CHERNOBYL Episode 4 "The Happiness of All Mankind" Reaction/Review
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- Опубликовано: 15 фев 2022
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This one is pretty gut-wrenching, even in the context of this series. Thanks for watching.
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The stuff being sprayed from the helicopters was a mildly sticky aerosol to help keep the irradiated leaves from blowing away and spreading
In the USSR, Comrade (Tovarysch) just replaced classist titles like Mr. Mrs. Sir. Madam, etc.
Sorry to say this but anytime a woman has a still birth, anywhere in the world, then she is usually kept in the maternity ward. Hospitals are not built with separate wings for this. The woman still needs to be monitored by the OB-GYN specialists. Attempts to move her to a private room can be made but only if the hospital can arrange it and many do not have the rooms, especially during our current times.
Old lady scene is a nod at the utter horror it was living in Ukraine under Lenin, Stalin and the Nazis.
And sadly, it wasn't over with Chernobyl, and it isn't over now.
It is very common for mothers who have lost child through still birth to be in the maternity ward around other mothers and babies. The mother still needs maternity specific care which is treated in the maternity ward.
having been thru this sad expierence i really hope she recieved therapy of sme kind but its different today adn in canada. i just really hope she had some support.
Shortly mentioned in this episode; a reactor just outside Leningrad was close to do the same thing in 1975. Radioactivity was leaked into surrounding area, no information was given to the public
Not just kept from the public...the problems with the RBMKs were kept from almost everybody in the actual nuclear power industry. Very few people were even allowed to know that there had been problems, even fewer had any idea about the nature of the issues...as we see in the show, any information regarding the faults has been removed from open archives and locked away in the controlled access sections. 🖖💯✌
Radioactive which is indeed leaky but because all reactors in the Soviet Union are surrounded by 3 km of forest and radiation does not leak into the air and into Finland and as long as no one comes close, only people who work in reactors are known for radiation, making it easier for the government of the Soviet Union to cover up the case.
Re: "comrade."
During the French Revolution people would call each other "Citizen." In a world of nobility and titles, "Citizen" was a revolutionary title. I kind of wish it continued. I've heard folks running government services referring to the people who use their services as "consumers." Not a big fan of that. In a positive light, "Citizen" is a leveller. We each have an equal say. We each have one vote. We're equal. "Consumer" is a different thing. Some have more, some have less. We are not equal consumers.
Comrade was supposed to be the same thing. To reinforce the idea that everyone was a fellow colleague.
But just as "citizen" had a xenophobic, darker side or could be twisted into "consumer", I'm sure "comrade" was corrupted too. Something was done by a few to make some comrades more than other comrades.
Social Hierarchies form in all societies so yes, most definitely. Their is never equality. Lenin and Stalin were not starving in the 20/30s.
This series is the best use of cello notes ever.
About the "bio robots" and their protective gear. They where given none of the goverment, they actually scavaged (spelling) the buildings around them and built their own protective gear.
The firefighters lady actually got people visiting her apartment and telling her how stupid and how she was responsable for killing her daughter after this show went live.
It is so sad that people lack the ability to put them self in someone elses shoes and understand that they knew nothing truly about radioactivity. Ater the chernobyl event doctors wanted to read up on radioactive damage to help treats patients, but apperently all of the books had been removed by the goverment (I assume KGB) as to "not spread alarmism".
She also stated that when her husband was put in the casket she didn't stand with his shoes, they where put next to him in the casket, as they would no longer fit his feets, I am guessing that is what her holding the shoes was to symbolize.
Also to clerify by working on the roof for 90 secounds the people had gotten their lifetime "allowed" dose off radioactivity.
The roofs where named by the guy that gets it explained to him (the milityary guy that suggest the exploding bullets to shoot the debree away, an idea they actually where investigeting if it could work), He named the three roofs after his kids, I can only assume they where nice and easy going kids :P.
Ty guys for great reactions so far, can't wait for the final episode.
About the Germen robot. They didn't realise that the robot wasn't working at first, they actually had to drop it to on the roof and having it break down two times before they realised that something was wrong and then got the information that, ohh yeah we gave them the wrong numbers, it isn't going to work. One thing is lying to your "allies" about the number, another as well is not telling the people that you have put in charge of claning it all up, and then NOT letting them know that it won't work, and so they put people's life at risk for no good reason what so ever.
You probably won't see this, but . . .if you think this series was worth your time, you should listen to the HBO podcast about the series. There are 5 podcast episodes, one for each episode of the series, plus an additional episode in which Jared Harris (the actor who played Legasov) is a guest. It's interesting, informative, and really good. And it's all on RUclips -- just search on 'chernobyl HBO podcast'.
We read all the comments! Rest assured if you leave a comment on one of our videos, we will see it. We’ll check out that podcast, thanks for the recommendation!
At 36:42, the perspective of the Soviet people was briefly discussed, and that is a very important thing to consider...really great that was brought up even briefly. One quick note I would make about that would be to mention that the Soviet people did not have free access to information, and for the most part all they knew about the US was the propaganda that the Soviet State disseminated. Since all they knew of us was what the government wanted them to know, you are probably totally correct that they viewed the US as a tremendously scary adversary and perhaps as evil incarnate.
i think this was the greatest way but most painful way to show that not even the soldiers were spared the horror of this. palvo wants t drink away this p[art of himself and soo potent.
Today a ruble is worth a penny. There's a good recent documentary about dogs in Chernobyl. They've found a bunch that were not radioactive and are taking them out for adoption.
13:00 Really? Videogames in 1986 Soviet Union? What was the kid supposed to play? Tetris?
Actually some dogs in the area did survive, and since then have been naturally starting to become a new breed. They're pretty adorable, but also have pretty short life spans:
ruclips.net/video/bmVGwOP_zi8/видео.html
think Midnight in Chernobyl talked about the first guy they sent out on the roof to test what would happen who did get strapped with meters. He was out a minute, threw a couple shovels of debris, and caught about 15 REM.
the monthly salary on this time(the normal salary)is between 150-250 rubles and thats money been enough for a normal life,soo 1000rbl cash, you can imagine
I have to say these have gotten better and better, guys! Can't wait for the last episode.
When you're finished react to the show, please also react to HBO's Chernobyl vs. Reality - Footage Comparison ruclips.net/video/P9GQtvUKtHA/видео.html the video shows you what a great job they did in actually keeping things as close to reality as possible.
13:14 - LOL, what kind of videogames you expect in 1986? Call of duty? It was the original Legend of Zelda. And for Soviet Union, the most advanced electronic game was for a long time Nu, pogodi handheld with buttons and LCD .
I think Comrade is just a Soviet thing, although if I'm not mistaken it has roots back to the French Revolution
38:12 Comrade, plz don't shoot the poor li'l doggie...
The thing is that the cleanup of fauna wasn't all that effective, so the area is basically ruled by wild dogs now... Well... ruled is a strong word, but you get what I mean.
It's a nature preserve now.
There are tons of animals, some that don't exist in nature anywhere else.
Don't forget wild bears and deers.
Ulyana Khomyuk is fully ukrainian name, not russian.
KGB stands for "committee of state security". It's Komitet Gosudarstvenoy bezopasnosti" in russian.
Thousand roubles is a lot. Top professionals at Chornobyl earned about 300 up to 400 if I'm not mistaken. The average salary was about 150 up to 200 in 1986.
ty for explaining the rubles money i wasnt able to usee a converter cause it said it would be like 7 bucks adn im like that seems wayyyy low
I watched this recently and thought it depressing as, well, heck. I'm currently rewatching season 6 of Homeland. Between the two and what is going on now in the world, well, heck, I need to look for a comedy. Thinking of Galaxy Quest or Guardians of the Galaxy or Spy.
heh, I watched Chernobyl for the first time last weekend. And yes, between what you see in this show and what's going on in Europe rn (especially since I live in Europe) it made for a couple of rough nights sleep-wise, and a lingering hangup on the disaster itself.
28:50...the empty crib was probably the one they had used for her baby
“A phenomenon noticeable throughout history regardless of place or period is the pursuit by governments of policies contrary to their own interests. Mankind, it seems, makes a poorer performance of government than of almost any other human activity. In this sphere, wisdom, which may be defined as the exercise of judgment acting on experience, common sense and available information, is less operative and more frustrated than it should be. Why do holders of high office so often act contrary to the way reason points and enlightened self-interest suggests? Why does intelligent mental process seem so often not to function?”
― Barbara W. Tuchman, The March of Folly:
Waltz with Bashir is about the Lebanon war of course, know your history lads. Enjoy the next episode.
Chernobyl was in Soviet Ukraine, and now it is in independent Ukraine. The inhabitants and heroes of the series are not all Russians, besides them there are Ukrainians, Belarusians, Georgians and many other peoples of the Soviet Union.
I am just going to go ahead and ask: does Nate have an instagram? Beacuse my god is he attractive.
yeah this is a tough one to get through. I've rewatched the series but skipped the dog scenes, once was enough. It's important to have those scenes though otherwise we're sort of objectively removed from the experience.
I agree, and also find it fascinating how certain scenes affect us all differently. For me personally, episode 3 is the most taxing, and I have to steel myself for the hospital scenes. And whereas this episode is very very sad and emotionally rough, I don't *dread* any of the scenes in it. On the contrary, and because of how well-made it is, I've concluded that this is probably my favourite episode of the five.
Babies dying of the radiation after being born is definitely a thing that would have happened to expecting mothers close enough to ground zero, the babies absorbing the radiation to save the mother part is pure BS though.
Bashier is in Syria
Last video coming soon?
Yes! Next couple days. Sorry about the delay
Children don't absorb radiation of mother, it doesn't work like that - the rays can't be bent, radioactive nuclei circulate through mother and child systems. It's just that a child is in active development so any extensive damage will kill it, whereas for an adult it just means cancer, anemia, etc. in long term.
The beginning of a song that one of the soldiers sings when the animals are buried is Black Raven (Черный Ворон). Basically everyone knows it's first stanza, and it's sung as a defiance of death. Whole lyrics are more bleak then that:
Black raven, black raven,
Why do you circle over me?
You won't have your prey,
Black raven, I'm not yours!
Why do you spread wide your talons
Over my head?
If you hope for a game,
Black raven, I'm not yours!
I'll bind my deadly wound
With a gifted handkerchief,
And then speak to you
Of one thing only.
Fly to my home,
Tell my mother,
Tell my darling,
That I fell for the Homeland.
Take the bloody handkerchief
To my lovely sweetheart.
Tell her that she's free,
That I've married another.
I took a bride who's quite and modest,
In an open field under a bush,
Wedding matcher was
My sharp sabre.
A tempered arrow wed us
Amidst fateful battle.
I see my death coming -
Black raven, I'm all yours!
26:55 Tragically she is wrong. The public is the State, that is why it's called the Public Sector. Private Sector = The Individuals in Society, outside the collective community. She is using anti capitalist Socialist rhetoric toward the state. Going public with information was once a phrase used to ruin private individuals. You can tell that the writer likely doesn't know any better.
"Comrade" is a cultural equivalent of Mr., Ms and Mrs, it started after 1917 Revolution, it was a sweeping change and in many prospects before Stalin there were many hopes and many advances, even though Communist (Bolshevik) Party was the only one. Among good thing were New Economic Policy was basically what China did since the 80s, abortions were allowed, women became equal to men and got the right to vote, homosexuality was allowed, all long before Europe and more conservative religious US did those.
Now Russia doesn't really have a good way to address a person. "Gospodin"/"gospoja" is literally "master"/"mistress" and feels like anachronism, they were used before 1917 and are now used in official settings because there's no real alternative, but people avoid them at all costs. There are also "citizen" which is also highly official and in a usual setting feels like an attempt to insult since it was used only by policemen. Most used words are "mujchina", "jenchina", "devushka", "unosha" ("man", "woman" and "young woman", "young man"), and those can't be used universally.
So since "comrade" left the language 30 years ago for good, there's a huge hole in it's place.
Thanks for the information. Have been studying Russian language and wondered about how to address people.
@@philipcampanaro8124 Yeah, thing is you don't. I have really difficult time saying "devushka" or "mujchina" when referring to a person while talking to them, so it's very rare, usually I just say "izvinite" loudly towards a person.
And when describing someone, you usually say appropriate thing if possible - like their profession, occupation or rank/job title. Have never used "gospodin" (who's lord and master? Me? It sounds ridiculous) or "citizen".
So basically you don't use anything unless you're in an embassy or are playing "What? Where? When?", lol
@@nathanliteroy9835 still in the learning phase and not speaking to others yet. I do appreciate all the information.