"My dislike of Dark Souls 3" And here it is ladies and gentlemen, the reason we don't need to watch the video any further! Thank you all for coming, it was a nice 4 minutes, but now I must leave and block this channel, so that this garbage does not show up in my feed anymore.
Idk what u expected from a guy that uses block button insted of dodge, he also has elden ring as 6th best souls game, idk what's wrong the ppl like him who say "i love dark souls games" and don't even have ds1/ds2/ds3/elden ring as top 1 game pathetic
One of my favorite things about the game that didn't get mentioned is how defensive parts are separate from the costumes, so you can be as drippy as you want and still have whatever defenses you want for ur build
@@Zyckroyou dont really need a reason tho just do it lmao. fun gameplay mechanics should take precedent over lore in almost every circumstance. people are gonna remember being able to do something fun, they aren’t gonna give a fuck that you can dress up differently without a lore explanation for why it works
It's a basic feature that should be present in any game of a similar type. FS not adding it to their games is just their usual bullshit like no pause menu or whataver. They like making the game experience a little shitty. Just because.
@@masterofsorrow2699 Your thinking is too shallow. Fromsoft not only does it for in-lore reasons, but because of co-op and invasions. A player should be able to look at another player and instantly tell how much poise they may/may not have, along with their defense. Wouldn't it be really stupid and annoying if you went to go fight a naked player, and they actually had havel's armor on but you just couldn't tell? It's funny you also bring up the no pause menu in the same comment, because it exists for similar reasons. 1# you can't just pause the game because being able to do so would take the stress out of encounters if you were allowed to catch your breath. Fromsoft's worlds are living and breathing, you can only catch breaks at bonfires or safe areas. 2# Fromsoft's games are always online with messages, player phantoms, and invaders. It should go without saying that a multiplayer game cannot have a pause button. Just because you don't understand something, doesn't mean it doesn't make sense or have reasons. Fromsoft knows what they're doing.
This game is wonderful in every aspect but one thing I don't see many people talking about is the soundtrack. The soundtrack is insane. I remember being so dissapointed when I got a record from completing a quest and then I took it back to the hotel and figured "why not see what this record is like" And then I turned on the collectable masterpiece known as Feel and just sat there for like 10 minutes listening to it on repeat.
When comparing the total of works against each other, Lies of P beats every Fromsoft...actually probably most Souls like. Ds3 and Bloodborne have a few tracks than stand out on top and just grab me every time, but when combined with their other tracks and compared to Lies of P, LoP just comes out on top. Also, the fact the game added a mechanic that enticed me to just stop and listen to a track with no other distractions...it was the first time that a game mechanic almost made me shed a tear. Beautiful is all I can say about the mechanic and the soundtrack
@@TB-zj1yy I agree with you whole heartedly. I can't wait for their dlc to drop. The creators leaked some images that make me suspect that not only will we have Dorethy from the Wizard of oz but also some of the characters from peter pan.
Brother same! When I finally turned them on I was stunned. It changed the rest of my experience and created beautiful moments. Because I ALWAYS turned it on from that point, it would be playing on the background during emotional moments/dialogues. Such as the King Of Riddle quest end dialogues. THEY HIT 10x HARDER. And the deaths... Or going back to the hotel and out on the corresponding record... It was so emotional and beautiful AND it is also a mechanic as it adds to our 'humanity meter' AND on newgame+ you get golden records which usually are alternative versions. The records EASILY became one of my many favourite things
I mentioned that in my video talking about the demo but I didn't leave it in this one because I felt that I had already said enough that needed saying. But maybe I should have at least mentioned it here too
Quick correction there is NO stat requirements for ANY weapon. But they do SCALE with different attributes. You can equip any weapon at any level without penalty
Ah, but you see? The From games are intentionally giving you mostly useless gear for your build to increase the thrill of finding an unupgraded weapon you’ll never use
Honestly one of my favorite features about this game. I really don’t like how Elden ring kinda forces you into one or two weapons without drastically changing your character.
I almost never replay games, once I'm done I typically move on to the next one. After I finished Lies of P I immediately started playing NG+ to refight the bosses and unlock the alternative endings this game is an absolute gem.
@@ricxwav6061 New Game plus, after you finish the game you start the game over again but you retain your character level, weapons, and items when you beat the game. Also in Lies of P bosses have more health and do more damage on a New Game Plus playthrough so it isn't too easy, it is a souls-like after all.
20:08 so this is basically the Monster Hunter sharpness mechanic, which is the only durability mechanic that makes sense. It adds another layer of rhythm by getting the player to think about when they can withdraw and sharpen safely. Put another way: if strikes and dodges are the quarter and eighth notes of this rhythm game, sharpening is the rest note you have to work into the beat.
I actually didn't bother with sharpening that much since I went for the bonesaw/wrench+baton build, charge attacks + puppet string. I realized the game was too easy with those weapons so on the new game+ i went for a more vanilla build and it was definitely more fun and hard.
Except even monster hunter's revolves around not losing sharpness. 80% of the sharpness-related skills (in MHR&W) are made for you to sharpen less, and with the recent changes they made to Wilds, it looks like they're becoming aware that their outdated design philosophy and decided to rework the sharpness gain. Lies of P is quick, and lets you choose how much you want to sharpen. Doesn't take away agency from the player and hardly ever feels like a burden.
As I've gotten older and have less time to play games, I really hate games that have a lot of backtracking and having to remember to go back for items ,quests ,chests and doors that you couldn't unlock before. So I really loved that feature where it reminds you of who to speak to or which quest can be completed. Made the game so much more enjoyable and less overwhelming for me.
Yeah. In souls games, I usually just play blindly at first and then on NG+ I will try to do all the quest and that means holding my phone and searching every guide on the internet. It's not fun at all. Just doing it for the trophies. But I have no complains because it's almost tradition at this point 😂
@@Digger-Nick have you play any fromsoft game or are u just hating cause u can never "git gud" lol. The thing here is you don't really need to do any of the quest to finish the game. The quest are mostly for trophies and some unique items. They're optional. You can completely play the game without worrying about any of the quest.
@@felipecorpuz2476while I’m relatively newer to the souls genre, Lies of P may be my favorite, got about 80hrs and almost done with my second playthrough. Gotta finish my second playthrough for Sekiro, Third for Elden Ring, and First for DS3, I so wish I played souls games earlier but better late than never
Forget everything else. The MUSIC IN THIS GAME OML! It is so beyond good and packed full of emotions that work perfectly with the world it's set in. 9/10 game.
Pretty much all of the sound tracks from the game is by Studio LAY-BACK which is a music studio under Neowiz. Neowiz is also known for rhythm game DJMAX series.
@@Darkraven867I absolutely fell in love with that song! I ended up finding it on RUclips Music and saving it to my playlist so I can listen to it in my car!
Bonfires being next to bosses is BY FAR the biggest upgrade Lies of P and Elden Ring made. I can't go back to any Souls game where I have to run through a goddamn obstacle course to get to a boss.
@@capolean2902I think you're talking about Abyss Watchers and yes, it's pretty annoying A few days ago I felt like trying to play ds3 again after beating LoP, and a single runback to Wordt made me feel like I don't want to play the souls trilogy anymore lol
Im hoping its going to be red riding hood if the end cutscene is to be believed, they say dorothy so its more likely that its the wizard of oz but im really hoping its a bait and switch and we get bloodborne 2 as little red riding hood. The dark souls fanbase is foaming at the mouth for another beast based horror souls take.
On my second play through now. In my experience, what works for LOP is the fact that, you are actually encouraged to use all your defensive options. As in, the game implies to you that parrying is important, but actually, the game is so much easier if you use all 4 defensive options. Those being “Parrying”, “Dodging”, “Blocking”, and “Run the fuck away”. Blocking looks weak at first, but the more you play, the more you will realize “wait I don’t have to parry the whole combo, I can just block it and rally back my health”. And for fury attacks, you don’t have to learn how to parry all of them, some are just much easier to dodge outside the hitbox instead. As a result, “optimal play” for different player and playstyles can vary a lot, and it doesn’t feel like there is a single “correct” playstyle like Sekiro.
Different builds also encourages different defensive strategies. For example, the Two Dragon Blade costs a lot of stamina to R1, which means you don’t have much stamina to dodge with s. However, your R1 repositions you, so “position yourself to not get hit” often becomes the optimal defense option.
@@akirachisaka9997twin dragon swords have to be the most depth adding weapon I have ever seen in these games. Attacks that have built in dodges, slight ranged abilities with its fable art, a built in parry completely unique and different to all other parties in the entire game that has its own timing and is built into the weapon as opposed to being a FP ability and the dog on its other fable attack. That weapon has more depth to it than all 400+ weapons in Elden Ring or any in dark souls period. It's why when I got it I just couldn't go back to anything else again.
Just got done fighting the victor dude whatever his name is big guy, that's when I learned the importance of staying the fuck away from attacks as much as possible and swoop in for quick hits only to run away again lmao
@@thedoomslayer5863Agreed, although I can and will go back to souls games. After beating LoP 3 times, I loaded DS3, and honestly it just felt so soulless and empty. It really drives home the point that Dark Souls games have no emotion or feelings.
@@AlyxTheProtogenI suggest trying with a slow weapon build, too. The hitboxes are so perfect that using the slowest attacks is still possible against the fastest bosses with proper positioning. Land mines are a benefit of that build, too. 😈
I finished the game last night and god damn it was a FANTASTIC game. I got so invested in the story, parrying has never felt so satisfying, combining weapons is such a great feature and the fact that you can change the scaling with the cranks is HUGE! It gives you an incentive to use whatever blade you want. The boss fights were awesome (except *cough*Simon*cough*), the Brotherhood fight was finally a gank fight DONE RIGHT. This is definitely my favourite game this year.
It is truly a fantastic souls like. It also has the best story of any souls like. and the combat is phenomenal... it is up there with my all time favorites and a game i will always end up coming back to in the years to come!
@@KingBranDaBroken man after fighting laxsia and magnus one after another the 2nd phase of nameless has worn me out after 10 tries ,, gotta take a break
I had some expectations for Lies of P to be a good game, you know, hoping for a decent Souls-like experience I could enjoy. It turned out to be an absolutely incredible and fantastic journey. I can't wait to see what the developers come up with next.
I tried the demo when it came out and didn't liked it at all , it felt weird Lotf came out and i HATED that game and bought lies of P because i needed to play a souls but i've done the game too much , i'm actually at the IX "maps" and god this game is crazy , my first impression was bad and now i'm falling in love with it
@@Elyakelit’s my second souls after Elden ring. And I got stomped by the first miniboss - the baton guy. Took me almost 15 tries but I beat him. Then near the endgame I beat Laxasia in my second attempt. God this game genuinely made me git gud
@@Lilmikey-dh8cd What game? Lotf? If you talk about lotf there is a lot of thing who doesn't work you go too far when you attack there is too much monster everywhere it feels like DS2 with the gank squad everywhere, but it's even worse The bosses are boring as fuck, none of them are challenging at all The bosses looked terrible visually compare to the world The animations are kinda bad honestly But in all these shit you can find some good thing too The magic/projectile system is wonderful the armor looks really sick, probably even better than the armor FS made But i don't know, I found the game really boring, it's probably my biggest disappointment this year, i don't understand how people can like this game and compare it to DS1/3/ER/LoP, they're years apart from Lotf in almost every way
@@ElyakelLotf is definitely inferior, but I found i could appreciate it when I understood it more. The attacks moving you forward so much actually helps you a ton when fighting crowds, you can maneuver and even dodge just by attacking, which is cool and fixes the gank issues. However, about half the levels and half the bosses are atrocious, with the other half being good, so it just ends up being mid with some high points
one thing i noticed when i started lies of p and the parrying system, was how the attack patterns for most if not all of the bosses is that their attack patterns are so fast that it once again it forces the aggressive gameplay that the devs want
Afm Lies of P is the first soulslike that reached an actual level of the originals. For me it's even better than some of the From software projects. I hope games like Lies of P will make From Software themselves to become better.
It feels so bad that such a great game wasnt even nominated for game of the year. I know that doesnt make a difference but I wanted more people to know about this game
@@johndodo2062exactly. No where near political enough. Spiderman was riddled with it. Lies of P is my game of the year besides hogwarts. Only because ive wanted a Harry Potter game forever and they pretty much nailed it
I swear there’s a secret game analysis video essay college out there cause these insightful talented entertaining channels just keep popping up out of nowhere
IGN turning from the powerhouse that was widely respected and hiring reviewers that were actually passionate about gaming to.... whatever it is now left a huge opening for independent game reviewers. Plus the Internet and RUclips giving so many an opportunity without the big studio and $$ is great. I love finding channels like this guy so many great creators out there
it makes sense that DS3 is at 7 for him since DS3 is all about the boss fights, but having ER at nr 6 shows me that he doesnt really understand the mechanics that ER introduced which perfected the dark souls combat system/world building/level design
@@jakehurley1242 yeeah to say "perfected" is a bit much. Clearly the dev's first try combing open world gameplay with dark souls, and it shows. Even Miyazaki was recently quoted as basically saying "It's good, but not perfect yet." Which is fuckin' based whether you like the game or not (I do.) That list is kind of hard to look at though lmao.
Elden Ring perfected level design? Really? I'm so afraid we are gonna get trash from the guys at Fromsoft now because of fans like you. ER is inferior to basically every other game they've made. Just a 100 mile wide 1 inch deep puddle. Copy pasted enemies, caves, catacombs, bosses ... It's just not good. Too many steps backward, and the moments where you get legacy dungeons are separated by miles of trash mob nonsense. And dragons. Copy paste dragons. Demons souls and dark souls are still peak, along with Bloodborne.
Lies of P is one of the most fantastic games I’ve ever played. It’s been years since I’ve actually looked forward to sitting down and playing a game like I did with Lies of P
@@erwingoldenballs7382elden ring is just too big and I don’t really like open worlds. I like how they can focus on a smaller game and really polish the maps and the combat.
Just finished my ng+ run of lies of p It is now in my top 3 favorite souls games of all time And honestly i would rank it next sekiro and ds3 in the highest tier of souls games Lies of p is the first souls game that got me invested 100% into the story which was just amazing, the bosses (although for me personally not as good as ds3 and sekiro bosses) are absolutely amazing but may suffer from some minor design flaws The soundtrack is masterful and the environement is just on a whole other level and the combat/weapon system are the best ones we've seen yet in a souls, Even with the minor flaws this game has i would easily give it a 10 This game hasnt ruined souls for me because i still think ds3 has the best bosses and ost and sekiro has the best combat system in any game period But lies of p easily ranks next to these two to games This video is amazing btw im subbing
Alright so I recently have started playing Lies of P I’m no veteran souls like player as I have only beaten bloodborne and elden ring sure i have played ds 3 and sekiro but I didn’t beat them specially sekiro as I suck truly suck at parrying most of the time so I dropped sekiro But this game was different. It was the first time I really wanted to try it out solely because it was Pinnoccio I was playing as and the gothic atmosphere which reminded me of bloodborne this game basically is the perfected version of sekiro and bloodborne combined. What this game has is the fact that you ate versatile enough to deal with enemies the way you see fit. For me? I want to parry as it feels nice to stagger enemies and knowing the fact that they are just as vulnerable as I am and knowing that they might lose their own weapons with just me parrying them and also what you didn’t point out was that Human bosses have different builds just like us. Fir example Lady in white felt much easier for me to handle since I had the same build and same weapon type and move sets (was using etiquette) and it just felt exciting to know that she could parry me just like how I could parry her. i really found Romeo the hardest boss for me (I have not yet finished the game but he just felt extremely scary to beat) what romeo had was Technique build with advance but he felt like he had just a little bit of everything in him and honestly he was too fast for me to parry so i dodged and dodged and parried like 2 times but to me, every boss improved my parrying skill a bit. specially romeo and mad donkey. I just think that this game really deserves all the praise it gets and I hope to see a dlc for it probably soon.
Me too. Not sure if it's because I could never get into souls games before this. It's probably in my top 5 games of all time at this point. I think with other souls titles they're so cryptic with the story and the fact his has a heart felt one built in grabbed me. What it has done is make me want to try more. Well done that team for an absolute banger of a game. The production levels in this game are absolutely incredible. Now you will find me in the Lands Between! I'm telling you now if it was a FS game people would have taken more notice.
I re-beat dark souls 3 and lies of p in close proximity to each other and while i wouldnt say lies of p has exceeded from soft, i think it absolutely deserves to sit next to from's games as the top of the genre. Immaculately made and so beautifully well thought out. Absolutely nail3d whatbit set out to do and is very consistent throughout. I do think the last 2 bosses were a little too easy though
@keytwitchyPhD that's tough because Elden Ring and Lies of P are structurally veryy different. It really would come down to preference. If you preferred ds3 you'd probably like lies more than ER
@@CurtTheHero yeah i mean his first phase is nothing to stress about but i struggled on his second for a good part of an hour. i ended up besting him with the holy sword of the ark after trying to use that one poison dagger that carried me through a good chunk of the game
There is something that every single developer overlooks while designing... The weight of the characters and the rythm used in walking animation, that can convey the power of the build but it always lacks
Seriously! I’ve felt this way forever. I am immediately drawn to or critical of a game based on the core animations...especially walking/running since that’s usually the primary means of travel. They don’t have to be hyper realistic but they need to make sense for the character and look fluid. Something about a wonky walk/run just rubs me the wrong way.
The interchangeable handles/blades really got me interested. Thanks for a thorough review! I have fallen in love with Souls like games recently and I am adding this to my list of games to play.
This is my first experience in souls like games and i can honestly say this is one of the best games i have ever played. Story is good, combat feels fluid, graphics are amazing, athmosphere is great, well optimized. If you have a pc definetly buy gamepass just for this game! I just started my 2nd playthrough and Been loving it. Note the game gets a lot harder on 2nd playthrough
One of the things that Lies of P does so well is original music. This is so evident in the records you can collect. You don't have to listen to them but if you do you are not only rewarded with character progression but the music itself is so damn good that even those moments feel just as satisfying as the combat. In fact I love that you have to go back to the Hotel to play them. In those moments I find myself reflecting on my progress thus far and begin to get excited for as to what comes next.
These are actually reworked songs that neowiz has been involved with before in a game called DJMax (I believe). Most, if not all, the songs were originally created years prior. However, I feel like the reworks are masterful in adding depth to LoP
One thing I never hear anyone talk about when they mention the guard recovery system, is it doesn’t just rally if you hit the enemy but you also rally when perfect guarding, turning a defensive mechanic into an offensive mechanic on top of causing the enemy to be groggy or break their weapon makes your options to rally more engaging in how you wanna regain health. And how you wanna be aggressive, be it damage or poise/weapon health
I was going to comment about my experience with Lies of P (of which was good), but I think the more important thing to comment is just how happy it makes me to hear you just gush and genuinely loving a game so much. Just an such enjoyable video.
You, sir, have made me want to replay this game from the start and try a new build- after I’ve already platinumed this game, beat NG+++ and put over 115 hours into the game.
I haven’t had such a visceral, in-love reaction to a game since my first playthrough of ER. I freaking LOVE this game and can’t wait to see what else this studio has in store for us
I had the exact same reaction to this game! It blew me away! Easily my GOTY! The last game that I loved instantly and hooked me completely was Returnal! Can't wait for the dlc and sequel! It is astonishing what Round 8 was able to achieve here!
Another reason why I personally prefer the parry (in sekiro, havent played lies of p yet) over the mandatory dodge roll, is because Ive always felt like dodgerolling in souls games, while necessary to survive, doesnt look like it should realistically prevent the damage it prevents. For some fights and enemies it makes perfect sense, but in other cases something bigger than the screen chomps down onto you and everything around you in a 5 mile radius and you simply seem to turn into a ghost for the duration of your i-frames. It doesnt look like you dodge, it just looks like the attacks phase through your body without damaging you, which is something you obviously get used to and learn to ignore when you play from soft games, but at the same time it feels a lot less satisfying than landing a chain of parries in sekiro. My brain has a way easier time believing that I somehow parried that huge attack with my own weapon than that I would simply roll through it without being hurt. On top of that there are of course attacks that you cannot parry and then have to jump over or roll away from, but in souls games the dodgeroll quickly turned into a universal solution for everything, no matter if it made sense or not, and that just doesnt feel as satisfying to me.
It's more satisfying because it's quicker, lets you control your position (you remain where u were), is more responsive, looks way cooler than rolling in dirt like a pig, and due to being quicker u can have bosses do a giant flurry of near instant swings and have it be perfect for a rapid parry session whereas with a roll those quick follow ups would "roll catch" you and it would feel unfair.
I really love this game. I played through it 3 times to get the 100% on steam. It is great to see that some competion emerges in this monopolized by Fromsoftware sub genre.(Dont take it wrong I am in awe of their games everytime I play them) I hope that more studios will emerge with more brave ideas that will push the genre into an even brighter future.
@@Stefan-gz6jm Yes they did. Monopolised is not a good word for that I am aware of this but I couldnt find any better that would convey what I think about the current state of Souls genre so I rolled with this one
Im on my first play through, and i noticed that the puppet bosses talk. Then i noticed what they say (im working on beating the kings flame fueco) and im already like... oof theres layers here
I love how it shows what they say on the second playthrough. Also as you lie more and become more human (literally) you can hear P change from just mechanical sounds to grunts and breathing and sounds of pain. As well as the death animation can change from regular puppet deactivating to more lifelike death. It’s neat attention to detail and makes the choices actually worthwhile
I stumbled across this video on complete chance and it’s beautiful to see someone who shares the same love for this game. I never played any souls game besides Elden ring and started sekiro and because of this parry system it has pushed me to excel at sekiro. Also, the ending had the best heart warming moment with the Facination (Golden). Best song on the OST
I think you're mistaking something about Dark Souls' combat: it's _supposed_ to be focused on the enemies over the player. It's a game where you have to always be on the look out for opportunities to attack bosses and attack them then rather than on your own terms (unless your build facilitates that). Dark Souls is a game where bosses tell the player, "Die", as they bounce around the battlefield and hit you with everything they have, and the player's response is, "No, I don't think I will". You don't beat bosses, they try to beat you and, after taking the beating, you say, "Is that all you've got?", before walloping them. If you like Lies of P's combat over Dark Souls', that's okay, but what the two games' combat try to achieve are entirely different. They're different in the same way that Dark Souls and Bloodborne combat is different: one is slow and methodical, where you have to balance defense and offence, while the other is aggressive, where your offence is also your defense.
Lies of P is wasy easier too. And from what I can tell there are no early on traps like in Dark souls. Lies of P is inspired by souls but for sure its own methodical action style.
@@steve87jI sharply disagree, I find Lies of P much harder than say DS and Elden Ring, a bit harder than Sekiro too (besides the first playthrough of Sekiro) why do you think it’s easy? Or what’s easy about it for you?
@@volktol4432 idk I just didn't die as often as in souls. I died all the time in sekiro. I think elden ring has huge dependency on your build. Same for all souls games. Sekiro is universally hard. And lies of p is more basic. I started with og demon souls which is way harder than lies of p
@@volktol4432timings are definitely easier this isnt an arguement i thought? aswell as the streamlined story its a much softer experience as it has a different story focus i thought?
@@Bryan-hl5si I’m not arguing, I was just asking and making discussion, so don’t worry about that. And me disagreeing isn’t me hating on your opinion. And I agree the straight story is easier but that’s also how Sekiro and dark souls are. They have side paths but there’s only one maybe two ways for your main path
Started playing soulslikes in my 40s, so i think that helps me be more open to new games. I cut my teeth on elden ring, bloodborne and sekiro. I played them at about the same time. Beating sekiro felt amazing, learning to play the game as intended and actually doing it felt amazing.
You touched on 2 things that ive some of the biggest gripes ive had with as im going through my very first FS/Elden Ring playthrough: 1. The obscurity of quests and following them. NPCs describe them in ways that are incoherent if you were were not born in the 15th century and there is no way to track them or see how much you have progressed. this ties into another issue i have which is the item descriptions having no specific number details. If its FS attempting to stop players from min-maxing builds they have failed because there wouldnt be as many guides/calculators/YT videos dedicated for them. 2. You are not incentivized to fight ER bosses aggressively because of their combo chains. say a moveset has 3-5 combos. doing 2 movesets back to back is completely fine. however the issue becomes more and more annoying when the bosses can do 3 or more movesets straight without any real stamina cost on their part. on top of that they can jump out of the punish window by the second hit and immediately follow it up with attacks that will 1-2 shot your healthbar, while you are stuck in animation. IMO it quickly turns the experience of beating bosses from a sense of accomplishment to now a sense of relief because of the game artificially punishes you with what feels like gimmicks.
I disagree that you need to learn to parry to beat Lies of P. I beat the game and every boss in the game without ever learning to parry. I relied almost entirely on dodging and sprinting around to avoid attacks.
I sucked at parrying in this game and still managed to beat it just fine. It definitely took longer than it would have, had I taken the time to really get good at it. I just really had a very hard time getting the timing right, so instead of continuously getting murdered while trying to parry, I realied on dodging and guard regain instead. There are many different ways to beat this game. Honestly you could just spam throwables at pretty much every single boss and breeze through it without ever dying. So, learning how to parry definitely isn't necessary.
@@rhyswhittington8759 I was very good at parrying in Sekiro. I breezed through it 4 times in a row to get every ending, and every trophy. By the third game I could get through without ever dying. The parry systems are very different between the two games. Sekiro is just a hair better than LOP. They're both still amazing games, though.
@@DoneWEvry1 agreed. i was not good at parrying and sekiro for me was easily the hardest fromsoft game to this day. my first sekiro playthough almost broke me. that platinum was torture haha. theres something off about the parrying in lies of p though. i think its because you have to commit to it and it you do it early you cant do it again for a second. might also be the lightning fast movements of some enemies with the slow parry that feels off.
the ending song was the cherry on top of this video great video man!! really hope one day im looking at game reviews in the future and stubble across you again
You really don't need to spend time in menus in Nioh, just pick up everything you see and between every few missions just sell it all or convert your stuff into materials. If you do happen to get a rarer piece of armor/weapon then it's worthwhile to check it immediately, but otherwise you can just skip the menu hell entirely, so it's not really that different from dark souls.
You said it right the first time. It's "Souls" not "SoulsBorne ". Lies of P is the best Souls-like so far! Also I appreciate the majula theme. DS2 best Souls game!
Aside from your Dark Souls 3 take (not sure what's going on there), I agree with everything in this video. Your parrying vs dodging explanation is brilliant and really eye opening when you think about what makes a game like this more engaging. Really shows how important and influential the introduction of the mechanics in Sekiro were to the genre. I just got this game a couple days ago, but I'm about 6 hours in and completely hooked. There have always been moments in fromsoftware games where I'll think to myself "I'm not a fan of this boss/area," but so far I haven't had any of those thoughts with this game, but rather every new boss or area I come across I love even more than the last one. This is easily my game of the year, and great effort with the video.
@@icantthinkofanamerightnow7967 Because it has the best bosses in gaming history, and its just the souls formula expanded in great ways, dont know why you don't like it
@@brashminecraft2300 areas in DS3 are much more tunnelly and the need of Making boss harder made the gameplay much more flat since in the end you fighting them all in the same way which makes the game very repetitive on subsequent playthroughs
@@JustAPersonalUseBarb answer my points instead of saying”nuh uh”without refuting anything I played a lot of DS3 and something never felt right about it
I don't necessarily agree with you but the way you talk about DS2 makes me realize......this game feels a lot like DS2 in terms of movement. Like DS2+Sekiro combined. Heavy and momentum focused but with them parries and a less than ideal dodge button. I can totally see a DS2 fan liking this game over Fromsoft's recent games. I say this with no shade, I much prefer Elden's "snappier" style, but we all like different things
You definitely haven't understood the system Nioh has in place properly and this is the issue i see most fromsoft players have with the game. You don't need to sit in the menu and meticulously go through each gear piece as you are progressing. There are levels and rarities and simple damage numbers which exist in every game of this type, while also having 2 main stats to look into being weight and toughness stuff that exists in all of these types of games. Additional effects are simply that additional effects you can search and look at what they are but while u progress through the game you do not need that. These buffs give you some of the most extensive build variety of any action combat game out there in the end game. You get your loot and build whatever you want, that's the endgame of nioh. What Dark souls games force you into for the most part is sticking with 1 weapon due to the lack of upgrade material, this is incredibly limiting in terms of build and doesn't allow experimentation on the part of the player and is there to create a fake sense of replay value in these games, meanwhile in nioh you can pick up whatever gear piece, build and weapon you want you can experiment so incredibly much with it that it's simply incredible. Nioh has a bunch of other flaws, i.e the enemy balancing and some level design elements. Nioh 2 fixes every issue and improves the game 1000 fold and is the ultimate game of this genre and has yet to be dethroned. Highly recommend it to everyone who hasn't tried it
There are other problems in nioh - the combat system is just fine, but - you have few opponents and their variety to use them The problem of the design of locations and opponents While playing 1 nioh, I found myself thinking that I was playing the alpha version of a promising project with a combat system rather than a full-fledged game The gear system frustrated me and knocked me out of the dive with its numbers - I hate such lazy progression systems and it would be better if they didn't exist The god of war has the same problem with equipment
@@Levin_sun If we are strictly talking nioh 1 then yeah the lack of enemy variety is a real thing which was remedied in nioh 2, however they compensate the lack of enemy variety by adding the quality to these encounters, each monster is unique in how you approach and fight them, with varied movesets especially in nioh 2, some nioh 2 regular enemies have more moves than bosses in the souls series, i'd fight 10 more Fuki or Suiki before half the boss roster in the first 3 souls games. The visual design of all of the yokai enemies is also great and fits the lore they ascribe to, both with the moves and looks. Now as for the locations all of the main story locations for both Nioh 1 and Nioh 2 are unique and some are absolutely amazing like the Mausoleum of Evil is just incredible, not to mention the DLC areas. and while sure the levels don't have those shortcuts or whatnot from the original souls game, they are indeed more linear with more planned out encounters that's a preference thing and not a real indictment on the game itself. The Equipment thing is again your own personal preference. In Dark Souls the way you get better equipment is by choosing a weapon and being forced to choose precisely not knowing what you might eventually get and focus on that weapon due ot the scarcity of materials and then only in NG+ can you begin experimenting properly without fully hampering your damage. Nioh games use a calassic ARPG style where weapons are tied to specific stats and bonuses, mind you you can ignroe these unless you are going for a full endgame build which is the same way it works in any classic ARPG which is what nioh's system is. You can just go and grab the bigger and better weapon and keep on trucking or you can just use your first katana and beat the game just fine, you aren't limited in what you can or cannot use you aren't forced to choose a specific weapon and stick to it you are encouraged to diversify and use whatever you like and build whatever diverse build you like, while being able to respec whenever you so please. It's just a completely different system that you didn't engage with properly because you either aren't a fan of such a system or you don't like the system to begin with, either way that is not a flaw with the game inherently, it's a preference thing. I like way more being able to use any weapon i want swapping based off the boosts that i like and just changing up weapons on the go, whereas in dark souls i grab the strongest bonking stick level it up and never change because of the scarcity of materials, it's just a different system.
@@neyouno Complete and utter bulld. That was maybe true for a few FS titles, like Bloodborne and Demon's Souls, but from DS3 onwards you can pretty much upgrade a lot of weapons to the max without having to go to NG+.
@shiroamakusa8075 Dark Souls 3 has close to 200 weapons but has 15 titan slabs which are needed to max out a weapon which means 15/200 weapons aka 7.5% Elden ring has 308 weapons in the base game and 107 in the dlc totalling around 415 weapons In the base game of elden ring there are 13 ancient dragon smithing stones and 8 anicent somber stones. The dlc adds 8 ancient smithing stones and 6 ancient sober stones Meaning you can max out 35/415 weapons aka 8% Ds2 lets you infinitely farm slabs So tell me please how i am bullshitting here??
@@neyouno What a dishonest reply. How many weapons will you be using per playthrough? Certainly not all 100+ of them. You are not going to change weapons every hour now, are you? For any normal playthrough there are enough materials to max out whatever weapon strikes your fancy even if you don't go into a playthrough with a planned build in mind. Also, in case you don't know, but you don't need to actually max every weapon, especially not the +25 normal ones in ER. So your little calculation is completely irrelevant.
I finished Lies of P and it was hard but I loved it. Then I went to Lords of the fallen. And that made me realize how much of a quality game that P was. Neowiz pulled off something that can actually compete and I hope they expand on it with that Wizard of Oz ending. Maybe give us some good DLC's. Then another release with feedback from fans. I have high hope for this company.
@@synnical77 I like them both, I just think the teams had different niches they were trying to build out. LotF built exploration and interconnectedness so so so much more and the whole world is seamless. If you don’t have performance issues, it’s a really great game. Lies of P in contrast is mostly hallway type levels and it isn’t bad but it’s not nearly as intricate or impressive to explore. The combat, however, is tighter in many ways to its credit. The only feature it really feels off to not have is the weapon switching from LotF. Overall they’re both great. I just prefer the block/parry/dodge split in Lies of P, and the story it’s telling.
The reason for me that lies of P is so good is that it takes the good from soulslike games and then adds its own elements and mechanics to improve upon it. The appeal of these games is the difficult enemies, realistic combat e.g. parry, side step, roll, block etc. and customisation of combat through weapons and abilities. A lot of studios get inconvenience/annoying/tedious mixed up with difficulty and thats what ruins some titles e.g. lords of the fallen. A game thats not a soulslike but takes these elements really well is god of war, some bosses in this game are close to the difficulty of the hardest souls bosses e.g. sigrun, god king etc
The comments say a lot about this game, it was made to be bought by all of the people who whinged about ganks, runbacks, and how unfair dark souls games are. Lies of P is just Dark Souls: Barbie holds your hand edition.
Tbh with you, I love this game so much. The aesthetic, the mechanics, the environmental storytelling, I loved how sad yet amazing this game feels. This game became my second favourite soul game ever right beside Sekiro. The only complaint I would say it has for me is the perfect parry window frame. But that may be just me still learning or being bad with my timing
The parry time window is fine honestly, it’s pretty easy to get the hang of , especially if you are use to playing games that require good hand-to-eye coordination.
@@Alcappuci don’t get me wrong though, there are literal gods out there at this game that barely miss parries lol I don’t know how they do it but it is satisfying once you get somewhat of a grip on it
I have beaten LoP, and i actually agree with pretty much everything this guys just said in the review. But like you, I have only 1 very small "complaint", and that too is the parry window. I would really have liked a parry window that was just a TINY bit easier to hit, and then i think all bosses and enemies should get more HP to balance it, and perhaps a little less guard regain. Besides that I have no complaints! Now I will get my redemption and beat Sekiro! The only game from FS i haven't beaten!
You put everything I feel about this game into words, thank you. I'm glad it's not just me that felt this way about Lies of P. My expectations for any future souls like game have shifted because of this game. I don't think anything will come close to how good this was for a long time. Looking forward to see what you think of the future lies of P DLC coming out in the future.
@@Elieli09 considering Elden ring is there pinnacle. That's a pretty stupid comment to make. It's a masterpiece of a game. Ignore what From soft have made.
@@ashleygray1632 I wouldn't say Elden Ring was their pinnacle, it's not even their best to date. The size of it, and the open world crippled the formula somewhat imo.
Lies of P is great, but it lacks the design that dark souls has. The areas and enemies are not difficult. Just some bosses and some elites are comparable but barely. And I don't even parry that good but you have so many mechanics that make it easy imo. Most enemies you can just strafe and avoid most attacks and you are good. Love the game and aesthetics and music but it still needs more to be considered great.
I'm ecstatic to see you finally blow up with this vid! Hugely well-deserved and you should be immensely proud! (Also, you convinced me to play Lies of P, haha.)
My favorite part about lies of p is the fact it always lets you stay in the fight when you're low on heals or have none. In other souls games there's been so many times where Im just like "welp I've lost now" and that's pretty much gone now. It allows us to be decently aggressive instead of running away doing one hit when we're low on everything.
@@gigapac Usually when that happens you already are close the end of the fight already. If it's early and you lost all your heals its basically over most of the time. I beat some bosses low hp anyways, but the regen just keeps runs alive and learn their moves easier. If I could fight a LONG fight like midir with heal regens I'd probably like the fight more.
@@galaxyvulture6649 ohhhh yeah I understand that's totally fair that's a super frustrating feeling when you get caught in a combo like 3 times in a row early because of one mistake and lose all your estus
Yeah it's like sekiro, since you have good defense mecanics, you can still play even low on health, the other souls game where you only have your roll and you know there are some bosses attacks that are near impossible to dodge so being low early on the fight means you'll lose.
yea felt like an amalgamation of the genre, trully inspired by the previous. put some notes and went to the drawing board polishing out the rough edges.
before i started playing “souls-like” games, Lies of P just looked super generic & like some of the reviews said, just a bad rip off of dark souls. After playing it, i realize that most of the bad reviews on this game are probably from people who are bad at the game, or people who never want to see when a “copy” is as good as the original . Lies of P definitely isnt for everyone, but it sure is a great game & as good, if not better, than what it takes influence from.
Lie of p look pretty good, I'll try it when it goes on sale. I'm more of a nioh 2 stan. The combat in that game makes me say, "Oh good heavens, im about to splurge." The crack addled switchglave bayblade combat is beautiful.
Liking DS2 and disliking i-frames is based, but I do disagree with your opinion on Nioh. Nioh doesn’t just have an interesting combat system, it’s a great combat system. It’s so much more than just the stances. It’s honestly my equivalent of how you see LoP, and I haven’t even played Nioh 2 yet. I don’t personally care that much about the loot system but you can easily just look at the loot after you’ve cleared the mission instead of during it. And chances are that 90% is going to be sold, offered to gain amrita, and disassembled anyway. And then another 9% will be used for things like Soul Matching, and the remaining 1% is what you’re actually going to be using.
Yo idk who tf you are but you absolutely killed this video. Incredible editing, great enthusiasm, and a wonderful in depth analysis of the game while still giving some QUITE cheeky opinions as well! 😂
I think the key aspect a lot of 'souls-likes' miss, along with Lies of P, is the ability to get lost and veer off path. Dark Souls, Bloodbourne, Sekiro have a level of mystery with them that has not been replicated in the same mysterious way. The ability to veer off of path, or go somewhere completely different and realise there is an obstuction/path that cannot be accessed until you reach a certain level of progression in another area is invaluable. An example in DS1 - You have 7 locations from the get go that are all woven together. For example you CAN go into the catacombs right at the start, however you will reach the yellow blocked door that you cannot access until later. This feeling of 'oh wow ive discovered this, but i need something to get past it', is CRUCIAL to the feeling of awe and mystery that Souls games posess. Even bloodbourne which is more linear. After Cathedral ward you can choose different paths to venture down that converge or serve purpose to another location that you have to find.
yep this is my problem with lies of p i think, and why i just dont enjoy it as much as everyone else or nearly as much as the fromsoft titles, you can get lost inside of a level in lies of p, but you cant get lost inside the world
Another method of avoiding enemy attacks that gives even MORE options to the player is that most enemies in Lies of P have a pretty short reach, and therefore, simply running away or dancing around them is often pretty effective - even against most fury attacks! I definitely relied on that fact before I knew the attack timings. Elden Ring is equally dear to my heart, but it was kind of refreshing when Lies of P tended to pit me against bosses smaller than buildings, whose attacks didn't sweep the entire arena.
Did you even play Lies of P for more than 20 minutes? The first boss is large and has aoe attacks. I will freely admit the bosses and enemies are not overdone in size like Elden Ring, but there are plenty of large mobs in that game, including bosses. Some enemies may have short reach, but there are also plenty that have long reach. The clown that throws out his fists? Laxasia and the spear that is 50 feet long all of a sudden? Laxasia when she does her upward swipe attack combo can also skate forward and track you. The game is good but I'm tired of people ignoring things like this to make a point that doesn't exist.
@@georgen5882did you? The green monster has that reaching slam fury that if you run under his legs he completely whiffs it. And this puts you right behind him to punish. Alot of fury attacks can be avoided by backing off or being smart with movement if you can't perfect block them consistently. Scrapped was easy enough to learn the timing of so I just perfect blocked everything and strafed left before hitting.
@@CursedOniGaming I played it too along with the other souls series, but kinda liked this game better. I was hesitant to play this game at first (I was expecting its another souls rip-off), but I really loved the game and its mechanics.
@@jedagoncilloallot of people, prominent people in the souls area, are saying the same. This game is just better and the from stans, of which I was one, need to grow up. Every king falls. Elden was overrated to begin with. Check the user scores. Elden sits at a 7
@@johndodo2062I kinda think so too. I enjoyed playing Elden Ring, but I liked this game better. It took some elements from other souls games but man, did not expect that this game did it better. Even my kids love it. haha
24:45 I was really confused at first when I went through the final door and didn't find a boss, then it hit me. Lorenzini Arcade IS the boss. They made a whole area that FEELS like a boss, without a boss. Every time you unlock one of the 3 doors, it's like a phase of a boss. You're given new enemies and challenges behind each door almost like a new 'boss phase'.
I loved your video and subbed!🤩If the studio keeps making souls like based off of fairy tales with dark twists, I'm sold, especially if the story continues with the Wizard of Oz.
I feel the same but for Nioh 2. It's got a great gameplay loop with draining an enemy of stamina allowing you to go ham at them And the quality of life changes makes it feel so much better than the original fromsoft games
This game is a master piece didn't got hooked by a game since Elden Ring but Lies of P did better it actually maked me cried with the insanes boss fights where you learn with each defeat, or the atmoshere of the game and the ost. My heart never beat so hard and my eyes never cried so much before this game.
In my opioniong thos game is way better than bloodborne beat bloodborne 3 tims and im half way through lies of p and its significantly better just my opinion @silkspectre7979
its actually so nice to see someone have same thoughts as me i personally like sekiro much but all of from software games has been defeated by lies of p by my side nice video btw liked it so much
i feel heard, i legit cannot for the life of me finish ds3, its so unenjoyable, yet ive replayed ds1 many times and have all the achievements and was in the process of doing the same for ds2
As good as Lies of P is, I don't see myself doing more than 5 or 6 playthrus (and I'm already on NG+ of my second character, that finished NG+ alrdy). I have 16 clears on Elden Ring and literally 900 hours invested.
I don't get how people do not get bored of Elden Ring. The first half of the game is literally just sitting on your horse for hours straight to collect materials interrupted by the occasional legacy dungeon.
@@Avdb033 might be because it was my first souls/soulslike, so it was a vastly different gaming experience for me. But I ultimately started theory crafting builds to mim/max for various set ups, amd they all play very differently.
Cannot wait for the DLC, I hope it’s not as linear and same with the sequel. I’d like to see more customization options also, like being able to choose what coat, shirt, and pants you can wear instead of just one big outfit. Maybe dyes also
I have to agree with pretty much everything you said in this video. I was so impressed with how good this game was. I honestly didn't think it was even possible that some devs were able to possibly outdo Dark Souls. Honestly this game might be the one. The way they implemented all the aspects of a Souls game is pretty much improved upon in L.O.P.. One thing for sure,I hope they add more content or straight up make a L.O.P.2. I would gladly help pump up that hype train.
This has been one of the video games where I gave myself the opportunity to get to know this genre and the truth is that I was captured by this game. Its design never pleased me with this genre but now I enjoy it more and it gives me the opportunity to try other games like from software
So whenever I play a game of any genre, the base expectation I have is that I'm going to enjoy it. That's it. I'm going to enjoy the gaming experience of what I paid for. I'm not looking for the best gaming experience of my life or some genre-defining spectacle. Just something I'll enjoy playing for the time I play it. I had the same expectations for Lies of P. When I tell you this game GREATLY exceeded my expectations. The story, level design, weapons, enemies, boss fights, music (OMG the MUSIC!!!!) like man this game is one of the best games I've played this year.
A bit late to the party, but watching the video, it was like someone (for the most part) was reading my own thoughts and impressions of Lies of P back to me. To me, after +100 hours and a few playthroughs, Lies of P has joined hands with other videogame Gods in the pantheon of gaming. Making a decent souls game is deceptively hard. It's like the production of an orchestra. There are many bits and piece to it, but in the end it's the gestalt and the culmination of those pieces that matters. If a single part is below decent, not only is it felt by the audience but it also hurts the overall impression of the product. To everyone's surprise, LoP feels like a game made by veteran Souls developers while delivering the creativity of a fresh mind. Its existence would be utterly unbelievable if it wasn't in front of our eyes already. It gets so many things right that even with its minor flaws it feels morally wrong to give it anything but a 10/10.
"if you are like me and your favourite from games are sekiro, bloodborne and ds2..." This hit the right spot for me. While sekiro and bb dont need any explaination, ds2 is the odd one here. Tho I cant say that its my favourite, i still hold much love for it. I get why people are pushed away from it and consider it the worst but i wish that it could be apprietiated more. Especialy when "hating ds2" is a common knowledge even among ppl who didnt give it a shot.
The thing I love the most about lies of p is creating new weapons and creating a new combat style that way. Imagine an elden ring type game where you can pick an ash of war, a combat art, plus all the normal attacks each weapons have. It makes it a souls game that feel like absolver allowing you to create not just a character but your own weapon and combat style
In my opinion, Lies of P offers levels that are mainly straightforward, less interconnected than DS1 except one area you included that obviously becomes the best area. It offers combat that has less potential dedicated build variety, instead focusing on secondary numbers, and blocking even few essential combat abilities, that exist by default in every similar game, behind a skill tree. In addition, it offered a demo which had less showcase than Nioh's beta demo that featured 4 or 5 levels and bosses instead of 3. Also, the game featured bosses that were less memorable than your least favorite from software game mostly cranking the difficulty by adding random numbers to attack timings while not telegraphing correctly. However, it offered a better durability system that turned it into a management mini game, mix and match mechanic and a rally system that has been implemented in a more superior way in Lords of the Fallen with its Metacritic score of 72. I can't see it ruining Dark Souls for me to be real, guess we are all happy with ourselves! Wish you all the best though, I just stated my personal experience as you did. Cheers🤗
It's all a moot point anyways since without 15 years of Souls we'd never have gotten LoP anyhow. Whether it ruins or not is secondary to the fact that From created a genre, whilst LoP is simply an entry in that genre.
The quest icons in the bonfire menu are EXACTLY what FromSoftware need to implement. They don't spoil anything about the story, and I also don't have to search a wiki for how to progress a quest.
Something I love about Fromsoft, something that's absolutely revolutionary in this era, is that they never once take away your agency. In absolutely none of their games are you forced to walk just so characters can explain the plot to you. This is a key element of what makes their games so replayable, and it's never talked about.
Im so glad I finally tried this genre, I always wrote off sword games and was a typical COD fanboy for years but now I have so many amazing games to experience for the first time
I actually think your ranking of Fromsoft games is quite fair, especially when talking replayability and overall satisfaction. Sekiro and bloodborne are both quite dense… but also very polished and almost never boring (lies of p falls in this category as well). Though I personally would put ds3 higher on the list, it does suffer from a lot of sluggish and un-fun sequences, which almost makes me dread picking it up again- Even more so with elden ring.
Good vid! It’s funny the “improvements” you mentioned such as having a clear story and having quest marks are their downfalls to me when I played it because I prefer vague stories and discovering quests on my own😂
Dark Souls has no fucking story lmao. They write random item descriptions per zone and call it Lore. They even say that they just randomly shoehorn lore into items to make it sound good. It has Lore, not a "Story"
I was so skeptical about Lies of P, their first game? A studio nobody heard of? And even though the same could be said about LoTF, I was baffled about the outcome, I think I got up to Romeo and I was like “this shi is gas.” So I finished it and even though there were bumps the game was the closest experience I’ve had to a fromsoftware title. My opinions flipped about LoP and LoTF and I’m not complaining, it had me on this addiction that only games like sekiro, bb and elden ring could give me. I can say with all honesty LoP is better than ds and ds2. I can’t wait to see what else they have up their sleeve
Technically not their first game unless they just published it, Neow published or made a South Korean mmo style game, which kinda makes it more impressive considering they're doing an entirely different game from what they're experienced with
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"My dislike of Dark Souls 3" And here it is ladies and gentlemen, the reason we don't need to watch the video any further! Thank you all for coming, it was a nice 4 minutes, but now I must leave and block this channel, so that this garbage does not show up in my feed anymore.
Let's fucking GOOOO
Personally I like dark souls 3 the most but I fully understand all the people that don’t like it. Opinions are opinions
This attitude is amazing, and you are a superhero. Keep doing what you do.
@@TheNewSithBlog I'll assume you're talking to me in which case I'll say thanks and that I will
Idk what u expected from a guy that uses block button insted of dodge, he also has elden ring as 6th best souls game, idk what's wrong the ppl like him who say "i love dark souls games" and don't even have ds1/ds2/ds3/elden ring as top 1 game pathetic
One of my favorite things about the game that didn't get mentioned is how defensive parts are separate from the costumes, so you can be as drippy as you want and still have whatever defenses you want for ur build
Agree! I wish other souls games could do this but I imagine it’s difficult to justify it in-universe.
@@Zyckro Bloodborne basically does that right?
@@Zyckroyou dont really need a reason tho just do it lmao. fun gameplay mechanics should take precedent over lore in almost every circumstance. people are gonna remember being able to do something fun, they aren’t gonna give a fuck that you can dress up differently without a lore explanation for why it works
It's a basic feature that should be present in any game of a similar type. FS not adding it to their games is just their usual bullshit like no pause menu or whataver. They like making the game experience a little shitty. Just because.
@@masterofsorrow2699 Your thinking is too shallow. Fromsoft not only does it for in-lore reasons, but because of co-op and invasions. A player should be able to look at another player and instantly tell how much poise they may/may not have, along with their defense. Wouldn't it be really stupid and annoying if you went to go fight a naked player, and they actually had havel's armor on but you just couldn't tell? It's funny you also bring up the no pause menu in the same comment, because it exists for similar reasons.
1# you can't just pause the game because being able to do so would take the stress out of encounters if you were allowed to catch your breath. Fromsoft's worlds are living and breathing, you can only catch breaks at bonfires or safe areas. 2# Fromsoft's games are always online with messages, player phantoms, and invaders. It should go without saying that a multiplayer game cannot have a pause button.
Just because you don't understand something, doesn't mean it doesn't make sense or have reasons. Fromsoft knows what they're doing.
This game is wonderful in every aspect but one thing I don't see many people talking about is the soundtrack. The soundtrack is insane. I remember being so dissapointed when I got a record from completing a quest and then I took it back to the hotel and figured "why not see what this record is like" And then I turned on the collectable masterpiece known as Feel and just sat there for like 10 minutes listening to it on repeat.
same, "feel" is literally a masterpiece and evokes emotion perfect for the game
When comparing the total of works against each other, Lies of P beats every Fromsoft...actually probably most Souls like. Ds3 and Bloodborne have a few tracks than stand out on top and just grab me every time, but when combined with their other tracks and compared to Lies of P, LoP just comes out on top.
Also, the fact the game added a mechanic that enticed me to just stop and listen to a track with no other distractions...it was the first time that a game mechanic almost made me shed a tear. Beautiful is all I can say about the mechanic and the soundtrack
@@TB-zj1yy I agree with you whole heartedly. I can't wait for their dlc to drop. The creators leaked some images that make me suspect that not only will we have Dorethy from the Wizard of oz but also some of the characters from peter pan.
man the records are insanely f****** awesome!
Brother same! When I finally turned them on I was stunned. It changed the rest of my experience and created beautiful moments.
Because I ALWAYS turned it on from that point, it would be playing on the background during emotional moments/dialogues. Such as the King Of Riddle quest end dialogues. THEY HIT 10x HARDER.
And the deaths... Or going back to the hotel and out on the corresponding record... It was so emotional and beautiful
AND it is also a mechanic as it adds to our 'humanity meter'
AND on newgame+ you get golden records which usually are alternative versions.
The records EASILY became one of my many favourite things
no words on the fact that blocks can also break the enemy weapons? This is another thing that add one more level to the fights
I mentioned that in my video talking about the demo but I didn't leave it in this one because I felt that I had already said enough that needed saying. But maybe I should have at least mentioned it here too
Even bosses weapons man. This is incredible
Yup, the Black rabbit fight for example
@@doromizu. fun thing if you break the rabbit's weapon in the first fight the second fight it comes back broken as well
@@doromizu.U can break lex's weapon too
Quick correction there is NO stat requirements for ANY weapon. But they do SCALE with different attributes. You can equip any weapon at any level without penalty
You can also change the scaling of the handles with cranks
Ah, but you see? The From games are intentionally giving you mostly useless gear for your build to increase the thrill of finding an unupgraded weapon you’ll never use
Honestly one of my favorite features about this game. I really don’t like how Elden ring kinda forces you into one or two weapons without drastically changing your character.
Wait r u serious? Y tf does FS not do this?
@@anonisnoone6125because they make games for men. lies of p for little guys or xbox dudes 😭
I almost never replay games, once I'm done I typically move on to the next one. After I finished Lies of P I immediately started playing NG+ to refight the bosses and unlock the alternative endings this game is an absolute gem.
Tell me about it 😂
that NG+ w/ alternative ending that offered gameplay variety needs to be essential. it rewards replayability. Lies of P and AC6 comes in mind
what is ng plus
@@ricxwav6061 New Game plus, after you finish the game you start the game over again but you retain your character level, weapons, and items when you beat the game. Also in Lies of P bosses have more health and do more damage on a New Game Plus playthrough so it isn't too easy, it is a souls-like after all.
i liked that in ng+ you could still upgrading new p organs. but i hated that the game is totally lineal
20:08 so this is basically the Monster Hunter sharpness mechanic, which is the only durability mechanic that makes sense. It adds another layer of rhythm by getting the player to think about when they can withdraw and sharpen safely.
Put another way: if strikes and dodges are the quarter and eighth notes of this rhythm game, sharpening is the rest note you have to work into the beat.
I actually didn't bother with sharpening that much since I went for the bonesaw/wrench+baton build, charge attacks + puppet string. I realized the game was too easy with those weapons so on the new game+ i went for a more vanilla build and it was definitely more fun and hard.
Except even monster hunter's revolves around not losing sharpness. 80% of the sharpness-related skills (in MHR&W) are made for you to sharpen less, and with the recent changes they made to Wilds, it looks like they're becoming aware that their outdated design philosophy and decided to rework the sharpness gain.
Lies of P is quick, and lets you choose how much you want to sharpen. Doesn't take away agency from the player and hardly ever feels like a burden.
As I've gotten older and have less time to play games, I really hate games that have a lot of backtracking and having to remember to go back for items ,quests ,chests and doors that you couldn't unlock before. So I really loved that feature where it reminds you of who to speak to or which quest can be completed. Made the game so much more enjoyable and less overwhelming for me.
Yeah. In souls games, I usually just play blindly at first and then on NG+ I will try to do all the quest and that means holding my phone and searching every guide on the internet. It's not fun at all. Just doing it for the trophies. But I have no complains because it's almost tradition at this point 😂
ÉBasically QoL features that should be in EVERY SINGLE GOD DAMN SOULS GAME.
FromSoft has no good reason not to implement some QoL upgrades...
@@electroelysium2281 Because their fanboys drool over anything they put out no matter what so they don't have to put any effort into their games.
This is a false take though. FromSoft is one of the best studios when it comes to caring and putting efforts in making good games.@@Digger-Nick
@@Digger-Nick have you play any fromsoft game or are u just hating cause u can never "git gud" lol. The thing here is you don't really need to do any of the quest to finish the game. The quest are mostly for trophies and some unique items. They're optional. You can completely play the game without worrying about any of the quest.
I loved the mechanic that when your healing is gone you can fight to always get back to one heal. Saved me many times.
Yeah thats when my adrenaline boosted up
Hands sweaty, eyes locked in, heart beating fast. Man, this game is awesome
@@felipecorpuz2476while I’m relatively newer to the souls genre, Lies of P may be my favorite, got about 80hrs and almost done with my second playthrough. Gotta finish my second playthrough for Sekiro, Third for Elden Ring, and First for DS3, I so wish I played souls games earlier but better late than never
Yes, it is nice because it forces you to fight and not give up.
It's this not just very similar to the bloodbourne mechanic?
Forget everything else. The MUSIC IN THIS GAME OML! It is so beyond good and packed full of emotions that work perfectly with the world it's set in. 9/10 game.
I probably could have gone into detail about the music but I could only say "it adds to the atmosphere and vibe of the game" so many times
The song “feel” lowkey makes me wanna cry sometimes
Pretty much all of the sound tracks from the game is by Studio LAY-BACK which is a music studio under Neowiz.
Neowiz is also known for rhythm game DJMAX series.
nigga be playing videogames for music
@@Darkraven867I absolutely fell in love with that song! I ended up finding it on RUclips Music and saving it to my playlist so I can listen to it in my car!
Bonfires being next to bosses is BY FAR the biggest upgrade Lies of P and Elden Ring made. I can't go back to any Souls game where I have to run through a goddamn obstacle course to get to a boss.
Not having to pull a lever wait for the elevator when you die is peak game design
@@alialkuwari8155 just activate the button that sends elevator to bonfire area
that QoL made it more accessible, just in time as for newer comers/aduience exposed to the genre.
lol i still have flashbacks from that poison forest before fighting those knights or watever those guys are
@@capolean2902I think you're talking about Abyss Watchers and yes, it's pretty annoying
A few days ago I felt like trying to play ds3 again after beating LoP, and a single runback to Wordt made me feel like I don't want to play the souls trilogy anymore lol
Just finished LoP and I cannot stop recommending it to friends of mine. What a great game! Absolutely stoked for whatever this team puts out next.
I NEED that next game RIGHT NOW
Me too! I've recommended it to like 8 friends! GOTY!
Im hoping its going to be red riding hood if the end cutscene is to be believed, they say dorothy so its more likely that its the wizard of oz but im really hoping its a bait and switch and we get bloodborne 2 as little red riding hood. The dark souls fanbase is foaming at the mouth for another beast based horror souls take.
@@SNDN_LN the take on Grimms' fairy yales was such a burst of creativity and imagination.
The writer of P actually wrote on a game coming up that takes place in Italy, cant remember the name but it's a souls like coming this year.
On my second play through now. In my experience, what works for LOP is the fact that, you are actually encouraged to use all your defensive options.
As in, the game implies to you that parrying is important, but actually, the game is so much easier if you use all 4 defensive options. Those being “Parrying”, “Dodging”, “Blocking”, and “Run the fuck away”.
Blocking looks weak at first, but the more you play, the more you will realize “wait I don’t have to parry the whole combo, I can just block it and rally back my health”. And for fury attacks, you don’t have to learn how to parry all of them, some are just much easier to dodge outside the hitbox instead.
As a result, “optimal play” for different player and playstyles can vary a lot, and it doesn’t feel like there is a single “correct” playstyle like Sekiro.
Different builds also encourages different defensive strategies. For example, the Two Dragon Blade costs a lot of stamina to R1, which means you don’t have much stamina to dodge with s. However, your R1 repositions you, so “position yourself to not get hit” often becomes the optimal defense option.
@@akirachisaka9997twin dragon swords have to be the most depth adding weapon I have ever seen in these games. Attacks that have built in dodges, slight ranged abilities with its fable art, a built in parry completely unique and different to all other parties in the entire game that has its own timing and is built into the weapon as opposed to being a FP ability and the dog on its other fable attack.
That weapon has more depth to it than all 400+ weapons in Elden Ring or any in dark souls period.
It's why when I got it I just couldn't go back to anything else again.
Just got done fighting the victor dude whatever his name is big guy, that's when I learned the importance of staying the fuck away from attacks as much as possible and swoop in for quick hits only to run away again lmao
@@thedoomslayer5863Agreed, although I can and will go back to souls games. After beating LoP 3 times, I loaded DS3, and honestly it just felt so soulless and empty. It really drives home the point that Dark Souls games have no emotion or feelings.
@@AlyxTheProtogenI suggest trying with a slow weapon build, too. The hitboxes are so perfect that using the slowest attacks is still possible against the fastest bosses with proper positioning. Land mines are a benefit of that build, too. 😈
who knew making your game more fun than frustrating would be a winning strat
I finished the game last night and god damn it was a FANTASTIC game. I got so invested in the story, parrying has never felt so satisfying, combining weapons is such a great feature and the fact that you can change the scaling with the cranks is HUGE! It gives you an incentive to use whatever blade you want. The boss fights were awesome (except *cough*Simon*cough*), the Brotherhood fight was finally a gank fight DONE RIGHT. This is definitely my favourite game this year.
It is truly a fantastic souls like. It also has the best story of any souls like. and the combat is phenomenal... it is up there with my all time favorites and a game i will always end up coming back to in the years to come!
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@@KingBranDaBroken man after fighting laxsia and magnus one after another the 2nd phase of nameless has worn me out after 10 tries ,, gotta take a break
@@jonathanezell4825 take breaks but be consistent you got this🫡
@@KingBranDaBroken i cant relate its a good game but i just cant get into it even tho sekiro and elden ring are to two favorite games of all time
I had some expectations for Lies of P to be a good game, you know, hoping for a decent Souls-like experience I could enjoy. It turned out to be an absolutely incredible and fantastic journey. I can't wait to see what the developers come up with next.
The Wizard of Oz: Dorothy 👠
I tried the demo when it came out and didn't liked it at all , it felt weird
Lotf came out and i HATED that game and bought lies of P because i needed to play a souls but i've done the game too much , i'm actually at the IX "maps" and god this game is crazy , my first impression was bad and now i'm falling in love with it
@@Elyakelit’s my second souls after Elden ring. And I got stomped by the first miniboss - the baton guy. Took me almost 15 tries but I beat him. Then near the endgame I beat Laxasia in my second attempt. God this game genuinely made me git gud
@@Lilmikey-dh8cd What game? Lotf?
If you talk about lotf there is a lot of thing who doesn't work
you go too far when you attack
there is too much monster everywhere it feels like DS2 with the gank squad everywhere, but it's even worse
The bosses are boring as fuck, none of them are challenging at all
The bosses looked terrible visually compare to the world
The animations are kinda bad honestly
But in all these shit you can find some good thing too
The magic/projectile system is wonderful
the armor looks really sick, probably even better than the armor FS made
But i don't know, I found the game really boring, it's probably my biggest disappointment this year, i don't understand how people can like this game and compare it to DS1/3/ER/LoP, they're years apart from Lotf in almost every way
@@ElyakelLotf is definitely inferior, but I found i could appreciate it when I understood it more. The attacks moving you forward so much actually helps you a ton when fighting crowds, you can maneuver and even dodge just by attacking, which is cool and fixes the gank issues. However, about half the levels and half the bosses are atrocious, with the other half being good, so it just ends up being mid with some high points
one thing i noticed when i started lies of p and the parrying system, was how the attack patterns for most if not all of the bosses is that their attack patterns are so fast that it once again it forces the aggressive gameplay that the devs want
Afm Lies of P is the first soulslike that reached an actual level of the originals. For me it's even better than some of the From software projects. I hope games like Lies of P will make From Software themselves to become better.
Damn must have skipped Code Vein OWO
I’m glad someone hasn’t forgot about it
@@iHoosang Can't wait to do more Code Vein runs and beat the last DLC >W
I’m working on the platinum for Lies of P rn actually and the code vein dlc isn’t wasn’t very popular
Yall just like easy soullike games lol Lies of p was way to easy
It feels so bad that such a great game wasnt even nominated for game of the year. I know that doesnt make a difference but I wanted more people to know about this game
The developer didn't pay the committee off. Plus the game isn't political, so the powers that be don't like it
@@johndodo2062exactly. No where near political enough. Spiderman was riddled with it. Lies of P is my game of the year besides hogwarts. Only because ive wanted a Harry Potter game forever and they pretty much nailed it
My GOTY no questions asked
@johndodo2062 Sekiro isn’t political, neither is Elden Ring but both won GOTY in their respective years
@@johndodo2062- Political? What games are you playing that are "political"?!
I swear there’s a secret game analysis video essay college out there cause these insightful talented entertaining channels just keep popping up out of nowhere
IGN turning from the powerhouse that was widely respected and hiring reviewers that were actually passionate about gaming to.... whatever it is now left a huge opening for independent game reviewers. Plus the Internet and RUclips giving so many an opportunity without the big studio and $$ is great. I love finding channels like this guy so many great creators out there
That souls game ranking hurts to look at.
it makes sense that DS3 is at 7 for him since DS3 is all about the boss fights, but having ER at nr 6 shows me that he doesnt really understand the mechanics that ER introduced which perfected the dark souls combat system/world building/level design
@@A.R0YYYcrap combat, crap world
@@ProstoTeloayy, dont forget the crap copy and paste bosses too
@@jakehurley1242 yeeah to say "perfected" is a bit much. Clearly the dev's first try combing open world gameplay with dark souls, and it shows. Even Miyazaki was recently quoted as basically saying "It's good, but not perfect yet." Which is fuckin' based whether you like the game or not (I do.)
That list is kind of hard to look at though lmao.
Elden Ring perfected level design?
Really? I'm so afraid we are gonna get trash from the guys at Fromsoft now because of fans like you.
ER is inferior to basically every other game they've made. Just a 100 mile wide 1 inch deep puddle. Copy pasted enemies, caves, catacombs, bosses ... It's just not good.
Too many steps backward, and the moments where you get legacy dungeons are separated by miles of trash mob nonsense. And dragons. Copy paste dragons.
Demons souls and dark souls are still peak, along with Bloodborne.
Lies of P is one of the most fantastic games I’ve ever played. It’s been years since I’ve actually looked forward to sitting down and playing a game like I did with Lies of P
GOTY, baybee
Elden ring?
@@erwingoldenballs7382That's what I was going to say.😂
@@erwingoldenballs7382elden ring got boring to me because there were too many same looking dungeons
@@erwingoldenballs7382elden ring is just too big and I don’t really like open worlds. I like how they can focus on a smaller game and really polish the maps and the combat.
Just finished my ng+ run of lies of p
It is now in my top 3 favorite souls games of all time
And honestly i would rank it next sekiro and ds3 in the highest tier of souls games
Lies of p is the first souls game that got me invested 100% into the story which was just amazing, the bosses (although for me personally not as good as ds3 and sekiro bosses) are absolutely amazing but may suffer from some minor design flaws
The soundtrack is masterful and the environement is just on a whole other level and the combat/weapon system are the best ones we've seen yet in a souls,
Even with the minor flaws this game has i would easily give it a 10
This game hasnt ruined souls for me because i still think ds3 has the best bosses and ost and sekiro has the best combat system in any game period
But lies of p easily ranks next to these two to games
This video is amazing btw im subbing
Thank you so much :') love your face, love your show!
Finally someone who shares the love this game deserves
Alright so I recently have started playing Lies of P
I’m no veteran souls like player as I have only beaten bloodborne and elden ring
sure i have played ds 3 and sekiro but I didn’t beat them specially sekiro as I suck truly suck at parrying most of the time so I dropped sekiro
But this game was different. It was the first time I really wanted to try it out solely because it was Pinnoccio I was playing as and the gothic atmosphere which reminded me of bloodborne
this game basically is the perfected version of sekiro and bloodborne combined. What this game has is the fact that you ate versatile enough to deal with enemies the way you see fit. For me? I want to parry as it feels nice to stagger enemies and knowing the fact that they are just as vulnerable as I am and knowing that they might lose their own weapons with just me parrying them and also what you didn’t point out was that Human bosses have different builds just like us.
Fir example Lady in white felt much easier for me to handle since I had the same build and same weapon type and move sets (was using etiquette) and it just felt exciting to know that she could parry me just like how I could parry her.
i really found Romeo the hardest boss for me (I have not yet finished the game but he just felt extremely scary to beat)
what romeo had was Technique build with advance but he felt like he had just a little bit of everything in him
and honestly he was too fast for me to parry so i dodged and dodged and parried like 2 times but to me, every boss improved my parrying skill a bit. specially romeo and mad donkey.
I just think that this game really deserves all the praise it gets and I hope to see a dlc for it probably soon.
its not just pretty good, its game of the year for me.
Me too. Not sure if it's because I could never get into souls games before this. It's probably in my top 5 games of all time at this point. I think with other souls titles they're so cryptic with the story and the fact his has a heart felt one built in grabbed me. What it has done is make me want to try more. Well done that team for an absolute banger of a game. The production levels in this game are absolutely incredible. Now you will find me in the Lands Between! I'm telling you now if it was a FS game people would have taken more notice.
I re-beat dark souls 3 and lies of p in close proximity to each other and while i wouldnt say lies of p has exceeded from soft, i think it absolutely deserves to sit next to from's games as the top of the genre. Immaculately made and so beautifully well thought out. Absolutely nail3d whatbit set out to do and is very consistent throughout. I do think the last 2 bosses were a little too easy though
I haven't played Lies Of P yet, but I imagine it's at least better than Elden Ring. Loved Dark Souls 3, though. Beat that game like 20 times.
@keytwitchyPhD that's tough because Elden Ring and Lies of P are structurally veryy different. It really would come down to preference. If you preferred ds3 you'd probably like lies more than ER
you're telling me nameless puppet was easy to you? god bless you man
@_angel04 maybe i just got lucky, idk 😅 I see a lot of people say he was rough so maybe it was a fluke
@@CurtTheHero yeah i mean his first phase is nothing to stress about but i struggled on his second for a good part of an hour. i ended up besting him with the holy sword of the ark after trying to use that one poison dagger that carried me through a good chunk of the game
There is something that every single developer overlooks while designing... The weight of the characters and the rythm used in walking animation, that can convey the power of the build but it always lacks
Seriously! I’ve felt this way forever.
I am immediately drawn to or critical of a game based on the core animations...especially walking/running since that’s usually the primary means of travel. They don’t have to be hyper realistic but they need to make sense for the character and look fluid. Something about a wonky walk/run just rubs me the wrong way.
Can someone please tell me what the song is around 10:00? I checked the OST and couldn't find it.
Memory of Beach
The interchangeable handles/blades really got me interested. Thanks for a thorough review! I have fallen in love with Souls like games recently and I am adding this to my list of games to play.
Did you play it yet??
@@RBondZ007 I am most of the way through the game. Its amazing.
This is my first experience in souls like games and i can honestly say this is one of the best games i have ever played. Story is good, combat feels fluid, graphics are amazing, athmosphere is great, well optimized. If you have a pc definetly buy gamepass just for this game! I just started my 2nd playthrough and Been loving it. Note the game gets a lot harder on 2nd playthrough
One of the things that Lies of P does so well is original music. This is so evident in the records you can collect. You don't have to listen to them but if you do you are not only rewarded with character progression but the music itself is so damn good that even those moments feel just as satisfying as the combat. In fact I love that you have to go back to the Hotel to play them. In those moments I find myself reflecting on my progress thus far and begin to get excited for as to what comes next.
These are actually reworked songs that neowiz has been involved with before in a game called DJMax (I believe). Most, if not all, the songs were originally created years prior. However, I feel like the reworks are masterful in adding depth to LoP
Interesting. I did not know that
One thing I never hear anyone talk about when they mention the guard recovery system, is it doesn’t just rally if you hit the enemy but you also rally when perfect guarding, turning a defensive mechanic into an offensive mechanic on top of causing the enemy to be groggy or break their weapon makes your options to rally more engaging in how you wanna regain health. And how you wanna be aggressive, be it damage or poise/weapon health
I was going to comment about my experience with Lies of P (of which was good), but I think the more important thing to comment is just how happy it makes me to hear you just gush and genuinely loving a game so much. Just an such enjoyable video.
My p-organ is gushing
You, sir, have made me want to replay this game from the start and try a new build- after I’ve already platinumed this game, beat NG+++ and put over 115 hours into the game.
Do a fisting only run its fun
I haven’t had such a visceral, in-love reaction to a game since my first playthrough of ER. I freaking LOVE this game and can’t wait to see what else this studio has in store for us
I had the exact same reaction to this game! It blew me away! Easily my GOTY! The last game that I loved instantly and hooked me completely was Returnal! Can't wait for the dlc and sequel! It is astonishing what Round 8 was able to achieve here!
Another reason why I personally prefer the parry (in sekiro, havent played lies of p yet) over the mandatory dodge roll, is because Ive always felt like dodgerolling in souls games, while necessary to survive, doesnt look like it should realistically prevent the damage it prevents. For some fights and enemies it makes perfect sense, but in other cases something bigger than the screen chomps down onto you and everything around you in a 5 mile radius and you simply seem to turn into a ghost for the duration of your i-frames. It doesnt look like you dodge, it just looks like the attacks phase through your body without damaging you, which is something you obviously get used to and learn to ignore when you play from soft games, but at the same time it feels a lot less satisfying than landing a chain of parries in sekiro. My brain has a way easier time believing that I somehow parried that huge attack with my own weapon than that I would simply roll through it without being hurt. On top of that there are of course attacks that you cannot parry and then have to jump over or roll away from, but in souls games the dodgeroll quickly turned into a universal solution for everything, no matter if it made sense or not, and that just doesnt feel as satisfying to me.
It's more satisfying because it's quicker, lets you control your position (you remain where u were), is more responsive, looks way cooler than rolling in dirt like a pig, and due to being quicker u can have bosses do a giant flurry of near instant swings and have it be perfect for a rapid parry session whereas with a roll those quick follow ups would "roll catch" you and it would feel unfair.
I really love this game. I played through it 3 times to get the 100% on steam. It is great to see that some competion emerges in this monopolized by Fromsoftware sub genre.(Dont take it wrong I am in awe of their games everytime I play them) I hope that more studios will emerge with more brave ideas that will push the genre into an even brighter future.
Whatever this studio does next might actually be INSANE. I'm here for it I cannot wait :')
@@Sputnik34 Looking at what rolled after the credits in LOP I am in your boat man
@@kortogon I unironically pogged 😂
monopolized by FromSoftware ? They fking invented it what are you talking about ?
@@Stefan-gz6jm Yes they did. Monopolised is not a good word for that I am aware of this but I couldnt find any better that would convey what I think about the current state of Souls genre so I rolled with this one
When you showed those reviews I just thought "damn, gamers deserve nothing" LMAO
ban all gamers
@@Sputnik34 Truly agree 100%
@@Sputnik34What did i do????
Reviews are fake ya know lol
Having lose sleep to Lies of P and Starfield, I can tell you, reviews now are just any redditors
Great video man!! Glad to see small creators do such amazing content.
Im on my first play through, and i noticed that the puppet bosses talk. Then i noticed what they say (im working on beating the kings flame fueco) and im already like... oof theres layers here
I love how it shows what they say on the second playthrough. Also as you lie more and become more human (literally) you can hear P change from just mechanical sounds to grunts and breathing and sounds of pain. As well as the death animation can change from regular puppet deactivating to more lifelike death. It’s neat attention to detail and makes the choices actually worthwhile
I stumbled across this video on complete chance and it’s beautiful to see someone who shares the same love for this game. I never played any souls game besides Elden ring and started sekiro and because of this parry system it has pushed me to excel at sekiro. Also, the ending had the best heart warming moment with the Facination (Golden). Best song on the OST
i'm so happy you found it! the OST is incredible but Facination (Golden) is easily one of the best. It's that, Memory Of Beach, or Feel for my #1
I think you're mistaking something about Dark Souls' combat: it's _supposed_ to be focused on the enemies over the player. It's a game where you have to always be on the look out for opportunities to attack bosses and attack them then rather than on your own terms (unless your build facilitates that).
Dark Souls is a game where bosses tell the player, "Die", as they bounce around the battlefield and hit you with everything they have, and the player's response is, "No, I don't think I will". You don't beat bosses, they try to beat you and, after taking the beating, you say, "Is that all you've got?", before walloping them.
If you like Lies of P's combat over Dark Souls', that's okay, but what the two games' combat try to achieve are entirely different. They're different in the same way that Dark Souls and Bloodborne combat is different: one is slow and methodical, where you have to balance defense and offence, while the other is aggressive, where your offence is also your defense.
Lies of P is wasy easier too. And from what I can tell there are no early on traps like in Dark souls. Lies of P is inspired by souls but for sure its own methodical action style.
@@steve87jI sharply disagree, I find Lies of P much harder than say DS and Elden Ring, a bit harder than Sekiro too (besides the first playthrough of Sekiro) why do you think it’s easy? Or what’s easy about it for you?
@@volktol4432 idk I just didn't die as often as in souls. I died all the time in sekiro. I think elden ring has huge dependency on your build. Same for all souls games. Sekiro is universally hard. And lies of p is more basic. I started with og demon souls which is way harder than lies of p
@@volktol4432timings are definitely easier this isnt an arguement i thought? aswell as the streamlined story its a much softer experience as it has a different story focus i thought?
@@Bryan-hl5si I’m not arguing, I was just asking and making discussion, so don’t worry about that. And me disagreeing isn’t me hating on your opinion. And I agree the straight story is easier but that’s also how Sekiro and dark souls are. They have side paths but there’s only one maybe two ways for your main path
Started playing soulslikes in my 40s, so i think that helps me be more open to new games. I cut my teeth on elden ring, bloodborne and sekiro. I played them at about the same time. Beating sekiro felt amazing, learning to play the game as intended and actually doing it felt amazing.
In Sekiro, you don't level up your character, you level up your self 😂
@@20starterblue23 You do level up your character.
And in any souls game you do level up yourself.
It's the same thing
You touched on 2 things that ive some of the biggest gripes ive had with as im going through my very first FS/Elden Ring playthrough:
1. The obscurity of quests and following them. NPCs describe them in ways that are incoherent if you were were not born in the 15th century and there is no way to track them or see how much you have progressed. this ties into another issue i have which is the item descriptions having no specific number details. If its FS attempting to stop players from min-maxing builds they have failed because there wouldnt be as many guides/calculators/YT videos dedicated for them.
2. You are not incentivized to fight ER bosses aggressively because of their combo chains. say a moveset has 3-5 combos. doing 2 movesets back to back is completely fine. however the issue becomes more and more annoying when the bosses can do 3 or more movesets straight without any real stamina cost on their part. on top of that they can jump out of the punish window by the second hit and immediately follow it up with attacks that will 1-2 shot your healthbar, while you are stuck in animation. IMO it quickly turns the experience of beating bosses from a sense of accomplishment to now a sense of relief because of the game artificially punishes you with what feels like gimmicks.
I disagree that you need to learn to parry to beat Lies of P. I beat the game and every boss in the game without ever learning to parry. I relied almost entirely on dodging and sprinting around to avoid attacks.
Me too. No problem beating this game with dodge only.
I sucked at parrying in this game and still managed to beat it just fine. It definitely took longer than it would have, had I taken the time to really get good at it. I just really had a very hard time getting the timing right, so instead of continuously getting murdered while trying to parry, I realied on dodging and guard regain instead. There are many different ways to beat this game. Honestly you could just spam throwables at pretty much every single boss and breeze through it without ever dying. So, learning how to parry definitely isn't necessary.
yeah i agree. sekiro definitely not but lies of p is doable without parrying.
@@rhyswhittington8759 I was very good at parrying in Sekiro. I breezed through it 4 times in a row to get every ending, and every trophy. By the third game I could get through without ever dying. The parry systems are very different between the two games. Sekiro is just a hair better than LOP. They're both still amazing games, though.
@@DoneWEvry1 agreed. i was not good at parrying and sekiro for me was easily the hardest fromsoft game to this day. my first sekiro playthough almost broke me. that platinum was torture haha. theres something off about the parrying in lies of p though. i think its because you have to commit to it and it you do it early you cant do it again for a second. might also be the lightning fast movements of some enemies with the slow parry that feels off.
the ending song was the cherry on top of this video great video man!! really hope one day im looking at game reviews in the future and stubble across you again
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You really don't need to spend time in menus in Nioh, just pick up everything you see and between every few missions just sell it all or convert your stuff into materials. If you do happen to get a rarer piece of armor/weapon then it's worthwhile to check it immediately, but otherwise you can just skip the menu hell entirely, so it's not really that different from dark souls.
that's a fair point! maybe i'll give the game a go with that mindset again sometime
You said it right the first time. It's "Souls" not "SoulsBorne ". Lies of P is the best Souls-like so far! Also I appreciate the majula theme. DS2 best Souls game!
Aside from your Dark Souls 3 take (not sure what's going on there), I agree with everything in this video. Your parrying vs dodging explanation is brilliant and really eye opening when you think about what makes a game like this more engaging. Really shows how important and influential the introduction of the mechanics in Sekiro were to the genre. I just got this game a couple days ago, but I'm about 6 hours in and completely hooked. There have always been moments in fromsoftware games where I'll think to myself "I'm not a fan of this boss/area," but so far I haven't had any of those thoughts with this game, but rather every new boss or area I come across I love even more than the last one. This is easily my game of the year, and great effort with the video.
as someone who has beaten vanilla ds3 twice, and modded a further two times, I also do not like ds3, I don't understand why nobody agrees 😭
@@icantthinkofanamerightnow7967 Because it has the best bosses in gaming history, and its just the souls formula expanded in great ways, dont know why you don't like it
@@brashminecraft2300 areas in DS3 are much more tunnelly and the need of Making boss harder made the gameplay much more flat since in the end you fighting them all in the same way which makes the game very repetitive on subsequent playthroughs
@@unimportant719Absolute nonsense. You having that opinion should be have you put on a list
@@JustAPersonalUseBarb answer my points instead of saying”nuh uh”without refuting anything
I played a lot of DS3 and something never felt right about it
the amount of time the potion regen come clutch on a boss fight in this game is actually wtf
It's BRILLIANT
I cried when i saw Sophia sitting the bird cage. This story hurts my soul. So well thought out.
I shed some serious tears and I still don’t know which choice is right 🥺
@@SubsNoVids-il4lf giving her peace is what she asked for so i never questioned what was right. she said shes been through so much pain:(
You cried? C'mon bro.
@@geremyas1373 Yeah, I actually teared up too! 😢
Not everyone is as "cool" as you. 😓
Some people are more emotional than others you know. 🙄
@@geremyas1373 Ah yes because people can't show emotions smh...
I don't necessarily agree with you but the way you talk about DS2 makes me realize......this game feels a lot like DS2 in terms of movement. Like DS2+Sekiro combined. Heavy and momentum focused but with them parries and a less than ideal dodge button.
I can totally see a DS2 fan liking this game over Fromsoft's recent games. I say this with no shade, I much prefer Elden's "snappier" style, but we all like different things
You definitely haven't understood the system Nioh has in place properly and this is the issue i see most fromsoft players have with the game. You don't need to sit in the menu and meticulously go through each gear piece as you are progressing. There are levels and rarities and simple damage numbers which exist in every game of this type, while also having 2 main stats to look into being weight and toughness stuff that exists in all of these types of games. Additional effects are simply that additional effects you can search and look at what they are but while u progress through the game you do not need that. These buffs give you some of the most extensive build variety of any action combat game out there in the end game. You get your loot and build whatever you want, that's the endgame of nioh. What Dark souls games force you into for the most part is sticking with 1 weapon due to the lack of upgrade material, this is incredibly limiting in terms of build and doesn't allow experimentation on the part of the player and is there to create a fake sense of replay value in these games, meanwhile in nioh you can pick up whatever gear piece, build and weapon you want you can experiment so incredibly much with it that it's simply incredible. Nioh has a bunch of other flaws, i.e the enemy balancing and some level design elements. Nioh 2 fixes every issue and improves the game 1000 fold and is the ultimate game of this genre and has yet to be dethroned. Highly recommend it to everyone who hasn't tried it
There are other problems in nioh - the combat system is just fine, but - you have few opponents and their variety to use them
The problem of the design of locations and opponents
While playing 1 nioh, I found myself thinking that I was playing the alpha version of a promising project with a combat system rather than a full-fledged game
The gear system frustrated me and knocked me out of the dive with its numbers - I hate such lazy progression systems and it would be better if they didn't exist
The god of war has the same problem with equipment
@@Levin_sun If we are strictly talking nioh 1 then yeah the lack of enemy variety is a real thing which was remedied in nioh 2, however they compensate the lack of enemy variety by adding the quality to these encounters, each monster is unique in how you approach and fight them, with varied movesets especially in nioh 2, some nioh 2 regular enemies have more moves than bosses in the souls series, i'd fight 10 more Fuki or Suiki before half the boss roster in the first 3 souls games. The visual design of all of the yokai enemies is also great and fits the lore they ascribe to, both with the moves and looks.
Now as for the locations all of the main story locations for both Nioh 1 and Nioh 2 are unique and some are absolutely amazing like the Mausoleum of Evil is just incredible, not to mention the DLC areas. and while sure the levels don't have those shortcuts or whatnot from the original souls game, they are indeed more linear with more planned out encounters that's a preference thing and not a real indictment on the game itself.
The Equipment thing is again your own personal preference. In Dark Souls the way you get better equipment is by choosing a weapon and being forced to choose precisely not knowing what you might eventually get and focus on that weapon due ot the scarcity of materials and then only in NG+ can you begin experimenting properly without fully hampering your damage. Nioh games use a calassic ARPG style where weapons are tied to specific stats and bonuses, mind you you can ignroe these unless you are going for a full endgame build which is the same way it works in any classic ARPG which is what nioh's system is. You can just go and grab the bigger and better weapon and keep on trucking or you can just use your first katana and beat the game just fine, you aren't limited in what you can or cannot use you aren't forced to choose a specific weapon and stick to it you are encouraged to diversify and use whatever you like and build whatever diverse build you like, while being able to respec whenever you so please. It's just a completely different system that you didn't engage with properly because you either aren't a fan of such a system or you don't like the system to begin with, either way that is not a flaw with the game inherently, it's a preference thing. I like way more being able to use any weapon i want swapping based off the boosts that i like and just changing up weapons on the go, whereas in dark souls i grab the strongest bonking stick level it up and never change because of the scarcity of materials, it's just a different system.
@@neyouno Complete and utter bulld. That was maybe true for a few FS titles, like Bloodborne and Demon's Souls, but from DS3 onwards you can pretty much upgrade a lot of weapons to the max without having to go to NG+.
@shiroamakusa8075
Dark Souls 3 has close to 200 weapons but has 15 titan slabs which are needed to max out a weapon which means 15/200 weapons aka 7.5%
Elden ring has 308 weapons in the base game and 107 in the dlc totalling around 415 weapons
In the base game of elden ring there are 13 ancient dragon smithing stones and 8 anicent somber stones. The dlc adds 8 ancient smithing stones and 6 ancient sober stones
Meaning you can max out 35/415 weapons aka 8%
Ds2 lets you infinitely farm slabs
So tell me please how i am bullshitting here??
@@neyouno What a dishonest reply. How many weapons will you be using per playthrough? Certainly not all 100+ of them. You are not going to change weapons every hour now, are you? For any normal playthrough there are enough materials to max out whatever weapon strikes your fancy even if you don't go into a playthrough with a planned build in mind. Also, in case you don't know, but you don't need to actually max every weapon, especially not the +25 normal ones in ER.
So your little calculation is completely irrelevant.
I finished Lies of P and it was hard but I loved it. Then I went to Lords of the fallen. And that made me realize how much of a quality game that P was. Neowiz pulled off something that can actually compete and I hope they expand on it with that Wizard of Oz ending. Maybe give us some good
DLC's. Then another release with feedback from fans. I have high hope for this company.
Different strokes. I really did not enjoy Lies of P. I'm in love with Lords of the Fallen
@@synnical77 I like them both, I just think the teams had different niches they were trying to build out.
LotF built exploration and interconnectedness so so so much more and the whole world is seamless. If you don’t have performance issues, it’s a really great game.
Lies of P in contrast is mostly hallway type levels and it isn’t bad but it’s not nearly as intricate or impressive to explore. The combat, however, is tighter in many ways to its credit. The only feature it really feels off to not have is the weapon switching from LotF.
Overall they’re both great. I just prefer the block/parry/dodge split in Lies of P, and the story it’s telling.
The reason for me that lies of P is so good is that it takes the good from soulslike games and then adds its own elements and mechanics to improve upon it. The appeal of these games is the difficult enemies, realistic combat e.g. parry, side step, roll, block etc. and customisation of combat through weapons and abilities. A lot of studios get inconvenience/annoying/tedious mixed up with difficulty and thats what ruins some titles e.g. lords of the fallen.
A game thats not a soulslike but takes these elements really well is god of war, some bosses in this game are close to the difficulty of the hardest souls bosses e.g. sigrun, god king etc
The comments say a lot about this game, it was made to be bought by all of the people who whinged about ganks, runbacks, and how unfair dark souls games are. Lies of P is just Dark Souls: Barbie holds your hand edition.
Lmao why are you so mad
@@Sputnik34 Why are you so generic? Who even says that anymore, everyone knows it is just transference.
i'm not generic, i'm just drawn that way
Tbh with you, I love this game so much. The aesthetic, the mechanics, the environmental storytelling, I loved how sad yet amazing this game feels. This game became my second favourite soul game ever right beside Sekiro. The only complaint I would say it has for me is the perfect parry window frame. But that may be just me still learning or being bad with my timing
The parry time window is fine honestly, it’s pretty easy to get the hang of , especially if you are use to playing games that require good hand-to-eye coordination.
@@itstroy4145 Then I'm just bad with my timing 🤧
@@Alcappuci don’t get me wrong though, there are literal gods out there at this game that barely miss parries lol I don’t know how they do it but it is satisfying once you get somewhat of a grip on it
I have beaten LoP, and i actually agree with pretty much everything this guys just said in the review. But like you, I have only 1 very small "complaint", and that too is the parry window. I would really have liked a parry window that was just a TINY bit easier to hit, and then i think all bosses and enemies should get more HP to balance it, and perhaps a little less guard regain.
Besides that I have no complaints!
Now I will get my redemption and beat Sekiro! The only game from FS i haven't beaten!
@slappemor1 If you loved Lies of P systems of parrying, then you would love sekiro's one. And the bosses *chef kiss*
You put everything I feel about this game into words, thank you. I'm glad it's not just me that felt this way about Lies of P. My expectations for any future souls like game have shifted because of this game. I don't think anything will come close to how good this was for a long time. Looking forward to see what you think of the future lies of P DLC coming out in the future.
After only playing Elden Ring before Lies of P, it has instantly been skyrocketed to one of my top games of all time.
You said so, you only played Elden ring xd for people who came from all Miyazaki’s games this is just a “good” soulslike
@@Elieli09 considering Elden ring is there pinnacle. That's a pretty stupid comment to make. It's a masterpiece of a game. Ignore what From soft have made.
@@ashleygray1632 I wouldn't say Elden Ring was their pinnacle, it's not even their best to date. The size of it, and the open world crippled the formula somewhat imo.
@@Elieli09I’ve played all fromsoft’s souls games and Lies of P is better imo than at least DeS, DS1 and DS2.
@@Elieli09I’ve played all fromsoft’s souls games and Lies of P is better imo than at least DeS, DS1 and DS2.
Lies of P is great, but it lacks the design that dark souls has. The areas and enemies are not difficult. Just some bosses and some elites are comparable but barely. And I don't even parry that good but you have so many mechanics that make it easy imo. Most enemies you can just strafe and avoid most attacks and you are good. Love the game and aesthetics and music but it still needs more to be considered great.
Lies of p is my game of the year so far! Outstanding fun game . They nailed it . Hit a home run.
I'm ecstatic to see you finally blow up with this vid! Hugely well-deserved and you should be immensely proud! (Also, you convinced me to play Lies of P, haha.)
You won't be disappointed!!! Thanks so much for watching. Love your face love your show
My favorite part about lies of p is the fact it always lets you stay in the fight when you're low on heals or have none. In other souls games there's been so many times where Im just like "welp I've lost now" and that's pretty much gone now. It allows us to be decently aggressive instead of running away doing one hit when we're low on everything.
Bro that's crazy one of the most satisfying things in dark souls is killing that boss you've been stuck on with 0.1 HP
@@gigapac Usually when that happens you already are close the end of the fight already. If it's early and you lost all your heals its basically over most of the time. I beat some bosses low hp anyways, but the regen just keeps runs alive and learn their moves easier. If I could fight a LONG fight like midir with heal regens I'd probably like the fight more.
@@galaxyvulture6649 ohhhh yeah I understand that's totally fair that's a super frustrating feeling when you get caught in a combo like 3 times in a row early because of one mistake and lose all your estus
Yeah it's like sekiro, since you have good defense mecanics, you can still play even low on health, the other souls game where you only have your roll and you know there are some bosses attacks that are near impossible to dodge so being low early on the fight means you'll lose.
yea felt like an amalgamation of the genre, trully inspired by the previous. put some notes and went to the drawing board polishing out the rough edges.
before i started playing “souls-like” games, Lies of P just looked super generic & like some of the reviews said, just a bad rip off of dark souls. After playing it, i realize that most of the bad reviews on this game are probably from people who are bad at the game, or people who never want to see when a “copy” is as good as the original . Lies of P definitely isnt for everyone, but it sure is a great game & as good, if not better, than what it takes influence from.
Lie of p look pretty good, I'll try it when it goes on sale. I'm more of a nioh 2 stan. The combat in that game makes me say, "Oh good heavens, im about to splurge." The crack addled switchglave bayblade combat is beautiful.
As someone who never played a souls like untill Lies of P, this was an amazing game to get into the genre
agreed! it made me fall in love with the genre, but i’m afraid others won’t be as good
@@lunarraebloodborne, sekiro, ds3 and demon souls are way better than lies of p
@@yenes3236 cool!
@@lunarraeand dark souls 1 and Elden ring
@@Sean-gy4ej i actually loved elden ring, but it’s been a while since i’ve played it.
Liking DS2 and disliking i-frames is based, but I do disagree with your opinion on Nioh.
Nioh doesn’t just have an interesting combat system, it’s a great combat system. It’s so much more than just the stances. It’s honestly my equivalent of how you see LoP, and I haven’t even played Nioh 2 yet.
I don’t personally care that much about the loot system but you can easily just look at the loot after you’ve cleared the mission instead of during it. And chances are that 90% is going to be sold, offered to gain amrita, and disassembled anyway. And then another 9% will be used for things like Soul Matching, and the remaining 1% is what you’re actually going to be using.
Yo idk who tf you are but you absolutely killed this video. Incredible editing, great enthusiasm, and a wonderful in depth analysis of the game while still giving some QUITE cheeky opinions as well! 😂
Thank you!
I think the key aspect a lot of 'souls-likes' miss, along with Lies of P, is the ability to get lost and veer off path.
Dark Souls, Bloodbourne, Sekiro have a level of mystery with them that has not been replicated in the same mysterious way. The ability to veer off of path, or go somewhere completely different and realise there is an obstuction/path that cannot be accessed until you reach a certain level of progression in another area is invaluable.
An example in DS1 - You have 7 locations from the get go that are all woven together. For example you CAN go into the catacombs right at the start, however you will reach the yellow blocked door that you cannot access until later. This feeling of 'oh wow ive discovered this, but i need something to get past it', is CRUCIAL to the feeling of awe and mystery that Souls games posess.
Even bloodbourne which is more linear. After Cathedral ward you can choose different paths to venture down that converge or serve purpose to another location that you have to find.
yep this is my problem with lies of p i think, and why i just dont enjoy it as much as everyone else or nearly as much as the fromsoft titles, you can get lost inside of a level in lies of p, but you cant get lost inside the world
Another method of avoiding enemy attacks that gives even MORE options to the player is that most enemies in Lies of P have a pretty short reach, and therefore, simply running away or dancing around them is often pretty effective - even against most fury attacks! I definitely relied on that fact before I knew the attack timings. Elden Ring is equally dear to my heart, but it was kind of refreshing when Lies of P tended to pit me against bosses smaller than buildings, whose attacks didn't sweep the entire arena.
Did you even play Lies of P for more than 20 minutes? The first boss is large and has aoe attacks. I will freely admit the bosses and enemies are not overdone in size like Elden Ring, but there are plenty of large mobs in that game, including bosses. Some enemies may have short reach, but there are also plenty that have long reach. The clown that throws out his fists? Laxasia and the spear that is 50 feet long all of a sudden? Laxasia when she does her upward swipe attack combo can also skate forward and track you. The game is good but I'm tired of people ignoring things like this to make a point that doesn't exist.
@@georgen5882did you? The green monster has that reaching slam fury that if you run under his legs he completely whiffs it. And this puts you right behind him to punish. Alot of fury attacks can be avoided by backing off or being smart with movement if you can't perfect block them consistently. Scrapped was easy enough to learn the timing of so I just perfect blocked everything and strafed left before hitting.
This is the only game I tried to finish thrice. The weapon builds and stat builds are really really interesting for experimentation!
Elden ring did it better!
@@CursedOniGaming I played it too along with the other souls series, but kinda liked this game better. I was hesitant to play this game at first (I was expecting its another souls rip-off), but I really loved the game and its mechanics.
@@CursedOniGamingno it didn't. That game is garbage after run 1. Boring af
@@jedagoncilloallot of people, prominent people in the souls area, are saying the same. This game is just better and the from stans, of which I was one, need to grow up. Every king falls. Elden was overrated to begin with. Check the user scores. Elden sits at a 7
@@johndodo2062I kinda think so too. I enjoyed playing Elden Ring, but I liked this game better. It took some elements from other souls games but man, did not expect that this game did it better. Even my kids love it. haha
24:45 I was really confused at first when I went through the final door and didn't find a boss, then it hit me. Lorenzini Arcade IS the boss. They made a whole area that FEELS like a boss, without a boss. Every time you unlock one of the 3 doors, it's like a phase of a boss. You're given new enemies and challenges behind each door almost like a new 'boss phase'.
I loved your video and subbed!🤩If the studio keeps making souls like based off of fairy tales with dark twists, I'm sold, especially if the story continues with the Wizard of Oz.
I feel the same but for Nioh 2.
It's got a great gameplay loop with draining an enemy of stamina allowing you to go ham at them
And the quality of life changes makes it feel so much better than the original fromsoft games
Can I play it without playing the first one
@@viviennewestwoodruinedmylife Nioh 2 is a prequel to Nioh, but yes they work as standalone games and are very similar, but Nioh 2 imo is better.
@@viviennewestwoodruinedmylife
Yes, nioh 2 has everything the first one has and even more, and you're not losing much in terms of story
This game is a master piece didn't got hooked by a game since Elden Ring but Lies of P did better it actually maked me cried with the insanes boss fights where you learn with each defeat, or the atmoshere of the game and the ost.
My heart never beat so hard and my eyes never cried so much before this game.
Great video bro! I loved how you explained all your points. A+ video
@@robertsagasta1983 thank you! :') be sure to check my newest video on the silent hill 2 remake!
Truly an amazing game. Lies of P is my first real soulslike & it made me fall in love with the sub genre.
Lessgoooooo
just play Bloodborne, this game is nothing is comparison
@@silkspectre7979 lol
In my opioniong thos game is way better than bloodborne beat bloodborne 3 tims and im half way through lies of p and its significantly better just my opinion @silkspectre7979
As someone who has never played lies of P, I agree.
You're so real for this
its actually so nice to see someone have same thoughts as me i personally like sekiro much but all of from software games has been defeated by lies of p by my side nice video btw liked it so much
i feel heard, i legit cannot for the life of me finish ds3, its so unenjoyable, yet ive replayed ds1 many times and have all the achievements and was in the process of doing the same for ds2
As good as Lies of P is, I don't see myself doing more than 5 or 6 playthrus (and I'm already on NG+ of my second character, that finished NG+ alrdy). I have 16 clears on Elden Ring and literally 900 hours invested.
I don't get how people do not get bored of Elden Ring. The first half of the game is literally just sitting on your horse for hours straight to collect materials interrupted by the occasional legacy dungeon.
@@MrPatrickbuit You should try a no horse run. You can actually access like 99.999% of the map without it, and it's fun.
@@Lich___ That sounds anything but fun
i have only beaten elden ring once and got a burn out from it like how the hell do you have 900 hours
@@Avdb033 might be because it was my first souls/soulslike, so it was a vastly different gaming experience for me. But I ultimately started theory crafting builds to mim/max for various set ups, amd they all play very differently.
Cannot wait for the DLC, I hope it’s not as linear and same with the sequel.
I’d like to see more customization options also, like being able to choose what coat, shirt, and pants you can wear instead of just one big outfit. Maybe dyes also
Bro HOW haven't you beaten Elden Ring yet?! Get on it! Surely you can't have very much of your playthrough left
I have to agree with pretty much everything you said in this video. I was so impressed with how good this game was. I honestly didn't think it was even possible that some devs were able to possibly outdo Dark Souls. Honestly this game might be the one. The way they implemented all the aspects of a Souls game is pretty much improved upon in L.O.P.. One thing for sure,I hope they add more content or straight up make a L.O.P.2. I would gladly help pump up that hype train.
This has been one of the video games where I gave myself the opportunity to get to know this genre and the truth is that I was captured by this game. Its design never pleased me with this genre but now I enjoy it more and it gives me the opportunity to try other games like from software
So whenever I play a game of any genre, the base expectation I have is that I'm going to enjoy it. That's it. I'm going to enjoy the gaming experience of what I paid for. I'm not looking for the best gaming experience of my life or some genre-defining spectacle. Just something I'll enjoy playing for the time I play it. I had the same expectations for Lies of P. When I tell you this game GREATLY exceeded my expectations. The story, level design, weapons, enemies, boss fights, music (OMG the MUSIC!!!!) like man this game is one of the best games I've played this year.
It's SO GOOD
A bit late to the party, but watching the video, it was like someone (for the most part) was reading my own thoughts and impressions of Lies of P back to me.
To me, after +100 hours and a few playthroughs, Lies of P has joined hands with other videogame Gods in the pantheon of gaming.
Making a decent souls game is deceptively hard. It's like the production of an orchestra. There are many bits and piece to it, but in the end it's the gestalt and the culmination of those pieces that matters. If a single part is below decent, not only is it felt by the audience but it also hurts the overall impression of the product.
To everyone's surprise, LoP feels like a game made by veteran Souls developers while delivering the creativity of a fresh mind. Its existence would be utterly unbelievable if it wasn't in front of our eyes already. It gets so many things right that even with its minor flaws it feels morally wrong to give it anything but a 10/10.
Hell yeah :') thanks for the comment and I'm glad you dig this game as much as I do!
awesome video bro, your GASPs out of nowhere jump scared me a couple times LOL
"if you are like me and your favourite from games are sekiro, bloodborne and ds2..."
This hit the right spot for me. While sekiro and bb dont need any explaination, ds2 is the odd one here. Tho I cant say that its my favourite, i still hold much love for it. I get why people are pushed away from it and consider it the worst but i wish that it could be apprietiated more. Especialy when "hating ds2" is a common knowledge even among ppl who didnt give it a shot.
The thing I love the most about lies of p is creating new weapons and creating a new combat style that way. Imagine an elden ring type game where you can pick an ash of war, a combat art, plus all the normal attacks each weapons have. It makes it a souls game that feel like absolver allowing you to create not just a character but your own weapon and combat style
In my opinion, Lies of P offers levels that are mainly straightforward, less interconnected than DS1 except one area you included that obviously becomes the best area. It offers combat that has less potential dedicated build variety, instead focusing on secondary numbers, and blocking even few essential combat abilities, that exist by default in every similar game, behind a skill tree. In addition, it offered a demo which had less showcase than Nioh's beta demo that featured 4 or 5 levels and bosses instead of 3. Also, the game featured bosses that were less memorable than your least favorite from software game mostly cranking the difficulty by adding random numbers to attack timings while not telegraphing correctly.
However, it offered a better durability system that turned it into a management mini game, mix and match mechanic and a rally system that has been implemented in a more superior way in Lords of the Fallen with its Metacritic score of 72.
I can't see it ruining Dark Souls for me to be real, guess we are all happy with ourselves! Wish you all the best though, I just stated my personal experience as you did. Cheers🤗
It's all a moot point anyways since without 15 years of Souls we'd never have gotten LoP anyhow. Whether it ruins or not is secondary to the fact that From created a genre, whilst LoP is simply an entry in that genre.
The quest icons in the bonfire menu are EXACTLY what FromSoftware need to implement. They don't spoil anything about the story, and I also don't have to search a wiki for how to progress a quest.
Something I love about Fromsoft, something that's absolutely revolutionary in this era, is that they never once take away your agency. In absolutely none of their games are you forced to walk just so characters can explain the plot to you. This is a key element of what makes their games so replayable, and it's never talked about.
Im so glad I finally tried this genre, I always wrote off sword games and was a typical COD fanboy for years but now I have so many amazing games to experience for the first time
You're gonna have a BLAST :')
Welcome to the real world
Nioh has THE BEST movement and combat BY FAR so make sure you really give it a good try one day.
I actually think your ranking of Fromsoft games is quite fair, especially when talking replayability and overall satisfaction. Sekiro and bloodborne are both quite dense… but also very polished and almost never boring (lies of p falls in this category as well).
Though I personally would put ds3 higher on the list, it does suffer from a lot of sluggish and un-fun sequences, which almost makes me dread picking it up again- Even more so with elden ring.
2 and 3 would be swapped in my opinion.
Dude, this is scary but I agree with you on every sentence you spoke throughout the 40+ minutes of video!
Good vid! It’s funny the “improvements” you mentioned such as having a clear story and having quest marks are their downfalls to me when I played it because I prefer vague stories and discovering quests on my own😂
To each their own!
Dark Souls has no fucking story lmao. They write random item descriptions per zone and call it Lore. They even say that they just randomly shoehorn lore into items to make it sound good. It has Lore, not a "Story"
@@CurrehMoFo oh lol that’s funny, I haven’t had a chance to play DS yet.
All Souls likes are janky? Yet all Soulsborne games are janky.
I was so skeptical about Lies of P, their first game? A studio nobody heard of? And even though the same could be said about LoTF, I was baffled about the outcome, I think I got up to Romeo and I was like “this shi is gas.” So I finished it and even though there were bumps the game was the closest experience I’ve had to a fromsoftware title. My opinions flipped about LoP and LoTF and I’m not complaining, it had me on this addiction that only games like sekiro, bb and elden ring could give me. I can say with all honesty LoP is better than ds and ds2. I can’t wait to see what else they have up their sleeve
Technically not their first game unless they just published it, Neow published or made a South Korean mmo style game, which kinda makes it more impressive considering they're doing an entirely different game from what they're experienced with