Since we started this channel in the 2018/19 season, the best college players we have scouted have been (roughly in order) Joe Burrow Penei Sewell Sauce Gardner Jalen Carter Jamar Chase CJ Stroud Marvin Harrison Jr now sits atop this list with ridiculous athleticism, a polished game beyond his years - and virtually flawless tape. Rome Odunze drops friday - and hopefully one more on the weekend!
@@popsmcgee4153 You do realise this video contains multiple clips of him playing and beating Notre Dame I watched McCord constantly throw the ball late to him and miss him for the game winner - he was having to lay out and make wordlies to even get close to the ball - McCord was terrible that game.
@@ThinkingFootballmy man you are not the only one who scouts football what was the excuse when he had CJ Stroud throwing to him against Notre dame in 2022??? Watch the Michigan tape he completely gave up on routes especially that first pick Will Johnson just beat him to the ball for him to be this generation talent he sure is lazy. Without his dad last name he’s a regular receiver. Washingtons Receivers were better Both LSU receivers Keon Coleman shit even Ebuka are better . Yall on this boy Johnson because of his daddy. Fun fact Marvin Harrison killed somebody and got away with it . Google it.
Watch the film not just the highlights from any game last year! His receivers had to save him on almost every throw, rarely caught receivers in stride constantly threw behind, way in front or at receivers feet but yea you right its Days fault! @@pascho1057
I was convinced by 2:08 of this video. He has elite agility and ball tracking… it’s like he answers the question, ‘what if Antonio Brown was taller? And also more stable mentally?’
What if Julio Jones had played for coaches who didn't mind going to him inside the red zone? I'm not sure if that explains why he had double-digit TDs just once in his 13-season career. But being stuck in the wrong organization may have some bearing on that. The only decent QB on a team picking in the first 10 spots is the Chargers/Justin Herbert at #5. I hope MHJ has better luck finding his first NFL home than JJ. Ending up in NYC could be disastrous.
@@jefferyroy2566 what? if he goes to kyler they will be fine. kyler has become crazy underrated. killf kingsbury was an awful playcaller and coach, his o line has been trash fro like 4 years already and now he has a defensive HC. he came back from an ACL and performed well. also kirk cousins in w the flacons now so thats a pretty good landing spot.
It’s insane how good the scouting is on this channel. He’s literally spot on with all his scouting. Lmao he definitely predicted Cj would be the best qb in the class before the draft!!! That’s nuts!
This man is insane 🤯🤯. As a cardinals fan, before this video I was like how is MHJ so hyped up, and I even got mad at it. But after watching this, OMG, he's in his own tier of player.
I'm a biased OSU fan but he's one of those dudes where the stats don't do him justice. It's pretty obvious he's the best WR in CFB in a long time, for all the reasons that was stated in this video.
@@PewpshmearStats don’t always do great players like this justice. He commands so much attention and respect that it makes life easier for his teammates. So even when he’s not making plays he’s still making an impact by demanding attention. Type of player you build an offense around.
The stats did do him justice though. He was a Heisman Finalist and won the Biletnikoff award. It's not like he had some pedestrian stats, he finished tied for 3rd in TD's and was top 10 in receiving yards @@Pewpshmear
@@ThinkingFootballwhen the draft stuff is over can you please breakdown Chris jones tape ? Nobody has a film review on him and he’s a future hall of fame player
It's so impressive how he plays through contact. Everything he does is impressive, but some of the other guys in the class have trouble when they get contact in the route he doesn't.
Wow, big props coming from this channel! Can’t wait to watch your eval of Jeremiah Smith in 3 years. Word coming out of spring practice is he’s already the best WR on the team and is gonna be a day 1 starter. Friggin crazy if true.
JJ smith is a DAWG kid might be better than Marv collegiately which speaks on how good he is already imagine the development in 2-3 yrs sheesh. Don’t forget Dezie Jones and possible Dakorien Moore too Dezie Already committed to OSU he is like Garrett Wilson his route running is nasty
Excellent video; your breakdowns definitely help someone like me who is less knowledgeable on these matters understand what I am seeing. You're definitely the best in the business right now. I discovered this channel on the Smith-Njigba breakdown, and I've been watching your videos ever since.
As a Cardinals fan I want them to draft him more than anyone. I understand the argument of getting a good haul and trading back, that's smart, but I'd rather take a chance at not just a potentially good receiver, but an elite receiver. We had Fitz for what felt like 30 years, he came up big so many times, having an elite receiver makes a huge difference in an offense. Obviously it doesn't necessarily equal Super Bowls because it's the Cardinals, I feel like as long as there is a Bidwell in charge we'll never win one but at least Harrison helps solve a major need, improves the offense, and...will probably end his career with the Cardinals without a Super Bowl ring. If we're going to lose, let's at least lose with elite talent that makes the game fun to watch.
I sat down watching this and didn't realize I hadn't even logged into my computer yet. oops. Another player I can't wait to watch in the NFL. Thanks for your take on him.
Calvin Johnson was a lot like this. Calvin was the best ever at jump balls. I think MHJ has softer hands maybe a little better body control. He is going to be a superstar for sure.
Bout to carry that straight into a HOF career! I have no doubt barring injuries! Going to miss my guy in a Buckeye Uniform but bro we ridin witchu! O-H!!!
I grew up loving Harrison Snr and how he carried himself. Loved Jerry Rice's career that I saw as well and even played against his oldest son. Such a trip seeing all these II's and III's but I'm all for it
I'm absolutely sold on MHJ after watching this video. My only question is about his release. In most of these clips, he's allowed to release without much contact. In the nfl, corners are better and able to play with more contact. Will increased physicality in the nfl disrupt his releases in a significant way? I think he's still talented enough that it won't matter but may be a learning curve for him
Interesting video, as several analysts think Malik Nabors is the best WR available in this season's draft. You should do a video on him as well and compare the two of them.
Would also be interested in your opinion on how these guys compare to the other players of their position with similar draft expectations. Obviously doesn‘t make much sense with Marvin Harrison because he is gonna be the first wr of the board anyway. But for example could be cool in case you‘re planning a breakdown of either Verse or Turner.
That is super awesome now. That on draft day we've learned that the chargers are apparently going going to take the second best offensive tackle in the Draft at number five instead of a wide receiver
dudes gonna be a monster in the league. I disagreed with your video about Maye being a top 3 pick, but MHJ is gonna make a huge difference at the next level.
An idea for an offseason video would be to analyze Nico Collin’s development into a WR1. He exploded onto the scene and established himself as a dominant YAC threat this season.
If he can get off of press consistently and limit his drops he will be hof. Route runner physical tough great vision smart etc. doesn’t have breakaway speed but is a perfect wr
Marvin Harrison Jr. is a generational talent that I think everyone who passes on him will regret in a couple of years. As a Washington fan, I was hoping that we would keep Sam Howell and draft him, but I don't make any decisions around here.
I agree with everything said here. However, there’s only one thing that concerns me, and it’s something I don’t see people bring up, his drops. He had a 6.9% drop rate last season. Not bad, but it is slightly below average. The average NFL drop rate in 2023 was 6.7%. That’s slightly concerning, but he’s also shown the ability to make any catch on the field, so it’s not too big of a problem. Other than that though, I’ve got nothing. He’s a fantastic prospect.
Drop statistics can be a murky one because everyone seems to measure them differently Any drop I spotted from last year's tape was on horrible placement by McCord - he's very rarely, if ever dropping easy balls - nothing that should scare you away from stamping the elite status
Each video takes 30-50 hours to produce unfortunately For an NFL team video I'll typically watch between 6-8 games, but QB evals I watch double that, and big scheme videos like the meta video contain clips from 30+ games We also make sure to script our work so we don't waffle and bring you accurate and considered information - which takes a lot of time with rewrites Then heavily edited graphical videos take about an hour per minute to produce - for example I started editing this 7pm last night, and finished at 7am Appreciate the love and want for our content, it's coming I promise, all your likes and comments greatly help
He should have won the Heisman trophy but that's a quarterback award same as the most valuable quarterback award for the NFL. AKA most valuable player award
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Since we started this channel in the 2018/19 season, the best college players we have scouted have been (roughly in order)
Joe Burrow
Penei Sewell
Sauce Gardner
Jalen Carter
Jamar Chase
CJ Stroud
Marvin Harrison Jr now sits atop this list with ridiculous athleticism, a polished game beyond his years - and virtually flawless tape.
Rome Odunze drops friday - and hopefully one more on the weekend!
You've hit the mark on all these picks. Great work.
do kool aid , purest press man corner‼️
Flawless tape??? Please watch that Notre Dame Game. Both of them
@@popsmcgee4153 You do realise this video contains multiple clips of him playing and beating Notre Dame
I watched McCord constantly throw the ball late to him and miss him for the game winner - he was having to lay out and make wordlies to even get close to the ball - McCord was terrible that game.
@@ThinkingFootballmy man you are not the only one who scouts football what was the excuse when he had CJ Stroud throwing to him against Notre dame in 2022??? Watch the Michigan tape he completely gave up on routes especially that first pick Will Johnson just beat him to the ball for him to be this generation talent he sure is lazy. Without his dad last name he’s a regular receiver. Washingtons Receivers were better Both LSU receivers Keon Coleman shit even Ebuka are better . Yall on this boy Johnson because of his daddy. Fun fact Marvin Harrison killed somebody and got away with it . Google it.
Not surprising his route running is so good considering his dad might be the greatest route runner ever.
Got it in the DNA
That’s still pretty surprising
@@IndexInvestingWithCole Well Marvin Sr. was likely coaching him up his whole life, which is why it's not surprising to me.
One of the clips in the video made me laugh because it's really uncanny how much his feints look like his dad's.
Sometimes though the best players are the worst coaches
The fact that he made Kyle McCord look competent is proof enough for me that he is S tier
Kyle McCord is overhated he’s not bad Ryan day is
Watch the film not just the highlights from any game last year! His receivers had to save him on almost every throw, rarely caught receivers in stride constantly threw behind, way in front or at receivers feet but yea you right its Days fault! @@pascho1057
@@pascho1057Your right McCord is over hated, but Day is a great coach
@@pascho1057McCord was not a good qb man
@@pascho1057two things can be true.
When your dad is Marvin Harrison Sr. route running is in your DNA
I was convinced by 2:08 of this video. He has elite agility and ball tracking… it’s like he answers the question, ‘what if Antonio Brown was taller? And also more stable mentally?’
What if Julio Jones had played for coaches who didn't mind going to him inside the red zone? I'm not sure if that explains why he had double-digit TDs just once in his 13-season career. But being stuck in the wrong organization may have some bearing on that. The only decent QB on a team picking in the first 10 spots is the Chargers/Justin Herbert at #5. I hope MHJ has better luck finding his first NFL home than JJ. Ending up in NYC could be disastrous.
@@jefferyroy2566Cardinals is a good spot and the most likely spot for Marv too
Calvin Johnson?
We'll see about that second part.
@@jefferyroy2566 what? if he goes to kyler they will be fine. kyler has become crazy underrated. killf kingsbury was an awful playcaller and coach, his o line has been trash fro like 4 years already and now he has a defensive HC. he came back from an ACL and performed well. also kirk cousins in w the flacons now so thats a pretty good landing spot.
One of the best pure receivers I've seen in years. He does everything well has great size and hands. Beast
It’s insane how good the scouting is on this channel. He’s literally spot on with all his scouting. Lmao he definitely predicted Cj would be the best qb in the class before the draft!!! That’s nuts!
This man is insane 🤯🤯. As a cardinals fan, before this video I was like how is MHJ so hyped up, and I even got mad at it. But after watching this, OMG, he's in his own tier of player.
I'm a biased OSU fan but he's one of those dudes where the stats don't do him justice. It's pretty obvious he's the best WR in CFB in a long time, for all the reasons that was stated in this video.
Normally when you hear a former nfl player has a kid, he will be put under a microscope.
@@PewpshmearStats don’t always do great players like this justice. He commands so much attention and respect that it makes life easier for his teammates. So even when he’s not making plays he’s still making an impact by demanding attention. Type of player you build an offense around.
The stats did do him justice though. He was a Heisman Finalist and won the Biletnikoff award. It's not like he had some pedestrian stats, he finished tied for 3rd in TD's and was top 10 in receiving yards @@Pewpshmear
Your college scouting videos are the best
Someone had to say it 🔥
Marvin’s tape makes me wonder just how good Randy Moss’ tape coming out was. Randy was even more unstoppable 🤯 MHJ is the real deal tho
My absolute favourite player - If I ever get ahold of 1997 Marshall tape I'll drop a retro breakdown
@@ThinkingFootballwhen the draft stuff is over can you please breakdown Chris jones tape ? Nobody has a film review on him and he’s a future hall of fame player
@@isaiahmcconnell That sounds like a great offfseason video
@@ThinkingFootballAs a d line coach, I’m in for a Chris jones video 😂
@@ThinkingFootball oh hell yea that would be cool... a retro vid
I just want to say I really appreciate your channel. I've learned a lot about football and your production values are great. Subscribed!
Appreciate the love - glad I can help you learn, lots more teaching tape coming this summer
It's so impressive how he plays through contact. Everything he does is impressive, but some of the other guys in the class have trouble when they get contact in the route he doesn't.
I’ve definitely learned so much already from watching your videos, you make the tape breakdown so easy to follow! Big fan!
good breakdown I am glad my Birds got him
MHJ is so damn polished, brings a tear to my eye… I pray he goes to a team with a franchise QB
Cardinals?
@@EliasRijkenthem or the chargers
Yeah like NOT the Cardinals
@@stephengrinkley9889 u are crazy if u think kyler isnt a franchise QB. he is easily a top 12 QB in the league
Imagine this dude in Buffalo or KC.
Bold statement, with the outstanding work y'all have put in in this channel.
What a great video clip! I learned a lot about the art of route running today. Thanks!
Just from watching this one video I feel like I learned more about wide receiving than I've known in my entire life.
Wow, big props coming from this channel! Can’t wait to watch your eval of Jeremiah Smith in 3 years. Word coming out of spring practice is he’s already the best WR on the team and is gonna be a day 1 starter. Friggin crazy if true.
JJ smith is a DAWG kid might be better than Marv collegiately which speaks on how good he is already imagine the development in 2-3 yrs sheesh.
Don’t forget Dezie Jones and possible Dakorien Moore too Dezie Already committed to OSU he is like Garrett Wilson his route running is nasty
Excellent video; your breakdowns definitely help someone like me who is less knowledgeable on these matters understand what I am seeing. You're definitely the best in the business right now. I discovered this channel on the Smith-Njigba breakdown, and I've been watching your videos ever since.
Best in the Business?
Why doesn't he work for an NFL team?
@@RK-um9tu Couldn't answer that. But he hasn't been wrong about a prospect yet.
I love your college prospect analysis, it's clutch for dynasty fantasy football drafts. Hope they keep coming!
That Stroud throw 🔥💯 MHJ is like Julio and Larry Fitz had a baby
As a Cardinals fan I want them to draft him more than anyone. I understand the argument of getting a good haul and trading back, that's smart, but I'd rather take a chance at not just a potentially good receiver, but an elite receiver. We had Fitz for what felt like 30 years, he came up big so many times, having an elite receiver makes a huge difference in an offense. Obviously it doesn't necessarily equal Super Bowls because it's the Cardinals, I feel like as long as there is a Bidwell in charge we'll never win one but at least Harrison helps solve a major need, improves the offense, and...will probably end his career with the Cardinals without a Super Bowl ring. If we're going to lose, let's at least lose with elite talent that makes the game fun to watch.
So, waste another HOF career for your enjoyment?
yea, na.
@@joshuawood1436exactly. I want it wasted on a guy who makes be believe even though I know Michael Bidwell will probably find a way to screw it up.
Hearing you so legitimately excited about a prospect is awesome!
Great content, hopefully everything works out better this year...
I sat down watching this and didn't realize I hadn't even logged into my computer yet. oops. Another player I can't wait to watch in the NFL. Thanks for your take on him.
Calvin Johnson was a lot like this. Calvin was the best ever at jump balls. I think MHJ has softer hands maybe a little better body control. He is going to be a superstar for sure.
Larry Fitzgerald was a beast at jump balls, also.
Those are big big words!! You are the goat so I believe it!!!!!!
Bout to carry that straight into a HOF career! I have no doubt barring injuries! Going to miss my guy in a Buckeye Uniform but bro we ridin witchu! O-H!!!
Good job . enjoyed the content
This the video I been waiting for
I grew up loving Harrison Snr and how he carried himself. Loved Jerry Rice's career that I saw as well and even played against his oldest son. Such a trip seeing all these II's and III's but I'm all for it
With the #4 pick, the AZ Cardinals select, Marvin Harrison Jr
Welcome to the bird gang
Thank God for Marvin!!!!!!❤
Your scouting breakdowns are hands down the best on youtube...10/10 you winning!
Congratulations 👏
88, what have you done ?
You’ve created a monster
I miss the college scouting on this channel.
See what u did there😂
These are amazing! Need a Malik Nabers breakdown please.
If you told me this was devante adams 3/4 years in at GB (when he fixed drops and refined routes) I wouldn’t be able to tell much difference.
If "Grown in a lab" was a player, it's the Martian. He was quite literally born to do this.
He will be top 10 WR in the NFL by season end.
The next Larry Fitz, welcome to AZ!
This dude NEXT UP!
Great vid💯, can you make one for malik nabers?
Great video.
I’m calling it now he ain’t gonna do much in the NFC west
MHJr has crazy potential. Any team will be lucky to have this guy.
Nabers after rome? Great vid as always 🙏
Reminds me of a slightly smaller andre Johnson coming out of Miami. But a better technician, and Andre had amazing footwork.
This is your true generational talent. I would love to see him go to Chicago if it’s even possible with their upside and playoff potential.
I'm absolutely sold on MHJ after watching this video. My only question is about his release. In most of these clips, he's allowed to release without much contact. In the nfl, corners are better and able to play with more contact. Will increased physicality in the nfl disrupt his releases in a significant way? I think he's still talented enough that it won't matter but may be a learning curve for him
Monti and Johnathan are really cooking up something special here, thank god. I think we’ll finally see a turn around here.
your videos are great. jayden daniels next please!
Imagine Marvin Harrison jr plays with Archie manning just like how Peyton manning played with Marvin harrison
The superstar club!
This is some high praise. He should go no.2 if we’re being honest.
SAME,.I like Nabers' voracity, seperation, and YAC a bit more~
How do you look through all of a players tape like this? What software do you use?
VLC and OBS
Interesting video, as several analysts think Malik Nabors is the best WR available in this season's draft. You should do a video on him as well and compare the two of them.
Chase vs Jefferson pretty much
Would also be interested in your opinion on how these guys compare to the other players of their position with similar draft expectations. Obviously doesn‘t make much sense with Marvin Harrison because he is gonna be the first wr of the board anyway. But for example could be cool in case you‘re planning a breakdown of either Verse or Turner.
Unfortunately cant post SEC film, but definitely will be covering Verse shortly
That is super awesome now. That on draft day we've learned that the chargers are apparently going going to take the second best offensive tackle in the Draft at number five instead of a wide receiver
can't wait to see him and Kyler connect
Hes gonna be one of the best players to ever play
Will you release anything with your thoughts on Nabers and other SEC prospects even though you cant break their film down?
Mama immediately looked like a 99 overall the FIRST time I seen him. I was like he look like Marvin Harrison that kid gotta he fye😂😂😂😂
He’s Keenan Allen with the route running and Mike Williams with the body control and Larry Fitzgerald hands and Aj green speed
His route running gonna make Ocho cry with tears of joy lol.
dudes gonna be a monster in the league. I disagreed with your video about Maye being a top 3 pick, but MHJ is gonna make a huge difference at the next level.
An idea for an offseason video would be to analyze Nico Collin’s development into a WR1. He exploded onto the scene and established himself as a dominant YAC threat this season.
The Pats should just go for it and take Marv. JUST.LOOK.AT.HIM.
MURRAY TO HARRISON TIME!!!
Add him to the Commanders Wide Receiver core. That will make our Receivers Core the best in the NFL 👀
Good video
My man looks like the guy that got the screams sucked out of him in Monsters Inc
Also, is it possible to make a geroge pickens video after the draft process
Awesome video as always. Can’t wait to see Jeremiah Smith in a few years possibly be just as good if not better than this dude
I'm interested to see if his attitude will change in the NFL. His work ethic is great though
I believe that MHJ would’ve been top 10 WR last year in the NFL crazy take Ik but this dude is him
MHJ is one of the best receivers to come out of college short of Randy Moss in '98.
reminds me alot of julio
Sold my soul for him in my dynasty SF league , gonna be worth it and then some
😂😂😂😂
Gonna be a great charger
If he can get off of press consistently and limit his drops he will be hof. Route runner physical tough great vision smart etc. doesn’t have breakaway speed but is a perfect wr
Marvin Harrison Jr. is a generational talent that I think everyone who passes on him will regret in a couple of years. As a Washington fan, I was hoping that we would keep Sam Howell and draft him, but I don't make any decisions around here.
I’m with you we need MHJ with Michael Penix 🎉 a great Draft
Sad bears fan here
this man needs to be drafted by the giants!!!!
people be hating bc of his last name like he wouldn’t be elite without it. real generational talent
Future New York Giant ✨️
the receiver ALWAYS has the advantage on route running. So honestly, it's more disappointing that most players can't already do this....
8:42 bro stood there didn’t even know what was going on
I’m about to take a defensive holding on this dude just to prove to someone I can have an effect on his route
I agree with everything said here. However, there’s only one thing that concerns me, and it’s something I don’t see people bring up, his drops. He had a 6.9% drop rate last season. Not bad, but it is slightly below average. The average NFL drop rate in 2023 was 6.7%. That’s slightly concerning, but he’s also shown the ability to make any catch on the field, so it’s not too big of a problem. Other than that though, I’ve got nothing. He’s a fantastic prospect.
Drop statistics can be a murky one because everyone seems to measure them differently
Any drop I spotted from last year's tape was on horrible placement by McCord - he's very rarely, if ever dropping easy balls - nothing that should scare you away from stamping the elite status
@@ThinkingFootball Fair enough. Going from Stroud to McCord must’ve been rough.
He doesn't drop catchable balls bro...and for every drop he has 10 insane catches that 95% of WRs can't make. Watch the games, stop looking at paper.
Any chance we're getting that Daron Bland film review?
Definitely in the off-season - it's cut and mostly written - other stuff has just got in the way
@@ThinkingFootball Thanks so much, didn't know the videos have that much man hours put into it. Thought we might never get it lmao
Each video takes 30-50 hours to produce unfortunately
For an NFL team video I'll typically watch between 6-8 games, but QB evals I watch double that, and big scheme videos like the meta video contain clips from 30+ games
We also make sure to script our work so we don't waffle and bring you accurate and considered information - which takes a lot of time with rewrites
Then heavily edited graphical videos take about an hour per minute to produce - for example I started editing this 7pm last night, and finished at 7am
Appreciate the love and want for our content, it's coming I promise, all your likes and comments greatly help
@@ThinkingFootball I respect all the work you guys put in and have a newfound respect for your guys work, keep it it boys
There is a reason he has been comped to Calvin Johnson and Andre Johnson
He reminds me a lot of amari cooper which is interesting because cooper was compared to his dad.
He should have won the Heisman trophy but that's a quarterback award same as the most valuable quarterback award for the NFL. AKA most valuable player award
Patriots knowing he can run slants efficiently… theyre licking their chops right now
‼️WELCOME TO THE BIRD GANG‼️
His only flaw is that he doesn’t flop enough. Now that’s talent lol