The Best Controller for Super Smash Bros Ultimate on Nintendo Switch
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- Опубликовано: 10 дек 2018
- There are a ton of GameCube controller options for the Nintendo Switch now that SSBU has released. How do they stack up against the Pro Controller for Smash? And which one is the BEST controller option?
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Imagine if you showed up at a tournament with a single joycon
I'd love to see that person win
I understand the joke but aren't wireless controllers banned
@@pee9070 idk
Zoats how come
There's a lot that can go wrong with wireless controllers. For example, someone can connect to the switch with a wireless controller and do a match, then forget to unpair the controller. Then they can accidentally or intentionally disrupt the match.
I play with the pokeball plus
Well you can
@@amxrctrl can you really?
Luck Duck same
True gamer right here
OMG, you monster!
"You're probably not as good as you think you are" at least I know you can use a dpad to navigate the menu
LMFAO
And it’s not even that hard
I was just thinking the same thing at least i know how to navigate the menu
Burn 🔥 dam
If you have conquered getting good at smash for 3ds you can conquer anything
Only reals know
I played nearly 1000 hours of that game
People who started playing Smash in the 3DS, rise up!
You called?
Can relate
PRO TIP!
The gamecube adapter only needs the black usb to be plugged in, the gray one is for the rumble features.
i think most ppl know
Isaac Ugalino this youtuber which name i dont remember didnt know
Rumble is unneeded
The Gamist *rumble is annoying
@@Euro_Vienna I like rumble, it's a matter of taste
Smash on the wii balance board.
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I always preffered the DK bongos
@@danielh6239 same
Mag-Guy teh Grunt you win
My body is ready
My broke ass is still using the joycons with the handle Edit: Joy-con Boyz for life RIP Etika
Hakum Lartey lmao
The JoyCon Grip or in Handheld Mode?
@@Mr_Mimestamp i think they mean the grip
Get a pdp controller like the one he talks about in the video. They're only 20 bucks vs the 70 dollar official Nintendo controllers. They don't have rumble, NFC, and motion controls, but if you're playing smash or Mario kart it doesn't matter.
@@teiadam134 was that one a gc controller?
True gamers use a Guitar Hero Guitar to play Smash
*looks down shamefully at joycon grip...
*Looks further down at single joycon
Hey I use it too because I don't know I just like the feel but I still like procontrollers
Edit: I use the charging grip
The joycon grip is the best for retro games or indie games imo all the other d pads are just ugly
*looks down at pokeball joycon
Idk why but this makes me feel so sorry for you lol. But as a melee elitist (not really like play all of them. Just prefer melee) the only reason the game cube controller was used is because it has been the most responsive for competitive play. But if we find that the pro controller offers any advantages we will switch. Other than that it’s all preference
You're definitively wrong. Best controller is the Donkey Konga Bongos passed through a wireless GameCube adapter while playing with your feet.
2/10 for the video, would not smash.
Jim ofc this has 69 likes
BlueThunder Now 70 haha
@@April480p 89
Now 97
Wish this can get more than liked
4:31, you know there’s a D-pad right?
Palutena goes Nair that’s what I said😂😂
Yeeuejjs
Yeah lol
Please do a re-review of these controllers after one year of use, which ones have lasted this long and which ones stopped working 6 months after purchasing (looking at you,Power-A)
I would love to know that myself
That's why I love the oem controller. 100 hours or 10000 hours, it just keeps working.
My powerA GC controlled started to drift after 8 or 9 months :/ I just use the pro controller now, honestly a great controller.
powerA controller sucks dude, good to know im not the only one with this problem. Been playing smash since melee, my old GC wired controller finnaly kicked the bucket so I tried the wireless one BIG MISTAKE. Went ahead and bought a official wired version It's been a year and no problems.
bruhhh whattt how about hori
Sorry but I only play Smash Ultimate with the wrist strap. Joy-Cons not necessary; just the strap.
Lol only 2 buttons but what are the bindings?
a man of culture as well
*ABSOLUTE MADLAD*
EPIC
TOP TIER
evo 2019 grand finals:
sideways joycon vs pokeball plus
can't wait
Me: *Cries in loving single joy-con*
nice to the mice of the ice in the bike it really doesn’t get enough credit though.
How and why?
At least use the grip like I do. No need to hurt your hands more than the melee players. :/
@@HONEST-xj4rr hey I've seen you before
I feel you
Pffft single Joy Con
I use Voice Commands
Me too
I use telekinesis to move the analog stick
Side b, up, nair, fair, dair, nair
amateurs i use motion controlls
"NAIR, JUMP, NAIR, JUMP, FAIR, TAUNT"
What if I wanna play with the wii steering wheel? What then?
Why the FUCK would you play with a fucking STEERING WHEEL?! The most obvious option is to play with a wireless dildo!
@@kabula9214 Instructions unclear, Wiimote stuck in my ass.
@@kabula9214 Hell no nintendo Powerglove is way better
@@elkejajaelkeja8836 Powerglove is best way to play ANY game, even rainbow six siege. Proof: ruclips.net/video/TKNHEkKiQEE/видео.html
What about DK bongo drums??
I'm not very good
I try to be good but I'm not very good
I have never resonated with anything this much ever
Im fine with the Joycon grip, especially my Power A grip (better for adult hands, since it's wider) but I've really grown accustomed to playing with the SN30 8bitDo controller. It's by far the best option with the least amount of travel, versatility, and possibly the best shoulder buttons in the industry today!
First reply in 4 years😊
That switchable stick on the PDP controller is sheer genius.
Still recall the old thumbstick friction burn from using the GameCube controller back in the day.
Thanks for letting me know about this so I can now go and get one.
You’re all ignoring the best option of playing with a single wii nunchuck... smh and you call yourselves gamers...
We laugh and joke, but I really used WiiMote + Nunchuk until Smash 4 😂
@Phantom Thieves the switch is a gimmick
Phantom Thieves I loved the wii what are you trying to fucking say
Clammyhippo same
you actually can with the 8BitDo GBros adapter
I can't use wired controllers because I have a large parrot. The last time used a wired controller I was in the middle of a game and the controller stopped working. So Looked down and there was my parrot tearing apart the cord.
The joys of pets
my cats do the same, I get it
how much doodoo you have on your couch?
@@CosmicFist
Not much actually. My parrot likes to poop off of what ever she's perching on so most of the "doodoo" lands on my wood floor which I clean up when ever I see any parrot poop on it.
Livebearer Fancier simply put it down, easy solution
With the portable mode you can do two things:
1-Carry an external controller in your bag
2-Set up some comfortable controls
"GameCube controller"
"No, Pro controller"
Me, an intellectual: sideways Joycon
I use my cat to play Smash Bros or a Joy Con or the Nintendo DS
@@Andrewo. Cat?
@@Snakey335 Right
Haha funny joycon joke lol xD
3:40 the grey USB plug is just for rumble you do not need to plug both of them into the switch
And there's an extra USB port on the back
@@ysgatora9287 Most people use that for a wired connection as I am currently using.
If you have a USB hub, you can connect it to the back and connect multiple wired controllers
Correct, the controller adapter functions properly using 1 usb port, meaning you can use 2 adapters on a single switch if you're willing to overlook the rumble which realistically who really cares that much about?
I think the rumble is more important than the controls
The grey USB connector on the Gamecube adapter is for rumble only. You can connect only the black USB and it works for the controller and leaves a USB open.
Derrek Sammons I did not know that...thank you
@@Kdogcentral5ables And also the rumble in the gamecube controller is fucking aggressive, the damn thing even rumbles more than a Xbox 360 one
Oh wow! Thanks for that I was wondering how I’m going to fit the lan adaptor
I was hoping someone would say this. I've known this for years because I just tested it myself. I was literally the only one I know that knew this, as I was telling everyone at a tournament.
@@cjp2099 You know there is a third usb port in the back.
Agree about the shoulder buttons! BUT! Super easy to mod to remove that massive extra travel. I cut slivers of 3M foam squares (leaving 1 side of stickiness covered) to hold the buttons in the halfway-down position. Pretty sweet but still should've been a dang digital button
Thanks for reviewing these controllers man. Really saved me a lot of time effort for researching these. Love your stuff.
I still prefer the dreamcast fishing rod.
same
I use rockband drums
my resident evil chainsaw begs to make your pardon
@@dicknavis00 alright this was pretty good
Would you like to try a game of Lucky Hit? It's 50 dollars a game, and the rule is--
I know the rules!
Pokeball plus for the win
Skymin Plays oh yes
Yes
The controller of the gods
EPIC
I bought the blue controller months ago and I love it to bits, not just for smash too. It’s so much more comfortable than joycons or regular pro controllers in my opinion
2:56 actually... yes you do XD it happened to me, as soon as I got my GC controller, I went from losing 8/10 matches to 2/10 matches
Oof
single joycon?
I did that too
Just a little fyi, the gamecube adapter only needs the black tip usb to be plugged in, the grey one is for rumble functionality
You sir are the true hero I never knew that till now lol
I glad more people know this than I thought.
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Holy shit....
Does that mean you could plug in 2 adapters and play 8 player smash with all gamecube controllers?
The gamecube adapter ONLY requires using the black USB cable, the other is for rumble. So if you have 2 adapters, you can rock 8 gamecube controllers.
Aaron not all heroes wear capes.
although I can't speak to the official Nintendo adapters (either Wii U or Switch) with the mayflash adapter - an extremely popular 3rd party alternative - this isn't true and if you only use one cable then having multiple GC controllers plugged into it will cause their inputs to overlap; e.g on char select screen me and my buddy were both moving the same hand when we tried this.
HalfEatenBurrito that doesn’t happen to me and I have the same adapter...
@@Henry-qt3py how odd, we were attempting to do 8 player smash with 6 joycons and 2 gc controllers when the issue occurred. I assumed it was the adapter's fault because when i plugged the other cable in the issue ceased, however it's possible it was just the system being confused by the sheer number of controllers plugged into it. The switch is impressively powerful but it's still a portable console.
I have used the joycons with the controller grip thing since the game came out but I turned tap jump off, both left shoulder buttons to grab, right back shoulder to shield, front right shoulder to jump, y to attack, a to jump, and tilt stick and it’s amazing
Been recently watching a bunch of reviews for controllers, this guy definitely has the best humor I've seen
i use a single joy con controller because i'm a masochist.
I use a single Joy-con controller because i can't afford anything else😂
I use the joy con strap only. Get on my level
Only counts if it's the left one...you know why.
I know that pain, especially with my big paws. Friends get annoyed for me accidentally screnshotting when playing.
my switch decided to not charge anymore its not the dock the controllers still charge i love this the pain
Real men use the gamecube keyboard controller smh tbh imo
God's use the Donkey Konga bongos
What about the power glove
Real gamers use a wii steering wheel
@Dunk Master 64 real gamers use virtual boy
@Dunk Master 64 gamers use yobo gamecube controller
I got both the PDP and the powerA wireless controller. I prefer the feel on the powerA controller. Even after months of switching between the 2 controllers, the pdp one still feels the same as it did when I bought it. Does mean it's a proper controller, the problem is that it lacks some comfort at that point.
I had a feeling there was some input lag here and there; I've been using the Bowser themed Pro Controller for awhile and while I do love it, I think I might go with the Zelda PDP controller as I feel for me personally, especially in competitive setting (if you really wanna get serious that is) that every second matters and the lower response time I feel would make me do better. 8.5 is a huge leap from 7.5.
Not only that, but as someone whose used the Gamecube controller since Melee, I love it all around and it has such a nice comfortable feel. I have noticed that switching over to the Pro Controller does give me a rather awkward feel so it makes sense to swap eitherway. But hey, I figured I'd give a different controller a try right? See if it worked or not and it did to a point sure, but, doesn't exactly feel the same.
Hows it been for you so far?
Pfft, controller.
I play with my mind by connecting myself with god to have the power to move electrons from my soul to the usb port of my switch so it registers an input.
ok
@King Rooster r/wooosh i guess
@King Rooster yes
Oh Gawd He Used Hacks
Is that your stand??
I can’t believe I feel this way, after 15 years of strict GC use, but the pro controller is GREAT. Plus in wired mode the ping is super low.
There's actually higher latency wired than wireless according to ruclips.net/video/fbgQdM6TcEM/видео.html
But it doesn't take into account distance and interference variables.
@@7Cedira just wanted to say that
Brookes Eggleston - Character Design Forge yeah your better off using it in wireless mode
I must also be among the minority who actually prefers the pro controller as well.
Prime example of people talking out of their ass for no reason.
I use an ultra pro wii bat from wii sports
Lol casual. Tennis racket is where it's at.
Wii Bowling Ball, anyone?
I waste 1000 every year for my tvs but it's my favourite one
Wat
Nice
Thanks for your video. I appreciate your work. The controller you mentioned at 9:21 has been the best one for me because of its size/weight/reliability.
I bought a PDP Sonic controller, whilst I bought the Mario one for my friend. But I have a bone to pick with PDP. Both of our “A” buttons stick. And mine just happened after 1-2 weeks of playing. So my pretty sonic controller is just sitting around for its looks right now. It was $60 brand new and hard to find. I’m a sonic Mainer so I was so happy to find sonic themed controller and I wasn’t mad that it costed $20 more than my friends Mario controller. But as you said, the “A” button is the focus of the right side of the controller. Not happy at all. Have been trying noninvasive cleaning to fix it. But nothing works, because it’s not dirty. I’ll be calling them up to see what they will do. And I’ll advise if there’s any feedback.
Does your “A” button stick from time to time on your Zelda PDP controller?
Reminder that the GC adapter only needs the black Usb to play, the grey one is for rumble
Dr. G&W ohhh
The Let’s Go pokeball is the best smash bros controller
Thanks for this very detailed review of each controller.🤗🎮 I'm planning to purchase my own Nintendo Switch + Smash Ultimate game and I was in dilemma which controller (best suited for Smash) I have to get.
JOYCONBOYZ🖤
Rest easy Des🖤
hold up we them boys (hold up) make some noise
Jesus Christ joins the battle
papadadio 💀💀
Lol
Lmao
Jesus Christ resurects into battle
@@crinsombone5380 lmao
love all these controllers, but man the convenience of having separated joy cons is soooo nice.
😂😂😂😂 not at all
that's also the reason why I'm not getting a controller for smash.
I just got some grips so my friends have a better hold of the joycons
Yeah just get some grips and it's easier with friends
Those joyconns are too tiny for me..
Ever since brawl I've been using the Wii Balance Board, really keeps me in shape during my long smash sessions.
I am using my now around 15-17 year old gamecube controller from when i was a kid, they still need the adapter, but otherwise work just perfectly and i am super happy about that :)
Nothing’s worse than being the one who gets the Wii remote without nunchucks.
I’ll take the JoyCon over that torture any day.
Relatable.....
... I actaully have a freind that ONLY used that controll scheme ... I have no idea how he maneged to even play good with it, let alone alone prefere it
@@doc8125 wait... wii controllers work with the switch??
@@jeremycote2222 only with an adapter, but that was the way he played in the brawl and 4 days, now I think he has switched over to joy cons
@@jeremycote2222 I have another friend that used the 3ds as a controller, and would only play with something else if he forgot to bring his 3ds ...
True gamers do it on wii balance board with pokeball + wearing gunnar glasses.
Prove me wrong
outSider Cain ok poser, real gamers use the donkey Kong bongos but whatever you say
outSider Cain do*
@@cardoggs7861 kongas are legit. Good point
@@turtato2155 edited, thanks
Ricardo Gonzalez no real gamers use voice commands you just shout what you want to do but it has a bad mic so you have to scream it and you can’t plug a mic in until the year 2022.
Love this channel Bob, you and the Team do a Smashing job all round.
I have the pdp one, and I've been using as my main controller. It's so nice. I really love it! The reason I'm doing this is because my pro controllers left stick is dragging really badly. So it's unusable. And apparently every single pro controller has this problem, so I didn't want to shell out another 70 dollars for a doomed controller. I was using an Xbox one controller with the 8bitdo adapter, but it only stays connected for about 30 minutes and takes longer to connect. A ps4 connects faster and for longer, but it kept making my switch shut down completely. So I'm extremely with my pdp gamecube controller. Plus I main link in smash so it's cool that it has that design. Thank you for reading my novel!
I play with Nintendo Labo Robot Man. Get on my level, weebs.
DarkTyyp Music *top 10 strongest anime characters of all time*
HA Robot Man? I utilize DK Bongos.
Ernie Gang a man who has ascended far beyond our human limitations
*10 Characters that can beat thanos easily even with the infinity gauntlet*
Bah, I use my pokeball plus from pokémon let's go, get out nerds
I use the joycon grip cuz Nintendo will never discount the pro controller.
The normal one has gone down to like 50 bucks
@@RJ_1017 I rather wait until they do proper $20 discounts like Sony and Xbox. I am not competitive anyways and joycons are fine.
@@squalltheonly yea I'll admit Nintendo is a bit stingy when it comes to lowering their prices
Just get a PowerA wired controller. It’s only $20 at Walmart. Infinitely better than the joycon. The trade off is it doesn’t turn on the console and it obviously wired.
@@IDiggPattyMayonnaise It's their choice, and your opinion. It won't be the same for everyone, so you don't need to force them.
subscribed because you took the time to measure the input lag. even these quick measurements are hard to come by.
the gamecube's bumper travel time is not really an issue in smash, because if you have your smash basics nailed down, you won't really be playing purely reacting to your oponent, you usually shield preemptively, you try to read.
the best controller is really the one the player feels the best with, i really recommend the pro controller cuz it's super confortable in general, but the big issue with it is that the plastic it has wears down really fucking fast on the left joystick (specially if you play smash pretty often) , and the dust that comes off gets into the stick's sensor, making it drift really badly with time.
the gamecube one is really good for smash but it might not feel as good as as using a pro controller in other games.
good vid
i am using the grip.. and i hate myself..
Man I keep having to stop playing every 30 mins because it was killing my hands... I ordered a pro controller but it hasn't arrived...
To be honest, portable mode is pretty good for me. I'm loving it
I would have liked to see a frames comparison on that... Probably the fastest.
MikeyTate LOL
@@jonathanflores5691 I think its good. People treat it like its awful.
MikeyTate I play with the joy cons also it's awesome
@@ChiliD0gz Lol. I dont prefer it by any means, saying that it is the worst thing or the best thing is wrong, but it is not the end of the worldm
Just picked up a Mayflash-style Wii U/Switch Gamecube controller hub to use on Dolphin this past weekend. My Gamecube’s laser is dying and needed something a little more reliable, especially during a time when we could go on lockdown. I don’t have the most powerful laptop, getting a bit of input lag, but it works. Stay safe and take care.
Mapping your y button to grab is a great way to be able to do it without shielding accidentally
Gamecube controller was acually designed in tandem with melee, theres a reason people stay with it for all smashes, it just feels right
@@Blittsplitt5 All Smash games following Melee control the same way.
@@Blittsplitt5 hahahahaha, dude... You do realize they all have the same controls right?
@@GhibliNova was it really worth all those ha ha's, nerd?
@@Jbayz hahaha you do realize youre calling me a nerd on a video about which gamecube controller is best for super smash brothers right? I just like laughing, laughing's my favorite
Ghibli ilbihG yea maybe. But wouldn’t it be easier to use a pro controller... you can press more buttons at once
For gamecube controllers the shoulder buttons only need to go like half way
T3M0 Lul less than that, its like 1/4 travel from rest
that Power A controller worked wonderfully for me for a long time, but eventually the A button specifically (y'know, the one Smash really needs) started sticking. I've cleaned the controller and tried dissembling it and everything but no luck. I'm just glad I got it for 30 bucks on Black Friday instead of MSRP
My A button for PDP started sticking after just 2 weeks. Paid 60 buckaroos for it. Not happy.
@@tlopez2608 i found them on amazon for 12 dollars feel bad for you man
Enjoyed your video. Thanks for sharing.
The divots are a good thing. They are used for forward tilts, certain recoveries, and angled smash attacks.
Chris D'Elia really knows his smash
Aint gonna let u get away with that voice crack buddy lmao 7:49
The gamecube controller’s shoulder buttons are pressure sensitive for me
(I have the controllers from when the gamecube came out)
Gotta wear them out lmao, i had one from 05 and my R is the perfect notch LMAO
The OG GameCube controller will start your shield right when you press it, don’t have to press all the way down so travel time won’t matter on smash.
Yeah, those shoulder triggers don't poll strictly at 1 or 0, instead traveling between 1 and 0 based on how far you push down.
Thats where i noticed that this guy has no idea what he is talking about
It's less about the travel for activation as much as it's annoying to have a button travel so far that you have to use so often. It's very much usable. It just has no real use in a fighting game.
Analog triggers with a Digital button in the bottom, Games can (and sometimes did in the gamecube days) map both to different functions.
If you do press it all the way down the buffer can keep it pressed after you release it
"The menu is horrible"
*UR OPINION IS INVALID*
Thats facts
@@imakekomics3539 Which is "the facts".
@@cortex8239 I guess I should've worded myself better, well what I was trying to say by that is that in a joking way I suppose, is that the "fact" was that his opinion is invalid because the menu itself is actually a really good, intuitive and simple menu. But of course he has a right to his own opinion so he can think whatever he wants about the menu, I was just joking around
@Nintendo Stavros Or just tap a couple times with the DPad
I mean, I never have problems with the menu, wtf is wrong with him lol
And he doesn’t like GameCube shoulder buttons! They’re the best ones smdh
I play with two combined PoweA wired controllers. I put three counterweights (they have metal conterweights in them) in the left side, and took a sander to the rigbt joustick to make an efficient C stick.
I have all of those controllers, and I would also mention that the Zelda PDP one is a different shape than an actual GameCube controller. It’s much thicker on the middle, and some people might not like that
Thanks for the info coach Steve
PowerA GameCube controller gave me the Wavebird nostalgia. I can play Mario kart, Mario Tennis, and Odyssey. I'm set...
a note to anyone watching currently: the pdp controller is both ridiculously priced in most cases and also, when notched in the downright/downleft notch, in ultimate specifically, it will walk forward as opposed to the normal GCC which makes you crouch and still inputs a downward angled f-tilt when you press A. i also had this problem on multiple Power A wired controllers after about a month or two of heavy use each. never had this issue with any OEM controller
Thank you!! This helped me a lot!
I like the wireless PowerA a lot. I don't mind any of the control styles though. Even a single joy-con works surprisingly well.
Actually you don’t need both ports. You only need the black one. The white one is for rumble. (That nobody uses)
I use it. To be fair though, i also use the wireless power-a gc controller that doesn't have rumble. Bottom line is i prefer rumble for smash attacks but i don't miss it either.
Can somebody fact check this please? I would do it myself but only have one adapter
Zane Gillespie do these alternative controllers have rumble (not HD)? I’d really miss it! I have a couple of old GCN controllers - will they rumble if the white one is plugged in?
@@kyonlamb Yes this is true. You can even use the adapter on a PC and only need the black cable for the controller to work.
Another note. The Original Gamecude controller L/R has a lot of travel but theirs a reason. In smash, the shield has different pressure sensitivities. Low or Hard shield and it matters in advanced/pro play. BTW another note even the tilt of your shield matters.
Attaching to this comment.
Thank you finally someone says something about plugging in controllers it's convenient mostly the only problem is the wire could be a little too short sometimes depending on how far you're sitting here or laying other than that it's more convenient than batteries or Bluetooth
For the latency test, is the delay considered from the jab startup or when the hitbox comes out? Because jabs aren't frame 1.
Satisfye grip helps a lot in portable mode as far as the right joystick goes. The buttons are still somewhat annoying but at least I'm not cramping my thumb trying to flick the analog stick to do a special.
I have the same grip and it's awesome!
2:00 your gamecube controller shoulder buttons go down very smoothly but the ones i bought make a clicking sound and it wears out after a while making it feel weird to press.
Thank you, great review
I got that same PDP controller, as I prefer wired controllers. A few problems I had with it were that the joystick area is huge compared to the other controllers. You have to move the stick roughly 50% further to fully tilt. Also, the most glaring problem, after about a month of playing with it, tilting the left stick to the right to walk, made me instead... attack left... And taping left made me walk slowly. I'm not rough with my controllers at all, and that thing broke almost immediately. I'm using the wireless controller now and have had no issues. 👍
I have the powerA controller and I love it. ONE major problem though is i went to a tournament and it was a major pain to connect it every time I switched stations. It also kept connecting to the other console and I had to start taking the batteries out so that i would not interrupt the other players. I went back to the cord.
I have one and the L stick rubber has started to rub off after just several hours of use. I may have to return it or get a replacement.
It plays just like the Pro controller. Actually the switch thinks that it is a pro controller and not a game cube controller. @Griff -
Small correction about the OG GCC shoulders. It registers the input after a certain analog value. You don't need to bottom out for the digital click. This means that you aren't actually hindered for using it.
You don't need both USB ports for the adapter. The gray is only used for rumble which most people who want the GCC turn off anyway.
You can also remap controls in Smash (the rare time Nintendo handles controls right) so the whole shoulder flip-flop on 3rd party controllers or Joycons doesn't matter.
There is also a cheaper 3rd party GCC adapter by Mayflash that works just as well and works on PC out of the box.
And small note, wired Pro Controller is even slower than wireless Pro Controller. Likely just a design defect but interesting nonetheless. Just mentioning since it's an option and wired isn't always faster (not that you said it was).
On your first point though about the OG GCC shoulders registering input after a certain analog value: do you feel as if the long travel on those buttons aren't still an issue when you consider the fact that people don't consciously do half presses and then let off the shoulder button to reduce time spent if needed to press again soon after?
I feel like if you need to be free for your next input as soon as possible when playing competitively, you would probably do best with a controller where you can confirm an input with little travel and muscle memory than trying to compromise one for other.
@NPC #9258813 In smash, your shield goes light or harder based on the pressure/travel of the shoulder. Timing (how long included), density and angle of your shield actually matters, especially in advanced/pro play. So U actually lose functionality and this exactly why you would see pros only use the original design.
@@YaKillaCJ Actually light and heavy shields are gone, those are only in melee. In brawl, 4, and ultimate, the shield is the same regardless. Making analog triggers even more useless
@@soulseer5789 with the new controllers, there is no analog input, its been replaced with digital. i feel they kept the controller the same throughout for the purpose of ease of use for old and new smash players.
@@KingDrixx In all reality, due to the buffering and how inputs work in Ultimate, pressing shield for too long doesn't really matter. What matters is just the time to the input. Shield doesn't have any downsides for pressing too long like a jump or attack could.
That said, if you remap the trigger to something else, it'll likely hinder you. I tried L to Jump, it sucked where it's better on the Pro. But this video doesn't seem like it was made with the knowledge that you can remap.
I love this friggin channel.
I enjoy using the pro controller.
SINGLE JOYCON WILL TAKE OVER!
For the game cube controller adapter you don’t need the grey USB port, that one is supposedly for vibration, so you can take it off and it would still work.
You gotta give links to the awesome statue's you have in the background omg they're amazing .
I actually use the HORI one for CTR, and even though Y to brake feels a bit strange, it works just fine playing with the d-pad and switched trigger buttons.
Keep in mind you don’t need use the two USBs for the switch adapter.
The grey one just turns on the rumble, which isn’t always needed
I have smashed really quick with a friend on a tabletop
I had to read this twice to understand it
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You said that wasn’t a scientific approach but it was. You took a very scientific approach with the tools available. Props.
Retro Fighters has a new GameCube controller coming out this year, and I'm on the waitlist for that, so we'll see how it is. They have both staggered and parallel variants.