When a Fords oil pressure or temp guage starts moving around from dead center.. Start to worry)
In the US we can just order the Whipple 3.0 supercharger and have the dealer install with warranty. Then add tires ,brakes and suspension . I think its 804 hp . P.s. go imsa!
I can go on and on as to why that is, but there has definately been a shift here toward road racing. Back in my day, it was all about horse power/drag racing and oval racing.
Love it, wish it was the handling pack with the better tires and suspension. I noticed you were shifting around 7000-7200rpm where I believe the redline is 7500. The engine could easily go to 8000rpm mechanically…once tuning is unlocked.
My first car was a 64 1/2 Mustang that my Dad gave me. I've been in love with them ever since. It's amazing to see how far they have come and great seeing them get some love on the Nurburgring.
I have a 10-speed Mustang GT S550. It has every option except Recaro seats. Meaning it's a premium 401a car with all the tech and amenities, as well as a Performance Package car with upgraded Magneride suspension. It's tastefully modded but still N/A. These modern Mustangs are "budget supercars" in the realm of affordable performance. Tons of fun on the street, and very capable on track.
@nick9602 So true I had his same car and I hated how the rear-end would want to swing around when throttling out of corners to fast! Ditched it for a less likely Pick for most people. 2016 audi s6 that would dominate it in the straights and corners cause of the Quattro system. Total sleeper!
He liked it a LOT, and it's not even a Handling Package with the super sticky 305/315 tyres, and bigger front splitter/rear wing, with optional Carbon Fibre Wheels, that's available in the USA !!
Or a GT350 with Cup 2's. Much better than the dark horse and 8 years older. This car is old tech. Like the 370z to the 350z nismo. He's only driven the GT350 on shit tires
@@Resch72113 Would be nice to have GT350R, which has even more goodies than GT350, no? I remember Dark Horse supposed to be a Bullitt successor, and Bullitt itself is a watered down GT350 (have some good bits but not as good).
@@RDSAlphard The DH is a Mach 1 successor. Not the Bullitt. The Bullitt's only upgrades over a standard PP1 are the GT350 intake manifold and a different tune. And yes, I own a Bullitt.
where I live (slovakia) they ask appr. €75k for the dark horse. the only upgrade available are recaros. it seems handling pack will not be an option in whole EU
It's always funny to see the random Mustang hatred from young dudes on the internet, yet when a professional actually drives one they have nothing but praise.
No. This car was perfected in the GT350. I guarantee you 90% of the parts in the dark horse were developed in the GT350. Misinformation like all the comments on this page. Europeans stay home when it comes to American cars lmao
As an owner of one I can asure I do not regret for a second to have gottten this instead of an m2 or even a porsche cayman gts. I know I know...excuse me but this one having a 6 speed Tremec, the recaros which are also very comfortable for me, one of the best breaking systems in the market and the unique exhaust sound...well, that is a hell of a difference. Not mentioning the magneride, the audio system and the instruments display modes (from CLASSIC, foxbody, track, etc) I know the porsche is better but oh my God this car is to really enjoy driving!
My buddy fortunately let me drive his through the dragon and man they’ve stepped up the game on suspension. Has great sound and power from factory, not so great gas mileage lol.
The biggest thing I took away after watching this is just how impressive the breaks are. So much speed carried into corners and the breaks worked incredibly well!
I had already put an order in for a Dark Horse but with Misha putting his stamp of approval on this car and how great it is really makes me feel better about spending 70k on a non Shelby mustang. To say I can’t wait is an understatement. Thank you so much Ford for continuing to make these N/A American V-8 track killers with manual trans.
Installing a bigger ring and pinion would fix almost all the awkward torque power curve rpm issues with this track's layout. Second lap was so much smoother, can't say enough about how quickly Misha adapts to whatever he is piloting.
@Mg_Charoudin0 It would be an absolute pleasure to stop by for a conversation Misha, regrettably since I live in Alabama the logistics would be problematic, if I ever make it to Germany I'll stop by. Cheers
So sad they don’t get handling back, was with Grassroots Motorsports when they tested a non-HP at the Firm in Florida’s and the tires hold the car back a good amount. The 305/315 as well as all the other changes makes a huge difference and you would’ve loved it! Hopefully they can order all that stuff and install it themselves. Can’t wait to see you try more American cars. Like a ZL1 1LE, Boss 302, GT500 or a Z/28 (would love to see first and last one fs)
Would like to see a comparison with the M2 on track. I’m driving a M240i regularly on the Ring and was thinking about the new M2 BUT that seems to be a real thing and way cheaper, not heavier, V8, good performance… why not ? 🤔
@@fransarjYeah i kind of realized that about cars recently now its some of the european sports cars (mostly bmw) that are heavier and faster than american sports cars in a straight line and american cars like the mustang darkhorse have better braking and handling lol
@@ocavantThe Voodoo sounds amazing, but it also had serious problems that couldn't really be fixed without building an entirely new engine around a flat-plane crank. Also worth noting is most of its unique sound came from an exhaust manifold design that prioritized sound over outright performance, throwing equal length headers on it makes it sound more like any other flat-plane V8 and frees up a good chunk of power in the high RPM range.
Absolutely cannot wait to see the Steeda DH on track! I wanted a DH so badly, but Ford limited them to 2 per dealer, but the GT premium with performance pack is pretty fun to drive too! Keep up the awesome videos!
Misha , idk about Europe yet but here in the US you can now order them from the dealer with a whipple supercharger for 10k extra , 700 hp and you keep all the warranty on the car … just something to keep in mind if you might be interested !
I'm so impressed with Ford Performance these days. They're KILLING it. I'm so glad this car is a real sports car and not the boat with a million horsepower that the Hellcat is.
I haven't even got to watching the actual track footage yet as I'm only 3.21 mins into the video but seeing how impressed he already is makes my American ass say God Bless America and Congratulations to Ford!.
I would love to see one with a dark horse that has the dealer installed supercharger since it only adds about 10k to the total purchase price and is comes with a 3year 36k mile warranty.
Misha I've seen your channel since years ago, i been wanting a video like this for a new tuned bmw 330i and a jaguar f type R, would be great to see you killing it!!🙌🏽
Great video Misha, just to make you aware if you are not already. One of the cameras microphones is providing some static feedback, not easy to hear if you don't have volume up loudly, or headphones. Hope this helps!
People taking the piss on the roads ruined it. Loud pipes in particular are high on noise complaints list. After Type Approval reduced noise regs, some countries are now taxing high performance cars off the road.
Thanks for all your videos!!! Sometimes it's close to not wetting my pants even though I'm not even on the ride. The fact that you drive the same track every day, perhaps several times a day, also makes it comparable between different cars, but it's not easy as a driver even if you have two identical cars, and when driven by different owners with different mileages, they can already be quite different, not to mention the tires, chassis and tuning level. But we see how the Pro driver leaves behind significantly faster cars than what he is currently driving. Amazing videos! God's blessing and safety to you!
The 3.55 rear gear in the auto would be better suited here. The optional 305 and 315 Trofeos would have made a huge difference as well. That's not even getting into all the standard track upgrades that most do. Considering what that car was shows just how much potential a lightly modified car really has.
The Challengers classify as a true muscle car, but the Mustang has far surpassed its initial lineage of a pony car. Its increased track and road course capabilities via better suspension and handling have pushed it into sports car territory.
Maybe it's the camera angle, but Misha looks like he's reaching back for the gear lever. I don't recall that being an issue with my old Steeda modified S550 Mustang. Also interesting to see him discover that you can't rely on low-down torque to pull it out of corners; it's often better to change down more often than you might expect (took Misha some time to realise that!). That motor pulls best at higher revs. Overall, the Dark Horse seems like it's a great car for the money!
If it was me, I'd buy a 2015-17 and modify. Ported 2018 intake, track package suspension, gt 350 brakes, tires of choice. All that for less than the new one, and in my opinion looks much better
@@kevinfitzpatrick5949 People seem to really believe inb that gen 2 coyote. Definitely something to consider. I like to start off with a new car that hasn't been abused or modded by someone else. I have been thinking about getting a gen 2 coyote and getting stupid with a supercharger.
@@jessicaphoenix1312 I will admit I might be baised towards the 15-17s. I used to have a 17 GT and was weeks away from buying the parts for boost. Then 2020 happened and I had to sell everything and move to another state that had snow. I have a little truck now and it's nice, but I really miss my GT
@@jessicaphoenix1312Now i havent driven a gt350 or darkhorse but another thing you can take into consideration is how heavenly a gt350 sounds with an aftermarket exhaust theres youtube short of an orange gt350 with an aftermarket exhaust racing like 2 other cars that in my opinion is one of the best sounding cars ever
Nice drive Mustangs have come a long way, keep doing what you like Misha positive vibe to you. The rear view made me think that Porsche was passing you on the rightside grass
I'm not going to lie i was always a chevy guy until the new mustang came out and was blown away by how good it looks Inside and out. And the performance is amazing I just wish they had more colors to choose from.
Also that tall overdrive is another reason to get the 10 spd auto, not to mention 10 speeds and paddle shifting. Wish the would put out a dual clutch transmission and blower option.
Best combo for this car. Sadly the GT is saddled with a Getrag MT82 for the manual which is fun, but prone to issues. The Tremec here is a much better transmission, and IMO the manual is the only way to go. Leave the automatics to the soccer moms.
I have a GTD on order. I would absolutely love for you to drive the car. Although I am in Texas so never really shipped a car overseas or however that would work 😅
Lovely mustang! Here in the Netherlands they start at a selling price 145.400euro (€80.084 BPM)(Taxes) To be honest thats just insane compared to pricing in other countries
If I had a Eu version and wanted some mods. Maybe brake pads of I wanted more stopping power. Maybe slotted rotors of the brakes overheat. But it was mentioned the brakes are very good. Tires for more grip if it is necessary. Suspension magnaride tune if needed. On the list. Suspension components, I bet it's pretty good. Maybe a race alignment. Adjustability is likely already there. A stiffer part here or there with the same adjustments. Bushings, keep rubber for street driving? Maybe poly, heims are probably equipped.
Impressive what Ford and Chevy motorsport/performance are doing with their halo cars. It is a welcome change because it was not this way for a long, long time.
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Keep in mind this is the least track-capable version of the Dark Horse as well. Unfortunelty the EU cars dont get the handling pack (due to EU pedestrian protection regs) which having driven both, makes a huge difference- The HP cars get better aero, more negative camber, 305/315 width Trofeo RS tires, different chassis tuning for mag ride..etc. The brakes are really amazing. Glad you enjoyed it!
Uff! Sad yeah
@@justrandomstuff84 But you still have to homologate it? And the cost increase is spectacular... 😭😭
@@justrandomstuff84 Just buy some wider wheels and some Cup 2's.
@@mgcharoudin We will be bringing handling packs in as a retrofit :) soon enough adds around 12-14k we think
But the EU DOES get the Steeda version! Which is even better! 8)
I want to see Misha drive the GTD next
Me too! Can't believe Ford made a Diesel Mustang. The "D" in GTD stands for Diesel.
@@electrikoptik lol rage bait
@@electrikoptik 🤣🤣
When I first heard it, I was like 2.0tdi in a mustang? Then I found out they are just ignorant to German nomenclature of cars.
@@electrikoptik I hear they will soon release a racyer version, the Sport Tourismo Diesel (STD).
Everything he says the car needs (wider, stickier tires and more aero) is available with the handling package. This is just a base darkhorse.
We don't get it in Europe :(
Sadly, you can't get those in the eu, you can import them, but the amount of extra costs will outweigh doing it yourself😢
Including the trofeo r tires.
@@k20ee96 Thanks to our idologic politicians :(.
In Europe we can provide the Steeda Q767 Dark Horse for people wanting more than base performance.
Rear facing cam as a "review mirror" like video games is 👌👌👌 great idea
It should be mirrored. As it was, it was just a reverse view.
Mirrored mirror, that's an interesting concept
Except it’s backwards which freaked me out when that Mercedes passed
Rearview you mean? And yeah for game it would make sense to mirror, not sure how well it would work in a video like this
YES
Misha solo laps are the best that way the comment section doesn't cry about how they think the passengers should act in their own car during a lap 😂
Agreed 😆
nah man the ghost is way too quiet
Lmao spot on 😆👍
True, it is another point of view and Misha can be a little more focused (apart from the weight).
Some of them are goofy, you can’t disagree 😂
As a us citizen who has always loved European autos due to handling, and Japanese cars for reliability I gotta say I’ve been impressed with what my countrymen (or at least in badge name) have been producing in the c8 and the dark horse, maybe I need to connect with some relatives who work, or worked at Gm and ford for that discount 😊
And the Cadillac Blackwings and Camaro SS 1LE, etc...so many good options.
american cars can handle good, and be reliable doing so, people just choose to put the economy cars and post 2015 trucks as the face of reliability of american manufacturers. european manufacturers are all up in the track game since its their #1 marketing tool.
As a german I think that the US cars are actually really great. Just look at the Corvette as well. It's a superb package to be honest. Nowadays there are almost no bad cars left anymore. What's missing is a new Gen Lancer EVO and WRX STI.
Idk about the new models, but I always found it ironic that the Mustang and corvette were some of the most reliable cars we’ve made in the last 15 years
I`m a EU citizen and I love US cars. They are not as refined and polished as the EU counterparts, but bang for the buck ...? I think they do a pretty good job. I thought americans had a better opinion of their rides, because in Europe people tend to look down on them like being inferior for some reason. Especially handling. But that story might had been told in the 1970s and persisted to this day. Although it wasn`t true at all. Motorweek tested Camaro Z28 against Porsche 928 sometime in the 80s and, despite Camaro had some flaws from the factory, it won the fastest lap. One other guy drove a Firebird (fourth gen) as a drift car and said he had never seen anything like it. It handled perfect, was predictable, very solid chassis ... What I`m trying to say is there are lots of great US cars aside from Corvettes and CTSes. But how do you say about that stuff ...? Underrated?
I really love the new camera setup, it's like looking in the rearview mirror. Perfect!👌
Unfortunately it isn't like looking in the mirror, because the rear view is not mirrored as it should be. When he passes a car it should be visible on the right, but it's on the left. It should be an easy fix with software, but maybe he doesn't have time to fix it. Or his editor doesn't know how.
@@mediocreman2 I did it in the past and too many comments about not understanding the camera
It’s fine how it is now
@@mgcharoudini miss pedal box, if is a manual car pedalbox is always really good as I can see better all of your inputs at the same time
That temp guage didn't even move that's impressive. Love these dark horses. Built very well and extremely capable for a price a lot lower than I expected.
That's because it's a Ford guage. They either show good, or not good. There is no middle ground.
Ford guages have been like that since the 80s
I have owned many Fords. They were all the same.
Nah, it costs too much.. it's over $70k in the US. That doesn't even include the race seats.
The 6th gen SS 1LE Camaro is still better. For the DH price you can get the Camaro ZL1 and blow the doors off the DH
@@johnnyturbo8460 this car isnt over 70k its about 61k this is a base dark horse not a HP car.
@@johnnyturbo8460 whats funny is I just bought a 93 taurus sho and its temp gauge constantly moves. I've never seen coolant gauge move around that much. Thankfully it never goes into the red :)
@carsonj4031 That's because it's a 93 Taurus SHO. They are known for blowing head gaskets. Good luck.
(Note: When a Fords oil pressure or temp guage starts moving around from dead center.. Start to worry)
In the US we can just order the Whipple 3.0 supercharger and have the dealer install with warranty. Then add tires ,brakes and suspension . I think its 804 hp .
P.s. go imsa!
Seems like it's select dealers willing to do that. They need to add a factory order item for the Whipple and let's remove the dealership.
That rearview camera view is trippy. Thought that AMG was trying to squeeze around you on the outside.
The way the American muscles cars have transformed from tire burning wet noodles to proper track cars within the last 10 years is amazing.
I can go on and on as to why that is, but there has definately been a shift here toward road racing. Back in my day, it was all about horse power/drag racing and oval racing.
Love it, wish it was the handling pack with the better tires and suspension. I noticed you were shifting around 7000-7200rpm where I believe the redline is 7500. The engine could easily go to 8000rpm mechanically…once tuning is unlocked.
My first car was a 64 1/2 Mustang that my Dad gave me. I've been in love with them ever since. It's amazing to see how far they have come and great seeing them get some love on the Nurburgring.
Indeed!! I Loved driving my Dad's Poopy red 64 1/2 4 spd also 🇺🇸
It sucks you’ll can’t receive the dark horse with the handling package…..
I would guess it already comes with it?
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It doesn’t. Less power too
@@kaankuruuzumcu3867not in Europe unfortunately
That’s the EU for you!
I can NOT wait to see you behind the wheel of a GTD! 👌🏼🔥
Unbelievably smooth !!! It's like it's glued to the track !!
I have a 10-speed Mustang GT S550. It has every option except Recaro seats. Meaning it's a premium 401a car with all the tech and amenities, as well as a Performance Package car with upgraded Magneride suspension. It's tastefully modded but still N/A. These modern Mustangs are "budget supercars" in the realm of affordable performance. Tons of fun on the street, and very capable on track.
With Chevy pricing the common man out of the Corvette, the Mustang def is the best bang for your buck
Too bad the rear end feels like its floating around on bumps like a straight axel even though it has IRS LOL
@@nick9602you can fix that with lowering springs or a stop the hop kit. Drives like a completely differnet car modded, and its cheap to fix.
I have a new loaded GT PERFORMANCE PACK in automatic. The paddle shifters actually work really well so it's a great car on the track.
@nick9602 So true I had his same car and I hated how the rear-end would want to swing around when throttling out of corners to fast! Ditched it for a less likely Pick for most people. 2016 audi s6 that would dominate it in the straights and corners cause of the Quattro system. Total sleeper!
He liked it a LOT, and it's not even a Handling Package with the super sticky 305/315 tyres, and bigger front splitter/rear wing, with optional Carbon Fibre Wheels, that's available in the USA !!
Fee-Brey. lol
Imagine Misha tried the Dark Horse with Handling Pack, or the GTD! Because those should be even better!
Or a GT350 with Cup 2's. Much better than the dark horse and 8 years older. This car is old tech. Like the 370z to the 350z nismo. He's only driven the GT350 on shit tires
@@Resch72113 Would be nice to have GT350R, which has even more goodies than GT350, no?
I remember Dark Horse supposed to be a Bullitt successor, and Bullitt itself is a watered down GT350 (have some good bits but not as good).
@@RDSAlphard 350R only advantage is the carbon wheels. I just bought a set for my 350 and saved $20k on an R lol
actually a little bit more carbon panels and front spliter as well for GT350R compared to GT350, keep on building
@@RDSAlphard The DH is a Mach 1 successor. Not the Bullitt. The Bullitt's only upgrades over a standard PP1 are the GT350 intake manifold and a different tune. And yes, I own a Bullitt.
Crazy how much of a difference turning off traction control made. Looked like you were driving much more freely
where I live (slovakia) they ask appr. €75k for the dark horse. the only upgrade available are recaros. it seems handling pack will not be an option in whole EU
Mustangs are just getting better and better. The new brakes on the S650 are the real big step forward with the car.... As Misha just found out!
It's always funny to see the random Mustang hatred from young dudes on the internet, yet when a professional actually drives one they have nothing but praise.
No. This car was perfected in the GT350. I guarantee you 90% of the parts in the dark horse were developed in the GT350. Misinformation like all the comments on this page. Europeans stay home when it comes to American cars lmao
@@Resch72113 The brakes are the big step forward and they are not from the GT350.
Brakes are smaller than gt350 and r and car weighs more. @@SoundBoy808
Yeah, well young dudes on the internet can't drive Mustangs.
This is what I call enthusiast car: manual with a handbrake and great driving dynamics :)
BMW should take notes ...
The 10 Speed Auto with F1 Style Paddle-Shifters is HEAPS Quicker than the manual.
I have a ‘22 Mustang GT and I’m in love with it. I have so much enthusiasm for Mustangs now 😊
The new camera setup is cool! Its almost video game like the way the rearview camera is placed
As an owner of one I can asure I do not regret for a second to have gottten this instead of an m2 or even a porsche cayman gts. I know I know...excuse me but this one having a 6 speed Tremec, the recaros which are also very comfortable for me, one of the best breaking systems in the market and the unique exhaust sound...well, that is a hell of a difference. Not mentioning the magneride, the audio system and the instruments display modes (from CLASSIC, foxbody, track, etc) I know the porsche is better but oh my God this car is to really enjoy driving!
News flash! Mustang's are really good. Have been for many, many years.
My buddy fortunately let me drive his through the dragon and man they’ve stepped up the game on suspension. Has great sound and power from factory, not so great gas mileage lol.
Nice, always cool to see some Merica! on this channel.
RAAAHHHH 🦅🦃
The biggest thing I took away after watching this is just how impressive the breaks are. So much speed carried into corners and the breaks worked incredibly well!
Imagine the gtd. Got to be the most important track wepon on the list to drive
I had already put an order in for a Dark Horse but with Misha putting his stamp of approval on this car and how great it is really makes me feel better about spending 70k on a non Shelby mustang. To say I can’t wait is an understatement. Thank you so much Ford for continuing to make these N/A American V-8 track killers with manual trans.
I have been waiting for this one. 2015 marked the year the mustang lost the solid axle and this year marks the year it got seriously quick
Wait….GT350R wat? 😂
It has been seriously quick since the year 2016 with the GT350R.
You’re about 8 years late, 2007 Shelby Gt500.
@@notaperson5811 quick around corners 2015 ;-)
GT350 is still better
We did some ride alongs in a Dark Horse at Charlotte Motor Speedway. I was impressed!
Wow he really went for it through the last few corners
he on xgames mode
Installing a bigger ring and pinion would fix almost all the awkward torque power curve rpm issues with this track's layout. Second lap was so much smoother, can't say enough about how quickly Misha adapts to whatever he is piloting.
@Mg_Charoudin0 It would be an absolute pleasure to stop by for a conversation Misha, regrettably since I live in Alabama the logistics would be problematic, if I ever make it to Germany I'll stop by. Cheers
@@darylwayne5307Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet home Alabama
60k would be awesome, but for some of European countires the taxes will lift the price significantly :D
Not sure where the guy got the price from but in Germany it starts at 72500 EUR, not 60k...
He probably meant the price without taxes and everything, so in the Netherlands it starts at about 144k😔
71300 in France + 60000 of mothefking emission taxes + 1575€ to do the registration so around 133k€...
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@@lordofkiwi5144emission tax aka “for the rich only tax” such Bs
@@lordofkiwi5144 60,000 Euros in France for emissions? How do you guys afford cars there?
As you said at 3:00 is what basically S650 Mustang GT4 is. Dark Horse with better brakes, suspension and more aero
6:00 the way that AMG just finally disappeared
That is insane, imagine the AMG project one
So sad they don’t get handling back, was with Grassroots Motorsports when they tested a non-HP at the Firm in Florida’s and the tires hold the car back a good amount. The 305/315 as well as all the other changes makes a huge difference and you would’ve loved it! Hopefully they can order all that stuff and install it themselves. Can’t wait to see you try more American cars. Like a ZL1 1LE, Boss 302, GT500 or a Z/28 (would love to see first and last one fs)
Would like to see a comparison with the M2 on track. I’m driving a M240i regularly on the Ring and was thinking about the new M2 BUT that seems to be a real thing and way cheaper, not heavier, V8, good performance… why not ? 🤔
Check out Jason Camisa’s video vs the M4. Funny enough, the M4 was faster on the drag strip, the darkhorse was faster on track 😂
I would take M2 overall but I like dark horse also
@@fransarjYeah i kind of realized that about cars recently now its some of the european sports cars (mostly bmw) that are heavier and faster than american sports cars in a straight line and american cars like the mustang darkhorse have better braking and handling lol
Good to see you testing out the Dark Horse, I'm dying to see Ford put a GTD in your hands! 😂👍
17:12 that's the fist time I've seen a Noble M12 GTO on the Ring
you should drive one Mischa
Good to see the mustang getting some love. I want to see my ‘88 notch back on the Nurburgring! Lol
Sounds amazing for a 2024 car 👌
Inderdaad Robbin ! ❤
Not even close to how good the 5.2 voodo sounds.
@@ocavantThe Voodoo sounds amazing, but it also had serious problems that couldn't really be fixed without building an entirely new engine around a flat-plane crank. Also worth noting is most of its unique sound came from an exhaust manifold design that prioritized sound over outright performance, throwing equal length headers on it makes it sound more like any other flat-plane V8 and frees up a good chunk of power in the high RPM range.
@@griffinfaulkner3514that is pure misinformation you doorknob. You don't own a GT350 keep your mouth shut 😂
My only complaint is the looks. The last one was just… better 🤷🏼♂️
Edit: Misha, you have to get your hands on that “new” Lancia Automobili.
The e46 in the back is lovely.
The Mustang is great, but god that green...
Freakin gorgeous, eh?
Absolutely cannot wait to see the Steeda DH on track! I wanted a DH so badly, but Ford limited them to 2 per dealer, but the GT premium with performance pack is pretty fun to drive too! Keep up the awesome videos!
Still haven't driven a gt500 on here
Misha , idk about Europe yet but here in the US you can now order them from the dealer with a whipple supercharger for 10k extra , 700 hp and you keep all the warranty on the car … just something to keep in mind if you might be interested !
Love seeing the Mustang’s progress. My first car was a 97 Cobra and it tried killing me every corner
feet cam would be so awesome here!!!
After turning off esp you can really see the difference in the 2nd lap. Very impressive with the new dark horse
When a car makes Misha sounds like Mickey Mouse, you know it's a great car! 😅😅
ford mustang has earned its place with all the European exotics regardless of its price. very underestimated car.
I'm so impressed with Ford Performance these days. They're KILLING it. I'm so glad this car is a real sports car and not the boat with a million horsepower that the Hellcat is.
I bought my dark horse last month. I love my car!
60k Euro? Not a chance? Add all the eco taxes and closer to 80k probably
The rear cam is great ngl, I’d love a feet cam also it’s always cool seeing how Misha goes through the gears
GTD next right?
I haven't even got to watching the actual track footage yet as I'm only 3.21 mins into the video but seeing how impressed he already is makes my American ass say God Bless America and Congratulations to Ford!.
I would love to see one with a dark horse that has the dealer installed supercharger since it only adds about 10k to the total purchase price and is comes with a 3year 36k mile warranty.
Man i hate electric gages.
I’ve been in a lot of cars and a lot of race cars as well. I have never felt better brakes in a vehicle than I felt in a dark horse. Very impressive
That 6th gear makes baby Jesus cry😢
Misha I've seen your channel since years ago, i been wanting a video like this for a new tuned bmw 330i and a jaguar f type R, would be great to see you killing it!!🙌🏽
The sixth speed is a full-fledged shit.😮
What do you expect from an OD gear?
This is where a 7 speed would be useful, 6 track gears.
But most people buying these will drive them on the street, so the 6 speed works.
That 6 speed is a TREMEC. May not be faster than the 10 speed auto. But it is far from shit in the world of manual transmissions.
Ever heard of an overdrive gear?
Great video Misha, just to make you aware if you are not already. One of the cameras microphones is providing some static feedback, not easy to hear if you don't have volume up loudly, or headphones. Hope this helps!
EU Regulations have ruined this car for Europe
People taking the piss on the roads ruined it. Loud pipes in particular are high on noise complaints list. After Type Approval reduced noise regs, some countries are now taxing high performance cars off the road.
Thanks for all your videos!!! Sometimes it's close to not wetting my pants even though I'm not even on the ride. The fact that you drive the same track every day, perhaps several times a day, also makes it comparable between different cars, but it's not easy as a driver even if you have two identical cars, and when driven by different owners with different mileages, they can already be quite different, not to mention the tires, chassis and tuning level. But we see how the Pro driver leaves behind significantly faster cars than what he is currently driving. Amazing videos! God's blessing and safety to you!
Now my question is why in the hell would someone put the mustang on non FREEDOM UNITS? RAHHHHH🦅🦅🦅 WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER?
It the most common measurement in the world only our stupid country decided not to
Believe it or not, the US is not the only country in the world. And most of the world uses km's.
The standard worldwide
@@BijanYstupid countries land on moons
@@user-bj4lp3fr1ono one cares about the rest of the world
The 3.55 rear gear in the auto would be better suited here. The optional 305 and 315 Trofeos would have made a huge difference as well. That's not even getting into all the standard track upgrades that most do. Considering what that car was shows just how much potential a lightly modified car really has.
0:16s mustang is a muscle car not a sports car
They were pony cars, not muscle cars. They have had an IRS since like 2015, making them more akin to GT/Sports cars of old for nearly a decade now....
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It’s technically a pony car. But due to how the more modern ones are, they are classified as a sports car.🤓
The Challengers classify as a true muscle car, but the Mustang has far surpassed its initial lineage of a pony car. Its increased track and road course capabilities via better suspension and handling have pushed it into sports car territory.
There are no official requirements for those terms. They’re totally subjective. Call them whatever you want, it makes no difference to the cars.
I'm impressed that they're achieving these results with only 275 rear rubber staggered with 255 front. My grocery getter is on 255 rubber!
I like that you appreciate all brands and give honest reviews, and drive the hell out of them lol.
Its wild how far fords 302 has come along. The motor is engineering refined over decade after decade.
Hearing misha speaking french is the real golden moment of this video ❤
God dam, the simplest pony mustang darkhorse takes a dump all over, over hyped and ultra expensive uros on their own turf, amazing.
5:26 I just tripped HARD, if you invert the rear camera footage it would look exactly like a virtual rear view mirror.
Maybe it's the camera angle, but Misha looks like he's reaching back for the gear lever. I don't recall that being an issue with my old Steeda modified S550 Mustang. Also interesting to see him discover that you can't rely on low-down torque to pull it out of corners; it's often better to change down more often than you might expect (took Misha some time to realise that!). That motor pulls best at higher revs. Overall, the Dark Horse seems like it's a great car for the money!
You've got me thinking about getting one of these now. Since I am in the US I think it would be a fantastic choice for a track car.
If it was me, I'd buy a 2015-17 and modify. Ported 2018 intake, track package suspension, gt 350 brakes, tires of choice.
All that for less than the new one, and in my opinion looks much better
@@kevinfitzpatrick5949 People seem to really believe inb that gen 2 coyote. Definitely something to consider. I like to start off with a new car that hasn't been abused or modded by someone else. I have been thinking about getting a gen 2 coyote and getting stupid with a supercharger.
@@jessicaphoenix1312 Gen 2s are the best for boost. Slightly lower compression than gen 3, and the fuel system is more suited to boost
@@jessicaphoenix1312 I will admit I might be baised towards the 15-17s. I used to have a 17 GT and was weeks away from buying the parts for boost. Then 2020 happened and I had to sell everything and move to another state that had snow.
I have a little truck now and it's nice, but I really miss my GT
@@jessicaphoenix1312Now i havent driven a gt350 or darkhorse but another thing you can take into consideration is how heavenly a gt350 sounds with an aftermarket exhaust theres youtube short of an orange gt350 with an aftermarket exhaust racing like 2 other cars that in my opinion is one of the best sounding cars ever
They just ran the Mustang GTD there at the Ring and I cannot wait to see you drive that, Misha!
Nice drive Mustangs have come a long way, keep doing what you like Misha positive vibe to you. The rear view made me think that Porsche was passing you on the rightside grass
I'm not going to lie i was always a chevy guy until the new mustang came out and was blown away by how good it looks Inside and out. And the performance is amazing I just wish they had more colors to choose from.
Also that tall overdrive is another reason to get the 10 spd auto, not to mention 10 speeds and paddle shifting. Wish the would put out a dual clutch transmission and blower option.
Best combo for this car. Sadly the GT is saddled with a Getrag MT82 for the manual which is fun, but prone to issues. The Tremec here is a much better transmission, and IMO the manual is the only way to go. Leave the automatics to the soccer moms.
I have a GTD on order. I would absolutely love for you to drive the car. Although I am in Texas so never really shipped a car overseas or however that would work 😅
If I didn’t misheard 60 grand for a 500 PS car in Germany is a great price point. When you compare it to an M4 which goes for around 115K.
Lovely mustang! Here in the Netherlands they start at a selling price 145.400euro (€80.084 BPM)(Taxes) To be honest thats just insane compared to pricing in other countries
this is great. I would like to see the version of this car supercharged and compare the two. Thanks great video!
4:03 Trying to scratch his head through his helmet is PEAK Misha 🤣
bro the confidence you took into the first turn with a mustang was insane.
If I had a Eu version and wanted some mods.
Maybe brake pads of I wanted more stopping power.
Maybe slotted rotors of the brakes overheat.
But it was mentioned the brakes are very good.
Tires for more grip if it is necessary.
Suspension magnaride tune if needed. On the list.
Suspension components, I bet it's pretty good. Maybe a race alignment.
Adjustability is likely already there. A stiffer part here or there with the same adjustments.
Bushings, keep rubber for street driving? Maybe poly, heims are probably equipped.
You need the whipple supercharger kit. from 430 whp to 800whp. Just need high octane fuel and octane booster.
im ashamed to say i didn't know it existed until they dropped it in forza horizon 5, awesome car.
Thank you, Misha. I wanted to see it put through your hands.
Thanks to misha I have grown to love European cars lately but boy do I love misha driving and American car and him also enjoying the shit out of it
Rear-view cam is perfect
Impressive what Ford and Chevy motorsport/performance are doing with their halo cars. It is a welcome change because it was not this way for a long, long time.