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Fender Mustang III & IV - FAQ: Answered by Shane
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- Опубликовано: 1 фев 2014
- This video covers all the questions I've been getting in regards to the Fender Mustang Amplifiers (III & IV) on RUclips, Facebook, Google+ and Twitter. I broke the video down into sections in hopes it will make things easier on deciding which amplifier is right for you and my opinions about each amp for home, at a gig, for portability and overall sound and tone.
If I missed anything feel free to post your comments and questions below and I will reply to your questions.
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I have gigged the Mustang 4 in good sized venues including an outdoor gig to a field of 1400 people. We didn't need to mike the amp as the volume and sound quality are outstanding. Everyone who hears the amp is amazed when they discover that it is digital.I play it with a Gibson Les paul studio and it sounds very powerful the bottom end is unreal and it plays just like valves under your fingers. I can't fault mine in anyway although it would be nice if the two button footswitch had lights. I use both the 4 and the 2 buttons and its easy to get confused with settings, a small screen on pedal would be even better. Cheers
if you are going to be purchasing a mustang, just spend a little extra cash and go with the IV.
having 2 12 inch speakers gives you that deep range of lows that you cant get out of 1 12.
Shane, I followed all your vids on the Mustang before buying. All I can say is THANK YOU for providing simple no-nonsense informative vids showing what these amps are capable of. I bought a M III and 4 button footswitch late 2014 and have gigged with it ever since. Who would have thought such a relatively cheap amplifier could produce such convincing sounds? Plus my set up and tare down times are so much quicker. Thanks again mate keep up the good work.
take care of your back! I had to have fusion surgery at L4-L5-S1 and it didn't go well... I ended up permanently disabled at age 38. It's been 10 years and I still walk with a cane. Modelling is definitely friendly to bad backs!
8 years later how’s your back bro I have 2 herniated discs L3-L-4, L4-L5 pinched nerve at L5 S1 I’m permanent too at 24
@@captainbongwater8469 wow, you are too young for this burden! Mine's still terrible, but sitting around makes it feel even worse, so do as much as you can without injuring yourself even more. Getting outside walking, hiking, etc.,(and fishing!) as best you can, bring a chair so you can take a break as needed... and don't beat yourself up if you can't do something like you used to. It's frustrating enough without being mean to yourself for something you have no control over. Go at YOUR pace.
@@TonyHookedonVanlife Hey thank you for your reply, thats very nice of you and that’s exactly what I needed to hear! Things definitely aren’t easy but you’re right, sitting around makes it worse. I plan to do a lot more of all 3 of those this spring and summer! I enjoy riding a motorcycle too, but I really have to ease into it this year as this most recent flare up was incredibly bad. All you can do is keep faith and keep pushing forward. Thank you very much!
@@captainbongwater8469 no problem, glad to help. I printed up a picture I took of a trail going into the woods at a lake in North Carolina(I looove the outdoors) & I put on there "Today I will do what I *CAN* do."
@@TonyHookedonVanlife that’s a good reminder. A lot of people don’t know what it’s like, but at the end of the day as long as I’m able to do things that make me happy, it’s all worth it. I have got to hike more this season.
I picked up a used Mustang 3 V2 ,with the 2 button switch and Wow ,why did I not have one of these earlier?..What I like the most is the all the Fender amps to choose from, and cab simulation, I also like the 59 deluxe, but go for the super Sonic often..from clean to heavy, it's amazing the range of these amps, I'm running stereo with a Katana 100. You would not believe how awesome the tone in stereo. Thanks for the awesome reviews on these amps! Fender owes you!
As an owner of a Mustang III, Shane I have to agree with your observations of these amps. I intend on putting a speaker outlet on my Mustang III so I can see how my 2 x 12 cab sounds. I totally agree with Pete Bobkat that these amps do model valve/tube amps well and I'm also amazed at their sonic potential!
Dead on accurate on your assessment of the III versus the IV. I'm happy to see someone out here that's obviously knowledgeable on amps and isn't a tube snob. I've been into modeling amps for a few years now and they really do make the working musician's life a LOT easier. One thing that would be of benefit to a lot of folks is a tutorial on how to best use the Fender Fuse software and how that can simplify the initial setup on these amps by exploiting the public library of tones people have contributed. The complexity of all of the choices on these amps is one thing that puts people off, but if they understood how simple Fender has made it they might reconsider.
One of the worse problems I've had with the III, is that I can't stop playing it.
I finally got it. I just hooked the foot switch up incorrectly. I ran RC3 through the back like you told me the first time and it works. I can keep my original loop and can mode over it.
Thanks man
I have loved these videos. The blind tests have been amazing and have fooled me. I am a proud owner of a Mustang III and have been gigging with it for almost a year now. I really want the V.2. There are some great features on the newer models. I will say this though, when gigging with the amp I have the model volume on 9 or 10 and when you push the master above 4 you get a great tube like "dirt". I use the twin and the bassman almost exclusively on this amp. I play at church every Sunday as well as classic rock and blues on Friday and Saturday nights. My strats just sound terrific through this baby. Looking forward to any more posts from you with this amp.
Hi Aaron. So good to hear that you're gigging with the M3. If I ever get to that stage of being able to play for others it's good to know the M3 is up to it. My fave amp sound is the 65 Twin. So sweet on the clean settings. I also like the Brit Watts & Bassman. Great amp & exceptional value. My only gripe with it is the presets seem to be in the wrong order so I grouped all mine together so all my Twins are sequential, then all the Bassmans sequential etc. If I was gigging I'd just customise a preset for each song then list what numbers they are and choose as required. Or I'd dump the presets to the amp in the set list order and make a few notes. Let me know if you've got any video's of you anywhere and I'll have a look.
Will do. I don't have anything but pics to share at the moment. BTW, I highly recommend that you get the 4 button foot switch for when you do gig out. It has made a world of difference for me
Aaron Henning Hi Aaron. I do have the 4 button switch. I used to have a G-Dec 30 and a 4 button switch for that which works with the M3. Well worth having too.
People don’t forget, using the Fuse software you, how the choice of different Cabs, 2x12 , 4x12’s . Ect....i think there’s 12 different Cabs. I’m enjoying not worrying about tubes, or different electrical issues at different places. They sound the same everywhere.
Absolutely superb, real world insight ! Thanks !
Thanks! :)
This is probably a silly question but do you have anything else running through the virtual effects loop on the mustang? Hook it up to a computer and see if anything else is doing anything weird in the chain. I would start there and see how you go. Also make sure the connections to the amp are in properly because they might only be in 3/4 of the way by accident?
haha good stuff mate, glad you fixed it :-) Thanks for the kind words too man. Always start with the cables and power supply units I have seen so many folks think their pedals died when their psu has fried :-)
I have both the Mustang III, and the IV. The IV sounds way better even at low bedroom volumes. As he said in the video the IV has a much fuller sound.
This is great Shane. Thank you so much for putting so much time and effort into your channel. Your channel has become my favorite for music because of your dedication to your audience. Keep the videos coming! Thanks again.
I got mustang 3 v2 for less than 200€, and I love it!
I have a Mustang I and II for an apartment, but now I wish I got the III or IV if they sound good at low volumes.
One thing I'd mention in my experience is that for home and light jamming use more speakers sounds better at lower volume - the fuller sound and presence kicks in even if if's not cranked.
I have a V head here and the matching 4x12 because closed-back works better for multi-stuff use (including my Bass VI), as well as my venerable Jazz Chorus and 10 year old or so Hot Rod Deluxe.
I have a couple patches that are so close to the HRD I can't tell which is which unless I note it on the track's recording log.
Thanks for the Q&A on the Mustang III and IV. I was sold on the III until I figured in the additional price of the 4 button switch. It'd only be $110 difference if I went with a IV. Not bad considering you get 2x12's instead of one.
Absolutely love the III. Best home amp I've ever had. Not a fan of it after it's turned up past 5 though.
Shane,
Thanks so much! That answered all of my questions, .......plus some I hadn't considered. Really appreciate the time and effort that goes into all of your work.
Cheers
Neil.
ps I too have a Tokai 335 ( ES155). I'd love to see a bit more of it with a Mustang.
@intheblues Shane, by far, IS the best Mustang amp demonstrator ! I honestly believe Fender should be paying you loads of money as your videos must effected their sales boosting it by huge percentage !
Do you think S.R.V tones will sound better in 2x12 ?
I was convinced to get a EVH 5150 pedal ($200)...then realized that the Mustang 3 was WAY more gear for the money ($300)! So many sounds and I didn't want all the fuss or hit and miss with $300 worth of pedals! To me, pedals is a chore to tweak and has cables everywhere! I want 1 amp that gets all teh sounds and take to any room or take to friends and not worry about 5-6 pedals and cables. When I want a special sound, I plug into my 50w tube amp! I am officially done with pedals!
The 2 or 4 button works on both the 3/4 amps.
One thing nobody mentions is how close the buttons are on the four button pedal. For those of us with big feet, it makes it really hard to select just one button without accidentally hitting another and changing everything. I might have to go back to separate pedals just because of this.
I've been watching your videos for a while now and I gotta say the work you've done is just great. It's VERY helpful, and I'm sure a lot of people around the world really appreciate it. If you don't mind, I'd like to make a request. Would you please do a video explaining how the mustang (III in my case) gets along with pedals? I know it's not the best amp to use pedals with, but I'm really interested in knowing how good high gain pedals (boss metal core and marshall jackhammer in my case) can sound through a mustang, and how to get it right. I already saw the one about the tubescreamer, but that was more or less a comparisson betwen that one pedal and the integrated effect it emulates, right?. I haven't been able to find a setting that nails the use of high gain pedals in a live situation so far, and I want to believe this can be done. Some people say it's impossible, some people say it's not. So I say: who but you to clear this out? Thank you so much!
Excellent stuff mate. Thank you.
I've had the opportunity to play through the III and IV side by side. The III is more glassier and more defined, whereas the IV is a bit too muddy for my taste - especially with humbuckers. Actually to a point where I wonder if there is something not right. Anyone had a similar experience.
i have both of these amps and you just helped me decide which one im selling. thank you great info
In the vid you mentioned the sound differences between the III and the IV. (The IV having a fuller sound, more bass/bottom end, handling the multi-speaker amp sounds better, etc.)
Would you see any of these benefits / improvements in sound range if you plugged the Mustang III into a venue's PA system via the XLR ports in the back?
My Fender Mustang III problem, when playing for quite longer time, sound suddenly turn off and have to stop before the sound comes back and turn off again...may I have your solution please?
You are the only one answering questions for this new amp I got. The mustang is good, but I'm trying to set my solo in one tone and my cord progression in a different tone. How can I have two different effects? I have the boss rc3
Good amp and yes loud. I haven't went past three and I have my own house I feel like the neighbors are going to call the cops.
You gotta plug your boss pedal through the fx loop on the back of the anp
Will an effect pedal work for the mustang 3? Will I have any issues with the same sound. I think the Boss ME 50 is what I'd like to purchase. Is it really needed?
Thanks
So the III does things better than the IV and vice versa. Modelling-wise I think it's safe to say they're the same. So wouldn't it make sense to go with the V head and use whatever cabs fit best for the sound you're seeking (or the space you have in your car or on stage, or whatever fits the venue)?
Unfortunately though, I think the V head is way bigger than it has to be, just to fit with the Mustang cab. I'd have bought it if it was smaller.
There's always the Fender Floor...
Does anyone know if it's possible to use one of the distortion stomp boxes and also use the expression pedal as a wah wah at the same time. I've got a killer lead sound I'm happy with using a compressor rack, stereo tape delay rack and an overdrive stomp box. I would like to introduce wah using the expression pedal but it looks like I cant run an overdrive and a wah at the same time?? Am I wrong thanks.
A video on the EXP1 Expression Pedal would be great. Not much info on that online. Having trouble to get a descent wah with it. It does like an on-off with no variation in between.
Serge Comeau Try to Google instructions for calibrating the pedal. It looks like you are not using the full range.
great video, I play every weekend and needed good info and you helped me alot !
intheblues have you ever played the MUSTANG 2??? it´s seems a good choice to even better portability and smaller clubs.
I been wondering about the mustang 2 also. I do like the 3 n especially 4 for the reasons he listed n the lcd display makes setting up amp models with effects a lot easier the Mustang 1 n 2 fit my budget Right now I'm leaning towards the 2 as its 1x12 with 40 watts rather than 1x8 at 20 watt.
Nice, quality and thoughtful review! Thanks.
Awesome explanations of the amps! Thank you.
I've found the headphone sound quite "small"..on the Mustang 3. Maybe it's the headphones, not sure..Besides that, Mustang is just one hell of an amp.
Great explaination!
thanks TJ :-)
Ok i am wandering or more people experiencing this with the Fender mustang 4 v.2. With distorted sounds i get this audio feel instead of a cabinet feel... you get these high frequencies in your guitar sound which should not be there.
i guess the cabinet emulation is the problem in combination with the speakers in the 4 but i 'm gona try to eq it with my boss gt10 in the fx loop and cut it of at say 8Khz
Anyone else is experiencing this?
Do the mustang amps sound good with pedals?
I have a big muff pi and I want to purchase more pedals separately. I like the amp modelling but not the digital pedals. so that is my concern...
I use my mustang IV with effects pedals . It sounds good.
Hi Shane-- I have watched your in the blues series and enjoy your comments. I am looking to buy a Mustang IV in the near future. Do you like the software (Fender and recording) that comes with the amp? Have you used the software for recording? Also-- how many hours and how many days a week do you play in the clubs? Does your hand ever cramp up? If so, do you do any stretching exercises? Any comments would be appreciated. Keep posting the videos! They are great! Do you have any blues chord progression or teaching videos? Thanks! -Mark
Io li ho entrambi, il Mustang V4 è gagliardo e delicato
I am trying to setup a sound similar to Hank Marvin could you help please. I also would like to find a setting for a 12 string sound if possible.Thankyou
Good points Shane. Much appreciated....
Cheers :-)
Thanks Shane brilliant video as always very informative 👍👍
I have the mustang 3 what's the best way to run pedals through it I have
Mxr micro chorus
Mxr 78 bad ass
RV 5 boss
Baby wah
Mxr OD/ boost and a mooer green mile. Reason I ask is I've being getting a bad buss when I switch to some presets on the amp and then back to the pedals. Any help would be great. Keep the videos coming. Thanks John from Ireland. 👍🇮🇪
shane, I can't decide between the iii & iv. I like the sound of my traynor ycv40 but need something with head phone capability and sounds good a low volume for home use. I play mostly slow blues with a 335 style guitar. what's your thoughts?
Really enjoyed your thoughts on these.
thanks Craig
love mine....i re wired to a 2 12 cab...the speaker it came with started buzzing.../...going out.....sounds much better....now.......i need 4 switch so i can see presets.....for sure.....much love..thanx...Tee with LIONS NAMED LEO
I'm thinking of buying the Fender Mustang 3, but is it possible to add a foot pedal? I'm thinking of buying lovepedals super six Steve mod.
Thanks for this vid, Shane. I'm a subscriber and your videos are very helpful. So, I thought I would come to you with this question:
I've had my Mustang III for only a few days now and I love it. And controls are really easy to use.
But I don't understand many of the terms used in some presets, like "plate reverb" and other terms like "tape delay" and "simple compressor."
Is there somewhere I can go in the forums to get a glossary of terms? On the Fender site? RUclips? I really want to have a better idea of how this all works but I feel lost.
How about you doing a RUclips video on this?
Thanks.
Ed
good review Shane.was stuck on going for blackstar ,line 6 etc.think ill be heading for the mk 4. i use an old quad plus at present, which i need for the muli head echo. does the mk 4 have fx send/return,as i use insert cables at the mo.cheers..steve
I know they're solid state, but how well does the Mustang III take drive pedals? I have a Blackstar LT Dual.
Hi, Shane. I've read a few reviews stating that the signal briefly drops the instant you hit the footswitch to change channels. Have you found this to be an issue?
where can I find audio examples of these amps recorded by the direct out with speaker sim and all???? I need one for silent recording.
Awesome insights, thank you! Might just go for the IV instead of the III now, due to our band taking on new gigs, one being outside in June. Also, need and want the low end.
I'm wondering how plugging into the actual cabinet that the model is would effect the tone?
Very clarifying!
Thank you!!
Hello Shane, thanks for the video it's great!, I have a question, do you have any thoughts on using the FX loop section of mustang IV amp? I mean if it's a generic one as you would expect from any other amp or any special detail or trick for it? Greetings!
As always, many thanks!
Shane, your videos are causing me to have a religious conundrum. I'm very, very seriously considering offloading my Hot Rod Deluxe (modified with a new baffle to house a 12" cannabis rex AND a 10" eminence legend, it really smokes) and most of my pedals and getting a Mustang IV. I'm actually losing sleep over this. I've had various vintage and modern tube amps and have ALWAYS been a tube-only guy, but you're screwing up my life, man! WHAT DO I DO!?
It sounds like you need to keep the amp you've worked hard to modify if you ask me. Check these mustangs out second hand see if you can budget for both instead of selling one you like. Test them out first, but they totally rock. One of my best friends uses a Mustang III as his main amp now (Brian from the live clips of the amp). I would suggest playing if you can before hand, before you make a sell all decision. If you can keep the one you have, then having a Mustang IV as an option is awesome man.
intheblues Thanks for the speedy response! I've decided that I'm getting a IV second hand some day. I see multiple V1 examples available but think I'll wait for the V2 to become available.
intheblues I took one of my best fellow guitar playing buddies in the store who admitted he was skeptical. We only had a Mustand 3 V2 in the store to tinker with, BUT we had the added bonus of having, right beside it, a brand new Super Sonic 22, Deluxe Reverb, Princeton Reverb, and a Twin Reverb. I compared it to each of the amps by making sure both amps had their knobs set identical to one another, and I'll be damned if my friend's eyes didn't jump out of his head. He quickly became a believer.
I've decided to get rid of my hot rod deluxe and just stick with a Mustang, as I'm a 1 amp kind of guy. I just can't make up my mind between a 3 or a 4! If it's a 3, I can take my hot rod straight in and trade for a brand new one. If it's a 4 I have to try and trade second hand, which could take a while. I've read the 3 is plenty loud, but I don't know if I would crave that thick low-end thump of a 2 speaker setup or the stereo effects on the IV.
Brian Carroll Hey Brian. Sounds to me like you need the 4 after this excellent review by Brian. I have a 3. I got it after selling my G-Dec 30 on Ebay which I got really good money for too so selling secondhand isn't a real problem. If you can handle the extra size and weight of the 4 go for it. The line outs on the 3 are 2 channel by the way too.
Shane, love these videos. You are doing a great service for many people who are learning to play, and to acquire gear. Just wondering if you have you done any recording with the Mustang III v2 using the XLR outputs?? I'd be curious as to how you found it? Thanks for what you do!
I would have got one of these but the foot pedal seemed like it would be slow to use live
Thanks Shane.
Shane, if I plug an mp3 into the Mustang iv, will the sound come out of the speakers stereo or mono?
Hello , I'm entres Fender Mustang III V2 or Marshal code , can help ?
Thank you!
You should work for Fender, I just ordered a Mustang III.......thanks.....
Roland has sold over 1 million of their ubiquitous Cube amps. How about a comparison twixt the Mustang 3 and the similarly priced Cube 80 X/ or GL .
***** Thanks ! Good input.
Very informative... THANKS!!
oh, and thank you for this :)
No worries, Jaka. Thanks for the comments. :)
Hi Shane, just a quick question. I want to use my mustang 3 as a speaker only and use my pod hd500 for modelling.. how to bypass the mustang? Thanks :)
Simon Kristoffer if you have the Mustang(III) V2, Make sure you have the latest update. You can now bypass all modeling by going through the effects loop. I had my Firehawk hooked up that way for a while.
thanks bro.. just did that and yes the amp bypassed using 4CM.. now I want to know if I can use the XLR out on my mustang still connected to my pod?
Does the built in audio interface could do such a good job as a scarlett 2i2 ? Or will it be better if I use the scarlett?
scarlett
Thank you..well done.
Is there a way to get a looper pedal (boss rc-3) to work with the mustang 3? I've been trying..haven't figured it out yet.
i was interested in the same thing, havent got a mustang yet but you should plug the pedal in the effects loop so it goest after the effects
George Luca thanks.
how exactly do I update the fx loop to use looper pedals ,,?
really helped a lot, god bless you!
can mustang 3 be connected into mixer ?
Is the other guitarist in your band going to ditch his now overpriced Bandmaster, considering the tones between that and the Mustang are almost discernible?
Still trying to set my loop groove under a different effect than my solo. I plugged the Boss RC3 through the back but it still changes with the effect modules. Matter of fact my front line in stops and I can't hear the guitar. Someone drop me some step by step. Thanks.
I think there is a setting on the amp for the effects loop, take a look. if I remember its under the same menu as the footswitch options...
Does the 4 do Marshall sounds well?
does the iii have a line out for a 2 x 12 cabinet?
Line out is XLR. I think you meant to say speaker out? It doesn't have that, but it's an open back and the cable is right there. Easy mod.
I have to disagree with you a bit - barring the screen the speaker on the III is not as nice as the II - I would go for Mustang II for home :)
I don't have the II. I only own the III and the IV. These are questions I get about those two in particular ;)
The II is a great home amp, but I am only going off my experience with the two I own.
intheblues
Yeah, I realize I came across like a douche - :) Out of the two :)
I have the MIII - and I don't like the sound as much as I did the II - especially the Dlx reverb - I will probably install a switched speaker out jack onto my MIII just to test it with other speakers :) - and like you, I still use my tube amps much more - I can't be sure why they feel better, but they do.
Jaka Jarc nah dude, all good :) Just explaining the video.
Jaka Jarc You might be able to change what Cab setting you have on your Dlx Rev for a sound that's more appealing to you.
gavin jones
Yes, I have done that as well, and you're right. I find that the III sounds very nice, but has to be at a certain loudness to get the speaker moving.