Razer Panthera SF5 Street Fighter 5 Edition Review Unboxing

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  • Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024

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  • @kingjoe3rd
    @kingjoe3rd Год назад +7

    3 years later and I still envy this stick. If I had one, I would want to get it converted to work on PS5 (obviously) and maybe it already works for it out the box.

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  Год назад +3

      It should work for ps4 and ps5

    • @pandrions
      @pandrions Год назад +2

      I wish razer restock it

    • @jcramirez77
      @jcramirez77 Год назад +2

      i have the panthera mvc infinite and i can confirm it works on ps5

    • @phanx
      @phanx Год назад +1

      I use my Razer Panthera to play SF6 on my PS5. It works AMAZING.

    • @Sforza_
      @Sforza_ 11 месяцев назад +2

      I have it and can confirm it works for PlayStation 5

  • @JoystickNY
    @JoystickNY  5 лет назад +44

    Note: This video is not sponsored, I purchased my self. This is a great arcade stick for under $200, i will be making another video for an arcade stick under $150 coming soon. Thank you all for watching. 🙏❤️

    • @trevvstheworld
      @trevvstheworld 5 лет назад +3

      Love your reviews man! If you gonna do a under 150 review......you should review Qanba Crystal, HORI RAP N, HORI Real Arcade Pro Kai, Mayflash sticks,Mad Katz TES+.

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  5 лет назад +3

      TwitchyTrev great suggestions, 👍 thank you, some of those are actually on my list, all i need is just more time lol, cuz my full time job takes a lot of my time ❤️🙏 thank you for watching tho

    • @trevvstheworld
      @trevvstheworld 5 лет назад +2

      @@JoystickNY Oh rad dude. Look forward to them in the future. No rush lol. And yeah anytime my dude.

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  5 лет назад +1

      TwitchyTrev appreciate the love and support 🙏 you guys motivate me

    • @SirCharles.
      @SirCharles. 5 лет назад +2

      How much did you get this Panthera for? It's $185 currently on Amazon.
      The SC edition Hori RAP N is at $100 tho, that looks like a solid stick IMO.

  • @vilestine
    @vilestine 4 года назад +15

    I like how you used it for 30 seconds and go "I recommend this stick, very accurate" :D

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +14

      vilestine Great observation 👍 tho
      i own this stick since day one, this is my 2nd one for my collection, check out my qanba drone video from a year ago, you can see the razer panthera sf5 in that video. And if you seen my other videos, it sometimes appear too. I used most of the sticks on the market, either from events or my friends has them, and i have been playing fighting game since year 2000, most of my life is spent in arcades and internet cafes. And sometimes my videos are not recorded in one day. There are a-lot of behind the scene and testing that doesn’t go on to the video. But i totally get what you mean tho. Thank you for pointing it out. But have you notice a lot of channels, you can see the person doesnt even have a clue how to hold or use a stick, and they clearly dont play fighting games, they just voice over mashing gameplay for 30 sec, and call it a day, as for me, you can see i am passionated about the equipment and quite good in most fighting game. You get to see my Live gameplays, notice i hardly do “voice overs” over footage, cuz thats too easy. Again, thank you, sometimes i feel the same way as you do when i watch certain videos too.
      🙏🕹👍❤️

    • @vilestine
      @vilestine 4 года назад

      @@JoystickNY I can clearly see that you can use the stick, my comment was not meant to be sarcastic!

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +1

      vilestine you mean it was meant to be sarcastic? 😊

    • @vilestine
      @vilestine 4 года назад +1

      @@JoystickNY English is not my first language xD

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +4

      vilestine i understand you tho, thank you 😊 i think you meant to say is “my comment is to be sarcastic”, meaning “i was joking”, i think u accidentally put the word “Not”in there, which means “i was not joking”. Just to clear the confusion if you know what i mean? 🙏 welcome to the channel ❤️

  • @Pickleballwalkthrough
    @Pickleballwalkthrough 4 года назад +6

    Just found this stick for 127$ at my local micro center they have two left and trying to get rid of them. Gonna pick it up. Thanks for all the advice .

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +2

      Larenzo Walker thats a great price at 127, premium stick at a mid range price 👍❤️🙏🕹 thank you for watching

  • @HCIbn
    @HCIbn 4 года назад +7

    I’m the same way too. I like to keep my boxes in good condition.

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +3

      HCIbn yup 👍 i like to collect these things lol

  • @carlcouture1023
    @carlcouture1023 3 года назад +1

    Yooooooooooo why did I get all emotional over the art's story? I was like tearing up over here!

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  3 года назад +1

      You probably have good memories 😊🕹🙏❤️

  • @Douphipp455
    @Douphipp455 5 лет назад +10

    Great vid. Love the set and background choice!

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  5 лет назад

      Thank you 🙏 since i started my channel, i try to learn more about audio, lighting and video editing softwares.

  • @davidgn40
    @davidgn40 4 года назад +7

    10:13 I got the original Panthera last year and it didn't come with a bat top.
    Contacted Razer and they said they could give it to me but I'd have to return the stick as they couldn't ship only the bat top. Decided not to send it back because I didn't want to wait even longer to continue using my stick.
    Can't find any Sanwa bat tops here lol but I'm still hoping. Great review, thank you!

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +3

      David GN40 thank you for sharing, your right, is not a very big deal. Its not worth the hassle for something too small. You can just pick one up next time when you are buying extra buttons and stuff 🙏 thank you for watching

  • @bludika
    @bludika 6 месяцев назад

    this is MY daily driver stick, it's perfect in every way. Good weight, good size, clean design, no fuss, easy to mod, easy open, this stick is my ideal stick

  • @PeterAlanAnderson
    @PeterAlanAnderson 4 года назад +4

    I recently discovered your channel. These videos have been very helpful in choosing the base for my new hitbox project. Ended up going with the Panthera SFV edition.

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      Peter Anderson thank you 🙏❤️ great choice, btw, how do you make a hitbox out of the casing? Curious to see the progress. You should post it ok twitter or instagram 👍

    • @PeterAlanAnderson
      @PeterAlanAnderson 4 года назад +1

      @@JoystickNY Can do. I've already made a hitbox from a Hori RAP V. Bought a metal plate from Jasen's Customs with hitbox button layout meant to fit a RAP V. Swap existing plate for new plate. Install SOCD scrubber and buttons.
      Used fight sticks already have all the internals and system buttons. Cheap solution with great build quality.

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      Peter Anderson sounds like a nice and fun project ❤️🙏

  • @4420Johnny
    @4420Johnny 5 лет назад +14

    You must really like the sf5 panthera to purchase the stick twice. I really like the stick, give it 9/10, -1 for no mod art. But the akuma ryu art is awsome, nice build. BTW i saw earlier video you had mini screen practicing sf5. what products was that? Great video

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  5 лет назад

      Johnny Nguyen thank you, Yes i tend to buy things again if they are a good deal, sometimes to collect. I really like the art work too, i usually like the arcade as is, i tend to not modify the art work or appearance of a controller. That monitor is a external DSLR monitor for my dslr camera, its not really meant to be used for consoles, i was trying to fit my tv in to the frame and i had a hard time, so i figure does this tiny monitor works, and it worked after i plug in the hdmi cable, and i used it for those video cuz it can show my big and the monitor in the frame ❤️🙏 i got it on amazon, mine is the andycine 160, but if you search dslr monitor, a bunch of them comes up. They are pretty much all the same but with different branding on it, and also, there is a slight input lag for gaming, so i don recommend it for gaming, and the battery only last about 1 hour or less

  • @arongpisontnakul5145
    @arongpisontnakul5145 4 года назад +2

    Thank you so much for this video. i was deciding between the Madcatz TE2+ and Razer Panthera. and this video made my decision so easy. Thank you

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +1

      The razer is on sale on amazon for 109 right now, very good deal

    • @arongpisontnakul5145
      @arongpisontnakul5145 4 года назад

      JoyStickNY yes thank you. I will make sure to follow your channel and your recommendations all the time

  • @DiscoJoseph
    @DiscoJoseph 4 года назад +2

    Bought one recently and I was pleasantly surprised to see the battop!

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +4

      sausageman54 you got the good batch 👍😂 thank you for watching 🙏

    • @DiscoJoseph
      @DiscoJoseph 4 года назад +2

      JoyStickNY my pleasure enjoy your vids and thorough fightstick critiques.

  • @alexnostalgix
    @alexnostalgix 5 лет назад +2

    nice bump in the video department friend! great video too!

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  5 лет назад +1

      Alex Nostalgix thank you thank you 😂 Everyday i am trying to learn more about audio, adobe software, finalcut, imovies, lighting, camera gears and stuff, is a never ending process

  • @olimphus26
    @olimphus26 4 года назад +3

    been using it for a year, excellent stick, made some upgrades to it and changed the art tho.

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      Cuentos de la Cripta u didnt like the sf5 art? Is so beautiful. Or u had a different panthera

    • @olimphus26
      @olimphus26 4 года назад +2

      @@JoystickNY i got this one, it was really cool but i got bored of seeing the same art after like 7 months or so. Its a feature razer should've kept from the atrox, the ability to change art.

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +1

      Cuentos de la Cripta yea, this one is tough to change, i guess they thought people buy this for the art, so they didnt want to spent the extra money thinking people mostly wont change it 😂

  • @SinX4Lyfe
    @SinX4Lyfe 4 года назад +1

    MVC one is on sale for $109.99 @ Amazon.

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +1

      SinX4Lyfe thank you for letting me know, i usually check pretty often and post them too ❤️🙏

  • @jacebeleren1703
    @jacebeleren1703 4 года назад +1

    Funny random fact: In my country (Greece) , the DBZ version of this stick is 270$ , whereas the SF and MVSCI versions are 150-170$ , somehow :P

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +2

      So different in price, i would just go for the cheaper one, hardware is the same 👍🕹

  • @petekaiser
    @petekaiser 5 месяцев назад

    After all this time i would still like to get this stick but a pain in the ass to maintain just because of the cable. The only solution i have found that can make any 5 pin to USB A cable work for this is having to have the board connected to the female pin in the stick is changing the green and red wires and having to resolder it again 😅

  • @kumaSOevl
    @kumaSOevl 5 лет назад +2

    I really enjoy your videos

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  5 лет назад

      LiQUORNOW228 thank you so much ❤️🙏 i really enjoy making gaming related content, hopefully one day i can go part time or find a job in this field in the future

  • @bigdough1326
    @bigdough1326 5 лет назад +8

    I see you picked up one of the last sticks from amazon

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  5 лет назад +2

      I bought one 3 years ago, recently i picked up one with a little discount, i figure let me do a unboxing video on it, thank you for watching 🙏

    • @bigdough1326
      @bigdough1326 5 лет назад +1

      Joystick NY of course dude love the content you put out, helps me make smart purchases

    • @bigdough1326
      @bigdough1326 5 лет назад +1

      Joystick NY also the lighting and shots look amazing

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  5 лет назад

      Big Dough 🙏 thank you, had to watch a lot lighting videos for guidance, still learning everyday 😂

  • @jarnbjorn4522
    @jarnbjorn4522 6 дней назад

    it's 2024 already but i still want one.

  • @GamerTagged
    @GamerTagged 4 года назад +1

    Great video. A quick tip if I may. Grab yourself a lapel mic that plugs directly in to your camera. Your audio will improve massively. The BOYA BY-M1 mic is great at a very low cost 🙌

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +1

      Gamer Tagged i will definitely check that out, thank you for the tip 🙏 i bought a rode mic recently, check my latest video and tell me if the audio is better if you have time ❤️

    • @GamerTagged
      @GamerTagged 4 года назад +1

      @@JoystickNY awesome just watched. Much better. The closer you can get the mic will always give cleaner sound. Lavalier (or lapel) mics are great because they are descrete and are just a few inches from your mouth.

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +1

      Gamer Tagged thank you, i will probabaly invesnt in some lavalier mic later down the road, i seen some before too, i figure this boom mic will be easier for now if i want to go outdoors

  • @jessemartinez1797
    @jessemartinez1797 4 года назад +1

    Ok I bought a aftermarket replacement cable from china I ordered it July 11 and it came August 21 it took to long it is braided blue and less then half the length razer panthera sfv cable but it works current all button are mapped right I have USB extension cable so I'm good to go I can put away the original cable and not worry about damaging it

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      That is good to know, thank you for the info 🙏❤️

    • @kaaz5584
      @kaaz5584 2 года назад

      Can I please get a link to that cable u bought?

  • @TheOzMan22
    @TheOzMan22 4 года назад +1

    Just bought one today for $189. Still need to get better at doing combs

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +1

      TheOzMan nice what game are you playing now?

    • @TheOzMan22
      @TheOzMan22 4 года назад +1

      JoyStickNY at the moment I’m playing street fighter V. Thinking about getting the champion DLC but idk if it worth it I have season 1&2 dlc. Also have db fighterz thinking on getting those dlcs but idk haha

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +1

      TheOzMan if you already got season 1 and 2, dont waste the money, u are better off challenge modes and story mode to unlock the character u want to play, chances are you are not going to main everyone of those characters , save the money

    • @TheOzMan22
      @TheOzMan22 4 года назад +1

      JoyStickNY thanks man. Yea I like playing with Ibuki idk I spelled that right ha. But thanks again I might just buy the dbz dlc then

  • @gtx21
    @gtx21 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for the review. I choose this one over "Marvel vs Capcom Infinte" and "Dragon Ball FighterZ" edition. I my opinion "Street Figher V" edition Has the best artwork. Hope that will work with ps5 or atleast will be converter.
    For me was little bit more money due to import fees and also this is a special edition but I hope for my 1st arcade stick wont dissapoint me

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      Little Dragon Games i agree, i like this artwork the most out of the 3, i think its going to he a good long term stick, and its a great collectors stick too 👍🙏❤️

    • @hasansyed1941
      @hasansyed1941 4 года назад

      Where did you buy it from im trying to buy one now and can't find it

    • @gtx21
      @gtx21 4 года назад

      @@hasansyed1941 I bought in January at Amazon soo long time ago. Try them otherwise you might look for 2nd hand one with great condition on eBay

    • @hasansyed1941
      @hasansyed1941 4 года назад

      @@gtx21 im looking on ebay cant find any and Amazon it doesn't show up when I search it so idk

  • @colombin92
    @colombin92 4 года назад +2

    You cant modify the artwork? I love this video man! Greetings from Argentina!

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +1

      Gabriel Colombo thank you so much for the and support 🙏❤️, unfortunately its not art work mod friendly, you can still change it, but you have to use a blow dryer to heat up the glue and peel off the whole plastic, its pretty much messy.

  • @ludmilpan
    @ludmilpan Год назад +1

    I'm thinking of buying the Panthera DBFZ edition, officially licenced for PS4 , so I'm wondering if it is working on the PS5, aswell as PC. Do you know if it does or not? In my country I have a very limited selection of sticks that I can buy, so this is the one available at the moment. Thanks for the vid.

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  Год назад +1

      Yes, all license ps4 stick will work with ps5

  • @biandanxious3438
    @biandanxious3438 5 лет назад +2

    Nice vid!

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  5 лет назад +1

      The Diva thank you for always supporting ❤️👍🙏 i always see your animed flashing profile pic ❤️😊 i really appreciate it

    • @biandanxious3438
      @biandanxious3438 5 лет назад +2

      Joystick NY
      Thanks!
      I really enjoy your vids and I will keep supporting.
      👍😊

  • @walterpicado9630
    @walterpicado9630 11 месяцев назад +1

    I know he said u can’t get an extra cable. But anyone know how to really? mine broke and know I just have an arcade stick collecting dust

  • @itsthatYEStoogoodguy
    @itsthatYEStoogoodguy 4 года назад +1

    Amazing video I love fightsticks these stuff are so satisfying to unbox :D, I got my SFV MadCatz TE2+ for PC 4 months ago very happy with it but I might get one of these SFV Razer Pantheras too.

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +1

      Fahad i have them and i love them both; they are definitely good to collect too, they will be hard to find in a few years. Beautiful sticks 👍🕹❤️🙏

    • @itsthatYEStoogoodguy
      @itsthatYEStoogoodguy 4 года назад +1

      @@JoystickNY I agree 100% ↓ ↘ → 👊 ❤️.

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      Fahad i cant wait for the ps5 fight sticks to release. They are alll going to be usb c

    • @itsthatYEStoogoodguy
      @itsthatYEStoogoodguy 4 года назад

      @@JoystickNY Not a big fan of any micro USB, The one that comes with TE2+ and the panthera is the best you can screw them.

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +1

      No micro usb, is going to be USB-C, the new type connecton, i think its gonna be crazy. They are going to release new sticks to work with new ps5 etc

  • @nan2236
    @nan2236 5 лет назад +2

    Great video man keep it up!!!

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  5 лет назад +1

      🙏 thank you for the love ❤️ and support

    • @nan2236
      @nan2236 5 лет назад +1

      Joystick NY always man!!

  • @tamparongmonjacob857
    @tamparongmonjacob857 4 года назад +1

    Yow this stick is fire tho but it is really hard to find here in my country here in Philippines

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      Alixis Burudin yea, its very hard to find even in the usa now, i think they discontinued for a long time, and its limited quantity, people are buying it for collections now ❤️🙏 thank you for watching

  • @Jay-rd6fe
    @Jay-rd6fe 4 года назад +1

    i think its such a shame that it does not come with abattop anymore neither with the poanthera evo ,i would not have made it that much more pricey for them to add it .again people cutting cost on things that dont inpact value

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +1

      Jay i agree, i have heard some people said they bought this recently, and they have the bat top, i guess its diff batch to batch

    • @Jay-rd6fe
      @Jay-rd6fe 4 года назад +1

      @@JoystickNY yeah might be old stock but the newer ones same with the evo panthera is just a really cut down version of the original wich saddens me ofc *not saying its a bad stick at all* just sad that the original is the best in my opinion

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      Jay yea, i didnt understand the point of the evo, mainly becuz it was priced at 199. Reasonable price should to be around 119-149 max. Its a good stick, but i just didnt like the pricing. I guess thats why it was on sale for 110 all the time

    • @Jay-rd6fe
      @Jay-rd6fe 4 года назад +1

      @@JoystickNY only in usa in eu its still that price thats why i think daija is better yes has like 2 ms respodn time diffrentce or so but its way more solid and doesnt look and feel more like a cheap hori

  • @rtaaang
    @rtaaang 4 года назад +2

    Hey man, really enjoying your content so far. I was considering the DBFZ one. Were there any downsides to it? Or do they play the same. It's on sale for 190 AUD ( for 8 more hours) which is about 125 USD. I think value is great, I've also hesrd durability problems with Razer, but i can tell you love it!

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +1

      Sorry about the late reply, i am catching up everyday, you are correct, the dbfz is the same as this one, this is a very popular stick, alot of pros use it in tournaments. For 125, its a good price. 🙏❤️

    • @rtaaang
      @rtaaang 4 года назад +1

      @@JoystickNY pulled the trigger yesterday, thank you very much for your response and hope you are safe and well in these times!

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +1

      Richard thats good, glad you didnt miss it 👍🕹

  • @TrojanSalesmen1
    @TrojanSalesmen1 5 лет назад +1

    I just wish this was ez to find. I also wish I heard about this b4 I bought my obsidian.

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  5 лет назад

      TrojanSalesmen oh, you couldnt find it before? But your obsidian is a beautiful stick tho. The qanba obsidian right? That is an excellent stick 👍

    • @secondwolfjiro7204
      @secondwolfjiro7204 4 года назад +1

      if u want download the app offerup mad people selling un opened box for 120ish. i bought a dragonball z panthera with customized sanwah buttons. for 100. it was used but i been using it for a year and still works like a charm!

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      SecondWolfJiro thats good value, def a not a bad deal to get a used good srick for less if you plan to change the parts out 👍🕹

  • @jedimaster12100
    @jedimaster12100 4 года назад +1

    Nice. I bought the Marvel vs Capcom Infinite version of the stick about a month ago on sale. How do you store the cable? I was putting mine back in the slot, but you recommended not to do that.

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      Jose A yea, if you play it everyday, you dont have detach it, you can just leave it in like if it were not detachable, and put the cable on top of the stick outside, if you are not going to use it for a while and you want to store it, then u can just leave it in the big compartment, basically under the buttons area

    • @jedimaster12100
      @jedimaster12100 4 года назад +1

      @@JoystickNY Ah got you. Thank you very much.

  • @rtaaang
    @rtaaang 4 года назад +1

    Hey man it's be again hahaha do you know if it's possible to remap the buttons? I want to change the options button to the touchpad and vice versa

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +1

      I dont think its possible on the ps4, not that i know of tho, maybe pc has softwares for that, sorry bud 🕹🙏

    • @rtaaang
      @rtaaang 4 года назад

      @@JoystickNY all good, cheers legend

  • @GROB410
    @GROB410 4 года назад +1

    I really enjoyed this unboxing! Can this be used for PC?

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +1

      GROB410 thank you, yes, pc ps3 and ps4 🙏❤️

    • @GROB410
      @GROB410 4 года назад +1

      JoyStickNY thank you do need to download drivers? Sorry for all the questions

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +1

      GROB410 i dont think so, it plugs in to steam with no problem when i use it at my friends place , other emulator i am not sure tho

    • @GROB410
      @GROB410 4 года назад +1

      JoyStickNY thanks brother

  • @GabeTheGrump
    @GabeTheGrump 2 года назад

    Well that sucks I was thinking of getting this as a "dream" stick when I have extra money but I found out it's too hard to change the artwork. You can do it on the evo version but that doesn't have the nice door I wanted and instead you need to unscrew from the bottom. I'm not comfortable having to use screws every time I open it to change something.

  • @Davilas941
    @Davilas941 3 года назад

    I can't wait for PS5 Arcade Stick Review from you. XD

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  3 года назад +1

      Thank you so much, i look forward to them when they come out, i believe the earliest fighting game we are going to see on ps5 will he guilty gear. 🙏❤️

    • @Davilas941
      @Davilas941 3 года назад

      @@JoystickNY Awesome! :)

  • @ace052330
    @ace052330 4 года назад +1

    Have you noticed there is glue on and around the stick/restrictor plate under the Panthera? I recently got this same stick on Amazon. I really love it but wanted to change the 4 way plate to an 8 way. Noticed it has glue under there. I have never seen that before and not really sure what to do. Do you leave the stock 4 way plates in all your sticks that come with those? I can use the 4 ways fine myself, but the 8 way ones look to be even better. At least I want to give them a try and see.

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      Darkoasis1 glue on the screws are pretty normal, i have glue on a lot of my sticks, if thats what you mean. Definitely try the octagon gate and see which one you like better ❤️🙏

    • @ace052330
      @ace052330 4 года назад +1

      JoyStickNY I mean on the connector. If you open up your Panthera and the place where the joystick/gate is. There is a little white connector attached to it on the left side that all the wires are running into. It has glue over that white connector. If you go to Amazon and search Razer Panthera the SFV edition. Go down to comments there is one a guy talking about the glue on it. I would post picture of it if I could. Anyways to remove the white connector tab thingy I will have to somehow remove the glue. Is that normal? There are no screws around where I am talking about at least that I can see. Do I even have to remove that little white connector to change the gate to an 8 way? Hopefully not. Thanks for the reply🙂

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      Darkoasis1 that is normal too, they just added glue to make it a more secure connection, i have seen it in many of my sticks, sometimes the guy over do it with the glue lol 🤣

    • @ace052330
      @ace052330 4 года назад +1

      JoyStickNY Oh ok good lol. So do I have to remove that to change my gate? Or so I just simply swap out the gate via the tabs and can leave the connector as is? I hope I can jus leave the connector as is and won’t have to remove it and mess with the glue to change to the 8 way gate. I also ordered 8 white Sanwa OBSFS silent push buttons, 2 white OBSF 24mm Sanwa push buttons, and a white Sanwa balltop. Was thinking this stick would look great with all white buttons and balltop, and got the silent versions as well. Thanks so much for the answers.

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      Darkoasis1 you dont have to remove anything to change the gate, theres 4 plastic hooks that holds the gate, simply just use some pressure and its comes off, and snap the new one on 👍

  • @panjikaran
    @panjikaran 5 лет назад +2

    Hi, i wanted to ask you if you can suggest an arcade stick under $150, which one should i go for any recommendations

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  5 лет назад +1

      Sujit Das feel free to ask me anything 😊 My favorite arcade stick for under 150 is the Hori Rap4 kai, (i will make a video on that soon) but it has hori hayabusa parts in it, i love it, but most people dont. Most people prefer sanwa. So if you get that stick + 35$ in sanwa parts, it wouldnt make sense cuz that makes the stick almost $200. At that point you might as well get a $200 sanwa stick to begin with, you know what i mean? Cuz the lever is $20, and 6buttons will be $15.
      If you are not in a hurry, i would say wait abit and when black friday come and hoidays, we should see some deals.

    • @panjikaran
      @panjikaran 5 лет назад +2

      @@JoystickNY but i already own sanwa parts i just want either a korean stick or hayabusa, im confused on hori real arcade pro n or kai 4

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  5 лет назад +1

      Sujit Das all hardware is the same only three differences. 1, rap4 is flat and longer, rapN is boxy and higher, i prefer rap4 design. 2. The rap4 has NO headphone jack, rapN has. 3. Rap4 has viewlix button layout, rapN has noir button layout, noir is less popular.
      Both same price. Let me know if you have more question, look up noir vs viewlix layout on google if you are curious

    • @dixodixoo1305
      @dixodixoo1305 4 года назад +1

      hi i want sell that cheap., bcoz i dont use it. i got it from winning the tournament. u wanna buy ?

    • @panjikaran
      @panjikaran 4 года назад +1

      @@dixodixoo1305 how much ?

  • @OKIOKI888
    @OKIOKI888 3 года назад

    Hi. Great review man. Love your channel.The razer panthera is my favorite design but i'm from argentina and with our money value and all the taxes i can't afford it :(
    Question: The mayflash f300 ...i can't find imput lag specs. Is it good in that aspect? Would you prefer that one or the madcatz alpha?

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  3 года назад +1

      I havent done input lag test of any of the sticks yet, but i heard and read the f300 doesnt score as high as the more expensive stick, but that is only in mili seconds, for casual play; it is definitely not noticeable. Out of the 2, i would recommend the f300 over the alpha; the alpha is way too small. And modding wise is probably a pain 🙏❤️

  • @iHernandez620
    @iHernandez620 4 года назад +1

    No headphone jack ?

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      Ivan Hernandez Sedano i dont think this one has a headphone jack 🕹

  • @CHiLiXDD
    @CHiLiXDD 3 года назад

    I recently started watching your videos on fight stick recommendations and saw this SFV Panthera. I got lucky and bought one on Amazon. My concern was when you said the biggest problem is finding a replacement cable if it was to get damaged. Is there anywhere I can buy an extra cable as a back up? This fight stick has the best looking Art I've ever seen. Thanks for your review

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  3 года назад

      I think razer sells them now officially on their website, back then they dont, i think they listen to customer and now they sell them.

  • @MetaSynForYourSoul
    @MetaSynForYourSoul 4 года назад +1

    Ugh I want that battop! I wonder why they cheaped out?

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +2

      MetaSynForYourSoul i know right, probably out of supplies and too much to order a new batch lol

    • @MetaSynForYourSoul
      @MetaSynForYourSoul 4 года назад +1

      @@JoystickNY Or just to make a lil extra coin off of us old school arcaders. I'm ordering 2 battops and extra buttons for my mayflash f500 elite and im gonna order the pass through for ps4 too so I ain't gotta plug in my controller all the time. (Though it is a great way to charge it...) I'm still debating on getting this or the Quanba Crystal for my next stick though.

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +1

      MetaSynForYourSoul i would recommend waiting for a ps5 stick tho, most like it will be backward compatible with the ps4 🕹

    • @MetaSynForYourSoul
      @MetaSynForYourSoul 4 года назад +1

      @@JoystickNY That's a good point I'll prob do that.

  • @bygonebebygones8503
    @bygonebebygones8503 Год назад

    I boutght a Razor atrox for about £150, these sticks in reality are well over priced considering the build items. You'd need to consider the warranty and the quality the parts that come with it. I've had to replace my sanwa buttons with seimitsus and the JLF (with an oversized actuator) is going to get replaced with a seimitsu due to the large deadzone. It's worth noting I saw a great comparison from one of your other videos so many thanks for that !

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  Год назад +1

      Happy to help, the atrox is basically the panthera for the xbox

    • @MCFCAdonis
      @MCFCAdonis Год назад +1

      WHere did you buy it, It seems to be sold out everywhere

  • @R15A5
    @R15A5 3 года назад

    Bought mine a like 2 years or 3 ago and got the extra top

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  3 года назад +1

      Yea back then it has one, my frd got it too back then, they being a little cheap now lol

  • @YoursTrulyy
    @YoursTrulyy 4 года назад

    Thanks for the heads up on this stick! I just bought one just now thanks to your notification. 159$ 😍😍😍 Does this stick really come with an eight way gate? That's that I'm reading. Thank you!!! Keep up the awesome videos!!!

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      It comes with a square gate, which is 8 directions. Feel free to buy a octagon gate to see if you like it better 🙏❤️

    • @YoursTrulyy
      @YoursTrulyy 4 года назад

      @@JoystickNY Just tried it. I do not like it at all lol. That's just my preference. Some other people like it a lot though. Thanks again for all the help and information.

  • @R15A5
    @R15A5 13 дней назад

    I got mine i want to get rid of any suggested price to sell for ? It was lightly used

  • @michaelv7394
    @michaelv7394 4 года назад

    Great informative video, love this stick.
    Btw you can buy replacement cables on Amazone or arcade webshop like jasenscustoms :) just not official razer ones.

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      Michael V thats good to know, they are compatible with this?

    • @michaelv7394
      @michaelv7394 4 года назад +1

      @@JoystickNY sorry I stand corrected.. Apperently those cables won't work. Well they can, you just have to modd it. Jasens has a video on YT showing how.
      For a plug and play option I could only find Marvelous Customs. They sell panthera ones for 30 usd. Can't find any reviews if they actually work.

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      Michael V thank you for the updated information, i dont know why razer does this, cant buy replacement cables for the panthera, and cant buy replacement buttons for the Evo. I wonder what their thinking process and logic is sometimes

    • @michaelv7394
      @michaelv7394 4 года назад +2

      @@JoystickNY no problem! Thank you for the great content. You are one of my favorite content creators.
      Yeah really weird.. I bought the panthera with sanwa buttons recently (marvel vs capcom edition). Really worried the cable is gonna break in the future. Do you have any tips on storing the USB? Im kinda worried about taking it in and out the comparment on the inside.
      Have to store it tho, leaving it plugged is no option.
      2 young kids at home. They'll wreck that usb faster then I can spell it 😅
      Greetings from Holland.

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      Michael V i leave it out on the big compartment, i try not to roll it back in the small compartment. That should help a bit

  • @gerardosagastume7554
    @gerardosagastume7554 4 года назад +1

    Are this ones 30mm sanwa buttons? . I already bought Marvel VS Capcom edition and I want to buy some extra buttons. Can u help me please!!

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +1

      gerardo sagastume yes, the mvc panthera is 30mm sanwa buttons. 👍

    • @gerardosagastume7554
      @gerardosagastume7554 4 года назад +1

      @@JoystickNY tnks :)

  • @jotecks
    @jotecks 4 года назад +1

    Mad catz or panthera?

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +1

      jotecks i would go for the cheaper one, for my taste in terms of design, i like the madcatz te2+ more than the razer panthera, becuz its more flat lower profile, but both are equally good as you will see both in many tournaments. 👍 i kept both in the box for collection purpose; hardly use them

    • @jotecks
      @jotecks 4 года назад +1

      JoyStickNY thanks for the info! Also what are your thoughts about the tes plus?

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +2

      jotecks its the best value , best its 119 for a good stick with sanwa parts, cant go wrong, its better than buying a qanba drone and add buttons and lever your self

  • @froggy5584
    @froggy5584 4 года назад

    i'm just curious i have the db z fighter edition of this for ps4 i use it on pc and i notice that the player 1,2,3,and 4 lights dont turn on. does the lights only turn on when another arcade stick is detected i did try with other controllers plugged in but nothing happened i also noticed in your video your lights for player 1,2,3,and 4 did not turn on either and you had it plugged in to an actual ps4. i just want to make sure there is no defect everything else works on my stick and i love it and its actually my first one i ever bought thanks by the way for explaining about the bat knob i was wondering why mine did not come with one and now i know keep up the good work on your videos

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      You have good observation 👍 i actually never pay attention to that light, now that you mention it; i am curious to check it, if you dont mind shooting me a msg on ig or twitter or fb, to remind me to check it. My stick is in the box, i kept it as a collection ❤️🙏

  • @nina_summers
    @nina_summers 3 года назад

    The blue one that I like is not available on Amazon :(( this is the only one that’s available

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  3 года назад

      Sometimes they come back on, check it often and you might catch it 🙏❤️ thank you for dropping by

  • @MSDarkspyro
    @MSDarkspyro 3 года назад

    Who are the people behind ryu and akuma in both pictures?

  • @itaiitai8960
    @itaiitai8960 6 месяцев назад

    hey man, what will be the cheapest way to convert it to be compatible with Xbox ? is there any cheap solution ?(not brook)

  • @jonathanmichaels8331
    @jonathanmichaels8331 4 года назад +1

    OMG this is for me. I look like Ryu and my demon within is something I have conquered over my lifetime. I have too matured. Thank you.

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      Jonathan Michaels thank you for watching 🙏🕹❤️

  • @TherapySessionsTC
    @TherapySessionsTC 4 года назад +1

    How do you usually clean your panthera?? Mine is new but I wanna know how to keep it nice and shiny

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +1

      Gloomy Doomy i just use a microfiber cloth and water. With a little bit of soap to get rid of the oil on it. Not too wet tho

    • @TherapySessionsTC
      @TherapySessionsTC 4 года назад +1

      Oh okay thanks man, I got the panthera mvci edition from the arcade shock in Torrance and it’s so sick , even got a bi color ball for the joystick, it’s my first stick and you helped me choose it thanks man :)

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +1

      Gloomy Doomy glad you liked it, its a premium stick that will last you a long time. Now you can have a nice experience playing ❤️🙏🕹

    • @TherapySessionsTC
      @TherapySessionsTC 4 года назад +1

      Can you avoid getting scratches on the glass or is that just something that happens overtime??

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      Gloomy Doomy yea, if you use it over time , it will get scratches, unless you buy a film and layer over the whole thing and preserve it. Kinda like a screen protector for a 17 inch monitor and tape it on to it with cut out of the buttons etc, u can be creative with it 😊

  • @MrMakinCupcakes
    @MrMakinCupcakes 4 года назад +1

    I got myself the marvel vs capcom version and i was wondering if it's normal for the JLF to have a bit of neutral wobble to it?

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +1

      Yes, they all have a slight wobble to it, like you mean slight movement when you touch it? All my stick has that, its normal. As long as it doesnt affect your game play, 🕹👍🙏❤️

    • @MrMakinCupcakes
      @MrMakinCupcakes 4 года назад +1

      @@JoystickNY I really appreciate the quick reply man thank you!

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +1

      Mr. Oden anytime, when i am not sleeping, i usually reply pretty quick as i see notifications on my phone popping up 🙏👍❤️🕹 thank you for watching

  • @MrMannenson
    @MrMannenson 3 года назад

    This is a nice stick, not easy to find at least in europe.

  • @ff-mu6cc
    @ff-mu6cc 4 года назад +1

    cool!

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +1

      Jephthan Arjoon thank you for dropping by🙏👍❤️🕹

  • @joshspears3951
    @joshspears3951 4 года назад +1

    do they support for Nintendo switch and xbox ?

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      This one is not compatible with xbox or switch. This sf5 version is for ps4 ps3 and pc. But razer does make the atrox for the xbox. Check it out on their site 🙏❤️🕹 thank you for watching, good question

  • @sanchoclause007
    @sanchoclause007 4 года назад +1

    The cable can be damage easily, do you know where can I get a replacement?

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      sanchoclause007 i heard its not possible to buy a replacement, razer doesnt sell them 😭

    • @sanchoclause007
      @sanchoclause007 4 года назад +1

      @@JoystickNY thanks for your reply, I have one too but I can't use it anymore because of the cable.

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      sanchoclause007 try do a search online and see if any companies makes it now, check forums if you have time 🙏❤️

    • @ytchannel2817
      @ytchannel2817 4 года назад +1

      ​@@JoystickNY It looks like RazerCare Store online sells the cable now, can you confirm if this is correct?
      ( razercarestore.razer.com/Razer-Panthera-USB-Cable/ )
      Also, do you think the original Panthera is worth it still for around $200USD? Specifically, I was considering the Dragon Ball FighterZ Edition as my very first arcade stick.
      My main concern is the cable so I also considered the Qanba Obsidian for a similar price, but I know you mentioned in your guide video you think maybe Obsidian should cost like 25% less.
      I was wondering if you think that a (special edition) Panthera is worth it still over a similar priced Obsidian, or whether *currently* you suggest a different stick in this 'premium' price range altogether.
      Thank you very much in advance, and I look forward to your reply with consideration to my purchase.

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +1

      Jenson the panthera mvci is on sale on amazon for 109, i think that is a very good deal, the obsidian hardly goes on sale, so i would just go for the panthera for 90$ less, in terms of gameplay, its all the same, but if the obsidian is 150, i think its a good buy, and that cable looks legit, i am happy they are selling the cable. Makes them a better respectable company 👍❤️

  • @itaiitay2472
    @itaiitay2472 4 года назад +1

    my dear friend can i make it work on pc ? im gonna buy it untill the ps5 and use adapter to ps5 =]

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      itai Itay yes, it works on pc ps3 and ps4, you dont want to wait for ps5 stick? Sometimes it takes along time for an adaptor to come out

    • @itaiitay2472
      @itaiitay2472 4 года назад +1

      @@JoystickNY well ps5 will go out in November, i had a good deal of 121$ at a game store in israel. when the ps5 will go out i will just buy an external adapter (30$ top right i guess)
      i installed the razor driver witch in this link : drivers.razersupport.com/index.php?_m=downloads&_a=viewdownload&downloaditemid=2532&nav=0,349,640
      hope its gonna be plug and play.
      in the future we would like to see you taking an old stick and make it pc ps4 compatible

    • @itaiitay2472
      @itaiitay2472 4 года назад +1

      JoyStickNY hope it will come out fast

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад +1

      itai Itay thank you, that is a good idea, maybe when the ps5 comes out, i will make a video on ps4 to ps5 converter video to let people know ❤️🙏

    • @itaiitay2472
      @itaiitay2472 4 года назад +1

      JoyStickNY u the best brother

  • @andreagarcia6474
    @andreagarcia6474 Год назад

    🔥🔥🔥

  • @jessemartinez1797
    @jessemartinez1797 4 года назад

    ? Do you need firmware upgrade for lag improvements like razer panthera or is it good to go out of the box you didn't mention on the unboxing sorry you said it at the end

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      I didnt experience any lag or notice any delay during my use, i did hear there was a new firmware update from razer, i havent gotten a chance to update the stick due to my job 🙏❤️

    • @jessemartinez1797
      @jessemartinez1797 4 года назад

      @@JoystickNY thank you

    • @jessemartinez1797
      @jessemartinez1797 4 года назад

      @@JoystickNY just got my razer panthera sf5 yesterday used and came perfect condition and ordered replacement cable from china on eBay just look for razer panthera on EBay search its blue it's says evo but evo doesn't have detachable cable it gt take weeks to get here ill test it out and reply back on feedback ok

  • @FlavorFinders
    @FlavorFinders 2 года назад

    Where can I buy this now?

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  2 года назад

      I think this might be discontinued , check ebay or amazon , sometimes there is one for sale

  • @Rico-Suave
    @Rico-Suave 3 года назад

    I bought one with Dragon Ball FighterZ art on the front of it. Is it the same stick or do they differ slightly?

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  3 года назад +1

      If you bought the razer panthera, it will be 100% the same, if you buy the razer atrox, then it will be diff for the xbox.

    • @Rico-Suave
      @Rico-Suave 3 года назад

      @@JoystickNY Much appreciated. Yes it was the Panthera. Great videos. I wish you much success.

  • @-jin-3335
    @-jin-3335 3 года назад

    Hi there, am thinking of upgrading my hori. In your opinion, which stick do you think is the best?

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  3 года назад

      Which hori do you have?

    • @-jin-3335
      @-jin-3335 3 года назад

      @@JoystickNY hori mini =P but when I was on my PS3 I was using madcatz

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  3 года назад

      That makes sense, I do recommend getting a better stick, if i recall correctly, the hori mini is not moddable, and its a bit too small and light, if you do plan to get a stick, get a serious one and you wont have to upgrade it for a while. If u get a stick for the ps4 or ps5, it will probably last 5-10 yrs. or until the ps6 comes out. Technically there is no best stick, just best parts for your personal reference. Choose a price range and choose a stick design that u like. The internals are pretty much all the same.

    • @-jin-3335
      @-jin-3335 3 года назад

      @@JoystickNY yea that's why I am considering. So in your opinion what is the best? Since you have tried so many sticks. Price wise I am flexible.

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  3 года назад

      For now i would say wait, becuz new sticks are coming out, only 2 new sticks are annouced so far, i predict more to come, i ll prob have 2 reviews of 2 stick later this year too

  • @hassansharif7392
    @hassansharif7392 3 года назад

    Hi I want to buy this arcade stick but I was wondering if it's universal. Will it also work on the Xbox one? Or it's only for ps4 and pc

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  3 года назад +1

      This one is not universal, it will only work on ps3 ps4 and pc 🕹❤️🙏

    • @hassansharif7392
      @hassansharif7392 3 года назад

      @@JoystickNY thank you

  • @doaknife9161
    @doaknife9161 2 года назад

    I do want to put out there that no fight stick should cost over $100 regardless systems cost a lot of money and when your plate stick cost more than your PlayStation or console there overpriced

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  2 года назад

      I feel you, the gaming industry price def went up ,like a ps5 or xbox games are like 60-75$ these days

  • @Tiger24kicks
    @Tiger24kicks 3 года назад

    Will this stick work with the PS5

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  3 года назад

      It should, because sony says all licensed ps4 stick will work with ps5

  • @Thamenos
    @Thamenos 4 года назад

    Is that model compatible with PC Windows 10?

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      I actually havent tried my self; i should test it out that way i can tell future viewers, i mainly play ok xbox and ps4, i am going to test it out when i get a chance 🙏❤️ if you dont mind msging me on ig or fb, i can get back to you ther 🕹

    • @Thamenos
      @Thamenos 4 года назад

      @@JoystickNY thanks for the reply. I look forward for the test. Cheers!

  • @ocean2zx
    @ocean2zx 3 года назад

    Can u do mods on this stick?

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  3 года назад

      Yes, its very moddable and has alot of room for alot of lever and parts

  • @pachanga270
    @pachanga270 4 года назад

    Can i change the artwork like the normal edition please?

    • @kyoushuu_
      @kyoushuu_ 3 года назад

      You need a hair dryer I think

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  3 года назад

      Yup

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  3 года назад

      I dont recommend it, its very difficult to change the artwork on the panthera, because its not really meant to be change

  • @tazzybakes1169
    @tazzybakes1169 4 года назад

    Hi man , really enjoy your videos !!! I just have a quick question , I want to swop out levers but I'm too scared to tug on the connector on the lever base because it has resin all over it , I want to know that if I rip it out I wont damage anything , any advice please ?

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  4 года назад

      No worries, most of my sticks has resin or glue on it, its just there so the parts dont get loose, is okay to peel those off, most of my stick doesnt have it after i mess with it. I think its also a prevention so people dont mess with it and then return it,

    • @tazzybakes1169
      @tazzybakes1169 4 года назад

      @@JoystickNY hey man , I just wanted to thank you , I wiggled it a bit then saw the resin dislodged a bit then just lucked it off , thanks for you time and all your awesome vids !!!!

  • @ghhg228
    @ghhg228 3 года назад

    does it work on pc ?

    • @JoystickNY
      @JoystickNY  3 года назад +1

      Yup pc ps4 and ps3👍😊

    • @ghhg228
      @ghhg228 3 года назад

      @@JoystickNY thanks for the answer :)

  • @TheRealDustinNunn
    @TheRealDustinNunn 4 года назад +1

    I would avoid the SF5, Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite and DBFZ Razer Atrox/Panthera arcade sticks because they do not come with spare bat-tops inside of them. I would also avoid the EVO version of the Razer Panthera because the EVO Panthera is impossible to modify.

    • @gagelehr7568
      @gagelehr7568 4 года назад +1

      My SFV Panthera came with a bat top. Even if it didn't, it's $5 for a good bat top. Not exactly a good reason to not get a great stick.