Friedman Dirty Shirley | Amp vs. Pedal vs. BE-OD | Strat & Les Paul | Demo
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
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The new Friedman Dirty Shirley Overdrive is finally here! We took the real Dirty Shirley Combo and the good old BE-OD drive and went for the ultimate comparison: Singlecoils, Humbuckers, all the tones!
Interesting bits and pieces:
0:57 Introduction
1:46 Setup for today
3:12 Part 1: Singlecoils: Fender Roadworn 60 Stratocaster
3:34 Stratocaster | Mid Gain | Playing Amp
4:29 Stratocaster | Mid Gain | Playing Pedal
5:28 Stratocaster | Mid Gain | Talking
6:29 Stratocaster | Low Gain | Playing Pedal
7:18 Stratocaster | Low Gain | Playing Amp
7:54 Stratocaster | Low Gain | Talking
8:46 Part 2: Humbucker: Gibson Les Paul Standard T 2016
9:04 Les Paul | Low Gain | Playing Amp
10:14 Les Paul | Low Gain | Playing Pedal
11:52 Les Paul | High Gain | Playing Amp
12:57 Les Paul | High Gain | Playing Pedal
13:23 Les Paul | High Gain | Talking
14:06 Les Paul | High Gain | Playing Pedal Full Gain
15:18 Part 3: Dirty Shirley Pedal vs BE-OD
15:52 Friedman Dirty Shirley vs. Friedman BE-OD | Playing
17:11 Friedman Dirty Shirley vs. Friedman BE-OD | Talking
18:46 Same lick with Combo, Dirty Shirley OD and BE-OD | Playing Humbucker High Gain
19:38 Same lick with Combo, Dirty Shirley OD and BE-OD | Playing Singlecoils Low Gain
20:33 Goodbye, til next time!
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That db meter should be present in all gear related youtube videos! Once I was a teenager and watched a demo of a Marshall 2061x head by Andy (proguitarshop) and I immediatly fell in love with the cranked 20 watt tone and I ordered the amp and back then had no idea how loud a cranked 20 watt tube head will sound! :)))))) once I received the amp I just pluged it and wondered why it is sounding so clean at my bedroom level :))))))
Yeah man - it's all about headroom. Rob Chappers did a video years ago comparing 50 and 100 w Orange heads with the Tiny Terror through a 4x12 and at full the TT was almost as loud as the other two.
love that db meter!!!
This is a really amazing demo. I'm sold on the Dirty Shirley.
Yeah me too finally Maybe go second hand
The dirty shirley pedal is a clear choice for me. Great video. Thanks.
It's like the 80s delivered defibrillator style. I think I'm sold too.
Damn man i love that raw bridge pickup sound from the strat those tex mex pickups are rly nice .
Keep it up Thomann you guys rock even with the delivering delays . ITS WORTH THE WAIT !! :D
What a spectacular demo. Thank you.
The Dirty Shirley is new to my setup, but I am beginning to really appreciate it - this video adds a lot to my understanding of it - thanks!!!
amazing video and amazing representer , i hope thomann brings him always
Great comparison, great playing! :D I really appreciate your playing style... Love these videos and you guys!
I didn't think the BE-OD sounded bad, by any means, but it seems like -- at least based on this particular demo and situation -- that the Dirty Shirley pedal would cut through a mix better. Obviously not as good or complex-sounding as the amp of the same name, but it still definitely sounds good through the Fender, IMO.
The smile in your face is the truth.....lol.......I´ve ordered one of these today at TH
I just got one to create a mini jam board, tuner, OD, delay when I don't feel like taking out my rig which is a DS40 1x12 and board
I have spent some time with it running my amp clean and using the pedal for OD
I can't believe how damned close it gets to the actual amp gain!
I tried it as a solo boost just for kicks and was blown away, truly like having a two channel DS.
Just soldered up a few cables for the tiny board and will use it tonight at a club jam, this one really limits you to about 15 minutes of playing and was tired of hauling out my rig.
Pretty Maids, Future world!! Great F'n Riff!!!Was gonna get the BE-od..But for Studio Recording it seems like the Dirty Shirley is a tad more versatile and a little more harmonically rich..
Cool, I have a DS 40 combo and a nice board I LOVE.. had a lot of nice amps, usually heads and cabs.. There are times when I want to do a club jam and not haul everything for a 15 minutes a playing and I have been toying with the idea of very small board, DS pedal, delay and tuner and plugging into whatever amp is there.. and a Fender like this is very common in Austin. I have never, ever, ever relied on an OD pedal. But., I just might...
Good for you boy....Good for you...
Good to here some The Brew!
Friedman BE-OD 💥
Friedman Dirty Shirley🔥
Awesome stuff! I really dig that DS+ hot rod combination!
Witch reminds me..I'll need to buy an old Hot Rod and new DS pedal from you guys..just incase, for does crappy gigs that are not worthy bringing my Dirty Shirley combo! Awesome review! Friedman rock's!!!
Well done man, got to get me a dirty shirly pedal! Think I prefer the lower gain compaired to the BE-OD. Thanks!
Me too BE has EL34 and DD has 5881 I think so why the difference DS has a mid control as well
Why don't you make a Dirty Shriley Combo Clean Channel with DS Pedal vs. the Drive Channel on the Combo!?!?
Also,where have you set the Tight Switch on the Pedal throughout the playing?
Hey M. Miro, that would have been a good idea also - just for the sake of comparison. We just thought that a pedal-platform amp like the Hot Rod is more prown to be driven by a Dirty Shirley pedal than the Dirty Shirley amp itself - which of course already has all the circuitry in it to offer a fantastic drive channel as well :) And the tight switch is off.
Want to hear that myself... as the DS don’t have a footswitch for gain levels or channel.
that's what I'm looking for too
This is the first video I’ve watched where I liked the DS better. I think having the bass turned way up on it and the bass down on the BE makes a huge difference
I’d be interested to see if you can get similar sound as the DS from the BE deluxe with it’s lower gain channel and extra controls
I have a DS40 with a matching 412 loaded with greenbacks and it is glory...... Just Rock and roll glory..... So dynamic you don't need channels just a volume knob..... Goes from clean to jcm800 with a boost levels of gain with a volume knob...... That said.....it loves pedals too
I have an 800 and I don't need all that bright gain so the DS would be perfect for me
Literally amp in a box!
Cool vid. Would like to hear that with a friedman cali guitar🤘🤘🎸👍🏼
Ich finde die Videos richtig cool von euch. Weiter so.
Danke Kay - werden wir machen :) //Philipp
I prefer the Dirty Shirley Pedal
I run it through my Suhr Bella and smaller gigs Blues Jr with Creamback . Bella has a Alnico Gold
I like to kick it a notch by stacking The Archer in front
Divine
How does it sound w a 1-10 combo like a Princeton or something?? Thanks So would be going Strat or LP into a JHS 66 Boost -- 808 or DS probably both Lovepedal EPH3 delay to the Princeton
I love running the Princeton thru a 2/12 cab....I swapped some 1973 Vox alnico gold's into a nice light Mojo Tone cab Really interested in that DS pedal Gets me away from that Strat SRV tones to say a Ronny Montrose type thing
@@paulcowart3174 it’s sounds fantastic! Nice and tight bottom end yet bell like cleans
@@LuisHernandez-dy1rq Hey great man thanks
Mexican fenders rock I have a Factory Special Run Strat and I sold my American standard maybe I just got lucky
Das war super! Danke :-)
Leider vergessen: den Sound vom Hot Rod ohne Pedal (hab keine Vorstellung wie ein Hot Rod Deluxe mit Drive auf 7 klingt).
Abgesehen davon: interessante Demonstration, das Dirty Shirley Pedal gefällt mir übrigens deutlich besser als das Be-OD.
13:30 - zumindest kurz ;) //Philipp
Ah ja - nicht gerade quietsche-clean aber noch ziemlich clean. Danke!
Usually people aren't satisfied 100percnt in the pedal dept LoL to say the least So late to the party but really considering this DS pedal ..,, #1 always wanted the head but got a Tone King Gremlin head with matching cab so about 2K almost And guess what ?? The Gremlin heads tranny took a dump after about a half a year (25 hrs playtime) So going through the warranty process 2 weeks in They've been great about the whole thing But man could have almost gotten the DS40 by that point SO lol gonna try the DS pedal..... 808 and RM now so looking to get heavier one way and SRVish the other route w the JHS 66 Boost to kick it off WoW what a rant
The Freidman DS is hands down pretty much the best Dirt Pedal I ever owned..and I own a lot
Agree!!!
I've been switching between Fulltone Octafuzz/ OCD or Wayhuge CamelToe through 79 Deluxe Reverb but...( time to open wallet lol)
Hey I trust you.....late to the party but want to add that sustain and 5881 tone to my combos Thanks
The Shirley pedal sounds better through the fender amp than the Friedman.
Not surprised With a hot el34 circuit the amp by itself usually sounds better than throwing a 200 dollar SS pedal in the mix IMO
you played awesome.
The Dirty Shirley kills the BE OD big time
Why not both?
//Andy
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses From Thomann, right?
Added mid control too
Cool video and great sounds, but unfortunately it was pretty much useless. What was the clean tone like, what were the settings and volume like on the Hot Rod and was it breaking up? With the Les Paul it clearly was. Most of the professional gigging players I know that play on clean amps, play on clean clean amps, so no breakup for obvious headroom and volume reasons. With most of these kind of RUclips videos the settings of the clean amp are adapted to make the pedal sound best, while normally you would set the amp to what you think sounds good (and a decent volume) and then see how the pedals sound like. With a lot of Fender amps a high gain pedal turns out to be stiff, scooped and very shrill sounding.. 'But it sounded so great on the RUclips video's!!!' :'( :'( The reason why soooo many players sold their BE-OD, after finding out it didn't sound like Pete Thorn on your own setup, but sounded like a glorified Metal Zone.
Hey Martijn, thx for your comment! Check out 4:32 you'll see the Hot Rod settings. That wasn't being changed throughout the vid.
If you're curious about our volumes being giggable or not, just pay attention to the dB meter, that's why we have it there. :-) 100dB is an ideal (rock) stage volume, so that's what we went for.
None of the two guitars were breaking up on the Hot Rod, which is not a surprise at this volume (the volume knob was at 2,5).
Don't worry about Friedman drive pedals not sounding good with completely clean amps: Dave designs these pedals to work awesome even with a Deluxe Reverb set clean. ;-) //cheers, Kris
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Hi Kris, thanks for your reply! You just sold me on the the pedal then... ; ) Sorry, I didn't see the Hot Rod settings, because I was doing other things whilst listening to the video. Tried to scroll through the video to see settings, but didn't find them. I'm always a bit suspicious with high gain pedal demo's, because the clean sound is often set very dark to compensate the fizz or lack of mids they tend to have. With so many videos nothing is said about the clean sound, or we just get to hear it one second and know that it's nothing like you would normally set it. Would be nice if we could hear the clean sound at the start and 100 Db is pretty loud for a lot of smaller gigs, but oh well! Great video and playing nonetheless and I will order the pedal soon ; )
@@martijnvanspaendonck7989 did you end up liking the pedal?
@@Mist_R Yes. It's not perfect, but it's very flexible. Gigging with it regularly : )
How would this pedal sound through a Traynor YCS 50 or a Blues deluxe RI?
Awesome video. Ty
You are very welcome :) //Philipp
What did u think of the amp?
I have this dirty Shirley amp, and the pedal sounds no where in the ball park with the amp!!
good for you
You have the pedal too?
Yeah I'm sure The DS cranked is unbeatable like my old Marshalls Pedals made them sound worse usually Only 1 100 watter left in the house 6L6 loaded Fender Tone master so that's pretty clean and could use a pedal like that But was mainly concerned me old Princeton and Silvertone...Supro Ratty lol combos But mainly the Princeton and 1484 1-12 combo Man long story short I wanted a DS40 but ended up getting a Tone King Gremlin head w matching cab 2/3rds of the way to a DS AND the Gremlins power tranny takes a dump 6 or 7 months (25 hrs play time) So almost 3 weeks into the warranty process Had to pay to ship back of course Hoping they send me a new one Very disappointed to say the least cause was leaning towards the DS Oh well might still get one SO lol are you still happy and getting on with the DS40 ????
Ooh. Erotic nightmares. Love that riff!!
I looked the statue and yond
Who is this cat BTW?
hey, i want to buy one of this pedals but i have a doubt, which one would be better to drive an amp? i have a 6505 and i want to drive a little bit the amp, but also im planning on buying a marshall dsl 100 hr so i would like to be able to use the pedal with both of them. is it a good idea to buy one of this or im better buying a tube screamer or something? (i want flexibility)
Well its been 2 years now since your comment i guess you have found what you needed but if that's not the case , to drive an amp like those you don't need this pedal or any other pedal thats called an amp in a box which is a replica of the amp in a pedal , this pedals is based in the same amp this guy is playing , also if you have a nice amp like those you mentioned , you don't need to push the amp much those amps have great dirt channels , they are famous because of those sounds but if you want to push a bit more you just need a booster or a mild overdrive , the tubescreamer is always a great option however not always with marshall (great if the marshall is mids scooped ) since the mids of the amp are very present and the tS is all about mids but any boss od work great to push the amp keeley katana , tc mini spark xotic ep booster
@@popchanpop970 LoL late to the party myself hoping this could add a nice flavor to my combos The comment reminds me of a gig many year's ago Nice venue smallish arena gathering I hadn't run 2 - 4/12 bottom and slant in a while 73 50 watt stack Checker board matching cabs Miss those things lol Anyways this was 1985 to 90 so not a ton of pedals around but was running a Boss chorus and a RAT Sound check I cranked that thing up all the way and it was actually usable I'm sure he mic'd it as well But as soon as I hit that RAT pedal I went "No No No this isn't gonna work at all" Point is is that the Marshall dimed was sublime Could not make it any better than it was I remember playing the intro to Ozzy Damn Bmaj w open hi b and e strings Dirty but clean at the same time Pick attack was THE thing to overdrive the amp Thanks for reading
Can someone tell me the name of the decibel measuring device? I want to get one, too!
Check the Gear link in the description ;) tho.mn/urbnh //Philipp
Whaaat? 700 euros for this? I have a car for 900..
Cooles Pedal. Amp ist mir zu teuer, leider.
is there internal pot in DS pedal Chris ?
There is a trim pot i side Dirty Shirley stock setting is 10 o'clock
Luis Hernandez, cool man, thanks for the heads up! 👍🏻
well then, it s a perfect pedal, we can use it even for heavier styles :)
danke für die Time Codes - ich will ihn tatsächlich nicht reden hören :-)
und wenn ich schon A/B Vergleich mache, dann sollte man tunlichst auch das Gleiche spielen und nicht einfach komplett was anderes. Peinlich
Erster!
Ok, kauf Dir was dafür
Be od sounds like metalzone...
not at all i think its youtube or mic-ing it
check GAK demo of it
fedboy21 Don't be blasphemous :-D
i own both, and they r nothing alike
Please don't smoke before filming.. hard to watch