Chernobyl Episode 4 REACTION!! 1x4 "The Happiness of All Mankind"
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- John and Steve's reaction and discussion for Episode 4 of Chernobyl - The Happiness of All Mankind - #chernobyl #episode4 #reaction
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One of the Soviet liquidators at Chernobyl would describe, years later, during a patrol how he and the guys with him came across a creature they'd never seen before. It had no fur and the skin hung off its bones, they thought it was an alien. And then it meowed.
This episode was definitely the most depressing one. There is no big enemy, no heroic rescue, no saving hundreds of millions of people who would die in a couple of weeks. Just necessity, doing the inevitable, making sacrifices day after day after day. Killing dogs, risking soldiers' lifes by the thousands, because there is just nothing else to be done.
I really like how they structured this show. Episode 1, the events of the night, the accident. Ep 2, the next couple of days - averting immediate total disaster. Ep 3, the coming weeks, the effect on the victims and stabilizing work. Ep 4, the next months - the clean-up.
Gritty and terrible.
Even when watching reviews of this show, I usually skip this episode, depressing through and through
Yep, episode 1,soviet kids on the street in 2 in morning,serious?)heal for people ,who know what radiation is with milk?) This shit is disaster)soviets didnt know how to heal radiation decease?in town,where nuclear station was? seriously?)
The way the animals were so excited to see the men & how they were trying run right up to them before being shot was so heartbreaking...
I swear man, the Geiger counter sound is the most scary soundtrack ever, no horror movie compares to this. This show is so deeply disturbing that once I've finished watching it I caught myself feeling afraid to touch everything because of how haunting the radiation contamination is... specially being something invisible.
I couldn't agree more!! - John
Soon after the explosion in Poland even the vegetables were radioactive. You would grow lettuce or tomatoes on your balcony and they would become covered with radioactive dust and were deadly. And of course Soviets did not say anything, the Poles had to figure it out on their own. The government started one of the most widespread public health campaigns in history (before COVID) and administered Lugol's iodine to almost every Pole (including me, a 2 year old at the time). Today we know it was unnecessary (Lugol's iodine is toxic) but because the Soviets did not say anything it was considered a good idea at the time.
The Geiger counter sound is scariest when you know you're literally hearing the radioactivity itself; each individual pop and click you hear coming out of the counter's loudspeaker - so close together on the rooftop that they blur together into a crackling hiss - is the sound of a single ray or particle of ionising radiation passing through the detector tube.
I love the "don't let them suffer" guy.
I had to do this once in Iraq at the Tuwaitha nuclear compound. It was more about disease control. I dropped mine with one shot. My buddy just wounded his target, started walking back. Immediately he was ordered by the ranking NCO to finish what he started. Don't let them suffer. This isn't a game. Finish it and bring it back to the burn pit. It's ugly business, you should not find it amusing, treat the animal with respect. If you were to be executed, you'd want it quick too. Treat the animal the same.
(Side note, last time I saw my family my mom joked about me maybe shooting the squirrel in her attic. I don't think she understood why I gave such an immediate and visceral "No".)
The issue is just like Boris said that braver men when the lights were bright stood down and follow what they were told or they would come after their friends and family as well. They never state anything about Legasov in the movie but he has a family and kids so they would come after them if he does not follow along. I would do the same thing in those circumstances.
As brutal as this episode is, I appreciated two moments of humor (which were very much needed amidst all the sorrow):
Boris on the phone yelling like crazy, smashing the shit out of the phone, and then calmly walking back outside and telling an aide, "We need a new phone."
and
The worker who was pointing out who does what and when asked about one group of people, he said, "I don't know them. Fuck them."
Heh.
Having a Geiger counter up on that roof, is a bit like have a water detector when you're deep sea diving...
Most people focus on how horrible it is to see all the pets being killed. UT now put yourself in the shoes of Pavel, the draftee given the job of killing them. The point of that plotline isn't to show us hat happened to the animals, but to show us what happened to Pavel, to see that you didn't have to work at the plant or live nearby to suffer horribly.
The mother says they never explained, at least so she could understand, about radiation. She thought everything was from some kind of normal burns.
I know this one was tough, but the last one makes up for it
I followed Chernobyl pretty closely and was surprised by what COULD have happened.
What the hell does this mean? You do realize that this ^ is what actually happened. Right?
I just want to say, if you think about Soviet culture...
Yeah, they had that entire "cover your ass and lie to say you made quota" thing going on everywhere all the time, which completely fucked their internal economy.
But they also had this "hero" thing in their culture (coming from their sheer body-count in WW2), where you're called on to save others, maybe now, maybe in the future, and you don't ask questions, you just stand up and do it, even if that means giving up your life. Which I just have to give a big salute to. The one thing I appreciate about this show is that it shows both sides of Soviet culture. Both the bad and the good. It was a nation of both cowards and heroes. This show recognizes both sides.
Fun fact, enough dogs survived and lived in the Cherynobl Exlusion Zone for the past 35 years that they've almost created a new breed. Mind you, their lifespans are pretty short, but they're out there.
This is pretty much the toughest episode to watch for almost everyone...but it is good that you made it through it.
Something that does not often get mentioned is that many of the men who went out onto those incredibly radioactive roof sections actually volunteered to go back out more than once in order to save others from having to be "biorobots". Also, that huge revelation that the Soviet State knew about the fatal flaw in the shutdown system and both covered it up and did nothing to fix it, all the while lying to even the plant operators about the safety of the RBMK reactors, is something that could only happen in a totalitarian state like the USSR.✌
It's not something that could only happen in a totalitarian state like the USSR.
@@Big_Bag_of_Pus It could only happen in a state where the government has control of all information sources...that can only happen in a totalitarian state.
@@iKvetch558 Nah. It just takes staying quiet about what you know. Look at Monsanto in Aniston, Alabama for an example.
@@Big_Bag_of_Pus Monsanto cannot force research papers to be removed from technical libraries, as the Soviet government did when their scientists discovered the major safety issues with it. And cannot force people at government labs or the labs of other companies to cover things up for them, the way the USSR did with the discoveries made about RBMK reactor problems in Leningrad years before Chernobyl. And Legasov did not choose to cover up his own knowledge of how unsafe the RBMKs were, he was ordered to cover it up by the Soviet State.
@@iKvetch558 Monsanto didn't need to force any papers to be removed from libraries; they only needed to not publicly release the research that they themselves had done that told them the dangers of what they were doing. In our country, rather than threatening people who don't toe the line, we financially reward people who do; and they do. All the time.
Your original post described knowing about a problem, covering it up, doing nothing to fix it, and lying about safety. That happens all over the world, successfully.
16:07 Yes ok I know what you were going to say, but enough with the blaming. She did touch her husband, but because they let her. People were misinformed, herself and the nurse who let her be there included. The government was covering everything up and making it seem less than it was. But besides that, nothing like this had happened before, people really didn’t know what it meant, even less the consequences it carried.
She is a wife comforting her husband in his last moments. She is a victim. She doesn’t deserve the hate.
The next, last, episode is not hard to watch and is very satisfying, so please look forward to that!
Between the loss of the baby, the rooftop work needed to be done by the men because of the government arrogance of hiding the numbers, and the puppies... I'd say this was probably the hardest one to watch of the series. (Though the poor firemen pretty much melting from the inside out was brutal too)
I was really looking forward to this, especially the roof scene.
So crazy!!
Reactor: *is having a meltdown*
Boris: Hold my phone
This episode is the physical embodiment of the term "Moral Injury". The physical injuries caused by the radiation are horrific in and of themselves, but less obvious are the atrocities the responders are called upon to commit for the sake of "The happiness of all mankind."
Love your reactions guys🫂keep it up
Thank you!!!
“Inside Chernobyl’s Mega Tomb” here on YT. Great doc about the containment dome over the reactor.
How ironic this episodes called the happiness of all mankind. When the episodes over its nothing but pure depression.
For real, so awful
It is a quote from a banner hanging from a building in Pripyat, like the school or city hall I think.
It was really there. In the scene where the soldiers sit at a table outside, one of them points at it, but it was cut away in this reaction.
This one is brutal💔
You should really watch the short documentary Chernobyl 3828, on RUclips, it's by one of the Liquidators, and really fits to this episode.
don't let the cat see this.. it will give her btsd :)))
Even more pointed with your cat on your lap…
"This is the worst thing I've ever watched"...I guess you have not watched Dahmer.
I'm always amazed that many reactors fixate on the deaths of the animals, more then the human tragedy unfolding before their eyes.....
3:39 nah man, these guys were conscripted, they did not volonteer for shit... just plain simple conscription...