CHERNOBYL Episode 2 "Please Remain Calm" Reaction/Review
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- Опубликовано: 1 фев 2022
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It's the second episode of Chernobyl! Kyle couldn't join us, but the rest of us are continuing through the harrowing ordeals of the people dealing with this disaster. Thanks for watching!
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Bruykhanov and Fomin were not local party officials. They were the people in charge of the plant. Bruykhanov was the plant director, and Fomin was the chief physicist. The local party officials (the Pripyat party Executive Committee) were the group of people they invited into their bunker at 5am in the previous episode, who decided to seal off Pripyat and cut the phone lines.
They took the geiger counter with them into the basement because they were trying to avoid the most contaminated areas. In reality, they knew that the radiation would kill the batteries, so they didn't even take torches with them - they worked entirely in the dark, by feel. And of the three men who went into the basement, two are still living as of 2022; the third died of a heart attack in 2005, aged 64.
There were so many heroes during this horrible incident.
Yes.
While not doing anything specifically heroic, and proud that my father went there and took part in luquidation, suffering 19,8 Roentgen dose (with 20 was maximum allowed at time of his draft).
Little fact: There are still remains of that helicopter on the roof of the reactor building and there's even life footage of it crashing. It is not 100% clear what exactly happened but they say most likely the pilots were affected by the radiation, which led to them lose control over the helicopter and making the rotor blades get caught in the crane cables, which ended in the helicopter crashing down. Also the names of the three Divers were Alexei Ananenko (mechanical engineer), Valeri Bespalov (senior engineer) and Boris Baranov (shift supervisor). A friend of mine, who's russian was actually named after Alexei Ananenko. I think that shows how heroic these three men were.
They were awarded another Heroes of Ukraine medals (highest in the country) after the show aired (our president seems to liked it). 1 posthumously of course.
“You are dealing with something that has never occurred on this planet before” is so scary lol
For your comments on the nurse contaminating her hands, the hands and extremities can take a far larger dose of radiation than the rest of the body. While a whole body dose of 10 Gy (Grays) of radiation is very likely to be fatal (90%+ with medical treatment), people routinely receive doses upwards of 60 Gy to localized areas relatively safely during radiation therapy. Most tables for acute radiation syndrome (radiation sickness) are oriented around whole body dose for this reason.
A 400 ruble yearly pension was an embarrassingly small sum for the sacrifice the engineers were asked to make but for context that could cover the annual food costs of 3-5 people but little else. To give an idea of the Soviet ruble's purchasing power a loaf of bread in Kiev, Ukraine cost roughly 16 to 20 kopecks (100 kopecks made up a ruble) in 1976, yearly rent for a two bedroom apartment in Moscow cost 96 rubles in 1974, and the cheapest Eastern Bloc car, the Moskvitch 401 (designed in 1947), cost 8,000 rubles every year after the Kosygin economic reforms of 1965. It is also worth mentioning that oftentimes even if people had the money to buy something they'd still be unable to get it due to material shortages or "transportation issues" (i.e. the Russian mafia hijacking train shipments).
31:11 you can go visit Prypyat town on guided tours. Also some people to sneak in 30km Exclusion Zone on their own, however, its not legal. The only thing you cannot do is go to reactor buildings itself. However, they are people working even there, dismantling the reactor 4 (they plan to do it fully within the next 95 years, but dont have sufficient technology at the moment, nobody does) and their radiation consumption is monitored.
The end of this episode was just brilliant, I wasn't even mad that everything turned out to be fine in the next episode. I was just such a horrifying moment when everything went black, the dosimeter goes to basically a constant tone of static, and the heavy breathing by the men. Absolute nightmare moment..! o.O
This episode really builds the tension 2 to 3 Mega Tons. I know Kyle is your friend but not gonna miss him. He looked so disinterested during the 1st episode. Do miss Angus though. You guys might like this ruclips.net/video/qCp73zc1OLs/видео.html A US nuclear engineer reacts to this series.
Kyle was upset that the Soviet union was portrayed in a negative light😂 guarantee if this was a capitalist society and the villains were some CEOs of a corporation Kyle would be smiling ear to ear
@@resin807 What a moron lol
Not surprised your tankie friend bailed lol.
"...under the right circumstances, a car can EAT you..." 😂😂😂
I'm enjoying your reactions to this show very much! It's hard to grasp that it actually happened (even though a lot of the show is dramatized), but it makes it even more worth watching.
She is not a Nurse she is a Doctor!!!!!
We had a discussion about that during the third episode recording, because I’d saw a comment on the first ep. (possibly yours?) That mistake is on us and our assumptions built on media. In a piece of American fiction set in this time period, that character’s portrayal would be coded as nurse, and we read that into her without thinking.
So, an apology from me and definite acknowledgement of the huge efforts towards gender equality that the Soviets made.
@@Ginkomortus I did not expect such a fulsome reply.
I am Slav, 👍 would have been fine ;)
Also the husband says I was being unfair as women had visible and real gender equality with inheritance laws from the 1200s onwards, so the communists needed bodies to maintain the revolution and those with ovaries were just fine 😉
But it was nice you bothered to reply
@@Ginkomortus gender equality were a strange thing in SU. It were declared. But in reality, most of the key positions were held by men. And society was kinda patriarchal in its core, and ruled by men. Yet women were behind every men and exhibited a "soft power" over men. Women were respected, protected, so they even abused that to some sorts. You wouldnt dare cross a woman. To the point of "covert matriachy". Man is the head, and woman is the neck that turns it, as they say. And women indeed were crucial since WWII, as men were kinda busy out fighting nazis and dying. So women had to step up to "mens work" both industrial and government one. Women were always presented at all positions, EXCEPT for the leading roles, those were for men, despite there were never a rule that said all these things out loud.
Source: I am ukrainian.
@@PUARockstar I hope you're doing ok.
The helicopters dousing the fire with sand and boron was actually what we saw on news clips. We watched that Helo fall from the sky and knew those brave firefighters would all be dead.
The secretary she gives the iodine to works for her boss so I don't think this is a case of some stranger just handing her a bottle of pills which she ingests immediately.
The firefighters clothes are still in the hospital basement
Nobody started to pick them up and transfer them somewhere else
No sane people would do that of course. But ukrainian gov sealed the entrance to the basement like a year ago. Because lots of people went there and its dangerous. Videobloggers etc. Some stupid asshole even stole a helmet from there and a few pieces are missing!
Nice reaction. Apparently the flashlights used were the crank kind but of course they needed a dramatic effect.
I remember Very well when the news here in Sweden sounded the alarm about Chernobyl and how people shrugged.
Only when the goverment went out with emergency slaughter , a ban on picking mushrooms , berries and fruit etc.
A threat no one heard , saw felt or could relate to. We were told that almost the entire west coast of Sweden had been poisoned by something called bequerell. Every day the level of becqurell is measured by the authorities but people got tired of these and were more interested in facts about the accident in Ukraine .
Could the same thing happen in Sweden ? how long would all bans last ?
How dangerous it was to be cought out in nature. Which clothes were most suitable against an invisible danger etc.
From a former serviceman in russian armed forces:
"In 1986 I earned about 400 rubles a month.The eldest son already went to school and the youngest son was born. The rent was not more than 20 rubles for the 3-room apartment of a family of 4 people. Earnings were quite enough for food and rest on the sea. I already lived in the city of Khabarovsk in the Far East. A plane ticket from Khabarovsk to Moscow cost about 200 rubles. so that our family could get to Moscow by a regular flight for 800 rubles. At that time I bought myself a used car "Moskvich-412 IZH" for 3600 rubles."
So 400 rubles at that time was either two plane tickets or 1/9th of a used car.
A new car at that time was the Gaz-24 Volga car for 11,000 rubles, and the VAZ-21011 for 6,400 rubles.
It was literally one extra month pay for the plant workers.
16:03...it's not so much about moving up in the world, it's more about avoiding the attention of the KGB
if you think that the woman who takes off the firefighter suit in the movie is a sitter you are wrong because 75% of Soviet doctors are women so it's not a nurse
in this episode we learn the best force of human on this planet.... sacrifice.
I am so sorry that I can't watch your Chernobyl series yet... But I haven't seen the series myself yet... Still on my list to watch... But I hope that you are having fun!
It should be Tschernobyl in German, no? tsch = ch. Also, it's Chornobyl in ukrainian (a mugwort, means nothing in russian Chernobyl).
@@PUARockstar Yeah, guess I misspelled it ^^
1 ruble was 0.64$ back then. So 256$. A color TV was 650 rubles. A Lada car started at 4000 rubles.
28:00. They are not russian, but soviet people. Mostly ukrainians. 28:28 and again, it's not Russia, but Soviet Union (those are not interchangeable). Ukraine, to be precise, close to the capital Kyiv and Belarus borders.
I heard that the reason the three men survived was due to the type of protection and breathing apparatus they were wearing.
checking current exchange rates 400 Rubles would be $5.25 US dollars. What I don't remember is was that a month or year. Hard to say what the exchange rate would have been in the late 80s.
Back then, i think it would've been around 500 Dollars. Still a ridiculously low amount.
That's irrelevant.
No. You're looking about russian roubles. And those were soviet roubles. Different things. You can fully eat by 1 rouble a day in Soviet Union. Plant workers earned at least 200 a month in 86, probably somewhat more. And today russian people earn like 20k roubles and rouble costs MUCH less. Also remember, that Soviet Union isnt Russia.
@@michellehawk282 for a capitalist point of view - probably. But you should take into account free medicine, lots of free stuff, including free flats for people that held some state-needed occupations (workers of Chornobyl got theirs in Prypyat for free, Im sure). People were set for living. Yet, of course, you only had small amount of choice when in comes to products you consume, food etc. and shortages of it. It was different system.
I was 24 and working as an English Assistant in a school in the north of France when it happened - a friend told me there'd been a nuclear explosion in the Soviet Union and I said "But that can't happen, can it?..." then I rushed to buy a paper and I'm like "Shit, Shit. Shit shitty shit"
great reaction guys!
The guys of the basement were ucranians.
400 rubles at this time was equal to $563.00 Ouch!
Holy crap!
When you say this time do you mean 1986 or 2022?
@@remliqa 1986. Today it would be even less. Around 5 dollars only.
As I posted in a different reaction's comments, the conversion to dollars (whether inflation-adjusted or not) tells you nothing at all. The Soviet Union had a closed economy: conversion of rubles to other currencies did not float on the world market, and neither did the prices of things you need to live.
The question you want to ask isn't "how much is 400 rubles in dollars?". The question you want to ask is "how much is 400 rubles compared to their salary, or to what they needed to live?" The guess is that 400 rubles was about two months salary for an engineer in a Soviet atom city.
@@michellehawk282 soviet and russian roubles are two different things. You can fully eat by 1 rouble a day in Soviet Union. Plant workers earned at least 200 a month in 86, probably somewhat more. And today russian people earn like 20k roubles and rouble costs MUCH less, and 1 rouble is literally nothing, you cannon buy anything with it. Also remember, that Soviet Union isnt Russia.
Great debate on the era, guys, but trust OG here. If you spoke up against their system, you were disappeared. Look at the WW II battle of Stalingrad, for instance, every other man was assigned a rifle, and if you retreated, you were machine gunned down. Stalins purges of over 20 million people. The Soviets were the fartherest thing from a free society!!!
No One has ever asked about the U.S. forces stationed in Germany at that time, and how our Govt. is taking care of them and their families that were with them.
My mind still struggles to comprehend the magnitude of this disaster.
Absolutely awful.
Oh wow, credit to you guys for dumping the 4th guy on the left. He is every reactors (excuse the pun) nightmare, checking his phone, yawning, playing with the cat.
You mean he didn't enjoy the childish BS coming from the other three.
There's a podcast that goes with it that provides some interesting additional information.
Can't say too much without spoilers...but what happened at Chernobyl can really only happen in a society where the government has the power to enforce its own version of reality on its people. Only a society that has no free press, no limits on government power, and near absolute control over the information that the people are allowed to have access to can create this particular kind of situation. Whatever issues we have now are just the merest shadow, the barest hint of what the Soviet Union did to ensure that Chernobyl would happen the way it did. 🖖✌
I'm a physicist, and not as a hobby. So you won't offend *me*, anyway, by bemoaning the way in which so many people have rejected science for conspiracy theories.