The NEW Nvidia GTX TITAN X PCB breakdown + voltage and power mods
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"I don't think anybody who watches my channel will buy one of these"
No, but by making this video you made someone who bought one of these watch your channel :)
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I subbed way after I bought this, but I'm glad that he did this since I loved his vids. Really happy he made one for this card :)
I appreciate your videos. Don't always know what you're talking about as its not my forte however you do a pretty good job of explaining it.
I'm glad you're doing the pcb reviews for these high end cards. Please don't stop, I'm very curious how the Vega cards will be built.
Its somehow relaxing to watch a PCB VRMs breakdown :DD Greetings from CZ ;)
I put the Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut on only the first resistor. I kept the clock offset at +283, while running heaven the card ran at 2138 with a voltage of 1.075. After the mod the card ran at 2151 with a voltage of 1.093. I ran User Benchmark and hit a max clock of 2202. Thinking about ripping the card back out and doing the second resistor. I am running a EVGA hybrid kit on the card with push/pull on the rad. Great video, it was a nice little project for me.
@20:37: 1.4v - you definitely need epower, 1.3v - wouldn't trust this vrm, 1.25v - feeling pretty sketchy about it, 1.2v - it *should* handle fine, 1.1-15v - i think you'll be safe
Never heard such a detailed description of mostly unsafe modes of operation,thumbs up :)
I might have to lower those numbers. I just had a chat with a pro overclcoker who has a TITAN XP and it just pounds Nvidia's stock power limit. The core is being held back some seriously thick chains to protect the PCB that it's sitting on.
9:34 That comment is gold. $1200 for a shitty VRM welcome to NV Founders Edition. #Hardware2016
I opened mine up and all the components spoken of here including some additionals have high quality thermal pads on them and sink with the baseplate which in turn gets cooled by the aircooler of the card.
can we have a 295x2 vid? Just curious how double chip card works
Would you be able to do a GTX 1070 FTW? Or a 1080 FTW/Classified
I found you on Gamers Nexus and I'm really happy I did, these videos are really interesting
16:48 toward the bottom left of the pcb what is the one of two parts labeled 0503 and 0504. Specifically 0504 fired on a friends gpu. Here is the LTT forum link with picture linustechtips.com/main/topic/716622-titan-xp-fried/
those are Q503 and Q504(the Q indicates that these a transistors). I would recommend trying an RMA before trying to fix it yourself.
0:45 music to my ears... I always keep at least one class C fire extinguisher by my test bench, and Nvida refuses to refund even a portion of the $1200 I paid for a Titan Xp (only offers RMA after 30 days), and they have horrible drivers, so I can't fix that, and I'll keep sending dead Titans to them until they refund my money (or I'll have a wall of pictures from the dozens of ways I'll set fire to them, I may charge them for fire extinguishers). Might as well practice LN2 overclocking on something garbage, like a Titan!
lol, that explains why the dude who commented on my comment about the 1080 power mod went all mad when he "almost destroyed his card" xD
yes that's the "got very stressed" guy I was referring to.
When is the Titan XP OC stream going to happen? :P
BTW Gamers Nexus mentioned you on their RX 470 Tear down video, and said that you can explain the 480 and 470 difference.
Better show up there and leave a hint for a future video ;)
When Nvidia sends one. :P
@Actually Hardcore Overclocking
The card can do 2100Mhz on Water/Air. is crazy.
Yeah I saw Marc0053's TITAN X stream yesterday. The card will go over 2Ghz easily with water cooling but it needs power mods to sustain the speeds for a decent amount of time.
+Actually Hardcore Overclocking err, mine wants to boost to 1855MHz on its own without me changing the clock so I'm worried but my card is probably designed to run like that if it comes stock.
That's just how Nvidia cards work. They write 1 speed on the box and IRL the cards run well above it.
My card wants run at base clock a lot though or boost when it doesn't need to. But I'm unsure if thats driver related seen as it's a new card. F1 2011, max settings vysnc 1080p it will go to 1408 and in a very low intensive game like Roblox it will do the same when it really doesn't need to. I have an I7 4790K CPU and 16GB 2400Mhz RAM so no bottle necks either
It runs faster in Roblox because running Roblox is easier and so the Boost algorithm is fed lower power and temps and so it see that it can raise the clocks more.
Is Nvidia putting highly binned GPUs in their FFS or are they somehow limiting AIB partners in terms of VCC?
are all TITAN X's the same? i noticed most have the same cooler. but EVGA appears to have a custom design.
Would love to see you do one for the R7 370
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Hi Buildzoid, I'm helping a friend overclock two Titan Xp's on sub zero temps and running into problems when going below -5 degrees C. Below -5 the V/F curve switches automatically to a "safe profile" which limits voltage and can bring it down to 1.075 or even 1.02. In the end, just trying to speed up to 2200ghz or higher while keeping temps low like everything else. Do you know where the temp sensor is on the board (assuming inside the GPU chip)? And would you know how to bypass it, short it, or maybe even insulate it? Or do you have any other suggestions? Thanks
actually im down to use some of your ideas
i actually got 4, waiting on a world class overclocker to hook me up with his mods
Lol, world class?
Well, guess I'm world class, because I can do that shit in my sleep.
Hi how are you?. I have a liquid damaged 1080 TI and i need the IC model number of the VRM on the left, the one that you said that you don´t know anything about. I greatly appreciate any help you can give me on this matter as i have searched the entire internet and no info i found whatsoever about this IC. I know is some kind of VRM, but i dont know the IC marking on it, mine got destroyed.
Thank you for any help you can give me in advance. Thumbs up
Say if a BIOS tweaker does come out for Pascal... What would you recommend going to if I have an EK waterblock? (Above 1.093v and 120% power limit of course seen as I can only go to 1860MHz DUE to being limited on power on my TITAN XP).
So it's like the 1080 PCB but not as gimped?
A 480 Pcb with the core is as expensive or more as an 1080.... But nvidia charges 400$ extra For the huge E-penis you get.. Consumer friendy? Nah, Its all about how much you can scam ur Fanboys... Nvidia makes a living with that ~20% Increase each gen.
it's actually pretty different. The 1080 is a 6 phase with only 5 phases in place. This is an 8 phase.
nvidia still do more research and dev witch cost money, and the 10 series rape amd 4 serie so ya it cost more . you re just mad cause you cant afford it
Quit lying, i OWN this card and it EASILY hits 60fps in the witcher 3 at 4K Ultra with STOCK 1,400mhz speed! Mine overclocks to 2,025mhz and ends up with over *70fps* on Witcher 3 Ultra 4K. And you are seriously looking stupid as hell here calling The Witcher 3 an "old game" lol. It just came out a year ago genius! And it's still basically THE most demanding game out there bar unoptimized crappy messes like Assasin's Creed. I've tested over a DOZEN modern AAA titles from the last year or so and they ALL achieve well over 60fps at 4K with all ultra settings. DOOM with Nightmare settings? More like 80fps. The Division? ~68fps average. I can continue on and on with games like Total War: Warhammer, Far Cry Primal, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Just Cause 3, etc..etc..etc.. they ALL get around 60fps at STOCK speed and once overclocked it proceeds to get WELL over 60fps heading into averages of 70fps or higher! www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/nvidia_geforce_titan_x_pascal_review,36.html
@TheScaleless Id just like to point out that the new Titan X stock speed is really about 1850MHz. The cards boost to that completely stock out of the box.
Do you know what mosfets does the GTX Titan(the old one) use and where can I find new ones?
Hi buildzoid can i discuss something with you?
Hey I watch your channel and I bought one of these :P
Lol. I am taking my heatsink off tonight, do you want me to get good, closeup pics of the PCB for you to see all the part numbers of stuff in the VRM and all that?
TBH without being able to stab the card with a DMM I still can't ID more stuff from a photo. It would be cool if you could confirm that the MOSFETs have 4C85N written on them. You will probably need good lighting and magnification to do that.
ok Ill confirm that for you tonight. I also am going to check resistance from pin 1 of the voltage controller cause I will probably want to play around with voltage. Kinda depends though as like you said, the VRM isnt the greatest for raising voltage and it really depends how well I can keep it cooled, which I am going to check tonight what the running temps are too and how well the VRM responds to a fan on the backside of the section. Hopefully AquaComputer makes another active VRM cooled backplate for the Titan XP as Id love to just stick that thing on it to make sure it stays at a safe temp.
+Actually Hardcore Overclocking Ok so got halfway through taking the heatsink off and found 4 screws screws that are just absolutely tiny. More so that even the tiny ones on the back of the card. So have to finish taking it apart tomorrow whwn I can get an even smaller screwdriver.
Pin 1 of the voltage controller reads 3.0209 kohms though. Obviously margin of error in there but I do have a fairly accurate dmm so it should be somewhat close.
In that case a 30K ohm resistor will give you about 10% more volts.
+Actually Hardcore Overclocking 30 kohm is 10x as much resistance right? So wouldn't that give 10x as much voltage? Im not great at electronics calculations but I kinda figured a resistor with 10% more ohms (which would be 3.3kohm) would give me 10% more voltage.
What do you think how much could i overclock gtx 1060 3gb Palit Dual fan with stock cooler
I have Two i plan on modding Ek water blocks
Yo, do you know what the values of the SMD capasitors around the prosessor ? HELP 🙏
So it needs an E-power for any real OC, guess that is "High performance engineering for maximum overclocking" for Nvidia as they advertised =D
same as all the previous TITANs
no this one ALOT faster.... it is crazy fast. well worth it if you can afford.
overclock it to 110% for more stability is know it sounds weird but thats way it made.
I meant same as in needing an E-power not performance wise
No, it doesn't need an E-power board for a "real OC". Mine hits a massive overclock of 2,025mhz easily on the standard reference blower cooler. That's already an increase of *600mhz* over stock speed! And using an EVGA "hybrid" cooler i was able to hit 2,075mhz no problem. All of this is with NO voltage or Bios modding etc.. either. I also had the memory overclocked to 11,000mhz giving it a 528GB/s bandwidth, which is even more than the bandwidth of the HBM on like the Fury-X has (512GB/s). WIth a proper waterblock you can easily get 2,100mhz out of these without even touching voltage and Bios mods. So nice try but your baseless fanboyism doesn't work when there are facts in the way. So far i've only managed to do a hybrid cooler, tried rigging a Maxwell TITAN X waterblock to it without much luck (different board layout makes bad contact), and a friend of mine is in the process of tweaking one of these with a single phase, phase change cooler. He's hitting a bit over 2,2000mhz on it so far...still no e-power board.
let's see bout jayztwocents OC when that dude insert SLI on 'it's" skunkworks rig.
Don't need to know much that the VRMs on these 10 series cards are near cancer levels and Nvidia got too cheap. Once the warranty expires of many of these cards the complaints will probably flood in as they start or brick. One dual mode mosfet per phase is suicide and designed to fail.
Why is there so many unpopulated ICs, mosfets or capacitors on this card ?
It's mostly MOSFETs that got left out. A single 4C85N is 1.085$. So Nvidia saved about 8$ in components on this PCB by not including them. Kinda sucks to know that you are paying 1200$ for a card that got down costed by 8$ because of Nvidia's profits. The other big missing things are IC mounts but those look like they were used for some alternative voltage controllers that Nvidia decided to scrap.
Is there no low side mosfets on this VRM setup ? Are they both (high and low side) on the same package ?
Yeah they're both in the 4C85Ns.
That's what happens if there is no competition ... and a huge % of users don't OC
I'm interested now. Anyone know something to that... I haven't found anything on this topic:
It is well known that the GTX 970 has he 512mb vram issue... but also it is a GTX 980 Chip with disabled (384) Cuda cores....
would anyone know if flashing a GTX 980 BIOS on this Card (I have the 980 BIOS for this pcb cause its the same on both 970 and 980) would activate these 384 disabled CUDA cores in the 3SMM blocks?? I'm just curious if they just disable it by BIOS or do they deactivate them in another way? Any information WILL be appreciated for my curiousity.
They're laser cut.
Okey :( at least I know now and I won't brick my card with flashing a 980 Bios, lol!
any Video in german vor titan x ?
I can't touch your single fury graphics score on HWBot even though I'm running nearly the same clocks, does that really come from optimized Win7 install?
The card is unlocked to 3840 cores and HWbot allows disabling tesselation in the driver. That's probably most of my efficiency on that score. The big diff with a good windows install is the physics score. I can outscore a 5GHz 5960X on vanilla win10 with my 5960X at 4.9 as long as I have a proper win 7 install.
mine is unlocked as well and I have disabled tesselation, I am 500 graphics score behind with same clocks. I think I'll have to try optimized win7 install, as it looks that Combined Score is also heavily impacted by stuff running in background
yeah physics and combined are CPU bound with the Fury and Fury X cards so windows has a pretty large impact on them.
Curious. Can you just edit the BIOS to increase the powerlimit like the previous cards?
no idea I never looked into the software side of Nvidia GPUs too much.
Actually Hardcore Overclocking Oh I see ok. I don't know about Pascal but I modified my old 750ti to 200W powerlimit. That didn't end well though
Southeastern777 Hey same I saw on Gamer Nexus too hahah
Yes, but the ability to mod the BIOS doesn't exist yet.
3 months, we're still waiting.
***** Oh right
I wanna see someone put this on LN2 and burn it up... People kill iPhones and Macbooks all the time, why can't we see a $1200 card go boom?
I'll be destroying several Titan Xp cards on my channel "Legit_Overclocking", first on sub-zero phase (should be enough to burn them), and then LN2 later. I already have GPU insulation ready and cut out from the last card my cooler destroyed, so let the destruction begin!
so what water block is compatible with this ?
EK has released waterblocks for the card. You can also use one of the universal core only waterblocks.
+Actually Hardcore Overclocking tnx,,, but vram matters too.
Ashmeed Mohammed
There are tons of ways to solve that/ From VRAM heatsinks to chopping up the heatsink baseplate.
Will the EK blocks be sufficient cooling for the VRM's?
should be. I never tested the performance of EK full cover blocks since they are far too expensive for me and I can't re-use them like I do with the universal blocks.
Thanks!
Yes they are great at cooling everything really. On my old Maxwell TITAN X's i had, i could hit around 1,450mhz on each, and raise memory by around ~250mhz or so. Even with a bit of volt modding 1,475mhz & +300mhz memory was about my limit, and the temps on the VRM and VRAM chips were quite high. After using the EK FC-TITANX CSQ waterblock i never had my VRM raise over ~50C, and the core temps never passed the low 40's or so; despite having a 1,535mhz core overclock and +500mhz memory on them both.
inb4 it's crap.
do a PCB breakdown on a reference GTX 980 TI
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Do subscribe.. LOL..Watch.. he goes to buy 2 titan x pascals for SLI , XD.
Nvidia's PCBs are utter trash
I had a GTX 550Ti and I loved that card so I am not a fanboi.
Hence why I have seen and had a lot of Nvidia cards die on me. I wonder how many people know that Nvidia's GTX 1080 only costs $110 to produce, including packaging and labor? The actual gpu chip costs $44 and some change. The PCB costs $10. Talk about making huge profits and ripping people off, which is why I quit Nvidia. I'd rather lose 10-20 fps on some games using AMD than to give Nvidia money. Just imagine how much we would be paying if AMD wasn't making cards, you would be paying double the price with no competition. Think about it, people are paying almost $700 for the 1080, it's a tiny little card, with less circuity and technology than what your motherboard and cpu have, yet costs more than those components combined.
/r/AyyMD
KEK, Even though I am a dank user there, I am not a fanboi. Both Nvidia and AMD have their issues but I hate Nvidia currently for their very anti-consumer practices.
You have to count in RND costs too m8
Hahaha :D Nvidia ripoff.