Chrome OS vs. Samsung DeX: Which Is Better For You?
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One thing to think about
You can put a note 9 in your pocket
You can't put a Pixel Book in your pocket
Yes Cookie that's the draw for me too, until I need that big screen. Can't find one in a cafe.
@@ThePharaohsCat hence foldable phones??
Jack -X if you give me Westworld’s solution, then yes please!
Jack -X Screen doesn’t need to be foldable, just a good hinge, slide, or modular design.
you cant use dex without a screen so technically you’re gonna have to put a monitor in your bag which is awkward..
For me I think DeX is the way to go. I already use a Note9 and I genuinely prefer Samsung Internet over Chrome, at least on mobile. The only reason i go to desktops are for mouse/keyboard web browsing and writing papers for school.
@3165dwayne I think most people are this light users and seen ipad pro been able to handle some pro software I can wait to see the future the dex has to offer kinda crazy where are getting to this point in technology that a simple phone can do so much they honestly need to have the ability to have different dex models like a one that is just a media player so drop your phone in the living room dex and bang you have a android player with a dedicated controller or a dex tablet / laptop is a big one that people want I'm still a heavy user but this things just exited me
3165dwayne same with ipad pro
Three weeks ago i was about to purchase a chromebook. Before i did i came across an article about Dex and since i had a note 9 i decided to give it a shot. My wife and daughter have chromebooks so I'm quite familiar with it but Dex really suprised me. I use Microsoft Word and Excel for work and i feel they work better on Dex than Google's docs and spreadsheets (on Dex that is). As for the updates, Samsung has the latest security update (September 2018) and if you're talking about Andriod version, I really dont think it is that big a deal. Samsung has had features long before stock Andriod gets them (splitscreen, picture in picture, etc.) so in a way i think they are somewhat ahead of stock Andriod. Still, I like chrome os and agree it may be more secure but for now i'll save my $500 i was about to spend on a chromebook and maybe next year i'll jump at the chance to own one. If its light work you're currently doing and you currently have the latest or last years galaxy s phone, give dex a try.
Totally agree. Split screen is my favourite feature.
Both Dex and Chromebooks are great. Use whatever you think is the right choice for you. Although your comment doesn't make so much sense regarding compatibility with Microsoft Office. If you are using MS office on Dex, you can also just use that on never Chromebooks that has Android support. It's the same app. Regarding Google Docs, it isn't that good with MS Office files. But that has nothing to do with Dex or Chromebooks. On Chromebooks Google Docs is generally much better to use in the browser, than the app you have on Dex/Android.
@3165dwayne : nonsense, ChromeOS and Android are both Linux and both use memory the same way.
@@Jimmy_Jones yeah I did notice that DeX was certainly limited out of the box. BUT it does all of the things a normal person would need it to do. Being able to get intricate key binds and more settings is probably what DeX most needs. As far as RAM management goes, I have 8 gigs of it on my 512 GB note 9 and I have zero issues, with 5+ things open at the same time. But then again I have a note 9, for the 4gb and 6gb Samsung variants I would imagine it's a bit more limited.
Brandon Geehan Its not, its not like a chromecast where things crash every once in awhile, this thing just keeps running. I can leave my house and come back and my s9 with 4 gbs will still run dex just fine. I think dex has alot to do with what your host is. Im using a dex compatible hdmi hub and have no issues.
Regarding your DeX complaints @ 4:50
- Samsung Internet has extensions (nowhere near as many as the Desktop Chrome) and it works miles better in DeX than Chrome.
- Samsung Internet is regularly updated. Chrome OS is merely the Chrome browser getting updates, and it's not even gonna keep updating after google stops supportingthe hardware.
- Regarding the calendar, simply use Samsung's feature-packed Calendar app and sync google Calendar to it.
- Regarding IDE, check out Linux on Galaxy, it's part of the future of DeX. And BTW, you'll also be able to run the full Fledged Desktop Chrome in there, literally giving you every advantage of Chrome OS.
it's a real shame samsung ended support for linux on dex already
@@lronSausage That was quick. As it stands now though, it seems ChromeOS is getting more Linux support and compatibility with it's Linux beta program.
Remember when and who introduced split-screen in Android now that is baked in Android OS. Samsung is introducing features which is way ahead of the stock Android, and soon enough, stock Android follows and catches up. DeX has just started last year, and yet now it is even comparable to ChromeOS which is supposed to be a more mature OS.
Except this whole video is about how it isn't ...
It's the other way around, Samsung always overshoots Google by shipping half-baked features which they enable in their fork, they once shipped a version of webkit (blink / chrome now) with massive vulnerabilities in WebGL cuz why not. Android has had support for this out of the box since literally forever, shipping it as non-standard is kinda shooting everyone in the foot there are many many many many many things which would be better handled from native capabilities of the operating system.
Many of the things he talks about in the video is exactly the points I am talking about, the link in chrome doesn't open because chrome is not looking to open the uri scheme or is failing to or is just not configured to open an app, lastly there is a massive huge question mark in my head about how Dex will handle UI isolation.
@@hukeskypotter5149 Exactly my thoughts. Samsung often introduces these obvious features in a state that makes it look like they work a certain way, but when you take a closer look they actually work the same as they always did, just now you can mistake them for something else. In this case they can market it as a "full desktop mode", when in reality it just looks like a desktop but still has the same mobile limitations as always. Then Google comes along and actually makes them work (or sometimes not :P) and usable for the entire ecosystem, but Samsung fans can proclaim that Samsung did it first and Google is just playing catch-up.
@@stevebergman6431 Amen to that brother!
Be cool if the next Pixel phone gave you the option to plug into a monitor and give you full Chrome OS
Would be cool but it is impossible. Dex is a better looking android os for a external display or tablet screen but chromeos is nothing to do with android and is a linux distribution so it just simply wouldnt work without virtualization or the pixel running chromeos
Dex for the win.
😁
Tablet pcs finish becaus cloud gamming baging dex perfect
Yes
Dicks for the win.
I've been using both Dex and a Pixelbook, trying to decide which one does it better. I don't disagree with your points. Most of them, I've also noticed to be true. However, even though your channel is about Chrome OS, you should have admitted the couple of clear advantages that DEX has over a Chromebook: 1) It's a pain that I can't put app icons on the desktop on a Chromebook....The Chromebook gives you only the shelf for icons. On DEX, as with Windows, you can put icons anywhere on the desktop. 2) DEX is one of the few operating environments where I can post widgets such as email widgets, giving easy at-a-glance access (and of course, many other widgets). 3) I find the S-Pen on Samsung's phones and tablets to be superior to any other pen I've tried...including my Pixelbook Pen (and Surface Pen).
Chromebooks always have weak processors, low ram, and even lower disk space. Hardware on dex is superior, but I keep coming back to my Samsung Chromebook Pro because it had a built-in stylus and runs chrome.
One day, we will get it all...
Having shortcuts on the desktop is a fall over from how operating systems used to work. Why access apps from the desktop where you've got to minimize everything first when you have a dock? Good point about widgets though.
@3165dwayne Android and ChromeOS are both Linux, so how they manage RAM should be similar. When you say it kills apps, I doubt your comparing apples to apples in terms of apps and load with other OSes.
@3165dwayne Its funny that you say android is only for phones doing not too many things at a time when android is the only mobile OS that actually lets you do many things at a time, more than any other OS, at least in samsung phones: two apps running simultaneously using half of the screen each, one or more apps running on tiny resizeable or minimizeable windows over the other two, all while listening to spotify and/or downloading torrents. If you know other mobile systems that are capable of that, please let me know to give it a look. I would be pretty surprised.
@3165dwayne I question whether chrome is lighter. Chrome can't do anything without a full browser running. Apps on Ubuntu can be as light as possible.
Samsung DeX is now supporting Linux and it can support windows Op too...
Thanks Samsung for giving, user so much.
so is chrome... and linux on dex is limited and slow af
@@apdroidgeek1737 its still on beta tho
I still don't understand the purpose of dex
@@hendrywahana to use desktop with mouse keyboard on bigger display with better multitask
Linux is not supported anymore
So what you're saying is that both chromebooks and dex are not perfect yet.
But you think that chrome os will be better in the future... So you consider it the best way to go!!!??
I'm sorry, I'm not convinced
He's a paid advertiser from Google themselves
1st off Samsung browser supports extension.
2nd make sure your chromebook is in desktop mode.
3. Dex now will support Linux apps so you will finally get a true desktop productivity.
On the 9th of march 2019 I got my new Samsung... S10. I used for a week Samsung Dex on S9. But now I have the S10. Yesterday I installed Ubuntu with 'Linux on Dex' on my S10. And it's quite fast🚀
I'm astonished 😯
I like the idea to use my smartphone like a PC with Samsung Dex.
I saw in the internet that one can use for example Windows 10 with Microsoft Azure... also a cloud Windows 10.
In my case, I prefer a Samsung S10 instead of a Chromebook, because I have a very quick ability to use Ubuntu with Linux on Dex or Windows 10 in Microsoft's cloud.
O.k., the Microsoft cloud solution cost extra.
But Linux on Dex works fine withy Samsung S10.
And it's just 1 device instead of a Chromebook and a smartphone.
And with an unlimited mobile contract it's like a laptop and cable internet.
Last month I used nearly 1,500GB over mobile traffic, therefore I don't need anymore a laptop and no cable internet.
And who will need cable internet anymore, if they turn on 5G🤔
you need regular internet if your device is not a smartphone so therefor no 4G LTE
I'm going to have to disagree with nearly everything in this video. I have an S20 Ultra. DeX is incredibly fast on this phone.
Let's address some things you mentioned:
1- Productivity: DeX has windows screens, allows for drag and dropping from window to the next, supports multiple monitors, and has the ability to snap windows from one side of the screen to the next.
2- ChromeOS running Android/Android running Chrome and Kiwi extensions. Chrome Mobile runs Chrome extensions. Kiwi runs Chrome Desktop specific extensions. You can now have a full version of ChromeOS on iOS or Android with that. I have a ChromeOS... Android running Chrome extensions is far faster and productive than vice versa.
3-Development for: while ChromeOS primarily supports web based apps, so does Android via Cordova/Phonegap. Android can also make use of Java development and C/C++ development. Also check out B4X.com and you can develop in .Net Basic language.
4-Available apps: Androids software library exceeds ChromeOS. Probably by 1000 times. Most software that a typical user would need is found in Androids Library like Adobes software suite, Microsoft Office, development IDEs, emulators, games, etc.. If you are missing a game or app you would normally use on your PC, you can use Steam Link to play them. If you are also away from your home, just use a VNC type software and you can plug into your PC at home even using software like Unity 3D with Splashtop.
5- Portability: DeX offers you the opportunity to take all your files with you and just plug in anywhere that has a monitor. Your phone can act as a Mouse and Keyboard if need be. You can connect your device and use DeX on a pc, any monitor, portable touch screens TV, TV, etc... You can optionally also connect SD cards, USB drives and Bluetooth Keyboards, mice and controllers.
6- Gaming: Gaming is a horrible experience compared tSlashdot.
Overall, this idea is outdated. Google should leave Chrome Extensions but discontinue ChromeOS and work on OS like RemixOS using Android as its primary desktop OS.
Even as an iPhone and Gaming PC user I have to say Dex is the future. I can honestly as a future where we only have a phone especially for your average user who only does basic things like ready emails, watch videos etc.
Been using a chrome book using cloud ready for a few months now on my low spec laptop and it has been a blast using it. Rather sad that cloud ready doesn’t have play store but it doesn’t really affect me that much since we have a browser for most of the things. I get most of my work done, google docs and emails and whatnots run well for a laptop that lags even on the lightest Linux distro...
Chrome OS ftw
Sounds like Dex and Chrome OS are both in infancy and will continue to grow into great OS. Sounds like it really depends if you want a tablet that can handle some work tasks when you need it to, like a student maybe, or a more PC set up for primary work and when that's done quickly and easily move into your entertainment/tablet side of things. 2 in 1s or convertibles never grabbed me because I felt they were too far from being a tablet. I'm really in a hard decision over the galaxy tab S4 and the new pixel slate. I think they are both exceptional devices and have really found that happy middle between a laptop and a true tablet. Nice review and explanation btw
Google are just lazy to not have brought out a fully featured full desktop browser for Android Dex modes yet. Very very lazy. There is no reason an Android device like with Dex can't run a full Chrome browser, with 100% of everything that you see in Chrome OS or in any Chrome browser on Windows, Linux or Mac. Also all the Google apps on Android look like crap for productivity. There is no reason Google hasn't yet provided a full mouse/keyboard optimized version of Gmail, Gmaps, Gphotos, RUclips Creator and so much else yet. When you're a trillion dollar company and when every top level software developer in the world wants to work for you, you just don't have any excuse not to have executed on it yet. Also no hardware accelerated Chrome on Windows 10 for Snapdragon yet is a real real big shame.
I think Google realised the future of computing isn't a mobile first operating system. Apple is trying with iPad Pros but it's limited compared to desktop first operating systems.
Such a wrong strategy, after 3 Billion people are using Android every day, how could Google miss the boat so badly on this, I just don't understand what they must be thinking. Don't get me wrong I am a much bigger Chrome OS fanboy than ChromeUnboxed, but Google is just executing totally wrong. 5 years ago Chrome OS should have overtaken Windows on the Laptop and Desktop market. By now, iOS should not even exist.
Charbax, you’re 100% correct!
Just use Firefox, it's the same on mobile and desktop: addons !
I think you are a little bit harsh on Google here. I agree that the Android apps of Google could be a little better optimized for productivity on a larger screen, so that I do not feel that I am missing the browser version all the time.
But Chrome on Android is optimized for mobile and that kind of battery usage. Releasing the desktop version of Chrome on Android would just give Google way to much support trouble, just to support a little niche product like DEX. I can't really see why Google should bother with it yet.
DEX is Samsung's creation, and Samsung has their own browser. They should make a full featured Desktop browser for use with DEX. Not Google.
Watching this 4 years later, you predictions have petty much proven true. I am setting up an Acer Spin 311 for a college freshman. I handles both productivity and consumption chores amazingly well, especially for such a low end product. As a student I would find it much better than an iPad/keyboard combination.
There is an app in the playstore called Desktop browser for dex that gives you full desktop browsing experience . You can edit your wix site and doesnt try take you to the app versions
Give me a Chrome OS phone that you can dock and use as a desktop, and I'd be very happy.
If the Pixel 3 does that then I'm buying myself one :)
This would be the holy grail. I'd prefer a dual boot.
Me too
Yo! that's a bread move 👍 💰
I strongly agree but major phone makers don't want that market and actively work around offering it.
Have you actually tried the tab s4? because everything i use it for is a better experience. Why get a chrome book if you can just get a laptop running windows. what you said" chrombook is a laptop first" is the exact opposit of the tab s4 which is a tablet first. And i think thats the better way of doing a 2 in one. its just better.
I prefer free software over proprietary one, for me the Chromebook would be the best choice, because I have the Android apps, the Linux mode where I can run all apps I want like steam (and even most of the windows one), and Chromebook bios is free coreboot, and not a proprietary weird thing of uefi you find on ALL other computers. And it's easy for me to put a normal free Linux is on it instead of chrome is, or even dual boot them. With them, it is possible to touch the dream of a all free computer or tab with the pixel slate :)
Dex has Ubuntu support now, and if you want free software, you don't want Google Products as they aren't free at all lol, its open source with proprietary addware on top. They are paid in data. Samsung Dex is paid through your purchase of a Samsung phone
@@DerpSenpai I know Google product aren't free, but the bios of the Chromebook are all free, and you can install your own Linux on it, so you have a computer with a free bios, q free bootloader, and a free is and software.
You can't have that on a normal PC or a phone, as on the phone, the bootloader if closed, as well as the bios, and the manufacturer and Google apps. And on the PC, the bios is closed too, except on the Chromebook, and the purism laptop.
@@DerpSenpai I hope Samsung does not kill it now that they are sleeping with WindBlows
I'm a web applications developer, and I have just configured my Note 9 to do pretty much everything I do on my windows desktop, with the difference that I can disconnect it, put it in my POCKET and walk away. My travel gear just became a lot lighter as well. In the place of my laptop, a mini bluetooth keyboard and mouse, and a simple USB-C to HDMI cable. You can keep your Chromebook.
Do you think google will push android app developers to optimize their apps for larger screens like what they did with website -they encouraged mobile friendly websites.
Now almost every website can be viewed on any screen but not andriod apps they are designed for that small screen.
That's an understatement about DeX. Optimized apps do *behave* differently, so it is unfair to say it's just an app. Many Microsoft apps for example provide great experience. It's also up to Google to give you extensions or not on Android, that's not a shortcoming of DeX. On top of all that, I get the full desktop Chrome on DeX through Ubuntu Linux. And when I'm done, boom, it fits into my pocket!
You're right, DEX isn't a standalone application like the ones you typically download. Here's why it's integrated into Samsung's Android OS:
**Built-in Functionality:**
* **Core Features:** DEX leverages the existing Android multi-window mode (present since Android N) as its foundation. Samsung adds functionalities on top of this base, allowing apps to run in a desktop-like environment.
* **System Integration:** DEX utilizes core Android functionalities like system resources, security protocols, and hardware integration (like Iris scanner) without requiring a separate app.
**Focus on Extension:**
* **Tailored Experience:** DEX primarily acts as an extension, transforming the Android interface on compatible Samsung devices (phones/tablets) for a desktop-like experience.
* **Seamless Access:** Since it's part of the OS, DEX is readily available on compatible devices. No separate download or installation is needed.
**App Compatibility:**
* **Leveraging Android Apps:** DEX primarily relies on existing Android apps. While some optimization might be needed, most apps designed following standard coding practices can run within DEX.
In simpler terms, DEX acts like a special mode within the Samsung Android OS designed to utilize the existing system functionalities and pre-installed apps to create a desktop-like environment. This makes it distinct from applications you download from the Play Store.
I wonder which is better: DEX or Huawei's desktop mode?
If you use the "request desktop site" on the Chrome mobile app it works great on DEX!
if dex could run the full chrome browser with plugins it would be a no contest for DEX
I took the plunge and bought the Samsung Tab S4 - and I love it! Considering DeX is relatively new in comparison - it deserves more credit and (hopefully) will be developed further. There are some limitations and anomolies for sure, much like when android apps came across to chrome. You also seem to have omitted to mention the DeX laboratories mode which improves many apps in the DeX windows.
Haha nobody develops No one is developing anything for Samsung!
@@royroysar they are giving the sdk out to developers
Got one two a few months ago and it's my main desktop
I just got accepted to test Linux on DeX with my note 9 and the biggest thing is now I can get a full Chrome browser that supports extensions and everything else. Works like a dream so far.
Ultimately it's a really bad comparison.
Everyone needs a phone, the Dex makes that phone into a basic workstation by plugging it into what is essentially a charger, add a mini wireless keyboard+trackpad and your good to go, a setup that can easily fit in a coat or bag pocket. Works with tv, monitors and projectors and may save you if your laptops dies. Correct, it's not a laptop killer, it's adding another reason to buy a Samsung phone to professionals who want more out of their business devices.
Chrome OS may well be a fine enough inferior windows but a tablet is another device to take with you, if your carrying around a tablet you can take a slim laptop so why gimp yourself at that point? Again It's just not a laptop killer, few businesses use tablets and i don't think chrome OS will convince many to not just carry on with laptops.
I guess what I'm getting at is one is a useful addition to a device you may already be (or thinking about) using and ones a dedicated device. Ones trying to make a phone more useful and the others trying to be a more functional tablet, only one of those devices do you really need when you have a work laptop.
I'm a programmer and I would like to be able to code on Dex.
I'm also a programmer and I do actually code on my DeX. My phone is my primary computer. I use it for everything.
@@samsungdexvideosbyshaunros121 What IDE are you using on Dex? I'm kind of a Backend dev, which apps could you suggest?
@@chungxa1 I work as a PHP Web Developer. I don't have any app. I use my Microsoft Edge Browser and then I have a online Code Editors.
Although I might switch over to Samsung internet Browser soon.
@@samsungdexvideosbyshaunros121 Actually I can't imagine how you work with your server side, you might run Apache on your Samsung Dex, nope?
@@chungxa1 No. We do everything live. Our website cPanels have a built in code editor. Our WordPress sites also have a built in code editor. So we make changes and then save. We can then preview it before it goes live or just make it live and view it live.
Very good review, with no sugarcoating. I personally prefer DeX because I don't want it to replace my laptop (which usually stays at home). For me it's a more convenient way of doing things that are doable on the phone anyway - browse the web, write some comments to which I attach photos from the day (made with the phone) without waiting for them to sync on oftenly questionable Internet connection, view map applications on a larger screen, sometimes do something in Word or Excel. All of that with having all the data in one place untill I can get home and let it sync through a proper connection. DeX is good if you know what exactly you expect from it.
Nice video.
I've never understood the difficulty in getting productivity out of any phone/tablet that connects to a keyboard/monitor/mouse. Just use Remote Desktop. Every company I've worked for had at least a TerminalServer. I also have a computer at home that acts as my media server that I use as a personal Windows Remote Desktop. I've never felt the need for a beefy laptop because of this "thin client" mentality. I wanted to try Dex on my s9 but my regular USB-C dock doesn't trigger it - but I could load Microsoft's RDP app fine and got a full windows experience on it.
My current tablet - a Galaxy Tab S Pro and Galaxy Book 12 are by far the best laptop/tablets I've ever had. I get to 100wpm + on their keyboards and the big OLED screens are only surpassed by my LG 65" OLED at home .They are the best portable entertainment centers and can run any windows app. This week I was just loading huge Excel sheets on them. I really don't get why they don't get more love. The Surfaces, by comparison, are terrible.
The Galaxy Tab S4 is a complete rip off in comparison to the Galaxy Tab S Pro/Galaxy Book 12.
I would love to have the one device for my kid. He's 7 and the Lenovo 300e looks perfect for his needs. Before parting with my cash however I decided to create him a google account, linked to the Family for the features offered and tried it out on my Asus C302. Then I discovered a huge hole in Google's line-up. While they allow kids to have pure Android devices (managed by parents) they don't allow Android Apps to be installed in a Kids account on a Chromebook. I can't even access RUclips Kids in his account on the Chromebook because it tells me to install the App, but I can't install the app as the playstore is completely hidden. There are some fantastic educational Apps I want him to be able to use too. It's SO frustrating. I don't want to get two devices as it would be a waste of money, especially when the Lenovo is physically capable of satisfying both requirements. I hope Google address this very soon.
Huh? What terminal? Also my kid is 7.
Linux on Dex, use your phone to get the full web experience just like chrome OS. In my pocket.
The last point about one device is correct. Why can't I have an android phone the runs a chrome desktop when docked?
With the launch of Samsung Galaxy Tab S7+ 2020, it will be good to compare how things have developed.
Imagine when the fold comes out. It will be a 3 in 1, phone tablet and pc.
Years have passed, this vid needs a revisit
I bought a Tab A 10.1. Without Dex. I'm using it basicly to make word, powerpoint, take notes in class etc. I think for basic usage like this Dex would be great. I think i will buy a tablet with dex in one year or two when it is more mature.
I'd be curious to see an updated version of this comparison video. I know there is some build out that's been done in Android facilitate this as well.
my thought exactly.
It boils down to whether or not the tools are available and effective for the platform you're working with when you do "work". For my work environment we use a hosted desktop and the Dex environment will run the viewer without a problem. If someone's work environment relies on locally installed software then of course you're subject to the availability and reliability of those apps in whatever environment you choose.
I think for all the effort Samsung is putting I to their software they would be better off using a Linux version of chromium for dex in a container ..
They are already developing Linux on DEX....just waiting when it comes out.
@@JemueL29 Very soon 😁
@@JemueL29 keep waiting lol
@@radroroscam3770 already gave up on it...you're kinda late lol
Really waiting for a Chrome tablet that is not only reliable with great battery life as well, but hopefully just under the cost of the Samsung V1 and V2 Chromebooks. It would also be good if it had at least a 10.5" screen. My Acer R11 is treating me well, but it's a bit dated and clunky. Would really prefer the tablet form factor, for my needs anyway. Also, adding to the cost, I would like to be able to use my Bamboo stylus with it. If I was young and had the ability to build such a thing myself, believe me...I would!
Great video even though it is 4 years old, I would like to see you do an update on this. I did try to use DEX for a week and it did not meet all my needs. My first Chromebook is arriving tomorrow and I'm excited to experience Chrome OS. We all desire to have one device that meets most of our needs. Perhaps Google should add Chrome OS into their Pixel Phone lineup much like Samsung does with DEX?
@Soggy Android Samsung phones cannot run macros in excel or sheets... Chromebooks can.
phones can not run chrome extension...Chromebooks can
I say that Chromebooks are more of a work horse than a phone but not as good as a Windows computer. But who wants to pay twice as much for a computer that is subject to more virus.
I have been using DeX on my Tab S4 for a month now and I find it a great way to get more out of my tablet. I tavel from location to location for work so when I need to sit down and use Excel, Google Sheets, PowerPoint, etc to switch to Dex mode. It works great. When I need more of a tablet interface for note taking or gaming I can switch it back. It has helped me to reduce the need to carry around a laptop during the day. I also have a Chromebook with the new software on it and I prefer DeX at this point.
Agreed. I have the Samsung Tab S4 and have turned off Dex. Occassionally I'll use it, but I found it's far better as a tablet. Androids multi tasking isn't bad.
What I need is a full desktop browser. Seems like google missed the mark on this latest pixel book. But it sounds like they're getting there. Until then I can 90% of things in android and will just use a proper computer for the last 10%.
0:45 no it’s the Tab S6 and the keyboard isn’t included
Good review. I feel you're a tad hard on DEX due to your Chrome learnings, but you do look a bit deeper at the productivity shortcomings of DEX and the like. I'm nomadic so my requirements always sway between heavy productivity and ultra mobile. Have used many combos over the years. Thought I could upgrade my iPhone SE to a 7 recently as used a 6S before with BT keyboard as second screen to a Galaxy Tab 10 Note. But the 7 didn't hit the spot. Not small enough to get out my way, and not a productivity beast. So occasionally I scout and research Androids and been considering a power phablet with DEX. Idea being can travel light with one powerful machine Candidates the Sammie's, LG V35, ASUS 5Z, Huawei P10 to Mate 20 X. Pocophone F1. I'm always conscious of the time I waste researching Androids which you don't do with iPhone. Well spent hours yesterday at electronics centre trying to find the ASUS as the LG V35 is hard to find in Asia. I'm glad I couldn't find one, as during my search I thought do I really need an Android phablet? I just deleted Manjaro Linux and installed Chrome OS on an old laptop and will sell my old MacBook Air. The old laptop is pretty heavy compared to current hardware, and won't be lugging it around like I used to. So that may still leave a productivity gap when working at the café etc. A phablet would drop right in there, but beyond this use case I can't see me using one. If a DEX like desktop solution was viable then that would tip me, but my experience with DEX alternatives, (SENTIO etc) hasn't been convincing. Thus I may have to fill that mobile productivity gap with paper, pen and speech to text/dictation. Interested to hear other stories.
Maybe it wasnt so when the video was made, but now Android Chrome app runs Google Calendar correctly when you click "Desktop mode" at the bottom of the page.
Don't forget that Dex devices only get security updates for around 3 years after their release, while with ChromeOS you get minimum 6...
I got a chromebook last week and I like it. I bought the samsung chromebook 3. With the play store I've been able to pretty much do what I want. I recently had a windows 10 laptop suffer a brutal death at the hands of there latest update. That alone made me explore my options. ChromeOS is the future and people need to get on board. I notice linux (beta) is available but I have no idea on how to use it so I won't activate it. I am glad also that I waited to check out chromeOS. I wanted to see how it matured before diving into it.
It is supposed that google as a software developer should be more sensitive to os design. Ironically, this time, a phone manufacturer has taken the first step to solve the problem of turning a smartphone into a desktop-like environment and Samsung Dex is favoured and welcomed by many consumers.
This guy literally batched Samsung Dex and I have used Samsung Dex for 2yrs now and it works better than anything else.
Dex is most useful for running Linux distros when you want those tools on a phone and to have one OS on your PC, tablet and phone. It's beta software and given five or ten years should mature nicely. If you already own a capable phone it's a useful option, but not a primary reason to buy a phone.
Well dex is better because you can have Linux on it
And it's all powered from your Samsung phone, don't have to go buy a Chromebook device lol
Which you can do on a chromebook as well. Full chrome browser plus extensions is really nice too. Also, with a chromebook I don't have to carry a monitor around and hook it up when I want to use it. Chromebooks tend to be supported for much longer and do all their updates in the background.
Four years ago I would have recommended a Chromebook. However, in 2022, I would recommend Samsung DeX especially if someone already has a Samsung smartphone or tablet, or are looking to buy a smartphone.
If you have a keyboard, a mouse, and a screen right in front of you, you will surprisingly find a computer tower on/under your desk!
Why do I wanna to unplug HDMI cable and plug that on my cellphone for productivity if I have a proper desktop right in front of me lollllll
You can run your IDE. In Linux for Dex. Just install Ubuntu 16.04 and you're going too have vi visual studio code etc
Very nice. I don't often find video explanations that I watch for more than a few seconds. I watched and paid attention all the way to the end. Thanks, it was thought provoking and explained much about DeX that I was curious about.
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I think DeX is in it’s infancy. If Samsung keeps at it, it may catch up with Chrome OS in a few years, especially as smartphone SOCs get more powerful.
I'm doubtful about some of your points:
1- no browser extension on Android: use Firefox, Firefox/Android has extensions, Chrome/Android doesn't. Firefox works fine, it actually has a few nifty tricks Chrome doesn't anyway. The UI is a bit different so you've got a couple of days of adjustment, then you're sailing along.
2- "DeX wants you to open the app" . Duh ? The whole point of DeX is to let you use Android apps in desktop mode. From my experience, Android apps are always superior, often *vastly* superior, to their corresponding Webapps. That's the crux of the matter really. hromeOS has far fewer apps than Android, and weaker ones too.
3- You don't mention that DeX, like ChromeOS, supports Linux apps. This should solve most of the higher-end problems like your development environment ?
4- I'm still unclear about specifics: how well to Android games and apps run under ChromeOS ? Does it support the same gamepads as true Android ? Do ChromeOS tablets usually have HDMI out ?
Samsung internet has add-ons......
You can get hdmi out from a chromebook and use game controllers. You just need to use an adapter in one of the usb c ports.
I think that both are great, but I like Chrome OS better because to get Dex you have to be at a desktop, but with Chrome you can be on a laptop or a desktop.
I do agree with a different comment that I read that Apple should put a Mac-style Dex on iPhones and Google put a chrome Dex on Pixel phones
Coming from the dark side (yep I was an Apple toxic dependent) Dex is just something UNREAL for me.
Really I wasn’t able to immaginate it before I see it.
Thank you Samsung❤️
I love the fact that ChromeOS finally implemented the Google Play Store. I pretty much love ChromeOS and choose it over any Windows or MacOS any day.
The 4k Pixelbook Go is a dream Laptop for me, along with the Duet 5 is the best Tablet for Battery Life and Productivity for sure. Without Play Store, Chromebooks used to be totally useless for me lol. But now it's a whole new game with access to all those apps.
Why would you want to use DeX as a productivity tool? I mean when am working I need 2 monitors and a phone or tablet can't do the trick. Only a laptop and I need an external monitor too! I use dex to watch Netflix, tubi tv, pluto TV, RUclips, Ebay, and Google.
I run Debian on DeX via UserLAnd which is far better than LoD. (MRPs channel was a great help.) All phone OS are shit, but a phone with a desktop distro offers a proper OS for limited work.
For real work I can run Windows, Linux and Android at the same time (and a Hackintosh VM if I cared) in virtual machines on a notebook while having port choices, vastly more storage, better CPU, GPU and more RAM. Chromebooks are cool but limited in many ways. Their best feature is they can run Linux software too.
Not sure, but I think the concept of pocket desktops like Dex was first implemented by Microsoft in continuum and it worked really well, although the phones didn't.
You are better off deciding between a Chromebook vs a surface go. That tab s4 is just way too high for what it is, it costs as much as a maxed out go with a keyboard and is more expensive than a hp x2 which includes a keyboard and pen.
I am legit torn because of the portability and sheer excellence of the s4 screen for media. But man I gotta see what the pixel slate can offer
If it isn't OLED, go home. OLED wipes the floor with IPS when it comes to media consumption.
I bought the s4. Beautiful oled screen. Worth every cent. I can't even look at a ips screen anymore
@@ssramroop how's performance in standard tablet mode? Is Dex even worth it to you?
@@EdCruzat i mainly use it in standard tablet mode for web browsing, RUclips and watching my movie collection stored on the sd card. The screen is bright, color s are beautiful and the speakers are excellent..waay better sound and display than my Asus c302 flip chromebook. Battery life is decent and recharges fairly fast. It meets exactly the needs i require. The s pen is nice to have as well. No issues with slow downs. The tablet is very snappy and smooth
I don't use dex too often as i use it mostly for media consumption but it does work for productivity fair enough. Dex is just a bonus for me in case i need it
Samsung dex paired with shadow pc using parsec to connect to it is awesome. My phone is a top of the line gaming pc that fits in my pocket!
The problems you describe saying that when you open gmail or the calendar you don't get a the latest version of the websites UI...that's not Samsung's fault. That's a Google issue. Samsung has their own calendar and email applications that are perfectly optimized for DEX. I don't use gmail or google calendar app so my protonmail and business calendar works fine on the Samsung Browser.
5:25 no! Samsung browser allow you to set the device not to open apps and force it use web-based one. I use Samsung Internet for Google doc online all the time and it works perfectly as in windows Os Browser
Now, dex have a version called Linux on Dex that is a full Linux😉
Seeing this comment makes me sad because I have DeX too but I just found out that Linux on DeX got discontinued...
@@Breezy393. You can use the termux, andronix and vnc viewer method! I use it on my note 10 and it works pretty well- I use ubuntu xfce -xubuntu 20.04
I think this is kind of a biased video. Dex now supports UBUNTU INSIDE! We can now do programming and even open the full fledged Chrome (with Extensions!) therefore nullifying this comparison!
Regarding the Google Calendar Demo I think he should've opened the "Desktop Site". Would've resolves the weird UI / CSS issues.
The thing is DeX means not much future investments if you already own a monitor and keyboard/mice. A $60 DeX station for S8/S9/Note 8, or just a $15 HDMI cable would be sufficient in case of Note 9.
Carrying a phone with me is much easier than carrying a tablet/laptop.
What happens when you need to do work outside of where your monitor is? Or give a presentation? Or relocate to do group work?
Give me Windows Core OS. 🙂
All the old code is gone and Microsoft basically has what Chrome OS has, fresh new code to build an OS out of with no legacy things to worry about.
Check out NexDock. $250 and it turns your phone into a laptop with a 14" HD screen. Keyboard, TouchPad and charges phone while using it.
One device. Don't have to transfer files between. And best thing is, when you upgrade your phone you've just upgraded your laptop too.
Huawei phones offer the same Dex-like desktop experience.I use it everyday from my sofa; surfing the web, you tube etc. Love it!
But they are there to steal your credentials. I never trusted Chinese electronics.
@@Galm_1 where is your proof to back up your argument?
I have a Galaxy s8+. I bought a Dex along with my phone. There are many things that are great on the Dex, but what really killed it for me is that Netflix and VUDU dont go full screen.
I'm really hoping this, 'Campfire' project is launched this week so we can run Windows on a Chromebook. That's really the killer app this year.
I'm not sure if he has truly used DeX. This is one of the only videos I've even downvoted on RUclips. He says that DeX is always trying to open an application when clicking on links which is true, but many applications are scaled up to take advantage of the desktop experience.
And if you really don't want to open the application, remember you can turn that off (or have it ask what you want to do) in app settings and defaults.
I love DeX more
Your single solitary objection to Dex is you don't like the Chrome browser. Wouldn't it be incumbent on you to test all the browsers? Rejecting a whole device on the basis of one app without considering alternatives is stupid. As for pixel slate, why should I take a device seriously that can't decide whether it is Chrome or Android? Why should I take Google's strategy seriously when they can't extend it to phones? Why do I want a different phone experience to my tablet?
this guy answers a lot of questions in my mind, thank you!
It’s would be amazing if Google put chrome OS on pixel phones since android apps running so well on arm processor devices now.
what if they made a phone with chrome os
This was not a comparision. You were completely biased trying to make Dex look worse when in reality its better tha Chrome OS
samsung dex with horizon client is pretty good. Samsung Dex on its own is useless to me but with the horizon application, it becomes more of a plus.
Really great explanation and video! I love my s9+ and note 8 and look forward to the day that I can ditch my laptop and tablet.
i use dex like my main pc at home. If i want to play games, I use ps4 remote play works perfect. But for simple video edit or photo edit ,work, watching movies, and reading websites on a bigger screen this is perfect. And i dont need to transfer anything because everything is in my pocket!!!!!! thats future.
You can get a tab S4 and have a desktop experience (if you want to)
best would be, if Pixel 3 would turn into chrome os once i connect it to external monitor and keyboard/mouse
Cool mate, can't wait till you review the slate :)
From Dex you can start Linux Ubuntu and Booom !!! U have everything even steam for gaming from pc
there is no way your phone is powerful enough to run steam games. Linux games are not optimized for a phone hardware so fortnite would run way worse than the mobile version for example.
Are you actually that stupid to think that you can just download Steam and have a gaming pc on your phone?
Who remembers the Atrix from Motorola? It had a laptop dock you could mount your phone. Worked pretty well for what it was...Dex is GREAT, but who on earth has a computer monitor, keyboard and mouse just sitting at their house waiting on a computer? They need to come out with a dexbook or something, a laptop where you can insert your phone, and it becomes a laptop that also charges your phone.
It's called the Mirabook. I pre-ordered it.
I agree that for baic productivity, as in for a home user, a Chromebook is likely a fantastic idea. But that is not what DEX made for. Its made for someone who may travel a great deal that has no desire to drag along an oversized tablet or even a Laptop. You can plug a DEXDock (S8, S9, Note 8) or with a note 9 directly into any display with an HDMI input, have a bluetooth mouse and keyboard paired, and get right to work with most of the apps that are DEX compatable. Additionally, Chromebook was not as versatile when it started out, it was, as many have called it, a Browser Operating system. Now, Chromebooks are VERY capable machines, as I expect Dex will become with time. One MAJOR thing I have had issue withe on Chromebooks though is I have yet to use one that my Android Phone will connect to, as in, when I plug it into the Chromebooks USBport, it does not see it. Maybe I am missing a driver, but that I dont really worry about at this point because I am not planning on buying another one again. With DEX, once connected to a monitor with keyboard and mouse, I am using the phones computing power, which is pretty dang good, and I have no need to tether by cable or wifi to it for data, and all items on my memory are accessable. It is going to come down more to preference of the individual, not as much as which is better. Give DEX time to eveolve as Chromebooks have and you might be surprised.
I remember a couple years ago I bought jide's remix os tablet and I loved it to death. I used that tablet for everything. Can you please review the Acer spin 15 Chromebook? I'm considering this one as my first Chromebook. Thanks!
it's not even really the same thing, Dex is meant as a desktop emulation for phones, chrome OS has always been meant to be a cloud based desktop type experience, .
As always an interesting and quality video. Robbie, as a Web Designer/Developer which Apps/Software do you use for achieving this on your Chromebook?
loool I see what you did there
DEX is NOT an app. It is a virtual machine instance with a different shell/OS launcher and runs at a much lower layer than a typical app.
i will say this one been out for years and the other been out about two years give dex some time to work out the things in dex mode i hope Samsung add linux to the phone.