VRM analysis: Zotac GTX 1080Ti AMP Extreme // more phases is not necessarily more better

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  • Опубликовано: 27 окт 2024

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  • @cultofsogga5863
    @cultofsogga5863 5 лет назад +1

    I made diy VRM heatsink!
    Pictures:
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    ibb.co/dc4HBQB

  • @Fizzacles
    @Fizzacles 7 лет назад +11

    This. This is why Zotac in europe is one of the budget brands along with Palit, Manli, Inno3D and others. Their cards can literally cost up to 100 euros less for a 1080/1080Ti.

    • @filip-pi9hy
      @filip-pi9hy 7 лет назад +1

      Fizzacles did have inno3d gtx 1060x3 and it run 2100mhz ezzy at 60c

    • @2boostedsilverado
      @2boostedsilverado 7 лет назад +1

      filip sebalj the top you go the less OC you can achieve. 1060 average get away with 2130mhz, 1070-2100mhz, 1080-2080mhz, 1080ti-1025mhz. Granted lottery and cooling factor in but this is a general guide for 3rd party cards of air cooled system.

  • @bernrudolph2422
    @bernrudolph2422 7 лет назад +46

    They should rename it Zotac GTX 1080Ti AMP Extreme Marketing Edition, eh?

  • @ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
    @ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking  7 лет назад +84

    Tell me you missed me?

  • @yongkangma5537
    @yongkangma5537 7 лет назад +1

    Extremely informative video! Keep up the awesome work man!

  • @DerFledderer
    @DerFledderer 7 лет назад +6

    Ok, so I learnt something today. the phase count doesn't matter, but the quality of the phases does indeed.
    I think that means that you will need to review a lot of VRM in the future. 😈

    • @ODIOPOWER
      @ODIOPOWER 7 лет назад +1

      and that is why a basic FE 1080ti is on par with all the AIB, just the HoF and the KingPin are just a step above.

    • @ODIOPOWER
      @ODIOPOWER 7 лет назад +1

      i mean, because the FE is well build. Just the cooler is weak. My FE is rock solid at 2080/5960 on water

    • @mechragone
      @mechragone 7 лет назад

      ODIO POWER And the lightning too.

  • @MadMexism
    @MadMexism 7 лет назад +7

    My Zotac AMP EXTREME 980ti is pretty damn descent. not gonna go with this one when i get my 1080ti. Thinking Asus strix, or FE model.

  • @frankunderwood8357
    @frankunderwood8357 7 лет назад +7

    So is there any drop in replacement mosfets and drivers that can be solidered on to the card insted of the original ones? That would be a cool project and make a hell of a card if it is possible.

    • @AssassinWarlord
      @AssassinWarlord 3 года назад

      It will only ~10w less Power consuming with switching frequency adjustment - so the card have then the same VRM efficiency as founders edition

  • @indifferenceofficial4060
    @indifferenceofficial4060 7 лет назад +2

    It's still a super card when it comes to cooling and tbf like you said all nvidia cards only clock so high. The tiny 25-50mhz you may lose is worth the silence for the vast amount of people who will grab any of the amp ex cards on the market. Would i buy again? Yes every day of the week. Not much comes close to this cooler even knowing the pcb is meh at best.

  • @dhlehrenlos
    @dhlehrenlos 7 лет назад

    No joke i actually looked for the review this morning, only saw the GN review where steve talking about how you cant get data sheets and wanted to message you if you had any update on that ^^

  • @lazerusmfh
    @lazerusmfh 7 лет назад +6

    I have this card, I modified it because the VRM heatsink isn't great... that being said I'm at 2025mhz core, 12200mhz mem currently.. vrm gets to 85 - 90C now

    • @jamie96129
      @jamie96129 7 лет назад +2

      I also have this card, 2025 core, but my mem sucks 5850mhz

    • @ArtisChronicles
      @ArtisChronicles 7 лет назад +1

      jonny j he said he modified it and now the vrm gets that temp. Suggesting that previously the vrms ran hotter. I can't confirm this myself, but he can if that is the case. Otherwise, yeah I know that's pretty normal.

    • @lazerusmfh
      @lazerusmfh 7 лет назад +2

      Hi guys. Yes, i modded the vrm heatsink to contact the main heatsink with thermal conductive tape, this is what brought the VRM temps down into "Sane" Ranges. I also thermal epoxied a thermister to the vrm and routed it to the motherboard to control some fans, and be able to do some logging. :) The card pulls like 400W.. My card is power limit modded, etc... :)

    • @sanchitmishratechnogeek
      @sanchitmishratechnogeek 7 лет назад +1

      i have the same card as well but 2079mhz core, 5599mhz mem. card runs cool though stays under 70c always, do I really need to modify it for having vrm's cool , any thermistors under $20?

    • @Tengaeggs
      @Tengaeggs 7 лет назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/ffzaxr9-yLQ/видео.html

  • @alexconstantin7022
    @alexconstantin7022 7 лет назад +1

    REALLY GOOOD VIDS man!!! gg btw can I ask u if can make one for EVGA FTW 3 hybrid???I just got one and is just soooo nice !!! but I would love some of your explanations :D

  • @wakesake
    @wakesake 7 лет назад +1

    Please do VRM analysis on Asus Matrix HD7970/280x

  • @chrisdash83
    @chrisdash83 7 лет назад +3

    So those Aluminum Caps are basically a timebomb on the backside of the card? Will it still work once they fail?

    • @whitenoiserevived6575
      @whitenoiserevived6575 6 лет назад

      chrisdash83 properly or properly not since if electronics short it might cause a surge on other components.

  • @JoonilOh
    @JoonilOh 5 лет назад

    Wait. So GN's teardown shows that the missing vram chip on these cards is a different slot than other 1080 Ti's, yet this image shows the same chip missing as the other 1080 Ti's. Where the heck did this image come from?

  • @quickz187
    @quickz187 7 лет назад +1

    I'm sure they would of added a third 8-pin if they had the room.

  • @lazerusmfh
    @lazerusmfh 7 лет назад

    @buildzoid -- Will you provide info for the modified power tables for V56? i managed to have bought one, and it will be here tomorrow and look forward to playing with it.

  • @onurberksunal8996
    @onurberksunal8996 7 лет назад +1

    Uhm noone talked about what is usb port thats at the top left what does that used for?

  • @knooters
    @knooters 2 года назад

    Maybe this is a bit late, but I have a card where a chip blew up. Unfortunately, it's one that's not covered in this video. it's one of the four small ones marked M3003M between the single capacitor on the far right and the two 8 pin connectors. Any idea what these are for?

  • @carscarscars186
    @carscarscars186 3 года назад

    Can you please help me out. I have this card and one of Vcore mosfets shorted to ground (top right one in the right group close to the edge, probably together with the one below it as well). I desoldered both and ordered a replacement but now I'm wondering if the GPU could survive this. Any ideas? Is there any way to check before new mosfets arrive?

  • @BratislavMetulskie
    @BratislavMetulskie 7 лет назад +1

    why are you sure it's not 150khz

  • @JoeyDelp
    @JoeyDelp 7 лет назад +1

    Hey buildzoid what do you rate would happen if say you happen upon another 1gb GDDR5x chip and you heat solder it on in the open spot on the board for a total of 12gb. Do you think the it would boot? do you think the 1080ti bios would allow it or even understand what is going on? or quite possibly just load up fine and then be a 1080ti with 12gb?

  • @mariopic
    @mariopic 3 года назад

    if u where rebuilding the vcore on this what vrm of same package whould u use yo replace low and high side
    got zotac 1080ti vrm died planing on rebuilding it looking for ur input on what i can replace then with to mske it better

  • @niko9124
    @niko9124 7 лет назад

    Hey Buildzoid mate, I don`t know really what to do , but I ordered twice your shirt just because i wanted to donate , cause your incredibly the best one, but Teespring is obviously not able to distribute it ... ups , is all they mailed me, so what should i do?

  • @sarmero8958
    @sarmero8958 6 лет назад

    Hi, man, great video
    Assuming I add thermal pads so the VRM heatsink touches the main heatsink, shoul I still be worried about VRM thermals and life expentancy??

  • @yiannisspanos694
    @yiannisspanos694 7 лет назад

    @Actually Hardcore Overclocking I am looking for a GTX 1080TI. I want to have if for a long time, so I wont be overclocking. Should I go for the cheapest one I can find, should I go for a good one like the strix, or a founders and when I have enough money watercool it? I kinda care about aesthetics but I mainly care about reliability.

  • @parasecglenkwyst4835
    @parasecglenkwyst4835 7 лет назад

    Why do xustom PCB's with 11GB VRAM still have a "seating" for an additional RAM Module?

  • @jota123jot
    @jota123jot 7 лет назад

    Is the new asus 350f strix good for oc a 1700 is the vrm gonna get really hot over 120? Or should i stick to the 1600 on that board. Please respond mate really need some input already read everything else. Also the gygabite x370 k5 is the same price for me now. Should i get it? It has the same vrm has the gaming 3 and people say it over heats. thx for the help anyway.

  • @TheJonazas
    @TheJonazas 7 лет назад

    Awesome! I have this card and are very tempted to sell it cause of the shitty cooling solution, but i guess it doesn't really matter how hot it is cause they made it like that.

  • @ThePipinFonz
    @ThePipinFonz 3 года назад

    Where would I find the data sheets to this card?

  • @dtbone6
    @dtbone6 6 лет назад

    I knew it was a weak card, but it was at a good price when I bought it.. over $150 msrp ....Now a ti of any kind cost over a grand...so Im cool with it.

  • @sniperpronerfmods9811
    @sniperpronerfmods9811 7 лет назад

    I have a asus x370 prime MoBo (i got it for 40 usd) and doesn't it use the same vrm as the crosshair excpet with 2 less phase, I can take a picture and send it to you too, Also I have a xfx rs rx 480 and I did one time spy run at 1401mhz on core and 2010 on mem, after that I tried to go higher on the mem and now if I touch the mem clock or core it trashes, any idea

  • @pesokpesok
    @pesokpesok 6 лет назад

    is it true that zotac 1080 Ti amp has the same exact pcb as amp extreme? was thinking of picking one of them and installing waterblock - since i wont need extremes huge cooler should i spend more to go for extreme?

  • @abhilashthomas7158
    @abhilashthomas7158 4 года назад

    Could some one tell me about the inductor & capacitor circuit on the left side of the card near the golden DP connector?

  • @RocketFoxProductions
    @RocketFoxProductions 7 лет назад

    So, i've got the zotac Arcticstorm, which is essentially the AMP! extreme with a fullcover waterblock already on.
    Are these VRM's actually going to affect performance or overclocking capability much with a waterblock installed?
    I cant view VRM temps on this card but my card gets to 2100mhz in tests and games

    • @Artcore103
      @Artcore103 7 лет назад

      you've answered our own question noob, 2100mhz is incredibly good, most cards can't hit that of any brand or model.

  • @alt4119
    @alt4119 7 лет назад

    I just bought a Asus Strix 980 ti with 12+2 phase, I 'm curious about the cards efficiency...

    • @jakirmahmood3425
      @jakirmahmood3425 7 лет назад

      Asus 980tis were voltage locked most of the cases. I had 2 in SLI and both of these couldn't oc above 10MHz over the out of box 1443MHz OC (+243 over Stock). Then Iwent through hassle of warranty after using them for 1.5 years. Guess what? the new 2 products had similar issues with voltage lock. you will find infos related to voltage lock issue (with weird bios) in guru3d, ocn and asus's own rog forum.

  • @DisamerdScroll
    @DisamerdScroll 7 лет назад +1

    Did u have RX Vega? if yes are gonna do a PCB breakdown?

    • @DisamerdScroll
      @DisamerdScroll 7 лет назад +1

      hmn wasnt sure it was the same, thx

    • @Jaymiecain1
      @Jaymiecain1 7 лет назад +3

      I'll save you the trouble. VRM is gurd.

    • @SRTChrisS1
      @SRTChrisS1 7 лет назад

      what even is "gurd"? lol

    • @Jaymiecain1
      @Jaymiecain1 7 лет назад +6

      Good, obviously...AMD bought the components for Vega in bulk, to reduce cost (Cheaper to use the same PCB and parts then redesign). So the FE, 64 and 56 use the same parts for almost everything, if not everything. So you're getting the components of a $1000 GPU in a $400 GPU. Same VRM, same controllers, L shape VRM, 12 phase. Basically it's very, very good.

    • @ArtisChronicles
      @ArtisChronicles 7 лет назад

      Jaymiecain1 sounds like the poster child for water cooling and more extreme forms of cooling.

  • @thejung-raioperatorstactic8306
    @thejung-raioperatorstactic8306 4 года назад

    i use this one nowaday i can't run properly with stock clock
    i have to low the damn MEM and CORE clock below stock, if not im gonna get ARTIFACT and Random Crash
    such an idiot.
    my question is how can i diag by myself where's the problem came from ?

    • @metradawn8071
      @metradawn8071 2 года назад

      Hey man, what mem and core clocks are you using? I bought one used last year and the stock bios tries to push the core clock to 2025mhz which crashes the GPU instantly. I flashed an EVGA bios which had lower stock clocks and went from there. I tweaked the core a bit and it was able to run 2000mhz at 1.025, mem was stuck at 5500mhz, any higher crashes it. The GPU is prob degraded from the high volt/clock with the stock bios during the previous owner's use.

  • @shshankking
    @shshankking 5 лет назад

    The only reason i buy zotac, is their warranty service is best in my country. And for 5 years of warranty, we can upgrade for free, very easily.. By the end of this year, I would be able to procure 2080ti amp extreme.. else, Asus and Gigabyte/Aorus are best as a card, but very bad after sale service.

  • @cataria3903
    @cataria3903 7 лет назад +1

    hm i'm a bit confused here, u're saying the 1080 ti reference design is better than this zotac design and show watts at certain amps, basically showing that the zotac vrm is crap, especially as a 16 phase, but at the vega frontier edition vrm breakdown u say, that the vega vrm is amazing and the best shit ever for a reference design, but it produces the same heat or more than the zotac or 1080ti reference design.
    so i'm confused, is the vega vrm design not that great and worse than the 1080 ti design? and thus is not the best reference design ever?
    also u are going with 1.2 volts to the vcore on the vega card, which should be more efficent than the 1.1 volts on this card i believe, which would make the vega vrm seem even worse.

    • @subrotoxing8214
      @subrotoxing8214 7 лет назад

      core temp is not everything if you check out gamersnexus review on 1080ti amp extreme they found the vrm area temp on zotac hits 95c despite very cool 65c core temp.

    • @cataria3903
      @cataria3903 7 лет назад

      hm? but i never mentioned core temp, i was purely talking about vrm efficency/heat output on those 3 cards.

    • @ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
      @ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking  7 лет назад +8

      Funny story that. I recently found that my discrete mosfet claculator has a massive glitch. On the fixed version the VEGA VRM does 1.2V 300A with 29W 10Vgs or 300A 35W on 5Vgs(also the VEGA VRM favours 1.1V over 1.2V). For comparison on the buggy version the Zotac was doing 300A on 65W or something insane like that(which is how I realized there is a problem).
      Also the VEGA VRM on 1.2V 200A 5VGs does it with 17W of heat loss and on 10Vgs 200A is 15W of heat loss.

    • @cataria3903
      @cataria3903 7 лет назад +2

      so vega is still the best reference vrm ever, good to know, well in case aftermarket cards reuse the vega vrm of course.
      could u ask steve to throw annotations on the vega fe video and the other videos, where the bug changed the results on gn's and your vids? so not to make a new video, but just to have the right values there, to compare and stuff please.

  • @cristianguerra3570
    @cristianguerra3570 7 лет назад

    What is the best 1080Ti for under $800? I want to add it to my loop and overclock it.

    • @Hansjoachimurst
      @Hansjoachimurst 7 лет назад +1

      MSI Armor if you mean water cooling by "loop"

    • @cristianguerra3570
      @cristianguerra3570 7 лет назад

      ty and yes i meant to say custom water cooling loop :p

  • @Leogos281
    @Leogos281 Год назад

    Now after 5 years these cards imo have proven quite bad compared to rog strix and probably the rest as well, most of Zotac Amp Extreme 1080 tis ended up having memory clock issues where only fix was downclocking, its crazy how widespread it is.
    Didn't have this issue on any rog strix models but overall very disappointed by Zotac and will probably avoid it...

  • @atos94
    @atos94 6 лет назад

    Is this the same for the 1080 Amp extreme?

  • @Haos666
    @Haos666 7 лет назад

    Why!!!??
    Their 1070/1080 PCB design was great.

  • @WereCatStudio
    @WereCatStudio 7 лет назад

    Can I do shunt mod with aluminium foil instead of liquid metal?

    • @ArtisChronicles
      @ArtisChronicles 7 лет назад

      Wyrdak I'm not sure, just be careful if you're gonna try that. Stuff bends super easy.

    • @josephf151
      @josephf151 7 лет назад

      The resistance of it will be too low most likely. It would be an effective dead short. I would not even try it.

    • @WereCatStudio
      @WereCatStudio 7 лет назад

      That's what I am afraid of. I have seen some people claim they did it and it worked but no proof of that.

  • @monkeystealhead
    @monkeystealhead 7 лет назад

    Hi one question on MSI Aero 1060.
    Would you connect the MOSFET cooler with the big cooler with a Termal pad or not?
    Here is the best review i found aboud it.
    www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1060_aero_itx_review,4.html
    3dnews.ru/951529
    Thx for your time
    By the way. I don't want to OC (my target is lower powerloss) And better temps for a longer live.

  • @jetcity7156
    @jetcity7156 7 лет назад

    If I were buying this amp extreme, it would have been for looks. Instead, I bought a founders and water blocked it. Truth is, I bought it first week it was out, couldn't wait for custom pcb's to come out.
    I got lucky, even on air, could hit 2076MHZ and 12,000MHZ, with the fan at 100%. Water only got me to 2088mhz. I wonder if my 7yr old psu is holding it back? It is a X650 seasonic.

    • @Artcore103
      @Artcore103 7 лет назад +1

      It's not, but simply consider that because you have water cooling, your card will last longer and be able to hold those clocks hopefully for years, whereas if you were running 80-90 degrees, the card may run 2076 in the beginning but would likely degrade relatively quickly and your max OC would drop over time, so the water is still a great benefit to you - it's quieter, cooler, and thus will last longer and hold the clocks better - more stable clocks now, and they'll last for a while.

    • @jetcity7156
      @jetcity7156 7 лет назад

      Thanks

  • @kwokstung139
    @kwokstung139 7 лет назад

    WTF!!!?
    Just read the interim report of PC Partner (holding company of Zotac), the company is making such a low profit margin I thought they must have putting the best component in their product. Really, how the fuck does it work.

  • @froggle611
    @froggle611 7 лет назад

    Haha, you need a bad VRM playlist!

  • @anderson_luiz
    @anderson_luiz 7 лет назад

    I think u should change the title to "more good".

  • @takpak1
    @takpak1 7 лет назад

    no sound.,......

  • @ColonelKlinck
    @ColonelKlinck 5 лет назад

    This PCB looks different to nearly every other 1080ti Amp Ext review I've seen. I have the ti Amp and it matches the other ti Amp Ext PCB pics. img.purch.com/zotac-gtx-1080-ti-amp-extreme-edition/o/aHR0cDovL21lZGlhLmJlc3RvZm1pY3JvLmNvbS9VLzgvNjczNzEyL29yaWdpbmFsL1pvdGFjLUdUWC0xMDgwLUFNUC1FeHRyZW1lLVBDQkEtTmFrZWQtRnJvbnQuanBn

  • @Startekselva
    @Startekselva 5 лет назад

    I own two cards of this card

  • @Brian-el4ez
    @Brian-el4ez 7 лет назад +2

    If anyone has the Asus Crosshair VI Extreme, can you send a pic to buildzoid, I might build a system with one, if so I'll make sure to send a pic buildzoid's way.

  • @Mickulty
    @Mickulty 7 лет назад +2

    third

  • @sudd3660
    @sudd3660 7 лет назад

    hi girls, whats up

  • @ssxxxxss
    @ssxxxxss 7 лет назад

    Question Question, Can you do the " GeForce GTX 1080 Ti iChill X3 Ultra " it's being sold with the tag "More bandwidth than a regular Ti" so I hope you can confirm it or soo, I love to here about it.