A Deep Dive into the Fire Emblem Heroes Iceberg
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
- Today I'm going over the Fire Emblem Heroes Iceberg, part 2! We're going to take an even deeper dive into some of the most obscure, forgotten, and controversial topics in the game's history. This chart was made with the help of my RUclips comment section on the first iceberg I did, so huge shoutout to everyone who helped contribute!
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"Dreaded artists" People don't want Eliwood/Athena's eyes to happen again, or to Resplandent Lucina's artist to "lolify" another character. There are more artists that people don't want to see make their favorites for a plethora of reasons
Remember when Say'ri didn't have an english voice when she first came out.
man lockdown was a strange time
A note:
The Byleth VA change was not actually due to the controversies circulating around the time, but rather because Chris broke his NDA and revealed himself as the VA before he was allowed to do so.
The context for him breaking the NDA is primarily what got spread around, I guess.
What meaning NDA?
@@LucianoAlighieri1 Non-disclosure agreement
@@Panda-xd5ey Ok, thank you.
Hubert VA broke NDA and he got away with it
Byleth VA breaking NDA is just a excuse to fire him
Trying to think of more so here's some and some I mentioned but weren't used:
* Saber and Joshua weapon swap conspiracy
* Artist Cuboon Spring Kagero "controversy"
* Racist Felix Forging Bonds
* Wedding Tharja movement glitch
* Fjorm A skill change (Atk/Def Unity to Mirror Stance 3)
* Changed VAs for post launch characters (Lucina, Camus, Olwen, etc)
maybe the ridiculously tiny Santa hat cut off some circulation to Felix’s brain
@@CGFillertext Lol
what was the entire story of Cuboon's Spring Kagero "controversy"
@@silver_stone6510 to much fan service for many and they whime about booba to big
I heard there was a controversy with Jorge being botted into the game back in CYL 4's GHB. Was it true?
Just wanna say that there actually was one more two-unit focus banner. Ogma and Robin's new power banner. Their refines were released with the whitewing sisters, so instead of having a five man banner, the split it up into 3 and 2.
On top of this, there was also the Hot Springs TT+ Banner with Leo & Takumi. Granted though this banner sucked
the missing Alondite glitch reminded me that after a certain update Nephenee's chibi lacked her skirt. I made a reddit post about it back then but I don't remember when exactly it happened.
Daichi’s story is sad to hear and a good reminder for everyone but every time I think of it I can only think of someone’s reply to the tweet where they were like “Dump his ass Daichi’s wife” fhrhfhdhd
Never forget the lore of all the Ascendant Fjorm's/Laegjarn's Tempest Trials. It's a certified Fate moment, apparently. 👀
Feh: I’ll allow polygamy, but only if you pay me first
That is how it happens IRL
You must have enough money to have multiple wives and provide for all of them
@@DaemonKrown I mean, unless it is an equal thing where everyone works together and provides for themselves and eachother. It doesn’t necessarily require only one person to be wealthy if everyone has equal standing
Hello! I loved this video and I would love to give my little contribution in case you're interested in making a sequel.
It's a lore/story mode related fact, but it's interesting nonetheless.
In short: I was reading the Book 4 script in Japanese and found out that some things were cut from the English translation due to being too gruesome (and possibly mentioning child a boss)
In chapter 9-4, when Lady Frejya is comforting Triandra about her time as a human previous to becoming a dark elf, she talks about how Triandra and Peony were left starved and exposed to the cold by their cruel step-father before Triandra killed him.
However, a line in the Japanese script cut from
the English (and as far as I checked, the Italian, Spanish and German versions as well) says that their step-father also used to "hit their faces" and as result, Triandra lost her eyesight in order to protect Peony from being beaten. [Which she couldn't tough; she believes her father killed Peony by beating her, because Peony had actually drank the dream nectar to become a light elf, so she killed him in retaliation].
So this might be the reason her right eye is concealed by her hair.
Pretty graphic stuff for a game about big tiddy fairies, uh.
Here is the original script from Japanese:
feheroes.fandom.com/wiki/Agony_of_Youth#Story
The part about byleth's VA change:you could actually hear Chris in feh for a couple days before a patch took him out of it
I’ve been playing since launch and I never realized how many battle modes and other have been forgotten or changed over time omg…I remember getting so hype when I got my first Camilla animation sighs
WOOOO I’ve been waiting for this since your first iceberg vid! I can’t tell you how many times I’ve rewatched that one, time to rewatch this one over and over again. Can’t wait to see your future vids man
I love when you're doing this sort of video they're really interesting 🙂 Great as always! And I didn't even realized B!Ike and B!Roy have some of their sentences because of Smash it's so great to learn info way after the addition of something💖
This is a very fun video! I didn't know about the red X glitch yet. The fact that resplendent lucina is at the bottom of the iceberg rather than more near the top, makes me think it's referring to the fact that the artist who drew resplendent lucina has also drawn similar childlike looking characters in skimpy outfits and people started harassing the artist over that and it basically became a huge moral discourse in the feh community for a few days. Not the best days to be in the fandom.
As a longtime fan of Yuji Himukai's work from the Etrian Odyssey games, I'm sincerely baffled that such a thing happened. Everyone tends to look pretty young in his artstyle, and the very primitive EO1 art especially was outright chibi (and frankly, not up to his current standards). As ever, internet discourse about presumed age is brain-rottingly idiotic.
To be fair, the artist HAS drawn legit lolicon in previous works. I don’t condone the harassment because that does literally nothing to remedy the situation, and the fact that people kept equating it to real child porn, which hurts REAL victims of CP. But personally it’s still a little skeevy and I wouldn’t really summon or use Heroes he’s drawn. Again, just a personal thing and I don’t expect other people to do the same, nor do I judge them.
Fr do we have to morally grandstand about everything Like bro i dont care i just like the art
perhaps the reason this connerzac guy is in the iceberg is because of his feh streams where he does his signature "do the mario" ability
something to add: surtur was so strong that IS stated that he will not appear to battle agaist, of course, aside from game modes where you fight a player made team
Thanks for the shout out! There were probably more that I could think of but thanks!
Nice video! Back when I used to play FEH one of my favorite glitches was the audio bug that would occur if you tried to open the game while playing other audio on your phone. It would make all the in game audio to play in a slower and deeper tone until you restarted the app. I wouldn’t be shocked if IS fixed this bug, but I hope it’s still present in the game. Hearing all the character’s glitched voice lines never failed to make me chuckle.
3:18 PM1 definitely paid him to say that
This video was great! I don’t know if anyone mentioned these but some stuff I thought would make good adds to an iceberg would be, the Quests and Missions menu saying you had a number of rewards in the little red diamond but they were actually feh pass only and you couldn’t get them, other leaks like Legendary Julia in the news menu screen, FEH owl voice actor change, and Jorge botted in CYL. That’s all have a nice day :)
I'm impressed the Arya banner and "Now I use the Reinhardt" weren't mentioned
ruclips.net/video/sb6epyZVYYs/видео.html
@@connerzac "Dreaded artists" some people do´t want certain artists to draw their favorite characters due to quirks from said artists, like Eliwood´s and Athena´s eyes, Robin´s and Jakob´s same face, and as shown in this video, Lucina´s lolification; just to name a few
@@davivanatorable dumb reasons, that lucina was cute and some people really jusy want to make up problems that dont exist
@@akiradkcn spittin
@@davivanatorable athena looks fine but eliwood...he haunts me
I remember that Berkut's lance was used a lot when Berkut was new, on other units than Berkut it seemed so strange that everyone was using his lance
Brave Camilla does look really good tho, despite she has way to much alts.
I did play way to much 3 Houses on launch and started with male Byleth. Byleth having another voice actor was a little strange, but i did get used to it quickly.
Another honorable mention would be the Rally+ skill glitch back when the Bridal Tharja banner was released where you could teleport the Rally+ unit off the face of the map and essentially soft lock yourself in a map with your only option to quit out of it.
some cool things i dont think have been mentioned
CYL 1 units being briefly random enemies in training tower / tempest trials etc for like a few days
green IVs for tharja / ny azura / ny camilla / valentines hector
green pixel on linus
narcian is the best whitewing sister (after he won a twitter poll for a free unit competing against est palla, and catria)
The SI glitch of 2018 or 2019 where if under certain conditions, your units would just lose skills they inherited, IS laid out what the cause was and then gave people hefty compensation by giving the 5* units or smth ppl had foddered and then lost said fodder for to effected people
Iceberg? That’s easy, it boosts your damage based on 50% of your res stat
Those iceberg videos are just so good.
Thanks.
I always wonder how FEH is doing these days.
I think the community has slowed down significantly over the last year.
Lots of FEH youtuber have become much less consistent and pages like reddit. I think thats a sad turn of event but also understandable
I remembered what really happened when 2019 summer banner with summer Laegjarn and stuff got leaked. They had to delay the banner trailer to the day of the banner due to an earthquake. Later that day, the banner got leaked.
Love the content, I subscribed! ^^
If you end up making a 3rd, some things that I would include
Dragalia Lost crossover: In 2019 and 2020, Dragalia Lost had crossover events with FEH, where you could get Alfonse, Marth, Veronica, and Fjorm in 19 and Sharena, Tiki, Peony, and Chrom in 20.
A!Tiki alts: While Young Tiki has gotten a large amount of Alts, her Adult form has only gotten 1 in the form of a summer alt in 2017. This has led to people wanting more alts of Adult Tiki, so much that she got #1 in CYL 2022 to "force" IS to give her one.
Winter Tharja/Robin: The images for them were discovered the day after launch, but we're released until Winter 2017
I love how i can hear you holding it in while saying “Anti Camilla Defense Force”
Always love a good iceberg!
Who remembers when we played against developer's teams?
I was surprised I knew almost all of these even though I haven’t been keeping up with the community these last few years, but i guess being a day one player helped
I've never played Smash other than the N64 one (due to poverty) so this is the first time I hear the famous Roy and Ike lines in their original form. That was a cool addition to their brave alts.
Hope you do another feh iceberg
12:16 I actually got this RECENTLY with the Legendary Caeda banner
It didn’t let me summon tho
I left around when Feh pass released, and it’s always weird to hear how much has changed since then.
The only thing I can remember that I think would fit really well here would be Ayra's release. Datamines were suggesting she was going to be a free unit aside from the other 4 units released but when the time came she was released on a banner with 2 older units as focus (one sharing her color lmao) it didnt help that she had like the best spd in the game and I think was the first SS unit
Katarina and Bunny Lucina were the first Swift Sparrow units though I forget which of those two came first
Yay!! Another one!!
Lucina's new design argument was total bullshit. It was gorgeous
Bro thats what im saying
I hate when people call it "shitty art" like i dont give a fuck if you dont like it but dont fuckin lie and call it shitty it is good looking art
Resplendent Lucina might be one of the best artworks in the entire game. Everything about it is wonderful from the coloring to the shading to her poses. It's really sad that just because Himukai's style portrays female characters as younger than usual angered so many people.
@@EinSilverRose They ain't even complaning about the right things. This mf used to drew CP but all they find to whine about is Lucina's height 🤨🤨 Come on that's crazy
I always love the meme with Olwen 0X4 because I use her on my Cav line and so many people fall for this trap, as they just leave any unit or try to tank her with a giant stat ball unit thinking they'll see 0X4 but instead they get a rude awakening when they see Olwen doing 32X4. Thanks for all the free kills
It was F Ninja Corrin who won the Voting Gauntlet where Duo Azura and Fallen Edel were, I remember being extremely frustrated for once again a Ninja Unit winning the voting, since Ninja Lyn was the most voted on the previous year.
The fact this iceberg even exists gives me life
3:20 He is my favorite Fire Emblem Heroes RUclipsr.
I skim through his summoning videos with seething hatred
Said it in the last iceberg but I wanna say here as well.
Another thing that happened in the games history was that in order for a unit to be promoted, they had to be at least level 20. Only then would they have the permission to be promoted.
Wasn't until later, I wanna say just before they introduced manuals, that they made it so there is no level requirement.
I just stumbled upon this and it's funny I haven't paid much attention to the game in the last year or so, but I'm very much in the deepest recesses of the iceburg. I talk about the $1000 Hector and Byleth VA changes whenever relevant with friends for example.
Ok, that was cheeky Mr ConnerZac
I'm pretty sure I remember having Byleth be voiced by Chris Niosi in-game for a brief period of time before it was hotfixed shortly after the banner released.
Also I'm surprised that you only really covered that the resplendant Lucina art was panned mostly for its childlike depiction and not as much about the history of the artist that created it and how that stirred even more controversy.
Another one I can think of is the brief period of time that some units had visible boons before boons/banes were supposed to be visible. Instead of the name of the stat showing up in blue text like it is today, the color of the stat number itself was green. Don't remember every unit that had this quirk, but I know for certain that at least New Years Camilla did, so it was units released around that time. This was supposedly a bug, but something tells me they were testing how to make that information presentable and forgot to switch it off before releasing some characters.
The first winter banner was leaked before the game was released. Or at least Winter Tharja, I don't remember well.
If you do another one of these I would mention that the Scythe of Sariel uses axe animations despite being a lance, and additionally, dark creator sword is (I believe) the only weapon name too long to fit in the UI and was shortened to dark creator s. Another fun one is that you used to have to level heroes to 20 before increasing rarity.
Oh and farfetched heroes
Others i remember:
0 xp and sp on death
Resonant battles 3 tries (tho not sure if you mentioned it on the last vid)
I vaguely recall this but I remember sacred seals were hard to refine back in the day but don't remember why
Bounty skills
GHB costing stamina and story maps scaling stamina cost
Not sure if this is in the FEH Iceberg, but only the real OGs remember Mkv.
There is one super obscure easter egg, that I randomly found out. Turns out, FEH devs used a png of Persona 2's protagonist Tatsuya as a placeholder for where the unit's art shouuld be
11:04
I got Legendary Lyn... twice.
the probability of this happening was extremely low.
The real, real controversy with Resplendent Lucina, is that the artist in question has made lol*con doujinshi. A portion of the community really wanted Nintendo to stop collaborating with this artist for a very long time now because of that.
The fact that he made Resplendent Lucina's art only made the situation with the already existing dislike towards that artist worse.
Many of the artists who have done art for FEH have drawn all kinds of hentai. Heck Homura Fool drew Eremiya who has drawn his fair share of messed up hentai and no one was up in arms over his art's inclusion. The disrespect and hatred towards Himukai was unwarranted.
@@EinSilverRose I honestly don't really know what to think about it because it's sadly a common way to get big into the industry. Draw porn of any kind and there's a high chance you will struck gold.
This was a fun dip into FEH history. Remember when Android FEH users got a free 4* Female Corrin? Or when Summer Adult Tiki had her art altered to be less lewd? Or when Dancer Inigo was kind of meta bc he could counter Reinhardt and Brave Lyn while also having dancer utility? Mustafa is the only male (I think) with visible nipples in his art. Base Sonya's backwards foot. Rebeccas nonexistent bow string. Summer Lillina got an art update after the launch of the banner at the request of BUNBUN the artist. Dipsh*t Alfonse memes. Farfetched banners stopping 2, presumably to keep more popular characters available to be anchors for new hero banners. Halloween Nowi controversy. That's all I can remember rn.
Edit: Sakura guy who did clears of stuff with just +10 Sakuras
Thinking of those quality of life improvements. I'd be happy to get a "back" button or an "edit team anytime" button.
6:40 soooo anyone gonna talk about Summer Edelgard…
Two things that I found that are quite interesting...
Radiant Dawn hasn't received a New Heroes Banner in over 3 years, with its last New Heroes banner featuring Caineghis, Ranulf, Lethe and Mordecai.
And the other thing I found; despite the fact that she rightfully deserves to win CYL 7, not enough people are willing to vote for Heather from Radiant Dawn for CYL 7.
Wow, I started playing in late 2020, didn't know there was so much, um, drama surrounding the game. Knowing that some guy spent $1K and still didn't get 100% of the characters makes me feel better about my 63%.
YOOOOOO LET'S GO
Clarisse's Bow and Legion's Axe are both weapons from New Mystery of the Emblem tho
Apparently Resplendent Lucina's artist is the same artist who made the Etrian Odyssey characters (Yuji Himukai). Yuji is also a hentai artist
4:18 chad A Hat in Time music choice
The Edelgard thing really is true. Lost to Rhea in the first round of the recent Dueling Darkness gauntlet LMFAO
the reason why a lot of people didn't wanted camilla for CYL 3 was because Camilla was the character with the most alts of the whole game by far. she had like 6 or 7 alts when the 2nd best one had probably like 4 or 5 alts at best, not because they specifically hated camilla.
I'm surprised you didn't mentioned the "Anime project success" written on Brave Lucina's lance
ohhhhhhhh that would have been a good one. Did we ever figure out what it meant???
@@fops I guess it was either cancelled or it was just a prank since we had no news about it since 2018
this is decently recent, but elincia's va changed, and im very curious why. i know why va changes like lucina happened, but im curious for elincias va
WAIT DEEPER?!?!,!?
3:26 hell yeah
I just want three different Manuelas to build a team
I'm surprised Ayragate didn't make it.
Its in the other iceberg video he made
That Lucina looks like an Etrian odyssey character
It’s actually the same artist for Etrian Odyssey that did Resplendent Lucina
@@soulraichu8163 No wonder it gave me EO vibes!
pretty sure people didnt want camilla because her insane amount of alts already in game, thats why trolls wanted to vote her
5:06 I didn't think that level was that hard(them again, I don't play maddening)
Also to note: FEH changing sprites/art of characters that were already released to be more “accurate” Eg hatari Leanne and, recently announced, Plegia Tharja
Also not sure if this is iceberg worthy but I saw a person on reddit who was put into orb debt after trying to +10 Constance on the Abyss banner and instead got like 20 Muspell copies. Then they refunded those orbs and got into like a
When you say "accurate", do you mean censorship?
I really hated the Camilla thing as a genuine fan of hers. At the time, the angry people were acting as if she never would have won if it weren't for those troll votes despite her always ranking high. And I got into several arguments where people were trying to explain how voting just for Camilla to win isn't the same thing as voting for Micaiah just for her to lose, even though that is quite literally the exact same situation. They were trying to seem morally right. The Fire Emblem fandom is always like this.
Anyway, I waited years for her to win and when it was finally her turn, the whole thing just sucked so bad. Sad times
Where is Jorge getting into feh because of a bot?
Damn no 1sp week grind for one skill lmao
sidenote the resplendent lucina situation is much worse when you consider the artist is a lolicon
Plenty of artists who have done artwork for feh draw their fair share of obscense hentai. Himukai is not an outlier as many of the artists simply draw whatever they want.
People are lame, the Resplendent Lucina art is good
It's absolutely fantastic.
Yep the time when we couldn’t choose and got legendary lyn did us in so bad I was so pissed off I complain a lot but at the moment I hate aether raids and the horse meta we have we so need a movement ploy to stop horses in aether raids.
ConnerZac :)
i feel like honorable mentions would be like, Bridal tharja rally gitch, restart ghb sp glitch, forgetting inheritable skills, and ascended ishtar (?) having a dummy tome if you unequip it
Lmao good screw edleguard
Since the relese of this Video Edelgard lost another voting gauntlet
Man maybe I should play fire emblem hero, but the story's just seemed meh
Voting gauntlets often made no sense to me... it had adjusted rates for the losing one. Like what? Is that how voting works? Is that how Biden won the election lol cuz he was losing and got adjusted rates? If you didn't vote Camilla in voting gauntlet idk what's wrong with you. Next was when I finally got the chance to summon for zelgius and how disappointing it was when I thought yeah he going to steam roll anything except for maybe mage units. Sheesh what a disappointing time...
This is like a facts video.
A lot of the posts about resplendent lucina were more of a smear campaign than anything else, such as the obligatory conflating of loli with children without giving real proof. In fact, that IS how adults look in the EO artstyle.
The absolute hatred and vitriol that was directed to Yuuji Himukai was just sad. He's an amazing artist and so many people simply don't understand that his art style makes female characters appear younger when within the context of his own, Resplendent Lucina looks like a young adult woman. He's a very talented artist and is very capable of all kinds of depictions of male and female characters whether they are young, adult or old. He simply has an affinity to draw cute anime girls.
Also, just because he draws NSFW lolicon art isn't grounds to slander him or crusade to have Nintendo stop working with him. Many other artists who have done art for FEH draw all kinds of NSFW art but he was simply singled out because he drew Lucina in the way he draws young women. You'd be surprised by the stuff many of the artists have drawn that the same people who attacked Himukai would also find in poor taste.
I mean we're talking about FE community here, bunch of hypocrite assholes
Edelgard can't win a AHR voting gauntlet? Good. Lets keep it that way.
I wanna add for the Lucina Resplendent that the artist is known for making, uh, well, a certain genre of anime art that includes female characters who look just like children in "certain" situations, which only fueled the hate for the Lucina art and makes all his art 100% weirder with this context and the fact he makes every character look like a child.
Actually this artist is hated by a big part of the community, which makes me wonder why Intsys or Nintendo haven't taken him out yet, probably there's a contract or something of the sort.
Or more likely, because a few idiots on twitter aren't actually 'a big part of the community,' and because the vast majority of the artists in FE heroes have drawn a ton of weird porn.
"I dont like em take him out!" Bruh grow up its business