Anti-Blackness in Indian Communities
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2019
- I teamed up with Shereene from the Upside Down Smilie Show ( / lilsher8 ) to talk about Anti-Blackness in Indian Communities.
note: I want to clarify that civil rights act happened in 1964, one year ( not ten years like I said in the video) before widespread Indian immigration to the United States began. However, the civil rights movement was in place for over twenty years by the time Indians began immigrating in large waves, so the idea that we were more welcomed in this country as people of color due to civil rights being in place still stands. Just wanted to correct that one error. 😊
I live in a mixed upscale neighborhood in central New Jersey. One day while out doing yard work an Indian lady whose family had moved into the neighborhood about 2 weeks prior came up to me. She said "How much" not knowing what she was talking about I said for what! She responded with the cost of mowing, she assumed I was the grounds keeper/lawn service worker. I told her I was the owner of this property and lived there. She responded with "You live here" as if I could not be the owner of such property. I was taken back by her response but, I let it go for I was living there 17 years before she and her family moved in. This happened 6 years ago and to this day they will not speak when they pass me as they walk around the neighborhood. I really do not care if they do speak or not but, it was okay for her to speak when she thought I was the lawn service worker.
Should have checked her
@@pilot8220
Black people check all non-Black people when they spew racism by;
1. Consciously practicing a economic boycott 24/7 365 of all non-Black owned businesses as much as feasibly possible!
2. Sacrificing spending - whether for lunch at work or on other unnecessary products and/or services!
3. Creating and funding our own private independent schools that will teach our children vocational skills such as carpentry, plumbing, roofing, etc. as well as teach subjects such as advanced math, advanced physics, advanced computer science, etc.!
4. Purchasing Dr. Claud Anderson's books - "PowerNomics" and "Black Labor, White Wealth" and reading at least twice!
5. Put the concepts that were gleaned from reading Dr. Claud Anderson's books into practice!
6. Open a checking and/or savings account at a Black-owned bank!
7. Patronize Black-owned businesses and circulate our money within our own communities at least 10 times!
That is so sad, immigrants coming to America and try to be racist. Then they criticize blacks, please, make some sense of that.
Don’t forget anti women and rape culture.
I have noticed that this demographic generally speaking will never do such work outside theirvery own property and speaking to a group of other people across a spectrum of people realised that it is a caste based prejudice that is linked to this type of work. It is really not acceptable .
I'm a person of color. African Americans opened the doors for people of color around the world through Civil Rights Movement. Many African American died over the years to bring about change we see today!
The Flower 🌹
Well said my brotha
@Jayden Johnson Be for real.
Fact well said
@Jayden Johnson you sound uneducated af
@Jayden Johnson That's a lie I couldn't even sell to a 8 year old. We benefited tremendously from it, despite imposed Jim Crow laws, and the modern Jim Crow laws that is unbelievable getting passed today. Did it make the playing field or quality of life equal based on Constitutional governance, hell no, but it did make some things better. Even tho its still a huge indifference or gap to where all men are treated equal on all capacities, which majority will not understand unless you are, or walk closely with someone black in this country, we cannot, and not wise to discount the gains we achieved at large so far.
Don't be surprised folk. Mahatma ghandi was notoriously racist. The irony is while indians were dealing with oppression from the British empire, they have the audacity to be racist against others. Ghandi himself who was respected in their society as a civil rights advocate, was very vocal about his racist views of blacks. Sad! Another irony is I have seen people from India darker than me, so it is deeper than just color.
Problem is that most southern India has deep African roots.
Ghandi evolved. Have you?
@@kharlosdamonpanterra8162 There is no evidence from documentation and history that he evolved from his racist beliefs. The issue is not whether I have evolved but what is the depth of Indian racism. I think the answer is in the other well documented behaviors in the other backward parts of Indian society, such as bride burning, gang sexual assault of women, torture, extrajudicial killings, death due to insufficient dowry where the bride is burned. So you see India has no lack of cruel behavior including racism. Yes all nations have its ills, but the ladies presentation was on racism of Indians.
@@CharlesCCurry I studied Ghandi's entire life, and I stand by what I said. I don't argue that your knowledge of Indian culture has some depth to it.
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Continue your study. Make sure the sources of your studies are not biased. Make sure your reading material is not European produced or even Indian produced. A study is only as good as it's sources.
I’m a Guyanese here . Had the blessings of two mothers in my youth - my Indian mother and a black woman who treated me with much love and respect.
Both of your mothers, the real one and adoptive one where of skin color, BLACK aka copper, for we come in all shades except pale.
I’m Guyanese and I will tell you there’s a divide between blacks and indians in that country
If indians were racist there would be no Guyanese
thats always been our(blk ppl) problem we comfort and care for our oppressors
As a Black American, I appreciate this video and its honesty! Keep up the good work.
But they are not talking about what dark Indian people are going through from all races!
What's her Instagram??
I truly agree! Not to say that it had never happened before, but this was the first time that I've publicly seen any South Asian discuss the true history of Black Americans. Well done!
agreed, thank you
@@Eternaldayz Lol. Trying to get some Mississippi Masala action.
I will add to this as a black person. Anti-blackness is in all communities. Slavery of East Africans happened in India and in Arab countries. In Arab countries they literally just call black people Abeed which means slave there was even a candy called Ras al abd” which means “head of a slave.” and now they have the same candy and call it Sambo (another racist term) with a black person on the package. China and Japan also has slurs for black people. In Japan black people are called Karumbo. The half black people growing up in the 80s and 90s in Japan and East Asia caught hell. The thing is sometime immigrants to the U.S. already didn't care for black people but America makes you even more racist. People feel like they have to hate black Americans in order to fit it.
Ever heard of the The term " Pecking order".
It's a Behavior in Chicken Communities where where a social order is established by first identifying whose at the Bottom.
This is also done on more micro Levels where some kids feel like they need to Bully a Lesser popular kid to Fit in and Not be picked on Themselves
The problem with all other race is that they are inferior to Africans, so its a kind of mad jealousy. Whether they like it or not we are proud of our colour and ancestry. Like Mrs Elliot (anti racism activist) said they are living a worthless and useless life by hating and discriminating based on the colour of ones skin. What a pilty; I feel for their ignorance.
No one hates black people more than black people. Self love self respect goes far.
I learned all of the slang of my white friends called all those other groups of people, and it's freaking hilarious🤣🤣🤣! I just let ignorance be ignorant 🤣🤣🤣! I'm cool with everybody until you show me I shouldn't be!
I've been living in the Dallas area for over 11 years, and the prejudice and bigotry I've received from Indians, East Asians and even Mexicans are some of the worst that I have encountered. It doesn't matter how well dressed and articulate that I am, it's as if they have an already built-in method for how to treat black Americans especially. From the evil looks, inconvenienced attitudes and overall indifference even when in their restaurant's and other places of business. As a black man, pattern recognition is something that I'm very receptible to.
While at the very same time, they all seem to kiss the asses of white people. Indians in particular have an ancient relationship with with whyte people that goes back to 3000 BC when the Aryans from the Caucus mountains invaded India and intermixed with the Dravidian inhabitants. So perhaps, it's just in a lot of Indians and other Asians to deify white people and whiteness itself. If I'm not mistaken, the Aryans introduced the Varnas ( Caste) system that most Indians still to this day adhere to.
I've noticed that the closer the proximity to "whyteness", the worse their treatments are towards Blacks.
@Jayden Johnson that's your experience, which is all anecdotal. At least I provided some historical context, you wrote all that and said absolutely nothing really. They are not like us, two different cultures entirely, try again.
They do kiss the asses of white people.
A well delivered outline you have delivered.
It doesn't help buy I have had to put hands on a few Mexicans and India citizens here in America.
I have seen my fellow Bruthas and Sisters explode and pull India citizens working in hotels over the counter and put that beat down on their behinds. Of course the police was called in each case.
Overall I believe that White America has caused these racial tensions among immigrants and the Black population. Furthermore, we Black Americans are allowing these immigrants to leave us behind in education and economics/ business creations.
We as a people need to scorn hip hop music and get back to the things that matter in life. Negative gang driven Hip Hop has ruined majority of Black America.
Dead serious it's like they're trying to outdo white people in racism Olympics.
Actually interesting fact for indians who u speak with-- let them know that the Dahlit Panthers were inspired and formed by the USA Black Panthers, in fighing the caste system in India. Gandhi was one of the main instigators prohibiting the dahlits from owning land, political positions, and other rights. One of the Dahlit Panthers even named their daughter after one of the Black female Panthers. I tell you, many other cultures who are anti-black have no idea of how MUCH Black ppl have paved the way for where they are today. Look it up and pass it on. Funny how ppl are soooo quick to be anti-black but aint got NO smoke for white supremacy. Smh. Great video again.❤
Yes absolutely correct. Honestly it's been very disappointing researching deeper into Gandhi's history and seeing how hateful he was towards black people when his own people were getting treated like crap.
I know he made some changes later in his life but it still doesn't make up for the earlier nonsense, and more people need to know this side of him because it seems like it's largely been left out of History, intentionally.
Truth of the matter is ....the Africans,Asians,and Orientals,and those from the Americas ....have inspired each other over time and milenia but it's not brought to light excuse the pun ...the further back you go !!!
And they always call on black people to help them and their causes 🙄 😒
The dalit panthers did nothing at all. It was a failed experiment nothing more or less
Ghandi was a racist leader, he had no regard for black people.
I'm living here in London, UK. I was born and raised here. I've experienced more anti black racism from members of the Indian community more than from the white English & Irish communities. TBH. I blame the culture and the religion within Indian communities. They discourage thier kids & grandkids from mixing with any 'black' Caribbean/Africam kids. I grew up in the 90s, but I see the same anti black racism from the Indian community now in 2023. Plus there's a lot of white worshipping and excessive use of skin whitening creams by members of the Indian community too. Colorism is a major issue too. The Caste System is still a huge factor as well, dark skin is frowned upon. Having light or pale skin is openly celebrated & encouraged.
wow
They won’t change
You're bang on with your assessment mate. I also live in London, and I mirror your observations.
100% Correct!!!! Largest supplier of our hair products but we will NEVER be employed in their business EVER. Rather have an Eastern European who can’t speak English and has ZERO knowledge on Afro hair or it’s products.
@@johnosasi4710 Look how much money PAK makes from us ☝🏾
Thanks for speaking on this! I did a contract in Cupertino Ca and the population is mostly Asia and Indian and the racism I expericend was mind blowing. I had people snare their nose at me and walk off and I was shocked, hurt and disappointed😢
Lived and grew up in Southern California, and it is a very racist place. Sadly, in S. California even some blacks dislike one another.
Indians are asians.
Thank you. As a black man in America it appears sometimes that others do not seriously consider our path here. You both taking the time to call out racism you see in and outside of your community is welcome. I wish more people could be exposed to you both and your mindset. This is what allies are supposed to do....take care.
Black people have to forget about speaking to any other people. We love ourselves and build for our people then others can pratice their racism but not with us around.
You suck at civilization. You're the only people who haven't made one.
I will say that you have to know your value and realize that most other ethnic groups don't see our beauty through eyes of appreciation, but often through eyes of jealousy and contempt. As a younger man (and in some ways now), I was optimistic about the human capacity to over come this race issue. But some of us are so damaged that barring a miracle from God, we would choose hell over recognizing someone from a different ethnic group as a person. Many of us are stuck in the past. And because of that our future will be separation. God help us all ...
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Thats never going to happen until God put sword in between us-them, destroy, get rid, and put everyone in their place that blacks are chosen of God. It going to be a war and bloodshed , thats the only way. Good bye America and the rest of the world by 2030.
Amen brother but you also gotta be aware of the snakes among us some done fell in love with they master whips and chains and try to break us within like they did the BPParty
Good to hear you speak on this especially the fact that we opened a lot of doors for other "minorities" that look like us. We still have a long way to go.
Colorism is very strong in the Indian culture, and an obsession with light skin even amongst their own people. so the anti blackness sentiment does not surprise me. but I think it's weird at the same time cause 90% percent of Indians are dark or darker than we are I know they still think we are inferior, but the whole colorism is really ignorant.
They look at blacks as dahlits or untouchables, the lowest cast in America. I was told this by an Indian fellow I worked with. The things he would do to blacks behind their backs was just terrible.
90% being dark might be a broad figure there are a lot of dark people but also a good proportion of people are also quite fair amoung the various shades of brown from really pale one to really dark ones the preference generally goes to the lighter ones that is true.
@@polly8844 that has more to do with that particular person I have not heard that many people think like that
@@polly8844 he’s dumb bc the caste system got nothing to do w color
@@ashwinvk4124 thank you.
Thank you for your support 🙏🏾
I have always been intrigued with Indian culture. In the high school I attended there were a decent number of Indian students and I thought they were really interesting people. I sincerely tried to befriend some of these students as a freshman, but very quickly realized they were not interested in befriending a black guy. I actually became friends with an Indian girl who came to my school in my 10th grade year and we really liked each other. I asked her if we could go to a movie together and she very coldly said “I could never date a black boy.” I always thought Indian women where beautiful, intelligent, and intriguing. But I realized for many of them there were to many social barriers for them to see me as anything but “black”. There was no level of sincerity, intelligence, gentleness, or kindness I could convey to show I was a genuine well meaning man. I must admit that was a painful experience. But I have tried not to hold that against all Indian people. I understand that my existence as an American that happens to be the descendent of slaves has “colored” the entire worlds view of what I am. But still I rise...
I was in same situation. I think the good thing about most black people I met is that underneath it all we don't really feel inferior to any of the oppressors. We may be sick and tired of the oppression, but we ain't really in awe or envy of any other race. Like you said, Still I rise.....
That was powerful and so sad at the same time. Thank you for sharing. Thank you for not holding a bias against all Indians.
@@cinduthomas-george4675 Not speaking for the original commenter, but for me, I'm an IT guy, I've run across a heck of a lot of Indians. I've run across a lot of Indians in IT that are hopelessly lost in everything you are talking about, but luckily, I always run across cool people as well.
Luckily, I've had few good Indian friends/associates, and we have great conversations, we all learn a lot from each other, but it just requires two cool people who both have a connection/friendship to do that.
But really pleased with and enjoying your clear perspective on all this. -Namaste
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@@dorothypinkard9899 what does the comment "i" mean ??
As a Black American aka"Foundational Black American", i have to say i admit and appreciate you two speaking about this but many of us have pretty much stop putting on the cape for others groups,stopped caring what happens to others because its been a one sided alliance for far too long
Therè is no such thing ad Fundamental Black American. Only Alkebulan or African.
Maaaaaaaaan get out of here with that Marcus Sanders aka Tariq Nasheed BS.
As a 60-year-old African American male, I say that this video and its views are 💯 correct. Hence, I just pushed the "subscribe" button.
I appreciate that you acknowledged the fact that African Americans have paved the way and made sacrifices for other minority groups to enjoy the benefits in America. I have a significant issue with many immigrants of color who come to America and actually think that they are or were playing on the same level playing field that African Americans were playing on. Before you think about any racial stereotypes that come to mind, please take a minute and remember they paved the way with their blood, sweat, and life so that your ethnic group didn't have to.
@dmac5808 why do you have an issue with immigrants who are on the same level playing field as African Americans? Do you think your better?
Amen we definitely paved the way for all of them.
No you're not on the same Level Playing Field is African-Americans, first of all you don't know the struggle and you never will, if it wasn't for black people here in America it wouldn't be no America, truth be told every culture that comes to America gets that positive energy from black people
@@SexydameWell! Not only Indians who come to America, but many other cultures who come to America think they're better than Black Americans
@@SexydameI know Black Americans have to deal with stuff you don't have to deal with.
I love the fact that you see the truth and are actively trying to make it better by acknowledging it and putting it on your platform.
To live on a planet that need a bright hot sun, the more melanin in the skin, the better.
You Right I saw a video about Melanin omg I couldn't believe how dominate and Magical Melanin was it was eye opening to watch I said to myself if people only knew about the Darker you are the Greater your chance are to be Chosen to live again on this Melaninated Earth again in 2nd Life wowww
It’s great to see these ladies from another culture, so aware of the systemic racism that affect black people daily. Thank you for speaking truth to power.😘🙏🏽
Hey Stephanie, why are you so wound up? I've been reading angry posts.
@@daviddavis3389you when black people express basic human emotions: 😓☹️🥺😖😖
@@discardedlotus1014 what's that all about? Are guessing that I belong to the Black Race? How exactly what I am anyway?
@@daviddavis3389 no I obviously know you’re not black, hence why you’re so comfortable to insinuate that black people shouldn’t express human emotions like anger.
Thanks my indian sisters for shedding light on this subject!
they are the enemy.... dont call them sisters
Open minded and honest
I am a black American male. And about these two beautiful women I say this ! They are two truly intelligent and well informed young ladies with wise and gentle hearts. And a genuine desire to help make America into what it aspires to be in spirit.
They seem to be a little ignorant of history by saying slavery "started in the 1500's" or with Americans/Europeans. Thats a total lie, slavery was around in every culture of the world for thousands of years. We know the Arabs enslaved Africans for thousands of years, and Africans enslaved each other.
Africa still has slavery today, so does India. India also has a caste system that is 4000 years old. Its really only western countries that have human rights and equality protected by law. All the human rights started in the west. Europe forced most of the world to end legal slavery. Africa still has the worst human rights standards in the world. Most of the non-western world abuses human rights today.
@@tubester4567 We're focusing on American history, why does everybody try to use the argument that slavery was all around the world, Arabs enslaved Africans for thousands of years, and Africans enslaved each other. Once again, the slave trade, that started here, is what the two women are talking about.
If you were to open your mind and historically pay attention with a non-biased mindset you would know that though Western societies' civil rights, abolition of slavery, and the so-called human rights organizations did nothing for black people in this country, at best, they only support Jewish and recently the LGBT community, it does nothing for us., But, should you choose to join, a black fr@ternity, well; then they would be willing to work with you. You just got to sell your soul. Integrate, become indoctrinated incorporated into a "White is Right" European fr@ternity or s0rority, and then we'll give you a pass, and then you get to have the American dream. I know some would ask, "What in the hell am I talking about, but I am making sense you just don't know your history, you just don't know this country's history, But what I'm really sick of is, that people with learning disorders mood disorders and personality disorders trying to give black people a history lesson. Taking on Larry Elder, Candace Owens, and Ben Shapiro's (which are now infighting) talking points; to debunk racial discrimination against, African or African descendant peoples.
shut up simp
Simp
Exactly 👍🏾
Thanks for sharing ! Never thought I’d find a video like this growing up. Grew up aware of this topic, but never heard such enlightened perspectives like yours. Keep spreading the knowledge and love ❤️
You lived a shallow life.
We're blessed with and through the presence and contribution of you two potent humanitarians.
I'm very excited to see other nationally outside Black Americans speaking about blacks . All the rights we enjoy affirmative action, rights to vote etc through them. I'm African enjoying the hard earned labor of black Americans. Thank you so much.
Keep up the good work ladies, conversations like this need to be held. I'm sorry to see so many comments that I consider to be negative but I understand that some people tend to stick to their preconceived notions even in the face of hard evidence to the contrary. Good work! You just gained a new subscriber.
As a black man born in the 60s here in America, I appreciate your perspectives. God Bless
Nice to hear folks who aren’t black or white talking about this. God bless you both.
Thank you very much for taking a lead on this important social matter.
You guys are awesome for this. This is helping change for everyone. Thank you.
Thank you for making this channel, my sister. Please continue teaching our Indian sisters and brothers the truth and let us love each other and learn the goodness and reach out to each other. I love you, sister!
Love, your brown American brother!
Thanks for your awareness. Remember the 350 years of terror America has put in black people. Through the police, we are still terrorized. Despite it all, some of can rise. A Black Chemical Engineer here…
I appreciate this conversation so much and also gaining more insight into the discrimination the Indian community also experiences in America. Thank you for using your platform to deliver such a compassionate message and education.
So glad to see this topic brought up. It's exhausting being a descendant of slaves. Thank you for at least talking about it. Knowing most will still harbor negative thoughts because they choose to.
Our people were never "slaves". They were enslaved.
can you prove you are a descendant of slaves?
@@72kwf Who are you directing your question to? If you are asking me, I suggest you reframe your question. My ancestors were never slaves. They were enslaved.
Damn good conversation. I'm an African American. I especially like the way you guys did not once show any signs of paternalism that can happen with well-meaning people outside the African American community.
I wish there were more Indians like you guys you’re beautiful 😀
There are so many Indians like this. I'm an Indian woman and I support this video.
@@Nina-vr1pz , you are an idi0t that is why. Looks like Indian heritage doesn't matters to you?? And don't support such marriages. Indians should marry among their c0mmunity only.
Thank for this! It's great you broke this down so everyone understands. Keep it up❤
Thank you very much lovely sisters for your great work!!! Keep up the good work, love your content!!!😀😀😀😀
The key missing component of this discussion is the role of Christian missionaries and colonialism on the modern Indian mindset. Christian missionaries have and continue to perpetuate colorism and a myth that different castes have different skins tons. That is missing from this discussion. Recently our blog, No White Saviors, has talked about how missionary work promotes colorism and is indirect colonization. That's not to say that the mindset of those practicing Dharmic faiths need to change. We cannot paint such generalizations. The same can be said about the Inca, the Mayans and Native peoples . Their mindset has been twisted via boarding schools and colonization. Again, these are generalizations.
Stop bull shitting man. So it is Christianity's problem. Another thing about Indians, the Hindu majority, on top of their colorism, castism they also hate each other based on North-South or state/region, then spoken language and religion. They hate Christians and Muslims even after coming over to the USA. It is pathetic, Indians are skilled in dividing to zero!
The humanists were largely anti-black racists too. Even the romantics were.
I’m so glad you guys made this a lot other culture over look what civil rights does to help others cultures. Thanks for letting others know
The complete understanding, caring and complete objectivity warms my heart...
as a black man married to an indian woman (from Pune)...I THANK YOU for this much needed, passionate, thought provoking commentary!
@Jayden Johnson why does it matter to you who i marry? As the forum and comment thread for the videos narrated by these young ladies is meant to encourage positive dialogue and discussion about african and south asian interactions and racial bias i see nothing constructive or positive about the question you asked. Dude...take your negativity and toxic behavior and go troll someplace else. 🖕🏾
@Jayden Johnson because he hates himself lol here sucking up to these 2. He's an embarrassment.
@@siristarburst9 even if that's true, what's it to you? Why do people have the inclination to dick police black men. You probably wouldn't even date that man anyway if he pursued you.
@Jayden Johnson foh with that male feminist matriarchal shit.
@Jayden Johnson maybe he didnt want to. At least she's not yt
Thank you both for your spirit, your energy, and your understanding of the issue. Two Brown goddesses for sure.
I would "black" goddesses because they originated from the original (black) human.
U guys have a good understanding of the Black American experience. It’s interesting because I’ve been trying to explain our experience to my Bangladeshi wife. I’m sharing this with my wife!!
Great communication from you both. This type of communication helps lift society, thank you for that!
As a Black Woman in America we are demonized in America and it hurts to be demonized by other minorities, yes it is a systemic issue and other races have bought into the stereotypes unfortunately I appreciate a honest conversation ✊🏿✊🏾✊🏽
Pamela we are also pitted against each other in America. We have internal problems
We allow it we allow others who fought for nothing to come into this country and disrespect us too bad that needs to change
Stop worrying about how people feel about you, what does God say about you? Do you not understand this is biblical Jesus stated the world would hate us but they hated Him first. Please get over the devil is having them to torment you, because he knows you care about how they feel about you. Please move on it’s not about us anyway it’s about Christ and ministering the gospel of Jesus Christ put your mind and heart on what matters
@@levornspencer5752it's not about how people "feel" about African Americans. The video is about how other minorities buy into the stereotypes of African Americans and there by perpetuate white supremacy. Jesus would want that addressed, wouldn't he? "Verily I say unto you inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of my brethren, ye have done it unto me."
As a black man, married to a black woman with 3 black daughters.. I don't agree, we are demonized if we care what others think.. when we focus on ourselves and don't what others think, then really who cares
I’m Pakistani and grew up and live in the DMV, huge black population. I remember when I was little my parents almost had this natural prejudice about them. It took my 3 siblings and I to show them through our childhood and black people are not all the stereotype you saw on TV. I think a lot of these immigrant parents just came with a lot of ignorance.
DMV ✊🏾shoutout to you champ
Dam, Its sooooo Refreshing someone from another Culture Telling Our Story and Triumphs, and Heart Aches, and Struggles, to get this across to the Dominant Society....Thanks...
Thank you so very much for discussing this topic. I can’t express to you how much this needs to be discussed across all communities. 🌹🌹🌹
You both are totally beautiful , continue your mission and educate with compassion , understanding, and true love .....blessings and peace
Black men finds Indian woman attractive? Just asking.
@@Nina-vr1pz Every ethnic group has beauty, as a hispanic guy I find many Indian women are breathtaking. Specially these two beautiful articulated intelligent women.
@@Nina-vr1pzyes they do, especially in the Carribean
@@Nina-vr1pzand i honestly don’t understand the hate towards indian women and saying that they’re the least desirable. they’re some of the most beautiful women on the planet
man I appreciate you ladies for speaking this truth as I have never heard ANYONE really speak on the fact that African Americans have been the one's who have paved the way for allot of other ethnicities who came afterwards.. Thank you, because people take that for granted and/or completely over look the overall sacrafice.
And your right they do take it for granted
and they need to know this it could be them who're dealing with this craziness in america. Because if we were not in this country and they were they could be experiencing this very same thing. Let us not for get the Native Americans who went through the same thing and modern times don't mean nothing as we can see. I don't
understand why people still want to live in this country the rest of the world must be really really bad.
@@johnclement8913 i feel you for the most part however, i have mixed feelings when it comes to the native americans. The native americans were treated horribly and still are in many ways howeverm to the best of my knowledge (and I could be wrong) they have never lead the charge with regards to civil rights or things of that nature. Yes, they were played roles in already established movements but did not lead.. and let us not forget, they were here before africans yet did not fight for africans and even decent portions of them owned slaves themselves and to a certain degree were deemed "higher up on the toteem pole" (pun intended) by the "white man". I believe there were certain tribes in the south such as the Seminole in florida that disagreed with the practice of slavery and to my understanding, did not.. but that is whole nother story!
You Guys Did a Great Job Laying This out.
THIS... Is so inspiring. To see the youth disregard the old ways of thinking and shed the chains that bind them to ignorance is simply beautiful. I will not see peace on earth in my time, but I got to see these two take their argument right to the Indian dining table. I hope that's where the real dialogue takes place and their families can sort out this cancer that has eaten at the fabric of human decency. Newly subscribed and awaiting your next lessons.
Thank you both you Indian queen's 💯👏🏾👏🏾👌🏾 nothing but the truth same thing here in the UK
I try to engage, befriend and hold out the best of intentions for anyone of any culture. In college I was apart of a multi-culture student organization. I had the opportunity to join an all black organization but I thought this would be a great opportunity to learn about and appreciate others people cultures. The organization had a wide variety of cultures, Black , Chinese, Indian, Nigerian, Russian, Palestinian etc. It was a regular UN of countries. For me, on the surface this was what I have always wanted. A group of people from all walks a life coming together, working together and understanding one another. As one of the few Black people in the organization, I slowly started to realize the perception the rest of the world has about Black Americans, even African Americans. I felt and heard, through allies in these different cultures the stereotypes that were said or the perceptions people had of me and my culture. The worst of these stereotypes came from a guy I considered my friend. He is from Pakistan and was having a conversation with a guy from Palestine. When my "friend" was asked about dating Black people he replied "Oh I would never let my sister date a Black guy, all they want to do is F***." I was in the room not even 10 feet away from where he was and I was so thrown back by his comment and the fact of his blatant disregard that I was even there.
I have tried to befriend other South Asian and Middle Eastern people but it seems more time than not that they feel they know so much about Black American culture that they do not need to put forth any further effort of learning more or if their perception is accurate. It will always end with them comparing the hardships they faced in the country came from to the hardships I face in the country we both are currently in.
I hear you. Do you find the blatant attempt to disregard the struggles of Blacks and make it an apple and orange conversation centered on their experiences is often so very frustrating?
It's akin to explaining to a guy man who shows no outward tendencies of his homosexual orientation about being followed in a grocery as a Black person and having him tell me about being gay. I finally had to say, when they see you, then don't see a gay man. I don't get either the benefit or the luxury as I can't hide my Blackness. It's the first thing people notices about me, followed by my gender.
@@chestchirecateyes it is the most infuriating thing ever to have your experience minimized when all you want to do is speak your truth. I think people don't fully grasp the concept of empathy and feel in order to relate they have to compare one another struggles.
@Jayden Johnson calm down J. I have no interest in dating, attempting to date, nor am I bi-culture curious. I find attraction in the person not their place of origin.
When I say engage I mean to talk and learn about people. I did not single out a gender because that is not my aim.
Now if you have something hateful to say about a person simply trying to create a culture bridge between two ethnicities then spew your hate away, at least it is addressing the topic.
@@ikeboykins121 you're wasting your time, the dick police have found this video, and they can't tolerate black men who have their own thoughts and don't want to stay in the matriarchal matrix smh.
You should have checked his bigoted ass, shame on you if you didnt
Thank you ladies for being an ally, and for just doing the right thing. You voices will help more than you may know.
This is awesome 👏🏾 You are proving that education about history is key
I appreciate your mindset and the approach that you both took. Continue to speak out against Anti- Blackness!
This is a great video. Thanks alot for producing this.
I appreciate y’all for this video, no doubt. Especially going through the history of the antebellum south and then explaining Jim crow and how it was after reconstruction, most people have never heard of the black codes and convict lease system and the chain gang and even the terms and clauses of the 13th amendment. I appreciate it the props to the civil rights movement too..thank you 🙏🏾👍🏾😂
As a African American I am PROUD of your educational candid conversation and THANK YOU for expressing this intelligent important informative video y'all straight kept it rea!l 🙏❤️🙏
I just wanna give these two a hug 😄
A much needed conversation. Thank you from a Black female.
I love what both of you said. Thanks for educating us.
As a Black Man in America this is reassuring to hear!
In this day and age, I don't care what other people who aren't black or don't see themselves as black think of me
Simples
Really it does not matter with your job, housing, or your doctor or healthcare.
Great informative video! Great job!👍🏿
I really appreciate you ladies for keeping it real, I from the south and believe me I’ve seen it and it’s sad when our kids have to. I from a mixed race family and you guys know why… but I truly believe you’re speaking from the heart…
Oh my god. I love you ladies. I am an African American man who’s been waiting to hear this from another person of color now living in America. I have so often been treated by other people of color as if I was some kind of criminal and they didn’t even know me. I even if I wearing a suit and tie it doesn’t matter. People of color of other ethnic backgrounds buy into the stereotypes that has existed in America forever. I used know an Indian woman years ago that I was absolutely crazy about but her family forbid her from socializing with me. That really hurt and it will stay with me for a long time. I just want to say thank you for doing this video, it makes it feel s a little better. Hope to meet the two of you one day.
I’m so glad to see that people of different cultures are having this discussion. Now, one thing we have to do is make sure this doesn’t turn into anti-whiteness. Why? Because then this entire new awareness can be switched around and place us right back where we started. The only thing we should be is ANTI-EVIL.
It's a beautiful thing seeing these East Indians, know and are interested in Black History. A Black Man would marry that.
Thank you. This was a great post. Please do more.
Thank you guys so much for this video 😍
All people of color has benefited from the African Americans Civil right movement which many had suffered marching with Dr King so let's love and appreciate our differences
Thanks for spreading awareness!
WOW...This video is the meaning of what WOKE actually means. This women are spot on point. Thank you and please share this video with more nationalities. Awsome job ladies.
Awesome conversation Ladies. I’m glad to hear you spreading positivity and knowledge on this situation.
Thank you for sharing this. 🙏 We as blacks appreciate the thought of just being accepted. Every race has some bad apples. But we can’t judge all by someone else’s actions. ❤
Seriously, "We as blacks appreciate the thought of just being accepted." Speak for yourself! You sound like a pauper begging for bread. Man get your a** up and claim your position. Do You NOT know who you are? Who you are meant to be??? WAKE UP!
Didn't the British subjugate and enslave Indians, and sent them to the Caribbean Islands, South America- Guyana??
Yes
😮 I like 👍🏽 how eloquently you explained it. I agree.
I almost married a Indian women. Her family wouldn’t approve of marriage so we stop talking and parted ways. We never had any issues and were doing great together.
Hello ladies I’m just coming across your channel two years to late.
Question here.. isn’t India’s anti-Blackness rooted in Hinduism and it’s Cast system?
My first experiences with people from Asia was Indians and Vietnamese co-workers of my parents (both were engineers). My parents were military and we're military brats. My parents had Chinese, Indian, Korean, Laotian, and or Vietnamese aunties baby-sitting us for about 3 - 4 years of our life at about ages 7 - 12 years. These ladies took care of and fed us what they ate. They taught us what they knew. The stories I learn are and were culturally important to me as a black man of African descent. I learned more about my family's orientation or origin story as I grew up. I have always know that Asian people are just people who love and hate on par like any other family or group. I have cousins of asian (Jamaican of Chinese & Indian) and latin (Cuban, Italian, and Spaniard) descent but up until we began these types of conversations I only told people that I am black. Why because that is what you see when you look at me. Also, this is the narrative that fits neatly in the origin story of So-called white European American. When we look at black people and asian we share a rich cultural history. However, we've got to stop allowing racial disagreements and hatreds that did not begin us continue to fester or grow beyond this generation. Our history's are more intertwined than our perceived realities. Thou these connections in history maybe ancient as far as times go. The are real and very tangible connections. It's only the modern times that have us believe warped modern-day historical accounts (fiction) about the African and Asian continent and or countries.
I see a brownskinned man when I look at you. Your color is nowhere near black. Why do people assciate you with a color of a crayon or coloring pencil, if you are not that actual color. This is passed down from racist white people and know everyone excepts that! Besides black is not a race neither is white. They are colors.
@ofc.s.t.smith-jones 9772: your perspective is great but the reality is very different.
@@MrLeon4fun your reality is different.
Thank you and keep up the awesome work. And thank you for having a education, there are a lot of Americans whom lack a decent education
. . . this is truth, big time!!!. . . thank you guys. . . a super great and courage post . . . courage because in America most people will just walk in complacency or go along with the racism to get along . . . This is a good post . . . thank you guys for speaking truth ... Just find one or two people in another ethnicity to get to know and understand other human beings.
We could have this same conversation about the British in India ?
I'm a Black man. In college I dated 8 Indian women. 3 were arranged and hit me up after their wedding. I absolutely LOVE Indian women and culture as a whole. However, I would never be able to deal with their institutionalized racism. That crap hurt. It cut deep
Did you attend college in America?
You have low self esteem if you ever feel bad because people feel better than you. You should respond to them like they respond to you.
@@jabaltariq4606 Low self esteem? Says the guy judging RUclips comments, ha. You got it man
It's ingrained in their culture to adhere and have reverence for white people. Their caste system ( Varnas) were literally given to them by Aryans from the Caucus mountains in about 2000BC. It's saud that the system was race based because the Aryans were so pale while the original Indians ( Dravidians) were very dark.
Take the feelings out of it bruh...I'm a black man too and I love indian women but look at it from strictly survival of the fit standpoint. It's all about genetics. If millions of people in a group displays certain characteristics and another group of people decided not to breed with them I don't blame that group. They're just preserving their genetics. It's about breeding success into your legacy. To be honest with you, African-Americans, we are a a miracle people. We were bred down to be nothing but workers, slaves. Bro we were never intended to be what other races are. It was an aggressive unnatural selection program practiced on us. We were systematically traumatized. Now it's getting better now with groups of people within the African-American community namely the black Greek organizations who are more selective of who they pair up with and breed with. But as a whole you have to admit that we as African-Americans have something totally different genetically than what you normally would see maybe in the Indian community even though they do have problems in their community. The real issue is black people's breeding habits. We have to aggressively breed up the gene pool. That means we can't be breeding so often with dysfunctional people. It sounds harsh and cruel but it's necessary.
So glad you two are speaking out. We all as humans need to stop separating ourselves. All need to educate themselves.
Thank you for having this conversation.
Don’t forget about the War Or Drugs! Thank you!💕💕
Self hatred is why drugs have any chance,
I love parts of Indian culture, especially the food. I do find the people are hard to communicate with. Most of them come across as “stuck up” to me.
Indians have some of THE BEST food! 🔥🔥🔥
You ladies are beautiful inside and out thank you for speaking up and out against racism against black people…..as a black Man who lives in Texas I have had male Indian friends since middle school but never dated an Indian girl in my life…everyone can see how elegant, beautiful and intelligent Indian women are and now I know why they shy away from black men…their are good and bad people in every race…I choose to be good so I hope Indians will learn to open their hearts and see people for who they are and not the labels society sticks on them.
It is because of Indian men. Indian girls will shunned for dating a bm.
I appreciate this video....I lived in Abu Dhabi and I have traveled other places and I met many Indian people and I was treated good. One Indian guy became a personal friend...he would come to my flat during the day and sit and talk...he worked at my apartment and often would bring my son and I snacks.. I miss my Ole friend...but I met people from all over plus I'm Muslim so seeing Indian or Pakistani people was pretty normal for me.. whenever the guys who did construction would see me for the first time they would look like they saw a ghost lol...but some of the others would probably say
..I that's Omar the American..and I always enjoyed seeing and meeting people while out...
You just have to get to know people I think...
It's actually 400 years that have passed when the first slave ships landed.
And 150 years of Jim Crow.
And our ancestors suffered 310 years of slavery. Their numbers were ALL jacked up!
What slave ships? All they ever showed was drawings
Technically more than four hundred years I don't know why people keep saying four hundred years. Way more than four hundred years way pass that lets update please people.
No slave ships. Africans built and sailed their own boats. Africa was decidedly close to the America's before c1300.
Gratitude 🙏🏾 for speaking up and building ✊🏿
This is dope I was looking at the population in South Africa didn't expect that amount its amazing I really like the movement we all from the motherland 💯
I used to work with this Indian young lady. She was in her own world and a lot of people weren't fond of her. I liked her and we had some of the best raw conversations EVER❤❤❤. She was a really nice young lady and I always told her wish nothing but the best. I I know she's somewhere be the boss lady and kicking down doors ❤❤😊😊
Nobody care..