plugs are great. Years ago I soldered up a plug onto my crossfire micro receiver. Makes repairs easier being able to detach components and I never had an issue with it
My names Adam and I’m going to tell you something.. Nazgûl evoque F5 I’ve crashed it at around 25mph into a brick wall by accident & ZERO damage. I crashed it into the dirt & it kartwheeled about 30 meters & zero damage. I’ve owned it 2 years with sooo many crashes & it’s not damaged at all. All these new frames are just a want & not a need. BUT yes I have different quads like everyone but the Nazgûl is an EXTREMELY tough frame
NICE video! Speaking of ELRS, two of my quads have ELRS receiver and I love them!! I just picked up a BetaFPV Pavo30 that came with a FRsky FCC XM+ receiver and what a disappointment this receiver is feature wise compared the the ELRS receivers. No teli on the FRsky 😮💨I'll probably and up pulling the FRsky receiver out and putting a ELRS receiver in.
I bought the blade rush f7 because I wanted the plugs, its soooo easy to work on. Now that you offer this with plugs, I'll defineltly give it a whirl on my next build. If you think about it, solder points create brittle wires. No real aircraft or cars use soldering for connections, they all use crimped plugs. Thats because they have the ability to flex. Good choice mang!
Your so wrong mate. Normal aircraft ain’t designed to smash into stuff and still be able to fly away. Good luck with plugs I’ve had far to many come dislodged in a crash and nearly lost drones because of it. Solder is way safer it don’t come unplugged.
@@steviefpv You're entitled to your opinion and whatever works for you, great. For me, 11 years of building and flying, plus industry standards are what I go by. Not to mention it's much easier to deal with plugs when working on things.
@@AdrianoCasemiro yes but remember it gotta come from lumenier the Qavs frame maker unless it’s something that is available at the time it wouldn’t make sense to promote in this video. I love Qavs jb frame have two quads on it but I had to use a different frame for my 03 build. I’m waiting on lumenier to have frames that fit the O3 unit.
Jashua, Thanks for all you do much appreciated. Love hearing the motors it helps with the visualization. I think that SBANG phased help your flying. Your moves were just on point, locked in, smooth. Wonderful to watch. 😶🙃🙂
You may be able to 3d print a little protection for the camera wire and capacitor for your frame Plus I can relate to being out of breath after risking more than I should have on a good pack and gettin that heart rate up. That hits home.
i can imagine some weird company making a motor with a hollow stator just to look like it has more volume for less weight. motors are plenty powerful, and plenty light, durability matters more.
I’ve been flying FPV since 2015 and I just built the QAV-S JB edition with the xing motors. It hauls! The last 5” I built before this was a blackout 😂.
I realy love your content.❤But need to say that gopro mount is no good. you need to protect the side frome the lens!! and thicker arms would be nice... they break much faster than apex for exaple....
Watching your flight footage. Man you've come a long ways from the days when you had that one cool trick you would do at the end of your fence. Legit impressive now! :)
Hi Josh I too have a QAV-S frame. I thought used the Diatone 2306.5 1700kv. I used a Diatone F722 mk4 flight stack with Diatone 1,000mw vtx. And a Caddx Ratel starlight. I still have crossfire but have been thinking about switching to ELRS. Yes we want to see it fly. It sounds great, Thanks for the video on your updates on your QAV-S.
missed the important stuff to me, (1) esc setup like motor timings, etc, (2) betaflight tune, (3) receiver parameters like any deadbands, delays in bf4.3, (4) what beta flight version you use, (5) props, things like this I would like to see , thanks
I seem to remember you did a video recently don't know anything of what it was about but do remember that u used an 4in1 esc because it was a good reasonable prince. I think I got the same which what I thought based on the brand u said or I recognized. Anyway it is a HAKRC 45A w/blheli16 which u then proceeded to put on the bluejay to get the bi-dir firmware. Well I got the above esc and can't even load it in blheli16 to get esc fw type, all buttons are dimmed at bottom and no 4in1 multiple indication, just is not reading anything, it is an unknown esc so I can't even tell bluejay what to flash, help! Everything is ok and cked out motors setup and running properly.
I'd just do a cool 3d print for the bottom to cover the compositor but I only run fettec or kiss stuff. I do love the esc bored though hpw the motor contacts are to the corners that's awesome
Clean build and nice rip! Only critique would be if your wanting to show off how good something flys, wouldn’t you want stabilization turned off? Do you prefer the vista over the 03 or was this video just made before the 03?
If I’m adding this up right, that’s about $500 for everything except the battery and GoPro+mount? If you think about it, that’s a pretty good value proposition compared to the high end BNFs and the DJI FPV/Avata/Mini Pro 3/Air 2, which I would consider competition to your build considering you’ve gone basically solderless and the level of performance that your build offers is so freakin’ high.
I flew 3 of your frames as my only rig for 3 months straight, they fly possibly the best of any but I broke so many arm and corner tabs on the back plate off. But I go hard on concrete and steel. You should make a bando edition or something.
Awesome flying!! Can tell you have gotten way better in a short amount of time!! This video just reminded me to get better! Do you recommend the happymodel ELRS combo for people with TX16s’s or to just wait for the radiomaster ranger?
Well... I guess we're staying with the O2 system? 😬 Really interesting, Joshua! And I do like plugs, they've never let me down. Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Like how you explained why you kept the frame, reasoning behind motor choices, why you updated the FC, why you changed the esc and why you are using the elrs but nothing on why you are using DJI vista and just skipped past any reasoning why this choice. Would of thought "other" competitors would have been in your perfect build or is it that other vtx companies don't get a mention as none of them are worthy of old DJI technology by comparison? Good fling about though
I don't really understand what you mean by, "none of them are worthy of old DJI technology". Are you asking why I haven't switched from DJI to one of the other options for my personal build? To me, DJI offers great range and penetration, excellent image quality, fantastic durability of hardware, and size and weight that work well for my build. Walksnail comes close in terms of image quality, range, and penetration, but not quite as good. Walksnail hardware is also less rugged than DJI. HDZero is better in terms of latency, but much worse in terms of range and penetration, and I value range and penetration more. Also, I still have like six unopened Vistas so I might as well use them :-)
@@JoshuaBardwell Thnx JB 👍, so DJI all the way and feasibly the new 03 unit for an even more perfect build. And yes, I remember the video and took your advice also re: vistas so bought 18 of them 🙃
Could we get a video on the best electronics durability wise and price difference! What’s the best bang for your buck or made the best idk just an idea if you see this comment
“Blind testing” 🤔 ….Great stuff JB, I’m a big fan of engineering that offers information based results. 😊 Nice little rip too. (You got out of breath walking around your garden, hope you’re okay🥺)
Josh - any merit for the 25mm motors performing better than 2207’s or 2306’s with a payload or carrying more weight if a five inch freestyle where to be used in such a manner for “professional” use?
The theory here is that the heavier quad will load the prop more, making it less responsive, and demanding more torque from the motor. But bench tests already load the prop pretty heavily, because the thrust stand isn't moving through the air, so the prop cannot unload like it does in flight. Generally we see motors being more responsive and drawing less current in real life compared to the bench. So if the bench test concludes that a 2207 motor has enough thrust for a 5" prop, I think that result is likely to hold up in real life. If you've got a heavier quad and want better flight characteristics, the best advice is to use larger props. Then a larger motor might also make sense.
@JB :) great video as always! You rock 🎸 question for you as I have not currently built a FPV from scratch and want to - will you be updating this for the O3? I looked and currently it still references the older components online, so was curious if there will be an option coming w/O3? Thx again!
Very nice video. I'd be really interested in the difference in range between an ELRS EP1 (with external antenna) and an EP2 (with internal ceramic antenna) receiver. Will the link quality of the EP2 ever bottleneck the system and be "weaker" than a video signal?
It appears to be 20db. The guy that makes the long range tests on youtube tested it and it appears to be a huge difference. The EP2 was doing less than 5km and the EP1 was doing 30+km. But if you're not doing long range, it probably won't matter to you
The biggest reason is this was recorded before the O3 release. But still, I'm not going to be switching 100% to the O3 for a little while, if only because of the money.
Hey Joshua, what are the connectors on your FC called exactly? They are the standard connectors, like TBS uses, right? I can't seem to find the exact name to look up spares...
Just wanted to take a moment and say how lucky are we to have you Joshua!
You rock!!
I'm totally in agreement with you on your comment. The content he has created over the years has been extremely valuable.
This 👆
At 7:56 - JB! Did you forget about the Ranger Module already? Double that power! :D (That's a joke, btw.)
plugs are great. Years ago I soldered up a plug onto my crossfire micro receiver. Makes repairs easier being able to detach components and I never had an issue with it
My names Adam and I’m going to tell you something.. Nazgûl evoque F5 I’ve crashed it at around 25mph into a brick wall by accident & ZERO damage.
I crashed it into the dirt & it kartwheeled about 30 meters & zero damage.
I’ve owned it 2 years with sooo many crashes & it’s not damaged at all.
All these new frames are just a want & not a need.
BUT yes I have different quads like everyone but the Nazgûl is an EXTREMELY tough frame
NICE video! Speaking of ELRS, two of my quads have ELRS receiver and I love them!! I just picked up a BetaFPV Pavo30 that came with a FRsky FCC XM+ receiver and what a disappointment this receiver is feature wise compared the the ELRS receivers. No teli on the FRsky 😮💨I'll probably and up pulling the FRsky receiver out and putting a ELRS receiver in.
Just bought my jbf7 stack. Its on the way,,,yyeesss!!!!!!!
I bought the blade rush f7 because I wanted the plugs, its soooo easy to work on. Now that you offer this with plugs, I'll defineltly give it a whirl on my next build. If you think about it, solder points create brittle wires. No real aircraft or cars use soldering for connections, they all use crimped plugs. Thats because they have the ability to flex. Good choice mang!
Or the speedybee f7 srack with plugs
Your so wrong mate. Normal aircraft ain’t designed to smash into stuff and still be able to fly away. Good luck with plugs I’ve had far to many come dislodged in a crash and nearly lost drones because of it. Solder is way safer it don’t come unplugged.
@@steviefpv
Yah the Plugs also get rip off the board as well.
They may be easy to connect an looks clean. I wouldn't use all plugs on a 5inch setup.
@@steviefpv You're entitled to your opinion and whatever works for you, great. For me, 11 years of building and flying, plus industry standards are what I go by. Not to mention it's much easier to deal with plugs when working on things.
03 Air Unit FTW
No O3 on this one? Nice build, I'm currently running similar motors and esc on my latest. The flying is fantastic!
I think this was filmed before the o3 was released
He doesn’t have enough Patreon’s yet.
I think it's because the Qavs JB edition doesn't fit the 03 camera.
@@ninmarioscc I think a bit of 3d printing fiddling would remedy that mount. Nice content...
@@AdrianoCasemiro yes but remember it gotta come from lumenier the Qavs frame maker unless it’s something that is available at the time it wouldn’t make sense to promote in this video. I love Qavs jb frame have two quads on it but I had to use a different frame for my 03 build. I’m waiting on lumenier to have frames that fit the O3 unit.
Jashua, Thanks for all you do much appreciated. Love hearing the motors it helps with the visualization. I think that SBANG phased help your flying. Your moves were just on point, locked in, smooth. Wonderful to watch. 😶🙃🙂
You may be able to 3d print a little protection for the camera wire and capacitor for your frame
Plus I can relate to being out of breath after risking more than I should have on a good pack and gettin that heart rate up. That hits home.
I have a QAV-S mini that i absolutely loving flying around.
It has a great sounding tune on it. Might just have to update mine as well.
This is basically stock BF 4.3. I haven't even tuned it yet.
Wow. It has a really clean sound.
@@michaaelball247 i was thinking the same thing, “How is this the first pack if he’s already tuned it?” Amazing.
Really enjoyed your flying here. Nice!
Glad to see no O3 System, it truly makes you sooo likeable! Nice build!
5:50 just an idea, you can add landing pads to add extra protection at the bottom of the quad.
Weight to Volume is probably the metric we should be chasing for motors.
i can imagine some weird company making a motor with a hollow stator just to look like it has more volume for less weight.
motors are plenty powerful, and plenty light, durability matters more.
It’s called power to weight.
I’ve been flying FPV since 2015 and I just built the QAV-S JB edition with the xing motors. It hauls! The last 5” I built before this was a blackout 😂.
I realy love your content.❤But need to say that gopro mount is no good. you need to protect the side frome the lens!! and thicker arms would be nice... they break much faster than apex for exaple....
I mostly like the price of ELRS. The availability is great too.
Looks like I'm gonna try to copy this build next
You can tell right off the bat from the video that this build really flys smooth and nice.
Watching your flight footage. Man you've come a long ways from the days when you had that one cool trick you would do at the end of your fence. Legit impressive now! :)
Awesome JB! I can't wait to see the blind motor test you and CiottiFPV did! And those new Bob motors look SICK!
Hi Josh I too have a QAV-S frame. I thought used the Diatone 2306.5 1700kv. I used a Diatone F722 mk4 flight stack with Diatone 1,000mw vtx. And a Caddx Ratel starlight. I still have crossfire but have been thinking about switching to ELRS. Yes we want to see it fly. It sounds great, Thanks for the video on your updates on your QAV-S.
Not sure if its you or the drone but the flying was balls!
You become a really good flyer was,t looking at least one year, but hats off!
One crazy freestyle. that battery pack was insane !
I’d like to buy the JB digital kit but I’d rather have the updated items mentioned included
man I hate Iflight electronics but I gotta say that those esc pads are genius
Great as always, looking forward to the blind testing and comparison videos!
Enjoyed the video, keep on flying! I moved on to camera drones, but still like watching your stuff. And yes, today I learned something!
missed the important stuff to me, (1) esc setup like motor timings, etc, (2) betaflight tune, (3) receiver parameters like any deadbands, delays in bf4.3, (4) what beta flight version you use, (5) props, things like this I would like to see , thanks
Rates, what camera lol , keep going?
Love ur content. You rock, Bardwell
Try 5.2 in props on it my go to has been this frame with the fpv cycle motors and 5.2 in props I still love it
i'm suprised you didn't put the 03 air unit on thier to save on weight
I seem to remember you did a video recently don't know anything of what it was about but do remember that u used an 4in1 esc because it was a good reasonable prince. I think I got the same which what I thought based on the brand u said or I recognized. Anyway it is a HAKRC 45A w/blheli16 which u then proceeded to put on the bluejay to get the bi-dir firmware. Well I got the above esc and can't even load it in blheli16 to get esc fw type, all buttons are dimmed at bottom and no 4in1 multiple indication, just is not reading anything, it is an unknown esc so I can't even tell bluejay what to flash, help! Everything is ok and cked out motors setup and running properly.
Nevermind, BLheli can't read this 4in1 but Bluejay can. Flashed Bluejay done, RPM filer on and working. Sorry to bug you.
There has to be a better way to position that video cable. That won't last long.
Always great to see you fly and your builds
Yes please do a blind test of the fpvcycle motors
Thanks for the fun fly video. ;)
I wanna try those motor from fpv cycle. Thanks JB 🤘🏻
I'd just do a cool 3d print for the bottom to cover the compositor but I only run fettec or kiss stuff. I do love the esc bored though hpw the motor contacts are to the corners that's awesome
Clean build and nice rip! Only critique would be if your wanting to show off how good something flys, wouldn’t you want stabilization turned off?
Do you prefer the vista over the 03 or was this video just made before the 03?
If I’m adding this up right, that’s about $500 for everything except the battery and GoPro+mount? If you think about it, that’s a pretty good value proposition compared to the high end BNFs and the DJI FPV/Avata/Mini Pro 3/Air 2, which I would consider competition to your build considering you’ve gone basically solderless and the level of performance that your build offers is so freakin’ high.
The sound of those motors man...
Thanks for everything you do JB. Happy Holidays Brother 👊🏻
i like this video,,very expresive in the end of the video,,but also full of information
can you do more build videos, i love them and im sure lots of other people do aswell. Thanks!
I'm so excited for my first 5 in build. Got most the parts on the way!
They are awesome
yep ) sensor lost - even with TBS happened. and also - one meter distance
I flew 3 of your frames as my only rig for 3 months straight, they fly possibly the best of any but I broke so many arm and corner tabs on the back plate off. But I go hard on concrete and steel. You should make a bando edition or something.
Super nice flying! Love you content! Keep it up!
Another Joshua Bardwell DIY kit coming up? V3??? Sweet!
Awesome flying!! Can tell you have gotten way better in a short amount of time!! This video just reminded me to get better!
Do you recommend the happymodel ELRS combo for people with TX16s’s or to just wait for the radiomaster ranger?
Nice flying JB! I see your SBANG challenge has influenced your style, even saw a little rewind in there! 🔥👍
I see a good decision to go with the plugs and using elrs.
You can definitely notice some sbangy features…🔥
Nice flight 🎉
I really enjoyed your flight, great video
Ever hit those electric lines? Nice video!
I'm researching for an 8s build. That could be another build video you could do.
Well... I guess we're staying with the O2 system? 😬
Really interesting, Joshua! And I do like plugs, they've never let me down.
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Please review BETAFPV Cetus Pro!!!
Fantastic vid, JB!
Love the commitment at the end 🤣
How do you handle the cold climate with your batteries when out in the field?
Bahahaha! Shouldn't have opened your big mouth there at the end 🤣
that’s a cool dog tshirt u got
Like how you explained why you kept the frame, reasoning behind motor choices, why you updated the FC, why you changed the esc and why you are using the elrs but nothing on why you are using DJI vista and just skipped past any reasoning why this choice.
Would of thought "other" competitors would have been in your perfect build or is it that other vtx companies don't get a mention as none of them are worthy of old DJI technology by comparison?
Good fling about though
I don't really understand what you mean by, "none of them are worthy of old DJI technology". Are you asking why I haven't switched from DJI to one of the other options for my personal build?
To me, DJI offers great range and penetration, excellent image quality, fantastic durability of hardware, and size and weight that work well for my build. Walksnail comes close in terms of image quality, range, and penetration, but not quite as good. Walksnail hardware is also less rugged than DJI. HDZero is better in terms of latency, but much worse in terms of range and penetration, and I value range and penetration more.
Also, I still have like six unopened Vistas so I might as well use them :-)
@@JoshuaBardwell Thnx JB 👍, so DJI all the way and feasibly the new 03 unit for an even more perfect build.
And yes, I remember the video and took your advice also re: vistas so bought 18 of them 🙃
Missed the stream tonight!!
Ive been waiting for this video for so long!!!!
Joshua, but you show 3 diferent motors , and only fly one motor set, what about the other 2 motor sets ??
Nice build! Thanks to your innumerable videos and Liftoff, that hole in the fence is an iconic historical FPV landmark. It can never be repaired.
Nice flight!
Could we get a video on the best electronics durability wise and price difference! What’s the best bang for your buck or made the best idk just an idea if you see this comment
Would be a cool video to point people in the right direction so there not buying cheap electronics that are gonna catch fire first crash
That's the purpose of my website www.fpvknowitall.com
Great show! #stayepic
The video end is foreshadowing a video about the telemetry ELRS 3.0 bug lol
Is there a bug with telemetry in 3.0?
What motors r on the quad in the freestyle
looks effin great!
And yes i used the link
“Blind testing” 🤔 ….Great stuff JB, I’m a big fan of engineering that offers information based results. 😊 Nice little rip too. (You got out of breath walking around your garden, hope you’re okay🥺)
Hi Joshua, are you going to test betaflight 4.4 return to home and landing?
Dang I got a kit under my christmas tree, and your telling me its out of date... Ouch, well looks like the one my wife ordered is the V2, so...
You're thinking of the DIY kit not my "perfect freestyle build". The DIY kit hasn't changed.
Sounds good! BUT! What motors were that!!?!?!?!?!
Who thinks they were xings?
Who thinks they were fpycycle?
Xing.
If you bend a stand off to bad in a crash it will smash into that esc. Bit too close for my liking lol
Josh - any merit for the 25mm motors performing better than 2207’s or 2306’s with a payload or carrying more weight if a five inch freestyle where to be used in such a manner for “professional” use?
The theory here is that the heavier quad will load the prop more, making it less responsive, and demanding more torque from the motor. But bench tests already load the prop pretty heavily, because the thrust stand isn't moving through the air, so the prop cannot unload like it does in flight. Generally we see motors being more responsive and drawing less current in real life compared to the bench. So if the bench test concludes that a 2207 motor has enough thrust for a 5" prop, I think that result is likely to hold up in real life. If you've got a heavier quad and want better flight characteristics, the best advice is to use larger props. Then a larger motor might also make sense.
Brilliant
Why didn’t you use the O3 Airunit?
Why didn’t you use the new o3 air unit?
Why don't you use the o3 air unit?
0:05:05 If you turn the iFlight ESC upside down so the cap is pointing up does the FC still fit? That would make a better way to fit it.
@JB :) great video as always! You rock 🎸 question for you as I have not currently built a FPV from scratch and want to - will you be updating this for the O3? I looked and currently it still references the older components online, so was curious if there will be an option coming w/O3? Thx again!
We are updating the frame for the O3 then I'll update.
@@JoshuaBardwell then I'll buy and "I'm going to learn something!" :)
Nice little rip. I think lift off need to update your map in the game!
Very nice video. I'd be really interested in the difference in range between an ELRS EP1 (with external antenna) and an EP2 (with internal ceramic antenna) receiver. Will the link quality of the EP2 ever bottleneck the system and be "weaker" than a video signal?
The short answer is if you're using 150 Hz or lower, and especially if tour controller goes to 1w, the ceramic antenna is probably ok.
It appears to be 20db. The guy that makes the long range tests on youtube tested it and it appears to be a huge difference. The EP2 was doing less than 5km and the EP1 was doing 30+km. But if you're not doing long range, it probably won't matter to you
Interesting…glaring question why no 03??
The biggest reason is this was recorded before the O3 release. But still, I'm not going to be switching 100% to the O3 for a little while, if only because of the money.
Freaking sweet!
What happened to the red tape on the arms? 🥲
Hey Joshua, what are the connectors on your FC called exactly? They are the standard connectors, like TBS uses, right? I can't seem to find the exact name to look up spares...
Jst sh 1.0mm pitch
@@JoshuaBardwell Amazing! You're the man! Thanks :-)))
Hi, are those type of cpacitor, low esr?