Yeti Cycles SB130 vs. SB150 - Is There Really a Difference?

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  • Опубликовано: 26 ноя 2024

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  • @WorldwideCyclery
    @WorldwideCyclery  6 лет назад +16

    Which bike would you choose? Let us know!

    • @tjnorth210
      @tjnorth210 6 лет назад +10

      The SB130 because that’s all the travel i need.

    • @JohnsonBannerman
      @JohnsonBannerman 6 лет назад +6

      I've had my 130 since release week and it is amazing.

    • @TrailBikeMike
      @TrailBikeMike 6 лет назад +5

      I will hopefully be ordering a SB130 soon!

    • @smattgoss
      @smattgoss 6 лет назад +2

      Sb 130

    • @jackadler5941
      @jackadler5941 6 лет назад +2

      SB130 better on the trails I ride. I’ll buy it if I win the 1BIL lottery tonight. Hey, I can’t see your screen.

  • @b-manz
    @b-manz 5 лет назад +5

    Rode both, and noticed the 130 felt better to climb because it is more lively from the faster steering. The 150 is an absolute monster on the downhills and for most trails simply not needed. The advice is right on.

  • @coolbeans7274
    @coolbeans7274 6 лет назад +5

    I rode both at Outerbike and the 150 pedals heavier but confidence everywhere. I stopped watching the trail and started looking for bigger extra credit while riding the 150. more bike than most trails need.

  • @asselinpower
    @asselinpower 6 лет назад +26

    Solid bikes! The 130 would be my pick. The Orange 150 is awesome . A video about the Offering/Following/wreckoning would be great

  • @gucass
    @gucass 6 лет назад +3

    I feel like you guys are starting to turn into the Hoonigan of the mountain bike world. I love it.

  • @newka5472
    @newka5472 5 лет назад +1

    Yeti Bikes look oh so gorgeous in that "signature" blue they come in. SB100 is enough for me but if I had my way I'd go all in with the SB150. With all the features and pricing mathematics into consideration, maybe it's the SB130🚲

  • @rblumkin
    @rblumkin 6 лет назад +2

    have last years Kona process 153 and after a 2 day demo of the sb130 ... purchased a sb130... Kona now up for sale... agree with your review and others... hard to explain but bike feels and rides better and unexpectedly nimble .... beast on climbs and handles all but the most enduro descents with ease ..

    • @WorldwideCyclery
      @WorldwideCyclery  6 лет назад +2

      Dang! That is awesome to hear that the bike was that much of an improvement for you that you picked one up! That bike is definitely solidifying itself as a shop favorite.

    • @VW_Westfalia
      @VW_Westfalia 5 лет назад +1

      It's been 9 months since you posted, are you still feeling the love for the 130 over time? Asking for a friend...

  • @verdonrocksphotography3510
    @verdonrocksphotography3510 6 лет назад +5

    Next Tuesday my orange rocket is arriving, cant wait.... nice video thank you!

  • @robsfooty
    @robsfooty 3 года назад

    Love when you guys add clips from tv shows to compliment jokes. Great sense of humour haha.

  • @ChefIan73
    @ChefIan73 5 лет назад +7

    Nice comparison video. Really lays out the differences well.
    Any plans for a sb140 vs sb165 video soon? Or a in-depth ride review of the sb165?

  • @WildOutdoorLiving
    @WildOutdoorLiving 5 лет назад +6

    Almost purely due to the rear shock placement; I think the 150 looks quite a bit better.

  • @Monkeyseemonkey79
    @Monkeyseemonkey79 6 лет назад +11

    I don't why Jeff, but I'm getting a heavy Dana Carvey vibe today. Party on.

  • @konerpearsin4488
    @konerpearsin4488 6 лет назад +3

    The sb130 is my dream bike, it seems like the perfect all rounder, just so good

  • @pfordgreen
    @pfordgreen 6 лет назад +2

    I think you were trying to say the SB130 provides more feedback from the trail. In addition less distance to compress suspension makes pumping through corners and rollers way more effective. However I am still on the fence without a proper back to back demo.

  • @mariorock76
    @mariorock76 5 лет назад +1

    Yeti have made the CLR and TLR versions of the sb130, with 137mm of travel and 160mm of fork with the fox 36 grip 2. It starts to be very interesting! The best of both worlds in my opinion!

    • @WorldwideCyclery
      @WorldwideCyclery  5 лет назад

      Totally true! The LR models are top shelf!

    • @LP-ll8td
      @LP-ll8td 5 лет назад +1

      @@WorldwideCyclery Finally! Someone mentions the TLR! Very interesting bike! The added travel makes it very close to the Ibis Ripmo in terms of suspension travel. Also great to get the GRIP2 up front along with the 200mm brake rotors. Are the Code brakes better than the Guide offered on the TOTL T3 model?
      On paper, it looks like an interesting "half step" towards the 150. Can any mechanic extend the DPX2 to 137mm or does that require Ibis/Fox?
      Lastly, do the changes brought to the TLR impact the climbing/pedalling platform in any way?

  • @sonnduro
    @sonnduro 6 лет назад +2

    I'm going to get the SB150 next year in the turquoise, Can't wait. I originally was looking at the new Scott Ransom and then the Santa Cruz High Tower LT but then the SB150 came out and i was like thats the one.

  • @joshstarnes1080
    @joshstarnes1080 4 года назад +4

    Ok, your opening joke is worth a subscribe! 🤣🤣

  • @wwaytobe
    @wwaytobe 6 лет назад +1

    On a 2016 lapierre Zesty 150mm F+R 27.5. Love the bike! That SB130 my be the next step for me!

  • @ThunderStruckMTB
    @ThunderStruckMTB 6 лет назад +5

    I didn't choose the hardtail plus lifestyle.... it chose me.

  • @derektaylor2845
    @derektaylor2845 4 года назад +4

    Need a sb140 vs sb130. Seems like 27.5 are making a comeback after the past 4 years of 29er rush.

    • @fabiojones4157
      @fabiojones4157 4 года назад

      I’ve demoed both and the only real differences I noticed were that I had slightly slower times going downhill on the 140 although I definitely had a bigger smile on my face. All it wants to do is get in the air and manual down the whole trail.
      Side note: I tested them is Truckee so a slight disadvantage to the 27s

  • @Hendricksb123
    @Hendricksb123 6 лет назад +5

    I think I’m going to have to check out both of these bikes at your Lancaster shop, but I’m leaning towards the sb150 for our east coast trails. I bet it would be awesome to ride Sals with!

  • @bwg2020
    @bwg2020 3 года назад

    great video.. i test rode the sb150 and was so blown away i got it without a test ride on the 130! :) im sure the 130 is plenty enough but i'm having too much fun on the 150 i haven't looked back.

  • @mountainbiker8904
    @mountainbiker8904 6 лет назад +8

    My Precious, why don’t you do a vid on why you sell the bike brands you do?

  • @175thStreet
    @175thStreet 6 лет назад +3

    F**king great video boys! Stoked to learn more about these machines.

  • @arnetimmerman837
    @arnetimmerman837 6 лет назад +3

    Love the channel! Could you please make a video review about the best mtb bike lights?

  • @bullseye0112
    @bullseye0112 5 лет назад +2

    I think the sb140 would be the perfect do it all bike. Updated 5.5 is perfection

    • @DnBQemist
      @DnBQemist 5 лет назад

      The 130 IS the 5.5

    • @bullseye0112
      @bullseye0112 5 лет назад

      @@DnBQemist it has replaced it but I think 140 rear is better than 130

  • @jasonhiggins214
    @jasonhiggins214 6 лет назад +2

    130 for sure ,best of everything in my opinion🤘🤘

  • @nickzarnetske9994
    @nickzarnetske9994 6 лет назад +15

    When I win Mega Millions I'm getting a 130!!!

  • @Antweak83
    @Antweak83 6 лет назад +3

    😂🤣🤣 Damn I could just imagine how funny it would be in your shop. Love the new lines on the yeti. Nice and strait.

  • @esiquiel
    @esiquiel 6 лет назад +4

    Just got the 150 and it’s a fast and fun

  • @derektaylor2845
    @derektaylor2845 4 года назад

    SB130 Lunch ride with fox X2 137mm rear and 160mm front Fox Grip2 seems to be the perfect all around bike.

  • @donnpassMTB
    @donnpassMTB 6 лет назад +3

    I both the new 2019 sb6c instead of SB150 hope this worth to have it :)

  • @ClintGibbs
    @ClintGibbs 5 лет назад +1

    Another great video Jeff. I like your content!

  • @tris11583
    @tris11583 6 лет назад +2

    Great videos guys. Pumping out some of the best reviews around. 130 for me... I think

    • @WorldwideCyclery
      @WorldwideCyclery  6 лет назад

      Thanks for watching! The SB130 is a Champion of a bike!

  • @angelocordero5661
    @angelocordero5661 5 лет назад +3

    Give me the black bike just cuz it's stealth. -UTAH Rider

  • @ben3989
    @ben3989 4 года назад +1

    I’d get a 130. The mid travel bikes are the bikes to get for a one bike quiver IMO.

  • @steveferreira2542
    @steveferreira2542 6 лет назад +1

    Another great vid packed full of useful info 👍

  • @TopseyKretts
    @TopseyKretts 6 лет назад +3

    ...i like both..

  • @sergeiyoel9142
    @sergeiyoel9142 6 лет назад +1

    I want the orange sb150 but with a fox kashima dropper post and with the new full xtr system

  • @John_D2
    @John_D2 6 лет назад +5

    hell to the yeah. what's that set up Nate Hills has ? 130 with a 160 lyrik , yep....that's the one !

  • @hardmtnbiker
    @hardmtnbiker 6 лет назад +1

    Decision paralysis, yep!
    Yeti hit the target, with Geo. Why not a 130 with a Fox34 130-140mm fork?

    • @WorldwideCyclery
      @WorldwideCyclery  6 лет назад

      You could definitely go that route for a lighter set up. :)

    • @hardmtnbiker
      @hardmtnbiker 6 лет назад

      Worldwide Cyclery would the geo be effected?

  • @Loganmulally
    @Loganmulally 6 лет назад +4

    When are they coming out with an SB 170? If the 150 pedals so well, why not add more suspension?

  • @Adam-ev8xb
    @Adam-ev8xb 5 лет назад

    great video, Jeff - thanks! Question: what is the max tire size for each bike?

  • @beardsleymcbearderton6492
    @beardsleymcbearderton6492 6 лет назад +5

    150 and a 100 perfect match

  • @frankstrobel4350
    @frankstrobel4350 6 лет назад +1

    love the fork paper towel holder.....classic

    • @WorldwideCyclery
      @WorldwideCyclery  6 лет назад

      Definitely the most expensive paper towel holder in the building. :)

  • @kianghiaei9390
    @kianghiaei9390 5 лет назад +1

    Can you do one of these for the new Hightower vs. megatower?

  • @tehllama42
    @tehllama42 6 лет назад +1

    Straight up, the SB130 is the best ONE bike somebody can own. If you can only have one bike, get that.
    Beyond that - I start thinking other options make more sense (SB100/SB150, Wreckoning/EPO, Rallon/HeiHei)

  • @ShotShapeFitness
    @ShotShapeFitness 5 лет назад +1

    Does the SB130 LR solve this debate? I am really struggling to decide. I don't need both, but I do a few amateur enduro races in the summer, but mostly trail riding. Sounds like the LR can do it all.

    • @WorldwideCyclery
      @WorldwideCyclery  5 лет назад

      For sure! The LR is a great spec, pretty much can handle anything you can throw at it while still being able to climb anything around.

  • @crt269
    @crt269 6 лет назад +2

    Has anyone ordered the GX SB130T build that has the Lyrik fork? Interested in how that performs compared to the GXC build?

    • @WorldwideCyclery
      @WorldwideCyclery  6 лет назад

      Yeti does not spec any bikes with a Lyrik and we have not had anyone run RockShox suspension on the new Yeti's yet. That is an awesome fork and I am sure would perform great on an SB130. :)

  • @thomasmikkelsen9111
    @thomasmikkelsen9111 6 лет назад

    I rode both at yeti factory on same trail loop. did not notice difference in climbing with the exception of the tight switch back but descending its not even close. 150 for this cat. 130 felt a bit harsh on square hits and more squirley at speed, also the lower BB on 130 produces way more pedal strikes

    • @ml.9746
      @ml.9746 6 лет назад

      Same thing my buddy said about the following over the wrecker, now he is on the offering and says it's way more stable in the high speed chunk, and much more responsive than the wreckoning

  • @hjjlee
    @hjjlee 6 лет назад

    Thanks for the great video - I have a quick question. I see that on the SB130 they went with a FIT4 (3 position lever w/LS adjustment on open) vs FIT GRIP2 (HSC, LSC, HSR, LSR) damper on the 36 Fox Float. The Fox website states that only FIT4 is available on the 150 but I believe Transition Smuggler is running a FIT GRIP2 on their 140 mm 36 Fox Float Performance so it can be done. Any thoughts on why they decided to go with the FIT4? Obviously for more trail riding oriented bike, having a lever to go from open to firm on long single fireroads or single track climbs is somewhat desirable. That being said, FIT GRIP design features a dynamic bleed system that Fox claims reduces performance-robbing pressure build-up, and improving consistency and reliability.
    Would you like to have seen a FIT GRIP 2 damper on the 150 travel fork?
    Do you think FOX will release a FIT GRIP damper with 3 position lever w/LS adjustment on open?
    Also, is that a Wolftooth 32T oval ring that I see on the black SB130 in the video?

    • @WorldwideCyclery
      @WorldwideCyclery  6 лет назад +1

      Hey, thanks for watching. I think because the SB130 is a trail oriented bike that Fit4 makes sense and I do not think many people who are looking for that category of bike are going to want to have the extra adjustability. I am not sure what Fox has in mind when it comes to the future of their damper line. I think they will continue to use two different damper designs to benefit different styles of customers and always have a simple option and a more complex option with more tuning capability.

  • @rickpearson276
    @rickpearson276 5 лет назад +1

    Both bikes appeal to me. Looking for advice. I have a plate in one leg from a bad break. Once in a while, I hit something hard enough that the leg hurts for a week or two. So, the question..... is the 150 going to protect me significantly more from harsher shocks? or should I get a 130 because it better matches what I would use it for? Thanks in advance.

    • @WorldwideCyclery
      @WorldwideCyclery  5 лет назад +1

      The SB150 would definitely allow you a little more room to wiggle and give some extra cushion but it may not be worth it depending on where you're riding! I'd say, try to demo both and that should really give you a better idea of what would be reasonable for you.

    • @rickpearson276
      @rickpearson276 5 лет назад

      @@WorldwideCyclery Thank you very much!

    • @g.donuts3551
      @g.donuts3551 5 лет назад +1

      I had similar body damage/hardware concerns when shopping for a new ride that I needed to be much more supple than previous bike. Didn’t need more than 130, but wanted extra supple so I could continue to ride. Went with a 130 2.8 x 27.5 bike and it’s been exactly what I needed.

  • @pasitkhounphachansy4383
    @pasitkhounphachansy4383 5 лет назад

    I pulled the trigger on the raw SB130 but is interested in toying with the LR set up. Do I need a new rear shock or just have the shaft extended on the Fox DPX2 to go to 137mm?

  • @jared_erickson
    @jared_erickson 6 лет назад +2

    Ummmmm I’ll take both please

  • @adamenglander
    @adamenglander 6 лет назад +1

    Great video even greater bikes

  • @zengzz7047
    @zengzz7047 6 лет назад +1

    When yeti downhill bike coming out??

  • @kylefeldhaus
    @kylefeldhaus 6 лет назад

    Do you think there will be a new 275 Enduro race bike? To replace the sb6

  • @JerryWanders
    @JerryWanders 4 года назад

    So if i put the same shocks on the sb130 it the same as 150?
    I’m stuck in between to which one to buy

  • @damiansmith391
    @damiansmith391 5 лет назад +1

    Why wouldn’t u choose sb150?
    Why wouldn’t u choose sb130?

  • @damiansmith391
    @damiansmith391 6 лет назад

    If you have sb5.5, is it worth it to upgrade to sb130? And also can u use fox 36 170mm travel on sb130? Cuz ive someone with orange for on the sb130 and i know fox 36 150-160mm dont comes with orange lowers

    • @WorldwideCyclery
      @WorldwideCyclery  6 лет назад

      It is really hard to make that call and say out right that you should upgrade but the new bikes really are something new and amazing. Good thing Yeti's have a high resale value and I know a lot of people would pay well for that 5.5 right now. Makes you think.... :)

  • @oscarbustamante9369
    @oscarbustamante9369 6 лет назад +2

    You must be a doctor or work at a bike shop to afford such machines in which case yetis, but go easy I'm not hating.. dream bike for sure

    • @dannyflorian6329
      @dannyflorian6329 6 лет назад

      tech > doctors

    • @ml.9746
      @ml.9746 6 лет назад

      Turds>tech

    • @mrweiler
      @mrweiler 6 лет назад +2

      Someone needs to explain this to me... A comparable spec bike from any other brand is between 200-500 less than yeti. I get Yeti is more but in this price range is 4500 vs 5200 for a GX bike that big of a deal? Just get the bike you want.

  • @snowmen6666
    @snowmen6666 6 лет назад +1

    Any words on the rear shock position? They are not the same...

    • @WorldwideCyclery
      @WorldwideCyclery  6 лет назад

      The obvious change is that now with this position Yeti can accommodate a water bottle but I think with their new linkage and having a more inline compression stroke the Switch Inifinty suspension design feels smoother than ever. It helps that the shock pivots on bearings as well. Definite improvement. :)

    • @snowmen6666
      @snowmen6666 6 лет назад

      @@WorldwideCyclery yes but still, the schock position between the 130 and 150 is not the same.

  • @donnovicki4918
    @donnovicki4918 6 лет назад +1

    Did you have to cut the seat tube on this one too?

  • @adamniswonger8015
    @adamniswonger8015 2 года назад

    130 LR, 140 or 150? Maybe the 150 with a mullet?

  • @vishaldayalpanta3222
    @vishaldayalpanta3222 6 лет назад +1

    Black 130 for me 😏

  • @TyBrenninger
    @TyBrenninger 6 лет назад +2

    I would do terrible things for an sb130 frame

    • @frostbitepokin9520
      @frostbitepokin9520 6 лет назад +1

      Ty rob a bank my man

    • @flow2tech
      @flow2tech 6 лет назад +2

      Yess! I just did.. Cashed in on some stock that was supposed to be for retirement... Dumb move... But u only live once!

  • @lambertsantiago1981
    @lambertsantiago1981 4 года назад +1

    I'm in the OC area in Cali. Where can I demo a Yeti?

    • @WorldwideCyclery
      @WorldwideCyclery  4 года назад

      You can make the mission up to our Newbury Park location! If not though, check out the dealer locator on their site, www.yeticycles.com/dealers It looks like there are definitely a few dealers in your area!

    • @victorrafa6540
      @victorrafa6540 4 года назад +1

      Bike company off of bake parkway.

  • @liamwoods5353
    @liamwoods5353 6 лет назад +1

    These bikes are rippers!

  • @alessiomtgUnpacked
    @alessiomtgUnpacked 6 лет назад +1

    Hi ... on sb 130 is it possible to mount an X2 float?

    • @WorldwideCyclery
      @WorldwideCyclery  6 лет назад

      Right now there is not a size that is available aftermarket to fit the SB130. That could be cool though!

  • @stevenm_3sixty
    @stevenm_3sixty 6 лет назад +1

    What max width tyres can the 130 or 150 29ers run?

    • @WorldwideCyclery
      @WorldwideCyclery  6 лет назад +2

      Straight from Yeti's website, "The short answer is the SB130 can accept up to a 2.5" tire. There
      is great tire clearance on the SB130 but tire sizes vary widely by
      manufacturers, so it is hard to give a number that works for all brands."

    • @stevenm_3sixty
      @stevenm_3sixty 6 лет назад

      Thanks.

  • @ckunstadt
    @ckunstadt 6 лет назад +1

    YAY!!!

  • @mikebussart2575
    @mikebussart2575 6 лет назад +1

    Which is better float or dpx ??

    • @WorldwideCyclery
      @WorldwideCyclery  6 лет назад

      Both these bikes come with the Float DPX2 and the SB150 can come with an X2. Both are great shocks but if you are a gravity oriented rider then an X2 may benefit you. :)

  • @shadyss96
    @shadyss96 5 лет назад +1

    What is that thing the bottom pivot point connects to?

    • @WorldwideCyclery
      @WorldwideCyclery  5 лет назад

      That's Yeti's Switch Infinity. It basically allows the rear end to pivot without creating saddle bob so you can get the best pedalling efficiency possible.

    • @shadyss96
      @shadyss96 5 лет назад

      @@WorldwideCyclery Thank you! That is a cool idea, id love to give one a spin.

  • @ARMTB
    @ARMTB 4 года назад +1

    SB 130 is KING 👑

  • @karenhendricks204
    @karenhendricks204 2 года назад

    I'm 6'5" will it be too small?

  • @ooo900m
    @ooo900m 6 лет назад +1

    Mi next 130. 💪💪💪😊😊😊

  • @on1ytheb3st
    @on1ytheb3st 6 лет назад +1

    Surprised the spec on the 150 includes XM1501 wheels. I’ve got XM481s off a yeti which are pretty much the same wheel minus the hub and I’ve always thought they were more for trail/all mountain, I couldn’t imagine how long they’d last for someone like Richie Rude lol

    • @CampFireJammer
      @CampFireJammer 6 лет назад

      I’ve got a 481 on my front wheel, it recently sliced through the sidewall of a double down dhf smashing into a square edge at 65 km/h and the rim has zero damage, next step up is the ex511 which is slowly replacing the ex471 as the most common rim in World Cup DH, that being said I have seen 511s on Ritchie’s bike, but for 98% of people buying a 150 the 481s are more than tough enough.

  • @tylerkohtz5779
    @tylerkohtz5779 6 лет назад

    ok but what are those things above the bb and at the bottom of the rear triangle

  • @z33tanner
    @z33tanner 6 лет назад +4

    Gonna sell my kidney for a 150

  • @rualert1602
    @rualert1602 6 лет назад

    Does Yeti make these in aluminum?

    • @dannyflorian6329
      @dannyflorian6329 6 лет назад

      no

    • @wobllle6526
      @wobllle6526 6 лет назад +1

      only carbon or TURQ, which is more expensive carbon

    • @Wrangzilla
      @Wrangzilla 5 лет назад

      What is TURQ exactly? I haven't seriously looked into buying one due to budget, but i thought TURQ was short for turquoise. lol

  • @manuelcasanueva5408
    @manuelcasanueva5408 6 лет назад +1

    Dear yeti:
    Since I’ve gotten into mtb (about 6 years ago) your bikes have always been appealing to me. Great geo, great builds ( sram x Fox 4 life 🤙😂) and last but definitely not least that turquoise color is just stunning (not calling it yeti blue hurts).
    So what’s the point of this long a$$ comment? Well there’s one complaint that has kept me from buying one: that switch infinity thingy just doesn’t convince me. I guess it does help to get that feel you want on your suspension platform but why the fu** isn’t it sealed or whatever?? Anyways just my opinion there, your bikes still look amazing!!
    And I’d take the 130 over the 150...

    • @liamwoods5353
      @liamwoods5353 6 лет назад +1

      Go check it out on their site, shows kinematics as well as service intervals. Much less maintenance than your rear shock!

    • @ml.9746
      @ml.9746 6 лет назад

      Just grease em and go

  • @tinoschneider6350
    @tinoschneider6350 6 лет назад +2

    As much as I want, I can't get warm with the bulky design.

  • @blakera2750
    @blakera2750 6 лет назад +1

    130 for days

  • @alexs5394
    @alexs5394 5 лет назад +1

    so seriously, why wouldn't they name these the 150 and 170? would that make too much sense?

  • @zackweaver1957
    @zackweaver1957 6 лет назад

    Why does anyone need a bike like this when Yeti already came out with the SB100?

  • @APOCLAG
    @APOCLAG 3 года назад

    when you say a number in inches, please put the same amount in centimetres written on the screen. Thank you

  • @badlarry172
    @badlarry172 6 лет назад +1

    he said shaft hu hu huuu huuu

  • @henryamir14
    @henryamir14 3 года назад

    Send me sb130 pls

  • @anthonylentini3487
    @anthonylentini3487 3 года назад

    Salesman

  • @alexlamy1271
    @alexlamy1271 6 лет назад

    That new yeti looks more a commencal bikes ..

    • @smattgoss
      @smattgoss 6 лет назад

      How??

    • @mikea.3547
      @mikea.3547 6 лет назад +1

      I see what you’re saying, they both have wheels, handlebars and the like.

  • @a.sonetwo4547
    @a.sonetwo4547 5 лет назад +1

    2017th SB's had damn ugly Swingarms....love 2020th Models. SB 130 would be my choice😎🤘

  • @TheMBunk
    @TheMBunk 5 лет назад

    20 is the difference