Thank you for making this video. This helped me chose my next bike. I was debating on those two bikes. I came to a conclusion that I am going to buy the 130.
Another great video. Question, ever think of putting a camera/GoPro facing you on the rear of a biker you're following? Just to give the viewers another angle/view while you're giving your commentary? By the way, I do like the post ride analysis. Great idea.
I like the new dialogue, especially with the intermittent riding shots. It's kinda cool to see the bike preform on the bigger jumps/drops and chunky sections.
Rode the 130 and 150 today fully expecting to walk away with the 130. Nope the 150 all the way such a fun bike I layed down my deposit. I knew it was going to be good coming down so I put it through the paces climbing everything I could find and it really impressed me way more then I thought and I still have a smile plastered on my face from the descending wow. I think your review was accurate and well organized great job from Vancouver Island!
hey buddy, I am about to pull the triger on the 150... Would I sacrifice a lot when riding not so steep trails and going up? I hit jumps and drops, steep rock beds....and I thats why I imagine the 150 its better for me (curently on a hightower lt 160 font 150mm rear) but I hesitate con the 130 all rounder claim. But, I don´t clock my climbs, I do clock my downs. I have no shuttles or any park rides, I pedal up for all my downs. I just read from someone saying the 150 rides "dull" in regular trails. I just wanna make the right choice. Thanks buddy
Yeah, camera angles never give you the real life view.... that last shot of Tyler coming into the funnel is super steep and loose... would be difficult to walk up...
40 mph!! No wonder you never like any of the bikes I like! :-) Seriously, the commentary after the ride was helpful and added useful information to the overall comparison (much more useful than "feels good" while on the ride). Overall, I think comparisons between bikes are the most useful content of a review. You try to do that where you can, and this head-to-head and after discussion was a great extension of that. The comment about choosing depending on the speed of your trails was very helpful and I think spot-on.
LOVING the new format! Nice to see the trails that you ride from a different angle. It is amazing how fast you guys are riding. The review and interview at the end is a great addition. MTB yumyum is the only channel that I routinely came back too. Keep up the awesome work!!!
Hey man, discussion at the end is, in my opinion, a welcome improvement. Riding discussion provides in-the-moment reactions and feels, but equally important is the afterward conversation where you get to reflect, collect your thoughts and better articulate the experience. Really good job, man! Very helpful.
Great comparison Jason, You both provided important feedback on both models but also highlighted the skill level that made you switch from one over the other. I like this new debate between tests
I completely agree on your take on speed and the "size " of the bike. I enjoy big chunk and technical drop at slower speed and small 5-6 foot rolling jumps (think Moab terrain). I went with the Sb130 and have been super happy. The sb150 was more bike than my riding style demands, I felt it was overkill in the amount of travel, if I was more aggressive in speed and rode more park and faster stuff than the sb150 would be a better choice..
if people complain about you always riding Jacob's Ladder that's too bad. Riding the same trail over and over with different bikes is the perfect leveler to compare and differentiate all the bikes and their performance capabilities. PS I love the view of Jacob's Ladder, can't get old with all this flow
I like the dialogue afterward and also the other camera angle shots on Tyler riding. 3rd person shots are always a bonus instead of the POV. Do you ever do a Jacob's lap on your own bike? Lol!
This is a fantastic video and helps answer exactly the question I've been pondering. I really like the analysis at the end of the video. Great addition to the format. Thanks!
Yeah, thanks. Not to bad for my first time really filming... I have no experience with lighting or framing but I really liked it and plan to do more in the future!
Adding the fixed camera shots and the dialogue was a nice change up. Great reviews and comparison as usual. If my wallet allowed it, I'd buy the sb150 based on your review.
Yeti have made the CLR and TLR versions of the sb130, with 137mm of travel and 160mm of fork with the fox 36 grip 2. It starts to be very interesting! The best of both worlds in my opinion!
i like the added ride experiences like Tyler added in there. It's a great way to get things in different views that could possibly help more of your viewers. Loved it like always!!
Sb130 here with push 11-6 and 160mm fork. The only time i feel like i dont have enough travel or not slack is enough is when i go to bike park doubleblack diamond trail. Other than that, sb130 is the “one” bike that does it all. Super playfull, responsive easy to maneuver and quick
New format has tons of potential for more increased production (slow mo, additional cameras, etc.)...gives a nice perspective on overall speed too, while having a conversation.
New ending format very useful and entertaining. Can you do a comparison of the sb 100 vs sb 130 or sb 100 vs new santa cruz blur. Keep up the great work.
If this helps at all: I rode the Blur TR as well as the SB130 on the same trails in Santa Cruz, CA. The Blur is really a full-on XC rig. It handles great. Is stiff as hell and feels unshakable for what it is. After riding the SB130 though, unless you are racing, I see no reason to get something like the Santa Cruz Blur TR. My times were almost identical on the flats and uphills between the bikes and the SB130 had meatier tires.. While the Blur could be hurled downhill at crazy speeds through the chunk, the SB130 was infinitely more capable and frankly just a lot more fun. The perfect trail bike. Super fast up down and all around with a huge margin for error vs the Blur. Unless I lived in the middle of a corn field, I'd get the SB130.
Really enjoy your channel. Your initial video on the 130 made me order it but this one sealed the deal as I need long days in the saddle but will also bring it to bike parks. You rock!
Yay to post ride de-brief! I really love the cross comparison of bikes in other categories. Something a lot of people forget is this, not everyone looking for a bike is set on a specific style/travel, they may be tossing between the two if similar enough in some respects. Exactly like Tyler, where a more experienced rider after more speed downhill over an all day or less experienced rider is something someone can take on board. Being a car guy, this bothers me in car comparisons also, always EXACT same category when someone (me haha) might be interested in a slightly different category with the same price point. Loved the stationary footage showing you guys pelt down sections, great perspective! As always, keep up the good work :) Maybe try time those Ads a little better :P
This was a great review. Really enjoyed it and these new yeti bikes are soooo gorgeous! Tires matter, always, most important piece. The X2 is a more tune-able shock. You can make an X2 feel like a dpx2 bot not the other way around.
after watching all your reviews it seems like if you like to push things 150, if you have tamer trails 100, If you want a middle bike go with a Ripmo. And finally if you are loaded go with a 150 and a 100 and put each of them on your 2 Tacoma's. And I do like the final format of you both talking. Now go get a Offering to test!
Always a fun time watching your videos. I am custom building a Santa Cruz Nomad because of you, your head to head videos really helped with my decision to build one. My trails are pretty mello here in New York but I will be taking it to the bike park in New Jersey sometimes so it will be very plush here and awsome there. Keep up the great videos.
Just bought the Ripmo. I rode the SB130 and the Ripmo back-to-back. The Ripmo climbed almost as good if not as good as the 130. But the Ripmo definitely descended better!
I bought the GX build but I upgraded the fork to the Factory 36 Grip2 and added the Ibis carbon bars. I also swapped the 175mm cranks for 170mm to help with pedal strikes. I would have liked to have added carbon wheels but just not in the budget. I kept the stock tires.
@@kevinknighten381 Similar to mine. Started with NX build (all that was available). Swapped out for X01 drive train with 170mm pedals. Ibis carbon bars as well. Santa Cruz Reserve wheels. Still thinking about a carbon stem. Also want to try smaller/ligher/better rolling tires because I do a lot of climbing.
To make things even more confusing... If you're more trail oriented, consider the Pivot Trail 429 and if you're more high speed trail/all mountain consider the Ibis Ripmo... haha good luck!
Jay, Great vid as usual! Enjoyed the after ride sit down discussion as well. You touched on the comparison between the 130 and 100 and would like to now hear more about this. Thanks again and please keep your vids comming!
Yeah, thanks! so, the 100 is surprisingly more capable than you would think... without riding it it's hard to understand how a 100mm bike with a stepcast fork could handle the speed and terrain it does... crazy good little bike that I honestly think a lot of people I see out on the trail with big bikes could be better served with the sb100
I think a lot of that composure over chunk that you're feeling is down to the rear shock. For an air shock the Float X2 is nice over chatter. Definitely more linear than the DPX2.
Really liked this style of video. Very informative on how, why, you would choose one over the other. Helped me make my choice! Salt Cycles here I come.
Great post ride discussion, I like the breakdowns of your thoughts on the bikes. Gives you some time to dive deeper into what you liked and didn’t like. The sb 150 came out right after I pulled the trigger on a Hightower LT
Great comparison! Thanks for doing this video. The SB150 is one of the top three bikes I'm considering buying in the next 6 months or so. Also looking at the Ibis Ripmo and Evil Offering. I enjoyed the discussion format at the end, and thought it worked well.
Man, this is such a insightful video. Great idea to invite a buddy to share his thoughts. You continue to crank out the best bike reviews out there. Thank you!
For me I feel which is better is entirely dependent on how many bikes you can afford/want to own. If you can afford two, then get the SB150 for bigger, faster, more technical stuff, and the SB115 for everything else. If you only want one bike, however, I think the SB130 would be a perfect only bike for most people; it can handle almost everything the 150 can, while handling climbs and switchbacks closer to the 115. Of course, if you regularly ride bike parks and/or very technical trails then you might be better off with the SB150.
Excellent video as always Jason. One thing i can't understand is why yeti hasn't grasped the fact that 2.5- 2.6 wide tyres are becoming the norm on 29er bikes. Both the 130 and 150 have maximum 2.3 width on the rear! My 2019 stuntjumper and my 2017 trek slash easily has clearance for 2.6 tyres on the rear, which btw gives a shit load more grip in a typical uk wet winter.
Yeah, interesting isn't it. Yeti is headquartered in Colorado with very similar terrain and weather as Utah. I mention this because I prefer the 2.3 tires over the 2.5-2.6 tires for my terrain. I find it to have similar grip, more protection and faster rolling. Still, that doesn't completely answer the question why they spec their bikes with 2.3 in the rear. I wasn't aware there wasn't clearance for a slightly wider tire though... interesting.
Everyone likes 2nd opinions even if your not doctors. Seriously though with another person it gave me more insight on which bike did better here and there and who they were for.
Yeah, if I had an extra $8000 laying around I'd also own the SB150 :-) For now I'll stick with my SB5.5... 37mph flying down JL??? Holy Guacamole! Great camera footage on the trail at the end... love that perspective! Thanks guys!
Here's the stava file to my fastest time down Jacobs showing the top speed of 37.4 mph and Tyler is 9 seconds faster than me on this segment. Strava file: www.strava.com/activities/1292798756#41497895109 The segment is called Full Jacobs w/ secret dh (2:22)
Good choice! If I had to only have one bike, it would be the higher travel Plow Bike. These days the plow bike climb so good, you do not lose much time going up, maybe lose 1 minute at most on a 40 minute climb, which if you are not racing, is no big deal. However, the higher travel plow bike more than makes up for the time in Fun and Safety.
awesome video. i bought a 5.5 about a year ago, now im planning the upgrade to the 150 prolly this time next year. also yeah post-ride interview is good.
@@Scott_Bishell from what i understand the 130. however i upgraded mine to the top end fox forks (170mm) and the dpx2 (150mm). been the best decision ive made.
Love your videos and the comparison here! I think I have the best of the both worlds with my 2018 Ellsworth Evolution with 140 travel in front and rear! Keep up the good work!
Good review. For this type of terrain i think the ripmo hits the sweetspot. The sb150 is a great smasher for sure where as you need to pick better lines on the sb130 but will be rewarded with more fun on slower and less demanding trails. The sb150 wouldn't be something i would take on an epic or if youre riding with some xc friends unless you're a beast. If you're riding very high speed trails and do a lot of lift service, the sb150 would be a no brainer. For another pov of the sb130 on trails that i like, check out outdoor gold's most recent review. Its a good sample of what the sb130 is capable of. Enjoy the post ride review with Tyler. I somehow feel he wanted the sb130 and was on the edge. He might have been happier with a sb130 lunch ride. He seems to like to pop off everything and the dpx2 is definitely more lively and poppy.
Out of all the reviews I've watched, this was by far the most helpful in terms of really laying out the differences btwn these two bikes and why someone would by one over the other. Would love to hear your thoughts on the sb150 vs sb165.
Dopest Bike review yet!! Haha love the comparison and honesty about riding style and what your looking to really get out of each bike! Maybe the Guy who really really wants the 130 over the 150 should consider shock upgrade to coil or X2 & the Grip2 Cartridge Swap~ Great Vid!
Yeah, the G2 fork would likely make all the difference on that 130 for dudes who really want to get more out of the 130 without going all the way to the sb150.
I enjoyed watching this nearly 3-yr old video and I'm glad you're leaving them up online. Watching this begs the question, have any bikes come on the market which can do both of what these two did so well, both climb and descend as well as both of these?
Nice video guys I thought the dialogue at the end was definitely value added. I think you should keep that format. Also, a tech question. Can you tell me what resolution and fps you're running your GoPro at? It looks good and I'm trying to get mine dialed in. Thank you!
Thanks for the comments on your preference for the 150 and the grip 2. Very helpful!!! What sram drivetrain would you buy if you were in the market for a 150?
Yeah, the G2 fork is well worth it even if you went for the sb130. GX drive trail is awesome stuff and I'd be happy with it if I had other financial priorities or if I were on a budget. I like lighter weight bikes so I always opt for the x01 or xx1. But the GX is good stuff too.... just a bit heavier and maybe the cassette will wear out quicker. Good luck!
Hi Jason, i really love watching your test rides...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 i wonder if you are planning to test ride the new SB165, to know which is more fun to ride between Megatower, SB150 and SB165? Sad thing is there is no available demo for this bike in UAE🇦🇪 ... Thank you
I think a looooot of this review ends up coming down to the fact that the SB150 is using Grip2 and Float x2 and the 130 is running dpx2 and Fit4. Would be curious to see what they both felt like with the same suspension, because the 150 setup will make any bike feel like a godlike charger DH.
@MTB good video. The format is cool with the two of you (or two people in general). Doing a pros and cons for each of you would add perspective, but it’s also a good change cool as it stands. As for bikes, I’m looking for single bike that is a great climber, with a handling second. The Ibis Ripley, Hightower, and now the SB100 are on my list. Is it worth considering the SB130 or Ripmo?
I have a 4.5c and would like to add a bigger bike, but dont think I will need a 150. Do you think a 130 would be a good compliment to my 4.5. Love your videos...keep it up!
Jason, any plan to test the new Trek Remedy? Not sure I remember you ever testing a Trek (perhaps I missed it), but I've read some pretty stellar things about that bike.
Best review yet! I live in St. G and own a 5.5 right now which I love. I am curious how tht 150 climbs compared to the 5.5. I feel the 5.5 I can take out all day, and wondering if I would lose that in the 150. What are your thoughts? Thanks
Tyler has two bikes, the sb150 and an Intense Sniper Trail. I mention this because if he could only have one bike he'd pick the sb150 again... not sure I would go that direction but he likes to smash stuff. It's been a bit from the time I last rode the sb5.5 so I hesitate to comment on the all day ability between the two bikes.... I loved the sb150 though! Good luck!
The SB150 climbed way better than I expected. Looking forward to a SB130 demo. IDK if I had an off day when I demoed the switchblade but I felt like I was climbing better on the SB150 and definitely was superior downhill. You said the Pivot climbs better, but is it night and day better or they pretty similar? Im sure I just had an off day.
Please be sure to watch to the end and let me know if you found this new dialogue format to be useful?!
Thank you for making this video. This helped me chose my next bike. I was debating on those two bikes. I came to a conclusion that I am going to buy the 130.
Another great video. Question, ever think of putting a camera/GoPro facing you on the rear of a biker you're following? Just to give the viewers another angle/view while you're giving your commentary? By the way, I do like the post ride analysis. Great idea.
I like the new dialogue, especially with the intermittent riding shots. It's kinda cool to see the bike preform on the bigger jumps/drops and chunky sections.
Enjoyed the post ride analysis. Also the stationary camera shots on Jacobs, you guys are really pinning it!
Great vid mate..... how would you compare the sb100 to the sb130?
I liked the discussion afterwards, more detailed.
thank you!
Looks like some awesome dirt. Nice comparison. :)
Absolutely.. great to have Tyler in the conversation.. (we’re always watching him gracefully shred in front of you) you guys are a fantastic team.
Yeah, I'd like to bring him into the conversation more.... Planning on doing more episodes like this! And Yes, he can totally shred!
Rode the 130 and 150 today fully expecting to walk away with the 130. Nope the 150 all the way such a fun bike I layed down my deposit. I knew it was going to be good coming down so I put it through the paces climbing everything I could find and it really impressed me way more then I thought and I still have a smile plastered on my face from the descending wow. I think your review was accurate and well organized great job from Vancouver Island!
Nice, congrats! I'd love to get some more time on the sb150... such a sick bike!
what kind of trails do you ride ? so you both sb150 for all mounting ? trail/enduro ?
hey buddy, I am about to pull the triger on the 150... Would I sacrifice a lot when riding not so steep trails and going up? I hit jumps and drops, steep rock beds....and I thats why I imagine the 150 its better for me (curently on a hightower lt 160 font 150mm rear) but I hesitate con the 130 all rounder claim. But, I don´t clock my climbs, I do clock my downs. I have no shuttles or any park rides, I pedal up for all my downs. I just read from someone saying the 150 rides "dull" in regular trails. I just wanna make the right choice. Thanks buddy
Wow, you can really see how steep and gnarly the trail is from the stationary shots. You buddy Tyler was killing it on that 150!
Yeah, camera angles never give you the real life view.... that last shot of Tyler coming into the funnel is super steep and loose... would be difficult to walk up...
40 mph!! No wonder you never like any of the bikes I like! :-) Seriously, the commentary after the ride was helpful and added useful information to the overall comparison (much more useful than "feels good" while on the ride). Overall, I think comparisons between bikes are the most useful content of a review. You try to do that where you can, and this head-to-head and after discussion was a great extension of that.
The comment about choosing depending on the speed of your trails was very helpful and I think spot-on.
Phil, thank you for the feedback. Always looking to deliver a better review and all the input and feedback is helpful. Thanks!
I’m still leaning towards the 150 😍
LOVING the new format! Nice to see the trails that you ride from a different angle. It is amazing how fast you guys are riding. The review and interview at the end is a great addition. MTB yumyum is the only channel that I routinely came back too. Keep up the awesome work!!!
Dean, thank you. Glad you like it... hope to keep it going. Thanks for the support!
Hey man, discussion at the end is, in my opinion, a welcome improvement. Riding discussion provides in-the-moment reactions and feels, but equally important is the afterward conversation where you get to reflect, collect your thoughts and better articulate the experience. Really good job, man! Very helpful.
Thanks for the feedback!
Yes to dialogue at the end. Request for a 4.5 and 130 comparison!!!
+1 For liking the post ride dialogue especially with the 3rd person shots as it does a great job of showing what's going on.
Great comparison Jason, You both provided important feedback on both models but also highlighted the skill level that made you switch from one over the other. I like this new debate between tests
Yes, thank you! Will iron out the fine details for future videos!
I like the discussion between experienced riders at the end.
I completely agree on your take on speed and the "size " of the bike. I enjoy big chunk and technical drop at slower speed and small 5-6 foot rolling jumps (think Moab terrain). I went with the Sb130 and have been super happy. The sb150 was more bike than my riding style demands, I felt it was overkill in the amount of travel, if I was more aggressive in speed and rode more park and faster stuff than the sb150 would be a better choice..
Nice, well said and glad you found the right bike for you! the sb130 is so rad!
if people complain about you always riding Jacob's Ladder that's too bad. Riding the same trail over and over with different bikes is the perfect leveler to compare and differentiate all the bikes and their performance capabilities. PS I love the view of Jacob's Ladder, can't get old with all this flow
Thank you for sharing... it's for sure one of my main concerns with the channel.... worry it would get old and boring. Thank you!
I like the dialogue afterward and also the other camera angle shots on Tyler riding. 3rd person shots are always a bonus instead of the POV. Do you ever do a Jacob's lap on your own bike? Lol!
haha it's not very often I get to ride my own bikes... lol
Good problem to have 😁
This is a fantastic video and helps answer exactly the question I've been pondering.
I really like the analysis at the end of the video. Great addition to the format. Thanks!
One of your best reviews, with great footage. This channel just gets better and better
Thanks Chris!
Discussion afterwards was good. It's good to get either confirmation or differing of opinions and thoughts. Should keep the format.
thx for the feedback!
Nice format with the B roll
Yeah, thanks. Not to bad for my first time really filming... I have no experience with lighting or framing but I really liked it and plan to do more in the future!
I like the dialogue, it gives more insight and another perspective to the videos. Well done!
Adding the fixed camera shots and the dialogue was a nice change up. Great reviews and comparison as usual. If my wallet allowed it, I'd buy the sb150 based on your review.
Thanks, yeah, glad you liked it... I'd like to include this format into future videos.... yeah, the 150 is unreal!
Yeti have made the CLR and TLR versions of the sb130, with 137mm of travel and 160mm of fork with the fox 36 grip 2. It starts to be very interesting! The best of both worlds in my opinion!
i like the added ride experiences like Tyler added in there. It's a great way to get things in different views that could possibly help more of your viewers. Loved it like always!!
Thanks dude. Hope it helps some dude's make their decision a little easier!
Sb130 here with push 11-6 and 160mm fork. The only time i feel like i dont have enough travel or not slack is enough is when i go to bike park doubleblack diamond trail. Other than that, sb130 is the “one” bike that does it all. Super playfull, responsive easy to maneuver and quick
Nice change to the content. Like the format.
Yeah, thank you. I liked it too... planning on using this sort of format moving forward when possible!
@@mtbyumyum awesome format dude... Well done... Loving my 130 for what I do mostly.. Both these bikes are the baddest right now in my eyes! 🍻 🤘
New format has tons of potential for more increased production (slow mo, additional cameras, etc.)...gives a nice perspective on overall speed too, while having a conversation.
Thanks Ryan. Yeah, this is the plan moving forward into next spring!
I really enjoyed the post-ride dialogue. Love talking shop. Great channel.
Thanks dude! Plan on using this format in future video's!
New ending format very useful and entertaining. Can you do a comparison of the sb 100 vs sb 130 or sb 100 vs new santa cruz blur. Keep up the great work.
If this helps at all: I rode the Blur TR as well as the SB130 on the same trails in Santa Cruz, CA. The Blur is really a full-on XC rig. It handles great. Is stiff as hell and feels unshakable for what it is. After riding the SB130 though, unless you are racing, I see no reason to get something like the Santa Cruz Blur TR. My times were almost identical on the flats and uphills between the bikes and the SB130 had meatier tires.. While the Blur could be hurled downhill at crazy speeds through the chunk, the SB130 was infinitely more capable and frankly just a lot more fun. The perfect trail bike. Super fast up down and all around with a huge margin for error vs the Blur. Unless I lived in the middle of a corn field, I'd get the SB130.
I like the discussion, I think it allows for a better understanding of the pro's and con's of a bike.
Really enjoy your channel. Your initial video on the 130 made me order it but this one sealed the deal as I need long days in the saddle but will also bring it to bike parks.
You rock!
yep, the 130 should deliver the goods! Congrats!
Yay to post ride de-brief!
I really love the cross comparison of bikes in other categories. Something a lot of people forget is this, not everyone looking for a bike is set on a specific style/travel, they may be tossing between the two if similar enough in some respects. Exactly like Tyler, where a more experienced rider after more speed downhill over an all day or less experienced rider is something someone can take on board.
Being a car guy, this bothers me in car comparisons also, always EXACT same category when someone (me haha) might be interested in a slightly different category with the same price point.
Loved the stationary footage showing you guys pelt down sections, great perspective!
As always, keep up the good work :)
Maybe try time those Ads a little better :P
Joe, thanks for the feedback. I really appreciate it! I too am a bit of a car guy... been in the car business for the last decade ;)
Yes! I agree!
A very good comprising. Detailed and they really can compare because they switched so much. More of this content! I’m glad I found this.
Liked the added detail as well. Someone else's perspective was nice as well.
This was a great review. Really enjoyed it and these new yeti bikes are soooo gorgeous! Tires matter, always, most important piece. The X2 is a more tune-able shock. You can make an X2 feel like a dpx2 bot not the other way around.
after watching all your reviews it seems like if you like to push things 150, if you have tamer trails 100, If you want a middle bike go with a Ripmo. And finally if you are loaded go with a 150 and a 100 and put each of them on your 2 Tacoma's. And I do like the final format of you both talking. Now go get a Offering to test!
I own a Ripmo and I've ridden my friends 150 the Ripmo is every bit as capable as the 150.
haha yeah, I guess you about sum'd it up there lol Yeah, I need to track down an Offering for sure!
Always a fun time watching your videos. I am custom building a Santa Cruz Nomad because of you, your head to head videos really helped with my decision to build one. My trails are pretty mello here in New York but I will be taking it to the bike park in New Jersey sometimes so it will be very plush here and awsome there. Keep up the great videos.
Rad, sounds like a fun build. Enjoy your new Nomad dude!
Just bought the Ripmo. I rode the SB130 and the Ripmo back-to-back. The Ripmo climbed almost as good if not as good as the 130. But the Ripmo definitely descended better!
As a Ripmo owner, that's good to hear. Do anything special with your build/tires?
I bought the GX build but I upgraded the fork to the Factory 36 Grip2 and added the Ibis carbon bars. I also swapped the 175mm cranks for 170mm to help with pedal strikes. I would have liked to have added carbon wheels but just not in the budget. I kept the stock tires.
@@kevinknighten381 Similar to mine. Started with NX build (all that was available). Swapped out for X01 drive train with 170mm pedals. Ibis carbon bars as well. Santa Cruz Reserve wheels. Still thinking about a carbon stem. Also want to try smaller/ligher/better rolling tires because I do a lot of climbing.
Like the post ride discussions with your friends. Keep it up.
Awesome video! I also really enjoyed the conversation at the end. I’m torn between the 130 & 150 as well
To make things even more confusing... If you're more trail oriented, consider the Pivot Trail 429 and if you're more high speed trail/all mountain consider the Ibis Ripmo... haha good luck!
Jay, Great vid as usual! Enjoyed the after ride sit down discussion as well. You touched on the comparison between the 130 and 100 and would like to now hear more about this. Thanks again and please keep your vids comming!
Yeah, thanks! so, the 100 is surprisingly more capable than you would think... without riding it it's hard to understand how a 100mm bike with a stepcast fork could handle the speed and terrain it does... crazy good little bike that I honestly think a lot of people I see out on the trail with big bikes could be better served with the sb100
I think a lot of that composure over chunk that you're feeling is down to the rear shock. For an air shock the Float X2 is nice over chatter. Definitely more linear than the DPX2.
yeah, for sure... would be fun to try the sb130 with an x2 and see in what way that bikes feels any different...
Really liked this style of video. Very informative on how, why, you would choose one over the other. Helped me make my choice! Salt Cycles here I come.
Nice! Yeah, Chris at Salt Cycles will take excellent care of you. Enjoy!
Dialogue is great. Well done Tyler. Thought you chose the right bike. Enjoy!!
Great post ride discussion, I like the breakdowns of your thoughts on the bikes. Gives you some time to dive deeper into what you liked and didn’t like. The sb 150 came out right after I pulled the trigger on a Hightower LT
Thank you! Yeah, the LT is a rad bike... more playful than the sb150. Congrats!
Great comparison! Thanks for doing this video. The SB150 is one of the top three bikes I'm considering buying in the next 6 months or so. Also looking at the Ibis Ripmo and Evil Offering. I enjoyed the discussion format at the end, and thought it worked well.
Rad, thanks for the feedback.
Man, this is such a insightful video. Great idea to invite a buddy to share his thoughts. You continue to crank out the best bike reviews out there. Thank you!
Wow, thanks dude... really appreciate it!
Really liked the different views of Jacobs ladder !
Yeah, that was fun to film and include in the edit!
Great back to back review. The wrap up at the end was great.
Thank you, appreciate the feedback!
For me I feel which is better is entirely dependent on how many bikes you can afford/want to own. If you can afford two, then get the SB150 for bigger, faster, more technical stuff, and the SB115 for everything else.
If you only want one bike, however, I think the SB130 would be a perfect only bike for most people; it can handle almost everything the 150 can, while handling climbs and switchbacks closer to the 115. Of course, if you regularly ride bike parks and/or very technical trails then you might be better off with the SB150.
thanks for the feedback, also your videos are awesome!
Excellent video as always Jason. One thing i can't understand is why yeti hasn't grasped the fact that 2.5- 2.6 wide tyres are becoming the norm on 29er bikes. Both the 130 and 150 have maximum 2.3 width on the rear! My 2019 stuntjumper and my 2017 trek slash easily has clearance for 2.6 tyres on the rear, which btw gives a shit load more grip in a typical uk wet winter.
Yeah, interesting isn't it. Yeti is headquartered in Colorado with very similar terrain and weather as Utah. I mention this because I prefer the 2.3 tires over the 2.5-2.6 tires for my terrain. I find it to have similar grip, more protection and faster rolling. Still, that doesn't completely answer the question why they spec their bikes with 2.3 in the rear. I wasn't aware there wasn't clearance for a slightly wider tire though... interesting.
Great review. That trail looks absolutely amazing.
I've done 18rds, all of moab, hurricane.....never anything by slc. Time for a road trip!
Bringing something new to the table. I like it!!
Everyone likes 2nd opinions even if your not doctors. Seriously though with another person it gave me more insight on which bike did better here and there and who they were for.
Yes, thank you. Tyler is a very good rider and getting his input and experience is incredibly useful to the viewer in my opinion. Glad you liked it!
Thanks guys for the bike comparison between the 130/150. Great filming. 150 it is!
Rad, you're going to love it!
good format, keep the footage going while you talk back and forth also, nice to watch bikes rip while getting info!
You’re the best.... absolutely value your opinion and analogies
Man, thank you! Glad you enjoy the channel.
Yeah, if I had an extra $8000 laying around I'd also own the SB150 :-) For now I'll stick with my SB5.5... 37mph flying down JL??? Holy Guacamole! Great camera footage on the trail at the end... love that perspective! Thanks guys!
Here's the stava file to my fastest time down Jacobs showing the top speed of 37.4 mph and Tyler is 9 seconds faster than me on this segment. Strava file: www.strava.com/activities/1292798756#41497895109 The segment is called Full Jacobs w/ secret dh (2:22)
Love the post ride dialogue... demoed both bikes just bought the 150 doing a custom build
Sick, stoked for you man!
This was another sweet video, I do think more of these types of comparisons would be great, it's nice to have 2 different points of view. 👌👍
Nice, thanks dude!
would love to see a Fezzari test or two! Nice video!
I like the post ride talk! Keep it up. Good video
Love the post ride analysis, please do more of this! Great stuff.
Will do, thanks!
Good choice! If I had to only have one bike, it would be the higher travel Plow Bike. These days the plow bike climb so good, you do not lose much time going up, maybe lose 1 minute at most on a 40 minute climb, which if you are not racing, is no big deal. However, the higher travel plow bike more than makes up for the time in Fun and Safety.
awesome video. i bought a 5.5 about a year ago, now im planning the upgrade to the 150 prolly this time next year.
also yeah post-ride interview is good.
Thx for the feedback! You'll love the 150...
Is the old 5.5 closer to the new 150 or 130?
@@Scott_Bishell from what i understand the 130. however i upgraded mine to the top end fox forks (170mm) and the dpx2 (150mm). been the best decision ive made.
Love your videos and the comparison here! I think I have the best of the both worlds with my 2018 Ellsworth Evolution with 140 travel in front and rear! Keep up the good work!
Good review. For this type of terrain i think the ripmo hits the sweetspot. The sb150 is a great smasher for sure where as you need to pick better lines on the sb130 but will be rewarded with more fun on slower and less demanding trails. The sb150 wouldn't be something i would take on an epic or if youre riding with some xc friends unless you're a beast. If you're riding very high speed trails and do a lot of lift service, the sb150 would be a no brainer. For another pov of the sb130 on trails that i like, check out outdoor gold's most recent review. Its a good sample of what the sb130 is capable of.
Enjoy the post ride review with Tyler. I somehow feel he wanted the sb130 and was on the edge. He might have been happier with a sb130 lunch ride. He seems to like to pop off everything and the dpx2 is definitely more lively and poppy.
Nice, comment. Thanks! Yeah, a 130lr would be sick!
That comment pretty much sums up why I went 130!
Outdoor Gold is sick as well..! Shows what can be smashed on the 130
Post ride great! Keep it coming. Love the analysis.
Great content & new style. Well done!
Thank you!
Out of all the reviews I've watched, this was by far the most helpful in terms of really laying out the differences btwn these two bikes and why someone would by one over the other. Would love to hear your thoughts on the sb150 vs sb165.
Thank you
Dopest Bike review yet!! Haha love the comparison and honesty about riding style and what your looking to really get out of each bike! Maybe the Guy who really really wants the 130 over the 150 should consider shock upgrade to coil or X2 & the Grip2 Cartridge Swap~ Great Vid!
Yeah, the G2 fork would likely make all the difference on that 130 for dudes who really want to get more out of the 130 without going all the way to the sb150.
can you please make a video on something like the evil offering or the evil insurgent LB?
it's just a matter of getting the bike for a few days....
@@mtbyumyum Let's hope you can get them then. Loving the videos keep them coming. we all enjoy them!
Dude your reviews are awesome! If you ever have the chance to review a Banshee Rune I would love to see it!!!
Thanks guys!
Like the new format.
Nicely done, guys.
Always great reviews, thanks. Can I expect better climbing on the 150 vs Hightower LT?
I enjoyed watching this nearly 3-yr old video and I'm glad you're leaving them up online. Watching this begs the question, have any bikes come on the market which can do both of what these two did so well, both climb and descend as well as both of these?
Thank you. No, I'm unaware of a bike that climbs like the sb130 and descends like the 150.... as far as I know, it doesn't exist.
Maybe the SB 140 🤔😀
Nice video guys I thought the dialogue at the end was definitely value added. I think you should keep that format.
Also, a tech question. Can you tell me what resolution and fps you're running your GoPro at? It looks good and I'm trying to get mine dialed in. Thank you!
Thanks for the comments on your preference for the 150 and the grip 2. Very helpful!!! What sram drivetrain would you buy if you were in the market for a 150?
Yeah, the G2 fork is well worth it even if you went for the sb130. GX drive trail is awesome stuff and I'd be happy with it if I had other financial priorities or if I were on a budget. I like lighter weight bikes so I always opt for the x01 or xx1. But the GX is good stuff too.... just a bit heavier and maybe the cassette will wear out quicker. Good luck!
Hi Jason, i really love watching your test rides...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 i wonder if you are planning to test ride the new SB165, to know which is more fun to ride between Megatower, SB150 and SB165? Sad thing is there is no available demo for this bike in UAE🇦🇪 ... Thank you
I'll see what I can do in the next month or two. Thanks!
MTB yumyum Thank you👍🏼👍🏼
I think a looooot of this review ends up coming down to the fact that the SB150 is using Grip2 and Float x2 and the 130 is running dpx2 and Fit4. Would be curious to see what they both felt like with the same suspension, because the 150 setup will make any bike feel like a godlike charger DH.
Yeah, for sure a factor between the two bikes...
Will you be reviewing the Sb130 lunch ride anytime soon?
Great job in the reviews. Keep them coming.
No plans of right now...
Cool. Well I’ll keep an eye on the channel in case you do. Thanks for the reply.
I really like the post ride dialogue. Maybe you play good cop and he plays bad cop
haha thanks dude!
@MTB good video. The format is cool with the two of you (or two people in general). Doing a pros and cons for each of you would add perspective, but it’s also a good change cool as it stands.
As for bikes, I’m looking for single bike that is a great climber, with a handling second. The Ibis Ripley, Hightower, and now the SB100 are on my list. Is it worth considering the SB130 or Ripmo?
Really like hearing from both of you, two inputs are better than one. Really want the 150, but not sure it's the right bike for Sedona.
Yeah, thanks. Really glad Tyler could weigh in on this video!
I have a 4.5c and would like to add a bigger bike, but dont think I will need a 150. Do you think a 130 would be a good compliment to my 4.5. Love your videos...keep it up!
Assuming you can get your hands on one, let's see the new Evil Offering if you can.
Jason, any plan to test the new Trek Remedy? Not sure I remember you ever testing a Trek (perhaps I missed it), but I've read some pretty stellar things about that bike.
tyler is da maaan, wise decision, nice comprising guys, thnx!
totally!
Definitely the end ride dialogue was great.
thank you!
Love the post ride dialogue 😀
Tyler got the 150” cos he rides like Aron Gwynn in the downhill World Cup 👍🏽👏🤣awesome review guys ,👍🏽👍🏽
The fall colors out there are sick!!!
Utah in the fall is incredible!
This is easy - get the lunch ride and get the best of both worlds!
Yeah, I think you're right! the lr wasnt available at the time of this video...
Ya, just have to build up ones muscles a little, and the 150 will climb just like the 130... Good discussion ✔
haha yep!
Best review yet! I live in St. G and own a 5.5 right now which I love. I am curious how tht 150 climbs compared to the 5.5. I feel the 5.5 I can take out all day, and wondering if I would lose that in the 150. What are your thoughts? Thanks
Tyler has two bikes, the sb150 and an Intense Sniper Trail. I mention this because if he could only have one bike he'd pick the sb150 again... not sure I would go that direction but he likes to smash stuff. It's been a bit from the time I last rode the sb5.5 so I hesitate to comment on the all day ability between the two bikes.... I loved the sb150 though! Good luck!
The SB150 climbed way better than I expected. Looking forward to a SB130 demo. IDK if I had an off day when I demoed the switchblade but I felt like I was climbing better on the SB150 and definitely was superior downhill. You said the Pivot climbs better, but is it night and day better or they pretty similar? Im sure I just had an off day.