Stay online with the Nintendo 3DS and WiiU after today!

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  • Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
  • On April 8 2024 (ie today - as of the making of this episode) , all Nintendo Network online services for the Nintendo Wii U and Nintendo 3DS will be shut down, but it does not mean you don't need to stop playing online games. This is all thanks to Pretendo - the community developed Nintendo Network online replacement which is free and open source for everyone to enjoy. All you need is a hacked 3ds or WiiU and about 30 minutes of your time to get set up. In today's episode we take a closer look at the Pretendo service and its features. Please Enjoy!
    ► Hack your 3ds - 3ds.hacks.guide
    ► Hack your WiiU - wiiu.hacks.guide
    ► Pretendo - pretendo.network
    ► • Transfer your Nintendo...
    TimeStamps:
    00:00 - 01:08 - Nintendo Network is going offline
    01:09 - 03:44 - Introduction to Pretendo
    03:45 - 05:18 - How to use Pretendo
    05:19 - 11:15 - Testing online with Pretendo
    11:16 - 12:26 - Outro
    Social Media Links :
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    ► Threads : threads.net/ModernVintageGamer
    ► Facebook : / modernvintagegamer
    ► IG : / modernvintagegamer
    ► BandCamp : modernvintagegamer.bandcamp.com/
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Комментарии • 1,7 тыс.

  • @Ardetha
    @Ardetha 2 месяца назад +3355

    3DS gang rise up

  • @MusicFromAnotherTime
    @MusicFromAnotherTime 2 месяца назад +2495

    I'll still never forget that group of people playing Halo 2 on OG Xbox Live past the cutoff date as long as possible to keep it online.

    • @snerttt
      @snerttt 2 месяца назад +62

      I LOVE INSIGNIAAA

    • @HedgClan
      @HedgClan 2 месяца назад +88

      Then we have insignia, which like how pretendo keeps 3ds and Wii U online, insignia is a project that revives OG Xbox live

    • @CathrineMacNiel
      @CathrineMacNiel 2 месяца назад +14

      @maddox121 it could though as the Nintendo Network probably only handles matchmaking.

    • @googleuser4720
      @googleuser4720 2 месяца назад +7

      @@CathrineMacNiel Where did you get that idea?

    • @CathrineMacNiel
      @CathrineMacNiel 2 месяца назад

      @@googleuser4720 I get that idea from the impression that mostly everything is handled via P2P. And when I look at the code of the mk7 secure server and see how uhm simple it is, it kinda reinforces my impression.

  • @mjdxp5688
    @mjdxp5688 2 месяца назад +2121

    This is less of a "goodbye", and more of a "see you later". Thanks to Pretendo, online play will continue, even if it takes a while.

    • @juser-abuser
      @juser-abuser 2 месяца назад +47

      Gaytendo

    • @TomK-ex9yt
      @TomK-ex9yt 2 месяца назад

      How stupid do you need to be to still play 3ds games lmao

    • @Mephianse81
      @Mephianse81 2 месяца назад +18

      I mean ya if you get a gathering online ..but who's playing these games online still is more curious

    • @bobjames1933
      @bobjames1933 2 месяца назад +6

      Smell you later.

    • @xxxent
      @xxxent 2 месяца назад

      to be fair there was a good amount of people playing Pokemon online on 3ds ​@@Mephianse81

  • @ahmetdag5600
    @ahmetdag5600 2 месяца назад +1092

    Hacking your console is a must to do from now.

    • @schmuwu
      @schmuwu 2 месяца назад +89

      Been like that for a while imo

    • @keijijohnson9754
      @keijijohnson9754 2 месяца назад +39

      ​@@schmuwuAnd yet people like me have yet to do so still.

    • @rayminishi689
      @rayminishi689 2 месяца назад +30

      Its the only way to get ypur moneys worth with the decent sized library

    • @TheMetalGaia
      @TheMetalGaia 2 месяца назад +47

      Especially since some 3DS games are selling for over 100 bucks

    • @HydroSnorter3000
      @HydroSnorter3000 2 месяца назад +25

      you wouldn’t download a house

  • @The_Cloudy_TeaClub
    @The_Cloudy_TeaClub 2 месяца назад +145

    We can't let the 3DS die again. This is too precious. Currently playing online, as long as I can

  • @jofraniac
    @jofraniac 2 месяца назад +449

    God bless the open source community for these projects, these guys are heroes and deserve all the praise.

    • @Matanumi
      @Matanumi 2 месяца назад +18

      It's just a shame that not every game or feature carries over

    • @sechabatheletsane9784
      @sechabatheletsane9784 Месяц назад +2

      It's the only way to fight an all digital future.

  • @leviwarren6222
    @leviwarren6222 2 месяца назад +798

    These the last free console servers that the world will ever see. Sure, they were subject to some Nintendo online jank from time to time but unlike any other console servers before, during, or after, the 3DS and Wii U really had a community feel about them.

    • @ingueferroque
      @ingueferroque 2 месяца назад +62

      PS3, PS Vita are still online. I think 360 is as well.

    • @lux1654
      @lux1654 2 месяца назад +90

      @@ingueferroque 360 online isn't free

    • @leviwarren6222
      @leviwarren6222 2 месяца назад +30

      @@ingueferroque I was under the impression that the only PS3 and Vita servers still running were third-party servers for specific games. Am I mistaken?

    • @IceBlueLugia
      @IceBlueLugia 2 месяца назад +38

      ​@leviwarren6222 Many games have had their servers shut down. But the servers, in general, are very much still working

    • @keijijohnson9754
      @keijijohnson9754 2 месяца назад +14

      ​@@ingueferroque360 still requires a subscription dude. 😑

  • @bb_lou
    @bb_lou 2 месяца назад +277

    Thats hilarious the eclipse where I live is bringing the eShop closure at the exact time where totality hits my city (4pm)

    • @StraightOuttaJarhois
      @StraightOuttaJarhois 2 месяца назад +55

      The closure of the online service is the sacrifice to summon God Hand.

    • @asie
      @asie 2 месяца назад +15

      ​@maddox121 intentional as in the servers go down at 00:00am UTC, lol

    • @LIXOUALeBg
      @LIXOUALeBg 2 месяца назад

      where do you live

    • @Matanumi
      @Matanumi 2 месяца назад

      The end of the world starts with the west

    • @csolisr
      @csolisr 2 месяца назад +20

      Big "Dawn of the Final Day" vibes, if you ask me

  • @darkerm76
    @darkerm76 2 месяца назад +178

    This is why I Hate all Digital Future of Game as service 😢
    "If buying isn't owning than Pirating isn't stealing" seems so true.

    • @josephpurdy8390
      @josephpurdy8390 2 месяца назад +4

      No copyrights, then it never dies.

    • @lemonov3031
      @lemonov3031 2 месяца назад +10

      Abolish copyright laws

    • @nickwalters6649
      @nickwalters6649 Месяц назад +6

      Maybe emulating isn’t stealing, I would agree with that. I think where it becomes theft is if you sell a loaded console or handheld for a premium price.

    • @Adeyum64
      @Adeyum64 Месяц назад +3

      They need to Change the laws. As soon as there is no official way to buy a product (digital store closed and physical production stopped) or service like NSO, then it is completely legal to get those games. That, ofc, would mean, as soon as they re-release a game, you would have a timeframe for like a week to remove the game from any device.

    • @peridotasadeadbritishmonar7924
      @peridotasadeadbritishmonar7924 Месяц назад +3

      @@Adeyum64I believe since Nintendo has completely abandoned the 3ds and the wiiu, it’s legal in the US to download and play the games some other way. I remember hearing that discussion when EA took the Sims 2? off of the EA store and people saying it was legal to download the game elsewhere because in the US it was considered “abandoned software”. Japan’s copyright laws are complete dogshit though so I have a strong feeling that argument can’t legally be applied to Nintendo

  • @foxyhooligans
    @foxyhooligans 2 месяца назад +660

    Speaking of 3DS, you should cover the new virtual boy emulator for 3ds that came out a few weeks ago! Almost all games are playable in full 3d. Very awesome stuff (and a missed opportunity for nintendo with this console I think)

    • @someoneelse1534
      @someoneelse1534 2 месяца назад +37

      I think all of them are playable in the latest update. They fixed the crashing issue with T & E Soft games.

    • @pierce7993
      @pierce7993 2 месяца назад +8

      They already covered this in a different video on their channel.

    • @winlover37
      @winlover37 2 месяца назад +7

      You know I never thought of putting those 2 together, why didn't Nintendo consider that? What better opportunity?

    • @pierce7993
      @pierce7993 2 месяца назад

      @@winlover37 Because Nintendo is dumb.

    • @IceBlueLugia
      @IceBlueLugia 2 месяца назад +5

      Wow, that's awesome. I tried r3dragon back in the day, and it was pretty broken. I'm excited to give Red Viper a try. Small thing, but it'd be neat to have home menu forwarders for those individual games

  • @Troy_The_Boi
    @Troy_The_Boi 2 месяца назад +98

    I finally managed to home brew my 3ds like 2 weeks ago and ever since its like i’ve reconnected with my inner child. I cant stop using it now and im glad that the modding will allow me to enjoy it for many more years

    • @Literally_Claudia
      @Literally_Claudia 2 месяца назад +3

      this is so true, nice pfp btw!

    • @jaquenhgar4251
      @jaquenhgar4251 2 месяца назад +2

      I have done that last year too and i was playing all the games i couldnt afford as a teenager

  • @DarkBraveStuff
    @DarkBraveStuff 2 месяца назад +387

    RIP 3Ds & Wii U era, you will be missed

    • @CathrineMacNiel
      @CathrineMacNiel 2 месяца назад +49

      it certainly was the most fun era.

    • @Jdogg4089
      @Jdogg4089 2 месяца назад +79

      Nintendo has never felt the same after the Wii u and Satoru Iwata era. It just seems so sterile now. They still put out a few games I enjoy every now and then, but it definitely feels like something is missing.

    • @Twiddle_things
      @Twiddle_things 2 месяца назад +28

      An ending is just a new beginning. RIP 3DS & Wii U era, welcome 3DS & Wii U homebrew era: owned by the fans.

    • @bestgamting
      @bestgamting 2 месяца назад +29

      @@Jdogg4089I think I know what is missing for you: Maybe the effort Nintendo put in their operating system (I mostly felt that w the Wii U). For example, music for every part of the system and DIFFERENT music for Wiiu gamepad and TV. Also a thing missing is , that they aren’t trying many new things out nowadays(not hardware wise but more on the software side)- like the miiverse or street pass -Not available on the switch . The social aspect in general - you could even video call sb with a Wii U system or write sth to another user with a 3ds . That were just a few things I liked about the Wii U and 3DS and it’s sad to see that these systems are now abandoned by Nintendo …

    • @Guishe96
      @Guishe96 2 месяца назад +10

      Iwata era

  • @Magenta_Nimbat
    @Magenta_Nimbat 2 месяца назад +287

    Hoping Pretendo are working on getting the Pokemon games online again and even enabling Mystery Gift again in the future

    • @fanta_ferret
      @fanta_ferret 2 месяца назад +1

      omg love your pfp btw :3

    • @UncalibratedAimbot
      @UncalibratedAimbot 2 месяца назад +24

      Functioning online would be cool.
      You don’t need it for events tho because PKSM has the vast majority of them.

    • @FlyGuyGreeny
      @FlyGuyGreeny 2 месяца назад +5

      Damn, then I could finally check out the online building left in Jubilife City or so 🥴
      After seeing BD/SP, being able to obtain all events in Emeral, Platinum and HG/SS would be the actual Peak Pokémon experience for me.

    • @andyghkfilm2287
      @andyghkfilm2287 2 месяца назад +6

      Pretendo would be wise to not touch Pokemon. Pokemon is a huge moneymaker for Nintendo and they’re really touchy right now because of Palworld’s phenomenal success

    • @Pokerror404
      @Pokerror404 2 месяца назад +2

      Yeah and surprise trades

  • @WrestlingWithGaming
    @WrestlingWithGaming 2 месяца назад +9

    To paraphrase your pinned tweet, the modding community fixed it. This is great to see. Love these kinds of projects.

  • @irtehmrepic
    @irtehmrepic 2 месяца назад +20

    As a note: while Pretendo does have progress being made for various game servers, they've stated that currently they're working on using all the network dumps they've gotten to analyze and archive the server structures.

  • @notenoughmonkeys
    @notenoughmonkeys 2 месяца назад +107

    For the true Nintendo experience, can Pretendo also send me a fake cease and desist letter when I try and play emulated games online?

    • @DPlumes
      @DPlumes 2 месяца назад +37

      unfortunately pretendo is not a greedy sack of garbage, so no :(

  • @EnigmaHood
    @EnigmaHood 2 месяца назад +120

    Fun fact: Pretendo comes from the Nicktoon Doug, in an episode where he wins a free Pretendo and becomes addicted to playing a single game.

    • @darinherrick9224
      @darinherrick9224 2 месяца назад +15

      And that game was Wing Commander!

    • @tluniverse
      @tluniverse 2 месяца назад +4

      I remember it from the old Muppet Babies.

  • @seesikopter
    @seesikopter 2 месяца назад +179

    I just homebrewed my Wii U yesterday just because I wanted to play NDS Games and today this news? That’s awesome, I’ll install it when I come home :)

    • @Jdogg4089
      @Jdogg4089 2 месяца назад +6

      Yeah, I homebrewed about 8 years ago and have been enjoying ever since.

    • @VirtualKnight64
      @VirtualKnight64 2 месяца назад +7

      Let me know the result. I'm planning to get Pretendo on my Wii U and 3DS, but I'm nervous about it.

    • @jordytruck860
      @jordytruck860 2 месяца назад +4

      Literally same wtf

    • @seesikopter
      @seesikopter 2 месяца назад +1

      @@jordytruck860 lol that’s a double coincidence

    • @seesikopter
      @seesikopter 2 месяца назад +2

      @@VirtualKnight64 why?

  • @MassiveRican
    @MassiveRican 2 месяца назад +10

    This is freaking amazing. I haven’t used my Wii U in years but this community effort alone is going to get me to plug it back in and check this out.

  • @MofoMan2000
    @MofoMan2000 2 месяца назад +76

    One thing you didn't mention: Pokémon Bank, Poké Transporter, system software updates, game updates and redownloads of owned software WILL STILL WORK.

  • @joonglegamer9898
    @joonglegamer9898 2 месяца назад +30

    It almost feels like being set free. No longer in the clutches of the people that left us behind, but how long before those people start sending out cease and desist?

    • @NikkrisMusic
      @NikkrisMusic Месяц назад

      So true! I’m already back on Mario Kart 7. Lots of people on tonight!

  • @axelwoni.m.8940
    @axelwoni.m.8940 2 месяца назад +94

    As much as Nintendo wants the 3DS & Wii U to die, the fans have kept and will continue keeping them alive. I love what this community has done to preserve some of my favorite games on my favorite consoles!
    Nintendo fans give what Nintendo takes away

    • @ninjafrog6966
      @ninjafrog6966 2 месяца назад +9

      modders again doing what nintendon’t

    • @user-du6re3rm9z
      @user-du6re3rm9z Месяц назад

      They betray the oldest loyalest fan base just to cater for the new fans who joined over the damn Covid 19 quarantine , with updates and new games. But we can’t just get the servers up. Even without the game store working😔 I’m sure they lost a lot of people with this

    • @OhKayEl
      @OhKayEl Месяц назад +1

      Fans were the ones who wanted the 3DS to die as soon as the Switch came out...

  • @CaptainBuggyTheClown
    @CaptainBuggyTheClown 2 месяца назад +48

    I'll never forget the pain of having Socom US Navy Seals for the PS2 go down. It was my first online game that I experienced going offline.

    • @ThePolicenaut
      @ThePolicenaut 2 месяца назад +2

      You can still play it with third party servers

    • @stormydeath8121
      @stormydeath8121 2 месяца назад

      @@ThePolicenautI don’t think people are gonna be playing that

    • @ThePolicenaut
      @ThePolicenaut 2 месяца назад +8

      @stormydeath8121 There's a surprising amount of ps2 games that are online now but yes there's barely any players on any of them ,I haven't played it myself but I think socom is one of the more popular games with regular players

    • @CaptainBuggyTheClown
      @CaptainBuggyTheClown 2 месяца назад

      @@ThePolicenaut I know and I have but I don't care for the outdated jank, nor do I care for scam projects that go no where like Task force or HHour. The socom third person tactical shooter is too brutal for modern teens and people. They don't want to be punished for dying like a moron and watch the back of someone elses head for 3 minutes. They'd rather be thrown into a big ass map, with a few respawns, and if they die die well they just quit and start another match of warzone. I've already made my peace and moves on accepting that's the reality of things. Just like how pokemon games are dumbed down so children don't have to grind or spend time figuring things out like we did as kids.

    • @Sing_LoveWRS
      @Sing_LoveWRS 2 месяца назад

      ​@@CaptainBuggyTheClown It's almost like perma-death isn't fun to a majority of the people that play video games

  • @fiffy6572
    @fiffy6572 2 месяца назад +92

    bought a wii u in 2024 and thx to this projects i can enjoy it for years to come

    • @Flafex
      @Flafex 2 месяца назад +7

      Me too, you should play Yoshi's Woolly World.

    • @szalontaibarnabasivo
      @szalontaibarnabasivo 2 месяца назад +3

      You still would be able to enjoy it without online play, most of (if not all) the exclusives are bangers

    • @Larry1631
      @Larry1631 2 месяца назад

      ​@@szalontaibarnabasivothe eshop closed🙃

    • @szalontaibarnabasivo
      @szalontaibarnabasivo 2 месяца назад +14

      @@Larry1631 you need no eshop 😈

    • @Larry1631
      @Larry1631 2 месяца назад

      @@szalontaibarnabasivo thats why i modded my wii u💀☠️🇦🇴🇦🇴🇦🇴

  • @BradsSpace2
    @BradsSpace2 2 месяца назад +70

    This is great! I really think there should be some sort of legal requirement when sunsetting services like this that a makes it possible to run a local or community version, especially for paid products. Obviously there are security concerns and I'm not suggesting they should be legally required to release their code, but there must be some inbetween.

    • @dooplon5083
      @dooplon5083 2 месяца назад +18

      I think that you'd be a fan of Ross Scott. I've been a fan of him for years but he's now putting legal pressure to make sunsetting online sensibly a requirement, like allowing customers to make personal servers again as a standard feature

    • @pbe6965
      @pbe6965 2 месяца назад +5

      I was more or less going to comment the same thing, they should make their code open source if they don't intend to use it anyway nor continuing the service.
      If they don't want to pay for those servers anymore, let someone else do it ? Instead of just shutting it down completely.

    • @TonyJenn
      @TonyJenn 2 месяца назад

      ​@@pbe6965forcing a Japanese company to release their code isn't happening. Would have to go a different route.

    • @jh302
      @jh302 2 месяца назад

      @@pbe6965 things consumers do not seem to understand they often dont own all the software to run their servers so in most cases the actual software cannot be legally distributed by them to do so

    • @dooplon5083
      @dooplon5083 2 месяца назад +8

      @@jh302 then just....don't build your servers around undistributable software????? They're not legally required to use it, we have full decades where customers could make personal servers where ot clearly *wasn't* an issue lol. I think you need to understand that providing server creation abilities isnt as hard as you think lol, it was literally the *standard* a few years ago

  • @VuddyProductions
    @VuddyProductions 2 месяца назад +10

    this feels like the halo 2 situation. i didn't get to have my "one last game" before it ended so im glad i found this, i can keep going.

  • @MegaManNeo
    @MegaManNeo 2 месяца назад +29

    I used Pretendo first time on both my WiiU and Cemu during Nintendo's downtime past year and it was awesome.
    Can't wait to come back but tonight (hello from Europe), I'm going to enjoy Splatoon 1's final rotation on official servers.

    • @joshuaowens6900
      @joshuaowens6900 2 месяца назад +2

      Wait so how long are the servers gonna be up for today

    • @MegaManNeo
      @MegaManNeo 2 месяца назад

      @@joshuaowens6900 1am Central European Time

    • @udance4ever
      @udance4ever Месяц назад +1

      nice - I'm gonna have to figure out how to configure Cemu to do this soon!

    • @MegaManNeo
      @MegaManNeo Месяц назад

      @@udance4ever You need Dumpling for your WiiU which allows you to dump the files to play online in Cemu.
      In Cemu, you can just enable online play and especially when using your console's dump, everything's ready to go already.
      Save for registering an account on Pretendo's website of course.

  • @purpleplasma4824
    @purpleplasma4824 2 месяца назад +7

    Nintendo: You're not Nintendo! You're, you're Pretendo!
    Pretendo: Yes, yes I am.

  • @Roxor128
    @Roxor128 2 месяца назад +9

    "Pretendo" is an amazing name. Kudos to whichever member of the dev team came up with it!
    I'm never going to make use of this, but I still think it's cool. Pity it needed to be done in the first place. If we required all source code and data used for servers be released into the public domain upon shutdown, there would be no need for such efforts in order to preserve gaming for the future.

    • @jolibethrodriguez7471
      @jolibethrodriguez7471 2 месяца назад

      Somebody said it came from an "Doug" episode

    • @udance4ever
      @udance4ever Месяц назад

      agreed - just like NoPaystation! 🏴‍☠️

  • @winlover37
    @winlover37 2 месяца назад +46

    This is amazing, the homebrew community for Nintendo systems have been absolutely on fire since the Wii.
    I think this will set a precedent in widespread adoption of open source revivals like these, this is the first time the replacement to official servers is more or less ready to go before the official source even went down.

    • @NottJoeyOfficial
      @NottJoeyOfficial 2 месяца назад +5

      There's been a huge leap forward for the GameCube in terms of homebrew recently too, which is amazing to see!

    • @stormswindy3013
      @stormswindy3013 2 месяца назад +3

      wiimmfi existed before nintendo WFC shut down

    • @winlover37
      @winlover37 2 месяца назад

      @@stormswindy3013 Wiimfi still needed a lot of time after GameSpy went down in 2014.

    • @winlover37
      @winlover37 Месяц назад

      @@stormswindy3013 Wiimfi still needed a lot of work done well after the Wii services shut down though, but technically yes.

  • @AndrewO83
    @AndrewO83 2 месяца назад +6

    Such an awesome video at a pivotal time not only for the community but me personally. Lately I have been looking at getting retro consoles and games from yesteryear to arm myself for the digital future. I want to hunt through my local Facebook marketplace for people's 3DS' , Wii U's and Wii's and games. I'm not new to the idea of emulation but I am new to doing the emulation myself (hacking a console ready for emu). Thanks for including the links for the guides MVG. I'll refer back to this vid once I get the consoles. I'm so glad these games and services are being preserved.

  • @tjtomenes
    @tjtomenes 2 месяца назад +4

    Thank you for this video! I'm so happy to hear that once again our online community has done something so amazing. I'm very thankful to everyone who made Pretendo possible and to you for sharing this guide for everyone!

  •  2 месяца назад +4

    Amazing, I'm constantly in awe with community initiatives to preserve these old online experiences such as this one. It's heartwarming really.

  • @ryko1478
    @ryko1478 2 месяца назад +4

    It must be stressful for the pretendo developers to have this much pressure now that they're the only option and not an alternative

  • @yosteggas
    @yosteggas 2 месяца назад +55

    Holy carp that's me at 6:15!
    I hope any percentage of people who watch this video set up Pretendo. Splatoon is an absolute joy on the Steam Deck but sometimes there aren't enough people on to fill up a lobby.

  • @pikmin_79
    @pikmin_79 2 месяца назад +9

    3DS modders might not get as much attention as Wii and Wii U ones, but they are still going pretty strong

  • @onigvd77
    @onigvd77 2 месяца назад +4

    Man how awesome is this! Way to go to the Pretendo team, you guys rock!

  • @dewottmaster7720
    @dewottmaster7720 2 месяца назад +14

    I don't know if they will, because I dunno how it all works, but hopefully Pretendo will be able to clean up the GTS on Pokemon X/Y, ORAS, Sun/Moon, Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon, because it's just a mess.

    • @OHKOKyle
      @OHKOKyle 2 месяца назад +5

      I just hope I can wonder trade agin after the Shutdown!

    • @asie
      @asie 2 месяца назад +5

      I asked a question on the discord a few months ago now and one moderator did they yes, there will be support for Pokemon and it'll even have an "anti-cheat", stopping hacked pokemons and stopping crashes etc

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 2 месяца назад +1

      If the DS Pokemon games are anything to go by, then some more obviously hacked mons will probably slip through the cracks of the anti-cheat, but it will be nowhere near as bad as official GTS. It is actually kinda funny how fans are better at running these games sometimes than the actual official people behind it.

  • @faenethlorhalien
    @faenethlorhalien 2 месяца назад +29

    That's good news for all owners. This should be mandated by law to companies to provide for an exit path for their dying consoles: make the system available to users so that they can build and develop a successor or several.

    • @MusicComet
      @MusicComet 2 месяца назад +6

      Obviously companies wouldn't want a "successor" to consoles 'cause that's competition from using their stuff. At best they should just let people make their own servers, and maybe even help them set it up, for purely preservational purposes. Otherwise someone's gonna find a way to make a buck out of it and not in a good way.

    • @memes_gbc674
      @memes_gbc674 2 месяца назад

      @@MusicComet if they aren't even making money off of the platform (or even games since they shut down the eshop years ago) why does competition matter at all

    • @SodaPopBot
      @SodaPopBot 2 месяца назад +1

      @@memes_gbc674 Maybe they consider themselves competition in a sense lol
      Like, "buy the new thing instead!!"

    • @MusicComet
      @MusicComet 2 месяца назад +1

      @@memes_gbc674 I mean competition as in "I took your work and used it as mine for profit". Because to me allowing access to a console sounds like allowing access to how the console works (so like giving a McDonald burger recipe), which unless is like 60 years old I'd say it's still valid for Nintendo to defend that imo. All for preservation but obviously Nintendo doesn't want to spill the secrets, or any other company for that matter.

  • @LarsVollaers
    @LarsVollaers 2 месяца назад +24

    imagine this: You'll now able to create your own 3DS / Wii U games WITH online possibilities. Wow.

    • @Matanumi
      @Matanumi 2 месяца назад +1

      LOL how?

    • @ihavenoideas5844
      @ihavenoideas5844 2 месяца назад +4

      ​@@D2.159Just use a normal system or emulator.
      Those devkits cost thousands of dollars

    • @DanTDMJace
      @DanTDMJace Месяц назад

      @@MatanumiYou can build from Linux for Wii U, I know because I have.

  • @SkyDragoon
    @SkyDragoon 2 месяца назад +5

    This is awesome! Thank you for bringing this up!

  • @HorrorGraphicHensley
    @HorrorGraphicHensley 2 месяца назад +7

    See this is what makes emu/roms/game preservation so so important. I love the idea of the games, and live service still working instead of being defunct never to be experienced again. There are games from my past that I never want to forget. For instance, sitting in the floor playing on a small crt and booting up Ratchet and Clank, Yu-Gi-Oh Duelist of the Roses, or Capsule Coliseum, Pokemon Stadium 1 & 2, and so many many more exciting, wonderful games. If I lost access indefinitely to those games/memories and eventually the discs rot or console hardware fail, I'd be so heartbroken. I've already lost my childhood elementary school, and other things from my childhood. I'd rather not lose access to my lifelong favorite hobby.

  • @boredyoutubeuser
    @boredyoutubeuser 2 месяца назад +5

    April 8th 2024 will be a day to remember for sure.

  • @mcparadise97
    @mcparadise97 2 месяца назад +4

    I just modded my new 3ds xl a few days ago, after owning it for 9 years lol. I’ll definitely be downloading Pretendo onto it now too, because I love playing with other people. I was sad the online support was shut down, but I’m glad Pretendo exists to bring the 3ds online community back to life ❤

  • @Shin3y
    @Shin3y 2 месяца назад +4

    I’ve been following pretendo for a while. This project is amazing!

  • @UltraGamerAustin
    @UltraGamerAustin 2 месяца назад +86

    You finally recognize pretendo network. Thank you

    • @ModernVintageGamer
      @ModernVintageGamer  2 месяца назад +36

      always did, just thought now was a good time to cover it :)

  • @UntLion
    @UntLion 2 месяца назад +9

    Ooh, this is very good of the Pretendo developers. I wish them all the best in reviving the Wii U/3DS online scene!

  • @MorgothGamingTrove
    @MorgothGamingTrove 2 месяца назад +6

    They say emulation is evil and should be criminal. They say that it does NOTHING good. Then we have things like this. I am so glad to have been introduced to emulation and the romhacking scene when I was a pre teen.

    • @Omar_E11
      @Omar_E11 Месяц назад

      Literally nobody says that. "They" exists in your head.

    • @MorgothGamingTrove
      @MorgothGamingTrove Месяц назад +2

      @@Omar_E11 Except that a ton of people say that. Just because you choose to be blind to it doesn't make it any less real.
      The amount of people that simp for corpos is staggering.

  • @defeatof13
    @defeatof13 2 месяца назад +18

    Nice vid, thanks for sharing your PNID code

  • @IndellableHatesHandles
    @IndellableHatesHandles 2 месяца назад +22

    I hope Citra's replacements like Lime3DS will implement support for Pretendo or some other online service soon. I was just thinking this past week about how cool it would be to be able to screen record Mario Kart 7 online play

    • @yourself1210
      @yourself1210 2 месяца назад +7

      @maddox121you can have a patreon just don’t tie beta builds to it

    • @M_CFV
      @M_CFV 2 месяца назад

      You can restore the server browser for Citra rooms

    • @IndellableHatesHandles
      @IndellableHatesHandles 2 месяца назад

      @@M_CFV I'll have to look into that

    • @Matanumi
      @Matanumi 2 месяца назад +3

      @@yourself1210 this is correct
      Actually there's no law stating you can't make money on emulators as long as its not copywritten code its fair game

    • @nadiaplaysgames2550
      @nadiaplaysgames2550 2 месяца назад +1

      @maddox121 i dont thinkit was Patreon
      it was the fact Citra accepted game roms from unreleased games and actively talked about it it why they setttled they would been murdered in discovery
      it why clean room programing is a commen in reverse enggering project the Citra devs forgo

  • @jolness1
    @jolness1 2 месяца назад +2

    Always happy to see a new MVG video

  • @flink1231
    @flink1231 2 месяца назад +2

    Thanks for the video! Great timing :)

  • @RDG-01
    @RDG-01 2 месяца назад +7

    As a cemu main, pretendo on cemu works just as well as on a console would. All games that I've tested work flawlessly and people on my friends list can even see the games that I am playing on the friends list.

    • @kirby21-xz4rx
      @kirby21-xz4rx 2 месяца назад

      I thought emulators don't support online

  • @scherge
    @scherge 2 месяца назад +3

    Great stuff, thank you for the video. I will definitely try this out on my freshly hacked white 32 GB Wii U.

  • @berin13
    @berin13 2 месяца назад +2

    Thanks! I'll be looking forward to it!

  • @NitrionA.
    @NitrionA. 2 месяца назад +5

    Only downside to this is that it's still quite new, so it will take a bit before it becomes really mainstream.

  • @ZeroHourProductions407
    @ZeroHourProductions407 2 месяца назад +43

    I'm surprised nintendo has largely ignored this. With as egregiously aggressive as their legal team is about DMCA'ing things, you would think their brain damage would have seen this as some kind of capital offense as well.

    • @Butterscotch_96
      @Butterscotch_96 2 месяца назад +17

      Nintendo literally can’t do shit.

    • @KururuJi
      @KururuJi 2 месяца назад +18

      Apparently, Pretendo even has contacts with Nintendo. (They used these to raise issues with Mario Maker in the previous six months.)

    • @agromchung
      @agromchung 2 месяца назад +33

      Nintendo tends to turn a blind eye to people who aren't making money, like in the case of the Mother 3 translation patch or the ROM hacking community generally

    • @BastetFurry
      @BastetFurry 2 месяца назад +27

      @@agromchung yeah, they don't want to be seen as total asshats.
      Quite easy equation, Nintendo cares if it costs them money. And as the 3DS and the WiiU are out of support they only cost them money at the moment, so if the community steps up and makes them safe money...

    • @CathrineMacNiel
      @CathrineMacNiel 2 месяца назад +1

      @@KururuJi really? do you have sources?

  • @HippeusOmega
    @HippeusOmega 2 месяца назад +20

    Thank goodness for the community. My 3DS already has CFW on it so i'll look into this.

  • @skonaz
    @skonaz 2 месяца назад

    802,000 subscribers!....Well deserved man. I remember making a comment years ago that you should have way more than 20k. Good for you mate, we used all your emu's back in the day. You're one of the guys that made OG Xbox soooo much more than it was.

  • @RyanRakowski
    @RyanRakowski 2 месяца назад +9

    The gyro controls on Splatoon 1 are unmatched.

    • @LAST_STAND_FAN
      @LAST_STAND_FAN 2 месяца назад +1

      I played it again today for the first time in years, and I have to agree. The game just feels way nicer than Splatoon 2, I should never have moved. Although I never played Splatoon 2 much, 1 was my main game for a while.

  • @marsoulini
    @marsoulini 2 месяца назад +6

    I actually got my first 3DS last week and I was SO disappointed to hear that it would be closing! like, what a bummer! Thank god I hacked it though, I'll be sure to stick around Pretendo and what it has to offer. I really wanna keep playing with people!

    • @kirby21-xz4rx
      @kirby21-xz4rx 2 месяца назад +1

      it's been out for years and your just now getting one? that's kinda late no judgement thou 😅

    • @DanTDMJace
      @DanTDMJace Месяц назад

      Pretendo + hShop i've heard works good.

  • @IgnatiusAlpha
    @IgnatiusAlpha 2 месяца назад +2

    I played a TON of Super Mario Maker and Splatoon this past week or so dreading this day, but I'm so happy Pretendo exists so I can jump back in from time to time.

  • @LukeAkAscooterkid
    @LukeAkAscooterkid 2 месяца назад +1

    I have been enjoying the odd match or so on both wii u and 3ds over the last month or so. Thank you pretendo!

  • @SonicBoone56
    @SonicBoone56 2 месяца назад +5

    No excuse now for people to not mod their 3DS and Wii U now.

  • @ManInTheMask1000
    @ManInTheMask1000 2 месяца назад +4

    Well, it's hard to believe today is the day. I'm grateful that we'll have these alternative solutions. Even if we need time to rebuild the other game features, I'm ready to see where this goes. I'm about to ask a question I assume got answered already. Is it not currently possible to use Pretendo with Gen 6 and Gen 7 Pokémon? I wouldn't be surprised if so. Otherwise, thank you for the fun memories, Nintendo Network. It's a damn shame you're leaving, but I'll fondly remember you from my high school and early college years. I'll have to use our remaining time well.

  • @cassiuscartland
    @cassiuscartland 2 месяца назад +3

    The main reason I have a modded Wii U but not 3DS is because you cant remove CFW off a 3DS without erasing it. Wii U its litreally just 5 clicks of a button to remove it, or just remove the sd card and it will not boot cfw.

  • @WickedGamerCollector
    @WickedGamerCollector 2 месяца назад +1

    What a relaxing new new intro tune 😄

    • @GeneralChaz9
      @GeneralChaz9 Месяц назад

      I thought the same thing, so I had to track it down. lol
      Cap Bénat · Zack & Alex

  • @NottJoeyOfficial
    @NottJoeyOfficial 2 месяца назад +3

    I've been around homebrew since before the Wii and DS online shutdown. The Wii community is stronger than ever right now, and the online features are really great these days! I'm very excited to see where Pretendo goes, because if the Wii is anything to go by it will be great.

  • @DrAnimePhD
    @DrAnimePhD 2 месяца назад +9

    WAIT MIIVERSE IS BACK?!
    Okay I gotta download this

  • @PotentialLegend
    @PotentialLegend 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm gonna try get a few games of Mario Kart on the official servers before it goes down. I'm just so glad that the community actually managed to create a way for people to continue being able to play these games online after this.

  • @rubberballoonlover5471
    @rubberballoonlover5471 2 месяца назад +1

    Thanks so much. You're a major life saver!

  • @UltravioletNomad
    @UltravioletNomad 2 месяца назад +6

    I hope that the Uprising community will preserve, that game is paradoxically made perfect for the 3DS but way before it's time.

  • @aisadal2521
    @aisadal2521 2 месяца назад +3

    I hope this works for the Pokemon games like Alpha Sapphire, because I loved going online in them, especially Alpha Sapphire. The GTS thing they had then was so much fun, and I really loved it back in high school. Just a shame I won't have my old friends once I get Pretendo, but them's the breaks, I guess 😢

  • @thewilliamspot0
    @thewilliamspot0 2 месяца назад +2

    I feel like this would have been a perfect video to also bring up the the SpotPass Archival Project, which can even been done without a modded console. Since the servers are going offline, the 'links' that allow the 3DS and Wii U to download the spotpass data also will go offline today (at least, from how it was described to me), which is why there's a huge push to grab the archived links and pull the data before it's too late to help allow the redistribution of spotpass over recreated networks like Pretendo.
    Edited 4/8/24 for minor spelling mistake. Oops.

  • @Turqoiseee
    @Turqoiseee 2 месяца назад +1

    Damn, I'm happy to see this, even with my 2ds not working anymore since early december of 2022 despite trying to fix it.

  • @retropuffer2986
    @retropuffer2986 2 месяца назад +3

    Congrats on breaking 800K subs. Wow!

  • @glitchy_weasel
    @glitchy_weasel 2 месяца назад +3

    This is great! No console will die as long as the a community is willing to out work on it.

  • @orbitstayoncereveluv1960
    @orbitstayoncereveluv1960 2 месяца назад

    omg tysm for the video, i'll definitely give it a try in the near future!!

  • @Nichslvl
    @Nichslvl 2 месяца назад +1

    Love that these consoles have such dedicated communities to go forth with their own online servers

  • @3dsstreetpassfan133
    @3dsstreetpassfan133 2 месяца назад +3

    I so cant wait, also if streetpass doesnt make it to the switch 2 then im hoping pretendo manage to somehow

  • @cuddleslapine
    @cuddleslapine 2 месяца назад +3

    yay Pretendo!
    mario kart 7 was awesome during the test beta

  • @midshipman8654
    @midshipman8654 Месяц назад

    This is something I really apreciate about pc gaming. a lot of games usually have public servers backed into the game, so even after the stop of develper support, you can usually still find some online games without going out of your way. and if you do go out of your way, there is often a lot of community fixes.

  • @AmyraCarter
    @AmyraCarter Месяц назад +1

    Nice. Very nice. I still am in the hunt for a 3DS and a Wii U (and a PSVita), mostly for homebrew/emulation.

  • @AnxMa
    @AnxMa Месяц назад +3

    Hi guys, need help! Bought my 3DS XL in late 2017, when Switch was already out but had no idea it's gonna be so huge so quickly. Had buyers remorse ever since - only SF IV and pretty cool REvils are keeping me from selling it. Can you recommend how to enjoy 3DS? What games are worth it? Or should I cut my losses and buy Switch or SteamDeck.

    • @SpoopyKatt
      @SpoopyKatt Месяц назад

      Please try some Pokémon games, also I highly recommend kid Icarus uprising for the 3ds, it rivals most games I've played in my life.

    • @AnxMa
      @AnxMa Месяц назад

      @@SpoopyKatt Thank you! But which Pokemon titles have (if any) an open world?

  • @GrmDark
    @GrmDark 2 месяца назад +3

    Eclipse day and the Rise of Pretendo! 😂

  • @SonKosen
    @SonKosen 2 месяца назад +1

    Cool to see that the Wii U and 3DS will never really die. I may have to check this out.

  • @MrPotatoShed
    @MrPotatoShed 2 месяца назад +2

    It's hard not to be excited about the 3DS and Wii U with the incredible work the preservation community is doing with it. Just got and hacked a 3DS, now I'll start thinking about a Wii U...

  • @teamcharmander1017
    @teamcharmander1017 2 месяца назад +3

    RIP 3ds and Wii U online so many good times

  • @gudenau
    @gudenau 2 месяца назад +10

    Multiplier on the original Splatoon is just better than 2+.

    • @halo3odst
      @halo3odst 2 месяца назад +2

      Fact.
      2+ undoubtedly has more features but there is a lack of reward for skilled players when you can just charge the special meter as fast as possible and spam the crap out of people.

    • @ottoplichters
      @ottoplichters 2 месяца назад +1

      I never play spatoon 2 .
      I don't know why it's not better. I really prefer 1 over 2 and only played 3 for 30 min .
      It much harder to join a server than the newer ons but still prefer 1
      I hope a lot of players will go on pretendo with there wiiu.
      🎉🎉

    • @connor9568
      @connor9568 2 месяца назад +2

      Too true, I forgot how good it was until this week

    • @thevenom2731
      @thevenom2731 2 месяца назад

      ​@@ottoplichters3 is literally better, tho.

    • @DanTDMJace
      @DanTDMJace Месяц назад

      @@ottoplichtersJust got Splatoon 1 with NUSspli, gonna try it tommorow as it's 9:00 PM and i'm tired.

  • @mineland8220
    @mineland8220 Месяц назад +1

    not drifting at all in the mario karts background footage made me flinch a little. These guys are doing wonders for preservation. My respects

  • @izzyhope58
    @izzyhope58 2 месяца назад +2

    One thing I’m wonder about for Mario Maker Wii U, is if the levels that were uploaded to the official Nintendo Network were archived, and reuploaded to Pretendo. I've tried searching but can't find an awnser. Would be very cool if all those levels were archived and playable on pretendo, along with new uploads bring made

  • @deadmetalbr
    @deadmetalbr 2 месяца назад +5

    Pretendo, Wiimmfi, Insignia, and every service like it are doing the Lord's work. As long as the scene can safely reverse-engineer online services, the games-as-a-service apocalypse can be forestalled. Every last one of their contributors deserves a Chips Ahoy.

  • @RefreshingMirage
    @RefreshingMirage 2 месяца назад +4

    Time to play We’re So Back from Splatoon 3 at full blast

  • @iroll
    @iroll 2 месяца назад +1

    Maybe I need to try again with Aroma, but my Wii U hacking experiment was miserable. I'm relatively tech savvy, but I struggled to use the environment(s), kept having to go back to forums to find fiddly things that had to be twiddled with, tried all the different ways to load images, etc. It seemed like every tool was in a rough alpha stage regardless of what the project pages claimed. I don't doubt for a moment the amount of crazy effort that has gone into that community, or that other people are daily driving hacked Wii U's, but I eventually had to give up.

  • @andre-le-bone-aparte
    @andre-le-bone-aparte 2 месяца назад +1

    @11:32 - The message from @MOTH on the community board - very clever!

  • @Mkgamer_2
    @Mkgamer_2 2 месяца назад +19

    REST IN PIECE NINTENDO NETWORK, 😢

  • @Sachifus
    @Sachifus 2 месяца назад +4

    It is so sad that you cannot use the same PNID as your legacy NNID… you have to choose another username or it won’t work. I don’t know why the team behind Pretendo did not put any warning either in the official documentation or on the registration page about this issue. I know this is a Nintendo limitation, but there should absolutely be a warning about this since a lot of people will indeed use the same PNID as their legacy NNID.

    • @DanTDMJace
      @DanTDMJace Месяц назад

      At least you can easily change it

  • @Raphtor13
    @Raphtor13 2 месяца назад +1

    Been using Pretendo for a week or so and seems pretty good.

  • @pyl91
    @pyl91 Месяц назад

    Would love to see you explore more community-made online gaming services in a future video. Schtserv for PSO on the Sega Dreamcast and Xlink Kai for Xbox come to mind.

  • @MrGHLover107
    @MrGHLover107 2 месяца назад +5

    nintendon't and pretendo are great puns service names. a great exploit for the next nintendo game console exploit could be called nintendoom