New CNC Router *MUST DO* - [ Break It In! ] - Garrett Fromme
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- When you first get a new CNC router, it is important to make sure it is set up right. You want to run a break-in cycle to make sure everything is settled in. Otherwise, there may be some parts that are not tightened down properly.
This video shows you how to set up your CNC router to break your new CNC router in, and how to write the gcode to do it. this video is beginner CNC router owners. This is the first step of CNC router maintenance
In case you are wondering what is g code, this video will show you how to write gcode for your CNC router to run this cycle.
Once you run a breakin cycle, you will find that some things need to be tightened or adjusted.
This video was shot with the Longmill CNC router
Here is the download link for the g-code to the Longmill 30x30 CNC router
→ idcwoodcraft.com/download/2936/
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This is important for all CNC routers, no matter which brand you have.
Longmill, Shapeoko, xcarve, millright, mill wright, workbee, queenbee
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GCODE TO COPY
(You can delete text in brackets after you wrote the code)
(a decimal point is not needed when a move to zero is made)
( ↓ Use these by default ↓ )
G54
G90
G20 (inch) or G21 (mm)
G0X0Y0Z0
(↑ End of default code ↑)
( ↓ change and copy according to your machine ↓ )
X29.Z-3.5
Y30.Z0
X0Z-3.5
Y0Z0
M30 (put this at end of code)
G54
G90
G20
G0X0Y0Z0
X29.Z-3.5
Y30.Z0
X0Z-3.5
Y0Z0
M30
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couldn't download file, says file cannot be found. entered it manually and router went left instead of right and jammed. ???
@@kevinduke6491 longmill won't jam. The settings in g sender... Change the axis direction that went the wrong way
Hi Garrett, Just want to say Thank you, this video was extremely helpful and very informative. Appreciate the time and effort you've put in.
You're very welcome, I'm glad to help my friend!
brake-in successful executed according your detailed instructions on this video
thanks a lot!
Kai from Switzerland
Kay, thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Received my LongMill MK2, built the table and assembled the LongMill. Now what is my next move? This video explained the next move exactly. THANK YOU! I haven't seen anyone else recommend or discuss a break-in process for a new CNC. I guess the pros figure we should already know this information. You take us through the steps of "best practices" in a way we can understand the why and how. You even covered writing a g-code program. Took the mystery out of it. Finding Garrett of IDC Woodcraft has significantly improved my CNC experience.
Wayne, congrats on getting your longmill set up and ready to roll! I'm glad to hear the video was helpful on getting you up and running smoothly! Keep up the excellent work my friend, happy cutting!
Well I am finally ready to break in my new CNC...What a excellent explanation of G code...You are a remarkable person and am looking forward to learning more as I go along..Thank you again.
Hi Dwayne. Thank you. I can't wait to see what you start creating!
I watched again this morning 🌄. My coffee ☕ doesn't taste right 😋 without you. Hmmm, I have a little mischievous idea 💡 (don't I always). As they say in the Navy, standby for a bow shot! 😎
Oh no...not again. [ ducking ]
Another great video Garrett! Very helpful. Learning the simple G-Code was a plus. Thank you for all you do for your CNC brothers and sisters!
Greg, very welcome! Thanks again!
Great video! I loved the writing the G code part. Something so simple but learned alot. Thanks and keep them coming.
HI NICHOLAS. tHANKS FOR SHARING THAT. g CODE IS NOT HARD ONCE ONE GETS THE BASIS OF WHAT IT MEANS
DOING THIS SAVED MEN A ROUTER BIT, Z AXIS LOOSENED AND ROUTER DROP DOWN. THANK TOU
You are so welcome my friend.
Great video Garrett & excellent advice. I always run a 'break-in' cycle or 'break-in' period on tool / machine I get, whether it be a kit, built from scratch, or ready-made. I also do periodic maintenance on all my tools & machines. Other than replacing parts, due to wear & tear, I have never had a problem with any of them. Some of them are pushing 40 years old and still going strong
Thanks for commenting this, Patrick. This is vital to long lasting equipment. I will do a video on maintenance soon, as well.
Writing this gcode helps me to better understand how my CNC operates. As with any tool, the more you know about how it works the better you will be at using it. Very informative video. Thanks.
Matt, you are so right. The gcode does force you to understand what your machine does.
Thanks Garrett, and boy did it prove out. I have the Longmill have spent time getting it setup, issue with squares causing the gantry to to come off the the lead screw, thought i bent it but happy to say I did not. After I got that straightened out and ran a few jogs around you video for the break in came out. Well I am glade I ran it. You have like 102 passes and on the 101st the coupler came loose on the left y access. Yikes lead screw popped off and gantry started to get out of align. Wow at the very end of the test! So I have it back connected and am going to run another one. Thank you for getting this gcode out there it found an issue for me. I think I will build myself a check list for each run and for sure use this break in every so often
Hey Chris. I'm so glad you found that now. It would completely suck if you found it during a project. Whew!
Definitely do a monthly maintenance check.
Great info. Looking to eventually purchase a Longmill, but I currently have a foxalien 4040xe. It's a decent machine but cheaply built. One of the most crucial things I've started doing is periodically measuring vibration with my phone sitting on the router during a test cycle (I'm an NVH guy). Doing this periodically provides an opportunity for performance trends to be developed and ensure my machine is running as consistently as possible. Wish I would have done this when I first got it.. but live and learn!
Jason, that is really involved my friend. Sounds like when you pick yourself up a longmill it will be in good hands!
Will be grabbing my free gcode in a few weeks! Thanks for this video as well!!!!
I smell CNC router in your very near future!
Garrett,
What a great explanation of code! Thank you. I will be buying from you again. Great dedication.
BTW, how do you keep you work space so immaculate? Have you already done a video on the unique wasteboard?
Hi Dave. I clean up my workspace after cutting jobs. What you don't see in the videos is my work bench. that's a different sgory.
Here's the video on the spoilboard: ruclips.net/video/dbxtLQY26Cw/видео.html
This is so cool. I appreciate this.
sfg18b, thanks brother!
I have not been able to get Gsender to see my SKR Pro 1.2 that runs my MPCNC with Marlin 2. I am using Repetier right now. I have a bunch of Arduinos. I use them for all kninds of projects around the shop. I might dump GRBL on one and convert the CNC.
Hi KG. Contact Longmill. They can probably solve. An alternative would be to join the CNC troubleshooters facebook group
Hi Garret, the problem with oiling the parts is that over time the sawdust hardens, creating micro grooves, both in the linear guides and in the threads. And with that, it generates more clearance, that's why sawing with oil and grease don't mix. Another point is that as soon as sawdust is added to the oil, it quickly disappears due to its absorption. The ideal is to put graphite powder and rub everything with your hand. the lubrication will last much longer and will even avoid creating gaps.
Eduardo, that is a great tip. A dry graphite powder would work great.
Great video Garrett! Just found your channel (and subscribed). I have a LongMill on order and was wondering if you had a video on how to square up the gantries so that the plane of movement of the two Y rails is parallel and the X is perpendicular to it. I don't trust that measuring between the mounting holes on the supports would be accurate enough. Thanks!
Hank, that is a very good video idea. I will look into that! I do have a video that will let you check the accuracy of your machine to make sure it is set up correctly. Heres a link: ruclips.net/video/l1oh8nekPu4/видео.html
In this video I made a rather small square but you can make a larger square to propagate any errors you might have in the setup of your machine.
Great video. I downloaded the "break in" gcode file and edited to break in the larger 30x48 Longmill I'm waiting delivery on. Just changed the X29's to X47's, should be that simple. I noticed a glitch on line 196 of the gcode file, two commands on the same line need to be separated. Maybe good to edit the file for future downloads by the rookies like me! Cheers
Guapo, good catch my friend. Thanks for pointing that out. Editing Gcode is far from a rookie brother, you are well ahead of the curve!
Good idea. I wrote one for my CNC plasma but haven't done one for my OneFinity. Something new on the to-do list :-)
One last step though, would be once you've run this, you should go back and check all the nuts and bolts for tightness, the X and Y rails for square and the Z for perpindicularity (new word I just made up). That way if moving everything around a lot has loosened anything and caused things to get out of square you'll catch it and be able to address it before cutting for real.
Hey Jim. I'm glad you're going to do that gor your router. It can definitely make a difference. Did you find anything after you ran it for your plasma?
@@IDCWoodcraft I did find a place where it was binding the first time I ran it on my plasma table. Also where one of the cables was setup too short. There were a couple of screws I tightened but don't know if I hadn't tightened them enough when I assembled it or if they were loosened from the torch head being driven all over the table. I don't do a lot of full table cuts with the plasma (it's 4ft wide) so I haven't noticed any issues since I went through the burn-in routine.
I watched this video and wee you ran through the G "Break in" g code download when the spoil board was already established. How was the spoil board grid and surfacing done, prior to the "Break-in" g code grid being established?
Alistair McIntosh
Alistair, either is fine. If you already have the spoilboard on your machine, you can do this Gcode at any time!
Really enjoy your videos, the only thing I find a little hard is the audio,I like the sound of the audio before you start the narrating over the video. The audio sounds tingy. The first audio sounds fuller and I think. Must be the mics your using. Maybe others don't notice it. I notice it more when. Having headphones in especially. Content is great 👍👍👍👍
Hi Farb. Thank you. I am aware of this. I guess it's that I am not high tech. I use 2 cell phones and a head set mic and each has their own 'flavor'. I'm slowly working on it.
Thanks again for being an incentive to improve
It's good to dry run a machine around close to it's travel limits. We often do that in industry. We call therm warm up programs. It lubricates the ways, lead screws and other moving parts. It also helps keep rust off of critical areas.
With routers, it seems obvious they would benefit from doing the same thing. A "warm up" program is easy to write once you know the G code for your machine. You can even use a program you created for a piece that is pushing the limits of your machine travel. Just don't put any material on the machine.
I also noticed you put some oil on the lead screws. Lubrication on moving pieces is always a good idea for smooth operation and to reduce corrosion in areas of the machine travel you don't often go to. Running your warm up program occasionally will keep all areas lubricated and clean.
Next Wave Automation recommends I use Dupont Teflon Silicone Lubricant on my Shark. It's a dry lubricant. Well, unfortunately that seems to have been discontinued by Dupont. Now they recommend CRC 3-36 Dry Film Lube. I can see benefits to dry lube of this type as dust won't stick to or mix with it like it would with a wet lube.
I don't know what Long Mill or other brands of machines recommend for lubricants. That is probably a good thing to know.
Oh man, I forgot about dry lubes. I will definitely make note of this in a future video. Thank you. Your input and experience is extremely helpful in reminding me of things.
Would you then wipe off your threaded rods then re-lube? Getting off any small metal shavings would reduce wear and smooth out motion.
Hi Bon. Yes. I forgot to mention to wipe any debris after the break in. Thanks for mentioning that here so others will see it.
Garrett, thanks. Breaking the box open this weekend. Should I have a checklist to check certain spots before every job. Kind of like having a pretrip before I fly and even a post trip after a job? It's works for airplanes. ;)
Deiter, you are ready to build it! A check list is something almost everyone misses. Yes. You gave me the idea to put one together. THANK YOU!
I will have to plan it out so whipping it out here ...I might mioss something
@@IDCWoodcraft I know I'm wayyyy new to this, but formatting it like a pilot checklist might be good so they can be little flip cards to be kept right on the table. Start of project , end of project and maybe checklist for changing bits during a project. Kind of what steps to take when not only physically changing it, but is there stuff in g sender that needs to be done too... Of course I'm new and don't know it all yet.
I am still in the getting to know my CNC machine phase. I purchased a Longmill MK2 48 x 30 CNC - do you happen to have updated g code for this version? Thanks!!
Deb, I dont have the updated gcode for the larger Longmill yet my friend. You should be able to use the 30x30 longmill gcode with your 48x30 no problem. It just wont move all the way to the limits of your machine.
Awesome 👍
Thanks Shezz!!
Get video perfect for breaking in my TopsCNC Heavy - nice DIY machine should take a look.
I will cheSend me a picture
I am setting things up for some serious CNC.
I have two acres with trees that will need removal. So, I am thinking sawmill; but, will probably do the band saw thing for my wood.
I have other sources for wood; but, why throw away a tree?
This is what I am looking at for a complete setup.
Table saw
Band saw
Sander
Router table
Altmill and table
Vacuum system
Any suggestions?
Hi Jombo. No...don't throw away a good tree. Yhere's projects in them woods. I suggest a planer. I had this one for a long time. Well built → amzn.to/3KjUnIj
I have watched many of your videos and learned much from you. First off I want to start by saying thank you for what you do. I am looking at getting a cnc I would like to get the longmill 3030 but my issue is I am on disability and therefore on a limited income. The reason I want to get one is to try and supplement the income I do have. My question for you is do you know if they have a payment plan like some of the others do?.
Hi Bam. I am not aware of whether they have payment plans or not. Give them a call. I'll look into it myself.
What kind of projects do you want to create wth the CNC router when you get it?
@@IDCWoodcraft I will contact you via e-mail because I have a few more questions for you.
In your gcode, how/when do you decide to use a period?? Sometimes you use it, sometimes not.
Dave, we include that "." any time we are moving away from our zero position. So "x29." really is shorthand for 29.0
In your 3rd movement - x0z-3.5 why isn’t there a (.) between the 0 and z?
Hey stuart. The zero does not need a decimal point since it is null. The controller knows this. That's why it is not necessary
Running it right now .... a little bit of 'singing' going on, but I think it's going to be OK. Thanks! ~Kevin, The Jeep Guy!
Hey brother Jeeper. That singing is normal...and kinda cool, I think.
YAY! We get to start from the beginning. I tried beginning from the middle and sometimes from the end but I always ran into a glitch which caused me to use words that my mother washed my mouth out with soap when she heard them. Is there a 'gcode' for the proper words to use when the'bit' spins out of control and castrates your pet roaster riding the carriage? All the hens walked outside in protest and'egged' me.
I guess the hens wanted to be with the cows. Sorry brother, no codes for crash.
I was thinking of how grateful you would be by the length of this video. In fact, I thought abouot mentioning you and enjoying that cup 'o joe
you moved to x29. then you moved back to x0. Is the controller counting steps back to 0, or looking for home switch?
Stay off the homing switches
It's counting steps. Every move from the original 0,0,0 is calculated by the controller based on the revolutions of the screws. By counting the revs & calculating the distance moved by rev the machine always knows where it is once you've homed it (& the power stays on). The controller translates the G-Code positions into number of revs (or steps) the motor needs to turn to get the center of the spindle to that position. Then it turns that number and the spindle rides along the screw to the place you wanted it to go.
@@jimhatch5873 That is what I though. I don't have home switches installed yet. That is next.
They should include this video with all new machines.
I wish they would.
Can you use this same file to break in the longmill MK2?
Hi Gary. Yes you can
@@IDCWoodcraft thanks
Good info im gonna try it with my mill right I been talking to them today and they have no clue what's going on if this doesn't work im gonna send this junk back and buy a different one ..... Thanks Garrett I appreciate ur video a lot cause im a dumb a@$ to the cnc 😂.....
Join the CNC troubleshooters Facebook group. Then message Jeff Holmes in the group
Brother I don't do Facebook to much drama... Im gonna try ur gcode first and then call millright and just do something else thanks
How bad is it to hard stop the machine? I did it a couple of times setting it up by accident.
leestringer, Hard-stopping the machine can cause damage to the tooling, spoil the workpiece, and even harm the machine itself. It's essential to always let the machine come to a complete stop on its own to prevent any issues. Be careful with future setups to avoid this issue brother!
@@IDCWoodcraft Oh boy, that's depressing. I hope I haven't ruined my machine before I cut my first board.
I'm surprised limit switches aren't mandatory if it's so easy to do this. I'm not experienced so I really didn't know the difference.
IVE BEEN TRYING FOR TWO HOURS TRYING TO CREATE THIS FILE. WHEN I RUN IT IT STOPS
Hi Tom. This is not enoough info to tell you what's wrong. I will say look for errors from your control software
Great reminder, just like a car ect. Thanks
sfg18b, exactly!
couldn't download file, says file cannot be found.entered manually and router went left instead of right and jammed. ????
Kevin, my apologies brother. I transferred everything to a new website. I will work on getting that link fixed on my end. The Gcode is in the description. Did you try and copy paste that? You might have an issue with a typo when you entered it manually.
@@IDCWoodcraft I followed your video to the letter, I can't understand why it went to the left.i will watch for your link.i would also like a link to surface my long mill mk11.
@@kevinduke6491 it might be just a setting in the control software
I got me a nomad 3
What kinda of stuff do you do with it? Bike parts?
@@JackInTheShop for now ima put it in my van, and on my running races I want to see if people want their medals engraved with their times and date
Carlos...EXCELLENT!
Size doesn't matter, it's what you can do with the tool that counts
@@carloscastanyeda Very nice.
c4a
Ok Dusty...what is c4a?
@@IDCWoodcraft comment for algorithm.
@@TheDustyShed ah.... Perfect! Thank you