Dude! The algorithm really doesn’t like you! I don’t understand why your channel is as massive as your tone is!!! One of the best guitar channels I watch. Keep em coming!!
Thanks Surf! I appreciate that. I wish I could crank out 3+ vids a week, but my work / life schedule doesn't permit it. So, I get stuff out when I can.
@@BigHairyGuitars honestly it's better this way. Some RUclipsrs have a regular schedule but it seems they struggle to deliver something really interesting or useful 100% fo the time.... It's not your case :)
I have had both the Friedman and the LPD, and many other Marshall-in-a-Box pedals. The Friedman sounds like mud. The LPD Eighty7 is in another class, and one of my all time favorites. Another amazing MIAB pedal, which I highly recommend, is the MI Audio Super Crunch Box V2. However, good look in finding one of those. While technically not a MIAB pedal, I would give another shout out to the XTS Winford Drive, which is a modified RAT circuit with a dedicated midrange control...very hot rodded Marshall-esque.
Lawrence Petross (LPD87), REALLY nailed the JCM800 in his box. I wish it was a different color/ graphics, but, it made my pedal board make sense, now, before & after it!
As a dude stuck in the 80’s still / I love the Friedman stuff but I will be pulling the trigger for the deluxe 2 channel Eighty 7 it will look nice next to my ADA MP 1 / nice awesome demo BTW !!
I A/B'ed them and ended up going with the regular BE-OD! The Tight knob was what made that pedal for me, the control it has over the sound is crazy. Fine-tuning the internal gain pot (fairly low) and it sounds absolutely killer.
I bought the BE-OD a few weeks ago and I've had one show and one rehearsal with it as my main tone. I REALLY like it. I'm always ready to try something new and all of these pedals are phenomenal (especially in Mike's hands) but I'm not hearing anything that's making me *need* to buy one of the other two pedals.... yet.
Man, that Eighty7 sounds really good. I’ve enjoyed everything I’ve heard coming from LPD. Of course the Friedmans sound good, too, as expected always.😎
Tks for the demo and the volume pot test! Sometimes it's way better having it at 6-7 and going to 10 when needed (instead of a boost). I thing boosting solid state pedal with another SS makes it super compressed and missing feeling
Umm, Mr. Nielsen, you've got tone dripping all over the floor. That's gonna seep into the carpet. ;) Seriously, thanks for the demonstration. They all sound so good.
They all are worthy.. but ill stick with my od dlx.. love that pedal as my high gainer. Just got myself a hot mod Evo v2. Putting it in my budda superdrive.. soon as I get a socket saver sent.. unfortunately it wouldn't reach the pcb mounted socket under the chassis .. can't wait to see how well they all work together
they all sound great. would love to hear them into a CabM though. i think a metal zone or the ol "grunge" pedal would sound great into the power section of a 100 watt dirty Shirley
Giving Yourself Away caught my ear! Just need a little 80s grease on it - good sounds as usual! I went from being an "amp distortion only" guy, to now using Bogner pedals (La Grange or Ecstasy Blue depending on what I'm going for) for most of my drive tones, in a pretty short amount of time. Made me feel dumb for being so stubborn.
The small box (and the BE to a lesser extent) has that annoying tube screamer thing going on where you have a clean signal and a super fuzzed signal at the same time. An OK..even good thing for over driving an a,ready dirty amp, but into a clean amp, no bueno. I think into a clean amp thr 87 would be better. But thanks for actually testing like this, most others only demo into a crunch amp, which is good for demoing overdrives not standalone distortions
Do you find the Vol on the Friedman pedals acts like a blend control? The few I've tried seem to mix in a bit of dry, unaffected signal (in an unpleasant way) unless I crank that knob all the way up, making them hard to balance with other pedals. Same thing with Rockett.
Micheal Fugggin Nielson! Love your channel man. I bought your IRs on BHG and Two notes site just to make sure I wasn't missing out on anything lol. Totally converted me to preferring IRs over the OX. Love the content on all your vids but you should flick yourself in the ear for not showcasing the bassman by now.
It’s great. It’s a little softer and sweeter than the Friedman pedals. Sometimes the Friedman’s can be a bit edgy. But then again someone might want that.
I feel like Friedmans are "evolved" Marshalls.. they have tighter low end and not so harsh high end, and that applies to the pedals.. the LPD sounds more like a Marshall, it's more raw, frequencies are harsher idk.. the Friedmans already sound good no matter how you dial them in, they sound polished.
Every time I think I want another amp I hook up the BE-OD into my '52 Flot A Tone into my Mesa 4x12 and I say to myself "What the h*ll was I thinking!" :))
you view it the wrong way...the Shabat is a Strat, which means maple neck, swamp ash (or alder) body and a set of decent single coils. Buy a second hand 80's made in Japan strat for $400 - $500 and you're covered.
@@SergeiVlassov 🤓I LISTENED 2 A FEW DEMOS (UDALOFF - not 4me also) , I MUCH PERFER MID 1960'S TO EARLIER 1990 DESIGNS 👍MORE NATURAL / LOOSER / SAG / CHIME.....SOUND & FEEL😁.....MOST OF MY PEDALS HAVE BEEN SWITCHED OUT YEARS AGO WITH 🇺🇲EHX👍ACCEPT FOR 2 OTHER PEDALS THAT STILL REMAIN......RACK GEAR IS : TC ELECTRONICS EFFECTS / EQ UNIT & A MARSHALL JMP-1 PREAMP........RIGGED UP SPECIAL, USING SELECTED SQUASHY 1/4 " PLUGS / WHIRLWIND CABLE COVERED IN LOOM (SPEAKER CABLES : 18/2 LAMP WIRE COVERED IN LOOM) VARIAC'S : PEDALS 109 VOLTS, AMPS / RACK GEAR & 1 FOOT PEDAL AT 99 VOLTS💥 & OTHER TRICKS DISCOVERIES IMPLEMENTED .......44 YEARS I STARTED PLAYING & I AM ONE THE THE LAST GREAT VIRTUOSO'S LEFT😭
@@SergeiVlassov EHX is ELECTRO HARMONIX started in the late 60's....I LOVE ONLY 8 STOMP BOXES THAT COMPANY DESIGNED (Beats all the rest)👍👍over 95% of all gear SUCKS !!!!!!!! (strings , picks, tubes, cables, amps, spkrs, cabs, guitars, pickups, pedals, rack gear, etc.) 🤓ONLY 1% OR LESS IS THE HOLY GRAIL .
@@davidbuzzin426 I know what is EHX, but you have it written with "us". I quoted it on my PC, but now I look at my comment and I see RUclips automatically put US flag as a part of the word. So on phone and pc comments look different. So you probably was referring to us-made EHX. Ok, got you. In fact, most of the pedals on the market are just clones of each other. If you understand electronics, you can check the schematics and see that there is a probably not more than 10 overdrive /distortin schemes, or even less, the difference between clones are often in small variation of one or few nominals to shift mid peak, or where to cut lows, that will affect also gain structure, etc. And there cannot be the best pedal, as it totally depends on guitar, pickups, amp and speaker that is used. It is impossible to judge a pedal without considering the rest of the chain. One of my favorite pedals on the board is EHX glove, which is a clone of fulltone ocd. The same with amps. Laney Cub you seen in my demo you commented, has a preamp that is a clone of Marshall jcm800. But the amp does not sound as Marshall in stock version, however once you use greenbacks or vintage speakers, you hear familiar tone :) Even here in this demo under which we are commenting, you can hear that jhs and mxr are both matshall in the box with very similar tone, just mxr has more upper mids. It will work better with some amps, and worse with some other.
Small box for me. Most amp-like & just best sounding.
Also good lord the neck on that Shabat. That is the nicest flame example I think I’ve ever seen.
Dude! The algorithm really doesn’t like you! I don’t understand why your channel is as massive as your tone is!!! One of the best guitar channels I watch. Keep em coming!!
Thanks Surf! I appreciate that. I wish I could crank out 3+ vids a week, but my work / life schedule doesn't permit it. So, I get stuff out when I can.
Agreed!
@@BigHairyGuitars honestly it's better this way. Some RUclipsrs have a regular schedule but it seems they struggle to deliver something really interesting or useful 100% fo the time.... It's not your case :)
if great_guitar_player && not_too_much talking && sensational_tones {
boost_factor = boost_factor * 0.1
}
@@letsgofuckingcrazy This! We appreciate you. Hurrah for Michael.
I have had both the Friedman and the LPD, and many other Marshall-in-a-Box pedals. The Friedman sounds like mud. The LPD Eighty7 is in another class, and one of my all time favorites. Another amazing MIAB pedal, which I highly recommend, is the MI Audio Super Crunch Box V2. However, good look in finding one of those. While technically not a MIAB pedal, I would give another shout out to the XTS Winford Drive, which is a modified RAT circuit with a dedicated midrange control...very hot rodded Marshall-esque.
The smallbox is the one that sounds most “amp-like”, natural and versatile
Lawrence Petross (LPD87), REALLY nailed the JCM800 in his box.
I wish it was a different color/ graphics, but, it made my pedal board make sense, now, before & after it!
For me, I've been using the BE-OD to record with. I think it's extremely versatile. Tons of flexibility for tweaking the sound.
Eighty7: Close to the other but too buzzy
BE-OD: good overall
Smallpox: sounds real af. Air in it like a speaker . Crazy
As a dude stuck in the 80’s still / I love the Friedman stuff but I will be pulling the trigger for the deluxe 2 channel Eighty 7 it will look nice next to my ADA MP 1 / nice awesome demo BTW !!
I've had all 3. I now only have the Eighty7. Hands down my favourite. Thin Lizzy, yes!!!
I A/B'ed them and ended up going with the regular BE-OD! The Tight knob was what made that pedal for me, the control it has over the sound is crazy. Fine-tuning the internal gain pot (fairly low) and it sounds absolutely killer.
i sold my BE-OD............................and i bought a BE-OD DELUXE to replace it. omfg YESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!! get into those internal trim pots
👍🏽👍🏽 nicely done my friend ! ... hope there was somebody in studio to help you get up afterwards Michael 🙂
HA! Seriously! MY LEGS MY LEGS 😩 !!!!
@@BigHairyGuitars 😀🙇🏽♂️
@@B__Mer It was 50/50. Sometimes I like the freedom of the sandal, but need the extra sock warmth. :)
I bought the BE-OD a few weeks ago and I've had one show and one rehearsal with it as my main tone. I REALLY like it. I'm always ready to try something new and all of these pedals are phenomenal (especially in Mike's hands) but I'm not hearing anything that's making me *need* to buy one of the other two pedals.... yet.
Also mine. Lot like my be od
Think the 87 has my vote.
Man, that Eighty7 sounds really good. I’ve enjoyed everything I’ve heard coming from LPD. Of course the Friedmans sound good, too, as expected always.😎
Happy Shabat! 🤗
I love this guys chops...always!
Hey did you guys see Michael sneakin around in george lynch’s two notes IR vid? Awesome!
Tks for the demo and the volume pot test! Sometimes it's way better having it at 6-7 and going to 10 when needed (instead of a boost). I thing boosting solid state pedal with another SS makes it super compressed and missing feeling
All three of them sound phenomenal. I can only imagine what people would've done for a pedal like this back in the 80's.
Right? I coulda been a contender!!!
Perfect Ratt tone. Nice!
Thanks for the video, Michael.
Love all 3!! 🤘🏼🤘🏼
They all sound awesome, I want them all. I'd like to hear them without the noise gate though to get an idea of the noise floor.
Been waiting for this!! Thanks for the video!
BE OD sounds the tightest …..LPD (IMO) sounded bright…. Great 👍 video
Yeah, the LPD sounds bright, but so were the 80s tones of the dudes it's trying to mimic, Lynch, Demartini, Bratta, etc.....
Umm, Mr. Nielsen, you've got tone dripping all over the floor. That's gonna seep into the carpet. ;) Seriously, thanks for the demonstration. They all sound so good.
All quality right there
And, all those pedals sound great!
They all are worthy.. but ill stick with my od dlx.. love that pedal as my high gainer. Just got myself a hot mod Evo v2. Putting it in my budda superdrive.. soon as I get a socket saver sent.. unfortunately it wouldn't reach the pcb mounted socket under the chassis .. can't wait to see how well they all work together
Great to hear some lizzy riffs. Keep your Irish fans 😃 🇮🇪💚☘️
they all sound great. would love to hear them into a CabM though. i think a metal zone or the ol "grunge" pedal would sound great into the power section of a 100 watt dirty Shirley
Nielsen! You're back! I was worried!
Absolute stunner of a guitar right there.
Giving Yourself Away caught my ear! Just need a little 80s grease on it - good sounds as usual! I went from being an "amp distortion only" guy, to now using Bogner pedals (La Grange or Ecstasy Blue depending on what I'm going for) for most of my drive tones, in a pretty short amount of time. Made me feel dumb for being so stubborn.
Great work my friend.
Small box sounds incredible 😍
For me, I like be-od and the smalbox, I use be-od
That neck figuring is stealing the show here!
I’ve been watching your channel a lot lately and just ordered a Dirty Shirley pedal.
Excellent demo thanks!
cool video thx! have different MIAB pedals, but the small box is my favorit ...and the carl martin plexi ranger is a very amp like pedal too...
I love this Shabat guitar❤❤❤
The small box (and the BE to a lesser extent) has that annoying tube screamer thing going on where you have a clean signal and a super fuzzed signal at the same time. An OK..even good thing for over driving an a,ready dirty amp, but into a clean amp, no bueno. I think into a clean amp thr 87 would be better. But thanks for actually testing like this, most others only demo into a crunch amp, which is good for demoing overdrives not standalone distortions
I love my BE-OD
Me too
Great to see you throwing Avi that Lynx Love!!
Gorgeous fretboard. Dang
Thanks! Right! Sometimes it's hard to see where the frets are because the flame is so pronounced! haha
@@BigHairyGuitars you have to look at your fretboard while playing´??? :-)
To me Small Box best for low gain. BE for high gain and 87 best all rounder
Long time no see bud!! Hope all is well thanks for the vid 🤟🏻
👍👍👍
They all sound good, be od for me though
Do you find the Vol on the Friedman pedals acts like a blend control? The few I've tried seem to mix in a bit of dry, unaffected signal (in an unpleasant way) unless I crank that knob all the way up, making them hard to balance with other pedals. Same thing with Rockett.
how's difference would you describe between Friedman BE-OD & Smallbox?
To you, quite similar? or BE-OD more high gain, tight and bass?
el mejor canal sobre guitarras!!!gracias por tu trabajo que es exelente!!!
Never touched the mids knob on the Small Box!
Micheal Fugggin Nielson! Love your channel man. I bought your IRs on BHG and Two notes site just to make sure I wasn't missing out on anything lol. Totally converted me to preferring IRs over the OX. Love the content on all your vids but you should flick yourself in the ear for not showcasing the bassman by now.
Thanks John! oh... I actually never really thought about doing that. I will!
Interesting. What sounds great for rhythm doesn't necessarily work for lead playing
What do you think of the LPD 87?
It’s great. It’s a little softer and sweeter than the Friedman pedals. Sometimes the Friedman’s can be a bit edgy. But then again someone might want that.
Great video man. all sounded good.
how about the wampler plexi-drive compared to any of these 3?
It's a great pedal. I have the Plexi drive in another video. ruclips.net/video/Y11HJMB7rVs/видео.html
@@BigHairyGuitars thank man. 👌
Whooooo! Givin Yourself Away!
WOW! Well done! I didn't think anyone would pick that.
@@BigHairyGuitars I'm a big Ratt fan. haha
BE-OD better with single coils, Small Box better with humbuckers
I feel like Friedmans are "evolved" Marshalls.. they have tighter low end and not so harsh high end, and that applies to the pedals.. the LPD sounds more like a Marshall, it's more raw, frequencies are harsher idk.. the Friedmans already sound good no matter how you dial them in, they sound polished.
LPD Eighty7 sounded the best
BE-OD has that oppressive thumpy character present in most Friedman products I've heard, Smallbox suffers a lot less. Great demo thanks!
Like AIC's oppressive tone? Guess you've never toyed with an actual JJ, SB, DS, PT, BE-50 or 100 DLX.
What model Les Paul is that please? I'm wanting to buy one and I love everything about that one
Thanks! It's a Gibson R8 with Lollar Imperial pickups
I have never played an LPD pedal that wasnt phenomenal.
🙌👏
Jailbreak‼️🤘🏽 ... I like all three pedals but JAILBREAK‼️ 🤘🏽🤓🤘🏽
Every time I think I want another amp I hook up the BE-OD into my '52 Flot A Tone into my Mesa 4x12 and I say to myself "What the h*ll was I thinking!" :))
You took the midnight subway train…
Sorry if I missed you saying, but which set of Lollar pickups are in that Lynx?
I think they're called "Special".
@@BigHairyGuitars Okay, thanks! I know Shabat offers different Lollar sets in the Lynx, so I was just curious.
@@TechMetalRules You can always call and ask Avi as well. He's super cool dude. I think the "Special" pickups are the same that Nash uses. ...I think.
@@BigHairyGuitars Right on, thanks for the info!
🙏🏿🤲🏿
What's the riff at 2:40???
Ratt - giving yourself away
sometimes no matter what pedals you use the single coils just plain suck
Unless it's a Tele.
@@raytorvalds3699 they are the worst lol
That Shabat is sweet, but STARTING at $3300?!? Oookay.
you view it the wrong way...the Shabat is a Strat, which means maple neck, swamp ash (or alder) body and a set of decent single coils. Buy a second hand 80's made in Japan strat for $400 - $500 and you're covered.
I heard Ratt
🤓FRIEDMAN PRODUCTS ARE NOT MY SOUND, DEFINITELY NOT 4ME AT ALL. ( less is best, volume & gain controls....only !!!!! )
then you need to try Udaloff Harmonic Injector pedals - great tone, but I miss additional controls ) www.udaloff.com/products/
@@SergeiVlassov 🤓I LISTENED 2 A FEW DEMOS (UDALOFF - not 4me also) , I MUCH PERFER MID 1960'S TO EARLIER 1990 DESIGNS 👍MORE NATURAL / LOOSER / SAG / CHIME.....SOUND & FEEL😁.....MOST OF MY PEDALS HAVE BEEN SWITCHED OUT YEARS AGO WITH 🇺🇲EHX👍ACCEPT FOR 2 OTHER PEDALS THAT STILL REMAIN......RACK GEAR IS : TC ELECTRONICS EFFECTS / EQ UNIT & A MARSHALL JMP-1 PREAMP........RIGGED UP SPECIAL, USING SELECTED SQUASHY 1/4 " PLUGS / WHIRLWIND CABLE COVERED IN LOOM (SPEAKER CABLES : 18/2 LAMP WIRE COVERED IN LOOM) VARIAC'S : PEDALS 109 VOLTS, AMPS / RACK GEAR & 1 FOOT PEDAL AT 99 VOLTS💥 & OTHER TRICKS DISCOVERIES IMPLEMENTED .......44 YEARS I STARTED PLAYING & I AM ONE THE THE LAST GREAT VIRTUOSO'S LEFT😭
@@davidbuzzin426 what is 🇺🇲EHX? MARSHALL JMP-1 PREAMP - cool! Still considering buying it!
@@SergeiVlassov EHX is ELECTRO HARMONIX started in the late 60's....I LOVE ONLY 8 STOMP BOXES THAT COMPANY DESIGNED (Beats all the rest)👍👍over 95% of all gear SUCKS !!!!!!!! (strings , picks, tubes, cables, amps, spkrs, cabs, guitars, pickups, pedals, rack gear, etc.) 🤓ONLY 1% OR LESS IS THE HOLY GRAIL .
@@davidbuzzin426 I know what is EHX, but you have it written with "us". I quoted it on my PC, but now I look at my comment and I see RUclips automatically put US flag as a part of the word. So on phone and pc comments look different. So you probably was referring to us-made EHX. Ok, got you. In fact, most of the pedals on the market are just clones of each other. If you understand electronics, you can check the schematics and see that there is a probably not more than 10 overdrive /distortin schemes, or even less, the difference between clones are often in small variation of one or few nominals to shift mid peak, or where to cut lows, that will affect also gain structure, etc. And there cannot be the best pedal, as it totally depends on guitar, pickups, amp and speaker that is used. It is impossible to judge a pedal without considering the rest of the chain. One of my favorite pedals on the board is EHX glove, which is a clone of fulltone ocd. The same with amps. Laney Cub you seen in my demo you commented, has a preamp that is a clone of Marshall jcm800. But the amp does not sound as Marshall in stock version, however once you use greenbacks or vintage speakers, you hear familiar tone :) Even here in this demo under which we are commenting, you can hear that jhs and mxr are both matshall in the box with very similar tone, just mxr has more upper mids. It will work better with some amps, and worse with some other.