100% agree on the fitting comment. I've been fit when I'm swinging poorly or sore from working out or swinging well. All different results. Still gaming the 2016 M2. will test out SIM. Ball speed trumps all for me. Shafts will sort out spin.
@@davidgroom9667 I'm an NCAA golfer and I can assure you that's not accurate. I was fit for my driver and the shafts and flexes, weights, tip, etc... all changed my spin drastically.
Head and ball speed are club head variables. If you are comparing different clubs those are the key numbers to look at. Using identical shafts won’t necessarily translate to same spin/launch in different heads due to head design/weighting. Long story short the new stuff is slightly faster, but if you want max distance, get fitted.
I might have to buy an M2 if I can find it for the right price. It seems to be up to par with these new clubs. I love your videos and watch them as soon as I can. Keep it coming Simon. Peace Love Respect
Simon an idea for some original content. Could you do some videos for stretches/gym routines to help us to play better golf? Although there's some information on pre round stretching, stretching in general would be good to have a video on exactly what we need to do. Also with the gym routines, how to increase strength (core etc) for more consistent swings and more power Thanks in advance
Thanks For Watching Guys! Thats the last of my 2020 driver videos now, back to Bargain Review, Long drive, Left hand series and anything else that you guys come up with! thanks for the support.
I completely agree about how so many modern drivers look too open at address. That is why I love adjustable drivers between the ability to change loft, sit in "draw" setting and moveable weights there is a setting that suits my eye and my swing. So neither M2 nor Sim Max would be suitable for me, I will stick with my original Epic for a while yet
Not watched yet but I got an M2 in very good condition on eBay for 110 and it’s arriving today or tomorrow. Can’t wait. I suspect that the m2 will have SIMilar results to the SIM.
Going for a lesson on Saturday. Going to get them to go through the loft settings of my M2 to get the best results. Thought I would try this first instead of buying a SIM Max.
@@gzman1 yes they made a 2016 and 2017 version. The 2016 version was better apparently. it was so popular that they brought it back last year. You can still buy it in American golf for £250.
@@SASGolf do you do full bag fittings and if so how much would that cost? I was looking at custom lab golf over at hitchin but you are roughly the same distance away.
My playing partner just bought an M2 , I have an R1. Hit both, using a new PRO V1 for each. M2 lower trajectory, middle of the fairway. Go get an M2. LP
I kinda predicted the outcome both drivers soo close for an average golfer. Please do a series on all brands over a ten year span...really really curious how close (or how far) models within a brand are. Thanks
I would never pay the prices that they RRP today. I got a 2017 m2 driver and bought that secondhand for £110 last year. However I am really considering buying a new cobra F9 as now you can get them for £290 brand new. What are your thoughts? I hit the M5 at American golf last week and best drive was 344 yards but shots where not consistent they where all over the place. I hit the F9 longest was 324 yards but alot more forgiving for me.
Very good comparison vlog, My question is Thinking about buying the M2 but because my swing (and I need to practice more) from hitting a driver they tend to go right, face, pull, slice 😂 I found out that the m2 is great for forgiveness and you can get the M2 D-Type which is suppose make the ball flight to a Draw, but is it worth getting the D-type if I fade the ball all the time and would it help? can you do a comparison video of the two M2 and the M2 D-Type? Thanks keep up the great work
What is the difference with the M2 from 2017 and the 2016 version.. Because i really consider to buy the 2017 M2 and may be the M1... How is your baby? Nothing is better then comming a father✌✌
The big thing with the 2017 is they said they made it sound better. But I couldn’t tell the difference. Just as good as each other but I think the 2016 looks better. All good thank you mate! Love it.
The 2016 M2 has the highest resale of any Taylor Made Driver. See how hard it is to find a 2016 M2 driver in Mint condition. If you do $125-$175 US on eBay.
We’re those range balls or real balls? I assume that matters most. My son and I still use m2, although he swings 125mph, so he just got the epic flash 5 degree long drive and is playing with it. His ball speed is 176 spin 2000 and he hits up at least 5deg. II’ve seen playing lower loft and hitting up really lowers spin for me at 100mph swing speed at 7.5 deg loft.
What happened with the shaft you WOULD get with the 2016 M2 driver as unless your going to buy a new shaft for your 2016 buy it isn’t the club you would be playing lol
Your comparison video is awesome! This topic is super interesting I have an m2 that’s great but we’re tempted by shiny new bling clubs and my money is better spent on coaching. Thanks man 👨
Hello have you on my radar probably bit confusing for you as you have stated in your response. My question is it worth upgrading from a m2 2017 driver fro the latest sim max. Thank you
From a ball speed perspective no, however from a forgiveness and launch perspective potentially. But is all about testing them side by side and seeing if there is any real gain for sure. Thanks
Appreciate your time and effort in your rep,y. I really dont know where you get the time after the new addition to your household. You are a good and honest guy would love to have a fitting with you. God bless
So to recap all the new clubs are smoke and mirrors..... I have a G5 Ping I’ve had 15 years and whenever I get a bit flush I go and test the “new driver” but just before I buy I say I want to hit my club to make sure it’s going to get me the extra yardage.... guess what? So far I’ve always left the shop with £400 in my bank and the G5 in my bag.
Hi Simon i had posted a comment / question relating to this vid and my current M2 2017 driver which was sent and appeared as a comment but has since disappeared. Can you explain please
the golfordian yes the 2017 edition was rereleased as a m2 2019 edition because it performed so well they put it back in stores for 249.99! But you can find it lower! Amazing right?! Hope that can help!
Not a huge fan of the edit mate. Some good info on club fitting, but would have been more useful in a separate video, made it hard to follow to stay on topic on the differences between the two clubs.
The king still hasn't been dethroned.. long live the M2
I love my 2016 M2. Still see no need to change. Still looks good and the stats still hold up against the newer models.
I love my m2.. and not going change for anything else till I learn how to use it 😅
Me too
2016 M2 with a fujikura air speeder 40 at 45.75 inches is by far the longest driver I have ever hit by 20 yards and excellent dispersion.
100% agree on the fitting comment. I've been fit when I'm swinging poorly or sore from working out or swinging well. All different results.
Still gaming the 2016 M2. will test out SIM. Ball speed trumps all for me. Shafts will sort out spin.
Chris Cachat - shafts makes little or no difference to spin.
@@davidgroom9667 I'm an NCAA golfer and I can assure you that's not accurate. I was fit for my driver and the shafts and flexes, weights, tip, etc... all changed my spin drastically.
Sh!teposts Brah! - that is you reacting to the shaft, not the shaft
Fresh faced assassin, slaying the reporting. Realistic, credible...I got the 2016 M2 on the back of your M2 feedback
Just got an M2 to go with the M2 irons. Got the irons for Christmas and had to get the driver. This set rocks.
Great to show a cheaper older club will do the same/ similar new club.
Head and ball speed are club head variables. If you are comparing different clubs those are the key numbers to look at. Using identical shafts won’t necessarily translate to same spin/launch in different heads due to head design/weighting.
Long story short the new stuff is slightly faster, but if you want max distance, get fitted.
I’ve bought both during lockdown so can’t wait to give them a go on the range and the course 🙌🏼🤙🏼🏌️🤷🏻♂️
I might have to buy an M2 if I can find it for the right price. It seems to be up to par with these new clubs. I love your videos and watch them as soon as I can. Keep it coming Simon.
Peace
Love
Respect
Simon an idea for some original content. Could you do some videos for stretches/gym routines to help us to play better golf?
Although there's some information on pre round stretching, stretching in general would be good to have a video on exactly what we need to do.
Also with the gym routines, how to increase strength (core etc) for more consistent swings and more power
Thanks in advance
stefon dai Thomas , this is a great idea. Good market to target especially with his long drive aims.
@@phin6389 and would also help out the average golfer... stretching can reduce injuries and help improve scores
We know the driver distance max’ed out a long time ago, what I would say is how quickly they age visually.
Driving Range King exactly
Thanks For Watching Guys! Thats the last of my 2020 driver videos now, back to Bargain Review, Long drive, Left hand series and anything else that you guys come up with! thanks for the support.
New fairway reviews
Do you have a coach? Wondering what a coaching session at your level is like. Keep on keeping it real Simon!!👊
Lefty?
Do the M1 vs SIM
I completely agree about how so many modern drivers look too open at address. That is why I love adjustable drivers between the ability to change loft, sit in "draw" setting and moveable weights there is a setting that suits my eye and my swing. So neither M2 nor Sim Max would be suitable for me, I will stick with my original Epic for a while yet
M2... Best driver hands down
Not watched yet but I got an M2 in very good condition on eBay for 110 and it’s arriving today or tomorrow. Can’t wait. I suspect that the m2 will have SIMilar results to the SIM.
Great buy mate. 🙌
I changed out my R1 and found a 2016 M2 for 120 shipped in perfect condition! Cheers
@@SASGolf it's been great so far. Took me a few shots to get used to it but now that I am its great.
Going for a lesson on Saturday. Going to get them to go through the loft settings of my M2 to get the best results. Thought I would try this first instead of buying a SIM Max.
Will make a difference mate if its not already on the optimal setting.
@@SASGolf it is a 10.5 cranked to 12 when I bought it so I'll let you know what trackman decides 😁
@@garyhague5882 is there a 2017 and a diff year version of the m2?
@@gzman1 yes they made a 2016 and 2017 version. The 2016 version was better apparently. it was so popular that they brought it back last year. You can still buy it in American golf for £250.
@@SASGolf do you do full bag fittings and if so how much would that cost? I was looking at custom lab golf over at hitchin but you are roughly the same distance away.
Go the m2! Great test!
Please do the same test with old and new irons! Good vlog
Nice vid simon. I suggested in another channel that all new drivers should tested side by side with an m2. For this exact reason. Well played
My playing partner just bought an M2 , I have an R1. Hit both, using a new PRO V1 for each. M2 lower trajectory, middle of the fairway. Go get an M2. LP
I kinda predicted the outcome both drivers soo close for an average golfer. Please do a series on all brands over a ten year span...really really curious how close (or how far) models within a brand are. Thanks
I'm glad you did this video. I love my M2 so probably wont be changing it this year, again.
I’ve been watching you since you started you’ve been doing a great job keep it up
Think I need to get an M2. Great video.
My m2 is still amazing and the t made king!!
Can you try this with a mid handicapper that has a lower swing speed and less constant ball strike. It would be cool to see if it makes a difference.
just got myself a set of m2s...lovin' them. Wouldn't call them cheap tho...
I would never pay the prices that they RRP today. I got a 2017 m2 driver and bought that secondhand for £110 last year. However I am really considering buying a new cobra F9 as now you can get them for £290 brand new. What are your thoughts? I hit the M5 at American golf last week and best drive was 344 yards but shots where not consistent they where all over the place. I hit the F9 longest was 324 yards but alot more forgiving for me.
I used to think like you the M2 was the best looking out there until I got an M3 440.
Amazing an M2 2016 is still $350 here in NZ that's about £185
bought one for 200 cad used.. is that brand new?
Still hard to beat a rbz stage 2 ...for distance and price...
Very good comparison vlog, My question is Thinking about buying the M2 but because my swing (and I need to practice more) from hitting a driver they tend to go right, face, pull, slice 😂 I found out that the m2 is great for forgiveness and you can get the M2 D-Type which is suppose make the ball flight to a Draw, but is it worth getting the D-type if I fade the ball all the time and would it help? can you do a comparison video of the two M2 and the M2 D-Type? Thanks keep up the great work
Love these vids not watched yet fully but I hope the M2 wins 👀
thanks for watching! 🙌
At last someone mentions the variables 💪🏻 which renders most of not all head to heads irrelevant. Most golfers have a swing for every day 😂
Two great drivers.
What is the difference with the M2 from 2017 and the 2016 version.. Because i really consider to buy the 2017 M2 and may be the M1... How is your baby? Nothing is better then comming a father✌✌
The big thing with the 2017 is they said they made it sound better. But I couldn’t tell the difference. Just as good as each other but I think the 2016 looks better. All good thank you mate! Love it.
Another great vid thank you. I currently have bought a new 2017 M2 driver how would this compare to the new sim driver?
I wanted to compare the 5 Woods or 3 Woods for comparison
The 2016 M2 has the highest resale of any Taylor Made Driver. See how hard it is to find a 2016 M2 driver in Mint condition. If you do $125-$175 US on eBay.
I am liking this before I have watched it!
Awesome video !
We’re those range balls or real balls? I assume that matters most. My son and I still use m2, although he swings 125mph, so he just got the epic flash 5 degree long drive and is playing with it. His ball speed is 176 spin 2000 and he hits up at least 5deg. II’ve seen playing lower loft and hitting up really lowers spin for me at 100mph swing speed at 7.5 deg loft.
Is the M2 your favorite driver of all time?
Dylan Hall definitely mate. 👍
Great review 👍
0:09 Equilivant :)
Maybe i missed it. Was loft mentioned? Just curious...
I have the 2017 M1 very good low spinning driver I hit it even better than the M2
What happened with the shaft you WOULD get with the 2016 M2 driver as unless your going to buy a new shaft for your 2016 buy it isn’t the club you would be playing lol
I still game the m2. Dont hit any of the new clubs better so no point in chucking 400 quid away
Why not the same comparative for 3 wood?
Your comparison video is awesome! This topic is super interesting I have an m2 that’s great but we’re tempted by shiny new bling clubs and my money is better spent on coaching. Thanks man 👨
So should I get club fit after a few doubles of rye? Haha cause thats how I usually play.
Not surprised. New drivers aren't any longer than ones a few years old because of USGA rules. You're wasting $400 if you're buying for more distance.
M2 all day
If you get properly fit for any driver made 2016 and on I don't think you will see much of a difference performance wise between any of them
M2 all the way and buy a hybrid , fairway or wedges with the money left or quiet possibly all 3 😁
what about the normal sim, or the sim sub zero?
Wise words
Hello have you on my radar probably bit confusing for you as you have stated in your response. My question is it worth upgrading from a m2 2017 driver fro the latest sim max. Thank you
From a ball speed perspective no, however from a forgiveness and launch perspective potentially. But is all about testing them side by side and seeing if there is any real gain for sure. Thanks
Ok can i come for a comparison please
Appreciate your time and effort in your rep,y. I really dont know where you get the time after the new addition to your household. You are a good and honest guy would love to have a fitting with you. God bless
So to recap all the new clubs are smoke and mirrors..... I have a G5 Ping I’ve had 15 years and whenever I get a bit flush I go and test the “new driver” but just before I buy I say I want to hit my club to make sure it’s going to get me the extra yardage.... guess what? So far I’ve always left the shop with £400 in my bank and the G5 in my bag.
Is Taylor made guilty of false advertisement?
I know a little off topic what happened to the lefty series?
Coming back mate. Just juggling time to practice. Update soon. 🙌
Can you just cane some at the Punto please ?!?!?
Can you compare these with th TP Burner 9 degrees?
Would be a lot less forgiving the TP but will go further just in the nature of the head mate. 👍
Hi Simon i had posted a comment / question relating to this vid and my current M2 2017 driver which was sent and appeared as a comment but has since disappeared. Can you explain please
Don’t understand the question mate?
He basically saying why has his comment gone 😂😂😂😂😂
Whats so funny? I am a bit slow on the uptake so why
Is the M2 still in production, 2019 / 2020
the golfordian yes the 2017 edition was rereleased as a m2 2019 edition because it performed so well they put it back in stores for 249.99! But you can find it lower! Amazing right?! Hope that can help!
Not a huge fan of the edit mate. Some good info on club fitting, but would have been more useful in a separate video, made it hard to follow to stay on topic on the differences between the two clubs.
Fair enough mate il have a look into making it clearer. Thanks 🙌
I’d love to volunteer as the person to be fitted as part of your experiment
I'm scared already with your swing speed that M2 probably will melt the face they had a habit of caving in from crown
I loved my m2 but nothing compares to my m3
comment why?
Why not sim vs m2 not the sim max?
The SIM is the M1, M3 and M5 equivalent whereas the SIM MAX is the M2, M4 and M6 equivalent.
TM marketing machine hard at work to sell more SIM.
Farther is distance not further, just saying.
nice haircut
“equelivent” ??
Great example how one shaft doesn't fit one player.
Cheap vs expensive, lol Fook off both were expensive it’s like saying 5 years down the road the sim will be the “cheap” driver.
Obviously, sim will be short-lived.
You will never get a club deal by doing these videos. 😂
👍✅🙀✅👍
First?
Tyler Merwin legend 🔥
2016 M2 is a legendary driver.....SIM totally overhyped across the board.