I feel like when you talked about being tired or not wanting to explore because it was either TOO much, or it was just something way too similar to everything else. It’s great to find things on your own when exploring, but I think everybody is hyping up what is there. This map isnt entirely made in a way where it’s “if you look somewhere and go there, something is most likely there” which is flat out a lie and I’ve wasted hours just riding on horseback to irrelevant places on the map. It made me not want to explore, and then when I explored and found things, it was literally just a dungeon or something that i’ve already done earlier before, or something that I didnt want to do at all. TLDR I feel the open world isnt as cool or as rewarding to explore as people say in my opinion.
Thank you glad someone feels the same way. With Bloodbourne finding a side boss was not a regular occurrence so it felt special. Elden Ring has really helped me understand what I enjoy from exporation which finding unique things. the only time exploration was Good was when finding quests but with size of the world it was rare to find due to only having a small number.
@@John-996 yo facts. If it wasnt for me having somebody in my stream to tell me what I had to do and where to go for the dectus lift I think I would’ve never found it. Same goes with side quests. I didnt even finish Ranni’s side quest because I had no idea wth was going on or why I was doing it. The most straight forward side quest (and only other side quest i did) was the one in the volcano manor in order to get a key to fight Rykard.
The problem is Elden Ring is just not a good open world game. There are many great open world games like the Elder Scrolls series & Witcher 3, these games are genuinely fun to explore for the first time playing plus they have great replay value. Elden Ring doesn't.
I didn't know how to find locations on the map so I spent a lot of time riding in circles not finding anything. And when I did find a side dungeon, I didn't find them that rewarding in terms of runes or loot. Maybe if I knew the glovewort was useful for upgrading idk. But I ended up fighting Margit when I was maybe a bit weaker than I should have, but I didn't rush to him like people defending the game claim. I had been wandering around and I also didn't upgrade my weapons that much bc the shards seems very scarce and hadn't even found enemies to farm drops like previous games. I hadn't found that mine right near the beginning of the game since like I said I didn't know how to read the map.
The rolling spam is getting a bit dated, if they're gonna speed up enemies and up the aggression that's fine, but it still feels like the player is in 2011 while the enemies are in 2022, the dodging should be more reactive to what kind of attack is happening, just rolling through flurries of spinning swords looks and feels a bit silly by now. (The i frames system is great not saying to change it just needs to be updated in their next one imo)
Been saying this for years. Dark Souls 2 tried fixing this and the entire fan base had a panic attack because they had to actually move out of the way of attacks…you know… *perform a dodge*
@@tracymorgansbelly3322 I don't think you've understood the point being made. The fact that you consider something as simple as jumping in these games as a "new mechanic" is kind of the point. Games have let you jump for a very long time and it's not a viable dodging option vs the vast majority of attacks. Roll is still more easily spammable even against horah loux's earthshaker.
It’s more of when people are impressed by how creative game is and how it’s that and this when it’s just dark souls but with open world and some new things.
Open world, but world where almost everything is trying to kill you. Capital .. capital of what? undead, monster and hostile creatures? This world has no "life", and this became terribly tiring with time. In Gothic series or The Witcher there was a lot of normal inhabitants, villages and cities. There is only overwhelming hostility which is growing as you progress through the game. Not for me.
The unable to summon at the final boss is cause those summon signs get used the second they’re down so u have to get one like right as it appears. I been helping there and when I put my sign down I get summoned in seconds
Tried to summon for help but it always failed so after what must have been at least 25 tries I finally did it by myself today...... when I equipped the talisman for protection against holy damage I managed to get in the final hit on the elden beast and I had like a millimetre of life left.
He claims he beat all the Souls games, and then things that happen in every single Souls game surprised him when it happened in Elden Ring. I'm not convinced he has beaten any of the Souls games. He played Elden Ring and knew it was easy click bait content to say the game was trash.
@@ronperreault8889 imgur.com/gallery/sZwaARh Order from top to bottom is Dark Souls Prepare to Die, Dark Souls 2, Dark Souls 3, and Sekiro. Now take a seat.
There's a seriously weird thing happening right now that the masses seem to latch on to lackluster things in media and blindly praise them and try to silence anyone that goes against the grain. Dark souls was awesome because it was a new exciting challenging concept but too many damn things are just souls formula now. Every single fromsoftware game is just a souls clone and even other developers instead of creating new characters for a new game are dragging their awesome characters into stupid souls clones. Darksiders and especially God of war have unfortunately gone through this. Even mentioning that some other studio could create the old god of war formula while Santa Monica studio works on their souls clone version seems to upset people to a severely weird degree. I'm not saying I hate the souls formula but it's getting really stale, especially in elden ring with the countless reused assets from older souls titles, some spots feel legit like walking back in time to Dark souls 3.
Gow isn't like dark souls in any way, shape or form. There's literally nothing in that game that remotely feels like dark souls so the comparison is pretty stupid.
100% agree, input lag + that queue system that can lock you into a button press so you can push attack twice before the first attack animation goes off and be unable to dodge or cancel the second attack so you're just stuck there while all the bosses are insanely aggressive, have 40 hit combos, everything either ends in an AoE that forces you out of melee when you should be able to punish or bosses can just randomly go instantly into another one shot combo without warning, bosses have telegraphs that are too fast to the point you cannot escape is you see the telegraph making them pointless and turning some bosses into pure luck, it's not hard, it's just you hoping the boss doesn't do something broken. It's fake difficulty, in other Souls games, the vast majority of bosses follow the same rules as the player, they have punishable moves, they can't just bypass their punishable move animations to one shot you, everything is balanced around summoning breaking the balance of the game, so many bosses made that completely invalidate specific build types making some spells or archetypes never used invalidating the entire point of builds in an RPG. Genuinely, the bosses are the worst part of the game which is wild, the exploration is cool and fun but it doesn't outweigh the boss design being cheap garbage most of the time, it's not fun. For me, after playing over 100 hours(I gave the game a chance), it's a 6 out of 10 at best, I haven't even gone into how bad PvP is or balancing of things like status effects that are overpowered AF vs things like death magic that have high requirements to use and suck, or the fact vigor means nothing at a certain point, everything can kill you in 1 or 2 hits whether you have 10 or 80 vigor, or things like input reading where bosses will instantly trigger certain attacks the second you push the button to drink a flask, not in response to your movement, the AI will immediately do it the second it registers the button press and most of the time, there is nothing you can do about it. Honestly, after typing all this and still having more, this game is actually a 4 out of 10 for me, it's frustrating way more than it is fun.
No lies detected on top of all this the game does nothing to explain how the fuck to play it. Everything I have learned is on RUclips and Reddit same people yelling get bud same people using mimic tears and cheap long distant spells to beat everything.
@@Fullmetaltracer It's just frustrating because Souls fans tend to act like Pokemon fans, they feel the need to cape for the game even when it has glaring issues that have concrete proof. Like there are videos breaking down the input reading, bosses like Malenia just canceling out their down state without warning, telegraphs too fast for you to actually react to, bosses that AoE and jump out so fast you literally do not have time to punish with certain weapon or magic types without trading in a game where everything can kill you in 1-2 hits after the halfway mark, etc. So many factual problems, and the fans will try and gaslight you with "git gud" and pretend it's a perfect masterpiece. ER2 is gonna be even worse based on the fans brown nosing.
I couldn’t put it better myself. It’s a game, a game shouldn’t cause such unnecessary amounts of stress. And I hate the “git gud” crowd. The point is we already are good, but it doesn’t matter how good you are when the balancing is absolutely horrible and the game itself is broken.
There's so much about this game that is just bad game design or just straight up lazy but all the fan girls just excuse it by saying that's what makes it so great lol. Like boss runs is such a stupid thing and completely pointless, yet people somehow praise it for stupid things like that. I just don't get it
I hope this doesn’t become like cod where the developers get lazy and give us the same thing with one little change because people are making it that no matter what FS does it’ll be a 10/10
honestly i agree with almost everything you've said, and looking through comments i get the idea that most people agree with you but considering that, the like/dislike ratio on the vid is quite confusing for me (~900/400) either ppl just leave a dislike and don't even watch the video or maybe the addon has just bugged idk
100% agreed. It’s a good game but the way people were talking about it made me think I got the wrong game or something. People were saying how revolutionary it was when really it was the opposite and it felt like an old school game, in a good and bad way (as it actually felt kind of dated). I wouldn’t even say its a top 3 From game let alone “best game of all time” lol. Like you pointed out with how unbalanced it is, I stopped playing once I beat Morgott at like level 60. Found out how under leveled I was compared to most even though I leveled up how I usually do in these games and discovered a ton before, I then reached the snow area and decided I was done. Game is good until the end of the capital at least.
One great thing about the open world of ER is that the game truly did let you roam about its world super freely compared to other open world games. But the openness grinds to a halt after Leyndell.
@@J-manli exactly it feels like a different game after, I wouldn’t mind the linearity if it wasn’t so ugly, mountain top is just so bland compared to everything before
I dont hate the game either just It is in fact massively overrated and one of the weakest and laziest souls like game by fromsoft. Also the "unable to summon" bug also existed in Dark souls trilogy. It was even said this game wasnt supposed to be another dark souls game and it literally is just dark souls but downgraded to oblivion with the easiest bosses that are 90% reused and most poorly balanced PVP which is 99% of the time 3v1 invasions. No more 1v1 invasions or XvX with the constant fear of another invader or blue sentinel joining the fight at any moment due to the lock of 1 invader only. This game is at most mediocre. And the fact they killed dark souls trilogy servers on PC and are bound to kill console servers too for this mediocre game. This game is a 5/10 for me.
i loved it till the difficulty ramped up and everywhere you went was an insane maze. Pretty much when I got to the capital was when I started to get tired of it. I was planning on a ng+ but don't think I can do it again. The later levels are so unfun i can't be bothered. The talk about the quests cracked me up. I was thinking the same thing most of the time
This all day long. If the game ended at Leyndell after Morgott, I wouldn’t have minded. Castle Sol and Farum Azula are ridiculous. And yeah, if people are honest, a small percentage are actually doing some of these quests (eg Ranni’s) with no guide.
I totally agree. I loved the game up until Leyndell which, while beautiful, was just too big and intimidating, and most of the areas afterwards (Mountaintops, Azula) felt similarly too big and complex, and as someone who wants to find everything and had already spent 160 hours before even starting Leyndell, I was planning in doing another run earlier but the further I went, the more exhausted I got and the less I felt like running through again. There is such a thing as too much/too big /too long when it comes to games, and Elden Ring crosses that line multiple times, which would be more forgivable if such a huge proportion of the bosses weren't unnecessary repeats.
I play souls games to purposely get highly stressed out so I'm constantly pissed off and then I go around shitting on everyone I know to make my self feel better. rinse and repeat.
Totally agree with you. The more i play it, the more i think this game is a solid 7... maybe an 8. There are to much FS gatekeepers who paid $70 for this game and they are just forcing themselves to like it and forgive their massive amount of issues. But since it is FS first open world game i think it is a nice effort. So is a good game... but terribly flawed
I swear people complain about bloodborne being at 30fps but at least the game has zero lag or doesn’t get repetitive at all unless you farm in the chalice dungeons
The game is a console port to PC and as such laks any optimisation needed for diffrent PC rigs to run the game properly. Such is the case with any console ports rly.
Alot of console games tie animation speed to framerate (which sounds hella dumb but i bet there's some reason behind it), that might explain the 60fps lock.
After playing sekiro I was so hyped to see what they would do with elden ring but then it was just dark souls 3 with a jump button. Imo sekiro is easily their best game and I hope they give us a sequel or a prequel or something similar
I thought it was the greatest game ever made- until I got to the fire giant. If started to fall apart from there. I finally beat the game, but oh my God the Elden beast was such painful slog.
Elden beast and the 13 stupid trees pissed me off they repeat too many bosses also why is the boss before elden beast so much better than the final boss
When it comes to the fall damage segment, I can explain whats happening in technical terms. The game is always checking your stable ground position at all times except for teleporting to different grace sites. (There's way more to it than that but I'm cutting it shorter) So when you jump off a cliff the game saves your last known stable ground position and calculates the distance once you touch stable ground again. From what I've seen and experienced myself most slopes aren't considered stable ground. So when you touch the bottom all the game sees is point A to point B. So yes, the game separating different planes. 🙂
While I would assume that’s how most games probably work, I have a really hard time believing it in this game. I’ve never seen a game as inconsistent with fall damage. I have made some falls perfectly fine that are 2 or maybe even 3 times greater than others. I’ve died falling roughly 4 character heights, and lived falling 15.
@@mikemck4796 you get damage after 16 meters and you die after 20 meters. that's only a 4 meter window that separates surviving a fall from dying, and there are some ledges where standing/landing on one tiny rock makes a difference between life and death.
@@mikemck4796 Literally every other modern game calculates fall damage with both height and momentum. From Soft gets a lot of praise for "not doing what other games do," but there are times where being different just doesn't work.
Nah, I've seen people praise this game needlessly because "there's so much to do" and even adore the fact they had to look the shit up....and praise the developers for how much "detail" there is. But those details are so spread so far in-between that comes off as sloppy.
You don't have to look stuff up just explore its hard to find everything in one playthrough and also this game beats the hell out of every open world game out there and this is their 1st attempt at it i dont get how you can call it lazy maybe you just want a map full of map markers telling you exactly where to go. I bet you must love ubisoft games.
@@OldMusicHeaven It definitely does not beat other open world games. And you do have to look shit up cause you can easily lock yourself out of questlines or some abnormal amount of tasks to activate let alone complete one. Stop talking out your ass. And Ubisoft games? Lmao really? Try The Forest where you can actually do things besides kill shit. And even then? Earlier Assassin's Creed games you can climb nearly all buildings giving vertical travel. You can't even grab ledges in freaking Elden Ring. Don't make me laugh.
@@OldMusicHeaven How so there are open worlds that are more alive, More detailed, Better quests, more to do, better stories, More fuild gameplay. What does Elden Ring do for the open world genre? having No map markers was done by TES3. And Kingdom Come used this formula 4 years ago. How many open worlds have you played?
The "to do" stuff feels meaningless when almost nothing is explained through the "lore". Like, why am I running around and grinding for better gear and loot? Just to beat the next boss, who has ZERO backstory anyway. They could have fleshed out the story much better, it's all fragmented crap barely mentioned by npc's. There are all these grand locations with huge structures, but I have NO clue why it exists in the first place.
I'm not really into these games but I have this one a go and have up until I found as good guide. Now I'm around 80% through. My main complaint is the repetitive bosses and the mechanism where many of them spaz out and teleport all over the place and spend a lot of time in the air where you can't hit them.
@@donniechant1357 bloodborne especially is still my favorite honestly I was blinded at first I thought this game was so great but the more I played it the more I realized this is just easy dark souls I’ve never beaten a souls game so quickly before I did everything at 32 hours but ended up playing for over 200 hours because my friends needed help also the endgame was stupid 😂 I played it when it came out with the broken sword of night and flame and it was busted I killed everything quickly and the endgame bosses were dealing stupid damage idk why they made them so strong toward the mountain of giants and also the story makes no sense like usual in fromsoftware games this game was the most overrated game ever it got a 96 which is crazy to me
The unable to summon is an issue in previous souls games when it’s at its peak population. It’s simply because someone else got to the summon sign first before it could refresh in your world
did you read ANY item description from ANY item youve gotten the whole story you could read through all the items in the game or watch a video of all of it
Yep, agree with most of this. 8/10 for me. But it could so easily have been a 10/10! Elden Ring does SO much well. It is one of the best games I’ve ever played. But it’s like they made the best meal you ever made, but went overboard on the salt. It still tastes like the best meal ever made now and then, but every now and again you get a mouthful and your like ‘yep, there it is, there’s the bullshit again’.
24:00 - Dude, the quests were just like the ones of every single souls games. You are talking here about the Carian Inverted Statue, which description reads: "Reveals the hidden form of the Carian Study Hall, which connects to the divine tower. To unveil the secret, affix it to the pedestal of the celestial globe." It's literally telling you where and how to use it... "How would I know to do this?" Well, read one f**ing paragraph maybe?
This text is locked behind a button press. And thir clunky bad menu is the reason people miss out on this. You have to select the item (which you have to find in the first place) and then press an extra button the read the text. Now if people have to push more then 3 buttons or 3 mouse clicks they won't do it, this is well known. You have to go into the menu go into the sub menu where the item is then you have to press an exra button it's 4 "clicks" too much.
@@stevejurgens9985 the menus have been the same since ds1 (don’t know about demons’s souls since I haven’t played that yet). Plus all the buttons you need to use for the menu are shown in the lower part of the screen. You can’t blame the game
@@streamurmind You don't understood what I said so again. In web design or when deveoping the user interface there is the "3 click rule". You have to be able to get what you want in 3 clicks or button presses. If not, people won't do it. Because more then 3 is considered work and annyoing and people won't put the effort into it. The menu navigation is outdated and annyoing.
Reminds me of mainstream media, they say game is good and they all have this euphoria its the best thing ever, Although Resident Evil is horror its been around for a long time and has many critics trying to appeal to new fans and old. This game doesn't look like it offers anything unique , lots of Lord of the rings atmosphere influence and epic fantasy. Its projecting ideas from successors before it in a similar genre, nothing groundbreaking or new, but its new to the mainstream community because they've been told so they buy it. Fallout is another good example. It has tremendous criticism if it misses the mark, something is off when companies who profit are the ones hyping it up, follow the money
well sadly the hit game dad of boy ragnadwayne Johnson did not in fact win goty, ah I know why, they never showed thor's balls with the details higher than the horse balls in rdr2
The aids duo bosses were what really sealed the deal for me when it came to my final impression of Elden Ring (looking at you twin valkyrie gargoyles, duo crucible knights and godskin duo). I also just don't think that a massive open world layout in practice works well with the core darks souls formula which this game reuses. The entirety of Elden Ring essentially boils down to the exact same gameplay/exploration loop in previous souls games of "go to location/dungeon, kill boss, pick up loot, rinse and repeat", that is now spread across an overly-bloated world where content gets significantly reused as a consequence. This dynamic works fine in a more linear-style format which the original soulsborne games are characterised by, especially in Bloodborne and DS3 where boss fights are more heavily emphasised. In an open world game like Elden Ring, however, which gives you virtually nothing to do outside of this repeated loop for the whole length of the game, the gameplay/exploration experience ends up becoming relatively monotonous and taxing, exacerbated by the regularly reused content and enemies. For the initial third to half of Elden Ring, my personal experience with the game was stellar, but by the time I reached and finished the capital (which also included completing Ranni's quest line beforehand), I felt like I was pretty much done with the game, with everything else after becoming much more of a mental (and even physical) slog to finish. The end game itself was of course its own kettle of fish completely, and not in the most positive way either. Edit: typos
Yeah i get what you sayin. Most weapons arent viable and some literally break the game and turn every fight even malenia into a joke. A well made build with a good war of ash just melts everything compared to...eh id say...60% of wepaons in the game, expecially when you dont combine it with a spell or ash that can make you op, and the fact that some really good talismans and weapons are mostly in endgame ..i mean yeah...i know the struggle.
Totally agree. That's why a lot of people felt exhausted by the end. Difficulty curves were less balanced as a result to a shift to open world. Most players ended up artificially level grinding just to jump over a massive brick wall of difficulty spike that suddenly showed up out of nowhere. The Moghwyn Palace "chicken" exploit ended up being a life-saver for many players. lol
along with the linear style, this also gave the ability to really craft an area, generate interest in the lore and lead up to an epic boss fight that makes sense, you know who this is and why you're there. in ER, it's like, oh its boss #137, i hope it drops something good, oh it didn't, okay well onto boss #138... whoever that might be. maybe a 1 shot, or maybe a random npc more powerful than the last 4 runekeepers.
Yeah I dread the endgame now, my first time I didn't think it was too bad but after beating it multiple times I have to say, after the capital the game takes a huge dive and the bosses and areas become so boring and tedious
No one is even talking about the innately bad lock on system or the hive-mind ai that moves as one entity while the game "happens" to make my attacks whiff between half a dozen enemies that all dodged aside or used an attack animation to totally avoid my attack by millimeters. Meanwhile I get hit by phantom swings and oversized hitboxes. Oh! Don't forget enemy attacks that one shot you but make no sense, like getting hit by the handle of the Night Calvary's Halberd while he drags it on the ground. Or the random fifth elbow of the Ulcerated Tree Spirt (what is collision with terrain anyway, am I right?) Or the dragon's knee when it lands with the multi hitting Smash attack... or how every enemy in the game is perfectly ready to totally destroy your health bar at a moment's notice, but you are most guaranteed to get beaten up when you think it's your turn to fight back. The previous entries into the souls series had clear punish windows in most fights, they would attack, you would avoid the damage by blocking, dodging, rolling, something, and then you would do some damage in return. Not in this game. Every enemy has a "punish punish" as I like to call it, where they hit me for daring to try and exploit the punish window. Guard counters are almost always interrupted, especially if you're fighting more than one enemy, which is basically the entire game. Early game dungeon bosses are nothing but late game area mobs, there isn't a single iconic duo fight in the game, and all of the bosses just feel like the developers wanted to see how many attacks they could have a boss use in a row without stopping. Or how many times it will spam an AoE that will probably one or two shot you...I counted the number of Slam attacks the first Burial Watchdog (why is called watch dog but is a cat? whatever) used against me, and in one fight he used his aerial slam ELEVEN times in a row, not using anything else at all the whole time. The move does 2/3 of your hp at low level and you can only dodge it for so long when he goes up off camera almost directly overhead, then pauses for a variable amount of time, then slams down on your head, only to instantly enter the exact same attack animation and leaving me no time to do anything but run for my life and pray I can make him miss with enough room to squeeze in a heal. Oh, I'm out of heals because every fight seems like the AI ramps up the challenge more and more over the course of every single fight. Honestly I'll just make a video about it lol. The art is beautiful, the musical score is intense, that's about as far as my praise can honestly go. The game feels lazy and rushed despite the years they spent working on it. Very disappointed, not gonna lie
The lock on is such a bitch. The amount of times some nasty enemy is charged at me, I go to lock on and the game goes "Hay look, there's a sheep a mile away!". Honestly just fuck this game 😂😂
There’s also a problem if you do a jump heavy or any heavy attack and let go of the heavy button but not the light attack it will automatically register as you clicked an attack and it so frustrating. So you have to completely let go of of the attack button while your in the air. It doesn’t seem like it’s intended to do that. Ps I’m a mnk player so controller players might have the same issue
Although I have been absolutely enamored by Elden Ring, I don't personally think it's a 10/10. I would give it 8.5 as a personal score. The technical and design issues you highlighted are definitely some things that irked me at first, but playing the game more made them annoy me less and less over time; maybe that's Stockholm Syndrome? Haha. Good video, you explained yourself really well imo. Here's hoping you find a title that hooks you within the release year. Best wishes, dude.
@@PlatonicHesaf I am aware of this, but I am not going to call Elden Ring a masterpiece... yet. I know it's still too early to speculate on what DLC may come (and bring), but if it's anything like From's previous ventures into extended content, it will elevate the game to even greater heights or at least round out the lore to the point where it's at least a narrative masterpiece. PS Although I'm aware that this is Miyazaki's style, I am of the opinion that there just isn't enough connecting tissue to the game's overall plot. Too much is left open to interpretation for a story of this scale. Again, just my opinion.
even then the game is getting Biased Favorism the game has SHIT PC Performance but the community is like 'IT JUST WORKS!' wait isnt that what we bitch at Todd Howard @ FO76 over and such oh wait we just going to let this games community and designers and such get away with? K Hyprocrit community 100%.
@@MapleFried @Christopher Lapensee well what you said about it's plot made me wonder. Because it's not a really bad thing at all and actually this is what most of people enjoy about elden ring's plot. This open story is something that you can find in bloodborne even more and it's lore is a masterpiece because of this.
Very good review, it’s refreshing to hear an opinion that’s not bowing down to this game. I share a lot of your critiques especially regarding the story/lore. I keep hearing how rich it is but I can’t seem to see it. Great game yes, but it has its warts and i definitely agree that we aren’t holding this game to the same standard as others.
There's lore in the game? I'm halfway through and I have no fking clue what the game is actually about. I'm just grinding my way towards a huge tree, that's it.
@@fred6907 Lol it actually does have a lot of lore it’s just deeply buried, I’ve gone and watched RUclips videos of souls lore “experts” and it’s pretty cool. I think most people who play these games don’t uncover most of the lore on their own even though they’ll lie and act like they do. Most people watch lore videos on RUclips because it’s so hard to uncover and understand.
The world being smaller with out torrent is something i've said a few times ... the horse combat is horseshit ... You can't see what's happening, cause of effects ... hah even when there are no effects the camera starts rotating randomly in some locations, camera spinning while fighting. Npc placements are stupid esp. for hyetta. The statue was pretty obvious by it's name, by the description and if you try to use the altar with out it it says "something fits here" or something similar... I loved the difficulty spike, at the end I think the devs where betting on people being to op with all the things you can you in the game... Whenever i felt stuck i just whipped out some op ash of war... The mimic needs more defense and hp so he can last, mimic is stupid won't dodge/ roll.... You do make some great points though, it's a good game but it has problems, hopefully they return to the more linear world.
@Charles Hastings what's so funny is he claims to have beat every souls like game including sekiro (hardest souls like game by far) and then says elden ring is hard.... this game is a fucking joke compared to other souls games
@@appleseed445 1st sekiro was the easiest, once you learn the patterns even isshin is super easy 2nd so you think maliketh, godfrey, malenia, radagon and elden beast are a joke compared to other souls bosses? Yeah finish the game before saying your opinion
@@appleseed445 not really tbh, the older souls games really weren't that hard outside a few outlier bosses; like, SSI, Artorias, SNG, Sir Alonne, some of best fights in the series, are actually quite simple, hell for Gael i died only once, and SSI i managed to get on my first try. The only things the older games do have thats harder is lack of direction, but even then that's really only for the first game and sekiro to an extent
Respect your opinion. A lot of good points made 💪🏾 you’re also not an idiot. Almost all the best weapons and armor I have are because I used a guide to get thru it
No the input lag is absolutely RIDICULOUS lol I honestly don’t know if it’s just supposed to be like that in order to make the game more difficult and punish you for just button mashing or just technically crappy….. It took time to get used to….I didn’t really think to take points away from it for that….
Within the context of open world games Elden Ring is imo the apex experience and deserved every praise. However there is one thing it is missing: emotion. As excellent as it is, to me it will never surpass those extraordinary story driven experiences such as God of War or Death Stranding
ER follows many of its predecessors in that you the player are thrusted into a dying world way past its heyday. Every event of import has already happened, and all the major players are well pasted their prime. It's a fascinating stylistic choice, but I will argue it does not fit an open world game all that well. A world is more than just the scenic views and beautiful landscapes, it is also the people and their various cultures that help give the world more life.
The only thing good about it is it looks pretty. Every other aspect of it is still stuck in the early 2000’s. If you give this game a good score I genuinely couldn’t care less about your opinions because you’re obviously way too easily impressed by “Oo pretty”
About the story, I'm halfway the game and I got this. There's this Greater Will who really, REALLY want that Golden Order thing to go on despite things being bad as it is. Like even the God-Queen decided to break said Order intentionally due to it being bad in the hope it would end. Even then there are other Outer Gods like the Greater Will that wants to have their way in the Lands Between but you have to find them yourself.
@@VVabsa But you also might be right. One thing i noticed was a lot of npcs were really fed up with this greater will and their fingers bs. Flame lord was the better ending for me.
This was my first soulsborne game, the only complain i have is that its high time they improve the animations. after playing other AAA games, jumping into this i found the controls and movement very janky. they need to make it more fluid.
Lost Ark is newer to him and he may have overplayed the souls genre and Elden Ring didn't "revolutionize" what DS3 was enough for his expectations. Smarter people than I have mentioned Expectation is the killer of enjoyment, and I feel like this is the case here.
The first half of the video is him bitching about 60fps and other very minor "problems" lmao. Not even the actual performance issues there are and were. This is is some serious pc elitist shit here lmao. Most people barely hit 60 on good rigs with high resolution. However there is some valid points in there and while I disagree with a lot this is far from the worst takes I've seen on the game
@@sparkyspinz9897 PC elites confirmed. He talks about e-sports like that's the end all be all. I like Overwatch a lot but I'm never watching overwatch league EVER. I don't care what the incentive is to watch. In fact I HATE how Blizzard gatekeeps content behind these "watch the twitch strimmer" shit. Put the content in the game! Ok, rant over.
Only thing we need to do is tone down the damage of the end game. Perfect after that. I need to stop getting hit for 60% health by a normal enemy in the haligtree.
Not sure. Enemies still have a 10 hits combo that you have to perfectly dodge if you want a single chance of maybe hitting them once...I don't really like this style of play, I feel no agency
Elden Ring was amazing the first time I played it. I'm now on NG+ and I just don't feel the same urge to explore and fight bosses anymore, because you know what? I've done it. And the game is so long and I've seen most of the secrets that it just kind of feels tedious to have to chew through all the lower tier content to get to the end again. Endgame bosses are straight up unfair bullshit, hitting so hard that even at 60 Vigor, you need to essentially do a no-hit run on bosses like Maliketh and Malenia to have any chance at winning, which most players can't do. Weapons and skills are still busted, with a few like Rivers of Blood and Moonveil Katana, as well as Bloodhound Step dominating PvP and even PvE while if you use anything else you're going to die. Like another RUclipsr said, Elden Ring is the single greatest game that I never want to replay.
Yea I tried ng+ I just couldn't do it again and what is weird is it truly is the best game I ever played. I think it's because I did every single side quest and dungeon and got every item so there just wasn't anything left to explore
I wanted to buy Sekiro, but I can't find a new copy, only used ones, so I bought elden ring... I don't know if I'm liking the experience after 15 hours. Is a mix of fun, amazement, frustration and boredom. If only I could get more of the fun stuff, like not dying 50 times on a boss because I need to kill 500 little guys to level up enough first. I was expecting something closer to monster hunter, a "very hard monster hunter", but I got "I wanna be the guy ninja gaiden 3D punishment edition".
@@JesusProtects Just wait until you get to the endgame. If you think it's hard now, you will be stunned at how some of the last few bosses move and how hard they hit.
Yeah this game has lots of annoying shit. I mentioned this on the subreddit about there being an annoying abundance of enemies that are there to strictly be excruciating. I learned about this pretty early with the Nox twins. They're not explicitly difficult on their own, it's just the fact that they UNFAIRLY team against you. Like sure a duo, but when both of them are just CRACKED and specifically back away and wait boiled my blood.
i really want to like this game, but it's just so big, so empty and so unrewarding, I can't play it for more than 15 minutes without thinking of something better to do with my time
There is no story to speak of either. Just aimlessly walking towards a huge tree, nothing is explained along the way. The initial intro makes no sense..."Elden Lords something something".......ok, cool I guess.
On Xbox the fps and input lag is pretty bad compared to ps5 it was something I noticed immediately idk about pc, I was wondering why it felt like that not realizing the frame drops are the problem.
This is my first Soulslike, but I agree with you mostly. It's a good game, but not as good as some people are trying to hype it up as. Elden Ring will probably get GOTY anyway, but that speaks more to the state of modern games than anything else.
Think it's less to do with modern games and more to do with the fact that the Game Awards are as meaningless as the Oscars. It's a popularity contest and nothing more. 2020 pretty much definitively proved that when the Last of Us 2 beat games like Final Fantasy 7 Remake, Doom: Eternal and Ghost of Tsushima, all of which are infinitely better games. I didn't really watch or care much about the Game Awards but 2020 is when I lost any last shred of care I had about it. Especially when they came out point blank saying player feedback literally only makes up 10% of the vote so the players don't matter whatsoever.
Elden Ring shits on every game this year just in means of how content is in the game. Games these days have little to no content and Elden Ring is chalk full of content
I love Elden Ring, I love Fromsoft, but Elden Ring is *HIGHLY HIGHLY* over-rated, unfinished, and poorly playtested. The game needed atleast another 2 years before release. From should be ashamed of this game. It's supposed to be the culmination of 10 years of game creation yet they didn't so much as address the problems that have plauged the series since DeS and have ramped up the artificial difficulty exponentially.
Love this game too but it's getting so f'ng hard after beating godrick, rennala, and radahn. Enemies in late game don't even stagger when you hit them hard and have no wait time in between attacks. But if I get hit...sends me to my knees. And no damage indictors on enemies after being hit. Need more of like what happens to the octopi-legs getting chopped off during battle.
Valid criticisms IMO. I beat Dark Souls back in the day but haven’t played a souls/borne since until Elden Ring. While I absolutely love this game there are undeniably massive issues with some of the technical aspects of the game. Dragons require torrent or else they get really buggy behavior. I’ve had dragons Spider-Man wallcling because I was unmourned whacking their tummies. That one then no clipped because it’s X and Y axises flipped. The number of dragons that fly out of their arena ranges and have to reset is insane! Breath weapons that completely ignore geography/geometry. But still overall addictively fun game 😅
Addictive? Yes. Fun? Are we playing the same game??? It’s not fun, it’s incredibly lackluster and drawn out, as well as way too overly stressful for a GAME. It’s honestly hot garbage, and is WAYYY overhyped. This is coming from someone with almost 200hrs in the game btw. The only thing good about it is the graphics but everyone can’t stop creaming their pants over an incredibly mediocre game simply because it looks good.
@@jacksondiers582 TBH I thought the graphics were rather last gen and not that impressive. It was the gameplay and design that was the allure and appeal for me. Fun being a subjective thing it is rather unfortunate that you didn't enjoy the game. After 500+ hours in Elden Ring I'd say it was anything but overhyped.
There's always a game that comes out every few years that everyone is supposed to like it but a lot of people think it's overrated Witcher 3 and Elden ring
Bro I agree so hard. Exploring the world is just exhausting and you get bored of the game after a few hours of exploring. Some things in the game are recycled I agree. Enemy variety is meh. The bosses are cool but it doesn't give the feeling of "wow this boss is fukin incredible dude" like the older games did.
They pushed the engine too hard. Probably should have went with Unreal or scaled back the assets. Wasn't an issue with Sekiro which ran buttery smooth. Repeat bosses and two on one boss battles felt like padded content. Would have been better if they reduced the game's size.
Tbh they are working with this engine for over 10 years. If they went for Unreal, they would need to create many custom tools to work with. Whole team would have to learn Unreal + they couldn't reuse any animations from DS3 Going Unreal would be dumb idea. Do you realise how much money and time they would have to spend to even start development?
@@Nazylexx Studios switch to licensed engines to save money, not to spend more. That's the entire point of an off the shelf engine. Otherwise, the tradeoff for the licensing fees wouldn't even be worth it. Unreal's level streaming in particular would have been far superior for this open world game. If Unreal didn't save you money in development time, their entire business model would fail. It's meant for teams that don't have the engineering staff capable of building and maintaining a custom engine that needs to be overhauled every 5-10 years due to lighting and tech advancements. You leverage the tools Epic gives you instead of creating and supporting commonly used tech engineering things like physics tools, character mocap mapping, etc. Animations don't need to be recreated from scratch. The animation cycles aren't typically authored in-engine. Maya/Blender/Max etc. Then exported into the game engine. But even if that were not the case, skeletal anim data is universal. Capcom has the resources to maintain their own engine on the tech side, but probably not From Software. That's my take. The Surge Mortal Shell Ashen From The Ashes All use Unreal so it's not like you couldn't do this style of game in the engine and I'm sure From Software would be more than capable of making their full vision without compromises. That's my opinion at least.
@@rodneyabrett I don't deny that FS could make a game in Unreal. They are Japanese developer with their mindset "We do what we actually want to do". Their engine is custom made for them. Idk how many Japanese developers uses Unreal (I know that Ghostwire Tokyo was on UE4) but you have that language barrier can be a reason also. Even Miyazaki isn't speaking English at all. I don't feel like studio should abandon their own engine because Unreal is popular. We need competition on game market to avoid monopoly from Epic. I feel like porting their games to Unreal could create many problems we are not aware of.
Now that u realize it it will bother u every fromsoft game. Most gamers aint real gamers & will shit on other games for issues but ignore elden rings or fromsoft bullshit like they blind.
Every time I hear "industry standard" for an inherently artistic medium like video game development my brain just shuts off tbh. The game is frame capped at 60 because the frame issues would be exacerbated at higher framerates and the Souls games timings are frame dependant so if you up the framerate it'll fuck up the timings. It's funny because all of these issues are hard baked into FromSoft's outdated engine and everyone is acting like it's suddenly not okay now. These issues have been a part of the Souls games ever since Dark Souls and they will remain as long as From refuses to update their archaic game engine.
This what happens when people praise to much. Look at Bethsanda and CD Project. It was not until Fallout 76 and Cyberpunk that these devs are updating or in the case of CD Project getting a New one. Its going to take Them failing to get them to update.
If you spam it might not count it since its designed to que those up.. We called them out on the bad performance on pc. Player unable to be summoned might be just that soneone summoned them before you could summon them.
Personally I would give it a 7 or 7.5..Its good but it's not all what they hype makes it out to be. A lot of your points I agree with the boss repetition,the fall damage and the open world is kind of boring. Also the graphics aren't what I expected either it kind of looks the same as dark souls 3 but other than those things I enjoyed the boss fights and pvp is fun and the lore is very interesting.
Same, at first when i started it was a high 8.5 but the further I got, and noticing there is no real story, and all the bugs + riding torrent felt so sluggish which I hated I had to drop the score to around a 7 or 7.5 as well.
same at first i might have given it a 9 but there's so many issues like knowing where to go or even to get rannis ending which you ain't doing without a guide. As for the bosses well there's the repetition and also i really dislike the delayed attacks and input reading and the enemies are really fast too. Now it's probably a 7 for me cause towards the end i wasn't really having fun. Playing this game blind would be not fun to say the least even though that is probably the best way to experience games.
I feel like you're misrepresenting the amount of bad things tbh. It's like 75/25 ratio of good to bad content imo. I feel like they should've just deleted the snow area early in dev and spent more time refining everything else. But it was still the best open world experience ever for me, it just doesn't manage to keep it up because of the sheer size of the game.
I'm curious what u mean by best open experience. Cause I absolutely love this game but to me it's open world isn't better then Skyrim,Witcher, RDR2, botw or even horizon wests open worlds. The world is fun and dangerous but I wouldn't put that experience ahead of any of the games I've listed.
@@KingEaglez29 How the game gives you just the condition for progression and then throws you into the world without telling what to do. You're driven entirely by just your own curiosity to explore and everything about the world feels handcrafted. Even the dungeons that use the same assets will have unique tricks especially later into the game. It just never feels like you're doing some "activity" that the developers just placed around the map. Also having only the win condition given to you makes nothing feel like a list of tasks to fulfill, you're given a problem to solve to and the freedom to take your own route through the game.
@@hachikuji_mayoi so basically it's just the no quest log? Me personally it was my first souls like game I found the whole lack of direction kinda jarring. Resulted in me often going on RUclips and being like where do I go next elden ring. But hey that's just me 🤷🏻♂️
@@KingEaglez29 It's not specifically the lack of quest log. It's also how you can complete nearly everything outside of order or just skip entirely as like 75% of the game is optional. I actually wouldn't mind a sort of quest log. Like in morrowind npcs will tell you where to go and you'll actually be engaging with the world around you to navigate to the location instead of just mindlessly follow a pointer. Like iirc right at the start of morrowind you'll be instructed to meet a specific person in a different location. You can either walk there or ride a silt strider and when you're there you'll have to find the house that person is in. If you forget where to go you'll have the instructions written down in your quest journal. Like that is imo way superior to a marker just pointing out exactly where to go. Elden ring had some of that type of questing with especially the ranni quest but I do wish they had given us a journal to remember the quests more easily.
I agree with a lot of your opinions. Like you, I like the game as well, but it is, by no means, the best game of all time, and I don't think this should be game of the year. The open world is too big, a huge amount of it is just empty space (although it is a pretty empty space). I just don't have the time to check every nook and cranny, and exploration is just not very engaging to me. I played partly blind, but also used Fightin' Cowboy's walkthrough to make sure I didn't miss the majority of the game. the side activities all get super repetitive and boring far before the end of the game. Every catacomb looks the same, with only two or three enemy types and endlessly repeating bosses. The caves aren't much better although there is a little more variety. The mines are probably the coolest side dungeon activity, but even they're pretty repetitive. Even the Hero Graves, which are the most unique side dungeons are pretty much all the same. When you really, honestly think about it, aren't the catacombs, caves, hero graves, and mines just enemy outposts/enemy camps/watch towers/radio towers from other open world games that gamers love to shit on nowadays? They're just not labeled on the map until you find them. I ask that honestly. In Elden Ring, they're dotted all across the map, you go in, loot, kill shit, and fight a boss. In the other open world games, you go into the enemy camp, loot, kill everyone and take it over. Does the boss make it that much more different? The open world, at least in my opinion makes completing the quests (that are actually fully implemented) utterly tedious unless you constantly search everywhere periodically in order to see if an NPC moved, or use a walkthrough. Selene's questline, for example, after you release her body from that underground chamber. How am I supposed to know she's going to show up in Seluvis's puppet room thing? Maybe its tied to some item description or something, or maybe she says something about it, but I just didn't remember, but I know for certain that without a walkthrough of that questline, I would never have found her again, because I felt like I had no reason to return to that area. Latena's questline is another good example. I ran into her something like 20-25 hours into the game, after I was done with Limgrave and Stormveil, but before the Academy. The next time you do anything with her is pretty much at the end of the game, for me something like 50 hours later. I had completely forgotten about who she was, that I had her as a summon, and even that part of her quest gave me half of the secret medallion to get to the snowfield area. Without a walkthrough, I 100% would have missed the end to her quest. Then we get to the combat. I think the problem with the combat is the result of several other sub-issues. First, I feel like Elden RIng enemies and bosses read the players' input far more than other souls games. Granted its been a while since I played DS3 or Sekiro, but I don't remember those games having that issue. Second, I think in an effort to make this game more accessible (which I have absolutely no problem with, the more people that play, the more successful the game is, and the more likely we are to get more From Soft games, I can't stand the gatekeeping that some of this community engages in) the developers coded and designed the enemies and bosses in such a way where they're balanced to be fought with at least one summon. Without a summon, the bosses attack the player non-stop with far fewer and obvious attack openings. That combined with their ability to read inputs makes what appear to be openings, punishments to the player and ridiculously difficult. Then there are instances where a boss will go through a 5-30 part attack, after which you'd assume they would need some cooldown time, and an opening to punish if you dodge and/or block their attacks, but they immediately run away and out of range and start a new attack string before you can punish. On the opposite end, when you do summon, the bosses - even Melenia - are too easy. I think Melenia took me five tries, but only because I used a summon, I beat Malaketh on the first try, because I had a summon, I beat Morgot on the first try, I beat Mohg (both versions on the first try), etc., all because I had a summon to split the aggro. By the end of the game, I just wanted it to be over, I don't think I've ever felt that way about a souls game from From Soft. I've played them all apart from Bloodborne and Demons Souls, but I do intend on playing both of them. Sure I've gotten frustrated playing them in the past, but each time I've beaten one of the others for the first time, I felt 100 times more accomplished than when I beat Elden Ring. When I beat Elden RIng, I didn't feel accomplished or proud, I just felt exhausted and couldn't wait to move onto the next thing. In conclusion, Elden RIng is a good game, and for the first 30-50 hours I was truly enjoying myself, but once I realized how repetitive and unfair it is, especially in the late game, I just wanted it to be over. In my opinion, it is the weakest of all the souls games from From Soft. Of course, these are just my opinions, and they are not meant to insult/discount any others' feelings toward the game who enjoy it more than me. Jesus Christ, I did not intend to write an essay. Sorry!
8:12 I disagree with this point. If it’s overwhelming to you thats a preference and it’s probably best you don’t play open world games. I found it therapeutic to mentally keep track of places i need to come back to and explore. It helps me distract myself from reality, and is probably one of my favorite aspects of this game.
And what do you think about the MASSIVE empty wastelands, even in legacy dungeons like leyndell capital, where you have THOUSANDS of nooks and crannies with NOTHING, AT BEST you can find some random herb or an upgrade material, but most of the time it's just random ass hidden places with nothing. So much wasted space. It's infuriating me. Seriously it gives me anxiety cuz i recently played Bloodborne to get the last 2 trophies and the chalice dungeons had better level design than the legacy dungeons. The only dungeon i actually enjoyed both for level design and for atmosphere, was raya lucaria academy. But even that one had some AWFUL level design, like the big MASSIVE road with staircases in the middle of the map and the rooftops part. It actually peaked at the elevator that gets you down to that enemy that can kidnap you to vulcano manor. And it's like the only dungeon that didn't have recycled enemies, but new ones. When i was in leyndell, fighting the same dogs since dark souls 1, the same knights since dark souls 3 recycled 10 times in elden ring for every single region, the same zombie guys and then the goddamn tree spirits miniboss dropped down, my balls dropped. It literally made me groan out loud and say "SERIOUSLY??!!! AGAIN?!". And they also pulled a Bloodborne, recycling the round table safe place in the leyndell capital...WHY? In Bloodborne it made sense, it's a dream and the host of the dream had his safe place recreated just like the doll. Why the fuck is the round table in leyndell?? It's so LAME
@PokiiiChiii no. It's not garbage. All the problems it has stem from the fact that it's open world, just like Witcher im struggling to finish it. Oh and Witcher is bad. Way worse and 10 times more boring. Elden ring is an 8.5/10, Witcher 3 is a 7/10
@PokiiiChiii yes. Way more. In the Witcher all you do is walk run and ride the fkn bugged to hell horse, just to find yourself talking to random people, follow map markers the whole time, then you gotta go to the store and sell shit (and it's shit, random shit) cuz you are encumbered. That is Witcher Exploration. In elden ring you visit new places and find and fight new enemies (when they aren't recycled), talk to NPCs, do their quests without following any markers, you learn the story actively by the few cutscenes, the dialogue and reading descriptions of items. Souls games are way more active, Witcher is reactive the whole game. It's nice cuz there's a literal shitload of reactive quests and dialogues but it's still boring reactive shit, with some bad combat sprinkled in. And the movement system itself is bad in the Witcher. But that's from my perspective, i don't like classic RPGs that have dogshit gameplay and rely entirely on having hundreds of hours of repetitive quests where all you do is going from point A to point B, talking to someone, rinse and repeat, with some combat encounters here and there. Exploring in souls games means literally exploring the map, exploring in Witcher 3 is running in an empty wasteland until you find a marker that starts a stupid quest. If Witcher had minimal story and quests like Elden ring, it would just be a bad game. If elden ring had the same amount of npcs and quests as Witcher 3, it would be the best Witcher game ever made for the next 100 years.
I think Elden Ring took a lot of boss techniques from Sekiro. I heard you liked Sekiro a lot. Remember how the bosses would react to your positioning and stance, to the point where you can make the boss do certain attacks. Elden Ring definitely has that core "If this then that" and I think it kinda pissed some DS players since its not a "Wait and react".
Well, I've been really looking for that and there weren't a lot of bosses with such mechanics, Margit probably I suppose and maybeeee Malenia but Im not sure?
Saint Riot made a video on it. It does exist. I've incorporated it into my playstyle and it alleviated a lot of the issues I had. You CANNOT play this like a Dark Souls game.
Sekiro You Could Sprint Fast As Hell Against Bosses - Jump Over Attacks Quickly & Punish Moves Just As Swiftly As The Boss - I Hardly Seen That In Elden Ring Bosses - Your Evade Is Just Rolling & Slow Sprint & Weak Blocks In Elden Ring - Sekiro Combat Is Far Superior
Yah personally I did not enjoy the open world at all… the legacy dungeons and underground/hidden areas were the best but there’s sooo many reused bosses that didn’t need to be in the game. They are just there for loot and exp. Also, just use the black bow, your horse, bleed and rot arrows for dragons lol it’s easier then easy
Most open worlds re use bosses buddy its how the genre is so if you're giving elden ring flak for that then you are also speaking about every single open world game.
@@OldMusicHeaven Reuse of assets in any game is not the worst thing. Monster Hunter is one of my favorite franchises and the whole point is to fight the same catalogue of monsters over and over again. But ER is not all that effective with their reuse and the synergy of ER's various mechanics make that ineffectiveness worst sometimes. For example: The minor dungeons. The loot obtained from that side content is often a gamble. The reuse of environmental assets and enemies do not effectively inform us the nature of the loot they provide, so the only way to find out if a dungeon has good loot is to complete it. But because of the strict manner that builds work in ER, all that work clearing the dungeon could have been for naught since the loot you get doesn't contribute to your build. Horizon: Forbidden West also reuses enemy types, but the game is more efficient than ER in communicating what kind of loot the player can expect from said enemies. That communication allows players to have a choice to either ignore that enemy as they have no need for that loot or fight them for that needed loot.
Also, to clarify. Did you run into input lag or input queue issues? The game, 270 hours thay ive played has never lagged on me, input wise. But the input queue is atrocious. When you talked about the lag issues, how you would be spamming and nothing you were wanting it to do was happening perfectly describes the issues with the input queue in this game. It makes me wonder if you have misdiagnosed the issue, and yes, it's a big issue. Input queue was present in most the previous games but the window where you could do it was so small. In ER, let's say you go to attack then dodge out. You hit attack then start hitting dodge. In previous games, it qould queue up like maybe 20 frames before the animation ended. So if the boss decides to attack, you can change your plan on the fly and dodge out quicker. In ER, the queue is like half the previous animation. So if they start to attack as you are and you have hit the attack button one time halfway through the first animation you're stuck with the next attack even though there could still be .75 seconds between the pressing of the button and the end of the animation. Contrast this with Sekiro. You can stop any attack with a block/parry. You can go to attack. The katana one inch from their face. And you can block before it hits them. In fact, once you learn this, you can use it to your advantage to bait out their blocks or attacks.
uhm its there for everybody. You dont magically have the one copy in the world with a different code lol. So either you are lying, or just way too dumb to notice it making you seem like a clown here buddy.
I believe the problem is that Fromsoft attempted to create a hybrid of their own formula and the open-world RPG, I dare say, without consulting an expert in an open-world RPG, why not scale the bosses to the character's level? wanna make it challenging? scale it to the character's level + 5. About the quests I completely agree with you, there is this character Nepheli, half the game she is crestfallen, you have to bring her a specific summon/key that is not mentioned ANYWHERE but very minor lip-service in very few item-descriptions, now are the quests of an addict looking fella, a noble and a the mentioned above warrior woman related to eachother? apparently so because these three questions converge to eachother and don't tell me explore and find out because it converges in Limgrave, And that's also where they haven't listened to an open-world RPG expert, once you finish Limgrave there is no reason to go there, the game advances in a somewhat linear fashion, where as for example, skyrim you can be level 50 but still have reasons to go the Riverwood and Whiterun which are according to the story's flow very early game locations.
It’s apparent that they didn’t need to consult other open work RPG devs… people are loving elden rings open work RPG mechanics for more than they do other open world games. Elden Rings open world feels like a breath of fresh air.
Scaling bossies would kill the fun imo. They’re already difficult. Making them impossible for the average player means they’re won’t bother buying DLC or a sequel.
Scaling enemies to a player's level ALWAYS feels cheap and lame. There's no good way to do it, period. But the fact that the game is somewhat linear despite being open world means you'll probably never be way off in terms of your level progression, unless you decide to go back to previous areas and explore more. I really don't see what the problem is with any of this, and I think it worked very well.
There's a video on RUclips about secret stuff in the game and I remember a lore detail that can only be discovered by making a specific emote on a specific place in front of a big statue. I mean, who is going to find that by themselves without a guide?
I think I agree with most of this. The game is absolutely amazing, but obviously nothing is perfect. I think the reason people hold the developers to such a high regard, compared to other devs, which is what you were asking in the beginning, is that we know they care. A lot of developments nowadays are focused on making a game that fits into the norm, so they can be comfortable that it will reach a certain amount of sales, and will make a certain amount of money. The sheer risk that fromsoft take, by having controversial game, with no pay to win aspects or micro transactions, is a big one. But it’s just so nice to see a big developer that isn’t trying to do what everyone else is, and that is why people gush so much about fromsoftware. Also you should finish the ringed city dlc of dark souls 3, it has one of the most fun boss fights in any game I’ve ever played
Yeah, but, like, it is almost perfect, it could've been the best game of all time Like, the first three areas of the game are very good - most of the enemies and bosses there are fair&balanced (with exception of margit bcuz of his counterattacks why the hell they've done that, and some regular mobs are way too annoying), there is almost no repetition and none of the weapons and weapon arts are over-the-top (like BHS, RoB or MV), like if they've simply followed the DS3's formula (which imo is the best one (but i haven't played sekiro and BB so idk)) And then it all went downhill from there Goddammit, From...
It’s not controversial though dude. Fromsoft isn’t reinventing the wheel over here with their games, they’re just reinventing dark souls. And not by a whole lot. They essentially just reskin it, slap a new name on it and there you have it, a new fromsoft game. Elden ring is just dark souls 2.0. Little to nothing has changed about it other than graphics and story.
I once complained that Demons Souls didn't have enough content but now after playing Elden Ring I realise that it has the perfect amount of content but that's just my opinion
I thought rolling wasn't based on input lag, and was based around when you release the button, not instantly when you press it (because it's the run button as well)? It's why I hate the game too, because it forces you to think a millisecond ahead, or pray that you get lucky and dodge correctly. Worse than that is the action-queue 🤧🤧 The game's still way more enjoyable & satisfying than most games on the market. But it'll still make me want to throw my controller every now and then 🙃
This game feels like it needed at least 6 more months of development to finely tune damage dealt by bosses and cut some unnecessary dungeons caves and hero graves. Radahn before patch was absolutely ridiculous and made me put down the game for about 2 weeks and once i found out they nerfed him, i came back and he felt like a true fair and balanced fight. i feel some of the end game bosses need this adjustment, in all honesty radahn is a little too over-tuned but little tweaks like that will really help new players in the months to come to not have such a grueling and seemingly unfair experience. Bloodborne will always be my favorite because the challenge feels the fairest and the skill gap is at its best imo i wish Elden Ring borrowed more from Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne rather than the unfair sides of DS2 and extreme level of difficulty and skill gap of Sekiro while also not giving you the proper tools to overcome those challenges in a fair and challenging way (cheesing with bleed and mimic isn’t a solution).
I was expecting something different, like Sekiro, hence "Elden Ring" and not "Dark Souls. George RR Martin slapped his name on the box and it's been all flattery since. Just Dark Rolls with spaz freak giant bosses that are generally off-screen attacking, with a purposeless "open world" that adds nothing but tedium to the game. Not much replay value.
I will give 1 strike to lack of backup saves. I played on console but played on cloud too because I work a lot and away from home. I came home to play on my console after being away a week and it automatically loaded up the console save and I lost my whole week of progression. I'm talking rot dragon, the rot general at the heart of Caelid, Volcano Manor Rycard, Millicent entire quest, Godfrey, Morgot, the general with the 2 night summons guarding him, Concicrated snowfield, ice dragon, rivers of blood, bell bearings for miners and somber 5-9, both medalions to the second grand lift, fire giant rivers of blood, moonveil, ice dragon in the lake, god skin duo 1 and 2, Crumbling area ...I felt sick.
I struggled with the first horse knight, then I got the horse, and did some need for speed red dead redemption dark souls combat, and just waited for it to swing, and ran by and swung once, then hit the nitro and got out.
I feel like when you talked about being tired or not wanting to explore because it was either TOO much, or it was just something way too similar to everything else. It’s great to find things on your own when exploring, but I think everybody is hyping up what is there. This map isnt entirely made in a way where it’s “if you look somewhere and go there, something is most likely there” which is flat out a lie and I’ve wasted hours just riding on horseback to irrelevant places on the map. It made me not want to explore, and then when I explored and found things, it was literally just a dungeon or something that i’ve already done earlier before, or something that I didnt want to do at all. TLDR I feel the open world isnt as cool or as rewarding to explore as people say in my opinion.
Thank you glad someone feels the same way. With Bloodbourne finding a side boss was not a regular occurrence so it felt special. Elden Ring has really helped me understand what I enjoy from exporation which finding unique things. the only time exploration was Good was when finding quests but with size of the world it was rare to find due to only having a small number.
@@John-996 yo facts. If it wasnt for me having somebody in my stream to tell me what I had to do and where to go for the dectus lift I think I would’ve never found it. Same goes with side quests. I didnt even finish Ranni’s side quest because I had no idea wth was going on or why I was doing it. The most straight forward side quest (and only other side quest i did) was the one in the volcano manor in order to get a key to fight Rykard.
The problem is Elden Ring is just not a good open world game. There are many great open world games like the Elder Scrolls series & Witcher 3, these games are genuinely fun to explore for the first time playing plus they have great replay value. Elden Ring doesn't.
I didn't know how to find locations on the map so I spent a lot of time riding in circles not finding anything. And when I did find a side dungeon, I didn't find them that rewarding in terms of runes or loot. Maybe if I knew the glovewort was useful for upgrading idk. But I ended up fighting Margit when I was maybe a bit weaker than I should have, but I didn't rush to him like people defending the game claim. I had been wandering around and I also didn't upgrade my weapons that much bc the shards seems very scarce and hadn't even found enemies to farm drops like previous games. I hadn't found that mine right near the beginning of the game since like I said I didn't know how to read the map.
It's all just copy paste dungeons with copy paste bosses and mostly unusable rewards 😂 exploration sucks in this game.
The rolling spam is getting a bit dated, if they're gonna speed up enemies and up the aggression that's fine, but it still feels like the player is in 2011 while the enemies are in 2022, the dodging should be more reactive to what kind of attack is happening, just rolling through flurries of spinning swords looks and feels a bit silly by now. (The i frames system is great not saying to change it just needs to be updated in their next one imo)
Been saying this for years. Dark Souls 2 tried fixing this and the entire fan base had a panic attack because they had to actually move out of the way of attacks…you know… *perform a dodge*
@@TheFloodFourmAye, never understoof why people were so harsh on ds2
Use jump...... this comment just exposes you don't understand the new mechanics
@@tracymorgansbelly3322 I don't think you've understood the point being made. The fact that you consider something as simple as jumping in these games as a "new mechanic" is kind of the point. Games have let you jump for a very long time and it's not a viable dodging option vs the vast majority of attacks. Roll is still more easily spammable even against horah loux's earthshaker.
@@TheFloodFourm because more I-frames was a bandaid solution for a bad game
Elden Ring is by all means not a bad game. It's a great game. What makes it overrated is when people call it "perfect."
It’s more of when people are impressed by how creative game is and how it’s that and this when it’s just dark souls but with open world and some new things.
It's an overexaggeration to call this game "great"
all the 10/10 reviews are insane
There's salvageable ideas and stuff, but my experience with the game was definitely poor.
@@CygnusX-11those 10/10 rating are probably given by reviewers who didn’t even get half way.
Open world, but world where almost everything is trying to kill you. Capital .. capital of what? undead, monster and hostile creatures? This world has no "life", and this became terribly tiring with time. In Gothic series or The Witcher there was a lot of normal inhabitants, villages and cities. There is only overwhelming hostility which is growing as you progress through the game. Not for me.
😂😂 bruh, don’t let from software fanboys see this
Like a GTAV lobby full of trolls 😅
I would love to see a FS Stan try their hand on Gothin 1 and 2... that would be a fun thing to watch
Elden Ring gave me brain cancer so I went back to playing modded oblivion.
lol
The unable to summon at the final boss is cause those summon signs get used the second they’re down so u have to get one like right as it appears. I been helping there and when I put my sign down I get summoned in seconds
same, people summon me literally instantly
Tried to summon for help but it always failed so after what must have been at least 25 tries I finally did it by myself today...... when I equipped the talisman for protection against holy damage I managed to get in the final hit on the elden beast and I had like a millimetre of life left.
He claims he beat all the Souls games, and then things that happen in every single Souls game surprised him when it happened in Elden Ring.
I'm not convinced he has beaten any of the Souls games. He played Elden Ring and knew it was easy click bait content to say the game was trash.
@@ronperreault8889 imgur.com/gallery/sZwaARh
Order from top to bottom is Dark Souls Prepare to Die, Dark Souls 2, Dark Souls 3, and Sekiro.
Now take a seat.
Wait... you can ask other players for help in bosses?
There's a seriously weird thing happening right now that the masses seem to latch on to lackluster things in media and blindly praise them and try to silence anyone that goes against the grain. Dark souls was awesome because it was a new exciting challenging concept but too many damn things are just souls formula now. Every single fromsoftware game is just a souls clone and even other developers instead of creating new characters for a new game are dragging their awesome characters into stupid souls clones. Darksiders and especially God of war have unfortunately gone through this. Even mentioning that some other studio could create the old god of war formula while Santa Monica studio works on their souls clone version seems to upset people to a severely weird degree. I'm not saying I hate the souls formula but it's getting really stale, especially in elden ring with the countless reused assets from older souls titles, some spots feel legit like walking back in time to Dark souls 3.
You're right 100% , sheeple
Gow isn't like dark souls in any way, shape or form. There's literally nothing in that game that remotely feels like dark souls so the comparison is pretty stupid.
@@andymartinez4268 Yah GoW is god of war lol.
this and doom eternal have the worst fanboys. i dont even know why
@@DaBigBoo_ I thought sonic fanboys were bad 😂
What annoys me the most is the character's delayed response. It just feels so wrong.
Glad it's not just me. I literally thought there was something wrong with my hardware.
100% agree, input lag + that queue system that can lock you into a button press so you can push attack twice before the first attack animation goes off and be unable to dodge or cancel the second attack so you're just stuck there while all the bosses are insanely aggressive, have 40 hit combos, everything either ends in an AoE that forces you out of melee when you should be able to punish or bosses can just randomly go instantly into another one shot combo without warning, bosses have telegraphs that are too fast to the point you cannot escape is you see the telegraph making them pointless and turning some bosses into pure luck, it's not hard, it's just you hoping the boss doesn't do something broken. It's fake difficulty, in other Souls games, the vast majority of bosses follow the same rules as the player, they have punishable moves, they can't just bypass their punishable move animations to one shot you, everything is balanced around summoning breaking the balance of the game, so many bosses made that completely invalidate specific build types making some spells or archetypes never used invalidating the entire point of builds in an RPG. Genuinely, the bosses are the worst part of the game which is wild, the exploration is cool and fun but it doesn't outweigh the boss design being cheap garbage most of the time, it's not fun. For me, after playing over 100 hours(I gave the game a chance), it's a 6 out of 10 at best, I haven't even gone into how bad PvP is or balancing of things like status effects that are overpowered AF vs things like death magic that have high requirements to use and suck, or the fact vigor means nothing at a certain point, everything can kill you in 1 or 2 hits whether you have 10 or 80 vigor, or things like input reading where bosses will instantly trigger certain attacks the second you push the button to drink a flask, not in response to your movement, the AI will immediately do it the second it registers the button press and most of the time, there is nothing you can do about it. Honestly, after typing all this and still having more, this game is actually a 4 out of 10 for me, it's frustrating way more than it is fun.
shouldnt push attack twice then you greedy bastard
Facts
No lies detected on top of all this the game does nothing to explain how the fuck to play it. Everything I have learned is on RUclips and Reddit same people yelling get bud same people using mimic tears and cheap long distant spells to beat everything.
@@Fullmetaltracer It's just frustrating because Souls fans tend to act like Pokemon fans, they feel the need to cape for the game even when it has glaring issues that have concrete proof. Like there are videos breaking down the input reading, bosses like Malenia just canceling out their down state without warning, telegraphs too fast for you to actually react to, bosses that AoE and jump out so fast you literally do not have time to punish with certain weapon or magic types without trading in a game where everything can kill you in 1-2 hits after the halfway mark, etc. So many factual problems, and the fans will try and gaslight you with "git gud" and pretend it's a perfect masterpiece. ER2 is gonna be even worse based on the fans brown nosing.
I couldn’t put it better myself. It’s a game, a game shouldn’t cause such unnecessary amounts of stress. And I hate the “git gud” crowd. The point is we already are good, but it doesn’t matter how good you are when the balancing is absolutely horrible and the game itself is broken.
You didn't mention Mountaintop of the Giants, where they take all of the shittiest enemies in the game and put them all in one spot.
All except for the teleporting spider guys
There's so much about this game that is just bad game design or just straight up lazy but all the fan girls just excuse it by saying that's what makes it so great lol. Like boss runs is such a stupid thing and completely pointless, yet people somehow praise it for stupid things like that. I just don't get it
I hope this doesn’t become like cod where the developers get lazy and give us the same thing with one little change because people are making it that no matter what FS does it’ll be a 10/10
honestly i agree with almost everything you've said, and looking through comments i get the idea that most people agree with you
but considering that, the like/dislike ratio on the vid is quite confusing for me (~900/400)
either ppl just leave a dislike and don't even watch the video
or maybe the addon has just bugged idk
It's just the souls community voting down bc they can't objectify their beloved game (and yes I like this game very much)
ya your addon is definitely bugged, the current like to dislike ratio is
869 likes
788 dislikes
@@_Crazyman64335 jeez, i though of a bug in other way lol
the video's pretty good tho, i liked it
Loved this video. I completed the game, gave it a 7/10, Facebook fanboys were so mad.
A 7-8 is a very reasonable rating for this game. There is absolutely nothing that takes it above that.
100% agreed. It’s a good game but the way people were talking about it made me think I got the wrong game or something. People were saying how revolutionary it was when really it was the opposite and it felt like an old school game, in a good and bad way (as it actually felt kind of dated). I wouldn’t even say its a top 3 From game let alone “best game of all time” lol.
Like you pointed out with how unbalanced it is, I stopped playing once I beat Morgott at like level 60. Found out how under leveled I was compared to most even though I leveled up how I usually do in these games and discovered a ton before, I then reached the snow area and decided I was done. Game is good until the end of the capital at least.
One great thing about the open world of ER is that the game truly did let you roam about its world super freely compared to other open world games. But the openness grinds to a halt after Leyndell.
@@J-manli exactly it feels like a different game after, I wouldn’t mind the linearity if it wasn’t so ugly, mountain top is just so bland compared to everything before
@@HanyHabibi97 Yah , I really hate the environment to say the least. My friend said this was a prefect 10/10 and had to try it for myself.
I dont hate the game either just It is in fact massively overrated and one of the weakest and laziest souls like game by fromsoft. Also the "unable to summon" bug also existed in Dark souls trilogy. It was even said this game wasnt supposed to be another dark souls game and it literally is just dark souls but downgraded to oblivion with the easiest bosses that are 90% reused and most poorly balanced PVP which is 99% of the time 3v1 invasions. No more 1v1 invasions or XvX with the constant fear of another invader or blue sentinel joining the fight at any moment due to the lock of 1 invader only. This game is at most mediocre. And the fact they killed dark souls trilogy servers on PC and are bound to kill console servers too for this mediocre game. This game is a 5/10 for me.
i loved it till the difficulty ramped up and everywhere you went was an insane maze. Pretty much when I got to the capital was when I started to get tired of it. I was planning on a ng+ but don't think I can do it again. The later levels are so unfun i can't be bothered.
The talk about the quests cracked me up. I was thinking the same thing most of the time
This all day long. If the game ended at Leyndell after Morgott, I wouldn’t have minded. Castle Sol and Farum Azula are ridiculous.
And yeah, if people are honest, a small percentage are actually doing some of these quests (eg Ranni’s) with no guide.
I totally agree. I loved the game up until Leyndell which, while beautiful, was just too big and intimidating, and most of the areas afterwards (Mountaintops, Azula) felt similarly too big and complex, and as someone who wants to find everything and had already spent 160 hours before even starting Leyndell, I was planning in doing another run earlier but the further I went, the more exhausted I got and the less I felt like running through again. There is such a thing as too much/too big /too long when it comes to games, and Elden Ring crosses that line multiple times, which would be more forgivable if such a huge proportion of the bosses weren't unnecessary repeats.
@@lesliecarl7623 castle sol and farum azula are literally two of the best areas in the game
@@QuentinClemensLove your opinion is wrong
@@bensharp4851 not for me. Castle Sol was obnoxious. Farum Azula dragged on and the bosses were just recycled from earlier. But each to their own.
I play souls games to purposely get highly stressed out so I'm constantly pissed off and then I go around shitting on everyone I know to make my self feel better. rinse and repeat.
Totally agree with you. The more i play it, the more i think this game is a solid 7... maybe an 8. There are to much FS gatekeepers who paid $70 for this game and they are just forcing themselves to like it and forgive their massive amount of issues. But since it is FS first open world game i think it is a nice effort. So is a good game... but terribly flawed
I swear people complain about bloodborne being at 30fps but at least the game has zero lag or doesn’t get repetitive at all unless you farm in the chalice dungeons
About the FPS, could it be an engine limitation?
It’s basically the same engine as the first Dark Souls.
All of them are capped at 60 fps.
The game is a console port to PC and as such laks any optimisation needed for diffrent PC rigs to run the game properly. Such is the case with any console ports rly.
Alot of console games tie animation speed to framerate (which sounds hella dumb but i bet there's some reason behind it), that might explain the 60fps lock.
After playing sekiro I was so hyped to see what they would do with elden ring but then it was just dark souls 3 with a jump button. Imo sekiro is easily their best game and I hope they give us a sequel or a prequel or something similar
I thought it was the greatest game ever made- until I got to the fire giant. If started to fall apart from there. I finally beat the game, but oh my God the Elden beast was such painful slog.
Elden beast and the 13 stupid trees pissed me off they repeat too many bosses also why is the boss before elden beast so much better than the final boss
@@thegamewin100 Yeah I agree. Elden beast brought my opinion of the game way down.
When it comes to the fall damage segment, I can explain whats happening in technical terms. The game is always checking your stable ground position at all times except for teleporting to different grace sites. (There's way more to it than that but I'm cutting it shorter) So when you jump off a cliff the game saves your last known stable ground position and calculates the distance once you touch stable ground again. From what I've seen and experienced myself most slopes aren't considered stable ground. So when you touch the bottom all the game sees is point A to point B. So yes, the game separating different planes. 🙂
Thanks Hisoka, very insightful
While I would assume that’s how most games probably work, I have a really hard time believing it in this game.
I’ve never seen a game as inconsistent with fall damage.
I have made some falls perfectly fine that are 2 or maybe even 3 times greater than others.
I’ve died falling roughly 4 character heights, and lived falling 15.
@@mikemck4796 you get damage after 16 meters and you die after 20 meters. that's only a 4 meter window that separates surviving a fall from dying, and there are some ledges where standing/landing on one tiny rock makes a difference between life and death.
@@Stefan-fu9bl Yeah, it’s a terrible system.
There are also many places that allow you to fall much further without any injury at all.
@@mikemck4796
Literally every other modern game calculates fall damage with both height and momentum. From Soft gets a lot of praise for "not doing what other games do," but there are times where being different just doesn't work.
Nah, I've seen people praise this game needlessly because "there's so much to do" and even adore the fact they had to look the shit up....and praise the developers for how much "detail" there is. But those details are so spread so far in-between that comes off as sloppy.
You don't have to look stuff up just explore its hard to find everything in one playthrough and also this game beats the hell out of every open world game out there and this is their 1st attempt at it i dont get how you can call it lazy maybe you just want a map full of map markers telling you exactly where to go. I bet you must love ubisoft games.
@@OldMusicHeaven It definitely does not beat other open world games. And you do have to look shit up cause you can easily lock yourself out of questlines or some abnormal amount of tasks to activate let alone complete one. Stop talking out your ass.
And Ubisoft games? Lmao really? Try The Forest where you can actually do things besides kill shit. And even then? Earlier Assassin's Creed games you can climb nearly all buildings giving vertical travel. You can't even grab ledges in freaking Elden Ring. Don't make me laugh.
@@OldMusicHeaven How so there are open worlds that are more alive, More detailed, Better quests, more to do, better stories, More fuild gameplay. What does Elden Ring do for the open world genre? having No map markers was done by TES3. And Kingdom Come used this formula 4 years ago. How many open worlds have you played?
The "to do" stuff feels meaningless when almost nothing is explained through the "lore". Like, why am I running around and grinding for better gear and loot? Just to beat the next boss, who has ZERO backstory anyway. They could have fleshed out the story much better, it's all fragmented crap barely mentioned by npc's. There are all these grand locations with huge structures, but I have NO clue why it exists in the first place.
I'm not really into these games but I have this one a go and have up until I found as good guide. Now I'm around 80% through. My main complaint is the repetitive bosses and the mechanism where many of them spaz out and teleport all over the place and spend a lot of time in the air where you can't hit them.
My brother....you are MISSING OUT on Dark Souls 3 DLC. You have to play it. It has the best boss in the series
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They pygmy
Not including Sekiro, which has the actual best bosses
@@glowerworm who was that
@@peterversionone gyoubu masataka oniwa
If you've played one souls game you've played them all
A clever way of putting it. I'd still say though Sekiro and Bloodborne set themselves apart enough they stand out and don't feel the same
@@donniechant1357 bloodborne especially is still my favorite honestly I was blinded at first I thought this game was so great but the more I played it the more I realized this is just easy dark souls I’ve never beaten a souls game so quickly before I did everything at 32 hours but ended up playing for over 200 hours because my friends needed help also the endgame was stupid 😂 I played it when it came out with the broken sword of night and flame and it was busted I killed everything quickly and the endgame bosses were dealing stupid damage idk why they made them so strong toward the mountain of giants and also the story makes no sense like usual in fromsoftware games this game was the most overrated game ever it got a 96 which is crazy to me
Pretty much, which is why i havent bought another fromsoftware game after ds3. They pretty much feel all the same cept fo a few nuances
Facts
Not really, sekiro and bloodborne seemed like they were making strides. Then they went backwards and made a worse video game that's pretty damn lazy
The unable to summon is an issue in previous souls games when it’s at its peak population. It’s simply because someone else got to the summon sign first before it could refresh in your world
Glad i am not the only one who beat the game and had no idea what was going on. Sekiro is the only FROM game i understood
That's just how most Souls games are though. People look for videos to explain what just happened 🙂
did you read ANY item description from ANY item youve gotten the whole story you could read through all the items in the game or watch a video of all of it
Yep, agree with most of this. 8/10 for me.
But it could so easily have been a 10/10!
Elden Ring does SO much well. It is one of the best games I’ve ever played. But it’s like they made the best meal you ever made, but went overboard on the salt.
It still tastes like the best meal ever made now and then, but every now and again you get a mouthful and your like ‘yep, there it is, there’s the bullshit again’.
That analogy perfectly frames alot of games over the last 10 years. Some more salty than others. But damn, SPOT ON!
You are correct that Bloodborne is better than Elden Ring.
Every area didn’t need a boss then the duo of damn near every boss is pure BS
Rage is real
24:00 - Dude, the quests were just like the ones of every single souls games. You are talking here about the Carian Inverted Statue, which description reads: "Reveals the hidden form of the Carian Study Hall, which connects to the divine tower. To unveil the secret, affix it to the pedestal of the celestial globe."
It's literally telling you where and how to use it... "How would I know to do this?" Well, read one f**ing paragraph maybe?
The amount of people allergic to reading
This text is locked behind a button press. And thir clunky bad menu is the reason people miss out on this. You have to select the item (which you have to find in the first place) and then press an extra button the read the text. Now if people have to push more then 3 buttons or 3 mouse clicks they won't do it, this is well known. You have to go into the menu go into the sub menu where the item is then you have to press an exra button it's 4 "clicks" too much.
@@stevejurgens9985 the menus have been the same since ds1 (don’t know about demons’s souls since I haven’t played that yet). Plus all the buttons you need to use for the menu are shown in the lower part of the screen. You can’t blame the game
@@streamurmind You don't understood what I said so again. In web design or when deveoping the user interface there is the "3 click rule". You have to be able to get what you want in 3 clicks or button presses. If not, people won't do it. Because more then 3 is considered work and annyoing and people won't put the effort into it.
The menu navigation is outdated and annyoing.
It's perfect in the regard that it's what we wanted from DS3, seen the phrase DS3.5 quite alot and it's hard to not see it that way. Valid criticism.
Reminds me of mainstream media, they say game is good and they all have this euphoria its the best thing ever, Although Resident Evil is horror its been around for a long time and has many critics trying to appeal to new fans and old. This game doesn't look like it offers anything unique , lots of Lord of the rings atmosphere influence and epic fantasy. Its projecting ideas from successors before it in a similar genre, nothing groundbreaking or new, but its new to the mainstream community because they've been told so they buy it. Fallout is another good example. It has tremendous criticism if it misses the mark, something is off when companies who profit are the ones hyping it up, follow the money
elden ring early to mid game 8 out of 10...elden ring late to end game 0/10
I can't wait to see the Souls game diehards see Elden get beat by Dad & Boy for GOTY.
I hope dude at this point it’s not even fun to talk bad about this game the amount of fanboys praising it STILL is crazy e
For real, the combat in Elden is not even close to how good gow 4 combat is. Not one bit
@@sl9wdive well we got more awards but got the 2018 treatment 😭😭 we lost the only award that mattered but congrats to elden ring
well sadly the hit game dad of boy ragnadwayne Johnson did not in fact win goty, ah I know why, they never showed thor's balls with the details higher than the horse balls in rdr2
The aids duo bosses were what really sealed the deal for me when it came to my final impression of Elden Ring (looking at you twin valkyrie gargoyles, duo crucible knights and godskin duo). I also just don't think that a massive open world layout in practice works well with the core darks souls formula which this game reuses. The entirety of Elden Ring essentially boils down to the exact same gameplay/exploration loop in previous souls games of "go to location/dungeon, kill boss, pick up loot, rinse and repeat", that is now spread across an overly-bloated world where content gets significantly reused as a consequence. This dynamic works fine in a more linear-style format which the original soulsborne games are characterised by, especially in Bloodborne and DS3 where boss fights are more heavily emphasised. In an open world game like Elden Ring, however, which gives you virtually nothing to do outside of this repeated loop for the whole length of the game, the gameplay/exploration experience ends up becoming relatively monotonous and taxing, exacerbated by the regularly reused content and enemies.
For the initial third to half of Elden Ring, my personal experience with the game was stellar, but by the time I reached and finished the capital (which also included completing Ranni's quest line beforehand), I felt like I was pretty much done with the game, with everything else after becoming much more of a mental (and even physical) slog to finish. The end game itself was of course its own kettle of fish completely, and not in the most positive way either.
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Yeah i get what you sayin. Most weapons arent viable and some literally break the game and turn every fight even malenia into a joke. A well made build with a good war of ash just melts everything compared to...eh id say...60% of wepaons in the game, expecially when you dont combine it with a spell or ash that can make you op, and the fact that some really good talismans and weapons are mostly in endgame ..i mean yeah...i know the struggle.
Totally agree. That's why a lot of people felt exhausted by the end. Difficulty curves were less balanced as a result to a shift to open world. Most players ended up artificially level grinding just to jump over a massive brick wall of difficulty spike that suddenly showed up out of nowhere. The Moghwyn Palace "chicken" exploit ended up being a life-saver for many players. lol
Amen.
along with the linear style, this also gave the ability to really craft an area, generate interest in the lore and lead up to an epic boss fight that makes sense, you know who this is and why you're there. in ER, it's like, oh its boss #137, i hope it drops something good, oh it didn't, okay well onto boss #138... whoever that might be. maybe a 1 shot, or maybe a random npc more powerful than the last 4 runekeepers.
Yeah I dread the endgame now, my first time I didn't think it was too bad but after beating it multiple times I have to say, after the capital the game takes a huge dive and the bosses and areas become so boring and tedious
No one is even talking about the innately bad lock on system or the hive-mind ai that moves as one entity while the game "happens" to make my attacks whiff between half a dozen enemies that all dodged aside or used an attack animation to totally avoid my attack by millimeters. Meanwhile I get hit by phantom swings and oversized hitboxes. Oh! Don't forget enemy attacks that one shot you but make no sense, like getting hit by the handle of the Night Calvary's Halberd while he drags it on the ground. Or the random fifth elbow of the Ulcerated Tree Spirt (what is collision with terrain anyway, am I right?) Or the dragon's knee when it lands with the multi hitting Smash attack... or how every enemy in the game is perfectly ready to totally destroy your health bar at a moment's notice, but you are most guaranteed to get beaten up when you think it's your turn to fight back. The previous entries into the souls series had clear punish windows in most fights, they would attack, you would avoid the damage by blocking, dodging, rolling, something, and then you would do some damage in return. Not in this game. Every enemy has a "punish punish" as I like to call it, where they hit me for daring to try and exploit the punish window. Guard counters are almost always interrupted, especially if you're fighting more than one enemy, which is basically the entire game. Early game dungeon bosses are nothing but late game area mobs, there isn't a single iconic duo fight in the game, and all of the bosses just feel like the developers wanted to see how many attacks they could have a boss use in a row without stopping. Or how many times it will spam an AoE that will probably one or two shot you...I counted the number of Slam attacks the first Burial Watchdog (why is called watch dog but is a cat? whatever) used against me, and in one fight he used his aerial slam ELEVEN times in a row, not using anything else at all the whole time. The move does 2/3 of your hp at low level and you can only dodge it for so long when he goes up off camera almost directly overhead, then pauses for a variable amount of time, then slams down on your head, only to instantly enter the exact same attack animation and leaving me no time to do anything but run for my life and pray I can make him miss with enough room to squeeze in a heal. Oh, I'm out of heals because every fight seems like the AI ramps up the challenge more and more over the course of every single fight. Honestly I'll just make a video about it lol. The art is beautiful, the musical score is intense, that's about as far as my praise can honestly go. The game feels lazy and rushed despite the years they spent working on it. Very disappointed, not gonna lie
The lock on is such a bitch. The amount of times some nasty enemy is charged at me, I go to lock on and the game goes "Hay look, there's a sheep a mile away!". Honestly just fuck this game 😂😂
the mimic tear tanks more dps because you upgrade it with materials, upgrading it increases its healthpool, max mimic has lots of health
There’s also a problem if you do a jump heavy or any heavy attack and let go of the heavy button but not the light attack it will automatically register as you clicked an attack and it so frustrating. So you have to completely let go of of the attack button while your in the air. It doesn’t seem like it’s intended to do that.
Ps I’m a mnk player so controller players might have the same issue
Although I have been absolutely enamored by Elden Ring, I don't personally think it's a 10/10. I would give it 8.5 as a personal score. The technical and design issues you highlighted are definitely some things that irked me at first, but playing the game more made them annoy me less and less over time; maybe that's Stockholm Syndrome? Haha.
Good video, you explained yourself really well imo. Here's hoping you find a title that hooks you within the release year.
Best wishes, dude.
Well 10/10 in games reviews doesn't mean perfect. If you see ign or others 10/10 means masterpiece.
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I am aware of this, but I am not going to call Elden Ring a masterpiece... yet. I know it's still too early to speculate on what DLC may come (and bring), but if it's anything like From's previous ventures into extended content, it will elevate the game to even greater heights or at least round out the lore to the point where it's at least a narrative masterpiece.
PS
Although I'm aware that this is Miyazaki's style, I am of the opinion that there just isn't enough connecting tissue to the game's overall plot. Too much is left open to interpretation for a story of this scale. Again, just my opinion.
even then the game is getting Biased Favorism the game has SHIT PC Performance but the community is like 'IT JUST WORKS!' wait isnt that what we bitch at Todd Howard @ FO76 over and such oh wait we just going to let this games community and designers and such get away with? K Hyprocrit community 100%.
@@PlatonicHesaf ER is not a masterpiece, it has extremely glaring flaws eg. Terrible balancing late game and a lot of horrible boss designs
@@MapleFried @Christopher Lapensee well what you said about it's plot made me wonder. Because it's not a really bad thing at all and actually this is what most of people enjoy about elden ring's plot. This open story is something that you can find in bloodborne even more and it's lore is a masterpiece because of this.
Very good review, it’s refreshing to hear an opinion that’s not bowing down to this game. I share a lot of your critiques especially regarding the story/lore. I keep hearing how rich it is but I can’t seem to see it. Great game yes, but it has its warts and i definitely agree that we aren’t holding this game to the same standard as others.
There's lore in the game? I'm halfway through and I have no fking clue what the game is actually about. I'm just grinding my way towards a huge tree, that's it.
@@fred6907 Lol it actually does have a lot of lore it’s just deeply buried, I’ve gone and watched RUclips videos of souls lore “experts” and it’s pretty cool. I think most people who play these games don’t uncover most of the lore on their own even though they’ll lie and act like they do. Most people watch lore videos on RUclips because it’s so hard to uncover and understand.
I felt that constantly having to google everything to figure anything out pulled me right out of it
Probably going to get it on my laptop instead of Xbox One S but is ER still stuttering on PC?
The world being smaller with out torrent is something i've said a few times ... the horse combat is horseshit ...
You can't see what's happening, cause of effects ... hah even when there are no effects the camera starts rotating randomly in some locations, camera spinning while fighting.
Npc placements are stupid esp. for hyetta.
The statue was pretty obvious by it's name, by the description and if you try to use the altar with out it it says "something fits here" or something similar...
I loved the difficulty spike, at the end I think the devs where betting on people being to op with all the things you can you in the game... Whenever i felt stuck i just whipped out some op ash of war...
The mimic needs more defense and hp so he can last, mimic is stupid won't dodge/ roll....
You do make some great points though, it's a good game but it has problems, hopefully they return to the more linear world.
When he loves 76 and shits in Elden ring 🤦
@Charles Hastings what's so funny is he claims to have beat every souls like game including sekiro (hardest souls like game by far) and then says elden ring is hard.... this game is a fucking joke compared to other souls games
Lmfao I was just thinking that
@@appleseed445 sekiro was the devil in video game format. That's one game that broke me. Still love it tho
@@appleseed445 1st sekiro was the easiest, once you learn the patterns even isshin is super easy
2nd so you think maliketh, godfrey, malenia, radagon and elden beast are a joke compared to other souls bosses? Yeah finish the game before saying your opinion
@@appleseed445 not really tbh, the older souls games really weren't that hard outside a few outlier bosses; like, SSI, Artorias, SNG, Sir Alonne, some of best fights in the series, are actually quite simple, hell for Gael i died only once, and SSI i managed to get on my first try.
The only things the older games do have thats harder is lack of direction, but even then that's really only for the first game and sekiro to an extent
Respect your opinion. A lot of good points made 💪🏾 you’re also not an idiot. Almost all the best weapons and armor I have are because I used a guide to get thru it
No the input lag is absolutely RIDICULOUS lol
I honestly don’t know if it’s just supposed to be like that in order to make the game more difficult and punish you for just button mashing or just technically crappy…..
It took time to get used to….I didn’t really think to take points away from it for that….
Within the context of open world games Elden Ring is imo the apex experience and deserved every praise. However there is one thing it is missing: emotion. As excellent as it is, to me it will never surpass those extraordinary story driven experiences such as God of War or Death Stranding
ER follows many of its predecessors in that you the player are thrusted into a dying world way past its heyday. Every event of import has already happened, and all the major players are well pasted their prime. It's a fascinating stylistic choice, but I will argue it does not fit an open world game all that well. A world is more than just the scenic views and beautiful landscapes, it is also the people and their various cultures that help give the world more life.
The only thing good about it is it looks pretty. Every other aspect of it is still stuck in the early 2000’s. If you give this game a good score I genuinely couldn’t care less about your opinions because you’re obviously way too easily impressed by “Oo pretty”
About the story, I'm halfway the game and I got this. There's this Greater Will who really, REALLY want that Golden Order thing to go on despite things being bad as it is. Like even the God-Queen decided to break said Order intentionally due to it being bad in the hope it would end.
Even then there are other Outer Gods like the Greater Will that wants to have their way in the Lands Between but you have to find them yourself.
Thank you
@@tzzeek I might be wrong tho.
@@VVabsa But you also might be right. One thing i noticed was a lot of npcs were really fed up with this greater will and their fingers bs. Flame lord was the better ending for me.
@@tzzeek Prone towards taking that route too due to the merchants and omen thing.
@@VVabsa burn it all. Order out of chaos. Merchants break my heart, can't believe some people actually murder them, smh.
This was my first soulsborne game, the only complain i have is that its high time they improve the animations. after playing other AAA games, jumping into this i found the controls and movement very janky. they need to make it more fluid.
I wish the game was 60fps on pc. My rtx 3060 on LOW SETTING AT 800x600 resolution STILL can’t get a locked fps. I can get 60 but my average is 50
This dude said Lost Ark is a "damn good game" and then criticized Elden Ring. Help me out here.
Lost Ark is newer to him and he may have overplayed the souls genre and Elden Ring didn't "revolutionize" what DS3 was enough for his expectations. Smarter people than I have mentioned Expectation is the killer of enjoyment, and I feel like this is the case here.
The first half of the video is him bitching about 60fps and other very minor "problems" lmao. Not even the actual performance issues there are and were. This is is some serious pc elitist shit here lmao. Most people barely hit 60 on good rigs with high resolution. However there is some valid points in there and while I disagree with a lot this is far from the worst takes I've seen on the game
Guy says "Elden Ring is bad game" then says "I simp for fallout 76"... You don't need any help he's burying himself lol
@@henryko4994 didn't revolutionized??? This game literally is the most different one in all the series.
@@sparkyspinz9897 PC elites confirmed. He talks about e-sports like that's the end all be all. I like Overwatch a lot but I'm never watching overwatch league EVER. I don't care what the incentive is to watch. In fact I HATE how Blizzard gatekeeps content behind these "watch the twitch strimmer" shit. Put the content in the game! Ok, rant over.
Only thing we need to do is tone down the damage of the end game. Perfect after that. I need to stop getting hit for 60% health by a normal enemy in the haligtree.
That's really my biggest issue because the game is like here's a pack of 5 enemies but they can all two shot you
Not sure. Enemies still have a 10 hits combo that you have to perfectly dodge if you want a single chance of maybe hitting them once...I don't really like this style of play, I feel no agency
Elden Ring was amazing the first time I played it.
I'm now on NG+ and I just don't feel the same urge to explore and fight bosses anymore, because you know what? I've done it. And the game is so long and I've seen most of the secrets that it just kind of feels tedious to have to chew through all the lower tier content to get to the end again.
Endgame bosses are straight up unfair bullshit, hitting so hard that even at 60 Vigor, you need to essentially do a no-hit run on bosses like Maliketh and Malenia to have any chance at winning, which most players can't do.
Weapons and skills are still busted, with a few like Rivers of Blood and Moonveil Katana, as well as Bloodhound Step dominating PvP and even PvE while if you use anything else you're going to die.
Like another RUclipsr said, Elden Ring is the single greatest game that I never want to replay.
Yea I tried ng+ I just couldn't do it again and what is weird is it truly is the best game I ever played. I think it's because I did every single side quest and dungeon and got every item so there just wasn't anything left to explore
Git gud
I wanted to buy Sekiro, but I can't find a new copy, only used ones, so I bought elden ring... I don't know if I'm liking the experience after 15 hours. Is a mix of fun, amazement, frustration and boredom. If only I could get more of the fun stuff, like not dying 50 times on a boss because I need to kill 500 little guys to level up enough first. I was expecting something closer to monster hunter, a "very hard monster hunter", but I got "I wanna be the guy ninja gaiden 3D punishment edition".
@@JesusProtects it's really easy if you know we're to go Wich build use and what to get but Ina first time experience try to use an arcane bleed build
@@JesusProtects Just wait until you get to the endgame. If you think it's hard now, you will be stunned at how some of the last few bosses move and how hard they hit.
Yeah this game has lots of annoying shit. I mentioned this on the subreddit about there being an annoying abundance of enemies that are there to strictly be excruciating. I learned about this pretty early with the Nox twins. They're not explicitly difficult on their own, it's just the fact that they UNFAIRLY team against you. Like sure a duo, but when both of them are just CRACKED and specifically back away and wait boiled my blood.
i really want to like this game, but it's just so big, so empty and so unrewarding, I can't play it for more than 15 minutes without thinking of something better to do with my time
There is no story to speak of either. Just aimlessly walking towards a huge tree, nothing is explained along the way. The initial intro makes no sense..."Elden Lords something something".......ok, cool I guess.
Finally not just a fanboy, the game was so overrated
On Xbox the fps and input lag is pretty bad compared to ps5 it was something I noticed immediately idk about pc, I was wondering why it felt like that not realizing the frame drops are the problem.
Hey man, what's the media player that you're showing that clip from at 18:09 ?
it's called the movies & tv app, was just the default for mp4 files when i installed windows
@@_Crazyman64335 I see, Thank you!
This is my first Soulslike, but I agree with you mostly. It's a good game, but not as good as some people are trying to hype it up as. Elden Ring will probably get GOTY anyway, but that speaks more to the state of modern games than anything else.
Think it's less to do with modern games and more to do with the fact that the Game Awards are as meaningless as the Oscars. It's a popularity contest and nothing more. 2020 pretty much definitively proved that when the Last of Us 2 beat games like Final Fantasy 7 Remake, Doom: Eternal and Ghost of Tsushima, all of which are infinitely better games. I didn't really watch or care much about the Game Awards but 2020 is when I lost any last shred of care I had about it. Especially when they came out point blank saying player feedback literally only makes up 10% of the vote so the players don't matter whatsoever.
Elden Ring shits on every game this year just in means of how content is in the game. Games these days have little to no content and Elden Ring is chalk full of content
@@jeremycampbell4021 TLOU2 was a lightyears betetr game than all the once you mentioned. Easily.
so you say most of 70+ critic around the world is not good to review game now a day?
and opinion from you guys better than them?
@@GOffensive FUCK. NO.
I love Elden Ring, I love Fromsoft, but Elden Ring is *HIGHLY HIGHLY* over-rated, unfinished, and poorly playtested. The game needed atleast another 2 years before release. From should be ashamed of this game. It's supposed to be the culmination of 10 years of game creation yet they didn't so much as address the problems that have plauged the series since DeS and have ramped up the artificial difficulty exponentially.
I think Elden Ring is rated perfectly IMO
Your white dude who cares?
@@TheWill0fStrength 🤓
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The issue outside of the final boss is because of so many people trying to summon
can somebody explain why everyone hates the 60 fps cap
It is just an open world dark soul with a horse.
Love this game too but it's getting so f'ng hard after beating godrick, rennala, and radahn. Enemies in late game don't even stagger when you hit them hard and have no wait time in between attacks. But if I get hit...sends me to my knees. And no damage indictors on enemies after being hit. Need more of like what happens to the octopi-legs getting chopped off during battle.
It all depends on what you spend on stats.
And the weapons you use.
Whats the refresh on your tv?
Valid criticisms IMO. I beat Dark Souls back in the day but haven’t played a souls/borne since until Elden Ring. While I absolutely love this game there are undeniably massive issues with some of the technical aspects of the game. Dragons require torrent or else they get really buggy behavior. I’ve had dragons Spider-Man wallcling because I was unmourned whacking their tummies. That one then no clipped because it’s X and Y axises flipped. The number of dragons that fly out of their arena ranges and have to reset is insane! Breath weapons that completely ignore geography/geometry.
But still overall addictively fun game 😅
Addictive? Yes. Fun? Are we playing the same game??? It’s not fun, it’s incredibly lackluster and drawn out, as well as way too overly stressful for a GAME. It’s honestly hot garbage, and is WAYYY overhyped. This is coming from someone with almost 200hrs in the game btw. The only thing good about it is the graphics but everyone can’t stop creaming their pants over an incredibly mediocre game simply because it looks good.
@@jacksondiers582 TBH I thought the graphics were rather last gen and not that impressive. It was the gameplay and design that was the allure and appeal for me. Fun being a subjective thing it is rather unfortunate that you didn't enjoy the game. After 500+ hours in Elden Ring I'd say it was anything but overhyped.
There's always a game that comes out every few years that everyone is supposed to like it but a lot of people think it's overrated Witcher 3 and Elden ring
and skyrim
How much health you have? Takes up like half the screen lol
Bro I agree so hard. Exploring the world is just exhausting and you get bored of the game after a few hours of exploring. Some things in the game are recycled I agree. Enemy variety is meh. The bosses are cool but it doesn't give the feeling of "wow this boss is fukin incredible dude" like the older games did.
They pushed the engine too hard. Probably should have went with Unreal or scaled back the assets. Wasn't an issue with Sekiro which ran buttery smooth. Repeat bosses and two on one boss battles felt like padded content. Would have been better if they reduced the game's size.
I had no issue with my 1070 at 1440p and Ryzen 7
Tbh they are working with this engine for over 10 years. If they went for Unreal, they would need to create many custom tools to work with. Whole team would have to learn Unreal + they couldn't reuse any animations from DS3
Going Unreal would be dumb idea. Do you realise how much money and time they would have to spend to even start development?
@@Nazylexx Studios switch to licensed engines to save money, not to spend more. That's the entire point of an off the shelf engine. Otherwise, the tradeoff for the licensing fees wouldn't even be worth it. Unreal's level streaming in particular would have been far superior for this open world game. If Unreal didn't save you money in development time, their entire business model would fail. It's meant for teams that don't have the engineering staff capable of building and maintaining a custom engine that needs to be overhauled every 5-10 years due to lighting and tech advancements. You leverage the tools Epic gives you instead of creating and supporting commonly used tech engineering things like physics tools, character mocap mapping, etc. Animations don't need to be recreated from scratch. The animation cycles aren't typically authored in-engine. Maya/Blender/Max etc. Then exported into the game engine. But even if that were not the case, skeletal anim data is universal.
Capcom has the resources to maintain their own engine on the tech side, but probably not From Software. That's my take.
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All use Unreal so it's not like you couldn't do this style of game in the engine and I'm sure From Software would be more than capable of making their full vision without compromises. That's my opinion at least.
@@rodneyabrett I don't deny that FS could make a game in Unreal.
They are Japanese developer with their mindset "We do what we actually want to do". Their engine is custom made for them. Idk how many Japanese developers uses Unreal (I know that Ghostwire Tokyo was on UE4) but you have that language barrier can be a reason also.
Even Miyazaki isn't speaking English at all.
I don't feel like studio should abandon their own engine because Unreal is popular. We need competition on game market to avoid monopoly from Epic.
I feel like porting their games to Unreal could create many problems we are not aware of.
Oh man you really really need to play bloodborne. It's by far the best out of all the soulsborne games
I too have missed inputs when I spam buttons.
Which boss filtered you?
Now that u realize it it will bother u every fromsoft game.
Most gamers aint real gamers & will shit on other games for issues but ignore elden rings or fromsoft bullshit like they blind.
Every time I hear "industry standard" for an inherently artistic medium like video game development my brain just shuts off tbh. The game is frame capped at 60 because the frame issues would be exacerbated at higher framerates and the Souls games timings are frame dependant so if you up the framerate it'll fuck up the timings. It's funny because all of these issues are hard baked into FromSoft's outdated engine and everyone is acting like it's suddenly not okay now. These issues have been a part of the Souls games ever since Dark Souls and they will remain as long as From refuses to update their archaic game engine.
Exactly! Bern here since DS and the FPS always been an issue! Even the latest rigs/PC are having trouble keeping ER steady in FPS.
This what happens when people praise to much. Look at Bethsanda and CD Project. It was not until Fallout 76 and Cyberpunk that these devs are updating or in the case of CD Project getting a New one. Its going to take Them failing to get them to update.
If you spam it might not count it since its designed to que those up.. We called them out on the bad performance on pc. Player unable to be summoned might be just that soneone summoned them before you could summon them.
I personally just used radahns great swords with lionels armor basically the whole late game op strat I’m telling ya
Personally I would give it a 7 or 7.5..Its good but it's not all what they hype makes it out to be. A lot of your points I agree with the boss repetition,the fall damage and the open world is kind of boring. Also the graphics aren't what I expected either it kind of looks the same as dark souls 3 but other than those things I enjoyed the boss fights and pvp is fun and the lore is very interesting.
Same, at first when i started it was a high 8.5 but the further I got, and noticing there is no real story, and all the bugs + riding torrent felt so sluggish which I hated I had to drop the score to around a 7 or 7.5 as well.
same at first i might have given it a 9 but there's so many issues like knowing where to go or even to get rannis ending which you ain't doing without a guide. As for the bosses well there's the repetition and also i really dislike the delayed attacks and input reading and the enemies are really fast too. Now it's probably a 7 for me cause towards the end i wasn't really having fun. Playing this game blind would be not fun to say the least even though that is probably the best way to experience games.
I feel like you're misrepresenting the amount of bad things tbh. It's like 75/25 ratio of good to bad content imo. I feel like they should've just deleted the snow area early in dev and spent more time refining everything else. But it was still the best open world experience ever for me, it just doesn't manage to keep it up because of the sheer size of the game.
I'm curious what u mean by best open experience. Cause I absolutely love this game but to me it's open world isn't better then Skyrim,Witcher, RDR2, botw or even horizon wests open worlds. The world is fun and dangerous but I wouldn't put that experience ahead of any of the games I've listed.
@@KingEaglez29 How the game gives you just the condition for progression and then throws you into the world without telling what to do. You're driven entirely by just your own curiosity to explore and everything about the world feels handcrafted. Even the dungeons that use the same assets will have unique tricks especially later into the game. It just never feels like you're doing some "activity" that the developers just placed around the map. Also having only the win condition given to you makes nothing feel like a list of tasks to fulfill, you're given a problem to solve to and the freedom to take your own route through the game.
@@hachikuji_mayoi so basically it's just the no quest log? Me personally it was my first souls like game I found the whole lack of direction kinda jarring. Resulted in me often going on RUclips and being like where do I go next elden ring. But hey that's just me 🤷🏻♂️
@@KingEaglez29 It's not specifically the lack of quest log. It's also how you can complete nearly everything outside of order or just skip entirely as like 75% of the game is optional.
I actually wouldn't mind a sort of quest log.
Like in morrowind npcs will tell you where to go and you'll actually be engaging with the world around you to navigate to the location instead of just mindlessly follow a pointer. Like iirc right at the start of morrowind you'll be instructed to meet a specific person in a different location. You can either walk there or ride a silt strider and when you're there you'll have to find the house that person is in. If you forget where to go you'll have the instructions written down in your quest journal. Like that is imo way superior to a marker just pointing out exactly where to go. Elden ring had some of that type of questing with especially the ranni quest but I do wish they had given us a journal to remember the quests more easily.
@@KingEaglez29 fact I like the game so far but
my frames tend to drop alot during the godfrey spectre fight
I agree with a lot of your opinions. Like you, I like the game as well, but it is, by no means, the best game of all time, and I don't think this should be game of the year. The open world is too big, a huge amount of it is just empty space (although it is a pretty empty space). I just don't have the time to check every nook and cranny, and exploration is just not very engaging to me. I played partly blind, but also used Fightin' Cowboy's walkthrough to make sure I didn't miss the majority of the game.
the side activities all get super repetitive and boring far before the end of the game. Every catacomb looks the same, with only two or three enemy types and endlessly repeating bosses. The caves aren't much better although there is a little more variety. The mines are probably the coolest side dungeon activity, but even they're pretty repetitive. Even the Hero Graves, which are the most unique side dungeons are pretty much all the same. When you really, honestly think about it, aren't the catacombs, caves, hero graves, and mines just enemy outposts/enemy camps/watch towers/radio towers from other open world games that gamers love to shit on nowadays? They're just not labeled on the map until you find them. I ask that honestly. In Elden Ring, they're dotted all across the map, you go in, loot, kill shit, and fight a boss. In the other open world games, you go into the enemy camp, loot, kill everyone and take it over. Does the boss make it that much more different?
The open world, at least in my opinion makes completing the quests (that are actually fully implemented) utterly tedious unless you constantly search everywhere periodically in order to see if an NPC moved, or use a walkthrough. Selene's questline, for example, after you release her body from that underground chamber. How am I supposed to know she's going to show up in Seluvis's puppet room thing? Maybe its tied to some item description or something, or maybe she says something about it, but I just didn't remember, but I know for certain that without a walkthrough of that questline, I would never have found her again, because I felt like I had no reason to return to that area. Latena's questline is another good example. I ran into her something like 20-25 hours into the game, after I was done with Limgrave and Stormveil, but before the Academy. The next time you do anything with her is pretty much at the end of the game, for me something like 50 hours later. I had completely forgotten about who she was, that I had her as a summon, and even that part of her quest gave me half of the secret medallion to get to the snowfield area. Without a walkthrough, I 100% would have missed the end to her quest.
Then we get to the combat. I think the problem with the combat is the result of several other sub-issues. First, I feel like Elden RIng enemies and bosses read the players' input far more than other souls games. Granted its been a while since I played DS3 or Sekiro, but I don't remember those games having that issue. Second, I think in an effort to make this game more accessible (which I have absolutely no problem with, the more people that play, the more successful the game is, and the more likely we are to get more From Soft games, I can't stand the gatekeeping that some of this community engages in) the developers coded and designed the enemies and bosses in such a way where they're balanced to be fought with at least one summon. Without a summon, the bosses attack the player non-stop with far fewer and obvious attack openings. That combined with their ability to read inputs makes what appear to be openings, punishments to the player and ridiculously difficult. Then there are instances where a boss will go through a 5-30 part attack, after which you'd assume they would need some cooldown time, and an opening to punish if you dodge and/or block their attacks, but they immediately run away and out of range and start a new attack string before you can punish. On the opposite end, when you do summon, the bosses - even Melenia - are too easy. I think Melenia took me five tries, but only because I used a summon, I beat Malaketh on the first try, because I had a summon, I beat Morgot on the first try, I beat Mohg (both versions on the first try), etc., all because I had a summon to split the aggro.
By the end of the game, I just wanted it to be over, I don't think I've ever felt that way about a souls game from From Soft. I've played them all apart from Bloodborne and Demons Souls, but I do intend on playing both of them. Sure I've gotten frustrated playing them in the past, but each time I've beaten one of the others for the first time, I felt 100 times more accomplished than when I beat Elden Ring. When I beat Elden RIng, I didn't feel accomplished or proud, I just felt exhausted and couldn't wait to move onto the next thing.
In conclusion, Elden RIng is a good game, and for the first 30-50 hours I was truly enjoying myself, but once I realized how repetitive and unfair it is, especially in the late game, I just wanted it to be over. In my opinion, it is the weakest of all the souls games from From Soft.
Of course, these are just my opinions, and they are not meant to insult/discount any others' feelings toward the game who enjoy it more than me.
Jesus Christ, I did not intend to write an essay. Sorry!
8:12 I disagree with this point. If it’s overwhelming to you thats a preference and it’s probably best you don’t play open world games. I found it therapeutic to mentally keep track of places i need to come back to and explore. It helps me distract myself from reality, and is probably one of my favorite aspects of this game.
And what do you think about the MASSIVE empty wastelands, even in legacy dungeons like leyndell capital, where you have THOUSANDS of nooks and crannies with NOTHING, AT BEST you can find some random herb or an upgrade material, but most of the time it's just random ass hidden places with nothing.
So much wasted space. It's infuriating me. Seriously it gives me anxiety cuz i recently played Bloodborne to get the last 2 trophies and the chalice dungeons had better level design than the legacy dungeons.
The only dungeon i actually enjoyed both for level design and for atmosphere, was raya lucaria academy. But even that one had some AWFUL level design, like the big MASSIVE road with staircases in the middle of the map and the rooftops part.
It actually peaked at the elevator that gets you down to that enemy that can kidnap you to vulcano manor. And it's like the only dungeon that didn't have recycled enemies, but new ones.
When i was in leyndell, fighting the same dogs since dark souls 1, the same knights since dark souls 3 recycled 10 times in elden ring for every single region, the same zombie guys and then the goddamn tree spirits miniboss dropped down, my balls dropped. It literally made me groan out loud and say "SERIOUSLY??!!! AGAIN?!".
And they also pulled a Bloodborne, recycling the round table safe place in the leyndell capital...WHY? In Bloodborne it made sense, it's a dream and the host of the dream had his safe place recreated just like the doll. Why the fuck is the round table in leyndell?? It's so LAME
@PokiiiChiii no. It's not garbage. All the problems it has stem from the fact that it's open world, just like Witcher im struggling to finish it.
Oh and Witcher is bad. Way worse and 10 times more boring. Elden ring is an 8.5/10, Witcher 3 is a 7/10
@PokiiiChiii struggling to finish it BECAUSE ITS BORING.
@PokiiiChiii yes. Way more. In the Witcher all you do is walk run and ride the fkn bugged to hell horse, just to find yourself talking to random people, follow map markers the whole time, then you gotta go to the store and sell shit (and it's shit, random shit) cuz you are encumbered.
That is Witcher Exploration.
In elden ring you visit new places and find and fight new enemies (when they aren't recycled), talk to NPCs, do their quests without following any markers, you learn the story actively by the few cutscenes, the dialogue and reading descriptions of items.
Souls games are way more active, Witcher is reactive the whole game. It's nice cuz there's a literal shitload of reactive quests and dialogues but it's still boring reactive shit, with some bad combat sprinkled in. And the movement system itself is bad in the Witcher.
But that's from my perspective, i don't like classic RPGs that have dogshit gameplay and rely entirely on having hundreds of hours of repetitive quests where all you do is going from point A to point B, talking to someone, rinse and repeat, with some combat encounters here and there.
Exploring in souls games means literally exploring the map, exploring in Witcher 3 is running in an empty wasteland until you find a marker that starts a stupid quest.
If Witcher had minimal story and quests like Elden ring, it would just be a bad game.
If elden ring had the same amount of npcs and quests as Witcher 3, it would be the best Witcher game ever made for the next 100 years.
sekiro and bloodborne will always be on top. i’ll be REALLY surprised if they top those
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The 60 fps cap does suck i could running at 240fps in 1440p
I think Elden Ring took a lot of boss techniques from Sekiro. I heard you liked Sekiro a lot. Remember how the bosses would react to your positioning and stance, to the point where you can make the boss do certain attacks. Elden Ring definitely has that core "If this then that" and I think it kinda pissed some DS players since its not a "Wait and react".
Well, I've been really looking for that and there weren't a lot of bosses with such mechanics, Margit probably I suppose and maybeeee Malenia but Im not sure?
Saint Riot made a video on it. It does exist. I've incorporated it into my playstyle and it alleviated a lot of the issues I had. You CANNOT play this like a Dark Souls game.
Sekiro You Could Sprint Fast As Hell Against Bosses - Jump Over Attacks Quickly & Punish Moves Just As Swiftly As The Boss - I Hardly Seen That In Elden Ring Bosses - Your Evade Is Just Rolling & Slow Sprint & Weak Blocks In Elden Ring - Sekiro Combat Is Far Superior
@@WhiteGirlJessica they’re fundamentally different, if sekiro’s combat system was in elden ring, it would not work
@@Kyrnyx so why is everything mechanics wise for the player like ds3?
Yah personally I did not enjoy the open world at all… the legacy dungeons and underground/hidden areas were the best but there’s sooo many reused bosses that didn’t need to be in the game. They are just there for loot and exp. Also, just use the black bow, your horse, bleed and rot arrows for dragons lol it’s easier then easy
Most open worlds re use bosses buddy its how the genre is so if you're giving elden ring flak for that then you are also speaking about every single open world game.
@@OldMusicHeaven Umm, he didn't say it was only Elden Ring that does this. He just doesn't like reused bosses.
@@OldMusicHeaven
Reuse of assets in any game is not the worst thing. Monster Hunter is one of my favorite franchises and the whole point is to fight the same catalogue of monsters over and over again. But ER is not all that effective with their reuse and the synergy of ER's various mechanics make that ineffectiveness worst sometimes.
For example: The minor dungeons. The loot obtained from that side content is often a gamble. The reuse of environmental assets and enemies do not effectively inform us the nature of the loot they provide, so the only way to find out if a dungeon has good loot is to complete it. But because of the strict manner that builds work in ER, all that work clearing the dungeon could have been for naught since the loot you get doesn't contribute to your build. Horizon: Forbidden West also reuses enemy types, but the game is more efficient than ER in communicating what kind of loot the player can expect from said enemies. That communication allows players to have a choice to either ignore that enemy as they have no need for that loot or fight them for that needed loot.
It's not half the game Bloodbourne is. It's not even close.
Also, to clarify. Did you run into input lag or input queue issues? The game, 270 hours thay ive played has never lagged on me, input wise. But the input queue is atrocious. When you talked about the lag issues, how you would be spamming and nothing you were wanting it to do was happening perfectly describes the issues with the input queue in this game. It makes me wonder if you have misdiagnosed the issue, and yes, it's a big issue.
Input queue was present in most the previous games but the window where you could do it was so small. In ER, let's say you go to attack then dodge out. You hit attack then start hitting dodge. In previous games, it qould queue up like maybe 20 frames before the animation ended. So if the boss decides to attack, you can change your plan on the fly and dodge out quicker.
In ER, the queue is like half the previous animation. So if they start to attack as you are and you have hit the attack button one time halfway through the first animation you're stuck with the next attack even though there could still be .75 seconds between the pressing of the button and the end of the animation.
Contrast this with Sekiro. You can stop any attack with a block/parry. You can go to attack. The katana one inch from their face. And you can block before it hits them. In fact, once you learn this, you can use it to your advantage to bait out their blocks or attacks.
uhm its there for everybody. You dont magically have the one copy in the world with a different code lol. So either you are lying, or just way too dumb to notice it making you seem like a clown here buddy.
I believe the problem is that Fromsoft attempted to create a hybrid of their own formula and the open-world RPG, I dare say, without consulting an expert in an open-world RPG, why not scale the bosses to the character's level? wanna make it challenging? scale it to the character's level + 5.
About the quests I completely agree with you, there is this character Nepheli, half the game she is crestfallen, you have to bring her a specific summon/key that is not mentioned ANYWHERE but very minor lip-service in very few item-descriptions, now are the quests of an addict looking fella, a noble and a the mentioned above warrior woman related to eachother? apparently so because these three questions converge to eachother and don't tell me explore and find out because it converges in Limgrave,
And that's also where they haven't listened to an open-world RPG expert, once you finish Limgrave there is no reason to go there, the game advances in a somewhat linear fashion, where as for example, skyrim you can be level 50 but still have reasons to go the Riverwood and Whiterun which are according to the story's flow very early game locations.
It’s apparent that they didn’t need to consult other open work RPG devs… people are loving elden rings open work RPG mechanics for more than they do other open world games. Elden Rings open world feels like a breath of fresh air.
Scaling bossies would kill the fun imo. They’re already difficult. Making them impossible for the average player means they’re won’t bother buying DLC or a sequel.
Scaling enemies to a player's level ALWAYS feels cheap and lame. There's no good way to do it, period. But the fact that the game is somewhat linear despite being open world means you'll probably never be way off in terms of your level progression, unless you decide to go back to previous areas and explore more. I really don't see what the problem is with any of this, and I think it worked very well.
@@calebbonny8848 lol, game plays exactly like every MMO ever, not a new concept.
There's a video on RUclips about secret stuff in the game and I remember a lore detail that can only be discovered by making a specific emote on a specific place in front of a big statue. I mean, who is going to find that by themselves without a guide?
I think I agree with most of this. The game is absolutely amazing, but obviously nothing is perfect.
I think the reason people hold the developers to such a high regard, compared to other devs, which is what you were asking in the beginning, is that we know they care. A lot of developments nowadays are focused on making a game that fits into the norm, so they can be comfortable that it will reach a certain amount of sales, and will make a certain amount of money. The sheer risk that fromsoft take, by having controversial game, with no pay to win aspects or micro transactions, is a big one. But it’s just so nice to see a big developer that isn’t trying to do what everyone else is, and that is why people gush so much about fromsoftware.
Also you should finish the ringed city dlc of dark souls 3, it has one of the most fun boss fights in any game I’ve ever played
Yeah, but, like, it is almost perfect, it could've been the best game of all time
Like, the first three areas of the game are very good - most of the enemies and bosses there are fair&balanced (with exception of margit bcuz of his counterattacks why the hell they've done that, and some regular mobs are way too annoying), there is almost no repetition and none of the weapons and weapon arts are over-the-top (like BHS, RoB or MV), like if they've simply followed the DS3's formula (which imo is the best one (but i haven't played sekiro and BB so idk))
And then it all went downhill from there
Goddammit, From...
It’s not controversial though dude. Fromsoft isn’t reinventing the wheel over here with their games, they’re just reinventing dark souls. And not by a whole lot. They essentially just reskin it, slap a new name on it and there you have it, a new fromsoft game. Elden ring is just dark souls 2.0. Little to nothing has changed about it other than graphics and story.
I once complained that Demons Souls didn't have enough content but now after playing Elden Ring I realise that it has the perfect amount of content but that's just my opinion
I thought rolling wasn't based on input lag, and was based around when you release the button, not instantly when you press it (because it's the run button as well)? It's why I hate the game too, because it forces you to think a millisecond ahead, or pray that you get lucky and dodge correctly. Worse than that is the action-queue 🤧🤧
The game's still way more enjoyable & satisfying than most games on the market. But it'll still make me want to throw my controller every now and then 🙃
This game feels like it needed at least 6 more months of development to finely tune damage dealt by bosses and cut some unnecessary dungeons caves and hero graves.
Radahn before patch was absolutely ridiculous and made me put down the game for about 2 weeks and once i found out they nerfed him, i came back and he felt like a true fair and balanced fight. i feel some of the end game bosses need this adjustment, in all honesty radahn is a little too over-tuned but little tweaks like that will really help new players in the months to come to not have such a grueling and seemingly unfair experience.
Bloodborne will always be my favorite because the challenge feels the fairest and the skill gap is at its best imo i wish Elden Ring borrowed more from Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne rather than the unfair sides of DS2 and extreme level of difficulty and skill gap of Sekiro while also not giving you the proper tools to overcome those challenges in a fair and challenging way (cheesing with bleed and mimic isn’t a solution).
I was expecting something different, like Sekiro, hence "Elden Ring" and not "Dark Souls. George RR Martin slapped his name on the box and it's been all flattery since. Just Dark Rolls with spaz freak giant bosses that are generally off-screen attacking, with a purposeless "open world" that adds nothing but tedium to the game. Not much replay value.
I will give 1 strike to lack of backup saves. I played on console but played on cloud too because I work a lot and away from home. I came home to play on my console after being away a week and it automatically loaded up the console save and I lost my whole week of progression. I'm talking rot dragon, the rot general at the heart of Caelid, Volcano Manor Rycard, Millicent entire quest, Godfrey, Morgot, the general with the 2 night summons guarding him, Concicrated snowfield, ice dragon, rivers of blood, bell bearings for miners and somber 5-9, both medalions to the second grand lift, fire giant rivers of blood, moonveil, ice dragon in the lake, god skin duo 1 and 2, Crumbling area ...I felt sick.
I struggled with the first horse knight, then I got the horse, and did some need for speed red dead redemption dark souls combat, and just waited for it to swing, and ran by and swung once, then hit the nitro and got out.
It's because the physics engine is tied to the framerate (which is bad)
Starfield will definitely have 60 fps because it's Bethesda