CHERNOBYL Episode 4 "The Happiness of All Mankind" Reaction | FIRST TIME WATCH | HBO
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- Опубликовано: 21 янв 2024
- Your Favorite Dads, Rick and Chris react to Chernobyl Episode 4.... Oh boy this was a rough one. We had a feeling there would be one that stood out in all these amazing episodes, and this might just be it. So come hang out and watch with us for the first time as we get close to the end of this amazing Miniseries.
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I know watching animals getting shot is horrible but honestly I saw a documentary years ago about Chernobyl shortly after the incident and they showed animals that managed to get away from the hunters and they looked so bad and were suffering so much that a bullet would have been a huge mercy.
I like when he smashes the phone - the moment he officially fears the radiation more than he fears governmental punishment
When that guy laughed at the idea of getting help from the US 9:52, it was not because the Soviets did not think the US was smart enough...he laughed because the absolute LAST country the USSR would ever request help from would have been the US. It was one thing to get a robot from West Germany, but no way would the USSR ever want to get assistance from the US, even in a life or death situation with no other way out.
Also, as I understand the history, there was no robot in existence anywhere in the world...even the US...at that time that could handle the level of radiation on that most radioactive section of the roof. So no matter what, the Soviets were always going to have to use humans to go out and clear that area.
Also as I understand it, the 90 second time limit was calculated such that a man of average weight would receive just about 50% of his maximum allowable LIFETIME dosage of radiation in that amount of time.
The soldiers that were clearing up the graphite have been told. They either spend two minutes on the roof clearing up the graphite, or they will go for 2 years war in Afghanistan. They chose the roof...
Geez. That’s terrible. The whole this is honestly just so hard to watch. I’m sorry for anyone that went through that.
@@DrunkDadsWatch And still, there were some that went out multiple times, so others would not have to... but it is not wildly known in Russia still. Even the heroic sacrifices, it is still mostly unknown what happened. That's why soldiers dig trenches around Chernobyl last year, dug out the radioactive soil that was so hardly "turned under itself". Yes, with radiation sickness after few days. In one sentence - of battalion commander - is everything. "On this positions the Red Army dig trenches against nazis in 1944, so it is perfectly safe"...
“There was nothing sane about Chernobyl”
If they gave people the option to stay in the irradiated zone--it would create another challenge: do you deny those people health care when they develop illnesses? Not suggesting either, but that's something they'd have to deal with. Rock and a hard place.
As always, Episode 4 says, "Hold my beer."
I'm always frustrated when people play down the effects of Chernobyl. You often hear people saying "only x amount of people actually died" and maybe that's true, but since when was death the only punishment worth reporting? People forget that long term illness, losing family, losing your home. All of these things are traumatic.
They often forget, that sometimes dying immediately is a far better fate for some. You can't judge the scale of a disaster based simply on the death count.
Exactly.
Yeah, one of the big takeaways for me from this miniseries is that as depicted, a big common problem was that the Soviet government simply didn't have the instinct or habit of explaining things. They were deliberately secretive of course. But even when they weren't being secretive, it just didn't occur to people to explain the reasons for things. The nurses didn't bother to explain why the firefighter's wife shouldn't touch him. And like so many Soviet people at the time, she just had a baseline, low-level contempt for orders, so she thought this was just another stupid order. Same with the old woman milking the cow, I think.
An authoritarian government resembles a corporation (which is also an authoritarian environment) very much. Does a CEO explain things to the workers or lower level managers? No. They just keep people in the dark and barf propaganda of success. And then you find out you were working in Enron.
Not sure if this has already been pointed out, but one cool thing about the structure of the show is the time scale of each episode. The first episode takes place over the course of hours following the explosion, the second is measured in days, weeks for the third, and months for this fourth episode.
I didn’t catch that , nice. Thank you -Rick
It's sad about the cow, but the animal was poisoned by radiation, it would spread it wherever it went even after the woman died... It's a hard decision but not a redundant one, I don't think. The same goes for the poor dogs....
That's why they had to collect all the dead animals and bury them in concrete. If they just left them there, even the wild ones, they'd be eaten by other animals, birds, insects, which would travel out of the area and spread the radiation for miles and miles.
Congratulations on getting over this hump. This is probably the hardest episode to watch.
One part I really liked in this one is the roof top clean up scene. From when the soldiers go out, to when the bell is rung for them to return is actually 90 seconds in real time.
Thanks, yeah this was a rough one but man is it well done.
I was there in 2011, before the containment vessel was completed. Beautiful and eerie place. Driving quickly pass the red forest, you got an immediate uptick on the dosimeter you were carrying.
great reaction guys. i've watched this show many times and this episode never gets any easier. when you were joking about the baby/pregnancy i thought you were going to be making jokes through the animal scenes as well, and was getting ready to hit the thumbs down. thankfully you did not do that, and just let it hit the way it is supposed to. as much as i hate to watch this episode, it is my favourite one to watch people react to; it reminds me that with all our differences, there is at least one thing in this world that nearly everyone has the same reaction to.
Great reaction to this as always
Did this episode bother you, let us know down below.
The score is the processed sound of an RBMK reactor in Lithuania that was being decomissioned as a precondition for Lithuania joining the EU.
Hard to imagine that was Pavel's 1st day--figure his tour is 364 additional days. At the end you see him smoking and numb to what he does every single day. The guy who wrote this also did 'The Last of Us.' Very grim epi. Actually shows perspective of each of the individuals. Does make one wonder how many people actually died from being exposed--Russia has kept the lid of this to this day.
And drinking, too. Imagine, a week before he was just a kid, probably out of high school, thinking about a summer with his friends and his summer job, going to college in the fall. Then he's drafted and it's this. His life is never going to be what he thought it would be.
I wouldn't say "good for you lady". It's his job to get people out of their houses. He doesn't have time nor should he have to sit down and hold someone's hand and explain why they should go. They are on time constraints. That statement was full of "privilege" which they don't have.
Yeah... Chernobyl was an INSANE delve into what happened. I'll tune into all these, shit was REAL hard to watch, but for people who love history VERY informative :)
I love hating this episode. :) The doggies, the stupidity with the robot, the roof, the miscarriage... it's just such a wonderful artwork built of frustration, and pain, and desperation. Perfectly fitting.
Hope you don't mind me copy/pasting this one from another recent reaction to this episode,
Oh boy...episode 4...most folks find this is pretty much the toughest episode to watch...hope it is not too bad for you folks.
Something that does not often get mentioned is that many of the men who went out onto those incredibly radioactive roof sections actually volunteered to go back out more than once in order to save others from having to be "biorobots". Also, that huge revelation that the Soviet State knew about the fatal flaw in the shutdown system and both covered it up and did nothing to fix it, all the while lying to even the plant operators about the safety of the RBMK reactors, is something that could only happen in a totalitarian state like the USSR...where there is no free press or free scientific establishment for whistleblowers to talk to when they know about wrongdoing by the State.
Well guys I warned you this would be the most emotional episode. So sad. Just think if they were not successful in closing the reactor you and I would not be speaking right now. This is a FACT. Let it sink in for a moment. The next episode you find out what eaxactly happened. BE SURE you watch all of the ending credits. Some info will shock you.. OK guys have another drink
Good reaction . Episode 5 is just as good 👈