Profitec Drive (Pro 700 successor): unboxing and first test
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- Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2023
- Hey guys! So finally after so many years of looking at the high end espresso machines, I decided to pull the trigger and get one. The decision between Bianca and Profitec was not an easy one but after seeing them live, it was a no-brainer for me :D
Initially wanted to get the Pro 700 but then realised there is Profitec Drive coming out and decided to grab it :D
Thanks to the Taste It Vienna, I managed to reserve one and pick it up this weekend! Still learning all about it and there is a lot more I need to figure out, but so far, AWESOME machine! :)
I hope you enjoy it, I know it is a bit of a longer one this time... :D
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Congrats man, it's great to see someone genuinely excited and appreciative. Enjoy!
Thank you! 😊
Congrats on the new machine! So little info about this. Definitely the best dual boiler e61 on the market now🎉
I also had a lot of trouble getting any more info on it and I am super happy with it. It looks modern and fresh. So far, works like a charm.
Wow! What a beast of a machine. Must be a dream come true. Congrats!!
Thank you! It's been a long road but I am thrilled! 🥰
Looks amazing! Congrats! 🎉👏
Great video, your excitement was contagious. Having already read the manual paid off as you knew the controls.
When you were making your demonstration espresso shot I'd have liked to have seen the pressure reading for the group head, as that is a feature that distinguishes this model from most others and the original 700.
I'm doing my research for my first espresso machine and this one tops my shortlist currently. As I've gone along, looking at videos and reviews of machines, the more and more I'm homing in on ECM or Profitec, basically for quality & reliability. I'll be super interested in your future videos with the Profitec 700.
Don't have too many shots before breakfast 😃
Hello! Thank you! I really like it! I wake up earlier just to grab my breakfast so I can have my morning cup! I am planning to make a few more vids showing the menu structure and my opinion. It was a super busy end of the year so I wasn't able to do so so far. 😊😊😊
You have a great coffee bar. Congrats on the 700! It’s an amazing machine
Thnx man! Took a while to build it but I'm super happy with it :)
Excellent setup. Congrats!
Thank you! :)
Great video! Thanks for sharing.
Thnx man :)
Thanks for all your responses. Pressure and flow profiling are the features that everyone seems to want nowadays but how important are they truly. Is it possible to get really good results without them or are profiling machines always going. to allow better results than machines that lack them - all else being equal?
I understand your point. This is something I am currently testing. So far, I managed to get a good result without using the flow profiling. Now, I will apply variations using the flow paddle since I have the "setup for regular extraction". This will allow me to test the influence on the flavor. Will make soon a video about the settings for the machine and then the one experimenting with the flow control.
@@techtravelpandathank you! Very much looking forward to your findings.
A pleasure to see you so happy, man! Got the same grinder tho)
Thank you! :) How is your experience with the grinder? Did you have any trouble with it? I had pretty much a bad experience with particle distribution until I took out the declumper.
@@techtravelpanda I'v tried it without the declumper, but find, that WITH it installed, it actually cause less particles come everywere from the grinder spout)) So i put it back. It's my first grinder, so I can't compare it to anything, but it works pretty well wit my Sanremo Cube R, plus it grinds so fast! Very nice grinder, especially for the money! :)
Yes! I like it too! :)
The particles flying around the grinder can be stopped by wetting the beans a bit with a small spray, or just wet your finger and mix the beans a bit and then shake the dosing cup. It will reduce the static by a lot and help you get nice fluffy beans :) This was the same for me when I took the declumper out. Once I started spraying the beans, problem gone :D
@@Kapusta88
Good video. Just ordered a Pro600, can’t wait to get it!
Great! I think you'll love it! :)
Congratulations! What a machine!!
Thank you! It's pretty much an amazing device. At least so far :)
@@techtravelpanda please keep us updated! I’m considering upgrading from my Quick Mill to either this machine or the Synchronika
@@ozpain1 will do! It's basically the same machine just some differences on the outside. Plus you get the whole package and the flow control at once. :)
I find the machine super interesting. Can you say whether there is an offset/difference between the temperature displayed on the PID control and the effective brewing temperature? In other words, can it be the case that I get 94 degrees Celsius displayed on the PID ex works, for example, but actually only brew at 91 degrees Celsius, for example?
Thank you for sharing your detailed review. Is the build quality improved in this version 2? Other reviews say Pro 700 has some sharp edges and warping?
The shell is nicely built and I, personally, do not see warping. The machine feels like a tank. Sharp edges you can find on the tray meshes from the underside. But they are not something big or worrisome. And also, those "sharp" edges are very mild.
Thank you for the video sir! How do you like the steam pressure? Is it still at 2 bar of steam pressure as older Pro 700 and Synchronika? I’m in US and considering Synchronika but really like the feature of programable ON/OFF on Dream and it’s basically same internals and built quality as Synchronika. Thank you!
I didn't play that much with the steam pressure since I am really into espresso shots only. But I will give it a few runs and make a video on that too. From what I tested so far, steams like crazy. Nice dry and powerful steam. It comes with a two hole steam tip by default.
Beautiful machine. What did she cost? By the way, best practice is to give the brew head a quick purge before you pull your shot. This gets rid of the water that’s been sat in the brew head while the machine has been in idle. Meaning better brew temp control. Great video. 😊
Hello! Thank you for this input! Will keep it in mind! :) It was 2699€ in the Taste It shop in Vienna. I am from Croatia and this was the closest sales point that had it. :)
Received this machine last Thursday. I noticed it heats up extracting fast, wanted to confirm if you experience same? It reaches 93 c in something like 8 minutes, maybe less, with fast heat up turned off and no need to flush, but also steam boiler is off. Is that correct or is the reading not right?
It might come up to the temp of the internal boiler fast but your group head is not gona be at that temp. That is why fast heat up pushes interna boiler to 143 celzius and when you flush it heats up the group head so everything is at proper temperature. :)
Congrats! It’s so little info on this espresso machine, so thank you for sharing! Are you planning to make a video showing the features of the new PID system? Maybe highlighting the differences between the old 700 and the Drive? And just curious, did you get to see the new Synchronika with the same PID?
Hey hey! Thank you! Yes, I was also pretty much confused why nobody talks about it and there is almost no info on it. Especially since it's a clear successor to the Pro700 family. Regarding the PID vid, I will make it very soon. I will go through the whole menu and show you all of the options 😊
Regarding Synchronika, I wasn't able to see the newest one but I will be in Heidelberg by the end of this week and maybe I see one there since they are manufactured very close to Heidelberg. 😊😊😊
If I spot one, I'll try to film at least a bit of it. 😊
EDit: under one of the comment replies on my Short video showing the early morning espresso shot pulling, there is a mention of the ECM guys saying that the new Synchronika with the updatem PID is due for March 2024.
yes, many years of maintenance. enjoy!
Wow, what a setup!!! I have the same grinder, but your espresso machine looks so much nicer than my Silvia. 👍 Have you thought about using a blind shaker, rather than the needle distributor?
Hey hey! Thank you for your kind comments! I started using the blind shaker. It works great! I am planning to upgrade my grinder soon.
@@techtravelpanda What's the next step up from the Eureka?
@@FatNorthernBigot oh no no, I got Eureka Oro Single Dose and it was complete disaster, next step is Mazzer Philos. :)
@@techtravelpanda I had to Google the Mazzer. That's a big budget grinder! I guess it would be more in line with the Profitec 😉Please let me know how you get on. I wasn't impressed with the Eureka at first, but it just required a little bedding-in or "seasoning". If you don't mind my asking, what was wrong with yours?
@@FatNorthernBigot particle distribution is all over the place. Too many fines, it is a complete chaos. Burrs need realignment once I manage to grab time to do it. And I hope it gets the job done.
Beautiful machine! Enjoy the process of perfecting your shots :) Just a small tip, once you lock the Portafilter into the machine, be quick with pulling the shot. The Grouphead is pretty hot and the longer you keep the dry grounds there, the higher the chance you might alter the taste.
Thank you! And thank you for the advice! Will look into it!:)
One of the most stylish machines in a very popular and competitive group.
It really does look stunning in person. Big, heavy and super shiny! Plus the orange on the group pressure gauge is just the perfect amount of "fresh" to give it that little something. :)
I have the Pro 700 v2 some some nice upgrade features. Incredibly, Profitec has not provided a bottomless portafilter. Who uses a single?
Nice! Congrats on your purchase :)
They don't include one in the package but I got one as a gift from the Taste It guys in Vienna. I also tried the single shot basket and it is ok when you need a quick shot 😀
thanks for making the review. I see the water pitcher you have on the counter, What water filter do you use?
Brita. They are good for removing scale. :)
@@techtravelpanda Speedy response :) Which model of the Barista? They have so many options. Thanks!
I have the same machine. Wanted to know if you considered ECM Syn over this.
I did! But the internal components are the same and with the steam and hot water switches it has all I need. Plus, they come from the same company. So I put the price difference in my savings account to invest towards a new coffee grinder. 😁
I pulled the trigger today on this machine, and arriving tomorrow. I downloaded the manual like you did, and it says to fill the tank 3 times before brewing the first coffee. Did you do that? Seems excessive.
Hey! I asked the guys at the shop to do the first fill and test if everything is working nicely. So I considered that a first fill. Then I just did two more when I got home with it. I know it might seem like much but I think it is ok to give it a proper rinse before using it. :)
And congratulations on your purchase! It is a beautiful machine! I am sure you won't regret it! :)))
@@techtravelpandaIt just arrived. Beautiful. Thanks.
Did you consider the ECM Syncronika? Just wondering the differences.
Hi! Yes! I actually wanted to get it from the start! But then I talked to some guys and realised that it is the same internals since it is a sister company. What I like is that the Drive has flow profiling integrated from the start and the new OLED command center. Feels more up to date and fresh. So far, works pretty nice and I will soon post some more videos on the device itself! :)
Thanks. It was the lever steam and water valves that drew me to the ECM but I really like the Pro 700. I hope to see a few videos from you soon on it.
Great presentation, The steamer is cool touch?
Yes!
So if you use Brita filter you are good to use other water than filter one?
I use Brita filter for the water I put in the machine and it works good
@@techtravelpanda just theoretically would it be safe to use tap water with Brita filter?
@@pawelgedyk1762 test your tap water first. You should be ok but you would probably need to change it regularly and descale the machine
How are the coffee pucks after extraction? Soggy? Or dry?
Depends on the way I dial in my coffee. Now that I finally have some nice results, it's nice and dry. :)
@@techtravelpanda I watch your video and made an order for the drive... It's pre order here in Malaysia. Thanks mate.
@@TheElektrikChair happy to hear that! I think you will love it! I sure do! And it is built like a tank!
About the flow control... This video by The Wired Gourmet may be of interest to you.
He bought a Profitec 600 (like the 700 but with a vibratory pump and steam boiler of 1L instead of 2L). Later he installed the flow control kit supplied by Profitec. In this video he explains why he removed it. He did keep the pressure gauge for the group head.
www.youtube .com/watch?v=B6cZ8LUraOI
From this video (and others) I don't think the flow control function has any real benefit and may just prove frustrating. It doesn't matter that it's there, of course, and you have the grouphead pressure gauge. I'll be interested to see if you end up using the flow control or just ignoring it later on...
Hey man, thanks for the review! Great look over the whole machine. Very personable video.
I was looking to sell my pro 500 and get a bianca, but now you're making me second guess myself. Thanks to you I might have to spend even more money 🥲.
I had the same problem but I am not regretting my choice now! It's a beast! 😁😁😁
@@techtravelpanda 😂. It seems like it. I'll have to do more research. There seems to be quite a few new machines coming in the newyear. I'll see what profitec and ECM has in store 😬