Marvin Harrison Jr. vs. Malik Nabers: Here’s Who Is Better.

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  • Marvin Harrison Jr. and Malik Nabers are in a battle for WR1 in the 2024 NFL draft, and today we will determine who between them is better. Harrison Jr. hails from The Ohio State University and is the easy choice; he is tall, fast, strong, and has put up prolific stats, however, LSU’s Malik Nabers has everything it takes to dethrone him come draft day. Nabers has rare movement ability, an endless highlight reel of long explosive catches, and in my opinion more high-end potential, despite having a lower floor. Who is going to be WR1 come draft day? This week’s episode uses the coaches all 22 to analyze the Ohio State Buckeyes Wide Receiver Marvin Harrison Jr. and LSU’s Wide Receiver Malik Nabers as they prepare for the 2024 NFL draft.
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  • @AlexRollinsNFL
    @AlexRollinsNFL  2 месяца назад +59

    Give me your elevator pitch on whether you think Nabers or Harrison Jr. is the WR1.

    • @rawswisher43
      @rawswisher43 2 месяца назад +17

      One played with a top 3 NFL pick his whole career. The other played with a guy that will be in the UFL or CFL in a few years and stroud for a single year which isn’t much.

    • @PsychixNFL
      @PsychixNFL 2 месяца назад +24

      If Marv can be a true X and play the "DeAndre Hopkins role", why gamble on a receiver with a marginally higher ceiling and so much more to prove?

    • @andrewrichter2231
      @andrewrichter2231 2 месяца назад +13

      I think that MHJ is the better prospect, but isn't it disrespectful to not but Odunze in the conversation considering many believe that he is better than Nabers? I've seen most people say that MHJ is 1, and Nabers is 2, bur thinking that Odunze is better than Nabers is more common than thinking that Nabers is better than MHJ.

    • @PsychixNFL
      @PsychixNFL 2 месяца назад +6

      @@andrewrichter2231 Many analysts that prioritize physical traits have Nabers over Marv, leaving Odunze third. Analysts that prioritize refinement have Marv over Odunze. He's not looked at in that light because neither camp sees him as potentially WR1.

    • @jok3r_tr1ckster96
      @jok3r_tr1ckster96 2 месяца назад +4

      I lean Harrison because I'm a fan of OSU. However, I'm not sure you could go wrong with either.

  • @TopSoulMan
    @TopSoulMan 2 месяца назад +298

    Pointing out how MHJ uses his hands similar to a pass rusher was excellently done!

    • @DetroitTyler
      @DetroitTyler 2 месяца назад +2

      To me he is like the WR equivalent of Patrick Surtain II. Both really good athletes, good size and extremely technically sound. Very much a ultra low floor can't miss type of prospect.

  • @JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly
    @JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly 2 месяца назад +618

    *_If you think about it, Marvin Harrison Jr. vs Malik Nabers represents a battle of two great NFL wide receiver factories between Ohio State and LSU._*

    • @JR-eg8ir
      @JR-eg8ir 2 месяца назад +19

      That’s exactly what I was thinking. Whoever turns out better will be WR U for now

    • @zackhurwitz9441
      @zackhurwitz9441 2 месяца назад +66

      ​@@JR-eg8irLSU has Brian Thomas Jr. in this class as well. It's close but I think the edge has to go to LSU rn, cause of Chase and Jefferson. The OSU guys are studs, but I'm not taking them over those guys from the boot.

    • @colton88
      @colton88 2 месяца назад

      @@zackhurwitz9441facts

    • @smercxz
      @smercxz 2 месяца назад +13

      @@zackhurwitz9441As a Buckeye fan I can’t argue that. Jettas and Chase def at the top but we coming this season baby Arod wit Garrett gonna show what Garrett really capable of !! 🔥🔥 Hopefully Harrison hits the ground running, Olave leveled up last season hopefully he does it again and maybe Garrett can finally get some good-great qb play and show what he can really do looking forward to watching all these boys from both WRU’s tear the league up 🔥🔥

    • @M1sterSuck
      @M1sterSuck 2 месяца назад

      ​@@zackhurwitz9441 Buckeyes could've had Emeka Egbuka in this draft class but he decided to stay for another year, potential 1st-2nd round talent

  • @Dee--Jay
    @Dee--Jay 2 месяца назад +191

    I think if Nabers had a better release from the line, he would be the overall better receiver.. Harrison has really really really good footwork and release technique. Prob trained well from his father.

    • @beauknows93
      @beauknows93 2 месяца назад +12

      nfl will work w him on that

    • @gemicah9264
      @gemicah9264 2 месяца назад +22

      Nabers played top defenses. End of discussion.

    • @Dee--Jay
      @Dee--Jay 2 месяца назад +4

      @@gemicah9264 he sure did!

    • @lebronjames7593
      @lebronjames7593 2 месяца назад +14

      @@gemicah9264big ten defenses are better

    • @RemingtonScarborough
      @RemingtonScarborough 2 месяца назад +16

      @@gemicah9264I know you did not just say the SEC has better defenses than the Big 10 😂

  • @wildcat4837
    @wildcat4837 2 месяца назад +190

    They both want Herbert as their QB 1,000+yds 10TD season! Rookie of the year for sure!

    • @juelzd7172
      @juelzd7172 2 месяца назад +16

      MHJ won’t be there when the chargers are on the clock. Nabers will be there.

    • @deecee2174
      @deecee2174 2 месяца назад +10

      MHJ said he'd like to play on the Cardinals

    • @corvenzo221
      @corvenzo221 2 месяца назад +7

      @@deecee2174 He would be stupid to say otherwise. #4 vs #5 is an extra $3M in your rookie contract

    • @Nikillem
      @Nikillem 2 месяца назад +8

      Too bad all signs point to Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman teaming up to run tf outta the ball

    • @huntertaylor3409
      @huntertaylor3409 2 месяца назад +7

      @@Nikillemyou think them getting rid of all of their receivers points to them getting o-line or something? Lmao

  • @Dawg-Bone
    @Dawg-Bone 2 месяца назад +142

    Here’s how I view it:
    1a. Nabers
    1b. Harrison
    1c. Odunze
    All three of these guys are going to be phenomenal in the league.

    • @petesiegel9225
      @petesiegel9225 2 месяца назад +7

      @Dawg-Bone
      Very reasonable grades. QB and WR 2024 class are great studies for quality and differences in styles.

    • @e2rqey
      @e2rqey 2 месяца назад +62

      Flip Nabers And Harrison. You can't win with routes consistently with brute force at the NFL level.
      Especially if the team he gets drafted to tries to line him up at an outside receiver position instead of in the slot. Not to mention the slot receiver generally takes more physical punishment as well.
      Marvin is far more versatile and has a toolkit which translates better the the NFL and can be applied to farmore situations.
      Its as much a mental game vs NFL DBs as it is a physical one. He's deceptively athletic, he runs his routes so smooth and varies his speed on routes instead of going 100% all out on every play it can seem like he's less athletic. The thing is that its the complete opposite, his technique and movement is so refined that he's able to achieve separation and make DBs massively overcomit with minimal effort.
      he's winning his routes comprehensively with a fraction of the energy that Nabers does. he uses finess, speed, power, and misdirection. Not only do these translate better to the NFL, they are tools which last for a much longer time.
      If you have to rely on just being physically better than the defender on every play, once you loose that you have nothing else. Players like Larry Fitzgerald, D-Hop, and Marvin Harrison Sr. were/are able to have such long careers in the NFL because most of what makes them productive in the NFL doesn't diminish over time. If anything they actually get more powerful as they get more experience.
      If all you have is the ability to have that insane burst and extra step on defenders, you may be good for a few seasons but you're not going to be a top WR for 10+ years.
      Watch Marvins tape and you can see how often he's able to just completely cook DBs not through using raw speed, but just by making them mentally and physically overcommit to the wrong route. hes so deep in their head that hes not just winning one rep at a time. hes made them stop trusting their own instincts. past a certain point they either commit 100% or hesitate and play off him, but no matter what they decide to do he will make them wrong.
      In the 4th quarter of a SuperBowl when everyone's exhausted. Marvin is going to still be able to beat DBs, and he's going to have far more energy left in the tank than someone like Nabers whos been going full-afterburners on every play for the entire game.
      Its not like Nabers can just get coached to have the kind of technique and WR IQ that Marvin has either. He can absolutely improve, don't get me wrong. And he almost certainly will once he gets in the NFL. But Marvin has developed those skills over an entire lifetime of being taught by his NFL hall of fame WR father. They are second nature to him. Its the precision of the execution, all the tiny details, making the cut at the exact right millisecond, chopping the arm at just the right spot on the wrist. Its all those little things being done perfectly that's the difference between it working and it not working. its also why he can make it work without unnecessary exertion. All that extra effort is only needed to make up for lack of technique/sloppy execution.
      All that being said, Nabers would normally be the best WR in his draft year.
      But Marvin is actually a generational talent. That term gets thrown around way to much these days. But it absolutely applies to him.
      Very very few WRs can win routes so hard that they can basically create an uncontested catch with such little effort/exertion. If he's able to continue doing that at the NFL level its going to be amazing to watch.

    • @flagshipnailstudio6970
      @flagshipnailstudio6970 2 месяца назад +24

      Bro, MHJ is the best wr in this draft class easily

    • @Raidori17
      @Raidori17 2 месяца назад +10

      Blantant SEC bias lol

    • @kwillomusic
      @kwillomusic 2 месяца назад +7

      @@e2rqeyyou’re dead on bro!! I agree with everything you said. Your words are perfect. MHJ is just in his own class and I would absolutely take him over any receiver in the draft.

  • @jakesnake2354
    @jakesnake2354 2 месяца назад +32

    My goodness your vid’s take a diff level round this time. Can’t wait for this season. Great vid

  • @craigburgess7105
    @craigburgess7105 2 месяца назад +12

    Excellent analysis - a good insight in to what issues they will face in the NFL and how important what sort of offence you get drafted to.

  • @garybyoosey3163
    @garybyoosey3163 2 месяца назад +19

    If you think about what Alex said in this video and watch the plays, there is a reason Nabers has so many more YAC yds. Alex said that: 1) LSU ran a basic offense where Nabers mostly did stop and go routes. 2) Opposing defenses stopped pressing Nabers. This is why he was wide open on those stop routes and had so much room to run after the catch. You can get open on stop routes all day when the defender is 8-12 yds from you at the snap. Marv is pressed on every play in this video, and he doesn't run a single stop route, and there are a few plays here where he is wide open with room to run and the QB doesn't find him or misses his throw. There are 2 plays in this video that Nabers is pressed and he does stop routes in both with no YAC.

    • @Yes-ml4bw
      @Yes-ml4bw Месяц назад +5

      I guess Nabers being significantly faster, shifter, and making defenders miss had zero to do with it , huh?

    • @garybyoosey3163
      @garybyoosey3163 Месяц назад +3

      @@Yes-ml4bw you are putting words in my mouth. Watch the tape and have some idea about defensive coverages before making offtopic, passive aggressive insults.

    • @Yes-ml4bw
      @Yes-ml4bw Месяц назад +3

      @@garybyoosey3163 or maybe you can just read your post and realize how clueless you sound...

    • @garybyoosey3163
      @garybyoosey3163 Месяц назад +2

      @@Yes-ml4bw At least you stopped being passive aggressive.

    • @Yes-ml4bw
      @Yes-ml4bw Месяц назад

      @@garybyoosey3163 you must have read your comment and decided your best chance at saving face was to deflect.
      What's funny in your own words, you try to put down Nabers but admit that Harrison can't get separation...
      Lol. Like I said, you are clueless...

  • @ArkhamKnight92
    @ArkhamKnight92 2 месяца назад +5

    Love your videos. As always, very well done!

  • @macdaddy111
    @macdaddy111 2 месяца назад +8

    Both are absolute studs!!
    MHJ is like a faster DHop, and Nabers is basically Chase 2.0.
    Can't go wrong with either.

    • @827dusty
      @827dusty 2 месяца назад

      Rome Odunze is better than all of them according to Randy Moss.

    • @charlieherrera7870
      @charlieherrera7870 Месяц назад

      @@827dusty💀

  • @victorsalgado6742
    @victorsalgado6742 2 месяца назад +5

    as a cardinal fan im drooling at the fact we are gonna have one of these 2 for the next decade 🤤

    • @davyanonymous9674
      @davyanonymous9674 29 дней назад

      Better stop drooling.

    • @rob1699
      @rob1699 12 дней назад +1

      Stop drooling cause u guys gonna still suck for the next 10

  • @brandonmartin9117
    @brandonmartin9117 Месяц назад +4

    Draft class remind me of 2014
    Odell, Evan’s, davante, cooks

  • @JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly
    @JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly 2 месяца назад +48

    Alex you just made me hungry with the breakfast, lunch, dinner, and dessert analogies!
    _(Speaking of which, I wonder what the snack would be…🤔)

    • @bigkome
      @bigkome 2 месяца назад +2

      YAC!

    • @Ynkno
      @Ynkno 2 месяца назад +1

      Pause

    • @joeymerlan
      @joeymerlan 2 месяца назад +1

      I see U Comment everywhere

  • @keshavsharma5406
    @keshavsharma5406 2 месяца назад +7

    8:15 "create more separation than Madame Webb and 'good'" 🤣🤣🤣

  • @lenzzzzzzz
    @lenzzzzzzz 2 месяца назад +5

    7:10 this is exactly what I’m talking about with Jayden Daniel’s he always throws the hitch late. Look how long Malik is waiting for that ball.

  • @marcoslabradaify
    @marcoslabradaify 2 месяца назад

    Great video, agreed with what you said at the end about both receivers

  • @topfloorbabe
    @topfloorbabe 2 месяца назад +33

    the quality of these videos has gotten so much better recently, appreciate the consistency too

  • @thomaspearsoniii5806
    @thomaspearsoniii5806 2 месяца назад

    Great video well done

  • @marcodiaz4635
    @marcodiaz4635 2 месяца назад +12

    The Madame Web joke lol great video

  • @erickcalderon19
    @erickcalderon19 2 месяца назад +29

    Ima take Nabers, Harrison doesn't break tackles and isn't a YAC monster

    • @GJTrae
      @GJTrae 2 месяца назад +1

      😂

    • @MER_THE
      @MER_THE 2 месяца назад +3

      Huh Harrison is always doubled i watch my Ohio state Buckeyes faithfully he is clear 1 pick because he is 100% nfl ready and he averaged 140 yards plus every game past 2 seasons that why you hear ESPN and NFL analyst say Marvin is the best player in the draft. His route running is elite when you got a DB press and safety in the back and still ate on every game.

    • @CaesFinest
      @CaesFinest 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@MER_THEis that why he had 4 games with 30 receiving yards or less? Elite my ass.

    • @web1108
      @web1108 2 месяца назад +1

      QB has to take some of the blame for that!@@CaesFinest

    • @LjLong-wx1pk
      @LjLong-wx1pk 2 месяца назад +1

      @@CaesFinestbro jayden Daniel’s was throwing him the ball 😂

  • @bigtrey914
    @bigtrey914 2 месяца назад

    Great breakdown

  • @peterkim4687
    @peterkim4687 2 месяца назад +2

    Hey Alex! I only recently started watching your videos, but they are stellar. I love football more because of your channel. Not sure there is higher praise than that. Thank you for all you do!!

  • @DommyB20
    @DommyB20 Месяц назад

    Awesome Vid

  • @midaszay213
    @midaszay213 2 месяца назад +18

    Chargers traded Keenan so I have to do research on these college receivers I’m sad

    • @teryeborsonin5095
      @teryeborsonin5095 2 месяца назад +1

      MHJr. I’d like a bigger Keenan/Davante, but we’re definitely not getting him, i hope we get nabers

    • @jaretelrage8687
      @jaretelrage8687 2 месяца назад +2

      Same reason I'm here

    • @akasilkyslim
      @akasilkyslim 2 месяца назад +2

      Chargers is where I want Odunze to go I wanna see him play with Herbert

    • @plantbasedcarnivore8210
      @plantbasedcarnivore8210 Месяц назад +1

      And chargers got none of the 3, joke of a franchise.

  • @RMCOVERS.
    @RMCOVERS. 2 месяца назад

    Just got both of them in a draft can’t wait to see how it turns out

  • @MatttheMii
    @MatttheMii 2 месяца назад +8

    Thanks 💯 I'm going to be a freshman next year and I need to learn alot

    • @Ynkno
      @Ynkno 2 месяца назад

      Wr? College?

    • @RaRa-pe9dt
      @RaRa-pe9dt 2 месяца назад

      @@YnknoJesus is Lord

  • @KingzGambitt
    @KingzGambitt 2 месяца назад +3

    It really depends on what your asking them to do. Marvin looks like he projects to be on the ball (X). While Malik looks like he’ll thrive at the Z and could get favorable matchups in the slot. They’re too different styles of receiver, all depends on what your team needs

  • @letanefonoti3
    @letanefonoti3 2 месяца назад +3

    MHJ is that dude. Nabers is so extremely explosive.
    Rome Odunze just has that dog in him... He's who I'd want on my team.

  • @tanimal2042
    @tanimal2042 2 месяца назад +12

    Just for clarification, which WR did you want to see go to AZ? With Nabers, you said you'd like to see a team use him similarly to AJ Brown in Tennessee (over the middle), but said Kyler doesnt target the middle. I love Nabers, but a bigger target on the outside like MHJ feels like a perfect fit for Kyler's skillset.

    • @davidgough8599
      @davidgough8599 2 месяца назад +1

      Did you watch this season? He worked fantastic over the middle using the TE and wide out

    • @tanimal2042
      @tanimal2042 2 месяца назад

      I completely agree. I love what I saw from Kyler under Petzing. I think MHJ is what that offense is missing more so than Nabers though.@@davidgough8599

    • @ki2726
      @ki2726 2 месяца назад +1

      Kyler loved targeting Trey McBride so he does like targeting the middle if he has a reviver he trusts

    • @K1forMVP
      @K1forMVP 2 месяца назад +10

      Alex is wrong on Murray. Kyler targeted the middle the 2nd most of ANY QB in the NFL Last year, only reason he didn’t with Kliff is his offense didn’t use the middle a lot. McBride did all his damage with 81recs/881YDs across the middle, Murray can definitely see the middle of the field.

    • @NinoVerse22
      @NinoVerse22 2 месяца назад

      Exactly Kyler does better with a big body receiver to work the outside it's proven

  • @fantasypolice
    @fantasypolice 2 месяца назад +5

    Turned it off at "Malik is raw". Sorry brother but if you're going to fake it until you make it, at least avoid the obvious pitfalls. MALIK NABERS is one of the more refined receivers in this class (alongside Odunze and Harrison).

  • @JuniorG59_
    @JuniorG59_ 2 месяца назад +11

    I hope one of these guys Gets drafted by the Chargers ⚡

  • @codyzempel5506
    @codyzempel5506 2 месяца назад +11

    Harrison all day...he's a solid #1 who can get those clutch catches, run every route to perfection and just be consistent...Nabors is more of a gimmick type to me, certain down and play type WR..Harrison better technique and just solid WR. Nabors you can get creative but I don't see him taking over a game week in week out whereas Nabors will have peak moments but just not #1

    • @wendyuwaje
      @wendyuwaje 2 месяца назад +4

      Finally someone sees it

    • @Marcueshea
      @Marcueshea Месяц назад

      Haha I’m torn, I’m a student at OSU but a giants fan from NY. Either way I think both of these guys will DOMINATE and will both be top WRs at some point

    • @AB-nv7bz
      @AB-nv7bz Месяц назад

      No one is arguing mhj is better day 1. Route running and release are coachable traits. Taking a slant 40 yards weaving though defenders isn’t.

    • @wendyuwaje
      @wendyuwaje 23 дня назад

      @@AB-nv7bzhow many receivers you know consistently do that. Jamarr, Tyreek sure but you don’t see that nearly as much as the receivers who do what Marv does well. At the end of the day that’s what a prospect is a projection.

  • @NyquillaGorillaKilla
    @NyquillaGorillaKilla 2 месяца назад +3

    I’m just happy seeing someone at least bring the conversation up that maybe marv isn’t as untouchable at wr1 as most try to say. Thanks.

    • @smercxz
      @smercxz 2 месяца назад +12

      No he is that untouchable. Ppl are enamored with the YAC and Speed Nabers has ands that’s good but Marc has speed and elite technique that trumps all that. Nabers is an elite prospect too WR prospect Marv is a level above that. He’s literally a bullet proof pick for whoever picks him he we will come in and already be ahead of what all the nfl coaches are telling him because he’s been doing those exact things his whole life and that’s the difference between and raw elite athletic wr in Nabers and MHJ

    • @NyquillaGorillaKilla
      @NyquillaGorillaKilla 2 месяца назад +2

      @@smercxz he might be in todays perception, but in a few years I think we’ll see that the gap was a lot closer than people think. What Malik can do after the catch more than makes up any difference imo. The missed tackles speaks for itself. MHJ- 6
      Malik- 36
      I think those are the numbers but I maybe off a few.

    • @smercxz
      @smercxz 2 месяца назад +1

      @@NyquillaGorillaKilla Possibly could. But in terms of prospects if I’m a gm and Marv and Nabers are on the board I’m taking Marv because ik barring injury it’s a guaranteed hit. With that said I love all these guys man Nabers, Odunze, Brian Thomas Jr. And plenty more I think all have the ability to make ppl look back in the future and talk about how deep this wr class really.

    • @amcasanave
      @amcasanave 2 месяца назад

      @@smercxz there are no "bullet proof" picks. Harrison hurt his teammates by not doing Pro Day. Is he a selfish a-hole? Maybe.

    • @smercxz
      @smercxz 2 месяца назад

      @@amcasanave Yes he’s bullet proof. And no he didn’t hurt his teammates😂😂😂 He did a prod for CJ who tf was coming out this year from Ohio St. you don’t even know what your talking about you heard that before about someone else and thought it applied here lol cmon bro

  • @kellerlaseure7413
    @kellerlaseure7413 2 месяца назад

    @AlexRollinsNFL where do you get this film from?

    • @K1forMVP
      @K1forMVP 2 месяца назад

      He obviously doesn’t watch film much because if he watched any of Murray’s game last year he would know Murray targets the middle a ton.
      KM targeted the middle the 2nd most of any QB in the NFL Last year via PFF. McBride had 81 receptions/881 YDs all of his damage done over the middle. Kingsburys offense didn’t use the middle much so Kyler didn’t use the middle much, this new west coast offense does and Murray was one of the most efficient QBs in the NFL targeting the middle last year between 10-20YDs in the intermediate area between the numbers.

    • @benjaminfinzen6781
      @benjaminfinzen6781 2 месяца назад

      ​@@K1forMVPYou jerk off to Kyler or something. Jesus Christ, dude.

  • @moonillusions832
    @moonillusions832 2 месяца назад +2

    Phenomenal editing

  • @kevinc2364
    @kevinc2364 2 месяца назад

    Great video its so funny I made a list of NFL comps for some of the top draft prospects and for Nabers I literally had skinny AJ Brown. Glad I was on to something there! For the record I had Harrison as bigger CeeDee Lamb.

    • @justinb9612
      @justinb9612 2 месяца назад

      I personally don’t see the explosiveness that I see from CeeDee

  • @Alex-ye1br
    @Alex-ye1br 2 месяца назад +2

    As a Chargers fan w/ the 5th pick, I'd be shocked if MHJ drops to us but, if he does, we take him. I'd rather try to trade down for more picks than drafting Nabers at 5.

  • @thisisgunnabeachannel362
    @thisisgunnabeachannel362 Месяц назад +1

    I remember watching this when it first dropped hoping the nyg would get one of them and then they actually fucking did… 🤯

  • @terry7907
    @terry7907 2 месяца назад

    Great contrast.

  • @xStrypes
    @xStrypes 2 месяца назад +1

    Definitely the best break down I’ve seen

  • @chawkfan94
    @chawkfan94 2 месяца назад +33

    MJH is 1, no brainer. Then its a toss up between Rome and Nabers. Which is a tough comparison because they are very different types of receivers

    • @blakeramsey3373
      @blakeramsey3373 2 месяца назад +15

      It’s really not. The gap between Marv and nabers is smaller than Rome and nabers

    • @tybeall7716
      @tybeall7716 2 месяца назад +19

      Nope, it’s definitely a toss up Between MJH and Nabors. Rome is in a category behind them too.

    • @gemicah9264
      @gemicah9264 2 месяца назад +3

      Nabers played better defenses and had another top recto share the rock with . You put nabers at Ohio state he’d do even more than mhj

    • @calebhoffman6368
      @calebhoffman6368 2 месяца назад +2

      @@gemicah9264 lol

    • @vinzetti22
      @vinzetti22 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@gemicah9264 yea but he didn't do all that out of the x. He crushed it in the slot

  • @markcobeen941
    @markcobeen941 2 месяца назад

    PS, I enjoy your videos!

  • @alienOG-zh2xs
    @alienOG-zh2xs 2 месяца назад +1

    Can you do a video comparing Nabers to Odunze?

  • @danielmeuler2877
    @danielmeuler2877 2 месяца назад +1

    The 2024 WR Class is Insanely talented. I believe it will go down as one of the best, if not the best group of WR's.

  • @dmoneymusik365
    @dmoneymusik365 2 месяца назад

    what is the beat at 3:30? so nice

  • @K1forMVP
    @K1forMVP 2 месяца назад +17

    Uhh Murray targeted the middle of the field the 2nd most of ANY QB IN THE NFL last year via PFF, the only reason he didn’t with Kliff is because the middle of the field isn’t a big part of his NFL. Maybe check the facts before parroting weak talking points next time. Murray doesn’t have a problem seeing the middle of the field.

  • @markd7762
    @markd7762 Месяц назад +1

    Scary part with MHJ is he could easily still add 5-10 lbs of muscle allowing him to be more physical at the point of attack. He's a matchup nightmare. If the Cards pass on him I'll be furious

    • @AB-nv7bz
      @AB-nv7bz Месяц назад

      No bro he can’t. It’s doesn’t work like that. Ya maybe 5-10 over the 5-8 years. He needs speed fat or muscle makes you slower. Also no one is gaining 5-10 points of lean mass after already training for a decade.

    • @markd7762
      @markd7762 Месяц назад

      @@AB-nv7bz With all due respect, men don't hit their physical prime until around 26. So yes, it may take him a few years to get there but it's not completely out of the realm of possibility for him to add more muscle to his frame. Also keep in mind NFL strength and conditioning programs are among the best in the world.

    • @AB-nv7bz
      @AB-nv7bz Месяц назад

      @@markd7762 you’re not understanding how much 5-10lbs of lean mass actually is for someone who has trained as long as he has. Building muscle isn’t some magic. Nfl programs are typically geared toward injury prevention and recover, not adding strength and mass.
      5-10 more pounds means a reduction in speed and quickness.
      It’s kind of unheard of for a top player at a skill position to gain more weight in their career. If anything they lose weight to keep speed.
      I’m not saying he can’t do it, but it will make him a worse football player.

  • @KenjiMapes
    @KenjiMapes Месяц назад

    Nice video & good analysis. Thanks for your work on this Alex.
    Both have an onus of pedigree hanging over them. Now I’m a diehard NY Giants fan & thrilled that Malik Nabers is wearing Giants blue. I was actually torn between Nabers & Rome Odunze where my preference changed a few times. It’s a basically just that - preference as you can’t basically lose in choosing any of the three.
    Back to onus. Marvin Harrison Jr was literally made to be a professional football player & wide receiver. He has the onus, specter & burden of having to live up to his pedigree & will forever be compared to his legendary father. Will it be a burden or blessing? If Wan’Dale & Hyatt can take next level leaps, then we should have one of the best WR groups in the league.
    Nabers has to live up to the LSU receiver hype train. Odell. Ja’Marr Chase. Etc It’s certainly no where near Harrison Jr’s pressure though. I’m sure they’ll be fine. The Giants needed a taller receiver but even though Nabers isn’t one of the taller receivers at 6’ we had to pick him because a #1 WR was our biggest need. He’s freaking explosive. When you watch his tape you can just see he plays at another speed & has that extra gear. Our receiving corps has a core of Nabers, Darius Slayton, Wan’Dale Robinson & Jalin Hyatt. That is a talented & impressive group. They’re all different & present as a balanced & deep group who have diverse skill sets.
    This is a group that could be very dangerous & productive. Nabers was one of the best prospects in the draft. Slayton is Mr Steady. Wan’Dale took a big leap after a rookie year in which he flashed but got hirt for the year around midway through. Jalin Hyatt showed off his world class speed & proved he isn’t a one-trick pony & is more polished than just a speed demon.
    But what a class of receivers. The 2024 receiver class will certainly go down in history. Two little asides. Of course the freaking Chiefs had to draft 40 year combine record smasher Xavier 4:21 Worthy😨🫤 FSU stud receiver Keon Colemen’s first presser went viral due to his charming personality & comedic charisma. The 6’4” 216lb Keon Coleman fell to the first pick in Round 2 due to his “slow” 4:61 combine 40 time despite strong production & excellent tape. This kid is precocious, super likable & has his head screwed on correctly. I think he’s going to be a good one. He could have a DK Metcalf type of trajectory. I’m pulling for the kid🙂👍
    Can’t wait for the season now!😁

  • @dchen2140
    @dchen2140 2 месяца назад +4

    We can just stop at the releases honestly. Knowing how to separate is the most important trait for me in scouting WRs. Seen too many "explosive" "burners" "physical" WRs get to the NFL and just become average athletes.

    • @bc_qbeval
      @bc_qbeval 2 месяца назад

      Nabers separated just fine against Terrion Arnold, Kool-Aid McKinstry, and Caleb Downs.

    • @wendyuwaje
      @wendyuwaje Месяц назад

      @@bc_qbevalno he didn’t. If you watch tape where he’s actually matched up on press he striggled. Most of his plays that game where against the safety and linebacker.

    • @bc_qbeval
      @bc_qbeval Месяц назад

      @@wendyuwaje yes he did. It's YOU who needs to go back and watch the tape. You're wrong.

    • @wendyuwaje
      @wendyuwaje Месяц назад

      @@bc_qbevalshow me the dominant tape in PRESS not the slot then I’ll believe you. Title if the video and time. If I’m wrong I’ll eat it.

    • @AB-nv7bz
      @AB-nv7bz Месяц назад

      No cause that’s a learned trait.

  • @AtlasAdvice254
    @AtlasAdvice254 2 месяца назад +1

    Marv is skill paired with size, has arguably the best hands and route running ability in the class (only person in the discussion on that is Ladd) and he’s already filled out his frame. Malik is an incredible talent but Marv is the definition of the term generational

    • @AB-nv7bz
      @AB-nv7bz Месяц назад

      Lol. Hype train anyone. 6’3” 200lbs with 4.5 speed isn’t generational. Calvin Johnson and Randy Moss were generational.

  • @fyuriusryage5353
    @fyuriusryage5353 2 месяца назад +2

    Isn't the X position essentially what another LSU product (#JJETTAS2) plays? I see a ton of similarity here.

    • @wendyuwaje
      @wendyuwaje Месяц назад

      There’s no similarity in their games at all outside the school they went toZ

  • @theactualshadow
    @theactualshadow 2 месяца назад +4

    the editing on this alex 😮😮😮

  • @coryt93
    @coryt93 Месяц назад

    They’re both going to be incredible in their own right. Top 10 WRs in the NFL, maybe top 5.

  • @OBbroncos43
    @OBbroncos43 2 месяца назад +1

    It’s a 1a and 1b. Marvin’s last name definitely is a big reason he’s so hyped but he’s still an elite prospect

  • @classicview
    @classicview 2 месяца назад +6

    Alex's football acumen is second to none

    • @markcobeen941
      @markcobeen941 2 месяца назад

      LoL...I doubt hes gonna sleep with you.
      But good luck

  • @devinjohnson9749
    @devinjohnson9749 2 месяца назад +8

    Nabers put up those numbers while having another #1 elite WR on the field with him

    • @1guard4
      @1guard4 2 месяца назад +7

      And a elite quarterback throwing him the ball.

    • @Unknown-ox1yq
      @Unknown-ox1yq 2 месяца назад +2

      Emeke Egbuka might not be on the level of Brian Thomas Jr. but also could have easily been a first round selection had he declared. Nabers also had a Heisman winner throwing him the ball versus what Marvin Harrison Jr had.

    • @Lil-k47
      @Lil-k47 2 месяца назад

      but take into account that LSU is in the SEC, for me personally, this seperates MHJ and Nabers, MHJ is the more 'complete WR' but either option is great from the NFL teams@@Unknown-ox1yq

    • @cohenbecker3542
      @cohenbecker3542 2 месяца назад +2

      So did marv bro, emeka egbuka was said to be the #2 wr going into the 2023 season and was gonna be a first round pick but then he got hurt

    • @AB-nv7bz
      @AB-nv7bz Месяц назад

      @@cohenbecker3542so he didn’t cause the guy got hurt. Lol

  • @pristinedecision1877
    @pristinedecision1877 2 месяца назад +2

    I’m new to the ins and outs of football especially in contrast to how much I know about basketball but Marvin Harrison using D-Line techniques to beat press coverage at the LOS is so cool.
    It probably is something other receivers do as well but I have never paid attention to how these elite receivers win beyond using their measurable and athleticism.

  • @sebentertainment286
    @sebentertainment286 2 месяца назад +2

    My take is Nabers will be the better receiver in the nfl with an impact like Chase.
    Let’s see how this take ages

  • @rawswisher43
    @rawswisher43 2 месяца назад +3

    Will you do a Jayden or Drake video?

  • @richardo8620
    @richardo8620 2 месяца назад +1

    There is no comparison. Harrison is the best PLAYER in this draft or any other in a long time. In the right system, he will be the game changer.

  • @brodyrush7832
    @brodyrush7832 2 месяца назад +1

    can we get an odunze breakdown?

  • @gregshoopman6369
    @gregshoopman6369 2 месяца назад +1

    every year theres always hip around some dude late in the scouting process because everyone gets bored. Marv is the best. Marv can do everything Nabers does and he does more things better.

  • @ReconcilemE
    @ReconcilemE 2 месяца назад

    Things I noticed
    Harrison: takes a back step on some of his releases and looks likes he takes plays off. But uses leverage wisely
    Neighbors: Has potential with his size but at the same time elite speed and reminds me of JJ but doesn't come back to routes

  • @Rx_Lee
    @Rx_Lee 2 месяца назад +1

    If the Titans take him watch out OMG D Hop, and Ridley on the outside with Nabers in the slot. Now that would be some firepower.

  • @JaCass30
    @JaCass30 2 месяца назад

    The thought of nabers speed and Herbert’s arm 🤤

  • @daniekogivens5042
    @daniekogivens5042 2 месяца назад

    That's crazy, when I really started looking at Nabers, I had the same AJB comparison.. with him being smaller it's like you take the bully ball out of AJ but because he's smaller he's noticably more explosive.

    • @smercxz
      @smercxz 2 месяца назад +1

      That wouldn’t be AJ then with the bully ball lol. I see a stronger OBJ in his game that RAC ability he has is ELITE but he’s more physical then OBJ while being just as explosive

    • @daniekogivens5042
      @daniekogivens5042 2 месяца назад +1

      @@smercxz Yeah that's a pretty good comp. Odell was a little more nuanced of a route runner coming out and Nabers isn't as special at the catch point.. but really who is lol I would say Nabers has another gear that Odell never had, which sounds ridiculous, but he is so damn explosive.

    • @smercxz
      @smercxz 2 месяца назад

      @@daniekogivens5042 ooo how about this one bro I saw someone comp him to AB and I can see that one too if he gets better at the point of attack like you said. He def does have a similar build to AB I’d say

    • @majestyirving1372
      @majestyirving1372 2 месяца назад

      @@smercxzhe gives me a faster deebo vibe looked antsy on the outside multiple times in press

  • @1guard4
    @1guard4 2 месяца назад +1

    Harrison had McCord throwing to him that in itself makes him the best receiver in the draft.

  • @jeffbrown1829
    @jeffbrown1829 2 месяца назад +2

    i was taking mhj with the first pick if i were the bears

  • @jok3r_tr1ckster96
    @jok3r_tr1ckster96 2 месяца назад +1

    I think both'll be productive in the NFL.

  • @agent_JorDi
    @agent_JorDi 2 месяца назад +2

    Ad Mitchell vs Troy Franklin would be nice for this series

    • @MarchOnRome
      @MarchOnRome 2 месяца назад +5

      Adonai is leagues better than Franklin lol. Size, route running, traits, etc..Troy is likely a 2nd round pick that will be only a deep threat. He’s also very small & not a WR1 or WR2

    • @agent_JorDi
      @agent_JorDi 2 месяца назад

      @@MarchOnRome absolutely insane 😂😂😂 ok we’ll see. Troy’s tape don’t even indicate he’s “only a deep threat” but this is what makes draft season fun 😂

  • @murphyslaw7815
    @murphyslaw7815 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm taking Harrison Jr all day. He's already that good and going to get better.

  • @malikking3
    @malikking3 2 месяца назад +2

    Great video well done. Nabers is twitchy to me and that is good while Harrison Jr. is Technical to me which is also good. Depends on what traits the teams want but all in all can't go wrong with either. Nabers though has that elite level twitch and elite speed that you can't teach so he's the one for me.

  • @richardpcrowe
    @richardpcrowe 2 месяца назад

    I could just imagine Justin Herbert's deep ball skills with Malik Nabers' blazing speed.
    OTOH... would it not be fun if a team had both MHJ and Brenden Rice as receivers. Two ball catchers who are the sons of two of the elite wide receivers of all time.

  • @steveparish4209
    @steveparish4209 2 месяца назад

    As a Chargers fan who just watch Keenan Allen traded away to clear cap space, which was the right move btw, I love the fact they're sitting in the #5 spot and will likely get a crack at one of these two receivers. They went with Quentin Johnston last year over Zay Flowers, who was the safer pick, hoping Johnston's rawness could be coached up to his projected high ceiling. It hasn't happened yet so to me, if they get the choice, Harrison is the better pick. But, if he's gone and Nabers is there, you take him, for sure.

  • @phashondon3493
    @phashondon3493 Месяц назад

    Ayyye Yoo.. Getting into Nabers was wild!! But Marvin will the safer pick

  • @Swerve-Online
    @Swerve-Online 2 месяца назад +1

    Got to go with Nabors. After a year in the NFL to refine his technique, he will be way better.

    • @wendyuwaje
      @wendyuwaje 2 месяца назад +1

      You can’t refine technique at an elite level in the nfl.

  • @Ellis_Hugh
    @Ellis_Hugh 2 месяца назад +6

    Truly elite WR's don't disappear in a third of their games against inferior competition...
    MHJr vs. Minnesota: 3 catches for 30 yards
    MHJr vs. Rutgers: 4 catches for 25 yards
    MHJr vs. Notre Dame: 3 catches for 32 yards
    MHJr vs. Indiana: 2 catches for 18 yards

    • @Alex-wg4xd
      @Alex-wg4xd 2 месяца назад +3

      Harrison was double up a large majority of the year because Egbuka had to get tightrope surgery and Fleming couldn't win 1 on 1. Plus McCord was horrible, you could see it in some of the clips shown.

    • @sunnyrobinson2128
      @sunnyrobinson2128 2 месяца назад +8

      Terrible QB

    • @hudsonknisley3843
      @hudsonknisley3843 2 месяца назад +6

      Okay but he had 100+ yard against Georgia, Michigan, Penn state, etc. So who cares how he played against teams like IU, he’s shown he can dominate against 1st round defensive backs

    • @Ellis_Hugh
      @Ellis_Hugh 2 месяца назад

      @@hudsonknisley3843He's shown that he only shows up 2/3 of the time...

    • @hudsonknisley3843
      @hudsonknisley3843 2 месяца назад +4

      @@Ellis_Hugh so just because his stats Arnt good means he didn’t show up?? I’m the Minnesota game he got pulled by the second half, vs Rutgers he had 2 td’s, vs Notre dame he didn’t do as well but he still had some clutch catches to win the game, and the IU game was McCords first game. I was at the IU game and marv was open 90% of the time, McCord missed him in most of the throws. Stats don’t tell the whole story, watch the games

  • @hawaiiguykailua6928
    @hawaiiguykailua6928 8 дней назад

    I saw "analysts" regurgitate MHJ comparison to Calvin Johnson. On what planet does their weed come from? 😂

  • @rexfordmorgan7552
    @rexfordmorgan7552 2 месяца назад

    Harrison is the type of guy who in a couple years will be thought of as a superstar who racks up redzone tds, he’s too technically talented and motivated on improving technique like a pro to be anything less with that body.

  • @TheFleeeg
    @TheFleeeg 2 месяца назад +1

    Rome Odunze has the latest and best hands out of the 3

  • @DetroitTyler
    @DetroitTyler 2 месяца назад

    Nabers is electric with the ball in his hands, reminds me of Odell that way when he first entered the league, I think Harrison Jr is the better all around WR and is more NFL ready. Nabers needs some polish and I wouldn't be surprised if his ceiling is higher than Marvin Harrison's after a few seasons in the league. If Nabers can work on his releases that'll go a long long way.

  • @natthakitkorsawatpat4300
    @natthakitkorsawatpat4300 13 дней назад

    Nabers is the lab mixed of Chase and JJettas. he just needs precisive QB and times to fix his body action. MHJ is considered WR1 because he is a skill perfection.

  • @slimeslime7968
    @slimeslime7968 2 месяца назад

    As a Ohio state fan both of them are what a reciever should have ability to catch the football speed and strength both have those but last season one had a better qb and one didn’t but all that doesn’t matter we could have opinions but the facts will be shown when they both step on the nfl field 💯

  • @tonetonebone
    @tonetonebone 2 месяца назад

    Need an Odunze video

  • @nathanielemmons1924
    @nathanielemmons1924 2 месяца назад +1

    I like both players but I also think odunze is right there with them.my bears better not mess this up.go bears

  • @tfive1060
    @tfive1060 2 месяца назад

    I'll be picking one of these guys for my fantasy rookie draft. Everyone says Harrison is the best, but when I watch them it seem like Marv doesn't create much separation. With Nabers it seems like there isn't anyone within 5 yards of him when he catches it. And he torches defenders and is way better after the catch than Marv. Let me know what you guys think. Who should I pick? I need help!

    • @Hccxddfyujm
      @Hccxddfyujm 2 месяца назад +1

      Your a troll, pick Nabers and live with the consequences

    • @garybyoosey3163
      @garybyoosey3163 2 месяца назад

      Pay attention to how they are defended in this video. It's completely different. In the NFL, Nabers probably won't have the advantage of having no one within 10 yds of him when the ball is snapped.

  • @InsufficientFundz84
    @InsufficientFundz84 2 месяца назад +1

    Nabers will be the first receiver off the board

  • @themasonera
    @themasonera 2 месяца назад +2

    No debate Harrison easily

  • @bobbyrobles358
    @bobbyrobles358 10 дней назад

    Marvin Harrison jr. Is like DK Metcalf and I think every team should try to have a DK as a receiver number 1

  • @joeyhuynh5893
    @joeyhuynh5893 2 месяца назад +2

    this need for a number receiver started when stefon diggs went to buffalo and proved he was a number 1 and josh allen taking that leap. it was those two that changed the landscape of the league and every gm and coach saw it

    • @MrEmmanuelmack
      @MrEmmanuelmack 2 месяца назад

      Also Tua getting hill hurts getting AJ brown

    • @joeyhuynh5893
      @joeyhuynh5893 2 месяца назад

      @@MrEmmanuelmack I agree but it was josh and Stefon that started this trend in the nfl and the eagles and dolphins followed suit. They merely confirmed like that a QB needs a number one weapon. Like right after josh and Stefon it was jamar and Joe

  • @garion333
    @garion333 2 месяца назад

    I'll take...both!

  • @rashan2424
    @rashan2424 2 месяца назад

    This is like the AJ Green, Julio situation in 2011. Except Julio was like 6'5

  • @SoCalmJoe
    @SoCalmJoe 2 месяца назад

    Something tells me Rome has a new empire.

  • @norrisrico
    @norrisrico Месяц назад

    Nabers, it's the 5th gear aspect. He can explode suddenly that separates him.

  • @Silencer21
    @Silencer21 2 месяца назад +1

    Nabers for sure

  • @Hollywdq
    @Hollywdq 2 месяца назад +1

    Love Nabers BUT Harrison is a GENERATIONAL type of receiver!

  • @ricardoj85
    @ricardoj85 2 месяца назад

    So... If the class is stacked with WRs
    . Get your best cornerback..???

  • @mattesyl33
    @mattesyl33 2 месяца назад

    Fans forget that it's not just who's better now, but who will be better over the next decade plus. They are both elite.

  • @daniel-ym9un
    @daniel-ym9un 2 месяца назад +2

    I've got the 1.01 and the 1.02 in my main 1 QB dynasty league. Taking them both, and not thinking twice about it.

    • @Hccxddfyujm
      @Hccxddfyujm 2 месяца назад

      Bowers over nabers don’t ruin ur future